London’s Violence and Looting Intensifies, Spreads to a Second Major City
- Posted on August 8, 2011 at 7:59pm by
Billy Hallowell
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LONDON (The Blaze/AP) — Violence and looting spread to new areas of London on Monday – and to a second major city – as shops and cars were set ablaze and authorities struggled to contain the spiraling disorder on a third night of rioting in Britain’s capital, which will host next summer’s Olympic Games. Below, see a Russia Today report that explains the spreading violence:
Over the weekend, The Blaze first reported on the unrest in London. On Sunday, we provided a video that showcased the aftermath of the looting. The worst unrest in London in decades saw buildings, vehicles and garbage dumps set alight, stores burglarized and police officers pelted with bottles and fireworks, as groups of young people rampaged through neighborhoods across the capital.
Fire crews battled to control a raging blaze that swept through a 100-year-old family run furniture store in Croydon, in south London, and forced nearby homes to be evacuated.
In the nation’s central city of Birmingham, dozens of people attacked shops in a main retail district – spreading the chaos beyond London for the first time since violence broke out on Saturday night. Here are aerial views of buildings engulfed in flames:
As authorities struggled to keep pace with the unrest, Prime Minister David Cameron cut short his summer vacation in Italy and will convene a meeting of the government’s crisis committee on Tuesday to toughen the response to the escalating violence.
It began late Saturday in London‘s northern Tottenham district when a peaceful protest over the police’s shooting of a suspect turned violent, leaving parts of the high street charred and its shops looted. But some have blamed the unrest on unemployment, insensitive policing and frustration across Britain over the government’s austerity budget, which will bring deep cuts to social services and welfare payments.
Below, see an image posted on Facebook by one of the looters. Police say that pictures like these encouraged others to engage in looting as well:
“There is significant disorder breaking out in a number of our communities across London,” Tim Godwin, the acting London police commissioner said Monday, acknowledging that the 1,400 officers police deployed across London were struggling to halt the unrest.
Some residents called for police to deploy water canons to disperse rioters, or call on the military for support.
Witnesses in several neighborhoods said police were slow to respond as violence broke out in communities in the east and south of London previously untouched by the chaos, leaving young thugs free to set fires and steal from high street stores.
The small groups of youths – most with their heads and faces covered – used SMS messages, instant messaging on BlackBerry cell phones and social media such as Twitter to coordinate their attacks and outwit the police. Al Jazeera has more about the damage perpetuated by youths:
Once the preserve of businesspeople, BlackBerry handsets are popular with teenagers, thanks to their free, fast instant messaging system. Blackberry’s manufacturer, Research in Motion, said in a statement that they were assisting authorities in their investigation and “feel for those impacted by the riots in London.”
Police were also monitoring Twitter, and warned that those who posted messages inciting the violence could face arrest.
In the Peckham district of south London, where a building was set ablaze along with a bus – which was not carrying passengers – onlookers said the scene resembled a conflict zone. Cars were torched in nearby Lewisham, and shops looted in south London’s Clapham district.
“There’s been tension for a long time. The kids aren’t happy. They hate the police,” said Matthew Yeoland, a 43-year-old teacher watching the unrest in Peckham. “It‘s like a war zone and the police weren’t doing anything. There were too many people and not enough police.”
In the Hackney area of east London, hundreds of youths attacked shops and set fire to cars. Hussain Sayem, a 25-year-old retail worker, said he had sympathy for London’s stretched police. “How can the police handle it?” he said.
Violence broke out late Saturday in London’s northern Tottenham district when peaceful protest over the fatal police shooting of Mark Duggan, a 29-year-old father of four, who was gunned down in disputed circumstances Thursday, turned violent.
Two police cars and a double-decker bus were set alight, stores were looted and several buildings along Tottenham’s main street – five miles (eight kilometers) from the site of the 2012 Olympics – were reduced to smoldering shells.
Duggan‘s death stirred old animosities despite efforts by London police to build better relations with the city’s ethnic communities after high profile cases of racism in recent decades.
Police say Duggan was shot dead when police from Operation Trident – the unit that investigates gun crime in the black community – stopped a cab he was riding in.
The Independent Police Complaints Commission, which is investigating the shooting, said a “non-police firearm” was recovered at the scene, and media reports said a bullet had been found in an officer’s radio.
However, the Guardian newspaper reported that the bullet in the radio was police-issue, indicating Duggan may not have fired at the officer.
Duggan’s partner, Semone Wilson, insisted Monday that her fiance was not connected to gang violence and urged police to offer more information about his death. But she said the riots appeared to be no longer linked to the initial protests. “It got out of hand. It’s not connected to this any more. This is out of control,” she said. Watch her words, below:
Many Tottenham residents claimed that the looting was the work of greedy youths – rather than fueled by anti-police sentiments.
“It’s nothing to do with the man who was shot, is it?” said 37-year-old Marcia Simmons, who has lived in the diverse and gritty north London neighborhood all her life. “A lot of youths … heard there was a protest and joined in. Others used it as an opportunity to kit themselves out, didn’t they, with shoes and T-shirts and everything.”
As the unrest spread to the districts in the south and west London on Sunday, and to other neighborhoods on Monday, some pointed to rising social tensions in Britain as the government slashes 80 billion pounds ($130 billion) from public spending by 2015 to reduce the huge deficit, swollen after the country spent billions bailing out its foundering banks.
The past year has seen mass protests against the tripling of student tuition fees and cuts to public sector pensions. In November, December and March, small groups broke away from large marches in London to loot. In the most notorious episode, rioters attacked a Rolls-Royce carrying Prince Charles and his wife Camilla to a charity concert.
However, the full impact of spending cuts has yet to be felt and the unemployment rate is stable – although it highest among youth, especially in areas like Tottenham, Hackney and Croydon.
Some locals insisted that joblessness was not to blame. “We are going to get people blaming the economy and what happened last week, but that’s not the real reason this happened,” said Brixton resident Marilyn Moseley, 49. “It’s just an excuse for the young ones to come and rob shops.”
Godwin urged communities to help clear the streets of people, and called on families to contact their children and ensure that they were not involved in the chaos.
Home Secretary Theresa May, the Cabinet minister responsible for policing, and London Mayor Boris Johnson also cut short summer vacations in an attempt to deal with the crisis.
May said 215 people had been arrested and 27 charged so far, including an 11-year-old boy accused of burglary. About 100 of those arrested were 21 or younger and 35 police officers had been injured in the violence, police said.
Police in the city of Birmingham, 120 miles (195 kilometers) north of London, confirmed that officers had arrested 35 people amid disorder across the city center, where shops were being vandalized.
In the south London neighborhood of Brixton – the scene of riots in the 1980s and 1990s – youths smashed windows, attacked a police car, set fire to garbage bins and stole video games, sportswear and other goods from stores on Sunday night.
Like Brixton, Tottenham is an impoverished area with an ethnically diverse population, a large black community and a history of unrest.
Tottenham was the site of the 1985 Broadwater Farm riots, a series of clashes that led to the fatal stabbing of a police officer and the wounding of nearly 60 others – and underscored tensions between London police and the capital’s black community.
Johnson condemned the “utterly appalling” destruction caused by the riots. “People have lost their homes, businesses and livelihoods through mindless violence,” he said in a statement.
For civic leaders and Olympic organizers, the violence was an unwelcome reminder of London’s volatility, less than a year before the city hosts the 2012 Games.
The International Olympic Committee said it had confidence in British authorities.
“Security at the Olympic Games is a top priority for the IOC,” spokesman Mark Adams said. “It is, however, directly handled by the local authorities, as they know best what is appropriate and proportionate. We are confident they will do a good job in this domain.”
Images of buildings and vehicles in flames broadcast around the world were poor publicity for the city as it prepares to host the games. Below, see a time-lapsed video of the entire debacle:
“You can imagine how stretched the police would be if this were to occur during the Olympics,” said Tony Travers, a local government expert at the London School of Economics. “So I think this will create a worry within City Hall and the Home Office.”
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Comments (127)
nptden
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:51pmWelcome to WATTS and BED-STY. They are pumping the natives up. Nothing like ‘free-stuff’. Time to start shooting looters. Frances Piven , and Van Jones can’t wait for it to happen here. There, here! And they are coming to town near you.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 9:04pmBritish Spring
Report Post »ConsiderThis
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 9:09pmTime for the Brits to call in the army and implement a curfew in these areas. And perhaps keep a 7pm curfew in place until winter. Then maybe next summer they’ll think twice before giving up a summer in exchange for all the free stuff their grabbing now.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 9:13pmAgree . The Left hates the police. Just like in the 60′s. They do all they can to intimidate, sue, and obstruct. In Britain the Labour Party has Cameron and Scotland Yard ( Metro police) in their gun sights. Our Far Left is the Anarchist Crowd but they love to distract by claiming that conservatives are “violent.” Well, no one does Radical like the Left. Just like the 60′s. Hopefully, independent/ rational Americans will see where our ” Trolling for Votes/Who Cares About Border Control/ Play the Blame and Discrimination Card” Party is taking America….
Report Post »Mimi24
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 11:00pmWell I was going to say that but you already did.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 11:01pmImplement a curfew? Yeah, that’s what we need. The Top should come Down.
Bottom Up, Top Down, and Inside Out, right?
No, as another commenter below says, you shouldn’t “cull the herd”, either. That’s Progressive talk right there.
Report Post »ZaphodsPlanet
Posted on August 9, 2011 at 2:10amI like your idea…. looter shooting. I say use rubber bullets for normal rioters. You start breaking windows, setting fires or throwing molitav (sp?) cocktails.. then we switch to real bullets.
80% of these people are probably so stoned they don‘t even know what they’re protesting.
Report Post »olddog
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:46pmOh Wait, don’t tell me the Left is out in the streets rioting,we‘ve been told over and over it’s the right that’s violent… Looks more like a race war…
Report Post »Mimi24
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 11:04pmYou are right. For God’s sake look out for those tea partiers ; )
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on August 9, 2011 at 3:56amWhy not declare it a civil war because it is just the beginning?
Report Post »wesleyapril
Posted on August 9, 2011 at 7:50amI have a friend that lives in London, primarily most of those rioting are of the darker skin persuasion – which leads me to wonder, are they of the slime religion also?
I saw a tweet that the Scottish police were on alert – that the army will not come in to help the police, that there will be over 16,000 police patrolling the streets tonight, Cameron is back from vacation and is calling Parliament in – maybe he should get those imams that he put on there to tweet or sms their followers to stop rioting?
I highly suggest Amsterdam 2012 – interesting reading.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:44pmThese “things” are a disgrace to their nation. Times are hard enough and they pull this “excuse for looting” nonsense with the Olympics coming their way? The olympics usually lose money for the hosting nation…with this crap going on they will have fewer tourists willing to come over and spend their money.
Time to enact martial law, open fire and cull the herd.
Report Post »starman70
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:57pmThe question is: How long before this kind of crap starts right here in America? The inner cities of every major American city are being stirred up by the likes of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the Black Panthers.
We need to be alert. We need to be ready!
Report Post »Steve
Posted on August 9, 2011 at 3:32amstarman70
Like all riots here. example watts they burn down their own freakin neighboorhoods. All I know is unlike Britan we’ve got plenty of firarms and ammo. Come on in and take a number .45/ 9mm / 12 gauge. whats your pleasure?
Report Post »pfrancis1965
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:41pmThey have to bring in the Army to shoot these Bastards. The police should start shooting looters & arsonists.
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 10:10pmThey need to get hardcore like during the Middle Ages, really stomp ‘em big time. Take no prisoners, let the carcasses rot where they fall. Sadly, that aspect of Western Man has been brainwashed and bred out of him and it won’t be seen again. They might as well just put on pink dresses and dance around like cute girls.
Report Post »Mimi24
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 11:21pmAB5R
Report Post »I agree with you. Where have all the men gone? I want to laugh about the pink dresses but feel more like crying. It‘s beginning to look like this might be a women’s revolution. Or women and us old gray haired tea party “terrorists” anyway. Someone has to stand up for our children and grandchildren.
sizzler2220
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:41pmIsn’t European socialism a wonderful thing? Pelosi, Reid, Obama, and all the liberal follwers want the same for your town.
Report Post »blownaway
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:58pmexactly… wake up America, we are merely steps behind.
Report Post »Affirmative Blaction
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:41pmdid you guys see grandma piven in the background running off with a playstation?
Report Post »I SPY
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:39pmPopulation control is the only answer to the world’s chaos. Liberals, Muslims, Atheists must all be eradicated. It’s a job for Bruce Willis!
Report Post »Affirmative Blaction
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:45pmIf it were not for the hilarious bruce willis reference, I would call you insane.
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 10:04pmCan’t agree with the ERADICATION solution, the rest of us really don’t have the right to make that decision. BUT, that being said, WE DAMN WELL DO HAVE EVERY RIGHT, to send ALL of them Somewhere Else. FAR FAR AWAY from the United States of America. The British should begin full scale round up and DEPORTATION of all those that you named just don’t forget the GROUP that has brought about ALL of this WORLD WIDE. Israel should be notified to start immediately building housing for the millions that need to be returned to their “Promised Land”.
Report Post »wesleyapril
Posted on August 9, 2011 at 7:51amI spy – or else send them all to a galaxy far far away that we never have to hear from them again :)
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:39pmThis must be the “revolution in the streets” that the Far Left wackos who comment in the NYT are “calling for.” You know, the ones who hate “rich fat cats ” and “capitalism.” I hope our police are ready to squelch the little anarchists. I’d be glad to help the cops. Hope some law maker writes some laws to hold these jerks (Or their bad parents ) pay for any and all of the damages they cause. They should then be sent to reform school or Gitmo as they are a danger to society. Also wonder if the Far Left in Britain, angered by the conservative Cameron’s take over, aren’t fostering some of this as they try to tale down Murdoch, Cameron and Scotland Yard. Despicable.
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on August 9, 2011 at 4:02amIt is called an insurrection, a rebellion, civil war. It is what the lefties want. It is the party that brought us the civil war of 1861. The same party used the minorities to take apart our country back then, and they are using them all over the world today. Just sending in the police is not going to stop it.
Report Post »wesleyapril
Posted on August 9, 2011 at 7:54amREMEMBER FOLKS – and please let all your friends know – THE AMERICAN DAY OF RAGE is SEPTEMBER 17th -stock up on food, and don‘t go out if you aren’t the right skin color.
I also find it ironic, lol – whenenver anything bad happens in Europe notice how they refer to them in the press “the anarchist” “anarchy” – somewhere in that news story – print, film, or radio – you will hear that word -but once all is said and done what do we find out? That it is a slime that did it – :) I guess they came up with a key word for that religion of satan.
Report Post »sizzler2220
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:38pmIsn’t European Socialism a wonderful thing? And, to think, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and the lib followers want the same for America.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 9:06pmBut here the citizens are armed
Report Post »sooner12
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:35pmIt’s so nice to know that another country is having problems with its minorities. Say it isn’t so, mate.
Report Post »the58thstate
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:30pmto think they cant defend themselves because of gun laws. when it happens here, and it will, there will be some dead thugs.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:35pmThe flames never set on the British Empire….
Report Post »ChuckJ
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 9:34pmUntil the govt. wants the guns….using the excuse of an emergency to TRY and take them.
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 10:08pmChukj,
The SOONER they try, the BETTER.
Report Post »freedom_gurl35
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:29pmWhat we’re seeing is exactly what is going to happen here in the U.S. once Congress makes cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, public pensions, and other entitlements. It’s only a matter of time.
Report Post »annieoakley
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 9:35pmPlus the O Admin. and Georgie Soros want your PRIVATE 401 k.
Report Post »sbmmomma
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 9:37pmyep! Too many people “want” but expect us to work then give it all to them.
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on August 9, 2011 at 4:05amYou got it. O set us up for the big one and he knows it, and the rest of the government, politicians, know it too. Insurrection, rebellion, civil war is coming to a neighborhood near you.
Report Post »rbosque
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:28pmEurope reaping what the sowed: political correctness.
Hey England! Have more fun importing more people from the third world!!!!
Report Post »cassandra
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:26pmI bet rev.wright is dancing tonight, anybody that gets shot while rioting deseves it,
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:24pmAs bad as it is, you really can’t feel sorry for the British. Same thing really when they get taken over by Islam and are forced to pray to Mecca five times a day. Sure, it is tragic, but it is in no way a surprise. England was lost long ago. America is soon to follow. The multicultural brainwashing has been so effective that the average twit in the West believes in multiculturalism stronger than they believe in whatever religion they may or may not claim to belong to. There simply is no coming back from the point Western civilization has fallen to. Some of us may see it, but seriously, you know we can’t change it, we are merely observers watching our own civilization swirl down the toilet like a dump taken after a too large meal at the buffet.
Report Post »DirectlyUnPCman
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:22pmThese people are a disease. They stand for nothing but what they can get for themselves. They could care less about anyone else and what they do to them. Some of us realized this years ago, and we are ready. Dont come to me to take what I have. A dead progressive/thug wont bother anyone anymore. I’m cool with it.
Report Post »CulperGang
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:20pmHow is liberal tolerance of multiculturism working for ya? I don’t have a problem with this as long as they are take\ing out the liberal white trash. They deserve it. BTW this is just what the liberal trash new world order marxist were waiting for: CHAOS.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:18pm“We don‘t need no water let the M’er F’er burn!”
Report Post »congleal
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:17pmSpent a little time in London . . .couldn’t find a real Englishman anywhere! Payback for past liberal policies! You don‘t know what you have until it’s gone! Good night London!
Report Post »rflaaskog
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:15pmThis is what happens when your government takes your guns away, you cannot protect your property.
Report Post »Remember the constitution, keep the constitution, protect the constitution.
noline
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:23pmThis is what happens when you take peoples means of self defense away and replaces it with welfare
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:41pmAre they not permitted shotguns?
Report Post »notreally
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:15pmWhat a bunch of racists these Brits are! They deserve every criminal act the oppressed minorities commit against these racist white Brits.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:48pmSmith and Wesson was made for “oppressed minorites.” Preferably while in the act of looting, burning, raping and murdering. I have mine for our “oppressed minority” when they come uninvited to my castle or give me just cause on the streets. I call it the equalizer or persuader I suggest that the Brits start getting some of their own.
Report Post »TruthSpeaker
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:13pmLook for the union label. I know its there somewhere. These are the boots on the ground for socialists.
Report Post »Talmid of Yeshua
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:09pmHow is that multi-culti BS working for you now England? Coming to an American city near you soon. If you are white, I’d suggest buying lots of guns and ammo, and extra canned food and bottled water. Whites are going to be targeted.
And I’m a Jew, so don’t even think about calling me a white supremacist.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:17pmThese people are the punk Anarchists of the 70′s ! New generation of people that love to destroy what they don’t understand!
Report Post »congleal
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:18pmHoorah!
Report Post »notreally
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:19pmBrits can’t own guns, which is why the savages run wild. Try burning my town down and the savages will pay a price.
Report Post »boomboom
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:20pmAmen to that!
Said it before…Lived in 3rd fl. apt.
Philly 1984 when mayor Wilson Not-So-Goode
burned West Philly down.
We collected belgian blocks (cobblestones) and stowed them in the apt.
Report Post »Just in case the riot spread to my hood.
Big/Heavy/Deadly rocks.
wisehiney
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:21pmI was hoping that you would join our hunting party, instead of sitting back and being targeted.
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:27pmFine, I wont call you a White Supremacist – I’ll just call you a fool.
The uprising isn’t white vs black, it’s the oppressed against the oppressors. I can promise you, black, white, brown, yellow, purple, it doesn’t matter – if you are fighting against the people you are part of the problem. Movements shake governments, that‘s how America was made and that’s how it will survive. The second you start to think of “we the people” as “we whites” or “we blacks” is the second you have divided the house that once could stand.
You are correct, this is coming to a city near you, but it shall be a call to reforms not a call to arms.
http://projectmayhem2012.org/
Read and educate. Your friends are not your friends.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:38pmIN12, I’ll make my own target selections, thank you very much. And, by the way, I am highly educated already. MY friends ARE my friends.
Report Post »Steel Awesome
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 9:00pmWrong. Skin color doesn‘t have anything to do with what’s driving the country into the ground.
Report Post »Richard Compton
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:08pmTake a good look people, what will happen here to bring this kind of violence to your town? We’ve seen thugs firing AK”S at a buss in Pennsylvania, we’ve seen gangs of thugs attacking people leaving a state fair in Wisconsin, we heard of flash robbing in several states, where groups of teens raid a store and steal everything they can. So what would it take to set off what is happening in England? Frances Fox Piven, has been waiting for this since the Watts Riots!
Report Post »Steel Awesome
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:51pmHey, the kids are getting ready to start a new school year. They have to sharpen their shooting skills before going back to the front lines. Give ‘em a break.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 9:18pmPiven is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America and serves as one of the eight honorary chairs of that organization.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 9:30pmHopefully our police and FBI have been reading the NYT and the comments these Far Left jerks have been writing for years. They have an agenda and , please God, our law enforcement is aware of it. And, hopefully, Eric Holder and the DOJ ( and Van Jones’ groups) haven’t been able to restrict law enforcement pre-planning. We know that this DOJ is very “sensitive” to the rights of minorities and for those “abused” by the police. We know they did not choose to prosecute the “ New ” Black Panthers….
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on August 9, 2011 at 4:12amAll that has to happen is the government say we are going to cut your welfare benies and there will be civil war.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:05pmNot the same mentality in London as when Londoners showed a “stiff upper lip” and toughed out the Blitz. Now, instead of Nazi bombers setting fire to London, it is some Londoners themselves!
Report Post »So sad.
Quagaar Warrior
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Report Post »Londoners are generational natives. These are imported dirtbags that were welcomed in by liberal open border policies. Ship ‘em all back across the Mediterranean Sea and sink the ship on the way. Then close off the borders to them and adopt common sense immigration laws.
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thecrow
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 8:28pmhttp://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/memory-holes-in-the-floor/
Report Post »Windwalker
Posted on August 8, 2011 at 10:02pm@Quagaar Warrior
You are absolutely right. Civilized, orderly, law abiding cultures are being over run with and by cultures who share none of the traditional values of an orderly society. Some are basically tribal in nature, often illiterate in their own country of origin. These people are allowed to cross borders and infiltrate, some legally and some illegal. They bring their own brand of disgusting habits and customs. Much of this “diversity” will never be overcome. Read the “Bell Curve”
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