Male 11-Year-Old Put on Hormone Blockers Because ‘I’m a Girl’
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Before reaching puberty, this 11-year-old California boy began taking hormone blockers to “buy her some time to mature”. Yes, her. Right now, Thomas Lobel, or Tammy, believes he is a girl.
Tammy with her parents and older brother. (Photo via Daily Mail)
Her parents say they have known since she was three years old. CNN has more:
The 3-year-old had learned sign language because he had apraxia, a speech impediment that hindered his ability to talk. The toddler pointed to himself and signed, “I am a girl.”
“Oh look, he’s confused,” his parents said. Maybe he mixed up the signs for boy and girl. So they signed back. “No, no. Thomas is a boy.”
But the toddler shook his head. “I am a girl,” he signed back emphatically.
Her parents, Pauline Moreno and Debra Lobel, looked into hormone blockers when after at age 7 Tammy threatened to gender mutilate herself. When she’s “ready” she will decide if she wants to become a girl, in which case she’ll take female hormones. If she wants to become a man, she will just stop taking the blockers.
Watch CNN’s video report on children with gender identity disorder:
CNN continues with Dr. Kenneth Zucker of the Gender Identity Service in the Child, Youth, and Family Program and professor at the University of Toronto saying hormone blockers before 13 years is too early:
Zucker conducted a study following 109 boys who had gender identity disorder between the ages of 3 and 12. Researchers followed up at the mean age of 20 and found 12 percent of these boys continued to want to change genders.
“The vast majority of children lose their desire to be of the other gender later,” he said. “So what that means is that one should be very cautious in assuming say that a 6-year-old who has strong desire to be of the other gender will feel that way 10 years later.”
In terms of side effects from hormone blockers, Time reported several years ago that evidence showed the blockers caused infertility and could affect brain development. In a Q&A with Dr. Norman Spack a year after he helped open the first clinic in the U.S. to treat children in Boston, The Boston Globe reported him as saying that stopping puberty and then taking cross-hormones for a few years, will most likely cause irreversible infertility, which is a “heavy-duty conversation” when you’re talking to a 12-year-old. Buck Spack said to Time that they undergo serious evaluation before beginning treatment:
Kids undergo a battery of interview-based psychological tests to see if they meet the medically established criteria for gender-identity disorder. The clothing they wear, the way they style their hair and the type of toys they play with are assessed. Family members, teachers and primary-care doctors are consulted. After weighing all the evidence, an interdisciplinary team of doctors and psychologists determines the severity of the gender variation and whether to recommend the child for hormone blockers. But the final decision rests with the parents.
Dr. Norman Spack started a gender clinic that treats children in Boston in 2007. (Photo:Boston Globe / Erik Jacobs)
According to CNN, there are four gender clinics in the U.S. offer hormone therapy for children, located in Boston, Los Angeles, Seattle and San Francisco, but notes there are currently no statistics about how many children are taking gender medication.
[H/T Daily Mail]
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wiseworks
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:29amRomans 1:22-27
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
God said it, that settles it, regardless of what I believe. Confusion will be no excuse on judgment day.
Report Post »Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; SO THAT THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE:
Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:37amA fairy tale is not an argument.
Report Post »Trebuchet
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:46amCan you prove it’s a fairy tale? Oh and God just moved the cheese on science again by allowing a nuetrino to break the speed of light.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:02amI can’t prove God exists and more than I can prove that an Invisible Pink Unicorn does not exist. Think about that please.
Report Post »And as for science, people are fallible; science adjusts its views based on what’s observed.
Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:16ama law of physics did not change magically, a theory was just disproved.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:22amhey discord, I bet you believe in that racist atheist fairy tale of evolution don’t ya?
why don‘t you list he ’lower races’ your racist bloodthirsty god darwin refers to….
“The more civilized so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilised races throughout the world.” (Darwin, Charles R. [English naturalist and founder of the modern theory of evolution], “The Life of Charles Darwin”, [1902], Senate: London, 1995, reprint, p.64).
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:29amThe theory of evolution has, well evolved significantly since Mr. Darwin proposed the idea. All hypotheses have their flaws, extensive experimentation perfects the theory. What we know is that **** sapiens is **** sapiens; a person is a person. All sciences have their infancy, don’t base your ideas on that.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:30amIn other words, keep your research up to date and you‘ll find it’s not as bad as you think it is.
Report Post »Anything from as far back as 1902 is definitely primitive and flawed.
joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:34amit hasn’t changed much, all they did was try to glom onto some real science by adding in genetics with the synthesis in the 30s and 40s…but the racsim that is inherent in the theory is still there as Watson confirmed…
Watson is credited with discovering the double helix along with Maurice Wilkins and Francis Crick in 1962.
In the newspaper interview, he said there was no reason to think that races which had grown up in separate geographical locations should have evolved identically. He went on to say that although he hoped everyone was equal, “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true”.
pure evolutionary racism…..separate geogrpahical locations……admit it, the racism is why you love evolution so…
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:44amWhat the hell are you even on about?
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:47amI’m making you look stupid, and you’re too stupid to even know it…LOL
you libs aren’t nearly as clever as you think you are…sweetheart.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:50amI’m posting our conversations elsewhere to the amusement of many.
Report Post »Ciao.
joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:57amyou must be a masochist LOL
no surprise you had to run away!!!!
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:02amPeople (including myself) are wondering if you are serious; we think you’re a troll who knows better (no one can possibly be that as stupid as you seem), but considering you’re not too different from most of the people who post here I doubt it.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:05amoh I thought you were leaving…so you’re a liar as well…no surprise.
I’ve made you look seriously stupid…not that its very hard mind you.
and as far as these ‘people’ those voices in your head aren’t your friends….get back on your meds, and take off your tin-foil….
Report Post »trench99
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:24amAbsolutely disgusting!!! I can appreciate a doctor attempting to medically diagnose a disorder in the child, but frankly ( I mean no disrespect ) homosexuality is a neurological disorder. I am no doctor, but it is evident that by our very physical “structures” we are designed to be compatible with the opposite sex. This would be a different matter if the child actually were born gender neutral, but these two lesbian sickos should not be allowed to mutilate this poor kid.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:35amAnd people get excited when I claim that allowing homosexuals to adopt kis is absolutley evil.
we have normal little boy, who under the care of two lesbians decides all on his own that he is really a girl. Do you expect us to believe that?
This is sick beyond imagination.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:13amrangerp, ditto.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:26amThe problem is the parents. I’ve listened to parents say identical things: “My kid started telling us at age 3.“ ”By age 6-8, we put them on hormone blockers, because of what they’d been telling us for years.”
Hello parents, you are irresponsible fools. 3 year old children don’t have the reasoning capacity that an adult has. Their brains aren’t going to finish forming for more than a decade from their current age. If you are hyper-sensitive to stupid things your 3 year old tells you, and if you obsess over it, you will cause them to obsess over it.
If you then cater to the irrational statements of a toddler, then you are a moron. You are screwing up your child. I feel very sorry for the child.
ACLUHater
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:42amWhat a nasty family. Of course he is confused. Do the liberals need any more proof than this why two women cannot raise a child as well as a man and a woman?
Report Post »Timsincali
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:50amHE will smite the unclean and corrupt with violent fury. LORD hear our prayers.
Report Post »DanWesson455
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:35amSick Sick Sick Parents. This kid needs Christianity in his life. At the least he needs some real Old Testament learning. God How I hate how the publicize this C R A P!! His whole family needs a life…in Israel.
Report Post »DanWesson455
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:41amDr. Keith Ablow to Parents: Don’t Applaud For Chaz Bono!
Not said here but what I listened to on a O’Reilly interview was 50% of these hormone takers die for
their bodies can’t take the hormones.
Not everyone finds Chaz Bono’s appearance on Dancing with the Stars to be funny.
Referring to Bono’s presence on the show as “toxic,” the psychiatrist has written an editorial for Fox News which reads:
I advise parents to not allow their children to watch the episodes in which Chaz appears.
The last thing vulnerable children and adolescents need, as they wrestle with the normal process of establishing their identities, is to watch a captive crowd in a studio audience applaud on cue for someone whose search for an identity culminated with the removal of her breasts, the injection of steroids and, perhaps one day soon, the fashioning of a make-shift phallus to replace her ******.
Chaz Bono should not be applauded for asserting she is a man (and goes about trying to look like one) any more than a woman who believes she will be happier without arms, has them removed and then continues to assert that she was right all along—her self-concept was that of a double amputee. Now, all is well.
Chaz Bono should not be applauded any more than someone who, tragically, believes that his species, rather than gender, is what is amiss and asks a plastic surgeon to build him a tail of flesh harvested from his abdomen. If only a plastic surgeon would acquiesce, all would be we
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:51amjust thinking out loud here, but we have a little boy, who happens to have a hearing impairment. He is being raised by two lesbians, and not an actual father.
We all know that there is no way that these two lesbians would ever portray any sort of anti-male behavior or language to this little boy???
At the ripe old age of 3, he decides that he is not a boy, then threatens to mutilate himself sexually.
At the extreemily mature age of 6, were he is fully able to decide medical treatments that are life changing, gets to have hormone blockesrs administered.
This has to be about the sickest and sadest thing I have ever read on the blaze. My heart goes out for this poor fellow.
Thus the reason my girls are either home schooled, or in Christian School, where we know the teachers well. My kids will never be subjected to the evils of the lesbian and gay crowd.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:53amdid anyone happen to notice that his older brother wears nail polish?
the picture is a picture of sickness and evil. I can only imagine what these two kids go through.
Report Post »WSGAC
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 12:29pmLet’s hear from those who insist pedophilia is not related to homosexuality. Let’s hear them tell us that one is deviant abuse of a child, while the other occurs between two consenting adults. Let’s hear them tell us how a child is too young to make adult decisions.
Take a good long look at these two debauched adults promoting dysfunction in their prepubescent son, all so he can enter into the world of their own debauchery.
If the son decided that he was a one-armed boy, and therefore wanted his arm amputated, would the parents agree? Would the doctor? Of course not. But as we slouch toward Sodom, decisions for debauchery are considered natural and wholesome! Alas!
Disgusting debauched ogresses!
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 1:16pm@WSGAC
Very well stated.
I read much, and I post often. I get a little fired up on some of what I post about.
This article really bothered me. I read it late last night, and it literally made me sick to my stomach. laid in bed thinking about it, and wondering how in the world have we gone this far in America.
The MSM will not report on this one. I believe this to be just a drop in the bucket. Across the country, gays are now adopting children. I can only imagine the freakishness that these kid live in. These are not parents, they are indoctrinators. This is not a family, it is a freak show.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 1:18pmdo you have a penis and produce testosterone? which chromosome do you carry? x or y? THAT is what you are… you can think are something else, but, ultimately, your genes dictate your gender. not drugs.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 1:20pmalso, they did these gender studies with children in the 50′s. they could easily make boys think they are girls and girls think they are boys. look it up.
Report Post »Consentiondum
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 2:23pmUnfortunately this is a bit too young to be considering such things. 11 Years old is far too early for anyone to be condoning something as drastic as hormone blockers…. however, gender identity disorder is a very real thing and is nothing new. It is very hard to accurately diagnose, and the only truly conclusive way involves looking at the brain in an autopsy (something that cannot be done while the patient is alive, obviously).
Men and Women are different (despite what crazy liberals may tell you) and have different looking brains, postmortem studies of people with GID have in fact proven that some of them do indeed possess the brain of the opposite sex. Many live much happier and productive lives after receiving gender re-assignment surgery.
Diagnosis while the patient is alive in generally done through years of psychiatric care and therapy, and often requires the sign-off of several different doctors before surgery can be performed.
Again 11 is too young to be taking drastic steps! But, this is a real condition of the brain, and modern medical practice does allow for these people to live more comfortable lives… which is all any of us want really.
Like far too many things you attack what you do not understand or what does not feel comfortable for you. You make general assumptions about things and run wild with them screaming “sick” or “evil” but the fact of the matter is is that you don’t know.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 5:53pmNow those are some seriously effed up human beings, Holy frekkin’ Cow! Well I guess that just about puts and end to the “Nature or Nurture” debate. Mental illness’s are equally as contagious as physical ailments. Wow!
Report Post »Wayner
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 6:02pmSo then the family will be able to have a “real” 3 way!! This is probably what the lezzies want. No more batteries to buy.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 2:10amThese two lesbians are probably card-carrying man-haters. The poor kid has no male role model in his life, and therefore has nobody to model his behavior and tastes after.
We men do, after all, become our fathers.
Report Post »Tammy_Beth
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 4:02am@trench – with respect you make far too many assumptions in your comment. Simply because the body is designed by God (or nature as one believes) to function in a heterosexual manner is no evidence at all that a defect in the brain before birth (not unlike, for instance, autism) might cause a divergent outcome.
A great many people are born with birth defects – PHYSICAL defects – which produce a function, or lack of function, which is at odds with the natural design.None of them are rendered dis-respectable on that account.
Report Post »Tammy_Beth
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 4:27amRanger, & ACLUhater – I presume one of you can provide evidence that EVERY, or even MOST children raised by gay/lesbian parents demonstrates a divergent orientation or gender identity? Right?
Cause if not, your are obviously full of s*** to imply that this is the reason for this child’s condition.
@danwesson – Christianity? Really? Lets see – I was raised in Mississippi, in the 60‘s and 70’s, in church every Sunday with four god-fearing grandparents; saved at age nine; answered the call to the ministry at age 25; spent almost 20 years in that, again, faithfully attending church, tithing, and all the rest.
also, during the same time period – I became certain i should have been born female before the age of 8; I was bitterly ashamed and begged god to take it from me throughout my youth; I rededicated my life to God at age 22 in faith believing that God would heal me of my “bessting sin” and never let a day go by for the next 20 years without repenting again in tears pleading with god to please hurry and move his hand to take the curse from me.
After two decades of faithful service, unwavering faith, and heartfelt repentance – I was just as much trans as I was before I knew him. A truly transsexual person cannot “pray it away” because God doesn’t have a problem with it, men do. I’m waiting for folks to start repenting of judging their brothers and sisters where God has not spoken.
Report Post »Tammy_Beth
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 4:41amso many false claims!
“50% of these hormone takers die for their bodies can’t take the hormones.”
utter bull. it has no relationship in even the faintest way to anything remotely like a true fact.
“The last thing vulnerable children and adolescents need, as they wrestle with the normal process of establishing their identities, ”
Non trans kids do NOT “wrestle with their identity” in any way shape or form, they know intrinsically what they are. Which is, in fact, how we know that transsexualism is real and present from birth – because trans kids know intrinsically that they are NOT what their plumbing says they are. They too, do not “wrestle with it” – rather they wrestle with knowing how small minded hateful bigots will react if they tell anyone about it.
“did anyone happen to notice that his older brother wears nail polish? ”
Wait – what? how can there possibly be an older BROTHER when you have told us that two lesbians raising a child produce a child with a confused gender identity. Was this person actually born female?
Oh, and your implication that wearing nail polish is tragic is, in a word, hilarious. It’s a cultural fashion – having no more significant than, for instance, a Scottish kilt.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:22amI am happy for this little girl. It will save her a ton of future pain, and she is extremely lucky to have the support she needs. There’s not much in the world more painful and terrifying than having to constantly feel that you might not be who you know you are because other people are constantly telling you so. I am proud.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:16amyou’re sick…..this is a boy….get a clue.
Report Post »FranklinK
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:21amAllow me to borrow and slightly modify an often-seen entry on this website:
The horror of the liberal mind.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:45amStupidty and cruelty could not be better encapsulated in a paragraph than in yours.
This is not a littel girl. This is a little boy with emotional and/or mental problems. rather than supporting hisgetting help to deal with his problem you deny he has one and encourage his psychosis.
You, and this child’s family, are like a doctor encouraging a patients denial of his own cancer because it made him feel better. Imagine how he will feel when he’s at the hour of death.
What a putz.
Report Post »mecanic
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:27amyour a freak just like this thing.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:51amYou mean you’re.
Report Post »DAZ
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:00am@ Discord, I wish I had received your compassion when I was a little boy. Though I wasn’t “transgender” as this little boy obviously is, I was “Transmammal”. I new since I was five that I was born a male dog is a human boys body. I even told my parents using my doggy voice, but they didn’t understand me, so they forced me against my will to use human words. I explained that I wanted to be just like my adopted brother Fido. Fido inspired me to know who I really was inside. Unfortunately for me this was in the mid 1960′s, so I didn’t have Dr. Hastings to encourage my parents to just accept who I really was. Instead, my bigoted father sat me down and told me I wasn’t a doggy, but was actually a human boy. I was mad at him for several days, but soon thereafter realized he was correct, I wasn’t a doggy. The very next year, I knew that I was “born” a thief, with natural tendencies to steal from others, my parents put a stop to that too. Why wouldn’t they just let me be who I knew I was inside? Surprisingly, weeks later I realized I was actually a child, with a childlike imagination and id tendencies. That my parents were given to me to help me know good from bad, right from wrong, and fantasy from reality. If not for their closed mindedness, today I would a wonderful Doggy Larcenist. Curses!!
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:03amHilarious. Your point is moot, however.
Report Post »DAZ
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:44amDiscord, Why do you dismiss my feeling so readily? Do you only care for the plight of your chosen agenda, and not the hurt and fear of the mammally challenged.. Are you Mammalphobic. Why to you hate mammals so much?
Of course I realize the statements above are sophomoric, and should not be a part of an important conversation, which I encourage and welcome. Please do not dismiss my parallel scenario as “moot”, just because you do not have a logical argument to refute their congruity. This boy’s life is on a path of life long confusion and hopelessness, all sparked and fueled by ignorant and morally challenged adults. God, or if you prefer, Mother Nature, has made this little boy a boy in his physical form. Therefore he is a boy, period. If he “feels” he is a little girl, or a little doggy, he is just confused and immature in mind and thought. Of course if adults encourage a child to be a girl or doggy they will adapt to that personage, because children just want to please their parents, and command attention, that is what children do during their formative years. Remember, at birth we are all id driven (self preservation). Then as we mature through childhood, our love, kindness, morals, morays, self worth, etc are encouraged by those who teach us how to become a whole person. There is no distention between encouraging the boy to become a girl versus and doggy. They are both transformations from Nature’s original intent.
Report Post »selloursouls
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 2:17pmDaz, I am so sorry for the callousness of your parents. I too was a misunderstood child. I believed I could fly like superman and would grab the ladder and start heading for the roof. However, my mother in all her hatefulness told me I couldn’t fly and that I better get down or I was going to hurt myself. What did she know? Well, strangely enough she was right, I quickly learned the concept of gravity. However, I truly hope you have not been damaged by the lack of acceptance your parents showed you during your attempted transition to the dog that you were meant to be. Thank you for sharing your story with all of us. When will parents learn they don’t know anything?
Report Post »Tammy_Beth
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 4:56amDiscord is correct. the replies to discord post range from hilarious to nonsensical to bigoted. and all of them arise from profound ignorance of the subject to which they propose to speak.
Report Post »Socialism_Is_The_New_Black
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:19am“Oh look, he’s confused,” his parents said. Maybe he mixed up the signs for boy and girl. So they signed back. “No, no. Thomas is a boy.” —– REALLY? I smell delusion!
Report Post »booger71
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:51amExactly where in the Bible does it saythat smoking or drinking is a sin?
Report Post »jonny rock
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:53amYour body is a temple.
1 Corinthians 6:19-20, 1 Corinthians 3:16-17, 1 Corinthians 10:31
Report Post »bryonblackwell
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:18amActive gay Jews? How can one be an active Jew and be practicing in homosexual activities? Its against their religion just as it is in Christian religions that actually read the bible and don’t misinterpret it.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:24amHow can one read the bible and not misinterpret it?
It’s too ambiguous.
LibertarianLauren
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:29amHow can you be a practicing Christian and a smoker? I was for 7 years. Smoking is a sin, along with homosexuality and all others. The key is: do not distort the truth by believing some sins (usually, the one’s you enjoy) are not sins, but pray to God for deliverance.
Report Post »obama-mecca-me-sick
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:32amDo you think both parents being female had anything to do with his confusion???????????????????
Report Post »LibertarianLauren
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:35amYou can be a practicing homosexual and Jew the same way you can be a practicing Christian and an active smoker. A sin is a sin is a sin — and we all do it. THE KEY is to constantly strive for improvement and not distort the Truth by believing that some sins aren’t really sins.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:14am@LibertarianLauren smoking is a sin? where do you get this at?
Report Post »JanetFlorida
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 3:28pmOrthodox and Liberal Jews don’t believe the same things…..that’s why.
Report Post »Socialism_Is_The_New_Black
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:18amThe west coast really can fall off into the ocean already!
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:29amThere needs to be an exchange: Those who wish to leave CA and those who wish they lived there. Exchange jobs and like homes. I cannot imagine being conservative in CA with the constant liberal hammering, day in and day out.
Report Post »Vickie Dhaene
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 11:35amMy first thought. Only in California. This is so ………. lost.
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:05amOK, quoting from the article: “Her parents, Pauline Moreno and Debra Lobel. . . ” These are both feminine names. Both “parents” look to me to be women?
AN UNDERSTANDABLY CONFLICTED CHILD? By age three children understand “daddy and mommy” and understand that each has certain smells, sounds, behaviors and subconcious expressions that point to either male behaviors or female behaviors to a strong degree down to a much lesser degree.
Of course this BOY wants to be a GIRL, his two closest role models and love objects are FEMALE! Only his brother, really insignificant at this stage of life, is male, and according to how “feminized” that boy might be and/or act, naturally or through learning, he may be little to NO role model.
Get him into a family of a man and a woman as God put us together, who love him and are both good loving role models, and he may no longer need hormone shots!!! Or, maybe it’s too late for anything but prayer and counselling.
PS: Almost missed the NAIL POLISH on the older “brother’! Oy vey!
Maybe I’m not reading the article correctly. . .
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:35amI know plenty of heterosexual cisgender (means not trans) males who wear nail polish. Calm your ****.
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 1:08pmEspecially if it’s Goth polish!
Report Post »Nemo13
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:00amGay people should not have any kids around them. Nature is a well oiled machine when it runs properly: Man + Woman = Child = Normal family according to nature. The child immediately draws from both parents to create a normal personality 99.9% of the time. You start messing with that, you get stories like this.
Report Post »rfycom
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:06amhaha – I am smarter than you are. God created gay people. Accept it.
Report Post »shirtsbyeric
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:17amHow does believing in god make you smarter?
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:22amYou are right homosexuality is natures way of weeding out unwanted mental and genetic traits. Allowing children to be raised in such an enviroment only perpuates that which nature wants to eliminate. I mean if homos are right and they are born that way then nature is telling the world to stay away from them. By removing them from the breeding pool.
Report Post »NOV15
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:41amYour dumb. God did not create gays.
Report Post »JustJerry
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:32amAs someone who believes that homosexuality and transgender issues are not that big of a deal…this case makes even me suspect that there is more to the story.
Report Post »RavenGlenn
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:30am@ NOV15:
Really? Then what created them? Evolution? You can’t have it both ways. Either god made them that way or god doesn’t exist.
Either that or god is able to be wrong, which the bible says he cannot EVER be wrong. So…yeah…If he doesn’t want gay/lesbian/bi people around, then he screwed up, which totally invalidates the bible.
Report Post »The Catbird
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:59amSorry, these legal guardians are a snapshot of the abject moral poverty that has our Republic in its grip. And of course, because this is California, their child abuse is being celebrated rather than prosecuted. I don‘t mean to be such a downer but this will end with the boy’s suicide when he’s in his early to mid-twenties after a short tortured life of pain, confusion and mental anguish.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:33amCaused by people like you.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:18amno caused by sick evil twisted people like you
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:21amI don’t bully people based on their gender identity.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:23ambully people? giving someone hormones to change their OBVIOUS idenity IS BULLYING…
are there any liberals who aren’t brain dead?
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:37amBullying would be berating them for their choices. You have clearly never dealt with it. (which I find surprising..and yet not.)
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:41amno bullying is FORCING unnecessary drugs upon some child…the results are unknown…
these people hate this child obviously….its like having MENGELE for a parent….
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:48amIt would only be bullying if the child objected to it.
Report Post »How old are you, by the way?
You seem to be either senile or unable to reason like a rational adult.
joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:00amwhat an amazingly ignorant comment…you’re even dumber than the normal brain-dead liberal…
he’s a child…he‘s going to believe his parent if they tell him some drug is ’good’ for him whether it is or not…
its rather obvious you don’t have any kids…hopefully you never will….
Report Post »The Catbird
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 12:22pmPeople like me? Really?? The fact that I want this boy spared from chemical and physical castration and a life dependent on Pharma to maintain the ruse of feminity in support of someone’s pansexual adgenda makes me his tormenter?
The child possesses an XY pair, and male genitilia, ergo — Male. The child has been raised in a crypto-misandristic environment. He had no male parent (Remember when we used to call them Father?) to imprint upon. ergo — confusion/confliction.
Report Post »I’m a libertarian with a tough hide, tender heart and a clear mind. I’m driven bat-scat crazy by the PC-culture’s propensity to celebrate brokenness and wallow in dysfunction while decrying the means for healing and wholeness.
Git-R-Done
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 10:16pmDiscord, you’re one of those backward messed up Marxists who thinks that gender identity is artificial but homosexuality is normal.
Report Post »rfycom
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:58amI sure don’t support this, BUT you got male and female you got straight and gay and all in between. If you are not conformable with that take it up with God cause he created these people. It’s not my job to judge them, criticize them, harasses them, or deny them of their rights as a human being. It not a matter of faith with these people. Its the way they are wired from birth. I know these makes you believers go ape ****, but these are the facts.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:23amA good comment.
Report Post »FranklinK
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:29amDISCORD: any confused or harsh noise; dissonance
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:37amAs well as a My Little Pony villain.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:57amSICK!
Just hack his body up when he comes out of your womb, already! If you wanted a girl, you could have murdered this one before he was born, and tried again.
Or, you could have let God‘s plan for the child’s life proceed.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:19amwhat imaginary being? you mean darwin?
God is very real…as you’ll find out to your HORROR…
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:25amhow do you know sugar pie? did you ever see him, or touch him?
you only know about him via some book…its a fairy tale…he never existed….
Report Post »Peglegmorris
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:56amEeeewww….this is so sad. Make it stop.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:26amCover your eyes and go away.
Report Post »FranklinK
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:49amWhat a freak show! Allowing two carpet munchers to adopt and confuse a young boy should be a criminal offense.
Report Post »Servant Of YHVH
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:45amI just wonder if these people that work in these “gender clinics” are wasting their time in going to church and trying to show the world that they are “godly people. It won’t matter if they do or not because when their time comes, they will not like where they go for eternity. They can go to church every single day and it won’t do them a bit of good unless they change their ways, if they are going to a church and that church lets them then the church will pay as well. The Bible states that if someone is in a church and they insist on knowingly and freely doing ungodly things, then it is that church’s responsibility to kick them out of that church. If they do not remove them from that church then God says that He will remove Himself from that church and thereby that church becomes a “dead” church because He will not be there. It is truly a shame that so many people are making themselves an abomination towards God.
Report Post »prescotm
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:38amGOD does not make mistakes!!!!
Report Post »Hobbs57
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:20amI am studying to be a psychologist. I will tell you this, as it has always seemed people share intimate feelings with me, but every single gay person I have spoken with has had a sexual experience at some point that was unequivocally either perverted or there was a huge error in the age disposition of the two actors, meaning it was basically perverted rape. I has actually married a lesbian in the air force, I knew she was gay, we did it for the extra benefits, or so the story goes…. I was an active addict back at the time, so please cut me some slack. Anyways, I always felt with her that sex was acting as a drug acted for me, it served as an experience to get outside of one’s self. I have just started to learn about transgenders, which was difficult to process. IT is most certainly an illness inside. I Can’t imagine the environmental factors not being present at the onset of this condition. Which makes me wonder about the two moms here. The idea of gender at 3 is a bit early but possible. Still I suggest there is something more to this and that the child is confused. They should not be injecting hormones into any child for reasons such as these,. It is out right child abuse and the doctor prescribing this medicine should be sued for malpractice.
Report Post »GetRight
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:59amVery interesting, Hobbs57. Homosexuality used to be in the DSM. I do not know exactly what I believe about homosexuality, I just haven’t done the research and we have all been clouded with popular belief. I am a Christian and I know what the bible says, it is very clear. But what I do know is God loves each and every one of us the same he just hates the sin. We should not forget that and not judge others. This poor child is being abused! You should continue to study and research your theory, maybe you are on to something!
Report Post »Leader1776
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 12:02pmIn DSMIII and before homosexuality was considered a pathology. As the homosexual element within the APA grew they lobbied the committee responsible for writing the DSM to gradually downgrade this“pathology” to an almost normal status. Now the tables are turned. If you’re a heterosexual and believe homosexuality is NOT normal YOU have a pathology ………. homophobia.
This article is not a bible issue as much as it is a personal rights issue. You have two homosexuals foisting their agenda on a minor. The child is not capable of making a logical choice for himself, won’t for years and others are making the choice for him.
Another example where technology is ahead of man’s ability to use it wisely.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:16amA million squalling lesbians does NOT make it right!
Report Post »Leader1776
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 12:42pm@DISCORD
Report Post »People on the left such as yourself are not supposed to make value judgements as you’re doing. That‘s part of the left mantra since the 60’s. Come on, get it together. Remember, peace and love towards everyone. Your posts are boring and very hate-filled.
Secessionista
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:15amThis is child-abuse. Why hasn’t CPS taken this boy from his parents?
Report Post »j4diceusmc
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:24amYou know it is and this is why sane sex what ever they wish to call them selves should never be allowed to adopt. There are 100′s of traditional married couples waiting years to adopt. These two freaks should be locked away for life.. The damage they have caused this little boy is inexcusable.. Not only should they be punished but the authorities that gave them the child should be as well..
Report Post »Socialism_Is_The_New_Black
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:00amHere is one I see coming in the future; kid goes to guidance counselor to complain that hetro-parents tell their child not to dress like or talk of becoming the opposite sex. CPS comes and takes away the child and cues them at the front of the line for gender reassignment. Naturally a youngster would get medical resources ahead of the know-nothing old people.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 8:27amJ4, the damage she would suffer growing up in the wrong body would be far worse.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:27amhe is a boy…basic biology gomer….get a clue.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on October 1, 2011 at 8:40am@discord – and who are YOU to decide which body is the “wrong” body?
Report Post »Is a 6-year old able to decide? An 11-yr-old?
YOU need help.
You also need to stop attacking others who post on here.
That is a violation of the COMMENT POLICY and, as such, TERMS OF USE.
As is BAITING…
Just FYI… “sweetie” to use your own words.
vnachi77
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:08amI’m sure the fact that she was adopted by two lesbians plays no role in this.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:11amExactly
Report Post »Servant Of YHVH
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:37amTrue True I’m sure that since they put on him that he was a girl from the second they got him made him a bit confused until they brainwashed him. They are ATTEMPTING to make make a mockery of God, first and foremost by making a mockery of Him by perverting His Creation. Secondly, in this picture they are making a mockery of the tallit with God’s symbol of his laws that is put on the tallit as well as making a mockery of Judaism, pretending to be a part of God’s chosen people the Jews. They are an abomination unto God and they are making sure that thos children become an abomination as well. Even if they are Jewish by blood God WILL pay back those who make a mockery of Him. I just pray that He puts His Hand upon them and causes them to believe in Him and choose to follow Him if it is not too late for them. I pray that the children at least becomes “right” in His sight and is saved from the horrors that they are all facing at this time. God Bless Them and let God make them “right”!
Report Post »BrandyWilson
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:07amA Christ-less life…has nothing but waste and destruction as its fruits….“Born Wrong”…Well that is why we all must be born AGAIN!
Report Post »PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:05amAngelina Jolie is manipulating her oldest biological daughter, Shilow, to be a boy. I
Angelina Jolie will stop at nothing to attract attention to herself to prove she deserves the “best mother/most understanding mother” ever award. She won’t be like “Cher” when the “Chaz” came out because Cher flipped. It is like Angelina doesn’t want a beauty competition between her oldest biological daughter and herself when Shylow grows up so she is deliberately making her daughter unattractive and gender confused.
Jolie dressed her daughter, Shylow, as a BOY since she was an infant. Boy shirts. Boy pants. Boy shorts. Boy shoes. No way an infant /toddler knows what it has on. Jolie is deliberately CONFUSING Shylows gender identification. It is SO OBVIOUS that “Chaz” called Jolie/Pittman and offered to mentor Shylow as she grows and when she wants to have surgery to be a man, Chaz will be right there.
She always dressed the adopted daughter from Africa (around same age) as a girl but not her eldest bio daughter. Now that her twins are born, that youngest biological daughter gets dressed as a girl also. But Jolie is one sick Mommy Dearest for deliberately confusing Shylow’s gender identification.
Report Post »BrandyWilson
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:12amPray for that child!
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 4:03pmNonsense, if you look at older pictures of the kid, she’s wearing a dress in lots of them. If she dresses like a tomboy now, it’s probably her preference, which will probably change as she get older, and forcing her to dress the way other people think she should isn’t going to change her tastes any faster. Remember, she’s only five, and I’m sure the other five year olds can tell she’s a girl no matter how she dresses.
Report Post »robx
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:05amWasnt the left all in a rage when the 15 year old girl was going to sail around the world alone? Remember they wanted to arrest the parents? Child abuse? Too young to make such a choice…
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/dec/15/sports/la-sp-simers15-2009dec15
Report Post »These so-called parents are repeat offenders too, their 17-year-old son Zac recently becoming the youngest American sailor to circle the globe, as the newspaper story goes, surviving “merciless gales, a run-in with pirates and a near-collision with a gargantuan freighter near the Panama Canal
loriann12
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:04amNotice the picture says Tammy with her parents and older brother. Parents are both women, older brother is wearing nail polish. I’m sorry, homosexuality is taught. That’s why the man-boy love whatever organization is for lowering the age of consent.
Report Post »BrandyWilson
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:24amThe fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree!
Report Post »Socialism_Is_The_New_Black
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:53amAgree! Are they Jewish? What is going on in the top picture?
Report Post »t00nces2
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:04amGood thing he did sign that he thought he was a duck…
Report Post »Fina Biscotti
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:01amMy group of friends – had a work-related contact – with a man – who dressed and lived as a woman.
He was close to having his operation – to become a full-blown woman.
After the trans-gender operation – from man to woman, this person became sexually attracted to only women –
Report Post »and eventually committed suicide.
BrandyWilson
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 7:15amSad…has the man come to Christ…got fixed inside what needed fixing…then this story would have ended much differently….What he needed was not to “Remake” what God had created…but to get rid of the sin and confusion that was destroying him!
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:11amMan created God.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:17amand God doesn’t mind stupid, obviously….
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 1:12pm@ Discord “Man crated God.”
Who/what is your god that you made for yourself?
The God in whom I believe is the creater of everything and everyone, and the friendship with Him is the ultimate desire of all humanity, whether humans realize that or not! May you someday come to know the true Love of God.
Report Post »Discord
Posted on September 30, 2011 at 9:08pmI don’t have a personal god, or any god for that matter.
Report Post »Tammy_Beth
Posted on October 5, 2011 at 5:02amand you somehow know that the suicide arose from his trans condition and his efforts to treat it….and not from the fact that folks like you make no secret of your opinion that such people are freaks and pervs?
There were very very many times in my life when I considered taking my own life (even at times while believing sincerely God would eventually heal me) and it was never because I was trans, but rather because everyone i knew would consider me a sick freak if i ever let them find out and living with the secret was torture.
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