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Majority of American Public Rejects Cuts to Medicare and Social Security

WASHINGTON (The Blaze/AP) — They’re not buying it. Most Americans say they don’t believe Medicare has to be cut to balance the federal budget, and ditto for Social Security, a new poll shows.

The Associated Press-GfK poll suggests that arguments for overhauling the massive benefit programs to pare government debt have failed to sway the public. The debate is unlikely to be resolved before next year’s elections for president and Congress. Last week, AOL News explored whether making changes to Social Security is politically possible:

Americans worry about the future of the retirement safety net, the poll found, and 3 out of 5 say the two programs are vital to their basic financial security as they age. That helps explain why the Republican Medicare privatization plan flopped, and why President Barack Obama‘s Medicare cuts to finance his health care law contributed to Democrats losing control of the House in last year’s elections.

Medicare seems to be turning into the new third rail of politics.

“I’m pretty confident Medicare will be there, because there would be a rebellion among voters,” said Nicholas Read, 67, a retired teacher who lives near Buffalo, N.Y. “Republicans only got a hint of that this year. They got burned. They touched the hot stove.”

Combined, Social Security and Medicare account for about a third of government spending, a share that will only grow. Economic experts say the cost of retirement programs for an aging society is the most serious budget problem facing the nation. The trustees who oversee Social Security and Medicare recently warned the programs are “not sustainable” over the long run under current financing.

Nearly every solution for Social Security is politically toxic, because the choices involve cutting benefits or raising taxes. Medicare is even harder to fix because the cost of modern medicine is going up faster than the overall cost of living, outpacing economic growth as well as tax revenues.

“Medicare is an incredibly complex area,” said former Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., who used to chair the Budget Committee. “It’s a matrix that is almost incomprehensible. Unlike Social Security, which has four or five moving parts, Medicare has hundreds of thousands. There is no single approach to Medicare, whereas with Social Security everyone knows where the problem is.”

That’s not what the public sees, however.

“It’s more a matter of bungling, and lack of oversight, and waste and fraud, and padding of the bureaucracy,” said Carolyn Rodgers, who lives near Memphis, Tenn., and is still working as a legal assistant at 74. “There is no reason why even Medicare, if it had been handled right, couldn’t have been solvent.”

In the poll, 54 percent said it’s possible to balance the budget without cutting spending for Medicare, and 59 percent said the same about Social Security.

Taking both programs together, 48 percent said the government could balance the budget without cutting either one. Democrats and political independents were far more likely than Republicans to say that neither program will have to be cut.

Overall, 70 percent in the poll said Social Security is “extremely” or “very” important to their financial security in retirement, and 72 percent said so for Medicare. Sixty-two percent said that both programs are extremely or very important.

The poll found a deep current of pessimism about the future of Social Security and Medicare. As much as Americans say the programs are indispensable, only 35 percent say it’s extremely or very likely that Social Security will be there to pay benefits through their entire retirement. For Medicare, it was 36 percent.

Again, there’s a sharp difference between what the public believes and what experts say. Most experts say the programs will be there for generations to come. But they may look very different than they do today, and Americans should take note.

“Do they have a basis for worrying that these programs are going to pay them much less than they’re currently promising?” asked economist Charles Blahous. “Yes, absolutely. Do they have a basis for being concerned that the programs may have to be structurally changed in order to survive? The answer to that is yes, too.” A trustee of Social Security and Medicare, Blahous served as an economic adviser to President George W. Bush.

Republican lawmakers don’t inspire much confidence right now when it comes to dealing with retirement programs, the poll found. Democrats have the advantage as the party more trusted to do a better job handling Social Security by 52 percent to 34 percent, and Medicare by 54 percent to 33 percent. Often, but not always, major revisions have been accomplished through bipartisan compromise.

Sue DeSantis, 61, a store clerk from West Milton, Ohio, worries she won’t be able to rely on either program. Both are important to her well-being, but she thinks changes are inevitable. And she has little confidence in lawmakers.

“I don’t put my faith in politicians, and I don’t put my faith in the government,” said DeSantis. “I’m a Christian. I believe that God will take care of me. That doesn’t mean I should be foolish and not look at anything, but I don’t believe that the politicians are necessarily going to do the best for the common ordinary person like myself.”

Earlier today, FOX News covered expenditures vs. tax revenue received for both Social Security and Medicare:

Comments (38)

  • vaughan
    Posted on May 25, 2011 at 2:10pm

    I have been trying to convince anyone who would listen (elected officials and friends) for the past 30 years to PHASE OUT Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and Welfare in general. If it had been done 30 years ago we wouldn’t have this trouble…also if the Congress had kept its greedy hands off it and not put it into the General Funds we would not be in such a mess. I know we can’t wretch it out of the hands that have become dependent on it but it needs to be address now not later. That’s why I suggested Phasing it out… I would hope that others are not selfish enough to want these programs at the expense of our grandchildren.

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  • bharris0
    Posted on May 25, 2011 at 12:52pm

    Sounds like most of the folks that took part in this poll are idiots.

    They will either accept the necessary cuts to save these unconstitutional programs or they go bankrupt and have absolutely NOTHING to help them.

    They can’t have their cake and eat it too. There literally isn’t enough wealth on the planet to fund these social programs in their entirety.

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  • LukeAppling
    Posted on May 25, 2011 at 10:22am

    Any right thinking person realizes the unsustainable path the democrats have led us to-$14,300,000,000,000 in debt. We cannot pay our bills, our dollar is being reduced to where your savings and investment will be worth 20% of their purchased value just like our houses and inflation is rampant milk is 40% higher today than two months, gas is 80% higher than when Obama was elected, yogurt increased in price by 25% this week. when Obama’s number crunchers tell us inflation is not a problem it is simply another Obama lie-like unemployment, or GM repaying their “loans” or Chrysler being out of debt, all lies told by a media that is complicit to Obama.
    If anyone watches or believes the following media sources you are being lied to: CNN, TNN, ABC,CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNBC, NPR, PBS, NYT, LATimes, Boston globe, Chicago Tribune, every Gannet Paper, Florida Today, USA Today, Huffington Post, Moveon.org .
    If you would watch or listen to FOX news for one day you would see how Fair and Balanced they are with both sides of every issue covered. Bill O’reilly was recently voted as“the most trusted source of news” on Television by a factor of 4-1 over the CBS, ABC, NBC and 10 to 1 over MSNBC I’ll bet yopur news source did not even cover this news since it makes them look bad, which is the same thing they do for Obama-if the story makes Obama look bad then ignore it or slant it. Without an honest media will have Socialism or Marxism the first thing that goes is the media.Wake up, pleas

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  • Eblaze44
    Posted on May 25, 2011 at 9:35am

    Wonder how they will like it when it’s totally gone.

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  • Chet Hempstead
    Posted on May 25, 2011 at 5:14am

    People would be more accepting of the need for these kinds of sacrifices if the politicians who demand them were also willing to raise taxes on the rich. Now I know that you have all been trained to think that we must never, ever do this because the rich people will punish us by destroying the economy even worse. The trouble with this is that people have noticed by now that they never rewarded us for cutting their taxes last time, they just spent ten years ten years making lots of jobs in other countries and none here.

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    • Eblaze44
      Posted on May 25, 2011 at 9:37am

      Hey Chet. suppose you raise the taxes on the rich (please define who is rich and how much more taxes they should pay than they do now) how much money do you think it would raise?

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  • Tepeyac
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 9:38pm

    SSI benefits should not come out of Social Security Funds… second the government should pay back all it borrowed from the fund. The cost of a Cadillac plan for BC/BS is around $1011 a month. With Medicare and full supplements..cost around $500. Does anyone see the difference. That’s the difference taxpayers have to make up. Cost of care does not go down when you go on medicare. Using a means tested plan, seniors are going to have to pony up to help cover the difference.Or start a national lottery.

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    • Tepeyac
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 9:40pm

      The lottery will save the seniors a trip to the casinos! LOL

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  • hud
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:45pm

    The Greatest Generation won WW2, and came home and voted for every Democrap who promised them a free ride. What’s so great about that? Ask Brokaw. Since both parties suck(but the repubs suck less) the future of the country lies in revolution to take the country back from the criminals in public office and jobs.The obvious fact is that the Constitution offers no remedy’s for a rogue president like Bozo, so changes must be made. In a rapidly changing world maybe an English type parliamentary government would based on our laws would be better at this time.

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  • tomloy
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 3:37pm

    Either medicare and social security will be cut by congress, or they will be cut by the government not having the money to pay benefits. Either way, its gonna happen.

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  • jawga61
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 1:13pm

    Stop supporting the whole world of losers,medicare and social security would not be broke. Cut the wages of the low life congress that do nothing but bicker back and forth and get absolutely nothing accomplished but suck our taxpayer money. Most of them aren’t worth the space let alone the air they breathe. I am a repub but I still haven’t forgot how the repubs really took the Americans for a ride when Bush was in. Them are the ones that need booted out and everytime I get a chance I will help get them out.

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  • 1stzookid
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 10:29am

    BTW, maybe they should pay back the $2.7 trillion they “borrowed” from Social Security first. You never hear politicians talk about this….. and it is THIEF! The Federal Government STOLE IT!!
    If they want to get serious about real cuts and get real like they should, they will propose BIG TIME CUTS in WASHINGTON, Foreign Aide, illegal immigrant aide, Congressional salaries, other vote buying programs, Federal employment, Federal salaries, medicare, , Shut down Departments ie. EPA, DEPT. of EDUCATION, WELFARE, (not SS yet) etc., etc. They want to impoverish ordinary citizens and keep everything nice and rich in Washington. They think they are better than 90% of Americans and they own you.

    This is exactly how I think about Federal cuts and I emailed my Federal representatives this same message. The responses I received were a bunch of political garbage. My mom is on SS and we believe that when the fed. gov. cuts all it can then and only then should the poorest in America, our seniors, SS be cut. My mom said that then she would be willing to take l

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  • 1stzookid
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 10:15am

    I think the politicians are feeding the American people more crap…… The older citizens I know are willing to do what has to be done to save America, AFTER Washington DC Politicians do the honorable thing and make all cuts that should be made. The POLITICIANS are more worried about getting re-elected than doing what is Honorable, Ethical, and making and doing the hard votes that may lead to their losing their seats in congress, both Dems and Reps. are GUILTY!!, if they were TRUE Patriots getting re-elected would not matter so much. I am feed-up hearing them. It has gotten where they make me SICK! I am thinking of voting for people or anyone who is as far removed from the parties, has never been in politics.

    It is the POLITICIANS, that tell one thing then do another, that tell us that we have to elect people with experience. How about on the job training? Representatives were elected for 100s of years based on their character and what they believed not on experience. And this is the way I will be voting, this is what I am looking for, that is why right now as the field stands I am looking at Herman Cain. We have to elect a totally new breed of people such as the ones that founded America.

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  • Liberalismsamentaldisorder
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 10:05am

    This is a perfect illustration as to why polls need to be banned. What did we learn here? NOTHING. Who did you poll? Ask any of the people that were polled if they know a single thing about how social security, medicare, medicaid or what any part of our entitlement society actually costs, you’ll get answers about who won American idol, or they’ll know what Snookie and the Sitch are up to. You should have to take a test before you’re allowed to vote.

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  • flsnipe
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 9:05am

    I would like to see the demographics of that poll. Wait till its all gone and they can’t free load anymore. Buy ammo

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  • ChevalierdeJohnstone
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 8:56am

    So what if a bunch of selfish idiots don’t want to cut an immoral program which destroys family cohesiveness and enslaves younger generations to pay for the excesses of the old? This ain’t a darn democracy. Stop yakking about “polls” and “focus groups” and implement a freaking solution. If the electorate hates it, well then you might not be re-elected. Tough tushy. This is why these United States need real leaders, not the pusillanimous eunuchs we have.

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    • JoeyBagaDonuts
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 9:03am

      Rolling over and letting the government steal more of your money is not acting like an American it’s acting like a commie.

      We had a good guy Donald Trump who was running on the platform of Reagan saying we are Americans and we can make this country rich again. He said we have no reason to give up S.S. and Medicare. But what happened, the right wing talk shows ate him alive. You never hear the left eating their own.

      I‘m sick of all these talk show guy’s, I stopped listening. All you hear is them talking about how the rich shouldn‘t have to pay taxes but it’s okay to take the working guy’s S.S. benefit’s away and unions suck, I’ve been conservative for years and the Republicans have won plenty elections but the Supreme court still has a slim conservative edge sometimes, the 2nd amendment is still under attack, abortion is still legal, and your kids still can’t pray in school. Why do I vote for them? They had the house, the Senate, and the Presidency all at once. What did they accomplish? Drugs for when I get old, and American companies having the right to go to every country but the USA to make all our stuff and sell it back here with no big time Tariffs. Who the F*** cares about s*** like that? Answer-THE POOR AND THE RICH certainly not the working guy who is suffering the most in our country today.

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  • Ramcharger
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 8:29am

    They are not asking the right people! You ask someone who lives on it and they wont like it. You ask a welfare mom about giving up her freebies and she wont like it. Ask those paying and have no chance of recieving even their principle back and they LIKE IT.

    BROKE IS BROKE. SPEND MORE THAN YOU TAKE IN AND YOU ARE BROKE. BORROWER IS THE SLAVE TO THE LENDER! THE US IS BANKRUPT, FINANCIALLY AND MORALLY. LIBERALISM IS CANCER.

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  • liedetector
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 8:28am

    Too many people get their news and form their opinions from the main stream media. They never spend one minute of time trying to find out the truth. This president and his administration are about destroying America as people who grew up in the forties and fifties knew it. Notice that I said knew. It has already changed drastically for the worse.
    Medicare and Social Security must be reformed in some manner, or future generations will be unable to live anything near “The American Dream”. When are you people going to wake up to the realities facing this nation? Do a little homework and find out the truth.

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  • Derfel Cadarn
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 8:17am

    Here again people only want to cut where it does not effect themselves. We can no longer afford to cater to special interest groups of any kind,to do so is un-American. The spending of ALL governments must be cut if this country wishes to survive,it is only right that spending be reduced equals amounts across the board as a start. After that the serious cutting must begin,including the possible eliminations of entire government depts. Until Americans are willing to equally contribute towards spending reductions there will be no light at the end of the tunnel. American love to declare their democracy,well democracy means equal for all,what part of that is difficult for these special interests. How many of you spend multiple times what you earn every year? Your government has done that for many decades now the piper requires payment,what would YOU be forced to do? We were all here when it happened and must ALL contribute at the end,there is no other choice. Ther are no such thing as special interests only Americans lets try acting like Americans And get the job done pushing it further into the future is NOT the answer. So ltet us stop whinin g,tighten our belts and move ahead,after that is the AMERICAN way.

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  • headbanger
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 8:08am

    MC and SS are only a piece of the pie that needs to be addressed. Federal employee benefits and salaries INCLUDING all Senators and Congressmen need to be cut to a level in line with the public sector.!!! Seriously go after all the waste and fraud in all the programs, not just pay it lip-service; this alone represents 100′s of BILLIONS of dollars that no-one seems to know anything about, because the pot has always been there and full to go back to. The pot aint full no more.Quit giving tax breaks for BILLIONS to the likes of GE.
    That’s only a start. the one truth in all of this is the comment by many in DC that we do not have a problem with the income, its the spending that is totally out of control. The one answer that DC always has to fix their problem is to raise taxes because there just isnt enough coming in….NOT TRUE.

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  • JoeyBagaDonuts
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 8:05am

    I paid into SS and Medicare for decades. If they want to cut it, give me my money back with all the accrued interes.t

    Let them cut all the other dam handouts and foreign aid. American workers are sick of being blamed for government spending out of control by the left and right.

    It’s not our fault the politicians stole from Social Security and Medicare. What gave them the right to steal our money for when we get old or disabled?

    Let’s go into the estates of all these politicians past and present who stole from S.S. and Medicare and take our money back.
    Yes I am a conservative and I vote in every election. I could not vote for a commie-lib Democrat, but I might not get my ass out to vote at all if the Republican platform is to tax me more by stealing what I paid into the S.S/Medicare. system.

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    • ChevalierdeJohnstone
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 9:09am

      JoeyBag,

      Unfortunately that’s not how entitlement programs work. You didn’t pay anything at all into a fund. There never was a fund, even before the USG ceased the legal fiction of pretending there was a fund. What happened was that your hard-earned money was taken from you and given to somebody else’s grandmother. Would you have chipped in to help out your own grandmother or your friend’s grandmother? My guess is, probably. But instead you weren’t given a choice. Your money was taken and given to complete strangers with no consideration of whether they had lived responsible lives or even needed the money. It was never a savings plan. Your money is gone one way or the other. When you collect entitlements, you participate in government-sponsored theft from somebody else’s grandchild. My guess is you are reasonably responsible in how you spend your stolen cash. Can you say the same about the former crack whore? The retired union boss? The corporate raider?

      The fact is that the Boomer generation is primarily responsible for destroying the U.S. economy. It happened on their watch. They were supposed to be the experienced, responsible elders. Rather than sit around and steal money from the younger generations, Boomers need to collectively man up and take some responsibility, many of them for the first time in their lives.

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    • JoeyBagaDonuts
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 10:35am

      @ ChevalierdeJohnstone
      You sound like a good person, but if someone robs me and spent my money I still want it back.

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  • JoeyBagaDonuts
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 8:03am

    I paid into SS and Medicare for decades. If they want to cut it, give me my money back with all the accrued interes.t

    Let them cut all the other dam handouts and foreign aid. American workers are sick of being blamed for government spending out of control by the left and right.

    It’s not our fault the politicians stole from Social Security and Medicare. What gave them the right to steal our money for when we get old or disabled?

    Let’s go into the estates of all these politicians past and present who stole from S.S. and Medicare and take our money back.

    Yes I am a conservative and I vote in every election. I could not vote for a commie-lib Democrat, but I might not get my ass out to vote at all if the Republican platform is to tax me more by stealing what I paid into the S.S/Medicare. system.

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    • PSALMS23
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 12:37pm

      Totally agree. I know some ways they could fix it without too much trouble..
      1. Why do they pay five wives off one persons ss?
      2. If a man and his wife allready have one ss check comeing in and also have a private pension, and the wife does’nt want to sign up when she comes of age, give them the choice without a penalty for not doing so. Then she can sign up when she needs it..
      3.Try getting rid of government programs that should belong to the states and the people, and start paying back the excess that they borrowed and blew. Cut this monster government down to there real jobs…
      I’m sure there are plenty of other things in there that could be fixed ! Everyone in the government say they want to fix it but none of them will owe up to the real problems or the real reason it is such a mess.
      In reality Social Security and Medicare are the only real intitlement programs,,,Welfare , Foodstamp and Medical are not intitlements, they are giveaways and we have so much of this going on with illegals, these are the things that are breaking us….A little thought for our government. Try being honest for once and use some simple common sense.

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  • GERATMO
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 7:35am

    @ POLWATCHER
    Even if we cut all other programs like you suggest and put all that money toward entitlement programs, it still wouldnt fill the pothole. I agree we need to cut government benifits and salaries along with many other things, but it wont fix the problem. The only fix is serious cuts and reform.

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  • GERATMO
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 7:28am

    If people dont trust the government, then trust the math. Math doesnt lie. These programs are broke. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!

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  • GadsdenPatriot
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:17am

    If people can’t wake up, grow a moral compass and understand how entitlements (along with the rest of government spending)are dragging the country’s freedoms and liberties that once made it great into a government controlled socialist/communist nightmare then perhaps they don’t deserve it.

    “people willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both” –Benjamin Franklin

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  • micklaslavic
    Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:12am

    I’d love to see the demographic data for the poll. I can’t imagine they have the collective opinion of the kids in college getting ready to foot the bills for services they have been told not to count on for them selves by those in power and their peers receiving the checks. No one polled any of us in our 40‘s that have at least in my case and my wife’s piled in several hundreds of thousands already between the two…and told to expect means testing. By now most kids are quite aware of the burden they are inheriting and are curious why they are getting bill as am I. They are getting a raw deal from the ruling class when you consider the bleak future for career opportunities with our ridiculous corp tax rate driving corporations overseas along with their jobs. Increased competition from foreign students for spots in our best schools with the tuition sky rocketing while our college funds have tanked and more states giving illegals in state tuition and taking even more seats away from deserving students that are guilty of being plan old American and worse suburban.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 4:40am

      “Again, there’s a sharp difference between what the public believes and what experts say. Most experts say the programs will be there for generations to come. But they may look very different than they do today, and Americans should take note.”

      I love AP “news!” :D I hope The Blaze is not responsible for this little paragraph of pure propaganda. How about: “…Even if the names of the programs don’t change, Americans should know that they will necessarily look very different than they do today.”

      And where is the difference in what the public believes and what the experts say? What a slimy pile of propaganda.

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 5:53am

      Why is it we don’t hear about any cuts in Washington salaries, employment, medicade, welfare, illegal immigrant aide, Congressional salaries, foreign aide, corporate welfare, other vote buying programs, etc., etc., etc. FOX news and the Repubs are suggesting that we keep all Washington employment, salaries, aide for illegal immigrants, Washington vote buying programs, foreign aide, etc at historic highs while cutting older citizens benefits which were paid for by the older citizens. BTW, maybe they should pay back the $2.7 trillion they “borrowed” from Social Security first.

      If they want to get serious about real cuts and get real support like they should, they will also propose bigtime cuts in Washington employment, salaries, foreign aide, medicade, welfare, etc., etc. They want to impoverish ordinary citizens and keep everything nice and rich in Washington.

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    • Jackers
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 6:06am

      While this government increases spending for Medicaid for millions of brand new “immigrants” whether here legally or not, they consider cutting spending for Medicare for tens of millions of Americans who have paid into it all of their lives…

      How about cutting spending on all politicians’ golden health care plans?

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 8:17am

      I agree national security, medicare and social securities shouldn’t be touched until all other government programs,and subsities have been cut or analized for efficency and necessity.
      And when it comes to cutting MEDICARE AND SS they should first cut every free loader from the system before cutting one cent of benefits from those who have paid their dues.

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    • Bum thrower
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 10:51am

      Need th emoney; well folks, gott pare down the size of the federal government; IN PLAIN ENGLISH lay off government workers. Do away with the DOE, EPA, Dept of ED; and the list goes on….the alternative is that those who are fortunate to have a job will pay 85% in taxes; all others are gonna be SOL………..how’s that “progressive ‘hope and change’ ” working out for you?

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on May 24, 2011 at 2:42pm

      SMITHCLAR3NC3:
      “When it comes to cutting MEDICARE AND SS they should first cut every free loader from the system before cutting one cent of benefits from those who have paid their dues.”
      Agreed, but isn’t it the case that a lot of people getting SS right now are getting far more out of it than they put in? Aren’t they free loaders too?

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    • tifosa
      Posted on May 25, 2011 at 3:03am

      Yep, thus NY26.

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