‘Made in China’: U.S. Military Finding Fake Chinese Electronics in Gear At Alarming Rate
- Posted on November 9, 2011 at 2:50pm by
Buck Sexton
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The U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee has found that counterfeit electronic parts are finding their way into the U.S. military supply chain at an alarming rate.
SH-60B Seahawk
The Senate released a report that claims that on 1,800 separate occasions, the U.S. military or contractors have purchased electronics materials for defense systems that were either fake or poorly recycled.
In some cases, defective chips made their way into critical U.S. weapons and navigation systems. The examples could provide a serious wake-up call to defense contractors and others involved in the military supply chain. In one instance highlighted by the Senate report, it was pointed out that, on September 8th, the defense contractor Raytheon notified the Navy of the following:
“Counterfeit transistors had been found on a night vision or FLIR system used on the Navy’s SH-60B helicopters. If the FLIR system were to fail, the Navy said the helicopter would be unable to conduct surface warfare missions using Hellfire missiles.”
In another example involving the Air Force’s C-27J aircraft, the report stated that, on September 19, contractor L-3 told the Air Force that ”38 video memory chips installed on the plane’s display units were suspected to be counterfeit.”
C-27J
The Committee released the results of the months-long investigation earlier this week and met again today discuss legislation aimed at tackling the problem. Led by Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., the committee staff traced the DoD supply chain back to its start for more than 100 counterfeit parts and found that 70 percent of them originated in China.
Another 20% came from countries like Canada and the U.K. that resold Chinese parts to the U.S. Realistically, closer to 90% of faulty electronics in military equipment came from China.
And the problem appears to be getting worse for the defense industry. The Senate report cited Commerce Department statistics including one that said, “In 2005, there were 3,868 incidents detected, compared with 9,356 in 2008.”
Hellfire Missile
To deal with this growing problem, the Senate Committee wants stricter enforcement of the laws that protect the national defense supply chain, and even to hold Chinese parts longer at customs terminals for special inspection.
In addition, Senators on the Committee want contractors to be responsible for the replacement cost of faulty parts instead of the taxpayer. The bill for replacement parts can cost millions of dollars.
The report also discussed the complex lifecycle of Chinese counterfeit electronic parts. Electronic waste is shipped from the United States and the rest of the world to Hong Kong, where the raw materials then are often transferred to mainland China. At that point, as the Senate report says, the electronics are broken down and refurbished with no quality controls, including:
“burned off of old circuit boards, washed in the river, and dried on city sidewalks… part of this process includes removing any indentifying marks, including date codes and part numbers. Once the old part is made to look new, it is shipped to the Chinese city of Shenzhen. From China, the counterfeit part makes its way through the DoD supply chain, often passing through four or five subcontractors before a prime contractor has integrated it onto a weapon system.”
While the report focuses on unintentional threats to the military supply chain, the presence of shoddy Chinese electronics in thousands of devices and the apparent U.S. reliance on China for its national defense supply chain should concern all Americans.
It’s one thing to outsource toys and toasters, but more than anything else, American military equipment should probably bear the stamp “Made in U.S.A.”
(H/T: Army Times)
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Comments (247)
Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:04pmWhy are these parts Made in China. None of our military equipment should be made in any other country. China could have even built in an “off” switch in these chips. Quit low-balling our soldiers!
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:12pmYou said it so well. Our equipment for the military should ONLY be made in America. They are putting our soldiers at risk and us. This administration is selling us out and hoping half of us die.
Report Post »Alucard
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:14pmAgreed.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:21pmWe have lost our minds to be buying anything from them for our own miltary use. They would have no problem with our stuff….remember ((Made in Japan)) in the 1970s? Yea! It was junk for sure but not now, but thats another story altogether.
Report Post »ballhogjoni
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:21pm@NHWINTER your wrong its actually 3/4
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:22pmClinton and Gore gave China so much of our Military technology, that they just started making parts. We look at the amazing prices and just jumped on it.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:26pmIndeed, and do not be shocked if there is a “off” switch built into the things.
Report Post »YoungBloodNews
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:31pmFriends,
Check out Ron Paul call what Bamsters doing as coming close to a dictatorship, even if you dont support him in 2012 its worth a watch:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/09/ron_paul_obama_presidency_on_the_verge_of_being_a_dictatorship.html
On topic: This is what happens when you move all manufacturing overseas and particularity to those countries who dont have your best interests in mind…
Report Post »SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:36pmBecause the Govt awards contracts to the cheapest bidder! Where else can you get cheap parts? China! Why? SLAVE LABOR. Cmon lets call it what it is they use slave labor & thats why business goes there. Aside from high taxes & govt regs on mfg’rs what else can a company do to be competitive if LABOR costs are killing them? They must look for cheaper components, raw materials China has cornered that mkt; itll be the end of us all.
I agree 100% all our military equip should be mfg’d here but what can you do to get costs down once you have cut everywhere else to get your company as lean as possible? Its just not the military its everything. China is killing us slowly we were once the hub of mfg’ing for the world thats what made US so great. Our innovation and ability to produce. Keep in mind once upon a time if you wanted a radio or refrigerator you had to buy it from the US. Those days are gone, systematically through taxes, regs and labor costs (ie UNIONS) we have shot ourselves in the foot.
So what do you do about China or any other nation that uses slave labor? Oh & just b/c the workers arent chained or being whipped doesnt mean they arent slaves; $1 a day should say enough! What do we do? Only way to get on top is some new radical invention that everyone on the planet will need which is entirely produced in US including raw materials. Anyone have any ideas? ‘Cause its going to take warp drive being invented to pull it off! http://SavingtheRepublic.com
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:38pmObama probably has a Made in China sticker on his backside. Someone please throw the off switch.
Report Post »SoulReaver
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:43pmI agree what if we went to war with China and they had a disable mechanism that was was programmed in to the chips. Didn’t someone in WW II make bullets for the germans that would not work. This can not be allowed to happen. And with the price tags that we pay you would think that we are not cutting corners.
However there is the use the best technology part of this. We need to make sure that we stay on the cutting edge of this so we will have the best technology. How about employing people that are not working so we are paying them anyway to test and help do a little R & D. Since we disbanded and defunded NASA how about we take those people and employ them for R & D, for our military.
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:43pmI couldn’t agree more. This is unbelievable. How long have we been using these? Who decided to get these from China? Who is responsible? This is a big deal and we need the answers.
Report Post »MomaGrisley2
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:56pmIt used to be prior to the CLINTON ADMINISTRATION, all Department of Defense contracts for armed forces had to use US made parts ONLY. This changed and now we are at risk and have no jobs!
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 4:02pmI’ve been asking that for years.
Report Post »Some one want to explain to me why we landed a high tec spy plane in Chinese territory and left them take it apart? If the pilot of that plane did not want to bale the a self destruct should have been used on the ground, and baring that it should have been targeted. Some one wanted them to have it.
Hainan Island incident April 2001
@leftfighter
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 4:11pmAgree! There’s a very good, distinct possibility that China’s deliberately trying to weaken us militarily by selling us defective military equipment.
There’s absolutely no way we should allow this to happen. Thank you, Slick Willie, for giving China a Most Favored Trade Nation status.
The Dems did it again.
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 4:18pmBravo! Let’s help our own economy!!!
Report Post »docvet
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 4:20pmYou said it a lot nicer than I would have!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 4:20pmMaking our weapons in China? Duhhhhhh. Only idiots would do this.
Report Post »TheVoice1
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 4:24pmMomaGrisley2
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:56pm
It used to be prior to the CLINTON ADMINISTRATION, all Department of Defense contracts for armed forces had to use US made parts ONLY. This changed and now we are at risk and have no jobs!
Those are the facts and Well said. Insanity knows no bounds!!!! Just how far down the rabbit hole have we been taken anyway???? Nuts.
Report Post »YoungBloodNews
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 4:40pm@Moma
Lets not forget slick Willey also sold our missile technology to china for millions, which is what he should have really been impeached for….
Report Post »BlackCrow
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 4:54pmUnfortunately the environmental regulations have made it next to impossible to manufacture those components in this country regardless of cost. Another case of left wing tree hugging loons selling us out for the sake of a couple muskrats. Remember when you can’t find a light bulb, can‘t go to grandma’s house because your electric car won’t go more than 80 miles or it takes three flushes to accomplish the job that used to take one.
And government regulation isn’t effecting our private lives. (Sarcasm Font)
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 5:02pmI keep saying it, cause it keeps happening… Fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom…. we have godless people running our government…… this and many other situations like it are clear examples of something beyond stupidity.
Report Post »Want to get our government right… vote for righteousness… those that fear the LORD.
showmerancher
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 5:07pmHmmm. Like ignoring the presence of a Chinese Jin-class submarine 30 miles off the coast of California, and allowing it to launch a submarine-launched ballistic missile?
Report Post »aircraft_ee
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 5:12pmSavingtheRepublic.com – You are exactly right. I am a very senior electrical engineer; I have worked on power systems for the International Space Station and F35 for example. It is very difficult to get US-made components anymore because the defense wind-down has caused many of the major suppliers of components to cut way back on military grade production lines for semiconductors (chips and discrete products). A military grade line costs roughly 10 times what a consumer grade line costs to keep running, so if you have even a slight decrease in outgoing volume, those lines become a drain on the company profit.
The real danger is loss of rare-earths and exotic materials being under the control of the Chinese and Russians. We can’t keep our military running without spare parts made with exotics. It’s like the man-portable air-to-ground missiles (Stingers) we gave the Taliban to fight the Russians. Why weren’t any of our aircraft (military or civilian) ever shot down by them? The Taliban had thousands of Stingers. Because the batteries went dead and the Taliban couldn’t get replacements. We’ll be in the same boat – lots of fancy weapons and no spare parts to keep them operational.
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 5:20pmWe have a potential enemy making our military equipment while our workers are unemployed. This makes sence to somebody.
Report Post »TMunson
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 6:01pmWell Said indeed!
Report Post »an irishgal
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 6:15pmAsk the chief….ask the dictator…American hater…ask em…
Report Post »psadie
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 6:38pmAbsolutely!!! Who in the hell is letting these suppliers buy from a foreign country that hates us? WHY are these weapons and equipment not checked before distributing to our troops? Common sense says that our equipment should be made in the USA where we have controls. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THE STUPIDITY ALREADY; I JUST CAN’T TAKE IT ANYMORE.
Report Post »US-First
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 6:38pmDo you people not pay attention to news. It is because the production of these parts in the USA is not occurring #1. #2, if it did occur the cost would be too expensive for the DoD budget. #3 the DoD as ordered by congress began a supply line for off the shelf parts in new development projects and current maintenance. The idea is to significantly decrease the cost of parts by developing technology using off the shelf components wherever possible. All DoD contractors follow this rule in new development projects since 2008. Example, the USAF F-22 has no off the shelf components. It was designed from the ground up with custom hardware and software. That is why it cost so much to build and operate. The new F-35 that supposedly will be replacing strike aircraft for all branches of the military is developed with a significant amount of off the shelf components, making it quite cheap to produce and maintain comparatively.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 7:34pmGee! What a surprise! Who could’ve predicted this?
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 7:38pm…and this is a surprise to who..?
Report Post »WeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges03
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 7:54pm“The U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee has found that counterfeit electronic parts are finding their way into the U.S. military supply chain at an alarming rate.”
Don’t be alarmed. All is proceeding as planned … by Progressives (communists) in Congress, the White House, and the Judiciary.
Report Post »Go back to sleep, America.
Clara88
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 8:07pmPoor Bari Shabazz, A Fugitive At Large. Of Course He’s Got To Hide Out As Barack Obama!
by Martha Trowbridge
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And while you’re at it, run for Illinois State Senator. Run for United States Senator.
Run for President, even!
The point is, young man: RUN!!
You know how racist the police are. Daddy Malcolm said so.
If you can stand it, here’s the scoop:
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Report Post »M 4 Colt
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 8:30pmGee this is nothing NEW!! Aviation and Aerospace weekly magazine has been running story’s about this BIG PROBLEM for YEARS!!! So my question is WERE HAS CONGRESS BEEN while this magazine was reporting on this problem. I for one agree that ALL command and control electronics that our military relays on NEEDS TO BE MADE in this country from start to finish. The Chinese will copy and steal anything they can get there hands on and to have our most important military systems using parts that are made in China is just a disaster waiting to happen. I read in the magazine that our military tech guys were finding strange circuits on some of the military chips that they are getting from China and have no idea what they are for. Kind of makes you wonder if that extra circuit is not some kind of auto destruct device that the Chinese could use against our Navy when we go to war with them in the South China Sea and if you don‘t know what’s happening with China and our Allies in the South China Sea you had better do some research because we will be fighting a war with then over it soon.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 8:45pmWell said. It’s real stupid. Our critical info systems should not be on the net either. Bozo’s through and through.
Report Post »Thewayiseeit
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 9:18pmThis is what happens to a Nation, when it’s Government
Report Post »sees fit to promote those who make Government prosper,
instead of promoting prosperity through the strength of the Nation.
Joe Bonham
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 9:46pmMaking every single piece of hardware we use in the USA would be a logistical nightmare, not something that could be done in a day, or even a decade. Just to name one example, our new 777 howitzers are German.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 11:07pmNearly every electronic component in Marine and Navy aircraft if made by contractors in Taiwan. That is the fact and truth of the matter. We also pay thousands (I’ve seen refurbished comm/nav gear at >$52,000 ) for replacement parts due to the Navy’s repair protocols. Even when a Marine or Sailor knows how to repair a $10,000 item for the cost of a few resistors and solder, it is often written in the “pub” that that particular repair must be made at depot level (aka, manufacturer). Also, when we repair night vision goggles we throw away the defective intensifier tubes. These “defective tubes” are often only defective due to small dark spots on the phosphor screen caused by lasers, dust inside, or just wear out. These tubes could be sold to the public for >$250 a piece along with a monocular tube and lenses for about $100 and we could be supplying the public (especially those along the border) with effective night vision capability and saving the military money at the same time.
Under the current economic system though (keynesian BS) I had to sit and watch Marines get commended on their performance. I.E. Finding something to spend the leftover $50,000 from our yearly budget so that funding doesn’t get cut in the future.
Our officers are training people to spend your money frivolously just so they can keep their extra funding from year to year. Think I’m wrong? Most officers are products of the liberal education system, enlisted, not so much.
Report Post »colonial10
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 11:16pmOur decision makers are pathetic. This is so ironic. Defense contracting with the enemy. The idea was a failure when it first originated in some idiots mind. I hope they are proud of themselves. I bet you anything the Chinese and other countries have sold us parts that can be tracked by their military. I feel like the leaders in the White House dress up in teletubbies outfits and twirl around until they fall down giggling instead of running our country right.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 11:36pm@pamela kay
Report Post »Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:43pm
I couldn’t agree more. This is unbelievable. How long have we been using these? Who decided to get these from China? Who is responsible? This is a big deal and we need the answers.
***
The fools like the paulbots, and ows, & libs who constantly COMPLAIN ABOUT OUR MILITARY/INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE; they’ve been slashing the DOD BUDGET FOR YEARS AND TELLING THEM THEY NEED TO DO MORE WITH LESS! Most of the time, our military use their own money to buy ammo for firing range practice because it’s not in the BUDGET! REMEMBER THE “SUPER COMMITTEE? RAND PAUL SAID DEMS WALKED OUT OF COMMITTEE MEETINGS TODAY BECAUSE IF THEY DON’T GET AN AGREEMENT IN THE NEXT WEEK & 1/2 THE PENTAGON’S BUDGET IS GUTTED!” Thanks boehner & cantor, (no caps no respect) THAT’S JUST THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE MADE YOU MAJORITY LEADERS FOR!!!!
By the way: MILITARY FAMILY MEMBER SAYS CHINA PROVOKES OUR NAVY DAILY TRYING TO START SOMETHING!!! {Can we count on our weapons to work if they succeed???}
****Resign or be impeached!**** Support the Vet’s Call to Action Friday in DC, Washington Monument
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Mil Mom
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 11:43pm@MomaGrisley2
Report Post »Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:56pm
It used to be prior to the CLINTON ADMINISTRATION, all Department of Defense contracts for armed forces had to use US made parts ONLY. This changed and now we are at risk and have no jobs
*****
william jefferson clinton, “I LOATHE THE MILITARY…” in a letter to his Arkansas recruiter, before he dodged the draft! Remember that one? Is that change an accident? “Impeach hillary, bo, czars, entire administration, all appointees, AND THEN INVESTIGATE FOR COMMUNISTS, NAZIS AND OTHER SUBVERSIVES IN OUR GOVERNMENT!! It’s in the Declaration, HAVE YOU READ IT? THEY’RE GUILTY OF TREASON!
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Mil Mom
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 11:58pm@psadie
Report Post »Posted on November 9, 2011 at 6:38pm
Absolutely!!! Who in the hell is letting these suppliers buy from a foreign country that hates us? WHY are these weapons and equipment not checked before distributing to our troops? Common sense says that our equipment should be made in the USA where we have controls. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THE STUPIDITY ALREADY; I JUST CAN’T TAKE IT ANYMORE.
****
AND WHY WAS A LIFE SIZE PORTRAIT OF MAO ON A SKYSCRAPPER IN MANHATTEN DURING THE WEEK OF THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE COMMUNIST CHINESE REVOLUTION?
Anybody got any ideas? …Anyone?… Come on venture a guess at WHO THIS ADMINISTRATION’S BEEN BEGGING TO KEEP BUYING OUR BONDS? *WAKE UP AMERICA!!!” Every cent of our deficit, is more of our country they own! THEY DON’T HAVE TO DEFEAT US MILITARILY, BUT IF OUR MILITARY INSISTS THEY’VE GOT THAT COVERED TOO!!!!
IMPEACH & INVESTIGATE!**** Friday, meet at the Monument at 6am *Rally to begin 8am We can’t wait til 2012 http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/forum/topics/just-this-minute-launched-a-declaration-to-restore-the-constituti
chickster
Posted on November 10, 2011 at 6:20amYou can thank William Clinton.
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on November 10, 2011 at 9:52am.
Some lobbyist bribed some congressman,
and said congressman put an earmark in for our soldiers to be sold out.
That’s how it happened.
Those units weren’t made by GE, were they?
Report Post »netjet
Posted on November 10, 2011 at 3:22pmThis is not just this administration. I worked at a full depot for awhile where crypto equipment was repaired. This circuitry goes into many military items. Our parts come from all over the place-it was not like that all the time but even before the last three administrations the DoD started to LoBall & privatize. Contracts are nothing more than $$ signs or political favors. Our enemies see a weakness & are just capitalizing on our ignorance. The loser is the US soldier. The temporary winner is a politician, donor and/or voting lobby. I tested every part before I used it–not everyone does. EOS.
Report Post »Joe Bonham
Posted on November 10, 2011 at 8:32pmIt would be virtually impossible to manufacture every piece of equipment I and others would use in the military. And even if we decided to do that – it would take decades to build the facilities.
Just to name one example – the 777, our latest lightweight howitzer, is German.
Report Post »TRILO
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:04pmWe outsource our military defense systems and parts to our enemy and then we are dazed and confused when we get defective parts. Is this any surprise? I am pretty much speechless at the extreme level of incompetance at every level of this government. Republicans and Democrats alike have allowed this to happen.
Report Post »Bill Rowland
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 4:12pmWe ask these young men to place themselves in harms way and then give them inferior equipment.
Our government is complaining about the cost of the military and threatening to cut the pay and benefits, Obama wants them to buy their own Medical Insurance. They want to cut the benefits and pay of the retirees and take away the medical care we were promised. The administration does not care about these young men or us old soldiers.
OMG
Report Post »In detroit
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:04pmI know what il do !!!! Let my enemy make my military parts , that was some deep thinking way to go again !!!! D.C.
Report Post »A MERICAN
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:03pm“The U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee has found that counterfeit electronic parts are finding their way into the U.S. military supply chain at an alarming rate”.
I’M SHOCKED, SHOCKED I TELL YOU!
Report Post »Iamnotanumber
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:03pmAfter all the cyber-attacks we have endured from that part of the world how is using their crappy quality gear in our multimillion dollar military munitions and vehicle in any way a good idea!!!!!!!?????
Report Post »2seekthetruth
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:01pmMy comment on the last sentence to this story, “Ya Think!”
Report Post »rl
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:01pmShould not be too hard to trace where it came from…. But depending on whoes brother in law imported it will determin what if anything is done about it. And with onama in charge NOTHING will be done anyway…..
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:13pmIf that isn’t the truth ….Sorry so freaking sick of what we have become today …You can just hear it …O …he or she has a great job for a company that supplies high tech (for the sake of the analogy) the army ..Really and they actually build what .or do they just assemble a bunch of crap imported parts .Sort of like the wacky chief yesterday or a desperate Bravo housewife ..They all have a line of some crap ..But actually make nothing…Modern age geniuses
Report Post »NOBALONEY
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:01pmDefective electoronics from Communist China is another attack on the United States. They are not our friends, President Obama.
Report Post »mazakman
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:07pmI could not agree more.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:30pmNot ours but they are Obama’s and he will use them to help him bring us down
Report Post »grudgywoof
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:00pmAny vendor who supplies our military with fake or bad devices from China when they are supposed to us US made or approved parts should be immediately suspended from supplying our military ever again. Plus they should be prosecuted for fraud and put in prison……Totally unacceptable. Bet they don’t do squat about it and this is a very serious issues and compromise national security. Not surprised.
Report Post »Roberttsf
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:21pmProblem is once you bar Mr. X and his company X solutions a “vendor” from supplying subcontractors building weapons etc. Mr. X shutters his doors for a day, reopens under a new company Y solutions incorporated under his wife’s name and continues doing business. Its impossible to stop.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on November 10, 2011 at 12:12am@grudgywoof
Report Post »Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:00pm
Any vendor who supplies our military with fake or bad devices from China when they are supposed to us US made or approved parts should be immediately suspended from supplying our military ever again. Plus they should be prosecuted for fraud and put in prison……Totally unacceptable. Bet they don’t do squat about it and this is a very serious issues and compromise national security. Not surprised
*****
That’s the PROBLEM….IT USED TO BE CALLED “TREASON”!!! NOW IT’S CALLED “FRAUD”!!!
SgtB
Posted on November 10, 2011 at 11:09pm@ MILMOM,
You are obviously an overbearing nut job. The fact is that very few electronic components are made in the US anymore. Remember the scene from the movie where the Russian cosmonaut starts beating on equipment and shouts “Russian components, American components… ALL MADE IN TAIWAN!” Well, that wasn’t a joke. As a military aviation communication and navigation repair technician, I can tell you that 90% of our gear is made with parts from taiwan. That that isn’t made from such parts, was made in USA circa 1965 and most of those parts are obsolete and out of use.
If people are getting bad parts, then that is what quality control should be used for.
And your offensive language concerning Ron Paul supporters is unbecoming. Especially when you claim it is people like me who have slashed the military’s budget. That is a load of horse crap. Have you ever been to an awards ceremony and seen a fellow NCO get a commendation for spending more money than was required just so that the squadron would not lose funding the next year? Do you really think it is Libertarians who are playing these kind of economic games of chicken in freight trains? It isn’t in case you were thinking of any other answer. It is people from both sides of the isle who wish to change the world to their own utopian view that demoralize and bankrupt this country daily.
I’m glad your not my mom. Now she’s a real military mom.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:00pmSomeone hates America – # 1. Someone is teaching their people to speak English who hate America – #2. Someone is making really funny looking handcuffs that one can not escape from – #3.
Report Post »Micmac
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:00pmOur government at its best. I have about 50 questions I could ask. Like…why in the hell do we buy military parts fron China to begin with?
NoBama 2012
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alrunner58
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:00pmThey should of listen to the American people. We seem to know more than our government, but nothing new there.
Report Post »johnnyrockett
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:00pmSeriously??? “Made in China ” you dumb asses! Uhg! You guys are spose to be smart!
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 2:59pmThis government is FUBAR why are we buying anything from red China,especially anything to do with our military?
Report Post »Sjah
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 2:59pmIt’s like if Japan in WWII was making our ships and air planes. What they don’t work? how about that.
Report Post »htnkd5
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 2:58pmThis is what happens when you have other countries who do not believe in America make our parts- they are keeping track of where there parts are at for future attacks!
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:12pmExactly. Our poor military is being weakened in every conceivable way.
May God bless and protect our troops! They surely need His blessing because this country‘s leadership certainly isn’t look out for them.
Report Post »atechgeek
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 2:58pmNo Friends .. how dumb is it to outsource our military. Lock and load folks … it’s coming.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on November 10, 2011 at 12:23am@atechgeek
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No Friends .. how dumb is it to outsource our military. Lock and load folks … it’s coming
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BUT FIRST….Leave your weapon at home, AND SHOW UP BY THE MILLIONS FRIDAY AT THE VETERANS RALLY FOR IMPEACHMENT! IF MILLIONS SHOW UP, THOSE WHO’VE TAKEN AN OATH TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION against ALL enemies FOREIGN A*N*D DOMESTIC, may be emboldened TO HONOR THAT OATH AND ACTUALLY IMPEACH ALL THESE TREASONOUS FOOLS! (Remember EVEN the dems in the senate ARE RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION AND THEY CAN’T BE LIED TO IF MILLIONS SHOW UP TO DEMAND IT!!!
http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/forum/topics/just-this-minute-launched-a-declaration-to-restore-the-constituti
CatB
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 2:57pmI’m sure it was just a “mistake” on China’s part .. surely they would not want to harm the USA. How about we start making and buying parts made in America?
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:00pmBecause it costs too much to make things here. That’s why everything is outsourced overseas.
Report Post »Wolfpack Conservative
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:42pmWell, we could if not for the unions
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 4:00pmlol right. blame it solely on unions. Read into the history of unions and find out why they even developed.
Besides, cost of living here is just higher than elsewhere in the world and people require more pay. You can’t blame unions as though without unions people could live off of 50 dollars a week. Moron.
Report Post »Worldsapart
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 8:18pmPlus Made in America is usually crap.
Chevy, GM, Chrysler anyone?
Vizio, RCA.
Sorry, I can’t think of anymore examples…are there any?
Report Post »chershaw8
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 2:57pmWhy are we buying Chinese made parts for our military??????!!!!!!!! Now I know we’re already commies.
Report Post »db321
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:03pmMy question exactly? WTF! Next your going to tell us that we get our Aircraft parts from the Taliban.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:23pmThat hurt!
Report Post »Wolfpack Conservative
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:44pmOne word: Unions
Report Post »ares338
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 2:56pmSimple solution……BUY AMERICAN!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Obama Snake Oil Co
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 2:56pmSince Holder did Fast and Furious, is this Obamas Junk in the Trunk plan? Is he allowing the Chinese access to provide electronics to catch the bad guys or does he thinks this will help their economy? So many questions.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 2:56pmPlease bring our factories back to the old U.S.A..
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:29pmI agree, but sadly the unions would just get control, make factory killing demands, and the factories would all close down again.
Report Post »Wolfpack Conservative
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:45pmWell in order to do that, we’ve gotta get the unions out of the factories
Report Post »BONETRAUMA
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 2:54pmDon’t purchase anything from CHINA
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:52pmThat is practically impossible to do these days.
Report Post »Balpit
Posted on November 10, 2011 at 2:14pmSadly, it’s true. I went to the toy section of a store, and EVERYTHING bore the “Made in China” stamp. Even, ironically, Captain America merchandise. The only exceptions were the video games, either made in Japan or Mexico. In other stores, I’ve seen candies bearing the stamp “Made Responsibly in China”. What does that mean? No sweatshops? No toxic ingredients?
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 2:53pmPut the contractors & who ever is proved involved in this act of treason in jail .
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:02pmIt’s not treason. It’s capitalism on the part of the Americans involved and you love capitalism, right?
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on November 10, 2011 at 12:38am@Bible Quotin‘ Science Fearin’ Conservative American
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It’s not treason. It’s capitalism on the part of the Americans involved and you love capitalism, right?
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No capitalism is “I buy some land, decide to start a company, do the research figure out what I want to make, how to make it, the equipment I’ll need to make it, manage to find financing, (usually from investors who expect to get their money back over time) Decide what price I can charge for my product to be able to reasonably make a profit, then figure out how many people at what wage I can afford to hire to help me make my product!”
What we have in America now is, “I want to start a business, I investigate where I can start it with the least expensive hurdles to start up, pay for people to do environmental impact studies, pay for people to shepherd my business through ALL THE REGULATIONS AND RED TAPE, hire a compliance officer to research ALL THE PERMITS I NEED, FIGURE OUT I DIDN’T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO START A BUSINESS ANYWAY, AND LET SOMEONE ELSE DO IT, OR ..APPLY FOR GOVERNMENT LOANS AND GRANTS! What’s my product, GOTTA BE GREEN SOMETHING TO GET THE LOANS & GRANTS. THEN IT DOESN‘T MATTER WHAT I’M MAKING BO & JOE CAN TOUT IT AT THEIR NEXT PHOTO OP!
TRUTHSENSE
Posted on November 10, 2011 at 1:33pmNo, it is not capitalism to intentionally sell inferior parts that put our country and service men and women at risk BIBLE QUOTING, SCIENCE FEARING BLA BLA BLA. It is fraud and at least borders on treason.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 2:53pmNow, they listen!
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