LSU Student Reportedly Plans to Burn American Flag on Campus
- Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:35am by
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A student at Louisiana State University (LSU) is planning on burning an American flag on campus today, the schools student government president said. And since he followed the proper university procedure to stage his protest, the event will not face any official pushback. But that doesn‘t mean the act won’t face patriotic counter-demonstrations. It will.
According to the student newspaper The Reveille, the pyro protest by communication studies graduate student Benjamin Haas is slated for 1 pm ET today.
That’s according to Cody Wells, student government president. “We’re going to respect his First Amendment right to burn our American flag,” he told the Reveille.
But Haas isn’t the only one who is planning a protest. Wells said he and others will also be holding their own “peaceful assembly in response to recent flag burnings.“ The reason for the plural ”burnings” comes after a student was arrested last week for cutting down and burning the American flag flying over the university’s war memorial.
Wells’s event will include the Pledge of Allegiance as well as the National Anthem. He tells the student paper tht he has a trumpet player lined up for the ceremony and also hopes to have cadets present.
Just as Haas will be exercising his right to burn the flag, Wells said, he and others will “exercise our own First Amendment rights”
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Comments (375)
ChiefGeorge
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:02amSome people have posted some really stupid and dangerous comments. If you incite or intimate some kind of violence then you are part of the problem. Knock it off!
Report Post »siebegorman
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:17amSome people have posted stupid, dangerous comments, please read your own Sir.
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:34amAnd now Siebegorman will tell us what exactly was stupid or dangerous about Cheifgeorge’s comment!
3, 2, 1 GO GO!
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:36am@chiefgeorge, we are the ones who must stop their tunneling out of this great country { by the way,she is still a great country sir.} they haven’t won yet, we can concrete in all their tunnels then they will be history, we can and will turn this around, but not with giving in every time they pull some stupid trick, you must stand up and fight back ,either with ,knowledge,or fist,but you must not let them continue to erode this country with crap like this . so either you are part of the problem or you are part of the solution. please find a group are groups who believe in what you believe in and start taken back our country. one man can’t do it him self, but as a large group we can .
Report Post »badlands
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 1:54pmI got your back. there are a great many posts that have gone on that are ignorant – if you don’t say something then how can you tell your friends about this stuff – it’s important – stand up. I’m sorry for not doing it sooner – i just signed up yesterday – bad behavior isn‘t political it’s a value judgement. if your behaving badly – your values are bad!! nobody said you have to be sweetness and candy – god knows thats not me – but violence – racism – hate! these can’t be tollerated – and i hope people point it out when i do it. having said that – i’m not appologizing about the comment about the guy jumping off the building – that was just funny!
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:00amJust one more brick being pulled out of the foundation!
Atleast there are some who will stand and take notice and push back a little. They only burn the flag because they know it gets a reaction and mucho attention. We should take that off the table because in reality they have been burning the flag through hate speech directed against this country for years and demonstrations meant to stir anti American sentiments.
This country has given so much to each of us. I really don’t know what these people are going to do when they have finally burnt it to the ground. Well….yea, I actually do know what they will do, they will then look for blood when they can’t enjoy the finer things of life as they currently are used to…someone must pay, someone must be responsible but they will not look in the mirror. It is them! Not us who are tunneling out the foundations of this once great country. The worse it gets the more there needs to be scape goats.
Get ready people!
These people may look like you and me but they are ravenous wolves.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:59amtoo bad that obama-commie can’t fall into his fire, but wouldn’t it be great if Patriot Guard groups came and surrounded him with THEIR proudly flying flags..
Report Post »Fina Biscotti
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:25pmThis incident is getting more attention on The Blaze than in Louisiana.
A PATRIOT ALERT is necessary!!!!!
Report Post »ColoradoMaverick
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:59amHow about charging him with arson, or polluting the air. They should have a counter protest and burn the Koran. That should be protected, right? Where to we draw the line with “freedom of speech”. Can we burn a cross now?
Report Post »packrbackr
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:29amCant burn the Koran, it will insight the Muslems and the Prsident, Can’t burn a cross will insight some African Americans.
But go ahead and burn the flag, the hell with The Patriotic Americans
WHAT BULL #%&^
Report Post »mossbrain
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:40pmCorrect me if I’m wrong, but it is perfectly legal to burn the Koran. The burning cross I hadn’t thought about. Is that illegal? If it is illegal then I switch my opinion and say burning the flag should be illegal.
Report Post »meamerican
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 2:32pmThis is sickening, these same people would be up in arms if you said you were to burn the Koran but if you want to burn the symbol of America they are all for it.
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:56am“Everything is permissible”—but not everything is beneficial. “Everything is permissible”—but not everything is constructive. Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others. 1 Corinthians 10:23-24 This young man apparently cares nothing of his fellow Americans.
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:58amThe same as his so-called leader, BHO
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:07amSo true.
Report Post »TrueAmerican66
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:54amAnd he’s probably on Government assistance………Hates America But LOVES the (so called) Free money (or as one lady said “Obama Cash”) he gets from Her. What a Schmuck.
Report Post »Bullcop34
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:52amI really hope that someone snatches the flag from this little puke before he lights it.. This little dope better remember that he is not in Wisconnsin or California, patriotism runs deeper in the blood of southerners and I hope to God that that has not changed in my home state. Had I heard about this sooner, I would make the drive from Shreveport and taken it from him myself then dare him to try and light it….that is my 1st Ammendment freedom of speech!
Report Post »Dougral
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:51amHe has a Constitutional right to express himself even if most people find it offensive. That is one big thing that separates America from most other countries on Earth. People are free, though, to tell him what they think, defriend him and socially ostracize him. Offensive speech can have consequences.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:55amKind of like HATE speech? Who decides what’s OFFENSIVE? I find burning MY flag offensive. MAKE HIM AN OUTCAST and maybe he’ll go to another country that would NOT allow this, if he hates the USA so much. No one is making him stay!
Report Post »Bullcop34
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:56amLSU sanctioned event=no more of my money for LSU games, shirts, or anything else LSU. Since when in the hell did LSU become Berkley!
Report Post »mossbrain
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:37pmSo right, many here as just like the Muslims angry over caricatures of Muhammad. Oh but this is different they think. No it’s not different. Go over there and burn images of Muhammad if you don’t like flag burning.
Report Post »Lee in Nevada
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:50amI hope someone pulls a “Rick Monday” move and screws up the protest!
Report Post »Vickie Dhaene
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:48amIf these people hate the U.S.A. so much that they would burn Our flag., why don’t they just move to some other country and live their lives. These people act like spoiled little brats. Parents should be ashamed.
Report Post »Untameable-kate
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 1:00pmAgreed. I fly my flag in my backyard so every time I look out there I see our flag and get that swell of pride. I used to hang it in front but I can’t see it out there and sometimes I forget to bring it in at night. My son always makes sure if he is bringing in the flag in the evening it doesn’t touch the ground. It is never left out in the rain, or disrespected in any way, it really chaps my azz when these spoiled brats act like animals with our flag.
Report Post »eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:46amTerrorist.
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:44amAren’t you so cute. Aren’t you so cutting edge. We support your right, and we too have a right to free speech (and PC it is not, nor does it have to be) FUPOS.
PS…I’m puking on a photo of BHO this afternoon, then burning it. Good luck with finals little one, you’re going to need it.
Report Post »TEIN
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:43amWhy is this not a hate crime?? Why is this not categorized as an act to incite? Can a flag from Mexico be burned at the same time, a Quran?? It is an expression alright, but if I put that expression down in my post it would be deleted…
Report Post »txn4justice
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:52amYou are right Tein
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:43amWell, I prefer to look at this as good — it stirs people up – makes them think and cause these counter protests, which is good & hopefully will promote more patriotism.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:41amHey kid, the consequences won’t be good for you. Actions have reactions. You might wanna reconsider. What an idiot.
Report Post »starman70
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:52amIn today’s liberal society, he will probably land a high paying job in Washington. I’m sure that the POTUS can use him as a czar.
Report Post »True American66
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:58amMaybe they’ll give him a job on MSNBC…..sit him next to Larry O.
Report Post »Jim in Houston
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:55amNah, he’ll be invited to perform at the White House for the anti-American trash currently (and temporarily) residing there.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:03pmI am sure he will be eventually be teaching our children probably be graduating with a liberal arts degree. this kid needs some public humiliation. just a reminder of the spare the rod spoil the child
Report Post »CrimsonTider
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:41amYep that’s the LSU I went too. Sure go ahead burn that flag while I make sure you little stupid stunt gives me maximium exposure for my patriotic plan. You’re playing right into my hands. Humor and speaking up will help us best to fight senseless evil.
Report Post »True American66
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:41amThank God for students like Cody Wells. He must have had great, hard-working, American parents. We are with you Cody, show that treasonist idiot what a REAL American looks like!
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:29am@american66, i would hope he will show him what boot up his communist ,koolade drinking anti American butt feels like followed by a hard right hook.
Report Post »HairRazor
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 10:49pmcommon.. I believe the right hook then the boot would be correct sequence.
Report Post »dwntwnbrowne
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:41amI love how this is somehow his “First Amendment” right…so overused that I really think people forgot what it even means anymore
Report Post »salvawhoray
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:40amrap him and his friends in the flag then burn it.
Report Post »I’ll hate to see the flag burn, but seeing the American haters burn would make me feel better.
Nathan-H
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:39amApparently this student had no real guidence from Adults when growing up, and now in college… well apparently the faculty isnt grown up either. Have some class people. Stop taking for granted living in the best place in the world. The USA. Good thing I am not down there.. I would kick his a s s as soon as he attempted it.
Report Post »concealled9mms
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:12amyea and eric holder would arrest you can you imagine
Report Post »ourrightsourfreedom
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:39amThis is what makes me so piss off..While a lot of us fought for this great country under this great flag..here a college with a lunatic wants to burn the U.S flag. I wish he’s in front of me coz I will burn him til ashes!
Report Post »concealled9mms
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:11amwhats scary is obamma would appoint a fool like this to be a judge someday think about it
Report Post »texrubarts
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:12amIf this weirdo do NOT like the United States let’s ship him off to Iran!! Let’s see how he does there!!!
Report Post »Sola Scriptura
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:39amSomeone should tell this Haas kid to go study instead of defacing America. Can you say liberal?
Report Post »concealled9mms
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:09amsomeone should tell this fool that the guy he voted for is a war monger
Report Post »texasfarmer
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:39amWrap yourself in the flag first.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:45am@texasfarmer, i will supply the fuel and matches. i would hope some of those coon asses will take him into the swamps and feed him to the alligators and turtles.
Report Post »Restored One
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:46amI agree with that.
Report Post »starman70
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:49amAMEN!!!! What a plan! Yes, he has the right to express himself and we have the right to express our opinions too.
Report Post »REPUBLIC1803
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:21amHey Texas, instead of coming out on the students here at LSU, why not drive over and stand with with these patriotic students who are outraged at this garbage. We will talk about the alligators when you get here.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:46pm@STARMAN70 So you’re equating his right to oppose the government to you having the right to take a life of another individual who did not commit a crime, much less a crime that deserves capital punishment?
And you consider yourself his better?
Report Post »AmericanBiker
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 5:09pmAs I’ve said many times before people would rather live in their own misery than seek their own happiness. If you don’t like it when the AMERICAN flag is burned change the amendment and don’t allow American flag burning. Then when some nit wit burns the flag he/she goes to a prison for political prisoners. Oh yes a prison just for them so they can’t pollute the minds of others. It could be built at the bottom of a mine pit and when it’s full it could be filled in with raw sewage and dirt. Then a new one built on top and when again it’s full…It could be called the S#*t pit and put a plaque there that tells who and why they’re planted there. Keep going til all the holes are filled with S#*t for brains people and 100s of years down the line when they find the bodies they can say that we truly loved AMERICA !!
Report Post »siebegorman
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:37amI’d like to announce, I will be burning an LSU student today in Houston, at I-10 and the Tollway, aound 4pm.
Stupid kid, you sir are a TWIT.
Report Post »texasfarmer
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:42amSee you at 4:00
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:43aml- loser
Report Post »s-stupid
u- unamerican
jeffyfreezone
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:06amFlag burning scheduled for 1:00, the Haas @ss whuppin scheduled for 1:15!
Report Post »POIPNE
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:21amI’ll loan you a lighter if you need one or even some of my $4 a gallon gas!
Report Post »hechafteth
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:24amWill he/she be appropriately swaddled in the American Flag?
Report Post »Jim in Houston
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:48amI’ll bring the match.
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:49amProof, college doesn’t necessarily make for a smart student. This twit needs to move where he is appreciated for his UN-American activities, not here. LSU, take care of this clown and send him to his friends in Iran.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:02pmOur HEROES are paying with their lives to keep this flag flying freely up high in the sky & yet some low life jerks burn down this same flag .
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:44pmI honestly believe the heroes are dying to preserve our freedoms not for a piece of cloth you can buy at wally world for $19.95.
Plus tax of course.
Report Post »lynnissmart
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 3:18pmGood idea!
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 3:59pmAMERICAN SOLDIER (SEPARATED)
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:44pm
I honestly believe the heroes are dying to preserve our freedoms not for a piece of cloth you can buy at wally world for $19.95.
Plus tax of course.
Report Post »_____________________________
Well for me it represents more than a “piece of cloth you can buy at wally world for $19.95.”
& I was talking about our freedom when I said “to keep this flag flying freely up high in the sky”
bandi9
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:36amyes, “we will respect his right, as we beat the crap out of him.”
Report Post »D0ntTread0nMe
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:42amYou have the right to express yourself, but your responsibility is to your country! Some people just don’t get it!
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smithclar3nc3
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:44amI’m with you on that scooby, The people of the area need to rise up and cut the head off that snake by beating the crap out of all who burn the flag. And there’s needs to be a public record of all those who attend this event and support it.
Report Post »Obama Bin Lying
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:45amThis is the Liberal mentality. One of their own destroys a memorial to those who have fallen, gets arrested, and they protest by burning a flag.
Liberalism is a mental disorder
Report Post »El Paco
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:48amWhere’s Rick Monday when you need him.
Report Post »Cobra Blue
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:48am“Courage is both a duty of man and a gift of God. We should sharply reprove ourselves for all disheartening timidity. . . . We must be heroic, or we must perish.”
…a duty. Think about that. It is our duty as citizens to exercise courage in the face of evil when it presents itself. Instead, what do we do…we try to delegate our INDIVIDUAL responsibility to someone else i.e. a politician, a lawyer, etc. OR we just compromise on principle and/or conviction. Compromising with evil only gets us in trouble. Just for reference. The Garden of Eden points the way on that. And look what it got man-kind. Enmity with GOD and a fallen world that will not end until the LORD comes again.
What is glaringly obvious to me is that judgement is inevitable for our nation if for no other reason that abdicating our responsibilities as citizens living in a free nation. Our country was not given the GIFT of freedom, it was earned through the personal sacrifice of many. And to think we get to keep it without exercising ANY measure of courage WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY ARISES is incredibly wrong thinking. We have to tend the culture. God commanded it. As it has been said…”the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”. And that is what we have done..NOTHING.
Where is the courageous spirit in our society today? I guess burning the American flag is the new definition. Better ger prepared. .
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:48amI say we go to the LSU campus and burn as much LSU crap as we can find.
Report Post »bassist237
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:53amPretty bold to do that in Louisiana of all places..
Report Post »jeffyfreezone
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:57amThis will NOT be well received by the other students, at least the ones from LA.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:58amThey need to just ignore this idiot. He just wants the attention. He will probably get his butt kicked afterwards at night.
Report Post »John 3:16
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:00amWhat a sniveling little coward. People who burn our flag are not real Americans they are traitors, Showing some mercy for the little jerk is hard, but with GOD all things are possible.
Report Post »the_zazzy
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:09amSome of them good ‘ol southern boys need to express their first amendment rights and open up a 55 gallon drum of whoop @$$ on this sorry SOB.
Report Post »Patrick in AZ
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:11amI wonder how the university would have reacted if his intention was to burn a Mexican flag
Report Post »Mannax
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:13amYou have the right to say what you wish. Just be prepared to accept the results of such things.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:20amWouldn’t it just be better to move to Cuba you PUKE?
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:26amI‘ll counter with burning a copy of the Qur’ran while munching on Pork Rind
Report Post »wtc101
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:29amTHE FLOOD IS COMING! How about this guy roll up his sleeves, pitch-in and fill some sand bags. Lord knows that would be more productive…or is he willing to accept the helplessness that preceded Katrina?
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:30amOk then, respect my first amendment rights and let me burn the following. A koran, russian flag, chinese flag, cuban flag, a flag from every islamic country, and a picture of every single imam.
Oh but that’s right, the firt amendment is only protected if you are on the left or it defaces AMERICA.
Report Post »papapatriot
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:32amHe has the right to burn the flag and we have the right to suspend all if any, federal or state grants he is collecting for his education. God Bless America.
Report Post »Zay Gezunt
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:32amVery democratic of you. Ever hear of First Ammendment rights?
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:34amI’m sick & tired of being sick & tired of putting up with people who think they have the RIGHT to burn our American Flag and other unpatriotic acts. Yes, we need rights, but not this kind. Respectable students at LSU, teach this idiot Ben Haas a lesson he won’t forget. Bet his parents are proud of him now. Hope no one wants to hire this jerk, oh, all the libs will send for his resume’
Report Post »revel222
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:35amWho cares…Attention seeker…Next, he’ll try to commit suicide and look for someone to save him in his last attention seeking moment.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:35amBenjamin Dumb Haas
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:36amI’m sick & tired of being sick & tired of putting up with people who think they have the RIGHT to burn our American Flag and other unpatriotic acts. Yes, we need rights, but not this kind. Respectable students at LSU, teach this idiot Ben Haas a lesson he won’t forget. Bet his parents are proud of him now.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:38amThey kind of seem like animals when they burn the flag, and it really isn’t the flag itself that is important, but that it shows they have no idea what it represents.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:45amSometimes I wonder if God’s next flood will be like that movie “The Happening.” The flood of Noah’s day God eliminated the earth of all the living, and those were those that were clean by the sevens. I wonder if this next time, God comes but isn’t the Lord of Hosts, but that God forces himself into those whom are dead inside, and it burns them up not being able to handle the light. Then they do as in “The Happening.”
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:45amLet him burn the flag – it’s just a piece of cloth, anyway.
Maybe somebody could toss a Koran on top of his fire for good measure.
Report Post »Jim in Houston
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:46amCouldn’t agree more. If he wants to burn the flag let the little cowardly SOB move to one of those third world sh#tholes where they get their kicks burning our flag.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:47amI think the real issue we need to confront is what exactly the mindset is of somebody that feels compelled to burn the American flag? Is it because of hate and envy of what the flag “once” represented by progressives and their ilk (not unlike the hate and envy radical Muslims have towards Americans, meaning progressives and Muslims share common goal; destroying America as it once stood)?
But, that aside, it is a free country; more for those that don’t subscribe to traditional American ideals.
Report Post »Jim in Houston
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:47amA Doctors Labor Is Not My Right: Maybe we could toss him and his koran on the fire. That way we could get rid of two pieces of trash at once.
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:53amGet a rope.
Report Post »Obama Snake Oil Co
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:53amAnd my Alma Mater will remember them on the football field as well. Of course, if the anti flag burners are the players, we will show some mercy….Of course, what these ******** are doing, proves they already took too many shots to the head….probably drinking the Osama; two shots and a splash of water….
Report Post »wigg
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:53amI wonder if he is getting a Pell Grant?
Report Post »If so, YOUR WELCOME!
biohazard23
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:56am@poverty.sucks
Benjamin Dumb Haas
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
LMAO!!!
@Patrick in AZ: you know that would never happen. The PC police would put a stop to it before the ink was dry on the application for the permit.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:59amDangit, you took the statement out of my mouth, they should respect his 1st amendment rights, and then summarily beat the dog pizzle out of him.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:01pmanother communist who hates America and the Constitution, some people have no sense whatsoever! the youth are being brainwashed, much like Pol Pot did to Cambodians, that went well didn’t it? Are we going to allow that to continue here? i sure hope not. liberalism is a disease.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:02pmI have had heated debates with fellow soldiers, almost to the point of it becoming a fist fight.
Here is my belief on this issue.The flag is a symbol of freedom. The freedom to be opposed to our government is part of that freedom. Otherwise, you‘d bread a totalitarian government that oppresses it’s people. Without this freedom to vocally, albeit vulgarly, oppose the government and its action, we would lose every other freedom we enjoy, eventually.
So which comes first? The SYMBOL of freedom or the actual freedom for which it represents?
Personally, I’d rather preserve the actual freedom. I oppose the government now, not just this administration but the overall concept of the current system of government. Should I not be allowed to voice my opposition in any means I deem necessary? Some would go as far as burning a flag while others would settle for demonstrations, rallies or petitions. If you give the government the ability to silence this form of expression against government, you open Pandora’s box. Is that what you want? For the sake of preserving your own sense of patriotism?
Burn the flag. I’ll burn it myself, personally, if it means that American’s can regain TRUE freedom again. I’ll defend the actual FREEDOM rather than just the symbol of it. Symbols fade or gets destroyed. The actual freedom itself is what’s important.
I didn’t sacrifice years of my life for piece of cloth. I did it, in theory at least, to protect the freedoms of my fellow cou
Report Post »Doodidle
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:06pmmaybe we should wrap him in it before he ignites the flag. It should be against the law to do this. I am however proud of the student president saying they will be having a counter protest with the national anthem and the pledge of alligence. just dont have chirstina aguilera there to do it. It WOULD be counter productive and may insight more flag burnings.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:07pmRegarding the prior incident
It was done by a 23 yr old Issac Estava, with dual US / Columbian citizenship. He stole a vehicle to escape the cops, and the stolen vehicle, was found with drug paraphenalia, as well as the knife with the strands of the flags raising line still on the blade. Also red and black spray paint cans were found in the stolen car
Report Post »s-n-t
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:07pmIt always strikes me — the irony of some idiot relying on this nation’s laws for the “freedom” to burn the very symbol of those laws and that freedom. I guess one has the right to burn the Constitution, but then what will he point to to protect that freedom?
Report Post »NSDQ
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:12pmHow about a nice fine for a bonfire without a permit
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:15pm@13TH IMAM Stop lumping Anarchist to that group, seriously, look up what a real Anarchist is. They are much closer to the concept of the right then to those groups you lumped them up with. You confuse real Anarchist with reactionary/transitional Anarchist. Those just want chaos in order to transition to a purely Socialist system. They are not real Anarchist but just want the concept of no government in order to have a void for their Socialist ideals to take over.
I re-read the article and saw zero mention of theft. Please elaborate. I’m more than confident that these students purchased the flag they intend to burn.
@JOHN 3:16 What would you call those that oppose burning the flag but take away your freedoms form you in the dead of the night? George W. Bush did more harms to our freedom then this college student can ever do burning a flag. Who’s more detrimental to our freedoms? A protested who burns the flag or the politician that takes away your actual freedoms?
@DUSTYLUV Imagine if we were standing on April 1st, 1775, 18 days before the start of the revolutionary war. Would you have told the founding fathers “If you don’t like it get out!!!!” I guarantee many loyalist told them that. Imagine our country had they listened….. decent and rebellion against government is what created our nation, it’s one of the most important freedom we have.
@SINISTA MACE I’m actually surprised at how you responded. I guess I didn’t know you as well as I thought I did.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:19pm@NSDQ I wonder, would you still fight for that ability to fine for not having a permit if you wanted to have a bonfire in your backyard? Are you a government supporter who believes we need to ask permission to do anything these days? Or do you only support big government and big brother when it’s convenient for yourself? Be careful what you wish for, before long it will be turned against you.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:28pm@Soldier Separated from reality
Anarchist
1 A person who rebels against ANY authority or ruling power
2 A person who believes in, or advocates, or promotes Anarchy , one who uses VIOLENT means to OVERTHROW the established order.
My statement stands
Report Post »unsalvageable.org
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:30pmWe will honor his first amendment rights to burn our flag but we ridicule Terry Jones for burning a Quran?
Report Post »Let me make sure that I understand, insult any religion except Christianity and it’s hateful, Burn any flag except the American flag and it’s bigoted, and one of my favorites…disagree with a liberal and you’re dumb and racist! http://www.unsalvageable.org
lovenfl3
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:30pmHow proud his parents must be. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dNIXND6T5E
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:32pmAlso Soldier, the post regarding the stolen vehicle was the other perp who Stole the flag from the war memorial. Do some research,. you will find it enlightening
Report Post »Lotus503
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:37pmOkay…the desecrating what kind of flag would really tick this guy off?. ACORN? AFL-CIO? The hammer & sickle of the old Solviet Union? I got it! How about a Muslim flag?
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:39pm“2 A person who believes in, or advocates, or promotes Anarchy , one who uses VIOLENT means to OVERTHROW the established order.”
Using this definition, our founding fathers were Anarchist. They may not have believed in Anarchy, but they did use violence to overthrow the established order.
Anarchy gets a bad rap from certain individuals that use it for attention or to create chaos. True anarchism is essentially an extreme version of libertarianism. Instead of severely limited government, there is no government. No government does not necessarily mean no rules or common law.
Unless you just want to sensationalize the notion of Anarchism.
But I’m still wondering why no one has responded to my counter argument of the flag burning?
Report Post »smak
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:41pm@poverty.sucks
Report Post »I‘ll counter with burning a copy of the Qur’ran while munching on Pork Rind
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Go for it. Do it.
ReddenBlack
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:50pmMy parents always taught me the American Flag stands for things. One of the things it stands for is the right to burn it. My parents are right. So is Ben Haas. Ben, if you are reading this, I think you are a True American Hero. If I can help, let me know. First Amendment rules.
Report Post »Susan Harkins
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:53pmAnother child who didnt feel like he got enough of mommy’s attention, growing up.
Report Post »wildjoker5
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 12:54pmThe ACTION of burning the flag is a freedom of speech. But the ACTION of burning a cross is a hate crime. Double standards.
Burning the flag during a “peace” protest. Next up, Robert Byrd (I know he is dead) giving a speech at the NAACP.
Report Post »Sam Brown
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 1:07pmI deon‘t understand why people who hate the flag won’t go find another flag to live under.
Sam
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 1:18pmOne day, all this will turn sour and we will begin to look like the third world nations that riot, kill and destroy at the drop of a hat. One day, it will all come to a head, that is the history of nations. God I pray it doesn’t, but that is not the history of mankind.
Report Post »shannon1776
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 1:28pmamen
Report Post »wildjoker5
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 1:30pm“Using this definition, our founding fathers were Anarchist. They may not have believed in Anarchy, but they did use violence to overthrow the established order.”
No, they sent a letter to the king stating they were going to set up a new government that was free from England’s rule. Then they DEFENDED themselves when the British soldier came to reclaim their lost territory.
Report Post »shannon1776
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 1:30pmQuestion: Would the school grant the right of Tea Party members who wanted to burn an image of Obama? Of course not. In a sick way, and as long as no one except the punk doing the burning, I hope he burns himself and half the campus……
No wait, then LSU will get federal tax dollars to rebuild.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 1:34pm@WILDJOKER5 It’s all a matter of perspective, wouldn’t you say? I guarantee King George didn’t see it that way. I would bet a paycheck he would have considered them terrorist of sorts, outlaws on some level.
I’m still wondering why no one is refuting my argument….
Report Post »wildjoker5
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 1:58pm@American Soldier (Separated)
Report Post »As military myself, I support freedom of speech. Speech can only be heard, not seen. Speech comes over the radio, no images. The ACTION of burning a flag is NOT speech. I don’t know what is burning when I hear fire, only that there is a fire going. Fire has no voice, it has no conscience. ACTIONS are not speech, they are expressions of your feelings, and feelings will make criminal actions hate crimes.
Tiger52
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 2:00pmAs a student at LSU, I am glad to hear that the student who was going to burn the United Stated flag has just been arrested for not having a permit. I am so happy to hear this. As a person who grew up in a military family, I know what our soldiers go through. We should be honoring and showing respect towards these fine men and woman that serve our country, and not burning a flag that these same men and woman fight for each and every day.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 2:02pmPatrick in AZ
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 11:11am
I wonder how the university would have reacted if his intention was to burn a Mexican flag
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Patrick in AZ, excellent question.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 2:08pmI would EXPECT that this student will be turning down any GOVERNMENT LOANS OR GRANTS! . Yes .. I don’t think so either.
Report Post »the_zazzy
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 2:20pm@American Soldier:
Report Post »I suppose the way you have explained it, your arguement about symbolism is correct. Let’s take it a step further…how about I take a dump on your mother’s grave? It’s not actually your mother, just a symbol of her. Is that the same analogy? Would you be at peace with what I did? It’s my first amendment right, isn’t it. You see, the flag, although just a piece of cloth, represents countless men and women who have died to give people the freedoms they enjoy. People like this guy need to find another less-offensive way to voice his displeasure with the government. I don’t think any rational person views our flag as a symbol of the government…it is a symbol of FREEDOM!
FedupTexasFed
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 2:23pmJust what would have or will happen if a student decided to wave the Stars and Bars while singing Dixie? The same student council that approved the above mentioned demonstration would undoubtably deny the petition. If for some reason the student council allowed it that person would be arrested and charged with a hate crime by the Campus PD, or another department I’m sure!
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 2:47pm@WILDJOKER5 So as Americans, we do not have the right nor DUTY to act upon our political opposition?
As the declaration states, it is not only our right but our DUTY. I do not agree with this person’s message but I believe he has the right to express his opposition to the government in this way.
You say I have the right to voice my opposition but not the right to act upon it?I disagree with you entirely. Action is sometimes necessary. He isn’t burning YOUR flag. He isn’t burning YOUR house. He is demonstrating his freedom to express his opposition to our government. Of all rights we have, the ability to oppose our government is one of the most important rights we have.
@TIGER52 Ahhh yes, let’s all cheer on big government and requirement for permits. If it had been a tea party organizer who was arrested for not having a permit, you’d be all outraged and pulling Eric Holder jokes, etc. Bunch of hypocrites. Big government is good as long as it’s not used on yourself. Big government and permits to hold a protest just sounds retarded. “I’m asking you for permission to protest against you!” Seriously?
Report Post »mrobillard
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 2:53pmHe got scared…
Report Post »http://thehayride.com/2011/05/he-wimped-out/
American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 2:53pm@THE_ZAZZY First of all, is my mother buried at a cemetery where I paid for the land that she is buried in? If so, you are infringing on my rights to my property. You’re act of symbolism is negated by my property rights. Also, it’s not a symbol of her, her actual physical bones are buried in that grave site. Freedom is not actually contained within the fibers of the flag. Your analogy does not work at all. You are trying to compare apples to manure.
Less offensive means? This is the Blaze is it not? I hear complaints on here on an hourly basis about how PC is destroying this country.
Answer me this, would you rather preserve the symbol of freedom or the actual freedom it represents? That is the true argument here. Is preserving the symbol of freedom (flag) worth destroying the actual freedom it’s suppose to represent?
Report Post »gotta light
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 3:02pmAnyone else remember what the Muslim crazies did when a Quran was burned?
Can we now do the same?
Will NoMomma Obama take a stand and speak up about about this being wrong?
Will the lame street media remain silent?!?!
Will anyone on the left, progressive or liberal speak up about this like they did over a Quran burning?
I think not but we shall see…
Hey bud gotta light?
Report Post »KPEdwards
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 3:14pm@THE_ZAZZY
The analogy doesn’t really work. There’s the whole private property vs public, and I’m sure public defecation is illegal. I‘m sure he’d be unhappy about you doing it, but if it was legal and on public property then I think he‘d acknowledge he couldn’t stop you. Just like, I‘m assuming he doesn’t like that the student is burning the flag, but acknowledges that he can‘t or wouldn’t stop it. Also, one is a personal attack, while the other is political speech.
@WILDJOKER5
I really hope you’re joking about your definition of speech.
@AMERICAN SOLDIER (SEPARATED)
I really was happy to see someone else acknowledge that Anarchist don’t want to just get rid of the current power. They actively believe that the best system of government is a completely local and decentralized approach. Such that each person is in effect their own state, without any federal system. Personally, I don’t think this would work – particularly given the size of our nation, but it’s a legitimate political theory that people have the right to think.
Also, I always thought what made America a great nation is that we incorporate anti-Americanism into American thought. We allow our citizens to legitimately think and believe our own destruction can be the right path for us. Of course, we have laws designed to prevent such a destruction (although some here would disagree).
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 3:15pmas long as he isnt burning korans.
Report Post »restorehope
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 3:21pmHow shameful. And if that guy got into trouble overseas, he would be the first to embrace the American flag to save himself. If he doesn’t like what America has stood for for over 200 years, then he should take a hike. We don’t want slugs like him here.
Report Post »the_zazzy
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 3:55pmObviously the actual freedom is what’s worth preserving. I suppose that most of us have a hard time separating the two, though. Why can’t we shoot bald eagles? They are a national symbol. I know you are going to say that they are an endangered species, but I don’t buy that arguement. I suppose that I view flag burning as “hate speech,” which are the left’s favorite buzzwords?
Report Post »v-vet1968
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 4:02pmneed to burn his poor choice of clothing.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 4:06pmAfter seeing the outstanding opposition to this idiot, I hereby retract my previous post. My apologies, LSU.
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 10:48am
I say we go to the LSU campus and burn as much LSU crap as we can find.
Report Post »stogieguy7
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 4:16pmAs we love to celebrate “diversity”, let’s react in the same way that the Muslim world does to such things. Assemble into a gang, find the nearest liberals and behead them. Surely that would be above reproach as there was no outrage when the same thing happened in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
And that was only a book.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 4:18pm@American Soldier (Separated),
“Burn the flag. I’ll burn it myself, personally, if it means that American’s can regain TRUE freedom again. I’ll defend the actual FREEDOM rather than just the symbol of it. Symbols fade or gets destroyed. The actual freedom itself is what’s important.”
Yes! Thank you.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on May 11, 2011 at 4:21pmAmerican Soldier (Separated)
@JOHN 3:16 What would you call those that oppose burning the flag but take away your freedoms form you in the dead of the night? George W. Bush did more harms to our freedom then this college student can ever do burning a flag. Who’s more detrimental to our freedoms? A protested who burns the flag or the politician that takes away your actual freedoms?
I can go along with a lot of what you say but are you so naive to think that Obama and his RED thugs have done anything to reverse the policies of GWB? Please.. I suppose like the rest of the **** on the left you now support all the Wars because Obama has usurped the position of President?
Regardless Imagine the fuss the Marxist Media would be making if they were burning a Mexican flag??? lol
Report Post »theteaishot
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 4:22pmHe and his followers need to pay a visit to an ER. Be prepared for the COPs to defend the Flag Burner against the students. In some states the COPs put up barriers around Left Wing Flag Burners and keep everyone out so the Flags can be burned. Now of these Flag Burners need open air burning permits do they?
Report Post »theteaishot
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 4:25pmThe COPs will not allow anyone burn a Koran. Since Madison, Wisconsin we now know what side the Union Thug COPs are on don’t we. These COPs are only in it for the money and will defend Flag Burners. COPs joined in with the Union Thugs to create over $7.5 Million in property damage and vandalism to the State Building.
Report Post »theteaishot
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 4:29pmKorans should be burned if the US Flag is burned. Those who burn our Flag will be responsible for all the people around the world that Moslems murder over the burning Koran.
Report Post »HairRazor
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 10:56pmtexasnotsocommonsense.. you can kick his stupid muslim a$$ all you want but don’t be burning any LSU property… comes out of my state’s budget…
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