Meet the ‘Preppers’ — The Americans Stockpiling Food & Water for a Possible Collapse
- Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:39am by
Billy Hallowell
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The world’s a scary place. Wars, famines, corrupt politicians, terrorism, imploding economies — the list goes on. There are plenty of issues worth fearing, which is why a subset of the nation is preparing for what they see as impending calamity.
These individuals, dubbed “preppers,” are stocking up on food, guns, water and other items that they may need should the economy erupt or a massive natural disaster strike. With so many possibilities for problematic occurrences, these individuals want to ensure that they can live beyond any tragically defining moments.
Most preppers are fearful of the prospects of no governmental structure — something that some see as a possibility amidst economic woes and political strife. Back in 2009, a Newsweek report described this phenomenon:
In the late 1990s, Y2K fears brought survivalism to the mainstream, only to usher it back out again when disaster didn’t strike. (Suddenly, unused survival gear began showing up in classifieds and on eBay.) A decade later, “preppers” are what you might call survivalism’s Third Wave: regular people with jobs and homes whose are increasingly fearful about the future…
Watch some preppers discuss their lifestyle, below:
Reuters published a report this weekend, highlighting some of the preppers out there who are stockpiling and awaiting what they see as the inevitable. To begin, there’s Patty Tegeler, a 57-year-old who lives in Virginia’s Appalachian Mountains.
“In an instant, anything can happen,” she said. “And I firmly believe that you have to be prepared.”
Tegeler’s home has essentially been prepared for whatever may come. She has a large generator, water tanks, portable heaters and enough freeze-dried food to lock herself inside and to keep nourished for two years.
Wondering how she secured these items? There’s an entire market that caters to these individuals (most vendors operate on the internet). These companies sell many of the items that Tegeler has in her own home, as they teach skills or sell the products needed to ensure individual and family survival pending disaster.
The Reuters article even mentions Glenn Beck:
Conservative talk radio host Glenn Beck seems to preach preppers’ message when he tells listeners: “It’s never too late to prepare for the end of the world as we know it.”
Additionally, it goes on to further explain the movement:
“With our current dependence on things from the electric grid to the Internet, things that people have absolutely no control over, there is a feeling that a collapse scenario can easily emerge, with a belief that the end is coming, and it is all out of the individual’s control,” [Cathy Gutierrez, an expert on end-times beliefs at Sweet Briar College in Virginia] told Reuters.
While many would dub survivalist behaviors as silly or a waste of time, preppers separate themselves from the likes of Harold Camping and other leaders who have set dates for what they promise to be apocalyptic conclusions to societal existence. Preppers like Tegeler claim that their items won‘t go to waste regardless of whether there’s a collapse or not. For these individuals it’s all about being ready for anything that could unfold.
And there’s plenty of media outlets for these individuals to consume, as they share tips and communicate with one another. Blogs like lawyer Michael T. Snider’s “The Economic Collapse” focus upon the themes surrounding the economy’s potential bust.
“Most people have a gut feeling that something has gone terribly wrong, but that doesn’t mean that they understand what is happening,” Snider said. “A lot of Americans sense that a massive economic storm is coming and they want to be prepared for it.”
Then there’s James Wesley Rawles, a former Army intelligence officer, who is behind the “Survival Blog,” an online outlet that preppers regularly read.
“We could see a cascade of higher interest rates, margin calls, stock market collapses, bank runs, currency revaluations, mass street protests, and riots,” he said in an interview with Reuters. “The worst-case end result would be a Third World War, mass inflation, currency collapses, and long term power grid failures.”
A screen shot from the American Preppers Network
Tom Martin launched “American Prepper’s Network” back in 2009 — a daily blog and support network that attracts thousands of individuals each week. The most recent post on the site’s blog reads:
Man-made disasters come in many forms. The most obvious would be spills and contamination caused by deteriorating materials, poor driving, train derailments, pipeline maintenance (or lack thereof), infrastructure collapse, policies that lead to coastal erosion, policies that contribute to widespread forest fires, sub-standard building codes, etc. There are other potential disasters that can be even more far-reaching. These include, but not limited to, monetary policies, tax codes, currency issues, stock market crashes, credit down grades, recession/depression, inflation/hyper-inflation (alaWeimar republic) and devaluation of a currency. Venezuela, Japan and others have experienced these events.
The list of possibilities is long and growing, but again, the prudent man attempts to prepare. For his family and his continued well-being.
This is only a small lens into the prepper movement, but this is nothing new. Throughout history, subsets of American society have remained ready and prepared for whatever may come. While critics may dub it an over reaction, preppers feel they’re simply being prudent.
For a glimpse into some others who are “prepping” for the future, be sure to watch GBTV’s “Independence USA” — a reality show featuring a family trying to live off the grid.
Below, watch a clip that provides a glimpse into the show:
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Gypsy123
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:55amJoseph was prepared and helped save lives what is wrong with us being prepared and saving lives. If you are not prepared you better get off your behind and get ready.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:38amBoy scout’s motto…. BE PREPARED
Report Post »A POUND OF PREPERATION IS WORTH A MILLION TONS OF REGRET
ChiefGeorge
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:44amThe big exception in the room with all the countries he mentioned was that they had the big bad powerful all knowing USA to come and help them with US citizen tax payer dollars. We flood these countries with medi, food and water whenever something bad happens. In our case, we will have no such help, what we will have is UN troops to set up camps here while they watch us eat each other. If you have not set aside extra stores in the most plentiful America, you are stupid. Your plainly stupid because you believe those stores get restocked by magic and all those selections will forever be available to you. If they will not be, you’ll be the person saying over and over again, why didn’t I take advantage of all the plentifully stocked stores to stock a little away for myself and my family for that just in case day. Unless you have a farm and can get in a crop, you stupid. Even if you do you better have a way to convert waste to fuel to run your tractors and other harvest equipment.
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:45amI’d say Noah was the ultimate “prepper” :)
Report Post »mils
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:53am@chief george!…EXCELLENT , AND TRUTHFUL
Report Post »mils
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 11:07amA note about “independence Usa”…IT LOOked contrived, disrepectful, and put preppers in a bad light. there are some nutcases with terrible families, and this is one of them.
Report Post »Roberto G. Vasquez
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 11:27amTruth is, anybody who buys insurance is a “prepper”! And that’s all prepping is = insurance.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 12:05pmThese are the people who will be robbed and killed for their food if things get as bad as they think. Or they will have to kill to protect it. Eventually they will die trying to protect it. Sad but true.
Hope things don’t get that bad.
Report Post »Delta D-5-3
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 12:10pm@MILS….Did you watch the same “Independence USA” as the rest of us? Your oppnion of Frank and his family is WAY off base. But then again that’s YOUR opinion and you know what they say about opinions…………
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 12:16pmBible Quotin‘ Science Fearin’ Conservative American
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 12:05pm
These are the people who will be robbed and killed for their food if things get as bad as they think. Or they will have to kill to protect it. Eventually they will die trying to protect it. Sad but true.
Hope things don’t get that bad.
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Anything for a troll, but yes, you are correct! Meanwhile, where will YOU be? I would rather have the stockpile to defend against those like you who will be dying (literally) to get it.
As I said on page 3, you come to my group with open hands and a willingness to do your part (yes, even you) and we will have a place for you. You come to us trying to steal what we have and you will die.
Report Post »closetotheedge
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 12:32pmYes, Joeseph was blessed by God to prepare for the famine years ahead and he listened as the Spirit of God spoke. And he acted on it. Most today are listening but not acting. Our country is on the edge and in every city,people are scared and unsure what to do. And at any moment,the power’s that be will create a situation that will cause them to take control and hold us indefanitely without charges or warrentless kick-downs of innocent citizens (you and me) for any reason. We know it’s at the door,and not yrs’ or months, maybe weeks. Multi-millions will be held or murdered for being just good Americans and loving our rights granted by God thru our Constitution,Dec’of Independence,and the Bill of Rights, The life liberty and the persuit of our desires as freemen will be scraped for total control by the dark powers working together around the World. Oba hussien was put in by the elites and is playing his part as a “citizen of the world” and doing all for his brother muslums but most for destruction of Israel and USA and bring in the One World Order/One World Religion. Chrislam for right now and then all religions as one. Can Islam ever accept Jews and Christians and infedals such as Russia? Iran/Persia hated them for not being Muslum along with all the countries that won’t bow to Islam. Until the time came to join together with mutual enemies and control of the oil and using Nuclear weapons as a threat but they will use them,Iran,as they wipe out Israel and USA,EU.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 12:38pmTrolltrainer you’re a better person than me. I would allow a cancerous ideology like that of bible quoting bla bla bla.. to fester in my group. I may offer him some help but send him on his way in no uncertain terms to be gone and stay gone. Tolerance of those who don’t tolerate leads to destruction from within. McCarthy was right .
Report Post »followthefounders
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 12:39pmYes !! so very right. The modern way to prepare now is with long-lasting dehydrated foods that retain their nutriution value. We found the best with the people at http://www.StoreNSurvive.com They even offer free samples, so you can try it at their expense at no risk
Report Post »guntotinsquaw
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 12:53pmAs I read the stories of what my fellow patriots have stocked…don’t forget first aid….bandages, antibiotics, saline, blood stop….blood stop and antibiotics can be purchased at any farm supply…Let them laugh..the government normally keeps 6 million MREs’ on stock..so why did they order 400 million last year…
Report Post »lketchum
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 1:51pmI am a prepper and always have been.
We store it all and it is a part of our lifestyle. It is juts prudent and helps us save money and manage budgets.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 2:07pmlol. I didn’t say I would be stealing anything.
But don’t let that make you miss out on an opportunity to again threaten to kill me, good Christians.
Report Post »drphil69
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 2:11pmJust be careful with who you save. We don’t want the next BHO to survive just so we can get run away socialism all over again.
Here are my rules – I will not help Democrats, Socialist, Progressives, Commies, Marxists, or Lefties. Lets get them out of the gene pool by letting them starve after the massive destruction they’re about to dump on us. And if they try to take my stuff, I will donate to them some lead, at high velocity of course.
Report Post »MYHEROISRON
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 2:24pmIt’s better to have all this stuff and not need it, than to need it and not have it!
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 2:35pmAyn Rand said that the takers should live in fear so the Producers could be free and wealthy. If you really believe our American society is going to dissolve, you deserve to enrich the coffers of the industry that makes you feel good by selling overpriced stuff that ends up being discarded over and over.
TEa
Report Post »Favored93
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 3:49pmI like your Joseph analogy. We live in the richest country on the planet and have not had a REAL famine or national food shortage in LIVING memory. (We have had small ones in local areas but nothing national that I can think of.) We should all be “Joseph” and set a little extra aside each month so that if things do go bad (collapse or natural disaster) we will make it.
Report Post »Did you guys know that the stores only have at MAX three days of stock at any given time? If something happens you won’t be able to run to the market to buy it.
I am glad this stuff is getting the attention it is because it would not take much to kill a lot of people and likewise it would not take much to SAVE a lot of people.
Just start with a few extra cans of soup or meat and set them aside each time you go to the store. Even Ramon noodles….they are cheep and keep forever, light weight and easy to make and can be safely eaten raw. Just think a “little extra to set aside” and you will be surprised how fast your food storage becomes a stock. You will then start thinking of other areas that you need like safe water and a “bug out bag” if there is an immediate need to bug out. I am so very glad this is getting attention because we are far to vulnerable.
SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 4:05pmwhy worry about preparing when you can just be herded into the superdome with the criminals of society? Youre very safe in such place. There was plenty of food, water, amenities, and the place is secure. Id much rather be locked into the superdome than have any of my own provisions.
Its amazing that the little commie libs are so surprised to find out that not everyone is spending their money on name brand skinny jeans and triple moco choco lattes while hanging out with all of their commie professors.
Dont worry little libbies, big daddygovt will be there to provide for you in case of emergency. that is if big daddy is not in hawaii or playing golf. In that case youre on your own and no dont come to our homes and demand that we have the responsibility to provide for you and your skinny jeans hobo parade Youve been warned to prep and you fail to do so at your own peril.
Report Post »Unc68
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 4:16pmIn all honesty, with all food and ammo being stored, I will not, would not give out my location and list of prepatory supplies. Not that I won’t help those who I can, but who wants to attract attention?
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 4:17pmThis is typical. The invaders and raiders are gonna come take all of our stuff huh? Man oh man, you really dont know us do you? We are veterans, law enforcement, rednecks, country boys, down home southern fighters, and freedom loving Americans. and youre postion is that you will pry marmaladde from someones cold dead fingers? Boy, you really are a joke. I would suggest you read up on us, boy. Maybe you have us mixed up with your buddies who ask their mamas to bring them milk and cookies while they play video games with the other commies- we are not them. We hunt trap fish grow and fight. Like I said you better read up- we know the people you are- you just dont know the people we are.
Like I said, chump, be gone.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 4:38pmSLAPTHELEFT
“not everyone is spending their money on name brand skinny jeans and triple moco choco lattes while hanging out with all of their commie professors.”
lol. Son, you are delusional. The way you see the Left is a CARTOON.
You‘re picturing the people you described above coming to take your saltine crackers when instead it will be people just like you who are desperate and hungry and didn’t stockpile. It will be vets, rednecks, good ole’ southern boys and their starving wife and kids. They‘ll have guns just like yours and they’ll be a hell of a lot more desperate about using them. There will be more of them than there are of you. If things get that bad, you’d better have an underground bunker to live in.
What‘s most hilarious is that BAG OF SEEDS that Beck wants to sell you like you’re going to be able to have a garden. lol
Report Post »robert
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 5:14pmAt no time in history has so many valid threats converged at one time, with the greatest being economic armegedon, which, in itself, is the basis for large scale societal upheaval.
At no time in history has it been so readily apparent to the average person that this entire ecnomic structure is at such a dire tipping point, threatening to go over the edge.
Newsweek is a left wing radical rag that is a propagandist arm for every left wing cause coming down the pike, and I have no doubt this entire piece was for the purpose of ridiculing people who can see the valid threats brought about by this community organizer’s adminisatration, wanting to create the idea that anybody who thinks their boy is causing dire times is some kind of kook.
This is the age of deceit and Newsweek is one of the deceivers, and it is those like them who have helped bring about the dangerous situation we find ourselves in today.
I have no doubt that once critical mass finally comes upon us there will be many people who will be knocking at the door of the Newsweek propagandists wanting to sit down and have a fireside chat with them, as they will with many rabid, evil ideologues.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 5:28pmBlasphemy quotin lefty
With firm reliance on divine providence… And I’m not your son, boy.
Those will be the people I welcome, Im not worried about them. And if your little commie utopia is that bad, then I guess we just go out swinging dont we? You are more than welcome to live under your tarp in that world. Hope it works out for you.
I dont watch cartoons, but I recognize losers. Your credibility smells like roadkill on a hot day.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 5:33pmOf course, for people like you death is really scary. You think Im scared to die? No, my friend, many of my countrymen have stained the soil with the blood of courage, valor, and honor and to die in that manner would be more than honorable- thanks to all the Vets and the fallen- disregard this fraud, phony, joke of an imposter BQGFC- he’s a plastic banana.
I expect no similar traits to be exhibited by the likes of commies like you. You just lead from the back and pick up the scraps.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 5:49pmSLAPTHELEFT
Listen, kid. I‘m sure you’re having fun living out your “im a Bad A Hero” fantasies on the internet but don’t let it go to your head, SON.
Of course I’m afraid to die. I don’t believe in Heaven and Hell. I believe that when you’re dead, you’re dead. You have no awareness anymore.
It’s kind of insane that someone who DOES believe in fairytale afterlives would live such a paranoid and hate-filled existence. You hate the Left but the Rightwingers are violent, uneducated sheep that need a cosmic hand-holder to tell them how they should live and assure them that their life has meaning. You’re simple-minded, kid. That’s why you CLING to your guns and your religion and fall on threats of violence. Make no mistake about it. A world where you can kill those that disagree with you and stupid brute strength prevails is YOUR utopia, not mine. Now get off Daddy’s computer and get your homework done, boy. You might actually learn something for once in your life.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 6:13pmHeh, you got him all worked up there slaptheleft. His mommy had to yell down to him to quit pounding the keyboard so loud. :-P
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 7:12pmFinally the mask comes off. Time to change your name again.
Thanks to FloridaCracker. I would humbly, thankfully accept that seat.
You see BQGFCBS, thats how we do it in America. I will read and I will continue to educate me as you suggested. Always do. An educated freedom loving American is like acid in the mouth of all progressives. Dont it taste like………….roadkill on a hot day?
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 7:31pm@ Bible Quotin’… you think these people are the ones whose preps everyone will be going after- and you may be right. What you‘re not right about is that these preps will be protected so taking them isn’t going to be any picnic. If you’re one of those coming after mine- you’re welcome to them. After you lift all the dead bodies- maybe even yours- off mine and the pile of empty brass under me.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 7:51pmWolf
nice job not reading anything I wrote. You fit right in here with the rest of the knee-jerk Headline readers. I enjoy pushing psychos buttons. They enjoy it too. Most of you on here are just looking for any opportunity to talk tough and threaten to kill people you disagree with. You do it over and over and it’s easy to initiate. I look forward to rubbing it in when Mittens or Newter loses to Obama this November. As for this post-society scenario, you guys WISH it would come to that. You WISH you could just gun down those that disagree with you. Republiclowns want to take over the world. They crave money and power and pay lip service to religion. You guys are very dangerous people because you’re armed AND dumb. You hate smart people. There’s a reason adam and eve were not supposed to eat from the tree of knowledge. You’ve gotta be dumb to believe all that garbage.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:44pmAnd Don’t Forget…
1. Roll of barbed wire or razor wire
2. Extra gasoline
3. Several empty glass wine bottles
4. Two to four old tires
5. Plywood
6. Extra cash
7. Shortwave or CB radio
8. Chain saw
9. Get kids use to drinking powdered milk
10. Ask doctor what to do if you cannot obtain your pills.
Keep in mind that local police will be ordered to cities and to protect shopping centers and banks. You and your neighbors will be the only law in your neighborhood. It would be better to isolate your neighborhood from the outside than try to control outsiders looking for food and water.
Pray it never happens.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:49pmThose that are beyond 75 mile radius from big cities perimeter are safer. That is about 3 days walking distance. The urbies are in no shape to go past that boundary, bulk of them. They would lose time waiting for things to improve, a two weeks or three maybe, until they run out and set themselves on a path of starvation. They let loose their poodles and chihuahuas a week before departure. By the irony of fate, they may end up as a snack for their own dogs.
Report Post »Marine 1
Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:26amMany of us out here have key military training as well. Jungle ~ Mountain Warfare School ~ Sniper School ~ RECON ~ SEAL ~ Special Forces ~ Weapons & Tactics and the list goes on.
In addition, we are preparing for any event that may come to the best of our ability. That is nothing more than common sense. Many of us also live amongst several thousands of like-minded folks ~ Christians and Constitution-loving people that are not going to tolerate the insanity coming from the District of Corruption (D.C.) or the United Nations.
No one in their right mine would dare confront us because they know they would lose any engagement they would attempt. Moreover, the members of the National Guard units are our neighbors, friends, hunting buddies and many of us, myself included, used to be officers and NCO’s in the NG and the Army.
My suggestion to the Powers That Be (PTB) is to just leave us Americans alone and don’t force us to open up a can of “Whoop Ass.” We don’t want to go there but if they, the PTB, put us in a corner they will regret the day they did. We will fight for our GOD, our Constitution, our Country, our Families and for Freedom from tyranny.
Semper Fidelis
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on January 24, 2012 at 6:19amBubble quoter
Poor poor guy. Just dont have any credibility. Havent heard any threats, only warnings. Nice try. And good for you if you can rub it in if obama gets a second term, we dont put our faith in man like communists do. He will be flying air force one and your life will still be as crappy as it was the day before. but go ahead and “rub it in” if you like.
You are a phony, a fraud, and a complete joke. Tool.
Report Post »Gypsy123
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:54amThen the seven years of plenty which were in the land of Egypt ended, and the seven years of famine began to come, as Joseph had said. The famine was in all lands, but in all the land of Egypt there was bread. So when all the land of Egypt was famished, the people cried to Pharaoh for bread. Then Pharaoh said to all the Egyptians, “Go to Joseph; whatever he says to you, do.” The famine was over all the face of the earth, and Joseph opened all the storehouses and sold to the Egyptians. And the famine became severe in the land of Egypt. So all countries came to Joseph in Egypt to buy grain, because the famine was severe in all lands.
Report Post »mils
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:55amSO WHO CARES?…this isn‘t acient egypt and joseph isn’t going to open the storehouses.
Report Post »I think you mean well…but this is now, be preared now…
ICanComment
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 11:29amI think he’s saying that because Joseph and the kingdom he oversaw prepared for the coming famine, he was able to help others. You might think of it as a case study in preparedness. If you don‘t think it’s all that applicable, I’m sure you could draw inspiration from myriad other sources. Just saying…
Report Post »Unc68
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 4:18pmWe truly each need to be our own Joseph.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:52pmWhen Obama looses the election next November, every black city and town in America will be set on fire and armed blacks will begin moving into the white communities for revenge. All of the National Guard units are overseas and will not be available to keep order. The police will be ordered to disarm the white communities and to protect government buildings. By now you should know the plan.
Report Post »ares338
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:51amMy theory is: hope for the best but prepare for any eventuality. How can that possibly be a bad thing? I have also stocked up on ammo which I think will,be needed and quite possibly from our own government. We moved to 23 acres and are trying to be self sustaining as possible.
Report Post »mils
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:27amWe would rather be prepared & never use, then to need and not have… ammo’s important.. food is too. “prepping” makes sense.
Report Post »National Graphic is putting out an edition focusing on some “preppers”…
We don’t need fancy “stuff”… food stuffs on sale..eg, foods (canned,dried) your family eats on a daily basis.
We have been prepping for a few years now. you could walk in our house , look right at some of our food storage, and never know it…and we’re not going to tell you .
I think, hope the NE and CA burn to the ground before the roving gangs some of you are afraid of, get out where we are…My mother lived through the great depression, and has always put food away..enough for a small army acutally..for a couple of years.
She said there were no “roving gangs” of people trying to rob each other…however, we feel things have changed tremendously…people just don’t have th respect for each other, guns are cheap , so are lives
It’s coming…our great depression is going to be caused by Obama and his kind taking over and destroying our country.
He is not the first, he’s just the latest in our country to move forward with this “new world order”…1st time we heard that phrase was with George 1…
If trusting in God is the “only” preparation people have made….don’t come knocking on my door…As said, I’d rather have and not need….If there is a breakdown in government…we all know there will be trouble, so why not be prepared..?.
Delta D-5-3
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 12:21pm@MILS….You hope the NE and CA burn to the ground before the roving gangs get to you?? Ummm, a little paranoid are we? I live in one of those areas you mention. Guess what, I prepared for all contingencies ie; roving gangs? You think your not going to see raiders in YOUR area? Think again, and wake up man. You BETTER prepare and have a plan NOW. You need more then food and some ammo if your going to survive.
Report Post »mils
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 1:20pm@delta D-5-3
Report Post »we have “prepped” for a few years…bug out etc. We don’t advertise.
It certainly does take more than food and ammo. We try to be very down to earth about it all.
So many of us think our government will be at our doorsteps to help us. However, in not believing this…we have done things…I just don’t believe we need to advertise
Thanks for the advice..well taken…all advice, pointers are welcome. Our advise is to depend upon yourself, and prepare for the worse the best you can,
VRW Conspirator
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 5:45pm@MILS
don’t worry about the gangs in CA getting to where you are…they will be the first ones dead…they will start fires and looting in their own communities first…those communities will either run, fight back, join in, or die… saw it happen during the Rodney King riots first hand and the OJ riots and every time the Lakers won a championship…hood rats are just that…RATS….they get killed first and easy…
those that make it past the first round of looting and fighting will band together and then take over a neighborhood but they will never THINK to venture beyond whatever border they make for themselves to find where all the people that prepared went…they will sit and wait and cry and whine…where is the guberment to save our criminal arses…
i love CA…might move back there after the collapse…you have mountains, beach, desert, and farmland all within an hour or two in any direction..clear out all the liberals and hippies and it would be a beautiful place to repopulate….
Report Post »BlackCrow
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:45amAnd?
Report Post »Comeandtakeit
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:41amWe have lost power during two hurricanes and it makes sense to be prepared for many kinds of disasters and not that hard to do. We lived several days quite comfortably after the last hurricane until the power was restored with our generator. We live in the country with our own well, so that helps. We have not gone into “full scale” preparedness but can at least survive a short time. Even the grocery stores were closed a week or more after the last hurricane. Better to prepare ahead of time.
Report Post »bdwatcher
Posted on January 24, 2012 at 5:36amI was wondering when someone who had been through a hurricane posted. I have too. Several. Within 1 day, water and canned goods will be gone from grocery stores. This is just on the warnings of a hurricane. Batteries will be gone. If you have never been through even just a few days, much less a month without electricity.. you have no idea what is in store for you….none. I have canned goods for about 3 months… Still trying to put a hand well on my property. I can do without electricity, but can’t do without water.
Report Post »jespasinthru
Posted on January 24, 2012 at 7:05pmBDWATCHER, a good thing to have is one of those 80-gallon plastic rainwater cisterns that come with a tight lid and a little spigot near the bottom. Fill it with tapwater from the hose, throw in a cupful of bleach to keep algae from growing in it, and you’ll have drinkable water that will keep forever. Just top it off once in a while as it evaporates.
Report Post »robstoddard
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:39amFunny nobody mentioned shtfschool.com. These are lessons learned by a guy who actually spent a year in Yugoslavia with no rule of law or supporting structures. Complete society collapse.
Report Post »sta
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:25amThat site is what started my prep. His story is amazing.
Report Post »wifezilla
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:41amThis is an excellent site. I highly recommend it.
Report Post »JohnTwoFeathers
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:53amStay the course Rob. Where you live is also something to consider and surround yourself with like-minded dependable people.
Semper Fi
Report Post »SoupSandwich
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 1:41pmMan, that is called Section 8 here. No biggie.
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 2:56pmSelco’s story is amazing.
Report Post »skiz
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:26amIm a prepper!
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:35amWouldn’t you like to be a prepper too…
Report Post »M1A2_Tanker
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:37am“Failure to Prepare is Preparing to Fail”
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:37amwouldn’t ya like to be a prepper too?, be a prepper, beee a dr prepper…..
Report Post »hrankta
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:48amMe too, but I’m fairly new. Every two weeks I buy 50 pounds of rice then vacuum pack it. My dad built a cabin in a small rural community. Taking everything up there. If the SHTF, I’ll be bugging out with my family. The inner cities and suburbs are going to be ruled by organized gangs. Most preppers who bug in to said communities will become targets.
Personally, I see it as only a matter of time. Pretty soon, our debt is going to be so large that other countries won’t lend us money. Then, one of two things will happen: The checks will stop, which will cause the collapse as the underclass will riot, or they will print money, inflation will soar, and the government checks won’t sustain people, then they will riot.
Buy silver so you have something of value on the other side.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:19amI went through my recipe file and found all the recipes I could make with shelf stable goods (canned meats or even – if desperate – what I could kill for the meat) and put extra of those ingredients away. I bought Sam’s spices that I normally use (meaning in large containers), extra oil, honey, etc. The most important thing is that you have to be able to eat it. Just stocking up on rice and raw wheat won‘t do you any good if you don’t know how to incorporate it into your diet. Use recipes you’re already familiar with, especially if you have kids. I even started once in a while substituting canned chicken in my recipes that call for chicken to see if it was edible. discovered I don’t like canned corned beef, so it’s extra dog food now.
Report Post »chazmo
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 11:42amwouldn’t you like to meet Dr. Prepper??
http://www.youtube.com/user/cmobley69
Report Post »mils
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 12:12pm@loriann12
Report Post »Posted o n January 23, 2012 at 10:19am
I went through my recipe file and found all the recipes I could make with shelf stable goods (canned meats or even –
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your post was spot on….I have a neighbor who bought bulk wheat….I told her I didn’t know she baked bread..well, she doesn’t, doesn’t know how.. she read that wheat was good to put away for storage foods…duh….We need to have a little common sense.
jespasinthru
Posted on January 24, 2012 at 7:18pmStoring food is just as important as stockpiling it, because you’ll probably have to deal with vermin like insects and rodents. One of the best ways to store dried foods is in five-gallon buckets with tight lids that are used and discarded by institutional food suppliers (NEVER use a bucket that has held chemicals or paint). You can get these buckets for free from schools, hospitals, nursing homes, jails and restaurants. Or you can just buy clean, empty five-gallon buckets with lids from the larger home improvement stores. There will come a time when they will be very valuable, indeed.
Report Post »pattybbb1
Posted on January 24, 2012 at 7:20pmThe 9-12 Project has a Preparedness Group. Check it out.
Report Post »wethepeoplepress
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:25amOunce of prevention never hurt anyone…
Report Post »boston dotty
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:19ami live in a city (have no choice ) and im a prepper as best i can for my family BUT what do you do if you live in the middle of a city geesh
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:40amboston dotty
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:19am
i live in a city (have no choice ) and im a prepper as best i can for my family BUT what do you do if you live in the middle of a city gees
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Stock up on food, try to ensure a water supply, iodine tablets are a must. My best advice to you would be to have an escape plan IF you have to leave. Head for the Applachian trail. A bicycle would be your best bet, something that can carry weight and has multiple gears. Throw the bike in the car, drive as far as you can and ditch the car.
Mind you this is all extreme worst case. You might be perfectly fine right where you are, people will be lawless at first but would soon band together. Try to help others but stand your ground. Trust in God. No matter what happens here, if you are His then you have eternal life.
Report Post »TexasPreppersNetwork
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 11:22am@ BostonDotty ,
Being ready for most any “Emergency Situation” is a step in the right direction . First Aid Classes , Food Storage , Fire Arms training , etc. are all useful skills that would make you valuable to any “Post Apocalytic” Community . (“Post Apocalytic” in jest… sort of )
What you can do if you live in an urban area is to seek out other preppers and like minded people . There are “Meetup” groups all around America and I’m sure in your area too . Having friends with land outside of any possible affected areas can work to your advantage . Work with what you have and can acquire , and work on an exit strategy for your city . Find the best way out of the city in the event of an emergency , usually not the major freeways . We watched the local news in Houston during Hurricanes Rita, Katrina and Ike . The footage of the freeways was un-real , literally people dying in accidents , pets released along the freeway to fend for themselves later dying . And just thousands of stranded cars out of fuel . Ridiculous . My family takes nice Sunday drives after Church , I have found several evacuation routes for our area should we ever need them .
Again , just do what you can now , and practice , now . During times of stress , fine motor skills go away and muscle memory takes over . In a fight or flight situation having practice in both areas (fight or flight) allows you to make decisions based on experience rather than fright .
Good Luck and God Bless .
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:25am.
Ammo, Ammo, Ammo and more Ammo…….
OK I’m ready……..
Report Post »JohnTwoFeathers
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 11:17amYou can’t eat bullets.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 11:23amUntil the cupboard runs dry.
Report Post »A Conservatarian
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 5:14pmCan’t eat bullets… but they sure catch up to those tasty varmints pretty well.
Report Post »jespasinthru
Posted on January 24, 2012 at 7:24pmAnd squirrels don‘t taste bad at all when you fry ’em up. Not much meat there, though…
Report Post »Dougral Supports Israel
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:21amI think its prudent to prepare for harder times. Supplies are useful in many cases. Weather disruptions, earthquakes, political unrest or economic problems. It could be handy if a family suffered a job loss and was able to dig into previously purchased freeze-dried food to supplement their food supply. Having just a couple of weeks worth of food and water could make a huge difference in an emergency.
Report Post »arfarb55
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:14amI would rather “have it and not need it” than “need it and not have it.”
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:28amThe same idea applies to ammunition as well.
Report Post »Be prepared.
As Trunka said it, We are” Sons a bitch’s”
as Maxine Waters said we should “Go straight to hell”
as President Obamunist said he will “Punish his enemies”
Based on COMMON SENSE
Go buy food. NOW
momrules
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:12amDoesn’t this put you on the DHS terrorist watch list now?
Be prepared folks……hurricanes, tornadoes, Barack Obama.
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:17amBarack Obama = Man made disaster.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:39amYes, there are laws against hoarding. I wouldn’t post anything as far as preperation.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 11:36amAt Patriot: there may be laws against hoarding, but you don‘t see the difference in ’preparing’, ‘stockpiling’ and ‘hoarding’, or one’s Constitutional rights. Nor does the dotgov have any right to say someone is ‘hoarding’ just because they have something someone else doesn’t.
Report Post »Being prepared for an emergency is only common sense and those who fail to prepare are preparing to fail.
KidCharlemagne
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:12am$15.3 Trillion and counting:
http://usdebtclock.org
Tick…tick…tick….
Report Post »Zcat
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:45amActually the debit is more like a $120 Trillion. The $15 trillion does not include social security, medicare, government pensions, military, etc….
Report Post »db321
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:11amIn the 80′s when our Debt hit $1 Trillion – it was unsustainable – now it out of control – Monetary Collapse of our Dollar coming and it is not going to be pretty! Take another Vacation Obama! Enjoy an open check book while you can!
Report Post »JP4JOY
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:08amThe large urban areas will be the first to fall into total anarchy. Gangs or roving bands of people will forage and prey upon those unprepared to defend themselves. Most stores only carry about 3 days to a week supply of products on their shelves and are totally dependent upon regular deliveries to keep the shelves full. Most people don’t have 2 weeks worth of food in their pantries. The likelihood of large percentages of the urban population being murdered within a month is very high. The probability of police forces forming armed encampments to protect themselves and “invited guests” is quite high as there are not enough police to enforce curfews if things get out of control for real.
It’s going to become real interesting for pseudo preparedness geeks. Just to put it into perspective if you merely shoot your gun one time every minute that comes to 1440 rounds in a day. How much ammunition do you have or can you carry? The best defense is a strong offense. Staying in cities is NOT an option, you need a place to go away from large population centers.
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:30am10 k rounds of each
Report Post ».40
.45
7.62×39
.223
enough?
Ookspay
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:30amAhhh, I like my 1000 acres with a stocked pond, fruit orchard, teeming with deer, true Victory garden. weapons, ammo, food storage, seed vault, water purification, generator. My small group of invited ‘friends” and our plans are in place.
I pray it will be a family joke someday, how Ookspay was all crazy and prepared for the worst.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:36amCan you carry all of that PA, along with your essential nutrition (and prepping pans, utensiles, etc), shelter and fire making equipment?
If you live out in the country though, right on, best way to be is to have too much rather than too little.
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:27amGhost,
It is all packed in moisture proof lockers that are easy to carry. Just a short trip from the back door if, (only if) I have to move. I have another remote location w solar power and plenty of water if I need to go mobile. getting there could be an issue, gotta be ready from the first word.
@ Ookspay, They all look at me like I am nuts. BUT if it happens. I am prepared.
Report Post »The only item I am short on is a long range weapon. The .223′s are awesome but I need a good scope. any reccomendations?
balrog25
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:35amShoot Straight and pick your targets. Defense is about stopping the attack(s), not necessarily killing every enemy (though that is nice to think about, it’s not resource effective). Individuals and families can only prepare so much. Do your best, be ready to join with others at some point, and trust the Holy Spirit, it will bring you through to the other side. God Bless.
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 11:12amA friend of mine said if you can last more than two weeks then you will outlive about 95 percent of the population that will die of starvation. Katrina proved him right. Most of those people that listened to the government went to the super dome and if help had not come most of them would have died.
Report Post »If you can find a good community where people are in the habit of helping each other then you will probably do pretty well. Joplin MO comes to mind when I think of a community that will survive.
AxelPhantom
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 12:59pmNeofan,
I wouldn’t count on 95% die off in two weeks considering you can “live” without food for 90 days as long as you have water and no other illness (after 7 days you start to feel like crap, and by 2 months you won’t be able to sit up) Two months maybe, but not two weeks.
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 1:37pmNote to self: Order six weeks more food. :)
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 2:14pmPA Patriot,
You sound well prepared ammo wise. The best advice I can give is pick a very small group of “friends” of like minds, They used to call this a militia, lol. Have a central meeting location, there will be safety in numbers. Other than your select few friends, tell no-one!
As far as a scope, I don’t think you are gonna need to reach out that far, you won’t be sniping, you will be mowing down thugs. With a good AR-15 (223) you can hit accurately at 200 plus yards with an iron sight. But I do have a Eotech red dot on my SIG 556. I like it, very accurate from any viewing angle. And if need be, I can remove it quickly and go back to my iron sight.
Good luck, and I pray you don’t need it…
Ookspay
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 5:14pmookspay
Report Post »Thanks for the reccomendation and advice. Your assesment that long range is not an issue is true.
I had not thought about friendly fire as the thugs will not be wearing blaze orange uniform.
Preparing
Twobyfour
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:25pmAxelPhantom, the population density in cities means a quick spread of communicable diseases. 4 weeks and most people in large cities would be weakened to be susceptible.
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:06amSomething big is a comin
Report Post »My best guess is that it will be a convergence of more than one thing
Possibly a regional war starting over Iran’s Homus blockade plus a Euro collapse and or a US dollar de-valuation etc.
You just have that little voice telling you – get ready!
ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:04amWas that probably an IStock photo of the Beer section right before the superbowl.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:06ammy editing is very bad today. lol
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:01amPossible Collapse ?????
Report Post »Inevitable is more Accurate.
The only way to avoid a collapse, is to get a guy named RON PAUL into the oval office.
LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:15amron paul is a nut, plain and simple.
Report Post »ZeldaZick
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:38amCome on Dude, must everything be about “The Ronz”? Huh?
Report Post »By the by, what‘s Paulzo’s position on Cat Food, Tampons’ and using the Yellow Pages over dialing 411?
ProbIemSoIver
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:54pm@ZELDAZICK
Cat Food, Tampons’ and using the Yellow Pages over dialing 411?
The aforementioned are not acknowledged in the Constitution, therefore they are Unconstitutional. lol. (satire)
Report Post »Arc
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:56am. Elected representatives fail to do what we elect them to do, opening the door to uncontrollable population explosion, wildly erratic political policy, unpredictable stock markets, wildly rampant judicial system, movement away from founding fathers spirit of religion, and allowing the Constitution to be gutted.
Report Post »Nature, survival of the fittest, whether man or beast and a society that understands the basic principles of the pursuit of happiness.
Grasshopper42
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:52amLive life to it’s fullest! Trust, but verify. Be prepared for all contingencies. Expect the best but prepare for the worst . . .
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:58amAmen!
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:50amThis is to be taken with great seriousness. There is a brewing storm that will most likely be unleashed through insidious methods. We have an administration of Chi-town politicians hell bent on completing the fundamental transformation of America.
Report Post »All we need now is trouble in the straights of Hormuz to give the commie in chief a crises not to be wasted.
lukerw
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:50amIf the Electric goes out… I will not have access to Gasoline… no Water… no Heat… so it’s back to the Pioneer Days!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:31amMore likely, it’s back to the late 19th early 20th century days, which when you think about it, weren’t so bad. Though I do prefer the conveniences of the modern age, of course.
If things “collapse” it won’t be for that long, and we will be surrounded by a plethora of easily reverse engineered technology (radios and transmitters, for example, and home made batteries), solar panels are everywhere (not necessarily on homes, but they’re legion in other places/devices). Steam power is a known quantity, and last check, books don’t disappear when electric goes out, so we can easily rebuild on previous knowledge. Throw in the hobbyists who do thingsl ike steam engines, leather crafting, sewing, canning, woodworking, etc. and I suspect that a “collapse” will not be as bad as we think, long term.
That said, short term it will suck, hard, so it’s always best to be ready for a couple of months of nastiness, minimum.
Report Post »justanotherparatrooper
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:50amnope, Im not doing anything to prepare. Nothing bad is going to happen so there is no need to store food, know how to handle various situations or own evil guns. ;)
Report Post »VermontPatriot
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:43pmThere’s one vote for the optomists!
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:48amNothing wrong with being prepared but “preppers” need to look past the short term. The best asset you can have is faith in God. He will provide. Note that I am NOT saying we should not be prepared, but no matter how careful you think you were, when the time comes you will find your preparations were woefully inadequate.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:51amTo further my post, in addition to stockpiling the more important factor is gaining knowledge on surviiving off the grid. Can you live more than a day without electric? Can you grow your food? Where are you going to hunt when everyone is competing for the same game? Can you distill water? Can food? Can you go back to an agrarian lifestyle?
Think longterm, you will have to start over.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:34amKinda-ish agree with you. Though the notion that game will disappear due to overhunting seems a bit out of place in the modern age. If this were 1955 I’d agree, as most men then still hunted, but today, can you imagine Jimmy Emoboy even being able how to figure out a bow or firearm, let alone posess the skills required to bag a deer, or even a squirrel, before he starves to death? Or an urban gangbanger, thinking he can walk into the woods with his gold plated .32 ACP and mack on a deer, well, he’s going to be in for a big surprise…as he starves to death.
Fishing on the other hand, I suspect, will find the ponds/lakes depleted in short order (excepting the Great Lakes, hard to overfish those without high tech).
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:44amOn the plus side though, the overabundance of wild hogs will ensure a ready supply of well-cooked meat…
I tend to agree with your above post in that we would soon regroup and figure things out. It isn’t like we lose knowledge. The problem will be the initial shock and ensuing lawlessness.
Report Post »David286 - FL
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 11:12amTrolltrainer – I’d have to disagree on not loosing knowledge. Depending on the extent of the disaster we could be left without a lot of knowledge.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 12:31pmDavid, true. Even more profound to think about is the knowledge and skills we have lost up to this point that will become necessary once again when we do not have electricity, computers, and advanced tools and tooling.
I tend to think that most scenarios would be relative to what GhostofJefferson relates though. Even losing 50-even 75% of the population still leaves us with many people with skills. No matter what happens civilization has a habit of recovering.
I am not much of a doomsday type, I mostly look at these scenarios as fictional. Not saying they couldn’t happen, but if/when it does it will be unlike anything you have thought of. You simply do not know what will happen. My personal hope is that me and my family are raptured out of this mess before it all comes crashing down. If we are wrong? So be it…We just do what we can when called upon. Tis all we can do…
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:46amIt’s not Y2K anymore…..it’s the ObamaNation……..BE PREPARED FOR ANYTHING!
Report Post »ZeldaZick
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:44amThe desired end of Marxism is enslaving of the working class, destroy the “ownership” class, and a Dictatorship by a few enlightened Collage Prof’s (Like our own Dear Little Leader).
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:44amHeck i have been prepped for a couple of years now. I am ready for the fall. My family has laughed at me. They have called me nutty I am sure they wont be laughing when they start getting hungry.
The Bible is clear when it says there will be a day to come that a days wages will buy a loaf of bread. To me if you arent prepared, you are the one who is crazy!
I would not live in a big city for a million dollars now. When the SHTF the ities will burn to the ground. You were warned by a prepper…
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 8:59amIt will be hard to survive in a population center. I want to be in a place where I can grow crops and hunt. I am not so much worried about stockpiling as I am in keeping my survival skills sharp. The ammo could run out at some point, what then? Knowledge of making weapons and trapping will make the difference to eating or starving.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:38amBaddoggy……….You and I have had our differences but on this issue I agree 100%.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:43am@Troll
Bow hunting is your friend. Arrow making is not terribly difficult (hell, cavemen did it), and your bow can last for decades with proper routine maintenance and upkeep (and a few extra strings of course, cheap and non-perishable).
I honestly don’t see the world collapsing back to caveman technology though. As I see it, the worst will be a few years of 19th century mixed with 21st century (think Yugoslavia as it collapsed), and lots of bloodshed, then quiet as everybody regroups and settles back into civilization.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:45am@TrollTrainer – I am stuck here in the city, yet I have been making what preparations I can; I have to adjust a few things better this month coming up as I can, Some of the tips blazers have given to me are helping out.
Report Post »Jezreel
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 9:52amI am sorry that your family laughs at you. It will be like the story of the little hen that baked a loaf of bread and nobody would help her but when it was done, those who did not help wanted to enjoy the bread.
Report Post »If you are a man and the had of the family, you are to be commended for caring and realizing and taking care of your family instead of having them make fun of you. Keep up what you are doing. The ones that are going to suffer the most are the ones who believed that they were going in the rapture and because of that, did nothing about it.
copatriots
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:06amMade me think of folks laughing at Noah as he built the ark.
I live 20 minutes to the nearest grocery store. The shelves went bare a few years ago when a huge snowstorm hit around a holiday. Was stunned to see how quickly the supply line was disrupted. Learned them to be prepared!
Report Post »AmericanStrega
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:16amThis is in reply to TrollTrainer:
What will you eat while waiting for your crops to grow? A human can live on meat sure, but veggies, fruits, potatoes, beans are needed in order to stay healthy enough to track game, kill it, clean it, and preserve it. I would suggest collecting enough canned food to last at least one year. That will give you time to plant, grow, and harvest a garden. Good luck and God Bless.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 10:48amSorry Americanstrega,
I am stocked up. My post here seems to suggest otherwise, I apologize for not making it clear. Look at my initial posts above. My point was stockpiling is not necessarily the most important thing. Stock up too little and you will soon have to move or starve. Too much and you lose your mobility and also have to defend your property. Each situation is different and you cannot plan for everything. The constant question is, “should I stay or should I go.” Instead of living on stockpiled resources my goal is to place myself in a position where I can survive indefinitely with what is around me.
But yes, crops do take time to grow and even in Florida are seasonable. However, where I live I will not starve and before long I could settle in to the new lifestyle.
Report Post »ZeldaZick
Posted on January 23, 2012 at 4:00pmYa‘ll make’n me homesick for some Bar-b-q’ed gator tail and swamp cabbage.
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