Loose Christian Movement Says End of Days in May
- Posted on January 3, 2011 at 6:57am by
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RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — If there had been time, Marie Exley would have liked to start a family. Instead, the 32-year-old Army veteran has less than six months left, which she’ll spend spreading a stark warning: Judgment Day is almost here.
Exley is part of a movement of Christians loosely organized by radio broadcasts and websites, independent of churches and convinced by their reading of the Bible that the end of the world will begin on May 21, 2011.
To get the word out, they’re using billboards and bus stop benches, traveling caravans of RVs and volunteers passing out pamphlets on street corners. Cities from Bridgeport, Conn., to Little Rock, Ark., now have billboards with the ominous message, and mission groups are traveling in countries from Latin America to Africa to spread the news outside the U.S.
“A lot of people might think, ‘The end’s coming, let’s go party,’” said Exley, a veteran of two deployments in Iraq. “But we’re commanded by God to warn people. I wish I could just be like everybody else, but it’s so much better to know that when the end comes, you’ll be safe.”
In August, Exley left her home in Colorado Springs, Colo., to work with Oakland, Calif.-based Family Radio Worldwide, the independent Christian ministry whose leader, Harold Camping, has calculated the May 21 date based on his reading of the Bible.
She is organizing traveling columns of RVs carrying the message from city to city, a logistics challenge that her military experience has helped solve. The vehicles are scheduled to be in five North Carolina cities between now and the second week of January, but Exley will shortly be gone: overseas, where she hopes to eventually make it back to Iraq.
“I don’t really have plans to come back,” she said. “Time is short.”
Not everyone who‘s heard Camping’s message is taking such a dramatic step. They’re remaining in their day-to-day lives, but helping publicize the prophecy in other ways. Allison Warden, of Raleigh, has been helping organize a campaign using billboards, post cards and other media in cities across the U.S. through a website, We Can Know.
The 29-year-old payroll clerk laughs when asked about reactions to the message, which is plastered all over her car.
“It’s definitely against the grain, I know that,” she said. “We‘re hoping people won’t take our word for it, or Harold Camping’s word for it. We’re hoping that people will search the scriptures for themselves.”
Camping, 89, believes the Bible essentially functions as a cosmic calendar explaining exactly when various prophecies will be fulfilled.
The retired civil engineer said all his calculations come from close readings of the Bible, but that external events like the foundation of the state of Israel in 1948 are signs confirming the date.
“Beyond the shadow of a doubt, May 21 will be the date of the Rapture and the day of judgment,” he said.
The doctrine known as the Rapture teaches that believers will be taken up to heaven, while everyone else will remain on earth for a period of torment, concluding with the end of time. Camping believes that will happen in October.
“If May 21 passes and I’m still here, that means I wasn’t saved. Does that mean God’s word is inaccurate or untrue? Not at all,” Warden said.
The belief that Christ will return to earth and bring an end to history has been a basic element of Christian belief since the first century. The Book of Revelation, which comes last in the New Testament, describes this conclusion in vivid language that has inspired Christians for centuries.
But few churches are willing to set a date for the end of the world, heeding Jesus’ words in the gospels of Mark and Matthew that no one can know the day or hour it will happen. Predictions like Camping’s, though, aren’t new. One of the most famous in history was by the Baptist leader William Miller, who predicted the end for Oct. 22, 1844, which came to be known as the Great Disappointment among his followers, some of who subsequently founded the Seventh Day Adventist church.
“In the U.S., there is still a significant population, mostly Protestant, who look at the Bible as kind of a puzzle, and the puzzle is God‘s word and it’s predicting when the end times will come,” said Catherine Wessinger, a professor at Loyola University in New Orleans who studies millennialism, the belief in pending apocalypse.
“A lot of times these prophecies gain traction when difficulties are happening in society,” she said. “Right now, there’s a lot of insecurity, and this is a promise that says it’s not all random, it‘s part of God’s plan.”
Past predictions that failed to come true don’t have any bearing on the current calculation, believers maintain.
“It would be like telling the Wright Brothers that every other attempt to fly has failed, so you shouldn’t even try,” said Chris McCann, who works with eBible Fellowship, one of the groups spreading the message.
For believers like McCann, theirs is actually a message of hope and compassion: God’s compassion for people, and the hope that there’s still time to be saved.
That, ultimately, is what spurs on Exley, who said her beliefs have alienated her from most of her friends and family. Her hope is that not everyone who hears her message will mock it, and that even people who dismiss her now might still come to believe.
“If you still want to say we’re crazy, go ahead,” she said. “But it doesn’t hurt to look into it.”
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Family Radio Worldwide: http://www.familyradio.com
eBible Fellowship: http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/
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burke
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:05amWith this black muslum in the whitehouse it could happen any day now.
Report Post »AWatchman4Him
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:05amThe way they (Feds) monitor everything, there probably at your door by now. That was a good one though!!!
Report Post »BeckIsNuts
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:14amBlack muslim? Wrong on both counts Burke. But we do all know now that you have racial issues, like so many of Glenneth’s other followers.
Report Post »AWatchman4Him
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:26ambeckisnuts,
He was being funny not racial and speaking the truth (he is black and a muslim), by any definition of the word he is not a follower of Christ (Christian). I suppose if I said I found a brown cat that crossed the border without documentation, that that makes me racist against hispanics, when in fact I’m making a joke. Your spun to tight, loosen up. Instead of being mad at the world try enjoying life and a little humor now and then.
Report Post »BeckIsNuts
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 12:29pmawatchman, there is no humor in that statement. None. And you are out of line speaking about the intent of other posters. Your comment has no merit at all.
Report Post »AWatchman4Him
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 1:15pmbeckisnuts,
Report Post »I found humor in it and the truth, what evidence do you have that he is being racial or is it the truth that bothers you the most? If I am out of line then how come everyone who posts a comment you ridicule and disagree with, they call that hypocrisy. Everyone is entitled to there own opinion, that is as long as they see it your way, right! examine yourself before you judge others so quickly. I have no problem with you giving your opinion, right or wrong but let others do the same and stop being so condemning. Not everyone see’s things as you do or even I do. Chill !!!
BeckIsNuts
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 1:48pmWhere? Explain the humor, if you can and tell us what the truth of the statement is. Please be specific.
Report Post »AWatchman4Him
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 5:00pmBeckisnuts,
Enjoy conversing with you and do look forward to future chats, however seeing that you have a need to argue with others rather than reasoning, for me to explain the humor would be pointless, seeing how your not going to see the humor regardless of how I or anyone else explains it. I will look you up on other coming topics, not to argue but to reason and debate. Have a good one, talk soon!!!
Report Post »THE D1SC1PLE
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 5:11am@ BECKISNUTS I have never heard one racial remark come out of Becks mouth, and I have been listening to and watching him for years. Then again this may be another try at making those of us on the RIGHT out to be racist huh?
Report Post »RL97
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:02am“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.” – Matthew 24:36
The end times may be near, but it is doing a disservice to people to set dates that any knowledgeable person knows will come and go without event. The people will be disallusioned and fall back into a state of unreadiness, convinced the rapture isn’t coming at all.
Report Post »Ezekiel38
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 6:56pmHe is coming back soon! While we do not know when, world events tell us that His return is at hand. On the bright side, hope the subject of His return brings some of us to reconcile with God! The quickest way we can meet with him is in a sudden death!
Report Post »SND97
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:00amWe’re supposed to live everyday like he will return anyway, maybe this is simply something to get people to read scriptures. But even if these people are correct on the May date, I say YEAH!!!!!!!!!! I don;t think they actually know the date but HERES HOPING THEY ARE RIGHT!!!!
Report Post »vahunters
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:59amEveryday should be lived FOR CHRIST as though it were our last……
Report Post »If this Christian’s groups actions lead to witnessing and leading people to accepting Jesus Christ as their Savior then they have done no harm but have been misguided with attempting to establish a date of the rapture. Expending more effort on trying to predict a date that is hidden from man than spent evangelizing would be a misuse of efforts and time. God wants us to spread the Good News around the ends of the earth.
According to scripture the rapture happens and then the 7 years of tribulation on earth will occur. This information is available for all in Revelation but I suggest you get a study bible to understand this information. Additionally if your heart is hardened and you are unsaved you might have great difficulty in understanding the scripture.
A (false) peace accord in Israel will preclude the Rapture and those saved will be removed from the earth immediately.
Dr. David Jeremiah has a great series on the End of times,rapture, tribulation period.
I can only imagine those who have not accepted the Lord will be wondering what happened and where did there friends and loved ones go.
There will then be a false peace on earth for 3.5 years followed by the greatest tribulation period 3.5 years this earth will ever experience. I imagine Rwanda, Sudan, Bosnia, Iraq type genocide all mixed together as how the final days will play out but magnified on a scale of 10X.
Matthew 28:16-20 The Great Commission: As Christians we are all called to witness and spread the Good News. This evangelizing effort is not just for priests and missionaries as we are all called to . There is a ministry in your immediate circle of influence, community,workplace, schools, etc. The end is near we should not be concerned with identifying the exact date.
Jack44Rhodes
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:54pmSomething of interest, The Rapture Question…
Report Post »http://godfire.net/Rapture.html
Moocephus
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:59amTo set a date is to call Jesus a liar. God forgive them in their pride.
Report Post »Reasonabiliy
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:59amI think it’s much more likely to be the second coming of the British/progressives to rapture our Constitution and set up a 3 trillion page tax code on that date.
Report Post »AWatchman4Him
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:09amJust 3 Trillion, don‘t you think that’s a underestimation ?
Report Post »dpselfe
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:57amYa know, I’m a Christian, and I truly believe in the inevitable return of Jesus, but when God’s word specifically says that no one, not even Jesus, knows when he’l lreturn except the Father, I have to take that to mean it in a very literal sense. Here‘s what God’s Word says:
3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.
9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.
Now, maybe there’s a way to interpret that as 5/21/11, but I just don’t see it. Should we as Christians be prepared for 5/21/11? ABSOLUTELY! But there is no promise that anything will happen that day.
Eternity: Smoking or non smoking? It‘s you’re choice completely.
Report Post »Barbie
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:20amNo such thing as the rapture in the Bible. The suffering of the many are joined to the one who suffered for all Jesus the Christ.
Report Post »Craig
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:39amActually Barbie there is. If you are looking for the english word “rapture” then you are right, but then you wouldnt find the word trinity either. We all know that we get (most) of the english language from the latin language. 2 Tim 3:16-17 (when speaking about the rapture and end times) the english word is (NKJV) “caught up”, if you look that word up in the concordance the greek word used there is harpoza, which means to be forcefully snatched up. The latin word for harpoza is rapturo where we get the english word rapture.
Report Post »Richio
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 9:38amTypically, when people talk about “the rapture”, they mean: pre-tribulation rapture.
There will indeed be a catching-away (harpoza) for those who happen to be alive and remain.
However, 1Thes 4:15-17 states it twice – making the sequence clear: the first resurrection occurs first.
(It’s basically the same event: the passing from mortality into immortality – whether one be dead or alive at that particular moment.)
I’m pretty sure Rev 20:4,5 isn’t at the beginning of the book of revelation.
This “set date” will come and go. At some point (6th seal) it will become obvious to everyone that we’re in the tribulation.
Report Post »The pre-tribbers will be quite upset that the gospel of the rapture did not transpire as had been preached to them.
I suppose many will fall away from the disappointment.
I hope Harold Camping’s date setters don’t also lose heart.
AWatchman4Him
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 9:39amIf what you say is true then I have nothing to worry about, but if the rapture is true then you will have a lot to worry about. Better to be safe than sorry !
Report Post »Richio
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 11:13am[‘Dunno who you were responding to, Watchman]
“IF” the rapture is 7th trumpet, then you (and I) may well have to die for Christ.
“IF” Paul was wrong in 1Thes 4, and we are spared suffering for the sake of Christ, then what have I lost?
(lost – according to the flesh)
I don’t see how your believing in a pre-trib rapture puts you at an advantage.
I’ve heard Van Impi declare that “our faith is in the rapture!”
Report Post »I DO know that some believe that if one doesn’t have a pre-trib faith, one will be left behind to suffer as a martyr.
Perhaps that is your stance.
AWatchman4Him
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 11:38amRichio,
I was responding to Barbie.
Report Post »Jack44Rhodes
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 9:25pmThat “eternity” smoking or non smoking thought might be reconsidered. Check this:
Report Post »http://godfire.net/eby/saviour_of_the_world.html
THE D1SC1PLE
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:00pmRichio,
Report Post »Can you explain why the church is not even mentioned in Rev. after chapter 4 through the tribulation, and is not mentioned again until the new heaven is being described in ch 20?
Richio
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 12:28amI’ll give it a shot, Disciple.
‘Probably because there were seven letters specifically to the “seven” churches. Only two got a passing grade.
The remainder of the text describes situations and circumstances concerning the tribulation.
Rather than referencing “the church” several more successful sub-groups are described. Christians are also referred to as individuals of a particular group.
(ie: “Here is the patience of the saints…”)
Now, can you explain why Paul wrote that those who are alive and remain would not precede the first resurrection from the dead?
“For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, WILL NOT PRECEDE those who have fallen asleep.
For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And THE DEAD in Christ WILL RISE FIRST.
THEN we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.”
1 Thes 4:15-17
‘Seems like a pretty clear sequence to me – even stated twice for emphasis and clarity.
I know that recently a few TV teachers have taken to moving the resurrection to before the tribulation in order to maintain the doctrine of the secret rapture.
By “secret rapture”, I mean the “secret return of Jesus when every eye shall not behold Him” :0
…before He comes a third time. :0
Ok, that last part had a degree of sarcasm (toward them – not you), but isn’t that the logical conclusion?
Report Post »THE D1SC1PLE
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 4:48amRichio,
Report Post »You quoted it yourself (and I have the upmost respect for you) though, “THEN we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.”
1 Thes 4:15-17
To me, in my extremely humble opinion, that Paul is describing one event there. “ ”THEN we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with THEM (being the dead in Christ). And there multiple scriptures that say that we have not been appointed to His wrath. But either way, I have nothing but respect for your opinion and interpretation, the important thing is that no matter what (pre-trib, mid-trib or post trib) we get to spend an eternity with Him. All I was doing (with NO sarcasm intended towards Barbie) was just stating that the Bible does speak of the rapture, not necessarily when it will take place. And I have done a lot of studying of the “roots” of my faith.
Craig
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 5:03amMy mistake on the mis-quotation of scripture! Definitely not 2 Tim 3:16-17 (just got done with a 12 hr shift before I had responded to that) 1 Thess 4: 15-18 is what I meant to quote. Please dont stone me! =)
Report Post »Richio
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 10:48amWow! It sounds like we’re fishin’ on the same side of the boat, Disciple.
I assumed that you were of the pre-trib persuasion, because the church not being specifically mentioned (past a certain point) is often used as “proof” of a pre-tribulation rapture.
I fully believe in the harpazo, only it is not the escape that is popularly preached. It is the other side of the resurrection ‘coin’. It is the resurrection (as it were) of those who somehow survive to that point – that is: those who still have their heads. Scripture seems to indicate a 7th trumpet timing – before the bowls of wrath.
Some believe that the 6th seal is the beginning of wrath, but notice who is declaring this.
This isn’t a group who would be familiar with prophecy other than: “Oh oh! Real bad stuff happening!”
However, a trumpet is not a symbol of wrath, it is an alarm and it seems to accomplish that purpose.
I’m of the opinion that “mystery of God” (Rev 10:7) is the resurrection/rapture “mystery” in 1Cor 15:51.
And that the “last trump” (v 52) is the 7th trumpet in Revelation.
My sarcasm was aimed toward Perry Stone and others who’ve “moved” the resurrection to accommodate a pre-trib timing.
Barbee’s objection to “the rapture” could well be due to the popular use of the word ”rapture” as the pre-tribulation rapture.
Like you, I also became interested in the Hebrew roots of the faith.
…At least to more fully understand the context.
’Still can’t find a local (non-Babylonian) church, though.
(Note: Craig, we knew what’cha meant)
Report Post »Richio
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 12:14pmClarifications:
“Some believe that the 6th seal is the beginning of wrath, but notice who is declaring this.
This isn’t a group who would be familiar with prophecy other than: ‘Oh oh! Real bad stuff happening!’ ”
[1] The “group” I’m talking about…
Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
[2] I talked about the symbolism of trumpets…
Report Post »Neither does a seal (the 6th) symbolize wrath.
THE D1SC1PLE
Posted on January 5, 2011 at 11:36pmThis here is an awesome resourse, and sense space is limited I’ll just post the link.
http://www.biblebb.com/files/RAPTURE.HTM
Report Post »Richio
Posted on January 6, 2011 at 12:52am‘Pretty good overview of the major popular views on the site.
So, yer sayin’…
Report Post »The dead in Christ rise first
…and then the “rapture”
…and THEN the tribulation?
joecitizen
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:50amAt all times, our house should be in order but to set a date… only He knows.
Report Post »PAAM
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:50amhow about we live everyday as if it were out last
Report Post »exdem
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:42amIsnt that what this administration has done since it took office? Spend, spend, spend like theres no tomorrow?
Report Post »2gether
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:21amamrn
Report Post »Ialmostforgot
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:45amKnowing the exact time when Jesus returns takes all the fun out of “BOO”.
Report Post »alwayssora
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:37amOnly God knows when the end will come. AMEN!
Report Post »Ray2447
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:31amYes, He has appointed a day and an hour, but He’s also said that no one knows the day, or the hour. How presumptuous of these people to think there word is greater than God’s.
Report Post »puck30
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:30amAnyway they can move it up so I can skip doing my taxes?
Report Post »TennesseeConservative
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 12:53pmAmen to that Puck!! If anyone is interested to see what the historical church believed about the end times. Google Moses Lowman, Jonathon Edwards was a fan of his, although he disagreed on several points. Basically though he agreed generally with his book. A paraphrase on the book of revelation. Written in the 1700′s. A completely different view, from most Christians today. There belief helped the founding of America, the end of slavery in Britain, i.e., reformed believers. See what they thought for yourselves.
Report Post »LifeProject2012
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:27amCan anyone summarize the Final Propesies we are still waiting on? My timing may be off, but isn’t the creation of an agreement protecting Israel one of the keys? No chance of that happening anytime soon… Then again, seeing the way everyone lined up to worship Obama, the Anti-Christ will have a great home on MSNBC…
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:28amThe Temple and the Second Coming shows readers how the rebuilding of the Temple will prepare the way for Christ to return-in our generation.
Report Post »AWatchman4Him
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 9:33amThe peace agreement your speaking about is after the church or the bride of Christ is removed and Gog and Magog (the people to the far north of Israel, Russia and there allies) are destroyed, then a peace agreement will be established for seven years, which by the way is the same time frame Obama’s peace plan is for, and after 3 and a half years it will be broken, which by the way is what Obama does with all his promises. When the peace agreement is signed then the tribulation period begins. Hope this helps !
Report Post »slimkendall
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:26amhttp://www.equip.org/broadcasts/questions-and-answers-with-hank20101309
This is a link to The Bible Answer Man Hank Hanegraaff’s audio discussion of Harold Camping and this prediction.
You will appreciate Hank’s candor.
Report Post »davesdadmsk
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 12:20pmHank is as much a heretic as Camping and Camping is definitly a hereitic.
Report Post »conservativeme
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:25am1Th 5:2 “For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.” Hummm . . . never heard of a thief that put on a calendar for all to see, when they were going to break in. Christ will come back when it’s “least” expected. Not when it’s broadcasted. Just be ready . . .
Report Post »TennesseeConservative
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 11:41amCamping has predicted other dates. He was of course wrong.
Report Post »FaithGraceAmmo
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 11:42amjust for giggles look at verse 4—-it says the “brethren” aka “believers” will not be overtaken as a thief
****just saying that maybe all these other verses that reference “man” not knowing are **insert*** non-believers (something worth looking into)
GeauxAlready
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:21amWhat if they are right?
If you knew all would end, what would you do?
Report Post »CygnusX1
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:12pmRack up my credit cards and spend like there was no tommorrow….OH! WAIT!….Obama, Pelosi, Reid and all the rest have already been doing that to America!
They must already have known the END IS NIGH!
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:20amThis isn’t our place to wait for the end. Live today as we should everyday. Talk to your kids. 60 years ago parents spent more than 50% of their time with their children. With all if the electronic advancement and work demands since, parents spend around 15% of their time with their children.
Grand parents, question your children of their family quality time. Aunts and Uncles question your siblings of their quality time. Give each other a helping hand.
Failure to get a grip on your Childs life, no matter how old they are, their end is already here.
Report Post »NoName22
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 9:33amI was listening to a sermon on the radio once and the preacher made such a great point. He was talking about this very issue and put a nice spin on it.
He said that parents send their kids to day care, clubs, camps, rely on public school, to raise and take care of their children………How can they expect not to go to a retirement home when they get older? You never personally took care of your children, why should they personally care for you?
Karma is inherent in God’s law.
Report Post »Mister President
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:19amAt least one thing is certain: the world will not end on May 21, 2011.
Report Post »dpselfe
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:00amAlthough I agree it’s not likely, to go as far as to say it’s “certain” is a pretty daring claim. For the record I disagree with this young lady. Matthew 24 is pretty clear about how to tell “when”, and there’s no calendar in there.
Report Post »We could go to the Daniel theory of missing weeks, but that doesn’t provide a date either.
oldguy48
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:18amMaybe the end of the world conincides with pulling the plug on the dollar. Many will think that the world has ended. Then, when the fear sets in, they are planning the end of the republic.
Report Post »Prepare.
Bigbird1960
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:17amI hope all when the time comes it looks like the end of Ghost and a bunch of black demons come in and swoop up obama, reid, pelosi(they are gonna have a fight with that witch) and all the liberal nuts on the planet, Kate Couric, Oberman, Mathews, talk about being in hell surrounded by all these mutants.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:17amhttp://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/scitech/2011/01/01/doomsday-duds-armageddon-predictions-proven-wrong/?test=faces#slide=1
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:08am“But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no not the angels of heaven,but my Father only.”Matthew 24:36. My great grandfather would spend hours ,even days down in his basement in study of the end times prophecy. Periodically he would emerge to announce a date certain for the end of the world and when it passed he would retreat to his basement to re figure. Much as I appreciate the young Patriots’ service in our Military. Much as I agree “time seems short”And know the watchmen are to be ready.
Report Post »Only the Father knows when it is time for His Son to go get His bride.And He will not come unannounced-though suddenly when no man can say for certain.That He is coming is enough to know.
MJ1025
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:17amThank you for posting.
Report Post »Insipid
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:24amThank for the post, I was going to post something similiar but yours hit the spot.
Report Post »FreeIndeed
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:25amexactly…you CANNOT set a date. That would just be ignorant and a waste of time. I what does he mean he doesnt know if he will be saved or not…either you are or you arent. If you arent confident in it then you have some problems.
“Let your hearts not be troubled”
Report Post »Oil_Robb
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:26amAMEN and AMEN
Report Post »Bullfarm
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:31amMy sentiments exactly…
Report Post »truth4at
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:45amAmen!! I bought into the whole date thing for a while, thankfully the Lord convicted me! What saddens me the most is that this man is basing his salvation off of his man made, what to be God datdate
Report Post »Craig
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:41amAmen!
Report Post »AWatchman4Him
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:43amI agree,
Report Post »If they have set an exact date then they are considered to be false prophets, because no one knows the day or hour. 2000 years ago these people would be stoned for making a false prediction. Time is short, it is obvious to those that are awake. Matt.24:38 says in short, In the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and “ giving in marriage” which translated in the Greek means, a perversion of marriage or throwing marriage out the door, sounds like the day were living in. This is the generation and the time is right, as far as setting a date, don’t think so! However sure would like to go to Vegas on this prediction, if I were a betting man, but I’m not.
neverending
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:48amExactly – no man does know we only know there will be that day.
Report Post »Psytoxic
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 3:23pmHow does Christ not know the time if He and His Father are the same entity?
Report Post »ben_g88ia
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 11:18pm@Psytoxic they are the same God but they have slightly different thoughts and wills….i don‘t know if i’m explaining it right……they’re the same but separate
Report Post »Helldogger
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:06amThe bells are ringin’ & the lights are flashin, but I don’t see the train!
Report Post »KevStutzCanDo
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:37amThat’s a good one! Although the train is still coming, we just don’t know when.
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:41amYou don’t see a train, I don’t see a brain. I‘ll put my trust in the Bible which says these people don’t know squat.
Report Post »Bearfoot
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:37amWant to read what the Bible actually says on this matter?
Report Post »Mark chapter 13
burke
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:00amI thought this would not happen till 12/21/2012.
Stuck_in_CA
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:38amThe Word gives us the season — not the year… May through September, the reign of the antichrist.
If you believe the FIRST supernatural entity to come is the TRUE Christ, you WILL be deceived.
2 Thessalonians 2.
BeckIsNuts
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:50amWhat absolute rubbish. There’s nothing else left to say on this story.
Pocono Countryboy
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:00am“Stuck_in_CA
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:38am
The Word gives us the season — not the year… May through September, the reign of the antichrist.
If you believe the FIRST supernatural entity to come is the TRUE Christ, you WILL be deceived.”
BINGO
One detail different–May through Sept –don’t forget–shortened by half!
Report Post »jgeezy
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:16amBeckisnuts, Thanks for being rational.
Report Post »JGP
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:21am“But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.” and, well, except for Harold Camping. I don’t think so. The Bible says “no man knows”, Harold says “this man knows”. Well, which one is wrong, the Bible or the man?
danyelle55
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:48amThe founder of this idea… His name is Harold Camping, famous for his failed prophecy concerning the return of Christ in 1994, and now becoming more famous for his teaching against the very church of Jesus Christ.
Harold Camping is the president of Family Radio. He teaches that God has done away with the church, and thus there should be no more local congregations, elders, deacons, and ordinances such as baptism or the Lord’s Supper. He maintains that the Holy Spirit has left the church as an empty shell with no power to proclaim the gospel.
….Oh man, this guys sounds like trouble, but at least his reign will end on May 21st!! There’s always a bright side!
Stuck_in_CA
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:52am@Pocono Countryboy
You got it! Thanks for adding clarity.
NoName22
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 8:56amMatthew:24:42-44 (KJ)
42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Ser Scot
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 9:01am“No man shall know the date and time”. How hard is that to understand?
Taquoshi
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 9:02amJGP -
I’m with you. I’m not going to stand there and tell God Almighty to “save the date’ because my mathematical say that is the proper date. Just a quick refresher course – He’s God Almighty. I am not. He can do what He chooses to, and is consistent with His Word. I do not tell Him what to do.
One statement in the article is flat out wrong….
“If May 21 passes and I’m still here, that means I wasn’t saved. Does that mean God’s word is inaccurate or untrue? Not at all,” Warden said.
While I am all for people taking a good,long look at their lives and considering Christ, I object to the statement that if we are still here on May 22nd, then we are not Christians. Who is and who isn’t saved is up to God Almighty alone. When He returns is up to God Almighty alone.
Neither Camping nor Warden have any say in the matter, as much as they would like to believe otherwise.
What presumption.
Report Post »Country
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 9:31amStuck_in_CA, Where do you get, May through September, the reign of the antichrist? The reign of Satan will be 5 months, Rev 9:10. The real Christ will come during the real harvest time which is May thru Sept.
Report Post »mdlwoods
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 9:38amThank you JGP! No man knoweth the day or hour… NO MAN, not even Harold Camping! I just can’t quite understand people who choose to pick and choose the parts of the Bible that suit them at the moment, but choose to ignore other parts that don’t quite fit their agenda! Kinda reminds me of the United States Government!!! But I really don’t understand how Camping could ignore such a verse that specifically says, no one knows except God!!
Report Post »TheBees
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 9:40amBut of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Matt. 24:36
Report Post »These people got what they wanted, publicity! Although we should live our lives like He ccould come back in the next 5 minutes!
Reagan/DeMint.deciple
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:08amGood, I cant take this place anymore anyway…
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {cat folk art}
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:32amThe bible is clear… “None, save for the Father, knows when the return of the Son of Man shall be.”
Even Christ himself does not know the time, nor will we also. The season will be evident by events and signs mentioned across the bible; the exact time, nope.
Report Post »Kpax
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:45amLet’s separate fact from fiction. First of all, no one knows the exact time or the date. Jesus said He didn’t know the time or date and He was the Son of God. Anyone who believes this is playing with fire. It’s like telling a drunk that if he does not give up drinking before May 20th, 2011 he will destroy his liver and die on May 21th. If May 21th comes and goes and he does not die he will start drinking again on May 22nd. Maybe he will die sometime in April. Do yourself a favor and live your life as if the end, for you, can come at anytime.
Report Post »White Devil
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 10:54amThis guy may be a nut, but God’s word does say “you will know when it is near…even at the door” Mark 13:29. That sounds like we will know when it’s near…even at the door. Take God‘s word at face value and don’t make it harder than it has to be. And also like a woman in labor, you can see when it’s near by the signs. I‘ve found that Christians run from questions about the second coming as if they don’t want to be bothered studying it. They hide behind scripture that makes them feel good like “no man knows the day or the hour, but then ignore Mark 13:29.
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 11:05amone big argument is the free will ./vs pre ordained life. If you believe God gave us free will, then you can not believe that there is a pre ordained outcome.
ShineTheLightBrighter
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 11:10amSimply amazing how gullible some of us are. If it’s not a ponzi scheme it’s the end of the world. Everyone seems to be looking for the quick easy fix. Remember Satan’s most effective tool is to throw some truth in with his lies. For example there is truth to the statement “all roads lead to God” only problem is, all but one are for judgment and eternal death. Only one road leads past God to salvation and eternal life, which is Christ.
Test everything and keep what is true.
Report Post »knotaclu
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 11:22am@ shinethelightbrighter…..NICE POST….I like that, thanks….
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 11:22amNot Again!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Kpax
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 11:27amIt‘s one thing to say the end is near and it’s another thing to predict the exact date. Did you even bother to look at their web site? They also claim God will destroy the earth on Oct. 21th, 2011. They completely ignore the Book of Revelations, the Seven Year Tribulation Period, and the 1000 years reign of Christ on earth. These people are phonies.
Tammy Garner
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 11:31amThe Holy Bible tells us that “NO man knoweth” the day of the Lord’s triumphant return. Do not be deceived by people or groups who tell you differently. Watch and be ready – that is what we have been told. Remember the parable of the Ten Virgins and the lamps of oil – the bridegroom is Christ and you won’t know he is coming until you hear/see him come.
P.S. Glenn Beck has NOTHING to do with these claims so JGEEZY you need to know what you are talking about before throwing innuendos around.
Report Post »terridear1
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 12:15pmI can;t stand these types of people. They give Christians a bad name. If fact the Bible says “No man knows” the time or season of the end of this world and the creation of a new one. So when people like these or organizations like these give a date, the date comes and goes and they look like fools. God Knows and as far as I can conclude this lady doesn’t have a special estoteric connection to know, God does not work contrary to his word.
Report Post »Major Infidel
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 12:32pmNot another “end of the worlder”.
I’m still waiting for the last 30 or 40 times that Christ was supposed to flush this giant toilet. If only we were to be so lucky.
Stop flattering yourselves, no one is coming to right the wrongs of the world. It’s up to us to fix our problems. We just need to pull our heads out of our asses and do it already. We know what must be done to save ourselves. Lets do it already.
Kpax
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 12:36pmI just found out Harold Camping made these predictions before back in 1994. Good Grief!
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 1:03pmif you read man‘s history with organized religion and trying to pick the date of Christ’s second coming…it has been tried many many times…like a lot of commentors have stated as well as God’s word…no man knoweth….
Report Post »jbl8199
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 1:03pmOk, they want me to search the scriptures myself. Sorry, I know it’s a little long but this is Matthew chapter 24 which relates to this very subject. Pay close attention to verse 36.
1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to [him] for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what [shall be] the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all [these things] must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these [are] the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer [is] nigh:
33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, [even] at the doors.
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two [women shall be] grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed [is] that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite [his] fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for [him], and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint [him] his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Stuck_in_CA
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 1:06pm@Country
I understand what you’re saying. In Mark 13:18-27, it says “And pray that your flight be not in the winter”…
Yet in Rev 9, the time of the Locust (army) is May – Sept, the time of torment.
Opinions may vary, but I think we can agree on e few things:
(1) The false one will come first. 2 Thes 2
(2) We will ALL (inclusive) be changed at the Last Trump — the second coming of Christ. 1 Cor 15:52
In other words, if we are still in our fleshly bodies, and they say “Lo, here is Christ; or, lo,he is there; believe him not:” Mark 13:21.
God Bless you, Country!
The Libertarian Atheist
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 1:08pmWait a minute… It’s SUPERMAN that is coming back… wait… no.. its Peter Pan. and the easter bunny… yea thats it.. wait, that was last year.. I have it.. Its Frankenstein and his sidekick Santa Claus that is returning. so you better be nice, play a violin, like to eat hard boiled eggs, and really like blue spandex… cause … oh never mind. lets go with the Jewish Zombie myth… its just easier, and I hate hard boiled eggs.
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 1:26pmLoose Christian Movement?
Strippers for Jesus?
Report Post »Godseyesareonthem
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 1:48pmone simple test: If you are still in the flesh body it ain’t Jesus. Set yourself, stand still and see the salvation of the LORD.
Report Post »UPSETVET
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 1:54pmI’ve been a Christian for 40 years and a Baptist minister ( missionary ) for 37 years and have spent thouands of hours studying the Bible. Where in the Holy Scriptures ( Bible ) does it say the world will end on May 21, 2011 ? Please give me the Book, Chapter and Verse, because IF it‘s true I have a few loose ends I need to tie up and I haven’t much time.
Jesus said that no man knows the time (date) that the end of the world will come ( Mark 13:31-32 ). Those that boldly predict a date for the end of time are ignorant of the Holy Scriptures. A Christian’s responsibility is to EVANGELIZE and not to THEORIZE the date or time of the end of the world. Date predictors are wrong and shouldn’t be given a second thought. What will these idiots say on May 22, 2011 if their theory is proven to be wrong ? Could the end of time be on May 21, 2011. ? Sure, but it could also be on July 1, 2250. Your GUESS is as good as mine.
Polwatcher
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 2:04pmThey are not killing their kids, blowing up churches, suicide bombing crowds, or any other violent thing. So if they believe what they believe, so what.
TruthLover
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 2:43pmWe can know – but there are too many prophecies yet unfulfilled. Jesus tells us the exact order and timing of things in Matthew 24, and refers to the last few verses in Daniel. With only that little bit of Scripture reading, we can be certain that we will know what to expect and when, but also that the event that will kick off the finite timeline has not yet occurred. Until then – we won’t know.
Until the Temple is rebuilt, until the daily sacrifice is reinstated, until the antichrist is revealed and breaks his promise with Israel – until those things are done, there is time, and there is no certainty about any dates. Since these things have not yet come to pass, there seems to be no way Christ will return for at least 4 more years, likely even longer.
Keep watching Israel – it’s all about that Temple.
@leftfighter
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 2:58pm@ JGP
“But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.” and, well, except for Harold Camping. I don’t think so. The Bible says “no man knows”, Harold says “this man knows”. Well, which one is wrong, the Bible or the man?”
EXACTLY! Sad part is, this is just the most recent example of failed rapute predictions. Similar predictions actually started the Seventh-Day Adventists, Mormons (and their offshoot, the Branch Davidians), Jehovahs Witnesses, and a few others that escape me at the moment. Here’s a list I found that covers several others:
http://carm.org/religious-movements/-about-cults/list-cults-and-non-christian-groups
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Posted on January 3, 2011 at 3:23pmYes, there WILL come a time of GREATEST distress the world has EVER seen or ever WILL see. But …
“And Jesus answered and said to them: ‘Take heed that no one deceives you. … And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
” ‘For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of sorrows.
” ‘… And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.’ ” -Mat 24:4-14, Holy Bible
sheriff BART: “Just give me 24 hours to come up with a brilliant idea to save our town. Just 24 hours, that’s all I ask.”
Report Post »TOWNS PEOPLE: “NO!”
sheriff BART: “You’d do it for Randolph Scott.”
TOWNS PEOPLE [Reverently]: “Randolph Scott …”
HEAVENLY CHOIR: “RANDOLPH SCOTT!”
OLSON JOHNSON [steps forward]: “Okay.”
-Blazing Saddles
Jack44Rhodes
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 3:44pmProphecies come and prophecies go, and when they fail, they who tell lies merely make feeble excuses and recalculate tell more lies, and no one lays it to thought that they had been duped “again.” When are people going to wise up? Not in the near future, I am sure…
The Rapture?
The Rapture Question: http://godfire.net/Rapture.html
Matthew 24 reconsidered.
Report Post »http://www.godfire.net/beginning_of_the_end4.html
http://www.godfire.net/beginning_of_the_end5.html
Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 3:47pmThis sounds like a complete contradiction of God.
Report Post »He remembers ALL his covenants. It is more likely that his return would be on the Feast of Trumpets. In the fall. In fact, is she referring to Pentecost?
At the sound of the trumpet……………
If christians new anything about Judaism they wouldn’t make such fools of them/ourselves.
burrbunch
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 4:11pmThe Tribulation is broken into two segments equally 7 years, God is ever merciful trying to grab the attention of man and His chosen people. If you read the bible and consider that God does things in 7′s (as in the week is 7 days, God created the Universe in 6 days and rested on the 7th, etc). There was 4 thousand years of mankind before Jesus was born, then Jesus lived for approx. 33 years, therefore the Rapture will occur about 2033 minus 7 years, which places us somewhere in about 2025 for the rapture. This would pan out well, because God’s plan has to move forward to allow Satan the keys to Earth for a brief 7 year period. During this time we will no longer be in the time of Grace (as we are know). Love in Christ, consider that the Devil – the great deciever places these activities into our midst to cause belief in God to become less and less “popular”, as time moves forward there will be a time when if you say you are a Christian you are guaranteeing your own death.
Report Post »Tiny2bit
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 4:18pmBeckisnuts said: “What absolute rubbish. There’s nothing else left to say on this story.”
Except agree with you on that point, and I do.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 4:27pmMay 22nd is my 12th anniversary. If I‘m still here I’ll be celebrating! hahah
Report Post »If not, I’ll be celebrating too!
Either way I’m a winner.
But this guy is a yoohoo. There is no way you could convince me this guy is for real. The bible says “No man knows the hour, not even the angels”. This guy is either very deceived or a false prophet or both.
ilovethiscountry
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 4:35pmI know the day the world will not end, May 21, 2011. Only the Father knows the day, that is God the Father. So if they are certain that is the day, it isn’t.
Report Post »S G Applebee
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 4:49pmAllow me to introduce you to this little thing called REALITY. Christians have been talking “end times” since the beginning of their religion. In fact, Jesus himself was clamoring about the coming “end time” IN HIS OWN GENERATION. HE was wrong, and so was EVERY SINGLE ONE of his followers who made the same prediction.
Report Post »If the end time does come, it will be because religious fanatics of all types will cause it to happen through a self-righteous, self-fulfiling prophecy.
avenger
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 4:49pmnot gonna happen….angels day off…these fruit cakes have been predicting this crap since ad 100…
Report Post »memoriesman
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 5:03pmWhy is this nonsense on Blaze. This is nothing but pure speculation. Let’s try to keep to real news!!!
Report Post »Edward Tipler
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 5:43pmI about fell off my chair to see Harold Camping here in this article… WELL, from what I was told by a station manager of his former partner, business partner that is, Jack French, of KILA Christian Radio in Las Vegas, that Harold and Jesus were both carpenters in their early years, before they started their ministries. According to this source, when KILA was getting started in the early 70s, Jack French (a really good guy and deeply committed Christian) needed someone to build the studios and help with the hardware of the struggling station. Along came Harold Camping, who eventually asked for a program slot to do a Bible study. However, he kept expanding his time on the air, and when he started getting too far afield of the traditional Christian message, he parted company with KILA and started Family Stations. There is a transmitter local to me that carries Family Stations and it broadcasts, in my opinion, so much non-Biblical junk that you would think it was a Jehovah Witness station. Note that both JWs and Camping have made End of the World date predictions before. Personally, in my opinion, I would not waste the electricity to run a radio listening to Harold Camping or Family Stations. Study Isaiah and Revelation on your own rather than listening to cranks making wild predictions.
Report Post »watchmany2k
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 6:31pmLOL
Which is more important to know ?
That the world will end.
Or
that you will end in the world.
Get yourself right, and the date doesn’t matter..
Now, go Live your lives…
One thing is for sure, it won’t happen until the full number of Christian Martyrs is filled.
Report Post »At the rate they are dying in Islamic countries, we sure are getting closer.
Pray that it doesn’t happen in Winter.
tower7femacamp
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:08pmJesus said none shall know the day not even the son of Man
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:10pmI like the way they wove 33.3 into the story
Report Post »justwondering
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 9:52pmStuck_in_ca good word. Pocono to be clear, may-September is the shortened time: 5 1/2 months he will be defacto. Have to wonder how they explain the son of perdition & that he must be revealed first.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 12:11amHe’s coming back on a Saturday, I don’t think so, the next day is church, also a week before Memorial day, bad timing, ending the world before the sales, bad for the economy. I would think he postpones it a week, talk the long weekend, hit the sales, then, fire and brimstone. Plus, I do believe worldwide, a million people a day do die, but millions are born. Festivus for the rest of us.
Report Post »Kalish
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 2:03amHere we go again, people getting their theology from the left behind movies !
Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
That should settle it
Report Post »Kalish
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 2:05amThey must have gottent their theology from the left behind movies
Matthew 24:36
But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
That should settle it
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 4:39amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Qqg_PzUIY&feature=related
It’s pretty amazing how this stuff is happening.
Report Post »robertdjohnson
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 5:27amI am not a Bible Scholar but I have read the word several times from cover to cover and I see no indication of a date in which the Lord will return. In fact, my Bible teaches the opposite; that no man knows the day or hour of his coming. Please explain……….Confused.
Report Post »Livingproof
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 7:59amI’m with White Devil on this one. I don’t have much confidence in Harold Camping…but in addition to Mark 13:29…while speaking specifically in 1st Thessalonians 5:2 about the day of the Lord coming as a “thief in the night”…the Lord goes on to say in 1Thess. 5:4 that, “But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.” Does this imply that followers of Christ (ye Brethren) will have some kind of warning that the day of the Lord’s return would NOT overtake them as a thief. Will they have some forewarning? This and other passages seem to indicate just that. Whatever the timing of Christ’s return…most people I know have a “gut feeling” that it’s close at hand. I think more folks need to stop being arm-chair bible scholars and start taking stock of their lives and ask themselves, “what will God do with me and all of my sins against a holy and just God?”
Report Post »Curioso
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 8:45amLets wait and see my money would be on the return being a no show. Things have not gotten bad enough yet as in global all out war and even then there might not be a return. The monks in Tibet have a doomsday clock and I think it still has about 2 billion years to go on it.
Report Post »jackrorabbit
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 9:46amMatthew 24
” 36“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. 37“For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah. 38“For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be. 40“Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left. 41“Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left.
Be Ready for His Coming
42“Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming. 43“But be sure of this, that if the head of the house had known at what time of the night the thief was coming, he would have been on the alert and would not have allowed his house to be broken into. 44“For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will. “
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 9:55am@Richio
1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
Prevent #5348 phthano; precede. They’re already with Him.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Spirit #7306 ruwach = to blow i.e. breathe
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Many people use this verse to support the “Rapture” theory. Clouds #3509 nephos, is the same word used by Paul in Hebrews 12:1 ‘Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us.’ Cloud = Throng.
Air #109 aer; to breath unconsciously, i.e. respire or #5594 psucho to breathe (voluntarily but gently). It is not air #3772 ouranos; heaven, sky. We’ll meet The Lord in our Spiritual bodies –
Not in the flesh. Not in the sky.
1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall all be changed.
Report Post »The Lord comes at the seventh trump, seventh seal, seventh vial. Seven, in Biblical numerics is Spiritual completeness.
Grace Alone
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 10:34amWe miss the whole point about the coming of Christ. Certainly, the date is not for us to know. Too much in the Bible tells us as much. BUT what is the point then?
We are responsible for the time we are here on this earth.
Acts 1:4-9
4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And he said unto them, “It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.”
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
The disciples were basically like many folks today, interested in the time when he would come back and whether or not God was going to set up His kingdom and get rid of the oppressive government that they faced. Jesus said “It’s none of your business, I’ve given you the power and authority through the Spirit of God to live and occupy until the Father’s time for us is done.
Quit worrying about time Mr. Camping, and get about the Father’s occupation here and now.
Report Post »BlueknightUSA
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 11:35amI think this is the first time I have ever agreed with BECKISNUTS…will wonders never cease…
Report Post »CD2
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 1:33pmWhat’s sad about this is that, some will not read the bible for themselves and others who are looking for a reason to discount the inerrancy and infallibility of Scripture, will use this as a platform to suggest skepticism of Christianity and its doctrines. The saints really need to pray.
Report Post »Vinval
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 1:47pmto beckisnuts: What is rubbish to you is gospel to others. What gives you the right to percieve their beliefs to be rubbish? We all need to be respectful of others beliefs and still maintain our own core beliefs. I happen to believe that the Anti-Christ will come prior to Christ, but only I can say what I believe.
Report Post »FED-UP-AND-READY-TO-TAKE-ACTION
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 1:55pmOn may 22nd I wonder how this young lady is going to feel as well all the others who think JESUS is coming back may 21st. Jesus “IS” come already. He has done all that is needed already. He has given us the spirit that we may live through him. He has already done all that man needs. I know this may be a shock to some but this teaching of him coming again is a new teaching that was started in the early 1800′s. Sorry folks but this is the truth. Let him who has an ear hear.JESUS IS HERE NOW in his people.
codefool
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 1:57pmObviously no man shall know the day nor the hour is as hard to understand as “Congress shall make no law” or “the right of the people to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed”…
It’s a shame too, she looks like a cute girl, too bad she’s coo coo for cocoa puffs.
>> Ser Scot
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>> “No man shall know the date and time”. How hard is that to understand?
Michael8it
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 2:04pmHarold Camping is the same heretic that says the ‘church age’ is over. First of all, scripture does not call it the church age, but rather, the times of the gentiles.
Second, we cannot know the day or hour, as some have already pointed out. No numbering system of any kind can be applied to our dates because…… (wait for it) our calendar is wrong! This is not really 01/05/2011. It is simply the number we have accepted as the date. Our current calendar was based on when August Caesar (I think it was Augustus) moved from one location to another. Several years ago, archeological was found that confirmed that the day we thought this took place was off by 4 years. So we don’t really know what the date is.
Second, the solar year has not always been 365.24 days. In the original creation, it was 360 days, and was still 360 days after the flood. All of the major ancient calendars confirm this. In the 8th centurcy BC, The Babylonians and other changed from 360 day solar year to 365, and then later added some days to try to correct for the ¼ day they had been missing. Our calendar has been adjusted several times since. The Hebrews adjusted their calendar in the 7th century BC. We don’t know what day this change happened, we only know it was in Hezekiah’s time. It will also change back: In Revelation we are given a clear record that the solar year is 360 days again, not 365.24. No one knows when that will happen.
Last, when Christ does return (and He will), He first comes for His Saints, then comes back 7 years later in Judgment. The world as a whole will never notice the first event. When that happens, the Jews have their temple built again have returned to the Levitical Blood sacrifice. They do not have a Temple, and unless God quite literally intervenes, they will not have it built buy 05/12/2011 either. Islam controls the temple mount, not Israel. Israel needs control of the temple mount, and that has not happened yet either.
So, all of the pieces are not yet in place, although they are moving quite rapidly in that direction. Second, no one really knows what the date is today, we just ascribed and number to it and everyone agreed on it. It is foolish and quite literally impossible, to try and put a date on the Lord’s return. Camping is a fool. A gentle fool, but a fool nonetheless.
Report Post »RaptureReady_004
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 5:54pmI believe in the Rapture. But I base it on what the Bible says. And from scripture ‘ Matthew 24:32-35 it says “Now learn this parable from the fig tree. ( the fig tree is Israel) When it’s branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. So you also , when you see all these things , know that it is near, at the doors! Assuredly, I say to you, that this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. ” So how long is a generation?? It tells you in Psalm 90:10, “The days of our lives are seventy years”; Then I thought, how old is Israel now? Well, it bacame a nation in May 14,1948. And so when will it be 70 yrs old? The year of 2018. But you must remember there are 7 yrs of Tribulation. I deduct 7 yrs from 2018, because Christ will be Rapturing His Bride, and His wrath will not be poured onto the earth until His Bride is removed. And that is where you get the Year 2011. However, I don’t agree with this guys date. I believe it will be in Sept. Around Rosh Hoshanna. It is a Jewish 2 day event. I think the biggest obstacle is, are you a Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib, or Post-Trib. In 1st Thessalonians 1:10 it says .. “and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.” See? Pre-Trib. Also, dress rehersal- Lot, Abrahams nephew was in Sodom and Gomorah with his family. And the LORD didn’t destoy it UNTIL His angels got them out of the city first. Then HIS wrath came down. It’s just my view. And I hope you can think on it. God Bless. And keep Looking Up. 1 Thess. 4:17-18 “Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words. “
Report Post »Petire
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 6:58pmIt’s people like this that make Christians look like idiots and make it harder to spread the truth of the gospel to the lost…
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 4, 2011 at 7:20pmBeckIsNuts
Posted on January 3, 2011 at 7:50am
What absolute rubbish. There’s nothing else left to say on this story.
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Oh yes there is >>> “BeckIsNuts is a jerk.” That should do it.
Report Post »Whiplash88
Posted on January 6, 2011 at 6:41pmSo… did these people forget to read Matthew 24:36 – “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.” ??
Report Post »copycat042
Posted on January 7, 2011 at 7:51am4 words: Thief in the night.
Report Post »ben_g88ia
Posted on January 12, 2011 at 6:34pm@beckisnuts
this one time i agree with you…..the bible says “the end will come when man least expects it.” meaning no ones guess of end will be right. only God knows the exact day, not even Jesus knows when he’ll return. the only thing we have to go by is the pattern in the old testament but you have to kinda look for it.
a nation is born –> there’s good and bad leaders –> there’s a split in the nation –> prophets come –> one world language –> one world government –> God comes
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