Man Arrested for Trying to Record Underwear Strip-Down at TSA Checkpoint
- Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:07am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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Planning on filming any “minimally invasive” TSA pat-downs this travel week? Think again. After trying to film his over-the-top stunt at a San Diego TSA checkpoint, Samuel Wolanyk was arrested and charged with refusing to complete the security process and trying to videotape the event.
On Friday, Wolanyk opted out of the advanced imaging screening at San Diego’s Lindbergh Field. When told he would need to get a pat-down, he instead stripped down to his underwear, the NBC San Diego affiliate reports.
“TSA needs to see that I’m not carrying any weapons, explosives, or other prohibited substances, I refuse to have images of my naked body viewed by perfect strangers, and having been felt up for the first time by TSA the week prior (I travel frequently) I was not willing to be molested again,” Wolanyk said in a statement on Sunday.
TSA requested that Wolanyk put his clothes back on in order to complete the pat-down, but he refused, according to his attorney.
While it’s not surprising that Wolanyk was taken into custody for stripping down (and we already knew that failure to complete the screening process could carry consequences), the charge of unlawfully recording the event is new.
“Harbor police also confiscated his iPhone and the video camera used by his companion, who was also charged with unlawful recording within the airport without permission,” Wolanyk’s attorney told the San Diego Union Tribune. “He was handcuffed and paraded through two airport terminals in his underwear to the Harbor Police office.”
According to the TSA website, filming a TSA checkpoint is not illegal as long as it does not interfere with the screening process:
TSA does not prohibit the public, passengers or press from photographing, videotaping or filming at security checkpoints, as long as the screening process is not interfered with or slowed down. We do ask you to not film or take pictures of the monitors. While the TSA does not prohibit photographs at screening locations, local laws, state statutes, or local ordinances might.
It’s unclear what specific statute against recording the man and his companion violated.*
According to the attorney, the phones and recordings have not been returned. San Diego is the same city where John Tyner filmed his pat down and now famously told TSA agents not to touch his “junk.
UPDATE:
After calling and talking to the Harbor Police in San Diego, The Blaze obtained a copy of the filming statute. Section “a” of statute 7.14 says:
No person shall take still, motion or sound motion pictures or voice recordings on the facilities and airports under the jurisdiction of the San Diego County Regional Airport Authority (the “Authority”) without written permission from the Authority’s Executive Director or his or her designee.
As for failing to complete the security process, section b-1 of code 7.01 seems to address that:
If the Facility is an airport, then such person shall complete successfully all portions of the airline passenger pre-boarding inspection process to the satisfaction of the appropriate controlling authority and shall afterwards remain only in authorized locations maintained for passenger embarkation and debarkation.
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Comments (342)
rickcampbell1
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:58amwhen citizens trade their rights for security they deserve neither
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:51amThe problem with being a TSA agent is that they have become the very personification of an intrusive overreaching beaurecratic government that is unconcerned with the peoples freedoms or concerns. Citizens are very upset (and rightfully so in my opinion) about both the scans and the pat downs. Whether you stand there with your arms out in front of a scanner knowing that some faceless agent is looking over every square inch of your unclothed body or groping your breasts and groin and sliding their hands inside your pants while you stand in front of countless strangers, it brings to mind all the other countless intrusions and infractions to which our government has subjected us. The fact that this procedure is inferior in effectiveness to profiling techniques accompanied by strategic questioning mirrors the federal governments wastefulness of our resources in nearly every role (Constitutional or not) in which it is involved.
Report Post »Hisemiester
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:01amBrown shirts, don’t you know. It’s been coming for a long long time and has now arrived. before this is over there will be much blood in the streets. This nation is on the brink of explosion. This TSA thing may just be the ignition point.
Report Post »mrclean
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 3:39pmEl Rushbo says:
TSA = Tough $#!+ America
Report Post »NHABE64
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:51amAmerica MUST take a stand against TSA officials, even if they are doing their jobs. Doing their jobs does not mean We the People have to put up with this inprecedented intimidation by these goons. We must REFUSE to be violated, we must REFUSE to be embarrassed by these idiots, we must demonstrate and let Obama and his Mickey Mouse government know we are not to be toyed with, Our motto is Don’t Tread On Me. How can Obama expect Americans to stand by and take this crap while he watching the sports channel in the White House and our southern bonders are being violated every day by cockroaches stealing their way into our country. Its all despicable. We must relaliate now, we must take a stand and tell Obama and his henchmen we are not going to put up with this insane stuff anymore. We the People WILL have our voices heard yet again.
Report Post »Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:40amthen ghost of jefferson here is waht you do
you dont fly and write a letter to your airline saying why – then if enough do it they will lose money and throw off the tsa because they cant do business.
you sorta think you just saying – hey you violated my rights is gonna do something – its not
your rights will keep getting trampled worse and worse – thats whats coming
and one day just like history shows there will have to be a revolt
but just know a security pat down to get on a plane is just a pat down and dotn try to make it more than it is.
Report Post »Ghostrider
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:48amIf they prohibit the taking of pictures, they are in effect working in secret. They can now do anything to us in the airports, and we are suppose to take it. I will never forget that I am and was born a free man. The corrupt government of Comrade Chairman Obama will not rule over me and my family as long as we have breath to fight the tyranny. Outlaw our freedom, and bring the body bags. Semper Fi
Report Post »GoingBeck
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:48amPolice State!
Report Post »Hisemiester
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:47amI was wondering when someone would strip to their underwear. I think all should dress in swim suits under outer clothes- Girls/women bikinis, or near so. Men in speedos if possible. Then when approaching the TSI people should remove the outer garments. Shake up their milk, don’t you think?
Report Post »powhatan
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:40amLooks like we have a Nazi paradise right here in the good ol USA……We must NEVER get used to or accept this from our Govt.!
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:38amIf you pass gas while they are bent down face at butt level. Can they arrest you? Would that be considered an assault?
Report Post »Jimbo143
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:08amfor some people it would be.
Report Post »Sledgehammer
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:37amHammer these airport authorities would not be around with out our tax payer dollars, it’s another example of the empolyees dictating to their bosses. May be kicking the crap out of the idiots in charge would get some real functional changes! Yeah I know no violence, but I’m aiming at their bosses, and law makers, just slap em around a bit! I got dibbs on Chris Dodd!
Report Post »akim
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:36amOBAMA AND NEPOLLITANO ARE HOPING THAT RiOT BREAKS OUT AT AIRPORT SO TSA CAN OPEN FIRE WITH THEIR AUTOMATIC WEAPONS. OBAMA COULD THEN SUSSPEND RIGHTS AND BLAME IT ON LIMBAUGH, BECK, HENIDY, AND TEA.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:33amIf the truth was made known, he was probably being arrested for being an *******. He knew what he was getting into, so he has no excuse for this behavior. He refused to get dressed, so they decided to make an example of him. I am not saying its right, but when dealing with government, do as they say not as they do.
Report Post »Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:44amyes this is a person who wanted to make an issue where there was none – its a non story but he made it into one.
Report Post »Pa-triot
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:32amYet in Arizona where people are killed, kidnapped, and you can’t go into state parks the police can not pull you over for an infraction and “ask” if you are a citizen !!! and the government is suing the state because it’s law is “racist” and “unconstitutional” even though it Mirrors the existing Federal Law!!!!!!! I’m more afraid of my own corrupt government than I am of the terrorists. They must me laughing their butts off at all the chaos and personal invasion they have caused Americans by our own government’s “Fear” for OUR OWN GOOD!!!! What a Crock!!!!!!! Obama I‘m not that stupid or cowardly to believe it’s for Our Own Good!
Report Post »FED-UP-AND-READY-TO-TAKE-ACTION
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:37amWell said…………
Report Post »Jimbo143
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:14amit doesnt mirror federal law exactly.the federal govt can ask anyone,anywhere for identification the arizona law would allow officers to ask after they were pulled over for say speeding and they dont have a drivers license,proof of insurance,or any other valid identification.the federal law is much stricter than arizonas.
Report Post »cantstopthesignal
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 4:39pmAwesomely put!
Report Post »FED-UP-AND-READY-TO-TAKE-ACTION
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:32amWell it has been said that if one puts a frog into boiling water they will leap out. But if they are put in water and said water is heated slowly to the boiling point they never know what has happened to them and they die. My point is this. With ea passing day the American people are being asked to do things that may seem little things but as time goes by the next thing you know you will be in a police state with armed soldiers/guards telling you what you can and cannot do. May seem like that will never happen but the frog never felt it coming………………
Report Post »“Stand for what is right even if you have to stand alone”
mrclean
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 3:35pmVery much appreciate your post— thanks!
Founding Fathers KNEW human nature and also KNEW what power-loving government officials were/are capable of doing, regardless of Constitutional limits or anything else for that matter.
If George Washington and the others listed here can see us today, they are screaming at us for our inability to take a stand for liberty.,.. They essentially faught the Revolution under horrendous conditions for nothing.
Report Post »FED-UP-AND-READY-TO-TAKE-ACTION
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 10:34amWHY WAS THIS POST REMOVED YESTERDAY? I AM REPOSTING TODAY???
I know the following quotes from Great Americans may seem “outdated” to some but just to remind everyone who American is supposed to be please take the time to read and think what they really mean
Here are some quotes on the subject from our founding fathers:
Samuel Adams – If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.
Thomas Jefferson – What country can preserve its freedom if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let the people take arms for the liberty tree of freedom must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson – Experience hath shown, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson – Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.
Thomas Jefferson – Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.
Patrick Henry – Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things, which so nearly concern their temporal salvation?
John Adams – A Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty once lost is lost forever. When the People once surrender their share in the Legislature, and their Right of defending the Limitations upon the Government, and of resisting every Encroachment upon them, they can never regain it.
George Washington – Freedom, not safety, is the highest good.
Thomas Jefferson – Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.
James Madison – I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.
Benjamin Franklin – Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
Thomas Jefferson – My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Patrick Henry – Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death.
George Washington – Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
Alexander Hamilton – Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.
Samuel Adams – The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil constitution, are worth defending against all hazards: And it is our duty to defend them against all attacks.
Thomas Jefferson – I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
Alexander Hamilton – When the sword is once drawn, the passions of men observe no bounds of moderation.
Thomas Jefferson – Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence.
John Adams – Democracy… while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide.
George Washington – The marvel of all history is the patience with which men and women submit to burdens unnecessarily laid upon them by their governments.
Patrick Henry – When the American spirit was in its youth, the language of America was different: Liberty, sir, was the primary object.
James Madison – Perhaps it is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad.
Alexander Hamilton – In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men the great difficulty lies in this: You must first enable the government to control the governed, and in the next place, oblige it to control itself.
Patrick Henry – The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.
Thomas Jefferson – For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security.
Thomas Jefferson – Every generation needs a new revolution.
Thomas Jefferson – The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
George Washington – Experience teaches us that it is much easier to prevent an enemy from posting themselves than it is to dislodge them after they have got possession.
Thomas Jefferson – The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive.
James Madison – Where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is duly respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or his possessions.
George Washington – It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.
James Madison – As a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to have a property in his rights.
Samuel Adams – Our contest is not only whether we ourselves shall be free, but whether there shall be left to mankind an asylum on earth for civil and religious liberty.
George Washington – Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness.
George Washington – It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a Free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even of his personal services to the defense of it.
Thomas Jefferson – Leave no authority existing not responsible to the people.
Samuel Adams – How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!
Patrick Henry – For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it. Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves.
James Madison – No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.
James Madison – The loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or imagined, from abroad
Report Post »pilgrim2497
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:31amA suggestion to travelers—Eat lots of beans before going to the airport, and when the government goon kneels behind you to explore your nether regions; let a big one fly in his face..
Report Post »mdlwoods
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:31amGet ahold of your Senator and Congressman. Bombard them with e-mails, letters, phone calls. Lets put a stop to this madness. This is nothing but a police-state gone mad! WAKE UP AMERICA!
Report Post »burnteye86
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:25amStart Profiling! Political Correctness is a clear and present danger to our national secuity.
Report Post »Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:32amstart profiling and keep patting everyone down.
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:44amKeep it to profiling, and the traditional security measures.
Report Post »dkhartman
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:23amIf I weren’t pregnant, I’d be out protesting this garbage… UGH getting arrested by recording TSA agents doing something that’s illegal in the first place… If I were to ‘randomly’ grope someone for what I think is the safety of other‘s I’d be arrested. 1st and 4th amendments being trampled on here!
Report Post »Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:22amHmm see here is the thing, real people out in this world want to kill you and your little children.
these so called horror stories of tsa are so exaggerated. I am an adult male, if i get patted down and they feel around “my junk” so what ? am i that mentally weak where im gonna feel all violated just because people are looking for a bomb ? and yes you have to check that area well because look at underwear bomber. do you freak out if you go to doctor and get hernia check ? or do you act like an adult ?
now i understand some of you may be all serious about this like its the worst thing ever and you cant handle a pat down or a scan of you.
The annoying thing is going to be this – everyone is complaining about this but just wait till a bomb goes off on a plane then these same people will cry that not enough is done. some will change their attitude as soon as the remains of their loved one are smeared across the runway.
if you cant handle someone putting their hand near your junk because they want to make sure the plane is safe, then you need to rethink your priorities.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:26amIf you can’t handle the Constitutional prohibition against unreasonable search and seizure, maybe you should rethink your priorities.
Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:29amits not unreasonable – people want to blow up planes
get it ?
you remember 9-11 thats the reason
Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:31amalso you can choose not to fly – its not them rounding up people and searching them
its them saying if you want to fly you must do this, this, and this. huge difference – you want to get on plane get searched if you dont then dont.
big difference between a pvt airline and unjust search
the_ancient
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:31amAre we at last brought to such an humiliating and debasing degradation that we must be randomly strip searched before boarding an airplane? I know not what others may choose but, as for me, give me liberty or give me death.
the_ancient
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:35am1> This is a Government Agency, not a Pvt Airline, so yes they are Bound by the Consitution
2> I DO have the RIGHT to be secure in my person from unreasonable search but upon probable cause, and a “Groin Check” is most certainly unreasonable and going to the airport is not probable cause.
3> You DO NOT have a “right” to security, just as you find no reference to flying, I find no reference to security in the Constitution, You tell people “if you dont want a Groin Check, dont fly“ I say ”If you want 100% security, Never leave your padded room”
Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:42amno no no- its a pvt airline that government agency is put in charge of security
the airlines are not public my friend. name one airline that this government owns ? if you cant then those rules dotn apply.
um key word unreasonable – you think its unreasonable that they check people for bombs who get on planes – lol that is what is wrong with this country
the airlines are not government owned – you dont like it dont fly you want to fly you follow the rules that easy
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:42amIf it’s not unreasonable then obtain a warrant signed by a judge specifying each person to be searched specifically, stating exactly what is being looked for and where they intend to search, as well as listing the reasonable cause for the search, on the warrant.
Otherwise, buzz off. Freedom means that we don’t have to live with YOUR fears, bud.
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:45amOhhhhh… I wasn’t aware that they were Americans who took all those planes down on 9/11…. Silly me!
Report Post »Bullcop34
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:46amcitizen, where is the reasonable suspicion, required for a pat down, of an 8 year old boy or 80 year old nun? Or anyone for that matter? Is everyone under reasonable suspicion of terrorist activities simply because they walk into an airport? No, because you can pick someone up without being screened so what about that? Do you start screening procedures at the front door? Oh, wait, the family minivan just drove into the airport parking garage, let’s frisk them! Following this logic, any vehicle that drives within 1000 yards of the airport will be subject to being searched. Where does it stop? In your house when you order the ticket online? Will they then come into your house and search it simply because you WILL be flying in the future?
Report Post »Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:49amwho said anything about americans ? im talking about people boarding planes.
and they dont need a warrent – airlines are pvt owned
follow rules or dont fly – that simple
again name one airline the government ownes ?
many of you want to apply constitutional law to a pvt company it dont work that way
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:52am@Citizen
Such bizarro world European Safety First type thinking.
Here it is, clear and easy for you.
The airline is a private entity. I am a private entity. We both wish to do business. The government, a third party who was not invited to be part of the transactions, inserts itself and demands in bellicose rage that we, two private entities, must give up our rights in order to conduct business with each other. They then proceed to literally throw the 4th Amendment in the trash, and their cheerleaders (such as you for example) sneer at us that somehow, we’re the ones in the wrong.
No, we aren’t. The 4th Amendment was codified specifically to stop government from harassing and searching private individuals going about their life, unless the government had reasonable suspicion and a signed, very specific and detailed warrant.
You want safety? Go live in a bunker. What you don’t get to do is dictate to us how we should give up our rights so that YOU can feel safe.
Report Post »sapper
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:53amNo, your mentally weak for being scared to get on a plane without this crap being done. I am an adult male to you jerk. I’m also a combat veteran, former special forces, former law enforcement and I don’t want them fondling my nuts just so an idiot like you can feel like you safer getting on the plane.
Report Post »Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:54ambullcop – again airline is pvt company they can have as many pat downs and feel ups as they want
you have a choice to fly
for the 10th time – the government does not own the airlines so the constitutional law does not apply
Report Post »you want to fly you follow those rules – very easy
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:54am@Citizen
**again name one airline the government ownes ?
many of you want to apply constitutional law to a pvt company it dont work that way**
Clearly, at this point, you are trolling. You know that the government “runs” TSA. That’s why they, TSA, need to follow the Constitution.
Get with liberty, or get the hell out of the way.
Report Post »Rhodie
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:02amCitizen, you evidently don’t understand the difference in liberty vs a police state. We don’t get to a police state all at once, it is an evolution. What the TSA is doing is removing some of our liberty, the next step will be putting the same process at all government buildings (including post offices), then . . . The current policy assumes all people flying are guilty. We should be using common sense, and looking for persons that fit the profile of the prior bad guys. By giving up liberty in the name of safety, you will wind up with neither. WAKE UP AMERICA!!! “Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.” Thomas Jefferson
Report Post »janddjohnson
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:02amCitizen: Are you for or against profiling?
Report Post »Rapunzel
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:03amCitizen, you are missing one of the points. Not only are these procedures egregious violations of our 4th Amendment rights, they are INEFFECTIVE. I can still get anything I want onto a plane – as long as it fits in my ****** or anus.
The TSA treats every traveler like a potential terrorist when profiling would be much more effective: Where were you born? What is the purpose of your trip? How do you intend to get around at your final destination? Where will you be staying? Who paid for your ticket? Where did the funds come from?
Report Post »Batjak456
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:07amGHOSTOFJEFFERSON…Well said!!
CITIZEN…
First Question: Citizen of which country?
Second Question: Are YOU so ‘mentally weak’ that you can‘t see what’s going on here?
This so-called administration has a nasty habit of always picking U.S. citizens as ‘the enemy’.
I don‘t see ’em checkin‘ any ’junk’ along our own borders [a genuine national security threat].
Third Question: What good does it do to put OUR citizens through this sham of a security circus if other
countries don’t apply the same standards?
Fourth Question: How long do you think it’ll be before this country elects another black president? [thanks to Obama & his 'theories']
Fifth Question: Why am I wasting my time trying to reason with you?
Batjak456
Report Post »A 100% disabled UNITED STATES Air Force veteran
ALL GAVE SOME
SOME GAVE ALL
Bullcop34
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:10amcitizen, citezen, oh poor citizen….I’m talking about TSA, a government run entity that IS interfering with two private parties transactions. I’ve never brought up , nor has anyone else, the fact that airports are private or government owned but sonme of them are. Shreveport Regional Airport is owned by the City of Shreveport (hint hint, it’s a government run airport). The airport in this article is run by……..San Diego County Regional Airport Authority (hint, this is another government run airport) go tell your mother to fix you some Campbell’s chicken noodle soup!
Report Post »Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:13amjan profiling is the way to go – its common sense and works
it would take time to impliment due to all the ones who claim it violates rights so that isnt going to happen for awhile.
Report Post »Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:21amPosted on November 22, 2010 at 11:07am
GHOSTOFJEFFERSON…Well said!!
CITIZEN…
First Question: Citizen of which country?
Second Question: Are YOU so ‘mentally weak’ that you can‘t see what’s going on here?
This so-called administration has a nasty habit of always picking U.S. citizens as ‘the enemy’.
I don‘t see ’em checkin‘ any ’junk’ along our own borders [a genuine national security threat].
Third Question: What good does it do to put OUR citizens through this sham of a security circus if other
countries don’t apply the same standards?
Fourth Question: How long do you think it’ll be before this country elects another black president? [thanks to Obama & his 'theories']
Fifth Question: Why am I wasting my time trying to reason with you?
Batjak456
A 100% disabled UNITED STATES Air Force veteran
ALL GAVE SOME
SOME GAVE ALL
batjak – much respect for being a vet
Report Post »1 usa
2 yes the government is whack and the border sham is the government pandering to the left and not wanting to profile again
3 your right – i wouldnt let them fly into this country at all without even stricter search than our own citizens
4dont know – but i dont see it as a matter of race as much as i see a fool in office
5 dont know
MidWestMom
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:39am….. “Hmm see here is the thing, real people out in this world want to kill you and your little children” …. Well duh. Ya think? Seriously, we DO understand this fact. Your condecending attitude is insulting and non-productive to the dialogue.
….“now i understand some of you may be all serious about this like its the worst thing ever and you cant handle a pat down or a scan of you” …… You miss the whole point. The pat-downs (even though they are humilitating AND un-constitutional to boot) and the “nude” body scans ARE NOT the core issue. These procedures are the latest manifestation of a government that actively pursues any and all avenues (legal or not – they don’t care) to control, condition & monitor US Citizen’s. That my friend is the root issue. American citizens have drawn their “line in the sand” so to speak. Our message to the Feds is this: Enough. You won’t bully us any longer.
…. “The annoying thing is going to be this – everyone is complaining about this but just wait till a bomb goes off on a plane then these same people will cry that not enough is done. some will change their attitude as soon as the remains of their loved one are smeared across the runway.” ….. Obviously you believe that brutal, insulting & rude comments support your opinion. You have no desire to look at the facts. These atrocious personal intrusions won’t stop a determined terrorist. The facts support that use of explosive sniffing dogs, TRAINED profiling and document inspectors, more extensive & careful screening of electronics, luggage & cargo will and do find more terrorists. Take a look at El Al the Israeli airline.
…. “if you cant handle someone putting their hand near your junk because they want to make sure the plane is safe, then you need to rethink your priorities”…… I think we HAVE re-thought our priorities. Our priorities include freedom from total government control of our lives & bodies as well as upholding the Constitution of the United States. Obviously yours do not.
Report Post »dkhartman
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:02pmThe Airport I USED to fly into in Florida to see my husband is owned by the government actually…
Report Post »wtd
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:05pmCitizen @ 11:13am stated: “profiling is the way to go – its common sense and works -it would take time to impliment DUE TO ALL THE ONES WHO CLAIM IT VIOLATES RIGHTS so that isnt going to happen for awhile.” Do you read what you write? The current process violates OUR rights right now . . .without our consent!! If this gov’t can nationalize the auto industry and the health care industry, they sure as hell can adapt Israeli security measures and profile for that ‘tiny minority’ of extremists that threaten every non-Muslim flying into/through/out of American airports.
Report Post »Michelle
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:06pmAre you of the mind that the Constitution is just a piece of paper? Are you willing to give up the freedoms that thousands have died to ensure that you have the right to the privacy of your own body? I prefer the CHOICE of whom I am willing to allow to touch my private areas over just handing over that choice to a group of bureaucrats with nothing better to do. The implementation of these tactics are actually noneffective. Dogs have been shown to provide a better, more effective, less intrusive alternative to these privacy sapping tactics.
Report Post »Individualsrule
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 5:59pmWell “Citizen” since you are hung like a field mouse you have no problem with having your junk touched, however, there are a few of us “Gifted” individuals who would rather not have a jealous TSA agent touching what they wished they had, and I don‘t want my pic all over the net wondering if i’m black or white if you know what I mean, hehe,,,
Report Post »bets
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:29pmCitizen
Report Post »You are told that we are being searched to keep us safe from a one ounce bomb. Would you be willing to have someone look up your butt? You get real.
cantstopthesignal
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 4:17pmThere is so much wrong with what your saying I‘m beginning to wonder if your not ’one of them?” I was raped and am still recovering. And I have family living all over the US. I can’t go to see them now because I am TERRIFIED of a stranger touching me and HORRIFIED that an image of me may or may not be seen by everyone on www. So, what do I do? What if I cant afford to drive or my family cant afford to come see me? Can you come give me a ride?
Report Post »Disabledvet
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:21amIf I am going to be patted down, then I want a woman doing the feeling not some other guy.
Report Post »dkhartman
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:24amHaha my husband is the same way…
Report Post »temple62
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:20amn defense of the TSA, Nappy, Pisshole and Obama, people need to know that the U.S. Government, Congress, and Obama’s pseudo administration have empowered the TSA to make your travel as inconvenient, obtrusive, delayed and objectionable as possible. This is their mission and you have to admit they are doing a great job following all these precepts.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:58amTemple …I know that you are correct about the intentions of the govt. to make things as inconvenient as possible. If you try to figure out why, you come up with the inescapable truth of despotic tyranny injecting itself into our everyday lives.
Report Post »I believe that even Obama thinks his form of progressive depotism is beneficial to the people….maybe he’s trying to get us ready for the new world order and the Iron Rule that it brings. These progs really believe that it is the world’s savior. WE know better, of course.
EP46
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:17amAgree about ‘miserable’…but keep in mind. Big Brother would love for people to stop flying so they can take over the airlines……then it will be Fly Obama Air …at prices the Gov regulate and only to destinations the Gov decide upon. We have to make sure there are no more bailouts for the airline industry and at the same time stop the insanity and force Homeland Security to be proactive.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 6:19pmLet the effing government take over the airlines. Im done flying—-DONE!!!!!!
Report Post »I will not board another plane. This is absurd.
I hope thousands if not millions of Americans do the same and stop flying.
I’ll go see grandma for Christmas by taking the car—-or I’ll just stay home.
john seven eighteen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:17amI can’t think of many jobs I would rather NOT have right now than being a TSA frisker. Talk about job stress, and who knows if you will even have a future in that field?
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:16amI hear that the soundtrack will feature Rod Stewart’s “If You Want My Body….”.
Report Post »TheBeezKnow
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:14amI don’t blame this guy. I would get sick of being felt up too.
Report Post »Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:28amso you feel felt up if someone checks you for a bomb ?
do you feel like your doctor is feeling you up when he examines your throat ? – oh the horror he touched me
everyone freaks out about this tsa feeling them when looking for a bomb that can kill them but no one freaks on doctors, any of you ladies go to gyno ? make sure you let the news headlines know he felt you up – or was he just doin his job
get a grip people if your an adult i hope your mind can handle the horrors of having a person pat you down.
what are some gonna do when something bad actually happens.
RightUnite
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:41amReally Citizen?? How many American children have you ever heard of being strapped down with bombs? How many American Grandma and Grandpas??? You really need to get a clue…. What do you think the TSA will do when a plane goes down anyway with all the crap they are putting us through? Because the last I heard, not so much cargo is being checked. Do you really think this will prevent another plane going down? I don’t.
Report Post »ampul man
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:48am“what are some gonna do when something bad actually happens”
We can: (a) close the border; (6) properly synchronize the world-wide databases, so that bad people WILL be flagged; (c) profile ‘likely’ persons, not grandmas, kids, or nuns.
Report Post »sapper
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:50am@citizen. The doctor checking my throat does not have his other hand on my balls you moron. TSA is squeezing genitals during their pat downs. That is sexual assault in most places under normal conditions. You might try reading the 4th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution pal. Here it is because you are obviously too lazy to go find it on your own:
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
That is pretty clear “citizen”. Federal agents do not have the right to search me without a warrant, signed by a judge, supported by probable cause and a sworn oath by a third party and specifically describing the place to be searched. I do not give up those rights when I enter an airport. If you think these searches are ok then you are a weak minded fool and a coward. Only a coward would give up his liberty and constitutionally guaranteed rights in order to feel safer on a plane. Idiots!
Report Post »rickcampbell1
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:56amwhen citizen’s trade their rights for safety they deserve niether !
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:01am@ citizen This man was trying to create a sensation and so this story doesn’t interest me much BUT since you brought it up:
“so you feel felt up if someone checks you for a bomb ?”
No, I feel felt up if someone checks me for a bomb in my a@@ without reasonable suspicion”
“do you feel like your doctor is feeling you up when he examines your throat ? – oh the horror he touched me”
No. Because I am there freely, by my choice, for his expertise which I am paying him/her for.
“everyone freaks out about this tsa feeling them when looking for a bomb that can kill them but no one freaks on doctors, any of you ladies go to gyno ? make sure you let the news headlines know he felt you up – or was he just doin his job”
See above.
“get a grip people if your an adult i hope your mind can handle the horrors of having a person pat you down.”
This is much different than a pat down.
“what are some gonna do when something bad actually happens.”
What makes you think this will stop something bad from happening?
Your inability to distinguish between invited and uninvited contact makes me fear for your dinner date, and your faith in this ridiculous invasion as a way to assure safety is misguided.
Silversmith
Report Post »Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:03amsapper the airline is pvtly owned
they can have whatever security measures they want – get it ?
name one ailrine that is owned by government ?
if you own your house and you want to search somone who wants to come in – you can
Report Post »no warrent needed no constituion broken – you own it you want to search someone you can
Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:06amsapper the pvt airline has every right to let tsa handle security for them. its pvtly owned
airlines arent public transport – get it yet ?
now for the peopel who say profile – oh trust me i couldnt be more with you
same with building a fence – all for it
and i have no problem with people who think this is stupid and intrusive – but lets just not exagerate it
so many were shocked when the terrorists took over planes – wait till they pack explosives ona old lady or kid – many will be shocked then – but not all of us
know your enemy
Report Post »Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:09amsapper you ever get checked for a hernia ? that must be horribly violating or just a doctor doing his job huh ?
does he have a warrent to feel you and search for a hernia ? maybe he needs to get one he has no just cause.
Report Post »the_ancient
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:20amI know Citzen is Just Trolling, but what kind of moron would compare a Doctor, whom has years of training is held to a ethics standard and are legally held required to protect your confidentiality and privacy to a wanna bee dictator TSA Agent that is shielded by the Feds from liability???
tbb
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:32am@citizen I haven’t been to a doctor for a very long time because I get freaked out there too! I won’t fly until this mess is cleared up. I felt violated before they stepped up the pat downs when my family all went to see my husbands family in Scotland in August.
Report Post »@the_WEDGE
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:34amhey citizen, TSA has’nt stopped a single terrorist yet, they are a joke and huge waste of our money! They are Not protecting us, they are stripping away our freedom. So if you like getting groped by strangers so much and losing your freedom too then go get your ignorant ass thrown in jail!!
Report Post »ClockKing
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:38amLast I checked, doctors who feel patients up during an exam are arrested. There have been quite a few spectacular cases.
I’m sick of “citizens” like citizen. They are trying to destroy the very nation that gives them the freedom to be jerks. They don’t deserve reasoned rational discourse. We just need to force them out of our society.
And cops. Just doing your job ain’t gonna cut it.
Report Post »Rob
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:42amCitizen is a sheep.
Report Post »AimCenterMass
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:55amTSA; The Scrotum Assailants
Report Post »Diamondback
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:55am@ CITIZEN: GOT PROBABLE CAUSE?
You consider yourself a defender of freedom?
REALLY?
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:27pmCitizen, How do you feel about dogs? There are dogs that are trained to detect explosives. How about psychological profiling? These things are noninvasive and are proven to work, there really isn’t any real reason to be upsetting people like this. I won’t fly again until they stop this.
Report Post »Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:28pmlol defender of freedom ? no not at all
i think this country is failed already – we let a bunch of greedy people run this country for this long and now the country is too bloated to survive.
at some point mass world horror is coming and this and other countrymen will be killing eachother for food.
this country turned into a democracy and thats the problem – when a warship is waging war it doesnt look to its crew for a vote because the mass of crew isnt as informed as the captain. but now we have the crew making the decisions and there is the problem.
Report Post »James
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 1:44pm@Citizen,
I think you are crazy. I could ask everyone who enters my house to feel me up but I can’t make them do it. You cannot ask people to agree to a search to enter your house, it is a violation of their rights, not to mention being a terrible host.
As far as doctors go, If I went to my doctor for a check-up it would consist of routine checks and questions. If the doctor had a reason to believe that I needed a prostate exam or a hernia check based on what I told him/her, then I would give them the OK to proceed. In other words, the exam would be based on suspicion or probable cause, I would not expect a doctor to give the exam to everyone without reason.
If TSA agents were trained to ask questions, they would be able to determine by the answers if a person was likely to have explosives in their pants. Those are the people that would be searched, not everyone.
No one here disagrees with you that we need to be safe, what everyone but you does agree on is that the government has crossed the line here and the system needs to be changed.
Report Post »docvet
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 2:24pmI think this guy has something here. The TSA is doing a half-assed job. We all need to go into a bomb-proof room, strip down to our underwear, put all our clothes in a box that is x-rayed. An agent looks through a window, you do a 360, they give you your clothes back, you get dressed and proceed to your terminal. That way no emptying your pockets, taking off shoes/belts, no radiation and no videos in the room. By the way, no camers or pictures of any kind in the room, either.
Report Post »GardenoftheGods
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 2:47pm@Citizen…just a thought.. TSA employees are NOT doctors! I go to my doctor & give him permission to touch me; I also have the right to say NO…so, I refuse to fly..but don’t equate the damn TSA with a doctor..most of these people are lucky to have a GED! People always let power go to their heads; and that‘s what’s happening with a lot of these agents…they see it as having power over the public; I, for one, say NO to their radiation or their invasive pat downs!
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 3:04pmI do believe CITIZEN is a TSA goon.
Report Post »LLATPOH
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:13amSounds like local law enforcement is trying to make an example.
Interesting how these agencies start squirming when THEY’RE under the lamp.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:01pmYes .. then it becomes your word against theirs .. I see the “sheeple” are being found and interviewed for TV, Radio etc .. they have NO problem with being radiated and felt up .. the rest of us should refuse to fly and see who wins.
Report Post »SHTFMilitia.com
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 6:35pmThis is BS
The TSA can have a camera to protect them and they can film us in airports but we can not film FOR OUR OWN SAFETY..
If you are prepared you may survive,
Report Post »http://www.shtfmilitia.com
TruthTalker
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:11amFreedom of press opressed.
Shurmus
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:14amRight…wow. This is getting kinda scary….
http://www.slugbuddies.com
grandmaof5
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:25amSo if I haven’t seem my mother in 30 years because we were separated at birth, I can’t film or record the encounter without permission? These are pathetic people; if there were nothing to hide they wouldn’t be so defensive.
RightUnite
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:28amTime to stop flying folks. Need to put the airlines on notice. Once they see their profits going down, they won’t stand for the TSA!
KenInIL
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:36amDid they confiscate all the phone/cameras in the line that were taking pics??
Report Post »HKS
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:43amI for one have already lit up the mailboxes of my congressmen and senators on this issue. If you haven’t done so, I would recommend that you do. Keep them lit up until this is resolved. You would be surprised how much they dislike that. In fact make them nice and long, ramble if you will, so it takes a lot of time to read them. They are also obliged to answer and they don’t like that much either. Action will take place promptly if enough people hammer them.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:45am@Citizen
Those are private transactions that one chooses. The government butting in and demanding a surrender of all rights in order for us to transact business with another entity is unconstitutional, wrong and immoral. You may like being groped, but the rest of us have some amount of self respect and dignity.
Silversmith
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 10:46amRightunite – I completely understand that sentiment. The sad part of this is that there is a part of the citizenry that flys regularly, that cannot do their business without flying. I am one of them. That group of people are truly being violated, and the TSA and FED are using our need to provide for our families as leverage. I would stop flying if I could. But I can’t, so there needs to be a different solution.
SOON!
Silversmith
democratgirl
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:00amHow much freedom are YOU willing to give up for security? When is someone going to file a CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT AGAINST THE TSA AND ITS CONTRACTING COMPANY? OR, all you all armchair quarterbacking where it’s safe?
Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:00amlol@ghostofjeffersons feel up comment – child please grow up
im sorry your afraid of someone touching your body it must make going to doctor very tough
many of you may be simple people and not understand that some want you and your lil loved ones dead and they will pack bombs on 80 year old women and kids when they get the chance. Some people are very thought out and calculated and spend all their time thinking about how to kill you and they understand who and what are good cover for them.
you dont think terrorists think – hey they are looking closer at single muslim men who dotn fly very often so lets put the bomb on a old white lady.
the muslim terrorists are waging jihad – please understand what is coming
Citizen #25R624
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:02amStop with the bonehead stunts and vote with your wallet. When the airlines (and the airports) start losing big money, they will take care of the problem.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:09am@Citizen
You may be happy as a herd animal, most of us are not. It is MY body, I get to say who touches it, sees it or otherwise has any say over it.
I reject your fear mongering and I reject your servile cowardly statements.
Produce a warrant as is demanded by the 4th Amendment, or go away.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:14am@Citizen
**airlines arent public transport – get it yet ?**
Right, therefore, the government has no business being there AT ALL. Get it yet?
Report Post »Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:32amghost of jefferson – but they can allow the government to oversee it if they want
me personally i would have the airlines have their own individual security how they deem fit – if one airline wants body cavity searches before you get on a plane cool if one lets you carry open explosives cool – let us choose
i think many of you misunderstand what im saying – heck im a person who thinks the right to bear arms got trampled to dust. i think our government is evil, simply because the greedy who want power are the ones who strive to run it.
i would have never took our foot off the throat of germany and japan and the others from ww2 that land should have been stripped from them and their country should have been no more.
i say you put up a fence on border with snipers on it and a kill zone where if you see a person you shoot first and ask no questions after.
but what i am saying about security is a pat down is just a pat down – when people and religious zealots are looking to not jsut kill people but an econmoy sometimes you have to take steps.
am i saying let the tsa do whatever they want – no
but just being patted down to go on a plane isnt being round up to be put in slave camps.
war is coming people and you will have to make soem hard choices – i wish everyone loved rainbows and candy but some want your childrens throats slit.
Patty S.
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:33amThey who give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Ben Franklin
James
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:33amThis is outrageous. The only reason I can see why the would want to restrict filming is because they have something to hide.
As far as the dude stripping down to his underwear goes, there will more protests of this kind until the TSA changes their policies. I am waiting for someone to strip down completely before they walk up to the screeners, partaily to make a point and partialy for publicity.
http://crazyconservative.wordpress.com
Report Post »what4
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:46amTSA= Terrorist’s Screwing America!
Nostraquedeo
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:49amIf joe public refuses to fly under the TSA’s rules and the airlines start to go under, will they change the TSA’s rules or bail the airlines out with taxpayer money? I don’t see a way to win.
Report Post »Diamondback
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:51am@HKS: Since our congresscritters and Senators don’t even read the legislation they vote to pass in order to steal our money and liberties, what makes you think they’ll read a letter from a constituent.
As a matter of fact, every time I write one of those criminal SOBs, they simply send back some form letter response.
I know, I know, we have to keep TRYING so we‘ll have adequate justification for the messages formed from hot lead we’re going to have to send before this is all over.
Just had to say it and get it off my chest.
AimCenterMass
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:53amI refuse to fly unless and until this is rolled back. If I do find myself in unfortunate position of having to fly, I fully intend on doing so wearing a Kilt, traditional style with the beans and frank floating in the breeze. They want to grope me, the bastards will get the Full Monty!
Report Post »13thgenerati0namerican
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:09pmIt’s not freedom of the press moron!
My Two Cents
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:17pmDamned if you strip. Damned if you don’t.
I’m thinking about a start up company for see through travel pants. Anyone want to invest?
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:33pmthe more I am reading about these so called restrictions at airports.. the TSA given such broad authority the more I am NOW really distrustful of not just our government but of some of the so called transportation companies methods.. as near as I can tell NO ONE should be stopped from taking pictures in a PUBLIC airport.. as the GOVERNMENT is fond of saying THERE IS NO PRIVACY WHEN YOUR IN PUBLIC..What is the airport or the government afraid of??? WHAT are they hiding?
Polwatcher
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:37pmThey video us but we don’t dare video them. They don’t want to get caught breaking the law.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:39pm@Citizen.. YOUR KIDDING RIGHT?? than you must realize the danger of even getting a flu shot from your doctor right? Are you SURE it was a flu shot?? or just because the government SAID it was and TOLD you to get it than it must be safe and do you no harm right.. Come on now get an EDUCATION from a REAL school that teaches you to THINK for yourself.. IF your theory is correct the TSA agent could be planting something on you while patting you down and set it off when your in the air.. Or the guy loading your luggage could do the same..
LuvThisCntry
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:43pmYes, so true… another right “bites the dust”.
CultureWarriors
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 12:51pmWell now they officially are the Gestapo. Not allowing the filming of an arrest or any publicly viewable government operation is exactly what tyrannical regimes do. This Administration has a lot to answer for. I hope we investigate the hell out of them. The Obama Administration = tyranny on display!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAN9f9clmig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_CsEgIfUX0
Citizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 1:18pmyea i dont get flu shots cause i dont trust em.
and yes if i was a jihadist id be trying to get to tsa agents also so they would plant the bomb.
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 1:22pm@Citizen
And if they let the government *DO* it (not oversee it, lordy boy, what planet you on), then the government needs to produce a warrant. As has been explained to you countless times by countless posters.
Please, go troll somewhere else, your schtick has run its course.
Report Post »alexmom2007
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 1:30pmUmmm, Hey DEMOCRATGIRL: why haven’t YOU started a class action lawsuit on behalf of all “we the people” if you are so outraged or are YOU the one doing the armchair quarterbacking?
TSA was only supposed to exist for TWO years after 911. As usual, the government seized the opportunity to create this huge monstrosity that becomes more and more invasive in order to make all of us feel at risk and “dependent” upon the government for our “safety”. Just like the USPS, DMV, and countless other government entities, TSA is broken and inefficient. AND I see the writing on the wall: TSA employees are going to get more and more power hungry and enjoy humilitating all of us in the process of trying to continue “breaking us down”. This has little to do with true security.
Privatization of airport security is the ONLY answer here!!!!
The only answer to this m
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 2:21pmyes I always found it best to stop the pictures before they are taken
Report Post »That is always easier for my Nazis than waiting and having to destroy the pictures later.
Himmler taught me that.
Major Infidel
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 2:26pmI think it’s great…
Do you people want security or what? Christ oh mighty! We friggin cry about everything.
I fully support the TSA. They can backscatter and feel me up anytime as long as everyone else is getting it too.
You people would cut off your nose to spite your face wouldn’t you? Man up and quit crying, they don’t want to touch you anymore than you do.
aamador
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 2:37pmGod, I love this country! This is a unique nation where the public can bring down the mighty with a wooden box and a piece of paper. Let’s not fight each other the target is clear and in front of us. Let’s all stay level headed and direct our fury where it belongs. Personally, I think the communist are trying the old top, down, inside out trick. Otherwise this whole thing does not make sense. We all need to stay calm and alert.
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 2:46pmAnd so it begins. Can’t refuse a search and opt not to fly. Can’t video them violating your body. Next they will blind fold every one. The brown shirts have begun. Look out to where they expand. This is only the beginning to see how many stupid sheeple are willing to submit on the flimsyist of excuses. This is how it started in Nazi Germany. Search of one turned into searching of all. But it was only for their own safety. It is not beneath thuis administration to stage a terrorist attack to justify removing rights and freedoms. You don’t think Soros could not arrange an incident? The man who toppled 4 countries and made billions doing it. He does it for fun. Said so himself. He can buy any thing and any one he wants.
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 2:54pmDIAMONDBACK you must be emailing Warner D-Va and Webb D-Va. These two never answer your questions. Just some unrelated garbage answer from a junior staff member. How do I know it is a staff member? Too well written to be either congressman(lower case intentional). These two also support any thing Reid tells them too or Obama wants. They seem to think they do not answer to the people. We will show Webb in 2012 and Warner in 2014. We booted Boucher D Va last time because he thought he worked for Pelosi and Obama instead of the people. Flood their emails. Tell them you will vote them out if they continue to pay allegiance to Obama instead of the voters.
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 3:22pmNew TSA procedure. Any one who refuses a scan or invasive pat down are removed to a sperate room. Ordered to strip as the agents leave the room. As the door closes and locks the earstwhile passengers hear the omnious hiss of tghe carbon monoxide. Oh wait that was the Nazi death camps. Seems they started the same way. For your safety and to delouse.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 3:27pmCitizen comrade:
Report Post »I personally invite you to TRY to intimidate me, ah come on you can doooo it!
And as for the TSA, I don’t fly very much anymore, getting older. But heres one for the next time I do, as in my game plan.
I enter the security screening area
IF I get choosen for a scan, I OPT OUT
when TSA attempts to pat me down, I make them WAIT untill a Uniformed officer of LAW enforcement is present, and I then clearly state “I am informing you TSA that I know that you are NOT law enforcement, that you have ZERO law enforcement authority or permissions. I am asking this Uniformed officer to complete my pat down as per his Law enforcement training. You TSA do not have my permission to touch or search my person, and should you attempt to do so I will instruct this Law enforcment profesional to place you under arrest for sexual and physical assult, which is a third degree felony. Should he choose not to arrest you, then being left with no other remedy, I will defend my person from your TSA assult with all my physical strength.do you understand this?”
Then I either get felt up by a Law enforcement professional, or I knock a TSA guy into a nightmare called prison.
sportlock
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 3:39pmWait till they get a load of me. I plan to work up a stiffy right before my pat down.
Report Post »Bob Holland
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 4:20pm1. This is PLAIN TYRANNY. How long will America stand for it.
Report Post »2. I understand the law about finishing the security inspection. You don’t want someone who has a bomb to be able to just walk away. However, there needs to be some way for those who don’t want to be assaulted this way to escape the groping.
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Posted on November 22, 2010 at 4:32pmThe next time I fly I will ask for the hottest chick to search Me and
tell Her to check me 110% twice. I will demand She missed 3 major spots.
Ugly people ask for the best looking person of the other sex.
What’s an ugly person? They know who they are.
I would pick the lady in this main picture.
Ohio Biker
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 4:56pmSomehow there is much much more to this than meets the eye.
Report Post »FToth84
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 5:11pm“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty.” -Benjamin Franklin-
PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!!!
Report Post »Mr Sanders
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 5:21pmI wonder if the TSA are just pawns for a greater hidden purpose? We’re all watching one hand – what’s the other doing? I agree, this is getting weird and intense. This is ‘Police State’ security proceedures. There has got to be other ways to do this. Isreal does it, the most confrontational and disputed piece of ground on planet Earth, (BTW – Earth means dirt) and they GET IT DONE. We have got backward thinking public officials that have never stood on a wall, layed in a trench, ditch, or foxhole that don’t know the meaning of the word S E C U R I T Y.
The nude/strip-down to avoid a patdown is lude at best BUT, unless there are some fresh surgical lines on the body…. I would say he passed the strip-search/patdown. Just bring in the dogs to sniff him down and he’s done. (barring B.O. – sorry, just trying to keep it light ;-) ) I think he’s got a case here – phone/video… and you have the right to walk away!!
Is the airport owned by the government? No. Although FAA reg’s the place and the flights therein. I think this will seriously hurt air travel, and the travel industry at large. You can call me crazy but I think we’ve just pointed out the next,“gotta help us out” scenario for our progressive friends: gov’t takeover/bailout of the airline industry & restrict citizens from moving about the country.
I don’t think the Patriot Act, made permanent now by our Progressive friends, is helping to keep us safe anymore. The power is being abused and they crossed the line!
Just be cool though everyone, be vigilant, state the truth but do it with ‘cool’. Stand firm and never let them see you run; walk with honor.
Can someone say “cardcheck” or “papers please”. terrible.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 5:35pmThis is absurd. When will this madness end?? Does anyone really believe that by taking these outlandish and pathetic measures we are any safer from terrorism?
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 6:05pmIf I was a terrorist I would be doing 2 things:
1- laughing my ASS off at America for stumbling all over itself trying to figure out how to prevent the next major attack.
2- planning my next major attack outside the scope of where America is focusing.
Do you really believe the terrorists are going to try their 9-11 tactics anymore? Box cutters and shoe bombs? No…. they’re on to something different. They know they can’t get through the old fashioned way, so while we’re busy “over here” with this latest distraction, they’re hatching up their next move “over there”. It reminds me of a classic case of misdirection.
Report Post »Get em to look ‘here’ so we can do this over ‘there’ and not be seen.
ltb
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 7:17pmCitizen said: “am i saying let the tsa do whatever they want – no but just being patted down to go on a plane isnt being round up to be put in slave camps.”
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When do think we should stand up and tell Our government [sic] that it has gone too far – when our government starts violating our Fourth Amendment rights with virtual strip searches, or when our Government [sic] rounds up your family to send them to concentration camps? Do you think, when the Jews were being pushed into cattle cars destined for Auschwitz, that German Jews wished they had stood up when they were told to move to the ghettos, or maybe they wished they had stood up the day after Kristallnacht, or maybe they wished they had stood up when the Nazis started comparing them to cockroaches? At what point leading up to the holocaust, do you think German Jews should have realized their corrupt government was taking them down tracks that stopped at Auschwitz?
I’ll tell you when I think they should have realized it… September 14, 1930, when the Nazis won 107 seats in the German Reichstag with 18% of the vote. If German Jews hadn’t said, “oh well, only 18% of the country voted for these people, it’s not like they’re rounding us up and putting us in slave camps,” there wouldn’t have been a holocaust. Ask yourself one more question: Where exactly do you think the train we’re on right now is going to stop?
Report Post »grandmaof1
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 8:40pmI would love to film at the Denver airport over looking the security area to see just who they are pulling over for the scan and who they are letting go thru. You are allowed cameras in airports so what is the problem. They just do not want proof of their violations.
Report Post »BEARTRUTH
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 8:46pmWhat I want know is why are now the Harbor Police involved ??This is a fedreally policed area..They should have no juisdiction..Is it just now that its become a local statute??
Report Post »addie
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:36pm@citizen…..you may not mind getting a free feel up for a change. Paying for it gotta get expensive after a while….but the rest of us do not want some random stranger feeling us up!
As far as the doctor comment, that is BS! A doctor is a trained PROFESSIONAL, NOT a dumb, idiot, uneducated minimum wage earner getting their rocks off feeling up a kid! Oh, and lets not forget, we CHOSE our doctors, not some random TSA pervert!
As far as strapping a bomb to granny, well when it happens then we’ll worry about that then. But the terrorist are far more apt to just ship a bomb in a printer in the belly of a plane. Oh, that’s right, they already started doing that since the scanners. Why waste a perfectly healthy terrorist by making him commit suicide when they can just ship a bomb in the belly of a plane hidden in something. While the stupid government is focusing on groping granny and printers, the next plane you’re in just might have a bomb in a golf bag in the belly of the plane!
Report Post »WVdad
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 9:52pmCitizen
Posted on November 22, 2010 at 11:00am
lol@ghostofjeffersons feel up comment – child please grow up
im sorry your afraid of someone touching your body it must make going to doctor very tough
many of you may be simple people and not understand that some want you and your lil loved ones dead and they will pack bombs on 80 year old women and kids when they get the chance. Some people are very thought out and calculated and spend all their time thinking about how to kill you and they understand who and what are good cover for them.
you dont think terrorists think – hey they are looking closer at single muslim men who dotn fly very often so lets put the bomb on a old white lady.
the muslim terrorists are waging jihad – please understand what is coming
Dear mr. citizen, unlike you and miss clinton think, I for one am not a terror obsessed American, I am more concerned about the government and the freedoms they want to steal with every opportunity. They are laughing at us with this, just like with the moscue, next, everytime we get pulled over by the police, they want to search our cars and bodys and it keeps going, a line has to be drawn at some point, soon.
Report Post »copper
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 3:16amI am amazed that so many people are willing to give up their 4th amendment rights with a smile!!! I have been writing outraged letters to congressmen every day and will continue. I also sent one to John Boehner, Michele bachman and Jim Demint.
I mention that when the Vandals took over Rome the Romans acted like they were already dead, they didn’t even flinch. The vandals walked in unopposed! That is the majority of this republic. They are the walking dead, clueless they are being manipulated like cattle for phony false ‘security’ while Obama’s cronies get rich and the ranks of the TSA soon to be unionized swell like a bloated dead carcas.
I will NOT give up my 4th amendment rights! I’ll drive or walk if I have to.
Report Post »Sinista Mace
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 9:22amI personally can’t believe you idiots still fly at all considering the threat or supposed threat.
If we all refused to fly after 911 and continued not to fly, they wouldn’t be doing this crap, because they would be desperate for passengers. They would make any concessions necessary to increase fliers.
Should’ve been stopped flying.
I’ll walk before I get on an airplane, not just because of terrorists, but because I don’t want to be sexually molested.
Too bad walking is going to be a problem soon, when they roll out the truck-mounted x-ray backscatter machines to scan your car and body on the streets for weapons.
Report Post »bostonchris
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 3:34pmif they cant profile for political correctness…i want to see obama get groped or microwaved in that toaster..this looks like a population control mechanism..get your tumors here red hot tumors get em while there hot….un f%&^*in believable……..
Report Post »ANGELSHTFMILITIA
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 9:42pmrecord underwear, common give america a break. Thats just as bad as being a pedofile
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