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Martin Bashir: Herman Cain Should Resign From His Church Over Affair Allegations

Ahead of presidential candidate Herman Cain’s expected major announcement Saturday on the future of his campaign, MSNBC host Martin Bashir said not only should Cain quit the GOP race over allegations of a 13-year extramarital affair — he should resign from his church as well.

“If Mr. Cain is to drop out of the Republican race, isn’t it time he consider resigning his position as an associate minister at Antioch Baptist Church in Atlanta?” Bashir said on his show Friday. “If Herman Cain is proven to be lying and drops out of the race, doesn’t that also disqualify him from holding a position in the local church?”

Cain’s church is part of the National Baptist Convention of the U.S., the second largest in the Baptist union. Bashir read part of their statement of faith: “Nothing prevents the salvation of the greatest sinner on earth, but his own determined depravity and voluntary rejection of the gospel.”

“If Mr. Cain withdraws from politics, then he must surely resign his position in the Church because one thing’s for certain: Hypocrites can lie in the pew but should never lead from the pulpit,” Bashir said.

Watch the clip below, via MSNBC:

Cain has been a frequent target of disparaging comments on Bashir’s show: Last month, left-wing author and MSNBC contributor Touré said Cain’s “predatory black sexuality” was “very frightening in this country” and another analyst referred to Cain as “a black man who knows his place.” Bashir himself has jumped in, asking a guest in October whether they thought “Herman Cain can spell the word ‘Iraq?’”

Comments (242)

  • bringiton
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:51pm

    His commentary carries about as much weight as one of the libtrolls on here

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    • motonutt
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 1:05pm

      What would this Godless little wrech really know about what goes on in a church anyway?

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    • mils
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 1:45pm

      true…but…remember he is a personal friend of the “I WON”…so, people like the Blaze give him credence..obviously…
      There are much more important things going on than Herman Cain’s doings, and Bashir’s stupidity..

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 1:47pm

      Martin Bashir less than nothing to offer in reporting, analysis or prediction.

      I don’t know what Cain did or did not do. My primary two reasons to vote for him are tax simplification / fair tax & taking away the race card from war mongering Demoncats.

      Another reason is that he has one he11 of an education. He has a B.S. in Mathematics & a M.S. in Computer Science. There is a saying “The less you know about something the easier you think it is to make it work”. It has been put a little more succinctly by other people. Consider AL Gore who received D & C in science. He thinks that he can advance technology at a certain rate just because he deems it feasible. We have too many lawyers on Congress and not enough doctors, engineers economists & farmers. As people say the law is an a $$. I know of too any people that worship the concept of judicial precedent & think of it as infallible. Well if that is true, then blacks should still be slaves according to those people who believe that the engage in critical thinking but actually don’t. So I like a candidate who is not a shyster (aka lawyer).

      A further reason to like Cain is his business track record. He turned around a whole region of Burger King restaurants & then turned around God Father’s Pizza. It would have been so easy to pull an HP or an IBM & say we getting out of the PC business. Getting out of a line of business is suicidal.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 2:21pm

      That’s not fair to Mr. Cain at all. Why can’t they leave the poor man alone? He withdrew from the race. Give him some peace.

      but……no Newt PLEASE!

      Newt Gingrich’s record is anti-gun. He believes gun owners should be forced to submit themselves to thumbprint scans of a biometric federal gun owner database… just to buy a firearm. I don‘t want Eric Holder’s Justice Department to have a list of gun owners complete with biometric data like thumbprints, and I‘m sure you don’t either.

      Please call Newt Gingrich right now at (678) 973-2306.
      Demand he retract his support for a national thumbprint database and apologize to gun owners.

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    • garyM
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 2:35pm

      If Herman gave her money and she gave him sex, you know what that makes her!

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    • Kathleen
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 2:39pm

      Martin Bashir is making himself irrelevant. Martin would you like to be presumed guilty without any proof? Do you have any skeletons in your closet?

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    • garyM
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 2:41pm

      The fact that Herman turned those companies around was nothing more than good math and making heads roll when anyone failed to do their job, unlike Obama who thinks he can spend 4 trillion on stupid stuff and raise the tax revenue enough to make up for the 4 trillion more to create a surplus! I really don’t think he is that stupid, he trying to put America under on purpose.

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    • RabidPatriot
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 2:55pm

      People like Bashir can never be accused of being a hypocrite since they have no standards or morals in the first place. If you never speak out against immoral activity then you have a free ticket to do whatever you want.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 3:23pm

      RabidPatriot

      Your post is so right on!

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 3:26pm

      garyM

      Obama was a community organizer & state senator. He worked on education & housing for Chicago’s poor.

      The results is that Chicago still sucks to live in. Which makes him a darling of the Demoncats. There is no profit in a cure, just the medicine that you have to periodically take.

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    • Bluefish49
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 3:51pm

      If this doesn’t prove Martin is an idiot nothing will……

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    • ambrosia
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 4:04pm

      Martin BashMouth is quite possibly the ugliest, most vile drag on air.

      Why don’t you cast your wicked aspirations on the likes of proven
      adulterers, sex fiends and rapists-
      namely Bill Clinton, John Edwards, Al Gore, the entire Kennedy Clan and on and on.

      Why not report on all their vicious attacks on women,
      and sacrificial lambs like Mary Jo Kopechne,
      drowning in Teddy-Boy’s car while he saved his own catholic life
      and all the party-frat boy mischief that sadistic Dems are famous for ?

      Oh yeah,
      and what about VERA BAKER-
      Obama’s little side dish who conveniently disappeared to the Caribbean
      once his little secret got out.
      Wonder who is fitting THAT ongoing bill……most likely the DNC or Soros ?

      Do your job, Mr.Bashir…and do it thoroughly !

      Don’t ask Obama about her…we already know that he’s a proven liar.
      Ask Michelle about her and judge the truth by the exasperation on her pretentious face.

      You want to pick your battles, SmutFace
      but you can’t choose your war.

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    • Faith1029
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 4:07pm

      You know we can all speculate if it’s true, if it isn’t true. No one knows or will ever know. Only Herman so I hope now he will just be left alone to live his life.

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    • robert
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 4:33pm

      “Martin Bashir: Herman Cain Should Resign From His Church Over Affair Allegations”

      Please keep your dispicable Muslim mouth shut and quit denigrating Christians. It’s taking you away from your plans for jihad.

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 6:15pm

      Let me add to all the other comments: Bashir, you’re an IDIOT. You know nothing about Christianity.
      GOD FORGIVES. Church is exactly where he needs to be, whether guilty or innocent.

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    • chazman
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 6:47pm

      … you would be smart to leave America, you muslim freak, before someone tacks yer azz to a barn door somewhere out in the styx!

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    • smackdown33
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 8:48pm

      “Herman Cain Should Resign From His Church Over Affair Allegations.”

      Is it just me, or does anyone else see the foolishness of this statement. I heard someone say that Bashir does cocaine and meth on a regular basis. Since that too is an allegation, shouldn’t Bashir resign?

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    • marion
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:14pm

      Well, under Sharia law Herman would be guilty until proven innocent. As a matter of fact he would brobably be stoned to death before he could prove his innocence. Either that or he would be considered a Demigod. All kidding aside, as noted by so many before, Herman Cain tried to help one of those friends we all have, that leach that you just feel sorry for all the time and just can’t say no to, and someone came up and gave her a little bit better deal than what she could get from Herman at the time. You can look at the woman and tell without a doubt she is NOT telling the truth whatsoever and making it up or saying what she had rehearsed several times but not enough to make it viable. I hope Herman finds out who set her up for this and he nails the hell out of them. I wnat the truth to be found and exposed for what it is, the dirtiest trick in the book. A good man has been harmed for no reason other than someone which competed on equal ground, to which this Progressive-Alynski tactics would not be effective based on the response of calling Herman an Uncle Tom, Oreo, not an authentic black man, and all those other racist statements by the Left.

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    • BuzzardSays
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:10pm

      Martin Bashir? What would that fool know about a Baptist Ministry? I think that fool would do well to simply help everyone out with a disclaimer…as in the following.
      “Good evening viewers. I am a liberal through, and through. My visceral hate of all things conservative will allow me to readily prostrate myself on the altar of asinine insinuations towards Christian leadership and how my beliefs are superior to their church charters. And even though I’ve never read the bible I am quite sure all this forgiveness crap is just a ruse meant to trap the weak minded clingers into the horrible life of conservative values, which fellow liberals claim to be a mental disorder.”

      Martin Bashir please kiss my a$$.

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    • AOL_REFUGEE
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:15pm

      This insignificant little @sswype twit just might make the mistake of insulting the wrong person one day and end up disappearing like Jimmy Hoffa.

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    • jzs
      Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:37am

      Dang! I was looking forward to paying more taxes under the 999 plan. That was a good plan. It stuck it to the poor and middle class, and gave the richest 1% a big break! If you’re like me, you make in real dollars no more than you made 20 years ago, but the richest are making 300% more than 20 years ago! Americans become more and more free the greater the income inequality between the richest and the rest of us. When the rich own everything, Americans will know true freedom. At that point there will be no class warfare. Toward that end I support paying more taxes myself, so we, as a country, can support the upper class. Because I yearn to be free.

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    • toto
      Posted on December 4, 2011 at 3:39pm

      Bashir is such a hollow soul. Where is his outrage for Al Sharpton, Jesses Jackson and ALL of the other Democrats whose sexual deviations from the most basic moral standards are legendary. Makes me scream hypocrite at my computer!

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    • lillymckim
      Posted on December 4, 2011 at 5:59pm

      Bashir should resign from TV forever

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  • garyM
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:48pm

    I look for Herman to suspend his campaign like Romney did in 08 when he got slaughtered by Huckabee and McCain in the primary, which is the eqivilent of dropping out, it just sounds better than dropping out. Suspending a campaign instead of dropping out may allow him a little more flexibility on what he can to do with the campaign money he has received.

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    • motonutt
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:53pm

      I heard the accuser admit this morning that it was “not a love affair”……whatever that means.

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    • teebubba
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 1:15pm

      @Motonutt…That is her way of saying that it was a physical sexual relationship that both knew and maybe even agreed that there was no long term emotional commitment to each other…..recreational in nature.

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 1:20pm

      It means .. that there was NO SEX .. which means there was NOTHING to this! She tried to destroy a good man … she and others need to be watched VERY carefully to see WHO (Soros, Axelrod, Sterns etc) pays them off! This is nothing but dirty tricks again by the Democrats .. they have lies and such fed on by the MSM … we have PROOF on OBAMA and they will NOT report it!

      TEA!

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 1:48pm

      Motonutt

      His accuser admits it was not a love affair? A sex scandal without sex? In which case which corcle of he11 do you think she belongs in?

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    • garyM
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 2:34pm

      Maybe it was a Bill and Monica deal! I guess you can have a sexual affair without it being a love affair, I think that would describe probably 60% of marriages today in America, they are legalized by the state really not Holy Matrimony!

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    • godhatesacoward
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 7:38pm

      Ask and you shall recieve.

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  • I SPY
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:46pm

    Bashir should go back to whatever third world dirt worshiping country his curry smelling *** came from.

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    • RMAC22
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 1:04pm

      Just wondering… IS MARTY BASHIR here LEGALLY?

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    • rambosharley
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 1:43pm

      Hear Hear!

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    • I.Gaspar
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 2:00pm

      RMAC22:
      Good question…and can he PROVE he has not slept with the first “lady”?…or her husband, for that matter?

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  • wildturkeywatcher
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:46pm

    Too bad Martin Bashir does not understand the constitution: one is INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY. I haven’t seen any proof yet. We would have had to believe Bill Clinton were it not for the little blue dress. I’m waiting for one of these accusers to come up with a little blue dress. Politics really pollute some people’s minds – presuming Bashir has a mind.

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    • BuzzardSays
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:26pm

      A man has got to come to grips with what some people are willing to do in order to achieve their evil goals or the evil goals of an organization, namely the Democrat party. The Democrats are perfectly willing to say and do anything to destroy a man. It is not sex when Bill Clinton is humping a young interns mouth under the Oval Office desk. And we should somehow excuse it as consensual when the semen stained dress comes into evidence or the fact that Monica was powerless intern, a silly little girl, and were any business manager to do what Presidente Clinton did they would be fired, and sued, and incarcerated.

      Quite honestly I don’t give a rip for any politician anymore. I say clear the freaking swamp and shut off the lights they have become a freaking abomination in the sight of their people, their constituents, and God.

      But, Cain is not a politician now is he. I‘ll still vote for the man given the chance and then we’ll see some change.

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on December 4, 2011 at 2:37am

      WILDTURKEYWATCHER, I agree. It is just another blow against Christians. They have never proven any of these accusations, and they don’t care. The damage is done. Bashir has no say in whether or not Herman Cain should leave his church. I doubt very much if the people in Cain’s church would want him to leave. He is a good man and I am angry that the Progressives have destroyed his chance to run for office.

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  • paperpushermj
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:45pm

    Dear Mr Bashir
    I Feel the need to remind you that there is as must proof of Mr Cains Infidelities
    as there is of you being a Journalist in good standing.

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  • Look4DBigPicture
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:44pm

    Does anyone honestly care what sanctimonious Bashir thinks?

    It’s not yet known what he plans to do. However, withdrawing from the campaign would not an admission of having an affair, but an admission that the campaign has been destroyed. Liberals are known for besmirching their opponents when they can’t win with facts. All of these women apparently have a history of being irresponsible and devious. Until Cain is proven to be lying, then I believe him.

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:56pm

      If I may say It is well know that Arabs have a less then stellar opinion of Black People after all they have enslaved them for Centuries and still do. Bashir has Two gut feelings about Mr Cain one is he is a Republican the Second is that he is Black Republican.

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  • Daveed
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:42pm

    Martin should, of all people, not cast stones. You don’t leave church because you sinned. If that was the case nobody would be in Church. Church is the best place to be when you choosing to sin, because your heart is convicted of the sin and that could lead you to repent and ask for forgiveness, first to the Lord and then to the people you hurt, then forgive yourself.

    This is between Herman, God and his family. Just because Herman was brave enough to stand up to the revoluntiary Leftists in our Government, does not mean he needs to be politically devoured by the same people of Mr. Weiner’s character, Mr. Bill Clinton’s character and their failed ideologies and over inflated egos.

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  • Bubba777
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:41pm

    Ask Jesse Jackson.

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  • YepImaConservative
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:38pm

    …Tawana Brawley is on Line 1 and Jesse Jackson’s Love Child is on Line 2… for Mr “Basher.”

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  • teebubba
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:38pm

    Martin Bashir can go f..k himself. Just one time I’d like to see one of these “stud” politicians like Herman Cain stand up in a press conference with his wife on his right and his mistress on the left and say meet my ladies….”this one here raises my family and this one here keeps my mr. johnson happy”.

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  • Lordchamp
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:37pm

    It’s time for an offensive folks. I’m sick of this crap and being told who my candidate will be. It’s high time we beat them at their game and there is more of us than there are of them. Overload their system. We should each pick someone at MSNBC and make accusations about them. Force them to expend money and time dealing with it until it drags them under just like they do to us.

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  • ares338
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:35pm

    This world is full of people who love to tell everyone else what they should do. Blah….blah…..blah

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  • right
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:35pm

    Not that any of us care what Bashir thinks.

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  • Uechi
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:33pm

    And Marty should go back to herding sacred cows in India. Why should anyone resign from anything based on an allegation. An allegations is just that an allegation.

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  • garyM
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:33pm

    Herman shouldn’t resign from his church until he goes through the Biblical process with the church leadership. The Pastor and the elders should meet with him and ask him questions, if they find him to be guilty, he should be given a chance to repent and be restored to the fellowship after they see evidence he has changed, if he was found to be guilty and refuses to repent, then Herman should not be able to be in any kind of leadership position in the church and his minister credentials should be revoked. That is the Biblical process for a church member who is thought to be caught up in that kind of sin! That process is hardly ever followed by churches anymore. They just turn a blind eye!

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    • garyM
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:42pm

      From what I’ve heard about the local church Herman is a member of I doubt they will use the biblical process. The Baptist association should remove him from any leadership position Nationally, unless he be innocence. Each local Baptist church is autonomous with no control by the National Baptist Leadership in each church. Each local body does it’s on thing according to what they see is Biblical. They only band together nationally as a group to be able spread the Gospel in a greater way. Some denominations are controlled on a national scale, not Baptist!

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    • idarusskie
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 2:23pm

      Even if he is not guilty he should resign as a associate minister. Sometimes its not about guilt its about the reputation of the church.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 3:29pm

      GARYM

      “Herman shouldn’t resign from his church until he goes through the Biblical process with the church leadership. The Pastor and the elders should meet with him and ask him questions, if they find him to be guilty, he should be given a chance to repent and be restored to the fellowship after they see evidence he has changed”

      Exactly.

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  • paulusmaximus
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:29pm

    Who is martin bashir?

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  • NDPINDNT
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:29pm

    It has really gotten bad in America when you can be destroyed by allegations. It’s happening on the job, in church and in politics. You don’t need proof or facts. Just throw it out there. Let the media take over. I’m seeing this used more and more in politics. This is real sad that Cain was taken down by his enemies though something like this rather than the political platform for which he stands for. Good luck Herman!

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  • Buddynoel
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:28pm

    Marty: All because you take your orders from the Obama Administration, not all black people have to. I know you would prefer if all black Republicans were shackled and whipped until they start behaving the way you master controls you. But blacks in the country were freed by the Republican party a very long time ago and despite the group think of our 24-hour media, that hasn’t changed. By the way, Marty, our Baptist church has a prison ministry. Obviously your religion doesn’t believe in forgiveness. And, in the end, when we find out that it was you who lied about Mr. Cain, we will find forgiveness for you as well.

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  • gmoneytx
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:24pm

    It’s sad, but Bashir is like the rest of these media idiots…they think what ever is on the tube is the truth…He‘ll end up in a loony bin if he can’t separate fact from fiction.

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    • db321
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:37pm

      Good Comment – You have to think these Poux Reporters walk off the news set chuckling – They can’t possibly really believe some of the things they are saying. Some are truly redefining propaganda.

      Report about the vacation that the phony and chief is taking for 12 days.

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  • CatB
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:24pm

    ALLEGATIONS!!! Since when do you resign from anything especially your church because of allegations … If Bashir were a CHRISTIAN he might understand that more than ever Herman Cain and his wife will need the support of their Church friends. Geez these progressive foreigners really are ignorant!

    God Bless Mr. Cain and his wife .. as for Bashir …. being a lady I can’t say what I really think of this son of a camel.

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    • mils
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:31pm

      Allegations..no proof of what went on….wow..what has our nation come to?.., that we listen to people like Bashir?..

      I think Obama should resign from life because he’s a failure..a proven failute

      However, I do not believe Cain is anything but a red herring in this nomination process..we are so focused on him and these whiney ass (I just want to do what’s right and tell the public we had an affair, PUKE) women, that other things are slipping by unnoticed. O
      His church?..oh get a life

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  • kansas hawks 3
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:23pm

    Will some one please tell me why msnbc is still on air???? Bashir is a real looser he has Cain convicted already.. Why not demand that the women prove their allegations?

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    • Lordchamp
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:29pm

      They are only still on the air because WE THE PEOPLE allow it. When we choose to stop it they will go away. I think it’s time we did.

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  • Baddoggy
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:20pm

    A Church is not for the sinless. It’s for sinners, and guess what, we all are sinners. Martin you need to repent so you don’t burn in hell!! So STFU.

    I dont even think Herman is going to leave the race, much less his Church.

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  • YUP YUP
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:20pm

    Way to go Mr Bashir. Well, I heard that you had an affair so I think that you should resign from your Lefist, anti-liberty, Maxist job. I have no proof but you should still resign. What a tool.

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:18pm

    martinbashir, you slime-y piece of camel presents, you should GO to a GOD-believing, GOD-fearing church, you would be amazed

    and

    forgiven

    by the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY WHO somehow has let you live this long.

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  • Sam Brown
    Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:17pm

    Cain is probaly really confused. After all the defense of Bill Clintons affairs Cain can’t understand how the left is attacking him over his. Nope he isn’t smart enough to be a president but does have the same morals as most of them.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:27pm

      If being accused of something makes you less smart, you must get accused of lots of things.

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    • Sam Brown
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:42pm

      If he isn’t guilty then why would he quit? If he isn’t guilty he should be getting a lawyer after his accusers. To date he is either guilty or not smart enough to fight back. I was giving him the benefit of a doubt on guilt. Maybe you should use your head for something other than a hat rack.

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    • TheE
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 6:02pm

      Hey Sam, first of all, he’s dropping the race because his numbers have taken a hit from all of this slander, and it has put undue pressure on his family. Two, he has already retained lawyer and I hope he sues the BS out of these lying whores. Three, he’s smart enough to know when the gig is up and the media have torpedoed your ship. Maybe you should use your head for something other than a rectal plug.

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