Lutheran Divisions Over Bible, Homosexuality May Cause Major Social Service Crackup
- Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:20pm by
Billy Hallowell
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NEW YORK (The Blaze/AP) — One of the largest social service networks in the United States, working in areas ranging from adoption to disaster relief, faces a shakeup because of Lutheran divisions over the Bible and homosexuality. Considering the importance of non-governmental agencies and religious groups in combating various social ills, the impact could be substantial.
The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, a theologically conservative denomination, said Wednesday that direct work with its larger and more liberal counterpart, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, has become “difficult if not impossible,” because of doctrinal conflicts, including the 2009 decision by liberal Lutherans to lift barriers for ordaining gays and lesbians.
Neither denomination would discuss the potential financial impact Wednesday. Many Lutheran-affiliated agencies receive substantial state and federal grants that would not be directly affected by any split. However, similar to Catholic Charities, Lutheran agencies are some of the biggest service providers in their communities.
Just one of the joint Lutheran agencies, Lutheran Services in America, said on its website that it encompasses more than 300 health and human services organizations with a combined annual budget of more than $16 billion.
“We recognize that this is a difficult issue. It’s complicated,” said the Rev. Herb Mueller, first vice president of the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, based in St. Louis. “We‘re trying to take a nuanced and caring approach to all of these situations that’s also faithful to what the Bible teaches on these issues.”
The Rev. Donald McCoid, an ecumenical officer for the Chicago-based Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, said, “we are deeply concerned about the ministries of care that may be challenged by the recent action of The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod.”
The 2.3 million-member Missouri Synod has been studying the issue for more than a year through its Committee on Theology and Church Relations. This week, the panel issued a 15-page document of guidelines for churches, congregants and ministries deciding whether they should cut off any direct joint work with the Chicago-based Lutherans.
The only immediate announced break was for the Missouri Synod to stop its decades-old practice of training military chaplains with the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. The president of the Missouri Synod, the Rev. Matthew Harrison, said in a statement that the decision, effective next year, was based on the ELCA decision on gay ordination, and on the military’s plan to repeal the “don’t ask, don’t tell,” policy.
However, the guidelines for evaluating the joint relationships made it clear that cooperative work in many of the agencies is likely to end.
The Missouri-Synod theology committee said members of its denomination should examine whether joint cooperative agencies:
- Adopt operational principles “alien or contrary” to Scripture.
- Hire staff or a leader “whose lifestyle is scandalous or openly and unrepentantly sinful.”
- Have board members overseeing an agency who “become conflicted because of differing beliefs.”
- Have leaders or staff who advocate policies “contrary to the Christian faith.”
The committee used its most direct language to discuss the future of its corps of chaplains who work outside of the military, in nursing homes and hospitals, and on college campuses, among other assignments.
“The ELCA’s current theological course presents serious theological challenges to any continued cooperation in endorsement procedures,” according to the Missouri-Synod report.
The tangle of Lutheran agencies is the mainly the result of decades of splits and mergers among Lutherans in the United States. The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, with about 4.5 million members, was formed from a merger of four church bodies with Danish, Finnish, German and Swedish backgrounds. Mueller said in an interview that 81 of the 120 recognized service organizations of the Missouri-Synod cooperate in some way with the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.
Mueller said the agencies would be evaluated on a case-by-case basis in a process that could take months.
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St. Ephen
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:17pmI don’t know what all of the denominational red-tape is about. Homosexuality is a sin, it is a mistake. Whether you believe that it is a life-choice or something that happens in the womb, the fact is that homosexuals are intolerant of the opposite sex. I have known lesbians that claim to have PTSD due to having had a male boss and other observations similar to that. It is a known fact that gay men are more promiscuous than lesbians who are more nurturing (The rate of AIDS proves that fact). Heterosexual couples have to come to terms with their partner’s tendencies and curb their own at times (one example is the male desire for exploration, or adventure, or even danger and a female desire to settle, or nest, or bond). Homosexuals never compromise or concede to the opposite sex. How can any church have a homosexual leader that is intolerant of the opposite sex when Christianity requires you to love your neighbor.
Don’t get me wrong, I think the Wesboro Baptist Church goes off the deep end opposing homosexuality, but it is a sin. No more and no less than other sins (gluttony, materialism…). I think that church leaders should be examples of self-control. It should be no less scandalous to have a homosexual as a church leader than Jim Baker’s materialism and theft, Jimmy Swaggart’s prostitute scandal, or Catholic church’s recent incidents of priests molesting children.
Report Post »1TrueOne55
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 12:00amEventually the ELCA will have the same scandals that the Catholic priests have endured when they start having more radical Gays as leaders of the Church. It is only a matter of EVIL TIME!!!
Report Post »Al J Zira
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 12:12amYou make a great argument.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 12:43amYour observations back up the reproductive skew theory.
I do believe that male homosexuals bond. I just don’t believe that it is that strong one based on postings at a website and bios that I have read. Poster at one website is not the universe, but it is a very active site and so the sample is large.
Hostile to the other sex? They were at college (a small sample of 30 to 60). If that is true that is damning.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:22amSo many things in life i don’t quite understand,so i do my best to seek guidence and get answers from God’s word the Bible,nowhere in the Bible do i find that God ordains gay or lesbian sex,neither does he approve of adultry,nor does he approve of pre-martial sex,Now sin is sin regardless of how you look at it,adultry is just as wrong in the eyes of God as homosexual sin is,It’s all sin and sin will send a person to hell unless that person repents of that sin.I have seen boys that were fenmine and girls that were masculine,What are they supposed to do with their desires?,WEll the only real answer i can give is seek God and read the Bible,and allow God to direct you .If God can cause the blind to see,heal the lame and open the ears of the deaf then i know he can change the desires of a person from same sex relations to hetrosexual relations.
Report Post »maryholloway51
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 1:47pmThe Mo Synod, to which my church belongs, is “home” away from home (Heaven) for all who gather. Anyone who has been baptized and believes the facts: Jesus is the Son of God; Conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of Virgin Mary; crucified, dead and buried. The third day HE arose from the dead and later ascended into Heaven. We believe the Bible to be the inerrant words of GOD. Sin is not forbidden for fun; sin is forbidden as it is harmful. We love the sinner and hate the sin, yet if one CANNOT BE ONE, one cannot TEACH! (gay priests, unmarried living together couples Sunday School Class.” If given a choice of being miserable on earth for a time in order to spend Eternity with GOD, OR living a hedonistic life, indulging all sins of the flesh and spending eternity in Hell” WHICH CHOICE would I want GOD to make? Embrace the misery, learn patience and KNOW THAT ALL THINGS TURN OUT FOR THE BEST when GOD is leading the way.
Report Post »Susan09
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 3:37pmYour Correct About the Love THY NEIGHBOR Yet The ROYAL COMMAND IS “LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF” How Many OF US actually Follow the “ROYAL COMMAND”? IF MORE PEOPLE WOULD there would Be alot less Crimanals. EXAMPLE. ANYONE that Understands the Command to begin with WOULD NOT PRAY WISH OR HOPE that THEIR NEIGHBOR would Enter Their Home and Murder and Destroy THEM and THEIR FAMILY. Yet There are apparently many People That DO NOT LOVE THYSELVES that Keeps Them from DOING exactly That MURDERING and NOT ONLY DESTROYING OTHERS but THEIR OWN PEOPLE families and THEIR own CHILDREN. When it Comes to Homosexuality and Lesbianism, THE LORD THY GOD destroyed a CITY OF SUCH CALLED SODOMITES. HOMOSEXUALS , IN the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST. In the First Chapter of Romans, Again IT is Written about THE ABOMINABLE SINS of BOTH HOMOSEXUAL SODOMITES and LESBIAN SODOMY UNATURAL SEXUAL ACTS BY THE WOMAN. Again How Does one Deny GODS WORD that has Been So plainly been Pointed out IN ALL HIS WORD FROM GENESIS- THE BOOK OF ROMANS CHAPTER ONE? STILL AN ABOMINABLE ABONIMATION TO HIM AND ACCORDING TO PAUL WHOM JESUS MET ON the ROAD TO DAMASCUS AFTER HIS RESURRECTION. REALLY DID SEND TO MINISTER A one IN CORINTH. Eventually He and Peter had a Disagreeement. Many JEWISH Did Not Hear Paul and accept Pauls Ministry, So He Gave The Word To the Greeks.Notice It Was not ALL JEWISH THAT DENIED his Ministry It was Many, Being a Difference Between The Seducees and The Pharrisees,
Report Post »Rdmae
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:24pmLet me see…”homosexuality is a sin…no worse or no better than gluttony or materialism”…….so we should deny the right to marry to fat people and wealthy people…..sounds good to me!
Report Post »jeronadams
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:30pmI was just wondering if you could clear up your logic for me: So are hetero pastors intolerant of the same sex?
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:50pmRdmae, why are you here? You are truly ignorant of the scriptures, which makes your post absolutely stupid.
Report Post »jtm
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 9:57amThis is the natural outcome of Martin Luther’s theology of individual interpretation of scripture. Even he recognized it by sarcastically saying that “now every milkmaid on every farm will be divining the scriptures”. The natural result is to split, because that is the nature of protestantism.
Report Post »jc1076
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 8:23pmYou are right and the LGBT are even teaching how to attack the Christian Faith. http://www.faithinamerica.org. Mr. Beck please stand up for the right thing here and address that Christians are not BIGOTS just becasue we identify homosexuality as a sin.. We are all sinners, but sexual sin is not the same as segregation, or racial identity. The website indicates that the Christian faith teaches that all LGBT individuals are lower than human beings, a wrthless people. I dont think the BIBLE ever said that… WHAT SPIN!! and they even asked for an apology… WOW!! I will never apologise for following GOD’s word!
Report Post »freemama
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:16pmPresident Rev. Harrison is a good man with many years of service with Lutheran World Relief. I trust that God is using this servant at this time to help the LCMS steer clear of groups with false teachings. There are many within the LCMS who are ready to break from the ELCA in these agencies because they have become incompatible.
Report Post »ksbw88
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 1:05pmWhat about the false teachings inside the LCMS. There are plenty of Congregations breaking with the LCMS because of their Anit-Christian teachings.
For the LCMS this is a day late and a dollar short.
Report Post »PatriotPiney
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 4:26pmI‘m so grateful to see my synod standing firm on God’s Word! ELCA has fallen into the trap of trying to remain “relevent” in a very sick and disordered world. On some things, however, the church must remain firm. Scripture is one of them! Thank you, LCMS President Rev. Harrison!
Report Post »mikenleeds
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:09pmif your not following god s word your not a church at all , all homos are going to hell ..read your bible and quit making up ****
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 12:58am“It should be no less scandalous to have a homosexual as a church leader than Jim Baker’s materialism and theft, Jimmy Swaggart’s prostitute scandal, or Catholic church’s recent incidents of priests molesting children.” -St. Ephen
The wealth and corruption of the Pharisees upset Jesus. Poverty upsets things now. It’s why we have so many socialists.
IMO socialists and small c communists are hucksters or don;t have the courage of their convictions. There are at least 2 communes in the U.S. It is legal to practice communism. Do it, grow it and show us the way. Just don upset the whole apple cart, break it, set yourself in charge (wannabees) as elites.
Report Post »hopetochange2012
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 9:16amWalkabout….the difference is the first examples are sins of men. The Catholic Church never taught that the sins of the priests were anything but sins. In contrast, the Lutheran Church is trying to decide whether homosexuality will be a sin or not! Apparently, the Lutherans are guided by votes instead of the Bible.
Report Post »dudironimis
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:51am@Mikenleeds maybe you should read the bible yourself. Nowhere in there does it say it is a sin to be gay. It only says it is a sin for a man to have sexual relations with another man. It also leaves lesbians completely out of the picture.
Report Post »FLyoverman
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:06pmGiven their positions as compared to Luther’s interpretation of Scripture the ELCA should drop the word “Lutheran” from their name. They acept little of Luther’s theological positions.
Report Post »Musketrea
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 7:46amSadly, this is true. There are many who, like Elijah, have not bent the kneee to Baal trying to be a faithful witness within the ELCA, but it is only a matter of time before we are driven out as well.
Report Post »jsDway
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:05pmHomosexuallity is a SIN! I really don’t understand why people do not get the fact that man on man sex is abnormal just as woman on woman! Satan is working overtime to bring our churches down, Satan knows he has little time left to destroy the souls of man. Abortion, adultery, lying, killing, incest, stealing, taking the name of the Lord in vain are all SINS, is the Lutheran Church willing to condone all of these also! Jesus is pretty ticked at those who call themselves Christians – His judgement is on it’s way.
Report Post »thinkinghuman
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 12:17amIt doesn’t help that we have wicked GOVERNMENT getting in the way of all this and making laws legalizing all that stuff.
Report Post »jeronadams
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:34pmSo Jesus has personally came down to earth and told you personally that he was ticked off at gays? Also with you fundamentalist argument you believe that if a father was to brutally kill his child because they talked back it would be the Christian thing to do.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:04pmI grew up in the ELCA…left them when I was a teenager and I found out they were fundng the WCC and the NCC which both supported communist revolutionary movements in the third world…they’re a real piece of work….
Report Post »honestynow
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:46amGreat point. I think many people would be surprised to learn that many denominations do the same. In searching for a new church, I did my homework and was shocked. Please google your national church body as well as international body.
Report Post »CommonSenseRN
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:03pmA line is being drawn in the sand, and you will either stand with God, or against Him. Which side are you on?
Report Post »Cheetosareus
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:00pmAll the Christian denominations are divided between the truth keepers and the liberals. Time to choose your side. Be very careful. It will determine where you spend eternity.
Report Post »NUTN2SAY
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:59pmThis is a continuation….
Whether it be because of nature or nurture. HOMOSEXUALS NEED TO BE CONSIDERED HAS THE SLACKERS TO MANKIND!
Heterosexual human beings are the reference standard to the preservation of the human species. If you are not up to preserving the human species for whatever reason then that makes you inferior and not equal, political correctness be damned!
HETEROSEXUALS ARE ULTIMATELY ALL ABOUT THE PRESERVATION OF THE HUMAN SPECIES.
HOMOSEXUALS ARE ULTIMATELY ALL ABOUT THE DEVASTATION OF THE HUMAN SPECIES.
And just for a electoral vote…..your elected representative, my elected representative….
HAS SOLD YOU, AS A HETEROSEXUAL, ME, AS A HETEROSEXUAL, AND MANKIND OUT!
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:55pmThe real problem with homosexuality is that it is anti-freedom. Homosexuality hits the whole idea of freedom at its most basic level. Freedom and what it means must be passed down to our children. If we do not have children because we are homosexual then freedom dies. Everything and everyone dies. Homosexuality is another suicidal psychosis of humanity. It should fit in well with liberal suicidal ideology.
Report Post »willbeeler
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:50pm*yawn* Seen this, and I know where this is going…. and it’s not good….
Report Post »Greenwood
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:49pm” Go in through the narrow gate, because broad and spacious is the road leading off to destruction and many are the ones going in through it. Matthew 7: 13………..
Report Post »” Not everyone saying to me, Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of the heavens,…………………….
…………And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU ! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness. Matthew 7: 21-23
True2thereplublic
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:03pmBig mistake! This is what happens when you compromise Gods word. Our Lutheran friends will pay dearly for this.
Report Post »jacobstroubles
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:32amAmen! GOD is about to wrap things up down here. Jesus Christ is coming for his Bride! The tribulation is about to begin. Those who willingly participated in support of or directly in this vile and filthy SIN/behavior… woe be it to you.
Report Post »BIBLETHUMPER
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:47pmIf you think that homosexuality is compatible with Christianity, here’s another debate that will teach you the truth:
http://www.aomin.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=59&products_id=857
This debate will break your heart and cause you to pray for all non-believers to come to Christ. Homosexuality is a sin. There are many different types of sin, many of which I commit. That God for sending His Savior to redeem those who exercise faith in Christ. While all sins are wretched and horrible, all sins are NOT equal. Some are worse than others. The Bible makes this clear (i can quote the verses if anyone doubts this).
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:05pmits not so much the sin itself…we all sin…its the belief that homosexuality is NOT a sin…contrary to the bible…I sin..but I’m not delude enough to think my sins are somehow not sins because I do them…
Report Post »willbedone
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:46pmHomosexuality has become so pervasive in America when judgment day comes, GOD is going to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah
Report Post »retriever
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 12:34amGod will never apologize for anything. Only politicians, media, lost souls, fake preachers, and people who put their foot in their mouth apologize.
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:45pmMissouri Synod is conservative? Maybe as compared to the ELCA.
Report Post »FLyoverman
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:01pmAlways nice to hear from the Wisconsin Synod. :-)
Report Post »ksbw88
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 1:08pmGreat Post.
Report Post »BIBLETHUMPER
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:42pmHOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH CHRISTIANITY:
I dare anyone to listen to this debate: http://www.aomin.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=59&products_id=99
Barry Lynn gets annihilated in this debate – but more importantly, listeners will come face to face with Biblical teaching.
Report Post »ChristianLayman
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:56pmBarry Lynn is a cretin, and yeah James White destroyed him hands down.
Report Post »holy ghostbuster
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 6:20amChristianity is not compatible with reason.
ChristianLayman
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:47am@HolyGhostbuster
Are you talking about present-day Fundamentalism or something else? Because many of most well-reknowned saints and church fathers came from philosophical backgrounds and heavily influenced and well versed in pagan philosophers like Socrates, Plato and Aristotle. St. Thomas Aquinas helped to further along the Theory of Natural Law and Copernicus helped to advance astronomy.
Report Post »jc1076
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 8:42pmYou are right and the LGBT are even teaching how to attack the Christian Faith. They are preparing answers:
http://www.faithinamerica.org.
Report Post »palerider54
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:41pmYou got that right BANJARMON,
Accepting the sickness of homosexuality as being normal is like throwing a drowning person an anchor.
They are rejecting Gods natural order of creation.
The day is coming when we will be arrested for hate speech and our churches fined for saying this.
The denominations that accept this sin will not lose any of its members in the Rapture.
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:39pmThe ELCA isn’t really a religion any more, it’s a gay brothel that meets on Sunday.
Report Post »BIBLETHUMPER
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:37pmBIBLE LESSON ON HOMOSEXUALITY:
New Testament is clear in stating homsexuality is a sin. In fact, in Romans 1:26 it is described as a pretty wretched sin, since God turns such perverts over to their own lusts – this seems to indicate that God will remove His restraining power and let these sinners follow their cravings into hell itself.
1Corinthians 6:9 is clear that homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
This sounds harsh, but I have to be direct, or else people will say that the Bible allows for homsexuality… and I dont want anyone to distort the Scripture to their own destruction (2Peter 3:16)
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:36pmJust like what Obama wants to do with the Constitution. Let’s just change it with the times. No roots. No backing. No basis. No Point!
Report Post »NUTN2SAY
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:35pmFolks!
It’s long past due for the heterosexuals of the world to put heterosexualphobes in their proper place!
If you were part of a six person carpentry crew building a house and five members of that crew noticed that the sixth member of that crew was sitting down on the job slacking. You and I know darn well that that sixth crew member would be criticized and ridiculed for not doing their equal share of the work.
That’s real world common sense.
But we live in a world where politicians love to start class warfare amongst the masses of people. Especially when those politicians are running dry on votes and need new voters!
Hence the legitimization of homosexuality in the world. But it’s not just the legitimization of homosexuality in the world. The politicians turn it into a war where the heterosexuals have to defend themselves and the laws of nature!
The law of nature is a simple law.
Heterosexuals ultimate reason for being is to create more heterosexuals for the preservation of the human species.
Homosexuals work to contradict the preservation of the human species by not only failing to do their fair share to preserve the human species, but by also spreading a deadly disease.
And yours and mine desperate elected representatives insist on ramming down the throats of heterosexuals….homosexuals are your equal!
No they are not! And it’s time to put a stop to that erroneous idea!
Whether it be because of nature or nurture. HOMOSEXUALS NEED TO
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 1:36amexactly.
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 8:02am@NUTN2SAY—Please don’t use the term“ramming it down our throats ” when talking about homosexuality. It just reduces a good point you make. Just sayin.
Report Post »ChristianLayman
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:33pmI pray that the ECLA will recant its decisions and repent of its current flirtation with promotion of immoral behavior. I also pray on the behalf of the Missouri Synod Lutherans that they may not be dragged any
Report Post »further into this mess and that their leaders stay strong against the encroachment of evil.
Eblaze44
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 4:13pmYou call it “flirtation”. The man is holding the gun that is smoking and the dead man is laying at his feet, the camera shows the man pointing the bun and pulling the trigger – and the alleged shooter
Report Post »REPUB1
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:30pmCatholics are not the only one’s MO money MO money MO money in their pockets………
Report Post »ChristianLayman
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 11:00pmDo you thump your KJV with your left thumb or your right? In all the excitement I kind of got confused and carried away from class. So I go to you, the expert.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:29pmGOD did NOT make GAY Roosters!!!
Report Post »AmericanStrega
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:34pmYou got that right Buddy!
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:36pmAnd by seeing their breeding habits NOR did he make gay illegal mexicans
Report Post »REPUB1
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:24pmliberal Lutherans you mean SATAN’S Lutherans dont you???
Report Post »Eblaze44
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 4:16pmLet me see: to be a Lutheran – you should be adhering to Martin Luther’s teachings. These people are not Lutherans, just as a lot of “Christians” aren’t – they are not followers of the Christ Jesus – they are followers of their own beliefs.
Report Post »RJO
Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:26pmHmmmm. More evidence to why “Satan” may be having a good laugh right now. The thousands of “reformations” within the original demonstrate how fractured Christians are. How sad. How sad to read of the hate and the contempt….spewed on fellow “reformers” and on the original Christian Church.
Sad how the fracturing was intended to bring the “Church” back to its “original” base….and the effect of thousands of fractures by so many self-appointed “Popes” is driving it further into the abyss.
As humans, as “Christians” we need to work for “common ground” on the basics….sadly the basics have been and continue to be under assault from within (marriage, right to life and many, many others).
Don’t give Satan a reason to “laugh”….give many reasons to “fear.”
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