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Meet the ‘Celebrity Weapon’ Likely Used to Kill Osama bin Laden

Meet the Celebrity Weapon Likely Used to Kill Osama bin LadenA number of off-the-record sources have told reporters that it was the Heckler & Koch 416 carbine rifle that was used to kill maniac-terrorist Osama bin Laden.

Popular Mechanics (PM) has published some interesting photos of the HK416, which it calls “the world’s newest celebrity weapon.” While the Pentagon and HK won‘t admit the gun’s role in the now infamous raid on bin Laden’s compound, PM says its use has become “accepted history”:

It is undoubtedly true that U.S. special forces helped create and use this weapon, making it a logical choice for the Naval Special Warfare Development Group operators who swept bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

PM goes on to share some fun facts about the weapon:

German weaponmakers designed the HK416 specifically for, and with input from, U.S. Army special forces. Ten years ago, they wanted a better gun than the M4, which has a reputation for jamming. (There are those who defend the rifle, but U.S. special forces wanted something different.) The M16 and M4 both use gas tubes…and keep these gases (along with burned carbon particles) inside the gun, fouling the receiver. The HK416 uses a gas piston instead of a gas tube…This method allows the weapon to vent hot gas and burned carbon from the rifle with each shot…

The rifle can fire 800 rounds per minute, but SEALs on a raid would set the rifle to single fire, picking their shots carefully and conserving ammo. It‘s a shame that I can’t pop off a few rounds myself to get the full experience. The techs tell me the kick is remarkably minimal, courtesy of a recoil pad in the butt stock.

If you’re interested in more, click here to check it out.

UPDATE: The Military Times has a helpful graphic that graphically explains how the gas piston system works:

Meet the Celebrity Weapon Likely Used to Kill Osama bin Laden

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  • hi
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:45am

    I only have a Taser. What “starter gun” should I buy?

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    • hud
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:07am

      I like CZ and ruger in 40 cal, good working pistols with decent prices. HK are pricey. Rifles the old M14 heavy but accurate is good for the money. Shotgun News is full of guns to choose from.

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    • awall1231
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:11am

      Id say you should pick up a DPMS panther, or sporticle AR15. They run about $800-$900. There a good reliable weapon that still has a menacing look. You can find them in your local gun shop or try AR15.com and find a used one for even less.

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    • Mort
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:36am

      I would like to have the HK-45 someday.

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    • bobbo865
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:48am

      That depends on what kind of shooting you wish to do. A good quality pistol for home/self defense is probably a good place to start. But whatever you decide you should do a little research on your own, and not just take the word or opinion of a dealer at the gun shop, or strangers on the internet, who’s opinions may or may not be backed up by facts. And also consider getting some training with whatever weapon you decide on. A pistol or carbine class is not just educational, it’s a lot of fun too! And it’s money well spent that can make a real difference should you ever need to use it for real.

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    • ozchambers
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:06am

      If all you are worried about is home defense then a good shotgun. The Remington 870 has a stellar reputation, but I have an 887. If you are looking for Conceal and Carry, I say go with a model 1911. You have good man-stopping power, but the weight of the handgun minimizes recoil. Another plus is you’d be carrying a rock-solid, time-tested piece of American History.

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    • hi
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:16am

      Thanks!

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    • FlCracker17
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:42am

      I agree with ozchambers. For home defense the best starter guns are the Remington 870 and Mossberg 500 pump actions. They are around $300 and just go boom, period. Plus, nothing stops an intruder like the sound of a 12 gauge cycling a shell and the sight of a big scatter gun barrel looking at them. Maybe you won’t have to shoot but if you do your not likely to miss.

      For handguns the .40 or .45. have excellent stopping power, I prefer a .45. Your local range should have a variety of weapons for rent and you should shoot many to get a feel for what fits you best.

      Then practice, practice, practice.

      And tieing in to the article, make sure you clean your weapon. A clean weapon doesn’t jam, at least not in my experience.

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    • shofar
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:59am

      HI – I used to carry the Glock 22 for work. Good weapon and I never had an issue with it jamming or misfiring. If you want something concealable the Glock 23 or 27 are good. I have bear paws for hands, so the smaller grip makes them inconvenient. All are .40cal (personally my favored round) and I never had an issue with recoil control.

      Now I carry an older model S&W 411, still a good weapon, but not as clean as the Glock.

      STAY AWAY from the knock offs, they maybe cheaper, but you will in the long run have problems with them.

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    • Idaho Patriot
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 11:47am

      I just got done with a Glock Armorers course. Here’s a little info that I picked up. The “old” Glock 23 (Gen 3) had a bit of a problem handling the more powerful .40 S&W. The 23 frame was originally intended for the 9mm (Glock 19) Glock uses the same recoil spring for the 9mm (G19) and the .40 S&W (G23) The typical occasional shooter would never see a problem. However, somwhere around 10,000 rounds fired the locking block would tend to get loose. As it got worse, the slide wouldn’t lock up right. Eventually the slide would fall off the pistol. The primary driver behind the development of the Gen 4 Glock is the increased recoil of the .40 S&W. According to Glock the new (and very different looking) recoil spring will stop this problem.

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    • USAMEDIC3008
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 12:37pm

      HI
      If you get the Outdoor Ch. Watch on wed’s Nothing but shooting
      and info from the best.
      Now for a “ starter gun” I would recomend a revolver with good speed loaders
      My choice EAA WINDICATOR 357 mag. 4 in bl.$ around 300.00
      Use 38 spl ammo it should last about three life times.
      Then Practice practice &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&practice
      In time you will now where to go. Important thing is educate yourself
      MYself I carry a Kimber 45 ultra carry II For cbt. I add S&W M&P 40
      Also Mossberg 500 & or AR-15
      Been a shooter 45 yrs+ And learn something new every day

      There is a lot of good advice from good friends here.But in the end
      It’s upto you .
      Good day to all. And to all GOOD SHOOTING…

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    • FrankSpeak
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 6:53pm

      .40 cal semi-auto pistol is nice in a brand of your choice. If you’re sturdy, a .45 cal semi-auto is an ideal sidearm. I like Beretta w/ a 10 round clip.. Long gun…..AR-15!

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    • shofar
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 6:59pm

      The Mossberg is a great shotgun. It was one of the ones we used carry on raids, along with the MP5A3. I still have a Mossberg 500ATP, with pistol grip and 20″ barrel. It is a great home weapon, and will scare the crap out of anyone on the other side of the door.

      Like others have posted, the key to successful and safe firearms use is practice. Not just going out to the range and blowing things up, but learning tactical fire techniques and the difference between conceal and cover. Self defense with a firearm is not only a right, but a HUGH responsibility. Proper training (take classes) will make you a better marksman, and may possibly save yours or a loved ones life.

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  • packrbackr
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:35am

    Lets move on already, they are like roaches. When you kill one there are always more you don’t see.

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  • Docrow
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:34am

    Would love to have one of these but $$$, will have to settle for my Mosin Nagant M44 to scare the politicians.

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  • ginpa
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:31am

    Wow! They have come a long way since my M-1 days. Whatever works to get the bad guys is a good thing no matter where it is made.

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  • Ironeagle
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:30am

    Yawn. Many versions of the M-4/M-16 now have converted from gas to gas-piston upper receivers. You can do it on your own AR-15 for ~$600.

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  • Silat
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:24am

    Yep, it’s fun to be in the business. Bang, bang!

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:23am

    I like the Barrett M107 .50 Caliber Sniper Rifle

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  • Ampleforth
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:20am

    We’ll never know for sure because the Obama administration got rid of the body. Couldn’t Al Capone also be considered a Chicago commnunity organizer?

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:18am

    Whatever works!

    I want a pink one or a red one so the enemy I shoot down will realize he has died at the hands of a very old, very p.o.ed white lady!!!

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  • huufarted
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:18am

    Cowdude: Reverse Engineering something to copy it or reveal its underlying design is probably legal theft and is for certain actually stealing from another. Say what you will about being “smart” but this kind of thinking will never work to the advantage of a nation whose God is the Lord no matter how tempting it is. Besides there is no reason to do it in this case since Colt or another American Mfr. could simply pay a license fee to H&K an build them under license. My guess is the purchase numbers are at this point low enough it doesnt justify doing it at this time.

    There is an old Asian saying “Get out of my ricebowl!” (which is both wise and Godly) which is their way of saying “Hey, i have to earn a living too!”

    In closing it is written “Righteousness exalts a Nation, but sin is a reproach to its people”

    Shalom, Dave/Huuf

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  • Miyegombo Bayartsogt
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:16am

    Happiness is a warm HK-416.

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  • Vietvet1
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:12am

    Wow people, and we needed to know this…WHY????? Do we see if Kabar or Camillus was on his hip? Do we check the shooter for Hanes or maybe the make of watch he wore. Next…. was it a sheet from Penneys that wrapped the body???

    UBL is dead….. NEXT!!!! When will we realize that he was like a gopher in the hammer gopher game…. 223, 762.51, 762.39, 416, 50, 9….. fact… dead is dead…. or is it that they needed some“NEW” headline to continue this story?

    This was no video game ( though they may have one by now). I spent a lot time in the zone and it is real. KUDOS to EVERY person on that mission, not just the SEALs. It needed to be done and they did it. Again…. now the next (Gopher) head is up. Or is this all just a different level of “Morbid Curiousity”?

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  • ITOLDUSO
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:57am

    I do not believe he is dead! One muslim does not kill another! Hussan Oboma probably gave him billions of our $ and exile in Kenya. We need proof,,,etc,,,pics!!!!!!

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    • kickagrandma
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:17am

      @ITOLDUSO~~~ Or maybe in a guest room in the wh or at sorositos’ place/s, etc., etc.

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    • Oldphoto678
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:32am

      I wish President Obama had givin him your address too. Now that would have been cool.

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  • CookieMonster
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:52am

    I guess none of you have heard of HK USA? Centers in Ashburn, VA, Colubus, GA and a new manufacturing plant in Newington, NH.

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  • RN MOM
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:44am

    I am just satisfied that the last thing that went through Osamas head had “Made in the USA” stamped on it, oh and the gun was oiled in a pig oil LOL.

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    • Uncurable wound
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 11:52am

      H K is german.Im not sure what round they used.But as you Im glad hes dead,and Im glad an american did it.

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  • proliance
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:43am

    Yikes! I’m no expert, but it most certainly does not use a gas piston “to launch projectiles.” It uses expanding gas from the fired round to push a piston which in turn cycles the action. An M-4/M-16 uses gas only.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:24am

      Right: the gas is used to cycle the weapon. A piston like that used by the M14 does the same thing but has less heat and burnt powder being applied to the guns bolt. The bolt stays cleaner and cooler. *Note when I was in the service I never had a jam with my M16 or M60. The ones with the problems, were the problem……..

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  • Dry_Drunk_GA
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:43am

    I prefer to think that the SEAL team used the HK MP5-N. This machine pistol is designated the MP5-N (N – Navy) was developed in 1986 for the United States Navy. This model has a collapsible stock, a tritium-illuminated front sight post and a 225 mm (8.9 in) threaded barrel for use with a stainless steel sound suppressor made by Knight’s Armament Company together with suppressed subsonic ammunition.

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  • alr79
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:39am

    I want one……….. We should ask Obamah to issue one to every “hunter” in the U.S. .

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  • Claymore Clacker
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:36am

    “The M16 and M4 both use gas tubes to launch their projectiles, and keep these gases (along with burned carbon particles) inside the gun, fouling the receiver. The HK416 uses a gas piston instead of a gas tube to launch projectiles”

    The only “launching” that’s done by a gas tube or a piston is the energy they direct toward operating the bolt and the loading mechanism. They have nothing to do directly with firing a round off, or, in the more pc vernacular, “launch a projectile”.

    I hate it when dum-dum reporters try to appear knowledgable about technical matters.

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    • Entropy
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:12am

      I know, what an idiot.

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    • john13579
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:11am

      Seriously… people need to leave gun details to gun magazine writers (not that they always get it right, but it’s certainly more likely).

      The gas piston issue is all about cycling the action to load the next round. A jammed gun still “launched” the previous projectile down the barrel successfully.

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    • bobbo865
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:35am

      Dum dum liberal writers who don‘t know what they’re talking about, but have an agenda to push. I agree whole heartedly. And the B.S. about the unreliability of the M4 is 60 yr. old propaganda. There are many manufacturers of quality M16/M4/AR15 style rifles in the U.S. (such as Colt, Daniel Defense, BCM to name a few). Just as there are as many manufacturers of cheap, unreliable, rifles. (DPMS, Delton, Bushmaster) It’s up to the consumer to do his homework and decide where best to put his money.

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    • eddw2112
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:04am

      Excellent point!

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    • TSUNAMI-22
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 12:58pm

      @ bobbo865
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:35am

      Dum dum liberal writers who don‘t know what they’re talking about, but have an agenda to push. I agree whole heartedly. And the B.S. about the unreliability of the M4 is 60 yr. old propaganda. There are many manufacturers of quality M16/M4/AR15 style rifles in the U.S. (such as Colt, Daniel Defense, BCM to name a few). Just as there are as many manufacturers of cheap, unreliable, rifles. (DPMS, Delton, Bushmaster) It’s up to the consumer to do his homework and decide where best to put his money.
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      What do you think of this one: http://tdsguns.com/store/product/9541/LWRC-M6A3-5.56-16%22-Black/

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  • nomercy63
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:36am

    German weapons makers built the gun? We can’t even build a freaking gun anymore!

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    • Mateytwo Barreett
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 2:12pm

      EPA? Everybody I talk to that has been in a position to play with “new toys” has said the same thing. . .Its not the design, quality, durability, reliability. . .and certainly not the cost. The fact that Germans build weapons adopted by the US, is no more surprising than the fact that the Dutch ARE producing the US’s passports. Helluva note!

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    • USAMEDIC3008
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 3:01pm

      Try telling that to
      Smith&Wesson–Ruger–Springfield–Kimber–Colt–Winchester
      Mossberg –I could go on for pages .Do I need to.???

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:50pm

      That’s right nomercy63, The left has about run the U.S. out of business. No accident either.

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  • upstateny
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:31am

    Most likely it was the 416, HK has been used by the special forces for decades. It is the best variant of the original Stoner design ever produced.

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  • NoIPhone
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:29am

    The part of this story that really bothers me is our use of German guns. Not because it is Germany, but because it is not US. We must vote these job killing clowns into unemployment!!!!

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    • CookieMonster
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:48am

      I guess you never heard of HK USA. It inclludes sales and distribution facilities in Ashburn, VA, Columbus, GA and a new manufacturing facility in Newington, NH.

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    • wkw58
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:57am

      Thank you CookieMonster….HK USA rocks!

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    • AAMichael
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:50am

      @CookieMonster Well stated.

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    • The Big Pickle
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:01am

      Having served in the Army, it’s my opinion the M-16/M-4 is a bunch of crap. I’d take the german weapon if I had the ability to choose one too.

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    • Delta D-5-3
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:07am

      Yep, but what’s interesting to me is this comment:

      Quote” Ten years ago, they wanted a better gun than the M4, which has a reputation for jamming.

      Really?? Guess my Colt M4 is unusual as i’ve put a couple thousand rounds through it without ONE jam, or any other problem. 20 years ago, maybe. The newest versions of the M4 are some of the most RELIABLE carbines out there, THAT’S WHY WE STILL USE THEM!!! I hate false statements such as the one above. Irks the hell out of me……….

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:46am

      @ Delta D-5-3… Quote” Ten years ago, they wanted a better gun than the M4, which has a reputation for jamming. Really?? Guess my Colt M4 is unusual as i’ve put a couple thousand rounds through it without ONE jam, or any other problem. 20 years ago, maybe.

      I am guess that you were firing from a clean bench. During desert warfare training at the National Training Center, trench warfare cycle using MILES GEAR, I brushed the side of the trench getting sand into the bolt/chamber. When OPFOR popped up at the end of the trench, I pulled and jammed. I fell onto the buttstock, pointing at the tango, with finger on the trigger and knocked the bolt loose for the shot and the kill. Unfortunately, the soldier behind me killed me with friendly fire. The AR platform jams easily in environmental conditions. The commies had it right with the AK. Could be full of sand, mud, or guts and still go bang.

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    • Cole
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 12:34pm

      While we are at it lets strip all the main guns off our M1A1 and M1A2 Abrams, They are German made as well. Fact of the matter is that the Germans make fine guns. When the day comes when american companies make a weapon that our special operations forces are happy with, they will use it instead. Personally If I was in combat I would want a weapon that works every time you pull the trigger period. German, Russian, Chinese doesn’t matter to me.

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    • integrican
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:30pm

      Nobody has mentioned this little tidbit of info. The Navy Seals handgun of choice is the Sig Sauer P226Navy. The Sig P226Navy is chosen for it’s reliability, accuracy and its resistance to corrosion caused by salt water. Fact: The Germans manufacture quality firearms. When a soldier is in the sh*t he needs these things or he needs a body-bag. I think we can all agree that when needed, we want our guys to be able to win, period.

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  • sbenard
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:28am

    I want one!

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    • Entropy
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:10am

      If you can find one, a semi auto only will go for about $3-4k. I’ll make due with less.

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    • FLYOVERSTATEIOWA
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:57am

      me too!

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    • Claymore Clacker
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:16am

      Yeah, its not like having one of these things is going to turn anyone into a Navy SEAL. I’d have a whole garage full of them, otherwise.

      An M-14, zero‘d in correctly can be just as deadly for whatever situation I’m ever likely to get into.

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    • ozchambers
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:48am

      I’d love to own one also. I’ve fired several variants and calibers of their MP-5 and it is outstanding, although this is a different creature altogether. My only rifle is the M1A, but my Remington 887 is my first choice for close quarters if someone that doesnt belong shows up in my house.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:13am

      you can get AR 15 for 1k.

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    • Whatsizface
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:19am

      The only weapon I see in that pic, is the guy holding it.

      My two cents ($CDN)

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:36am

      Many US AR makers offer similar weapons systems. The hot one is the one with a cool bolt… that you can actually hold the bolt in your hand after firing a mag on full auto.

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    • warhorse_03826
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:08pm

      get an M1A and practice practice practice with the ammo you bought with all the money you saved.
      then go to an Appleseed!
      http://www.appleseedinfo.org/
      you will shoot better than probably 90% of the armed forces!

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  • BOMUSTGO
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 6:57am

    That’s what Gun Control looks like!

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    • Delta D-5-3
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:17am

      Militiaman: Don‘t bash a gun you probably haven’t used in 30 years. The M4 is ultra reliable and was the weapon I carried in the first Iraq war. Loved it then, as I do know. My Colt M4 has NEVER jamed on me and i’ve already put a couple thousand rounds through it. As for carrying an AK, good luck with that too. Have you EVER tried to carry a couple hundred rounds of 7.62 ammo for any length of time……thought so. The AK is about as accurate as a rock. In a heads up battle of AK vs AR, the AR guy will walk away 99% of the time as it’s actually an ACCURATE weapon as opposed to an AK that just throws a lots of rounds downrange, but can’t hit a barn at 200 meters. But thanks for the laugh anyways…….

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    • militiaman
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:34am

      ” Delta D-5-3
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:17am
      “Militiaman: Don‘t bash a gun you probably haven’t used in 30 years.”

      What makes you think it has been thirty years, old guy? Don’t give me any orders either.

      “As for carrying an AK, good luck with that too. Have you EVER tried to carry a couple hundred rounds of 7.62 ammo for any length of time……thought so. ”

      Of course, but my, my, my, how upset the little fella is, because he has some kind of fetish attached to his weapon. It’s beyond you to impart information in a civil manner. The opinion posted by me is shared by a lot of men, so it just isn’t me who is the target of your moronic rant. Everybody’s out of step but you, aren’t they?

      “The AK is about as accurate as a rock. In a heads up battle of AK vs AR, the AR guy will walk away 99% of the time as it’s actually an ACCURATE weapon as opposed to an AK that just throws a lots of rounds downrange, but can’t hit a barn at 200 meters.”

      The AR IS more accurate than the AK, but you probably didn’t notice I never claimed otherwise, because you were so wrapped up in your fanatical vitriole. Read my post again. “…..jamming has always been a problem, and many have expressed the opinion that they would rather have the more reliable AK-47.” There‘s nothing there that speaks of accuracy and the preference for the AK 47 was a reference made from Vietnam era LRRP’s who were able to use the AK-47 at least for awhile before they were o

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 6:51am

    .
    Good for HK. Should have cut his head off, stuck it on a pole and left it as a reminder……

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    • ToddinVB
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 6:58am

      Indeed. Like they used to do with coyotes in Texas, when I was a kid. Hang the dead ones on a fence to warn other coyotes.

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    • Aaron in Polk County
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 6:59am

      Celebrity Weapon! Take that you Hollywood Liberals!

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    • ISeeDanger.com
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:02am

      Actually it was the HK416C.
      Just FYI…

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:32am

      The Blaze is censoring posters by blocking IP address
      Do what I say not as I do…..

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:40am

      Nice. I’d like to play with one of these toys.

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    • Doodidle
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:57am

      darn, now I need to buy a new gun to keep up. I like the piston idea way better then a gas tube. I bet you dont have to worry about cleaning it half as much! GO HK!

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    • Family_Guy
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:15am

      It must be a slow day at the Blaze — this is just an ad for the weekend Gun Shows.

      Just speculation, every SEAL gets to use an armory piece of their choice based on mission & proficiency. Go figure!

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    • militiaman
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:40am

      “German weaponmakers designed the HK416 specifically for, and with input from, U.S. Army special forces. Ten years ago, they wanted a better gun than the M4, which has a reputation for jamming.”

      The M-4 is basically just a shorter version of the M-16. The M-4 has a 14.5″ barrell, while the M-16′s barrell is 20″. The M-4 has a butt adjustment also and was preferred by special forces and long range ranger patrols during the Vietnam war. Both weapons have a reputation for jamming, and many lives were lost due to that. It’s been reported numerous times over the years, but the higher ups never seemed to care, even though complaints have been uttered constantly.

      Supposedly there have been 35 slight modifications to the M-4/M-16 since then, however, jamming has always been a problem, and many have expressed the opinion that they would rather have the more reliable AK-47.

      I’m glad the HK 416 is now being issued, but something similar should have been designed years ago. It looks like it took the Germans to get the job done, likely because the US military is so wrapped up in high-echelon butt-kissers they don’t dare complain about a Pentagon approved weapon for fear of harming their disgusting careers.

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    • bulletsinthegun
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:50am

      the imporant thing is osama is dead. I don’t if it was a shot gun

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    • srtttu
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:58am

      We still do that.

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    • Mathew Manhorne
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:02am

      Militiaman your history is wrong…. The M-4 did not even exist during the Vietnam war. It did not enter service until 1994. In Vietnam the M-16 variants carbine that was used was the XM-177E2 and to a lesser extent the C.A.R.-15 which are very different in features and design compared to the M-4.

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    • militiaman
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:21am

      “Mathew Manhorne
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:02am
      Militiaman your history is wrong…. The M-4 did not even exist during the Vietnam war. It did not enter service until 1994. In Vietnam the M-16 variants carbine that was used was the XM-177E2 and to a lesser extent the C.A.R.-15 which are very different in features and design compared to the M-4.”

      Yes, you’re right, my friend. I’m not speaking from experience, since the Vietnam war was before my time. I was thinking of the Car 15, not the M-4.

      But, in any event, the HK 416 is long over due.

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    • Delta D-5-3
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:23am

      Mathew, you are EXACTLY correct. The guys who bash AR’s have usually NEVER fired one, and think an AK is the ultamite weapon. If you want a cheap weapon that just throws a lot of rounds downrange, but can’t hit a BARN, buy an AK. If you want a weapon that can reach out and touch someone at say 400 meters reliably, get an AR. THERE’S A REASON WHY WE USE THE M4 PLATFORM, IT WORKS!!!!

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    • Dragonfly92667
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:32am

      Hooyah!!!!

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    • John 3:16
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:37am

      I prefer a 12 guage 3″ mag with .00 buck shot for distances between 0- 25 yards, firing 11, basicly 32 cal. bullets with one pull of the trigger. Hard to miss even under stress. These are the most versital weapon and much less expensive.

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    • American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:38am

      I bought my AR15 as a piston system. It’s practically identical to the HK416, slightly different in body modification but essentially does the same thing. Instead of gas kick back the gas stays in the gas block up by the barrel and pushes a piston rod back to push the bolt back. It’s a cleaner system and I enjoy shooting it. Never jammed on me yet, unlike my M4 back in the day, although I put a lot more rounds through my M4 or a weekly basis then my AR15….

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    • Mauser KAR98K
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:39am

      Umm….The gas tube doesn’t send the projectile, it sends the gas down the tube to push the bolt back against the buffer spring, which in turn manipulates the hammer back, and the bolt returns forward, feeding a new 5.56/6.5/6.8/.308 round (operator’s choosing) and locks back into the chamber.

      Same thing happens with the HK-416, but no gas going back into the receiver/bolt. The gas injection system can be summarized as throwing sand into your engine to make it work.

      So folks reporting news don’t have a clue about firearms, yet they want to ban this part and that part because of what they see in the movies.

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    • Bloody Sam
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:40am

      The HK 416 is an AWESOME rifle. You can load it, charge it and bury it in 3 feet of mud for 24 hours…pull it out, aim it and fire until the mag is empty. It is super reliable.
      I wish I could afford one.

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    • Whirling Dervish
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:42am

      ……….going once …going twice….. nope!!! … still no buyers.

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    • david3755
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:44am

      That head may be stuffed and hanging on a wall next to Saddam in George Bush’s Texas ranch house.

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    • jakartaman
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:55am

      Do they make an 800 round clip?
      I feel so inferior with my Stag .223 AR-15

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    • rangerp
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:56am

      Shooting is very near and dear to my heart. The sad thing, is that very few Americans understand shooting anymore. I am all for gun rights, but I see a trend that bothers me. Many lead slingers out there, but very few marksman these days. I shoot All Army, CMP, and do a little multi-gun. When I go to the local civilian range, I see the “tough guys” with all of there toys out, slinging lead down range. Most of them like to blaze away at the 25 yard line (with a weapon that is capable at 300 and beyond). Most of them do not apply fundamentals, know nothing of the ballistics of their particular weapon, and do not look for real target feedback, or go to the range with any sort of plan on how to improve. Shooting is not masculine or tough, it is shooting. It is an application of math, physics, geometry, fitness, patience, self control…. Thus the reason it is so easy to teach girls how to properly shoot. Good shooters spend way more time at home doing dry fire drills, holster drills…. They do not drive to the local gun club, get out every gun they own, then just blast away. they practice at home, then they go to the range with a plan on what they will work, get feedback, then figure out how to get better. Many will run out and try to buy one of these HKs. Most will not need one, and would do better learning how to properly use what they already own.

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    • rgranger
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:59am

      ” The HK416 uses a gas piston instead of a gas tube to launch projectiles.” LOL, almost fell out of my chair!

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    • rangerp
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:10am

      @Mauser KAR98K
      You are correct, the media is generally ignorant to anything related to firearms. Funny how anytime some one uses a rifle in a crime, they get labeled a “sniper”. Snipers are rare, and sniper work does not happen at 30 yards away. The new piston ARs are the craze right now. What most do not know, is that while they shoot much cleaner, the piston driven ARs stuggle to get any where near the accuracy of the gas guns. I picked up a piston driven carbine after my last trip to Afghanistan. I was very dissapointed with the accuracy. It cycles like a dream, but could not get better than four inch groups at 100 yards. Cleaning it afterwards sure was nice, as the bolt remains clean, especially when compared to the gas guns. I sent it back to the manufacturer, they claim to get it inside of two inches. We shall see.

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    • joyfulmom
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:14am

      Yes, Osama bin Laden is an evil man and he is dead. Dead. It is appointed to every man to die. How ’bout you? At least you have not murdered anyone, right? You’re not that bad, right? Did you know that the Bible says if you have hate in your heart it is as though you have murdered in your heart? Have you ever hated anyone? Well, let’s see, by using the 10 commandments, let’s see how good you are.Have you ever told a lie?Yes, you have, that would make you a liar. Have you ever stolen anything, no matterwhat the value?Have you ever said God’s name in vain? Using God who has given you breath as a curse word? That is blasphemy. The Bible says that if you look upon a woman with lust in your heart, it is though you have committed adultery. Have you ever looked upon a woman/man with lust? This is just a few of the 10 commandments, and as you can see, you are a liar, blasphemer, thieve, and adulterer at heart. Even the good deeds you think you are doing are tainted with selfishness, pride, and wrong motives.The Bible says that there is none righteous, no not one. The good things you think you do are like filthy rags before a Just and Holy God. And when you die, (for ALL will die), and you stand at the Judgment seat of God, would you be innocent of guilty before a Holy God? Guess what? You will be guilty and deserve hell. Good News: Jesus Christ died on the cross your your sins and took the punishment we deserve on Himself. Fall on your knees and cry out for mercy for your sou

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    • joyfulmom
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:37am

      Good News! Jesus Christ, the son of God, born of a virgin, came to earth (Christmas),
      to die for our sins! He Kept the law perfectly and was without sin and on the cross, He
      took the sin and punishment that we deserve on Himself, that all that would repent, (turn
      from your sins), and ask God to forgive you of your sins, and put your faith and trust in
      the Living God, Jesus Christ, that He would forgive you of your sins and give you everlasting
      life in heaven when you die. You cannot save yourself from hell…Only God can open your
      eyes and show you truth. Fall on your knees and pray for God’s mercy on your soul. Cry
      out to Him. I pray He will show you this TRUTH.

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    • walkwithme1966
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:38am

      What are you guys going to do when they come to take the guns away? Just curious!!
      http://wp.me/pYLB7-13c

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    • SgtB
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:43am

      @Doodidle,

      You don’t have to get a whole new rifle if you already have an m-16 and want to get rid of the direct impingement system. Check out adams arms. Also, you could just as easily by a complete upper from any number of reputable companies that produce the ar in piston form.

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    • riseandshine
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:45am

      Too bad they didn’t get the perpetrators of 9/11

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:55am

      @walkwithme1966… “What are you guys going to do when they come to take the guns away? Just curious!!”

      At Thermopylae, 1,000,000 Persians lost lost 20,000, yet failed to disarm just 300 Spartans. 80,000,000 law abiding Americans would resist even harder. This we promise.

      Molan Labe

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 11:02am

      I guess I would believe it if the HK was somehow linked to KIDNEY FAILURE and somehow caused Bin Ladin to have MARFAN’S SYDROME and that the HK bullets have time travel capability to go back 10 years and kill Bin Ladin…

      Lies lies lies.

      Only idiots believe your lies, government. We don’t care how many details you fabricate to try to corroborate your LIES.

      LIES LIES LIES.

      The truth is not in them.

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    • DTOM_Jericho (escaped PA)
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 11:23am

      This was not the gun that killed Bin laden. He was killed back in 2001/2002 with an M4.

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    • Evileye
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 11:46am

      One of problem with the first AR was lack of chrome in the barrel McNamara saved a $1 dollar a gun going against colts advice. Dirty chambers,Custer had the same problem with 45/70 black powder riffle that would foul the gun after a few shot. same results dead troopers.
      The AR platform has proven it self over the years.The old saying”it SH–t where it eats ”
      refers to the gas into the receiver to activate the action.
      I Have a AR that will put 10 shot into a dime at one hundred yards constantly on a calm day.
      It take practice like anything else. once a years I hunt prairie dogs and it is devastating.
      8×32 night force scope and have many hit at 450 yards.
      Also own a AK 47 will not come close in performance.
      now if you were to throw both in the mud and run over them with a truck count on the AK to come out shooting.

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    • Uncurable wound
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 11:49am

      sinasta,dtom I dont disagree.Do you know where info can be found on this?

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    • dalfsson
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 11:56am

      it’s a nice article, and i’d love to get one of the HKs. but you can tell the author doesn’t know much about firearms. the AR type weapons do not use a gas tube to launch the projectiles. the gas tube vents gas all the way back to the bolt, to work the action of the weapon. unfortunately, this also sends allot of carbon into the workings of the bolt. that, and the misconception back in the 60′s that it was a “self cleaning” weapon led to many of the myths about the AR family of weapons being unreliable. the HK replaces that with a piston and rod system to work the action, witch greatly reduces the amount of carbon buildup and heat around the bolt.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 11:58am

      I want one.

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    • airborneoathkeeper
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 12:19pm

      Amen Brother.

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 12:24pm

      The AR is a nice weapon. I have one. I would choose the AR over an AK any day. Less recoil, more accurate, lighter.

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    • Rightsofman
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 12:36pm

      Yeah but I wonder who got more info on this raid. The terrorists or us. The Administration and the media couldn’t wait to broadcast every detail of how we gathered information, planned and conducted the operation including what specific unit was involved. Than God they at least didn’t reveal the I.D.s of the men involved. I guess we won’t be using the same op plan in the near future.

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    • tomloy
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 12:53pm

      I would have brought him back to the US. Put him in any prison in general pop, and he’d last about 10 seconds.

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    • Europeandesigner
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:19pm

      I have long stopped to be amazed at the scam stories the American people being fed.. bin-Laden died in December 2001 from natural causes, he had kidney disease..
      Your arrogant, serial lying, usurping, Chicago thug community organizing Muslim needed a ‘pick me up’.. originally this was planned for just before the 2012 election..
      Do you really believe you are “free?” Well, you need a lot more to be called “Brave” then getting excited for killing a dead man..
      Small wonder the rest of the world don’t take America serious any longer..

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    • Rumplestiltskin
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:21pm

      “The M16 and M4 both use gas tubes to launch their projectiles, and keep these gases (along with burned carbon particles) inside the gun, fouling the receiver. The HK416 uses a gas piston instead of a gas tube to launch projectiles” sez Billy Hollowell.

      Correction: the gas tube and/or the gas piston does NOT “launch” any projectiles. Their sole purpose in life is to cycle the action of the bolt which ejects the spent cartridge and feeds a new cartridge to the chamber. PERIOD. The cartridge, when struck on its primer by the firing pin, “launches the projectile”

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    • Mauser KAR98K
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:27pm

      @Rangerp

      Roger that on the piston uppers. I think right now it is a fad, mostly generated by the “myths” and stereotypes of the “unreliability” of the Stoner system of direct gas injection (though i still stand behind my observation from before). I’m a firm believer that a clean weapon is a happy weapon. Also, ammo, springs, buffer tubes, lube, and good ammo goes a long way. Then there is the shooter.

      I, too, have seen a trend of lead dumpers over precision shooters. I now have to drive over 100 miles to my nearest CMP/National type match. I got my M1 from the CMP, and have been shooting and reloading for it since. (Ammo out of question puts the shooter in question). I started young with pistol shooting and weapon reloads, but when I started out with long arms, I was drilled by a Korean war-vet, Marine, in marksmen ship. Though I am humble civilian with some police and security work, I treat weapons and the sport as if I was an active duty trooper/operator. Les hype, better results, zero accidents.

      Thanks for your service.

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    • J.C. McGlynn
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:47pm

      To whom it may concern: abarms.com – makes a gas tube replacement kit using a gas piston and blot carrier replacement parts out of boron/nitride impregnated metal. They have a replacement blot, as well. For the whole kit some where around $600 dollars.

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    • Classical Liberal
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:51pm

      The gas tube system is reliable when clean, generally speaking. On the other hand, vets of the war on terror know exactly what a little sand will do on windy day.

      The nearest range for 200 yard shooting by me is nothing but sand and on a day when the wind is blowing, I’ve seen all the AR platform shooters cuss at the unreliability of the weapon as it jams over and over again. AK shooters don’t have the same proble
      And can still touch targets at 200 yards.

      Personally, I’ll eat my hat If I see an AR out perform my M14.

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    • Redhandpaddy
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 2:20pm

      Hell! I misread the headline and thought for a moment that I missed breaking news. Mistook the word Osama for Obama.

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    • *************************
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 2:26pm

      “can fire 800 rounds per minute”

      … invented to disarm you on the first trigger-pull …

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    • deadeye1534
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 2:53pm

      @RangerP And how every weapon that has a scope is a sniper rifle. Lol

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    • @ Coyote2
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 3:12pm

      @RISEANDSHINE
      They never looked for the perpetrators of 9-11. Silverstein same as told the world that on PTV the next day.
      many times does OBL have to die.
      They’ll just invent another fall guy when they pull off their next false flag operation. Remember “By Deception, Thou shale Make War” is their motto and how they operate!

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    • Jefferson
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 3:43pm

      A number of “ON RECORD” sources said UBL was dead 10 YEARS AGO.

      Madelene Albright was one of them. Benesir Bhutto from Pakistan was another. (killed a week later after that interview)

      Enjoy the stroking your weapons talk though..

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    • Jefferson
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 3:55pm

      @COYOTE2 Nice to see a spark of intelligence on here every now and then. It gives one some hope for the rest of humanity.

      It’s amazing to read some of the brainwashed comments on here, from those who think they’re “enlightened”.

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 5:42pm

      How many volts of current does it take for a Rodin Coil inductor with vortex geometry to create a photonic shell with spherical geometry?

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:26pm

      Delta D-5-3, 400 yards is about the maximum distance for the 5.45×45 cartridge. If you really want to reach out and touch someone, go with the M14, 7.62×51. I have several of both types. My best AR-15 is the S&W M&P.

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:37pm

      Great, half my comments never post, but I make a mistake and presto, there it is. I of course meant the 5.56×45. Got it mixed up with the 5.45×39, the russian caliber. I have one AR in that caliber.

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:40pm

      Sinista MACE, current is measured in amps….

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:43pm

      rangerp, sounds like the ‘lands’ had the wrong twist.

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    • TheBees
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:51pm

      I don‘t care if that’s the one they used or not! All I know is he’s dead and I want one of those weapons!!

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    • Viet Vet
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:29pm

      joyfulmom, I am most certainly a sinner!

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    • recondenny
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 12:17am

      Copy thta.

      I’m sick to my bones about the know nothings who speak of “the reputation” of the M-16 for jamming. I arrived in country 5/69. By then the Pentagon dumbasses figured out they were not using the type of gun powder recommended by the manufacturer and it was causing excessive “carbon” build up in the tube. They also had chromed the bolt and added the forward assist for jams. In 14 months as a RECONDO serving in a Battalion Recon Platoon (RTO) I NEVER HAD A JAM OR THE ADDED FORWARD ASSIST. The guys in this platoon never complained of jamming–EVER. I thinl that was for the soldiers who couldn’t explain why they still had full magazines after a fire fight. In a rgular straight leg infantry company, only about half fire their weapons in battle–forever.

      OK I’M DONE. FEEL MUCH BETTER lol

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 12:19am

      Amps amps amps. my bad

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    • Quigley
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 10:32am

      Why am I not surprised. Here we are, fighting ALL of europe’s battles(SEE GATES NATO Speech), and American Firearms manufacturers aren’t arming our troops? And recoil pad on a semi/rocker? We have wussified our boys beyond all reason. I am quite sure the HK is superb weapon. I just think that Colt or Springfield could build it HERE. For dollars, not Euros.

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 3:06pm

      I’m a S&W M&P 15-22 owner.

      Used as practice for AR.

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    • Classical Liberal
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 11:13pm

      @recondenny, so you are old enough to serve in Vietnam, and finish your post with “LOL”?

      Face it, sand grit or mud in small amounts will mess with the m16′s cycling. Same goes for all modern ARs. Crap ammo is also an issue for these weapons due to carbon fowling up the working parts.

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    • jackrorabbit
      Posted on June 12, 2011 at 12:10am

      Now send it to our border guards, so they have a fighting chance against those that are coming across the border.

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    • militiaman
      Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:33am

      “recondenny
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 12:17am

      “I’m sick to my bones about the know nothings who speak of “the reputation” of the M-16 for jamming. I arrived in country 5/69. By then the Pentagon dumbasses figured out they were not using the type of gun powder recommended by the manufacturer and it was causing excessive “carbon” build up in the tube.”

      So you’re a Vietnam vet. I respect you for that, but first you say you’re tired of hearing someone refer to jamming, because you say the weapon worked for you o.k. But then you site one of the problems complained about: The usage of powder that caused the shell to expand in the chamber, which caused jamming which you claimed wasn’t a problem. It is those poeople who were in LRRP’s and other recon outfits who complained about jamming. I’ve known some of these men, and they‘re not cowards who didn’t fire their weapons. On the contrary almost all of them are impressively decorated. A lot of them were graduates of Recondo school also, which isn’t known for producing cowards. Except for a scant few, they were Airborne qualified also, with most originally part of the 101st, And, was it really the powder or just an excuse by the brass for not properly checking the weapon out before buying because the brass gave the o.k. for the purchase?

      Rim shear was also a problem. The important point here is that lives were needlessly lost, because the brass refused to heed the warnings.

      m

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on June 12, 2011 at 1:16pm

      One simple solution for fouling.

      Rodin coil vortex geometry electromagnetic rifling with conductive projectile. A bank of capacitors discharges high voltage pulses through the vortex geometry coil, propelling a kinetic conductive projectile.

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    • Secret Squirrel
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 7:47pm

      .
      Okay, you non-gun folks.
      Explain how this weapon shoots 800 rounds a minute with a magazine that holds 30 rounds?
      You’d have to change magazines 27 times in a minute, nice trick.

      H&K makes nice guns. But let’s be realistic.

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    • The Rear Guard
      Posted on June 17, 2011 at 3:16am

      John 3:16, I argee on the shot gun. I used a Win ‘97, #4 buck(27 lead pellets in the NVA asses) & brass shells in the paddies along w/M14 in the ‘70’s. A good bush cleaner and no ? asked after the subject was faced w/the 12 ga tube.

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