Megyn Kelly Confronts AZ Sheriff Over ‘Political Spin’ on Shooting
- Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:08pm by
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Did “vitriol” and political rhetoric really drive a 22-year-old gunman to murder in Arizona?
On Saturday, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik seemed to suggest as much during a news conference recapping the day’s horrific events.
“I think the vitriolic rhetoric that we hear day in and day out from people in the radio business and some people in the TV business and what (we) see on TV and how our youngsters are being raised, that this has not become the nice United States of America that most of us grew up in. And I think it’s time that we do the soul-searching,” the sheriff said.
Sheriff Dupnik repeated his assertions Sunday when he delivered remarks in an afternoon press conference with FBI director Mueller and during an afternoon interview with Fox News’ Megyn Kelly. Free speech has “consequences,” he said.
When Megyn Kelly questioned whether a law enforcement official like Dupnik should insert their personal opinions into an investigation, Dupnik doubled down:
A number of liberal politicians have applauded Dupnik for expressing his personal opinions so openly while in front of the cameras.
“The sheriff out there in Tucson, I think he’s got it right,” Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., the assistant minority whip, told “Fox News Sunday.“ ”Words do have consequences. And I think that we have to really — this is nothing new. I’ve been saying this for a long time now.”
“I think the sheriff was right,” added Rep. Steny Hoyer, D-Md., who appeared on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”
“Far too many broadcasts now and so many outlets have the intent of inciting, and inciting people to opposition, to anger, to thinking the other side is less than moral. And I think that is a context in which somebody who is mentally unbalanced can somehow feel justified in taking this kind of action,” Hoyer said. :And I think we need to all take cognizance of that and be aware that what we say can, in fact, have consequences.”
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Comments (631)
john w. gault
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:28pmnice job, Megyn!!!
Report Post »imerbusterit
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:40pmit’s like saying rock and roll music causes kids to do drugs or violence. Ridiculous! No one but this suspect is resposible for this crime. Who even knows why he targeted the congress women. The people who lay blame on anyone other than the suspect just has their own agenda and that is disgusting!!!
Report Post »Refounderparty
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:28pmWas that an audition for a political commentator for MSNBC. Think his police career is over.
Report Post »Paleo Archer
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:39pmYES! LOL…He’s trolling for ALL the liberal news outlets…He a hero in their ( Brown) eye(s)…
Report Post »Rob
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:27pmOh my f-ing God!
He just said, “…one party trying to block the attemts of another party to make this a better country.”
OMG.. what a liberal ASS!
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:49pmMy thoughts also. It will be interesting to see if this Sheriff’s Dept gets “stimulated” in some way.
Report Post »TrueToTheCoreAmerican
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:27pmA sheriff out of control. No doubt. He may have damaged the case against the shooter at Giffords event. America doesn’t need protectors of the piece like this biased cop who openly admits to being democratic and is obviously pushing his personal agenda. Cops are not supposed to do that especially when it hinders an active case.
And to think he, this sheriff also carries a gun. That should worry all of us.
God be with those we lost and God help heal the wounded.
Report Post »DLG1956
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:26pmAs long as you agree with the democrats economic destruction of America then your OK. As long as your ok with our freedoms and liberties being eroded as the democrats did then your OK. Violence is never the answer. The democrats should be honest about who the shooter is and what his honest goals were. But passonate disagreement with democrat policies that are going to ruin our country should never be brought into this tragedy.
The democrats are loosing the battle as America wakes up to their socialist/communist takeover of America and they have to resort to smear and lie thinking they will gain the advantage. They won’t!
Imam Obama will try to make this his Reichstag event.
Report Post »tradexpertbuysell
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 12:20amVan Jones said that there must be violence to prompt Obama to do what he knows he must do.
Hope this isn‘t the Reichstag moment they’ve been pinning for. Banner better be up to his metal because I’m sure the FCC and progressives from both sides of the house are going to test him on this one. While the FCC is doing their dirty work, the progressives in congress are going to demand mental health checks on all conservative gun owners. Of course the legaleze language will make it seem like a “fair” idea but we know what the real focus of their evil freedom killing agenda is.
John get ready. Now is not the time to go squishy! Stand up to these bastards. They’re comming.
Report Post »rugin
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:25pmI guess this guy just wants us to all shut up and let the Congress do whatever they want.
Report Post »Pat Alexander
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:25pmThe Sheriff is a convenient idiot that was given a national platform to spout off strictly by chance.
Hoyer: I am ashamed for the people of Maryland. Most of the ones I have met seem smart. How could they have elected this buffoon???
As for Ol’ Bob, doing the interview he leans so far left he walks in circles……
Report Post »BLEMON01
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:17pmWe don’t stand a chance due to the number of Baltimore votes.
Report Post »RobR
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:24pmThis liberal douchebag needs to be fired immediately, or better yet transferred to Mexico.
Report Post »Miser
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:24pmSheriff, you are an embarrassment to law enforcement. Your job is to protect and serve, not spout political drivel
Report Post »Goldenyears22
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:28pmThis sherriff is a radical democrat and it showed. Free speech, he seems to enjoy it, but conservatives are not supposed to have free speech. How the liberals spin lies.
Report Post »SonOfThunder
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:59pmthis guy is a nut bag. the sheriff is a democrap. and it is obvious he is an obama leftist.
Report Post »davecoolworld
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:46pmThe sheriff is disappointed it wasn’t a conservative. But he won’t let that stop
Report Post »him from getting on the soapbox. He FAILED getting into political office on his
platform so now, using this tragedy, he has more cameras in front of him than
he could have dreamed. He is TAKING his 15 minutes of fame.
darlenekay
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:23pmPlease stop trying to link this nut job to the Tea Party. We are not a violent group. I think we can thank Frances Fox Piven for this. She is getting what she asked for — American citizens picking up arms and taking to the streets and taking matters into their own hands. These are whack job and radical revoluntionaries and NOT peaceful, law abiding citizens who make up the Tea Party.
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:36pmThey will always try to infiltrate the tea party but it won’t work cause WE THE PEOPLE are civilized .
Report Post »lizaz
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:02pmNot to mention the communist Van Jones calling for revolution in the streets!! Lots of nut jobs out there waiting to accommodate him!!!
Report Post »Porkeater
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:25pmWho mentioned the Tea Party? You! Dupnik spoke about “prejudice and bigotry”, and a bunch of “conservatives” jump up to say “Not guilty!”
Old time people say: when you throw a stone in a hog-pen, the one that cries is the one you hit.
Report Post »orkydorky
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:03pm@ Porkeater…………………………………………………………………………………………..
I’m an old timer, never heard your saying, never threw rocks at pigs, never have I seen a pig cry, But I figured out where you got your name!
Report Post »Porkeater
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:34pm@Orkydorky, thank you for your generous welcome, and for your inability to understand a simple point.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:32pmOrkyDorky, you can see the typical mindset of the lefty in Porkeater. His sayings I’ve not heard either, but here is one very related one I do recall: “Never try to teach a pig to sing, it will only anger the pig and frustrate you.” So please stop trying to teach Pork to sing.
Report Post »Porkeater
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:59pmQuoting Sparky101: the typical mindset of the lefty in Porkeater.
How is that? Have i advocated socialism, called for a higher tax rate or praised Castro? Have i dissed the military or disparaged America? I thought i was asking someone to clarify a point.
And, how is it so important whether or not anyone else has or hasn‘t heard a saying that i’ve heard? Maybe i come from a different region than you. The inability to have a reasonable discussion does not reflect well on the strength of your character.
Report Post »orkydorky
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 12:08pmWell Porker your right, there’s no way you came from my region, in fact, your probably from moronville in the county of OZ, aren’t you???? As a matter of fact, you could be the wizard. Come on now, you are aren’t you?????
Report Post »Porkeater
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 5:17pmOrkydorky: i am again impressed by your clarity of thought, your boundless civility, and your eagerness to learn.
Report Post »tompaineknowsthescore
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:33pmthere is as little proof that this nutter listened to piven as there is Palin
Report Post »its no ones fault but the shooters
LadybugsTX
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:38pmAh. Porkeater, God love ya. It amuses me that you think we should be “eager to learn” from you. Made me giggle. I can only assume that you have a “smartest person in the room” issue. Good luck with that. Why are leftist so sure that there’s nothing out there for them to learn and that they have all the answers, yet they will do all but cause themselves harm to avoid a truth that does not fit into the reality they’ve created? And how can the “smartest person in the room” leftist with all the answers be so devoid of intellectual honesty? Tell me, do you cheat at solitaire and tell yourself you won too??
I mean really? You went on and on defending Obama’s “bring a gun to a knife fight” statement and how it was a metaphor, blah, blah, blah, but then immediately turned around and condemned Palin’s “reload” statement which is exactly the same thing isn’t it?
Report Post »Porkeater
Posted on January 11, 2011 at 12:22amLadybugstx – you misunderstand me, but God love ya too. In the comment you’re responding to, i made note of the fact that Orkydorky chose to insult rather than even consider the point i was making. At least you have gone further. It was not my intention to defend the President, rather to point out that a certain argument was based on a falsehood. It’s very difficult to have a discussion when folk are so prickly about the slightest criticism or deviation from doctrine. Also when blanket assumptions are treated as truth.
Example: you assumed i have some “smartest person” complex, and within two sentences you were pushing it as fact. Along with which, you assumed much about my political views that you could never know from a couple posts.
As for eagerness to learn, you should know that it‘s possible to learn even from a person you don’t agree with. Or a child. Or a fool. If i am one of these, you can still learn if you choose not to be so hostile. I learn a great deal here, even if i don’t know if i agree with much of it. If you take that as me considering myself “better” or “smarter” than anybody, i advise you to be less insecure about your ignorance. Or perhaps, less proud of it.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:23pmI bet this guy tickled the dems and their pundits pink. Apparently he doesn’t know that some of the most incendiary speech comes out of the White House and targets people who have served this country in the military and those who work hard at their jobs day in and day out. Personally, I resent his implications as they target my family and many of my friends. His job is not to spit out his personal opinion but to get to the truth of this horrible ordeal. Guess he is looking for his 10 minutes of fame and doesn’t know he is being used by the media. He will be out like yesterday‘s garbage when they don’t need him anymore.
Report Post »Porkeater
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:00pmGrandmaof5 said: “some of the most incendiary speech comes out of the White House and targets people who have served this country in the military and those who work hard at their jobs day in and day out.“ Please give one example of such incendiary speech” from the WH.
Report Post »120pages
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:30pmTo Porkeater…
Try this on for size…straight from the White House and more specifically, President Obama:
“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”
Report Post »orkydorky
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:48pm@ Porkeater…………………………………………………………………………….
Report Post »Get your head out of your ass, wasn‘t it Obama that said Fox news was racist and wasn’t a valid news source, and that the Tea partiers were racists and promoted violence? That’s just two, there are hundreds more of these type of statements!
Porkeater
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:30pm“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” President Obama never said that, it was Senator Obama. Same person, but not ex cathedra from the WH. Analyze it. He’s saying, the best way to win is to have a better weapon than your opponent. Not as incendiary as, say, “pull him outside, and beat him to a bloody pulp”.
Orkydorky: “wasn‘t it Obama that said Fox news was racist and wasn’t a valid news source, and that the Tea partiers were racists and promoted violence?” Not entirely true. He hasn’t said that either FOX or the tea party was racist, nor that the latter promoted violence. And, in neither case is the remark in quite the same vein as: “don’t retreat, reload”.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:05pmThose who served in the military are on the terrorist’s “watch list”, also white protestant gun owners.
Report Post »White executives really hate inner-city kids.
Never let a serious crisis go to waste.
Republicans are “hostage takers”.
You don’t have your papers and you take your kid for icecream, something “could” happen.
Constitution is a charter of negative liberties
Porkeater
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:18pmGrandmaof5: “Those who served in the military are on the terrorist’s ‘watch list’, also white protestant gun owners.”
Report Post »- really? were they on a watch list because they served in the military/are white & protestant, or because they belonged to potential terror groups?
“White executives really hate inner-city kids.”
-who on earth ever said that? Beck?
“Never let a serious crisis go to waste.”
-fair enough, but is that really comparable to talk of using “2nd Amendment solutions”?
“Republicans are ‘hostage takers’”.
-and?
“You don’t have your papers and you take your kid for icecream, something “could” happen.”
-well, it could, couldn’t it?
“Constitution is a charter of negative liberties”
-are you really comparing a mild criticism of the Constitution to a public figure saying “don’t retreat, reload’?
hAndyman54
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:31pmHey Porkeater, here’s one right off the top of my head.“ We have to make our enemies pay”
Report Post »The POTUS..
click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:14pmPorkeater. >>>>> “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun! Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl!”
“Latinos, punish your enemies.”
“I want you to argue with them and get in their face”
-Barack Obama
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:22pmCan’t believe that Porkeater, after being “owned” so completely, continues to try to defend his ignorance of things POTUS has said. And like a good CNN soldier, he tries to overcome his error by invoking Sarah Palin. Just another lefty.
Report Post »Porkeater
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:28pmHandyman54: Yes, the POTUS said “We have to make our enemies pay”, but a) he corrected himself, and b) he was specifically telling voters not to withhold their votes. And again, even that is not quite in the class of encouraging disgruntled voters to take “2nd Amendment remedies”.
And to my friend Orkydorky: i tried to reply before, but got moderated out for some reason. Probly will again: the President has never labelled either FOX or the Tea Party as racists. Your memory is faulty.
Report Post »Porkeater
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:42pmSparky101: thanks for your kind observations and generous welcome. And people said folk were unpleasant here. But to the matter raised by Click4cheapandeasyweb:
“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun! Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl!” – as i said before, it wasn’t a president saying this.
“Latinos, punish your enemies.” – misquote. The correct one is in the same thread. And my reply, for what it’s worth.
“I want you to argue with them and get in their face” – quite different than offering to shoot someone, yes or no?
Look, i’m just trying to have a discussion; not a one of you knows my feelings on Flat Tax or Reproductive issues, so tagging me a lefty, or a CNN soldier is a little presumptuous; it‘s no insult if it’s not true, and if it is true, why should i care if you say it?
Report Post »Quicksilver M.S
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 7:51pmPorkeater looks like you could use someone to watch your back!
CLICK4CHEAPANDEASYWEB “Latinos, punish your enemies.”“I want you to argue with them and get in their face” -Barack Obama
I will see your statements from the President — and raise you two Beck’s and his s Love moments!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf33g9ep4YU
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctwqnkWdCJg
Chief Lobster
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:23pmAlthough full story is not out, remember; if considered right wing it is labeled forever, if left (unabomber, FLAN, etc.) press will ignore political views when mentioning. My guess, he is just a loser, probably from a family used to government “free” subsidies, diagnosed ADD (because God forbid you mature, go to college or join military), and probably got his feelings hurt.
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:22pmRemember when Obama joined the UN HRC? Membership has its consequences. There is another case ‘hate speech’ case that conveniently popped up in oklahoma of all places.
I think the Dems are pushing the UN diktat to develop precedents that abridge 1A rights.
Report Post »Michigan Detective
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:21pmThat sheriff is a d-bag
Report Post »Lucy Larue
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:42pmAnd so is Congressman Steny CLUELESS Hoyer! He has done a fine job of abetting where we are today as a nation!
Report Post »Pelosi said,” JUMP Steny!” Steny said,”How high Nancy?”
It’s country not party Steny. I guess you cannot teach an old, VERY old, dog new tricks.
You are a dinosaur. You do not SERVE the nation. You TAKE from the nation!
Sparky101
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:07pmLucy, at his age, Steny (what parent would name a child “Steny”?) has only one redeming quality – he is regular.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:19pmAll this since OBAMA was elected … look at how all the worms have come crawling out of the wood work. All since OBAMA was elected. The commies have come into the light, and under their umbrella come the liberals whack jobs, progressives, socialist’, marxist’, and yes, the commies. And look what they’re doing … it’s right there for all to see … top down, bottom up, inside out. When my back is against the wall I’m gonna come after you …
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:58pmEvery cloud has it’s silver lining. Now that they are all coming out from under their respective rocks, at least it will be much easier to Identify them. Much easier to get rid of them than if they are still all in hiding.
Report Post »spirited
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:19pmMegyn Kelly was e x c e l l e n t!
As for the Sheriff,
Report Post »There can be no back-peddling of his political party beliefs being intertwined with performing his job as an Officer of the Law. He expressed his opinion about what caused the nutcase to kill; two days in a row: “vitriol” and “bigotry”.
fedlibertarian
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:42pmThis guy is an elected democrat; he is no cop. He is a pathetic pos politician using the shooting for political gain.
Report Post »orkydorky
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:23pmI wonder why the good sheriff forgot to mention the fact of the union leaders, Piven, Jones, and some of the commie politicians themselves calling for this very same kinds of actions across this nation? Just like the bills they vote for, or the Constitution of our country that they don’t understand or read, maybe they should read the Ten Commandments! Casting the first stone seems to be the way of life for those of the commie agenda!
Report Post »Jayk Signal
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 3:12amThe Sheriff needs to be investigated as a potential co-conspirator in the crime. He claims to have knowledge of the shooter’s motivations but cannot cite any evidence. We can only assume this is because he conversed with the shooter before the event.
Based on the Sheriff’s words, the most likely scenario here is that the shooter and Sheriff planned this event as a “FALSE FLAG” attack, wherein the shooter would commit the crime and the Sheriff would act as propagandist by accusing a targeted enemy (conservatives) of being responsible.
Either that, or he’s just a liar and political hack (I hope he doesn’t try to arrest me for “vitriol’).
Report Post »Sledgehammer
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:18pmHis carreer is over, he’s outed himself at the wrong time. oh well.
Report Post »Alvin691
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:17pmShe asked why he did it, and all the sherriff could do is focus on his original pollitical narrative. Progrressive, anti-Conservative, anti border-control, and anti-tea party.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:04pmDid he know about this ?
http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/01/lunatic-jared-loughner-wanted-to-kill-cops-he-must-be-a-tea-partier/#comment-232828
Report Post »autoowned
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:17pmAs someone diagnosed with a mental illness, I take great offense to what the sheriff said yesterday by linking those of us with a mental illness to this murderer and that somehow, political rhetoric is the catalist to violence. Illness is not a behavior.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:38pmIf I were you I’d get a second opinion. You don’t sound mentally ill. Probably a Obummercare doctor. Why don’t you apply for the opening position of Sheriff in Tuson. Rumor says they will have an opening soon.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:17pmWhen Megyn Kelly questioned whether a law enforcement official like Dupnik should insert their personal opinions into an investigation, Dupnik doubled down:
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Report Post »Answer this Dipstick :
How did this Obama – devotee GET A GUN in your county ?
VanGrungy
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:15pmAnyone else see ABC around?
Report Post »idrathermisstotheright
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:58pmMaybe he is in custody?
Report Post »davecoolworld
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:42pmABC is JZS
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:16pmDave, he’s back as of January 9, 2011 at 10:58pm, posting his usual inflammatory hatred.
Report Post »kilo62a
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:12pmAlright, let’s face it. From the left and from the right, for politicians and journalists, truth has become an alien concept. It’s all about power position spin.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:29pmDisney World?
Report Post »Obama World?
Time to pick a side!!!
fbw
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:54pmI agree with you. All I see is left and Right whack job’s preaching their hate. The only difference is that so many on the left preach their hate from seats in government or on government money. The killer is a very screwed up person, but I have a gut feeling that in the end he will be shown to be farther left then right in his beliefs. Radicals on both sides work to disrupt.
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:12pmis the Sheriff gonna arrest now all the conservatives ?
Report Post »Bring it on .
cheezwhiz
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:22pmWhat bothers me even more is that this Sheriff seems to have absolutely no intention or the capability to conduct a fair invstigation of the carnage .
Report Post »Not only that, he seems to be shamelessly echoing the thoughts and instructions of his political bosses in the DailyKos and WH .
His mind is made up. He knows who to blame. He is just looking for scapegoats. He is covering up.
At this stage, it seems that NO ONE in the left wing is even interested in the truth. They ar thriving on propaganda and will keep exploiting the tragedy till they can come up with something else to beat up the conservatives with
CatB
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:47pmCheez … I agree and he should be relieved of duty on this issue .. hopefully the feds will get to the bottom of this .. because I don’t think you could count on the local law enforcement if this is the attitude.
Report Post »staythecourse
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:58pmThis sheriff is irresponsible in his statements and he is obviously not interested in investigating this case to the fullest extend of an investigation. i find it interesting that he states that “this is one of the most heroic” events that “I have ever seen”. HE DID NOT SEE the heroic act. It may be a slight point, but a sheriff should know that words/statements are important. He heard of the act… he did not see it…. He also does not know the motive behind the killing. Even if this man had listened to any one in particular, to blame it on talk radio or news casters is irresponsible. This man should be removed from his office .
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:17pmDoes the spooky dood’s
Report Post »“ Secretary of State ” project
include Sheriff’s too ?
Porkeater
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:18pmResponding to: “is the Sheriff gonna arrest now all the conservatives ? Bring it on .”
Bravely spoken, but methinks you protest too much. As far as i am aware, Robertca, the Sherrif said that “Arizona I think has become … the mecca for prejudice and bigotry.“ Did he connect ”prejudice and bigotry” with conservatism, or did you?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:03pmI would like to hear the sheriff’s take on this …
“it really is time for the people of America to take up pitchforks.”
Report Post »Sen. Claire McCaskill (D,MO) Press conference, venting about the tax rate compromise 12/3/10
cheezwhiz
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:11pmkerry: I could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2483318/posts
Thats John Kerry, reporting for doody
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:24pmThe SOONER the BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Quad-rip-legic
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 12:44amSheriff Rosco Purvis Coltrane put this jackass to shame. Every time the jackass opens his mouth he is making things up as he goes along. Maybe the sheriff showed them how not to provide a little security or at least have a single officer somewhere to do something at a scheduled political event. Haven’t heard him take any responsibility for not providing any security. I think he‘s auditioning to be Obama’s next attorney general.
Report Post »emertz8413
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:12pmWhatever happened to “Let’s not be too quick to judge.” as the President said about the Ft. Hood shooter?
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:18pmor the beer summit & the professor .
Report Post »Muslim in Chief
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:21pmNow you see the Hypocricy inherent in the Democratic party.
Report Post »lcam67
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:24pmor punish our enemies !!! the left does not care…….
Report Post »HairRazor
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:40pmgood point
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:44pmExactly … but the left started going crazy with accusations from the minute this was reported .. and still fail to understand that this is not right / left .. the man is CRAZY. Too bad no one identified him as such .. but that can be traced to the “everyone has rights” and you can’t “label people” mental health mantra .. which fails to protect both those needing help and the public.
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:22pmEveryone has their spin on this situation and frankly I am just sick of hearing it today. We as a country need to stop the hate and come together as a country. This guy was only listening to the voices in his head and I doubt the voices had any political leanings. http://wp.me/pYLB7-v9
Report Post »lylee
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:05pmAnd remember… Someone brings a knife to a fight, you bring a gun. I wonder who would say something like that to incite people to violence? Any ideas? Must have been a right wing radical.
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:52pmI THOUGHT THE SAME THING
Report Post »Thank YOU 8413
GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:21pmWALK,
With all due respect, I would have to disagree. To say that this incident had no Political Intent is to be intelectually naive, if not downright dishonest. He did TARGET a SPECIFIC POLITICAL figure(s) engaged in POLITICAL activities, in a very PUBLIC situation. He didn’t shoot just anybody that happened to be available randomly. All the earmarks of POLITICAL ASSASINATION are present in this. Whether he came from the left against the right or vice versus, he definitely intended to make a statement of POLITICAL DISATISFACTION in the strongest terms there are available.
And, matter not how deranged or mentally unstable he was, he still had the presence of mind and clarity of thought, to plan and execute his mission quite dramatically and successfully. It is also very obvious that he spent little effort and time on planning his escape. Odds are he knew he would be caught, and that didn’t bother him so very much. I would wager that he really wants a platform to speak from about his beliefs etc. and that we will hear quite alot from him. That assuming of course, the FEDs don’t “Arrange” for him to become unexpectedly ABSOLUTELY SILENT.
Don’t bet on that “not” happening, unless you have extra cash to throw away.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:39pmGOTT-EM-MAUSER, and what exactly is your take that this shooter had a letter from Ms. Gifford thanking him for his support way back in 2007? Could it be less political and perhaps more personal (deranged, but personal)?
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:12pmthose who are politizing this should put some ice in their britches and cool it.
This wacko was neither left nor right.
Glenn Beck and Karl Marx are not to blame.
He is insane.
sWampy
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:28pmOutcome based education is to blame, the schools teach kids from birth, there are no wrong or right answers, just the ones you come up with, the most special person in the world is you, only your opinions count, this is what you end up with. We can expect a lot more of this, saying he is just insane is a copout, and inaction is going to have dire consequences.
Report Post »ron the veteran
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:33pmthey tried to blaim the tea party for this crap. the guys a 22 yr old commie socialist type. that fits more into the jew hating george soros groups. the tea party is all older people and we only belive in self defence not violence for political gain. that would be your left wing nut jobs who belive in that crap.
barbaraw62
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:35pmHOw about this Marxist calling for the overthrow and violence in America?
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/01/08/marxist-frances-fox-piven-calls-for-a-violent-uprising-against-the-american-system-1/
Report Post »SnapTie
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:43pmShep just let the Mother of the 9 year old go off on the right.He didn’t say a word while she kept blaming the shooter as a right wing wacko,sad Shep.
luckyme
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:44pmI think this man is exposing himself for who he is….a despicable human being…politicizing this tragedy… the shooter was a far left, far something….but not a conservative is there any doubt about that!
Report Post »Deuteronomy22
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:45pmExactly my thought. It‘s not Piven or Beck or the totally idiotic theory ’outcome based education”. Believe or not there really are people who are schizophrenics.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:45pmI just watched Shepard Smith‘s telephone interview with the woman who was able to get the second magazine from the shooter and was shocked and appalled that her sediments were similar if not exactly like the sheriff’s.
DO THEY NOT REALIZE THAT SUCH COMMENTS ARE JUST MAKING THE DIVISION WORSE!
We are not even two days into this and these people can be SO definitive about this guys motives? Common sense tells us we can’t know much about this guy yet. EVERYONE needs to stop pointing the fingers. The shooter, himself, is the ONLY one to be blamed right now.
FURTHER- should it turn out that this guy was incited by one political party or another does not mean we should curtail free speech, censor speech, or abstain from political discourse. A LOT of people are VERY angry at particular politicians right now, but not all are acting out violently.
BUT- again, making definitive statements (when none should made this early) as to blaming a particular political party only divides us that much more. I have not seen (as of yet) one shred of evidence that conclusively relates this shooter with the left or the right- period.
Report Post »S G Applebee
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:51pmYes, “inflammatory speech”. It‘s too bad King George wasn’t able to outlawed it before the American Relolution. No Thomas Paine, no Samual Adams, no Patrick Henry, no United States!
Report Post »Everyone needs to just shut up about the government and let the politicians do their “work”. After all, they’re doing such a WONDERFUL job–$14,000,000,000,000 and still counting!
booger71
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:51pmPlease send Sheriff Joe to Pima County
Report Post »bulldawg
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:53pmMan I have never seen so much rhetoric in my life, the dust hadn’t even settled and people start throwing the blame game. CNN, it‘s Palin’s fault, MSNBC, it’s Beck, Rush and the Tea Party, enough you moron’s, an American Congress woman has been shot, she is fighting for her life and everyone is more worried about what party he was affiliated to. People grow up we are splitting this country apart to the point that something beyond our imaginations is going to happen and then their is no return to the simple life. http://www.weeklyrepublic.com
Report Post »hkyfan36
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:59pmGreat interview on ABC’s Disgrace the Nation. I would agree there are too many left wing news/propaganda networks spewing deceit.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:00pmI’ve reiterated Hoyner and Clyburns statement since January 4, 2011 When Nancy Pelosi stated “repeal is violence”. She’s consistently provoking violence for the past 2 years.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:03pmhe doesn’t appear to be “far left” either.
Forget not among his listed favorite books you also find Animal Farm (famously and wonderfully anti-communist) and Gullivar’s Travels and Alice in Wonderland (what 22 year old leftist reads kids books?). Plus, when did Mein Kampf become mandatory reading for leftist revolutionaries? 1920Never.
This guy has schizophrenia. just look at his youtube page.
I take great issue with many on the right. I do think many in the ranks are capable of violence and murder. When I first heard of this that was my first inclination–”wacko rightist anti-mexican tea partier” but I was wrong. If I thought this young man was inspired, in any way, by the vitriol on the right, trust me, I’d be the first to join in that chorus and applauding this sheriff. But this sheriff was wrong in what he said. he should apologize and retract it fully.
We should leave politics out of this for now.
Loughner is still alive.
He will talk. I’m sure he wants to.
We’ll know more then.
Report Post »WhatsUp
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:04pmhickoryrat
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 7:42pm
Residents of Pima County should remember this guy and his remarks and opinions the next time he wants to be re-elected.
. . .I’m afraid that the folks in Pima County might just agree with him–did you hear Shep Smith’s interview with the woman who grabbed the 2nd magazine/round out of his hand and then sat on his ankles after 2 men wrestled him to the ground–at the end of the interview, he asked for her final thoughts and she went off on the Republicans/the Right! Looks like the sheriff has at least one vote in his favor!!!
martinspotatorolls
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:11pmSwampy said it all, 100% right on !
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:13pmQuite the contrary he was an extreme leftist. That‘s the fact and it’s indisputable. Any left-wing nut-job blaming it on the right is no better than the Democrat hate group Westboro Baptist. This lunatic certainly didn’t listen to any right wing media. He was most certainly listening to the likes of Olberman & Schultz. They are the ones who truly spew hate because that’s all they have. They do not have a rational position. This unfortunate event has taught is that the left truly has no ethics. It wasn’t the right that blamed this on the left without knowing anything about this creep. The left immediately blamed it on the right and now they look like total morons. We also know Democrat congress members plotted to blame this on the Tea Party. We need to hold these hate mongers accountable.
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:17pm@MrButcher : Sorry but those knew him have already said he was an EXTREME leftist. Nice try though.
Report Post »bruins
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:18pm“You never let a serious crisis go to waste” Let us remember the words of Rahm Emmanuel and see what is happening with this tragedy.
shorthanded12
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:28pmI could never understand how and why law enforcement officers run for county sheriff with either a “D” or “R” in front of there names. Last I checked the laws dont say that they just apply to one political affiliation or the other. That should be put to a stop. See how politics creeps into every aspect of life. Yet lawmakers 1st words out of there mouth after every tragic event “Oh we need more rules and regulations” It dicusses me that only 50 some congressional members volunteered to read a portion of the Constitution, all 435 members should have been lined up to read it. Im just trying to point out that theres a real dis-connect inside that beltway. This Pima sheriff should consider a different employment, he demostrated that his politics are over running his job position.
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:37pmListening to this Gentleman leads me to one conclusion! He has all the talking points of a left wing nut that belives in free speech as long as it’s his way (they never seem to like people speaking the facts), and he will do everything in his power to lean everything to his molding of the truth. He is already there.
Report Post »I was waiting to hear Mega say – Are you out of your mind!!!
d55may
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:41pmAren‘t the schools down there teaching separation and that some of the western state were stolen from the Mexican’s. I think this sheriff has a bias and I wonder how much money he makes overlooking the illegal’s. He just stirred the fire he is saying needs to be put out.
Report Post »101
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:45pmIf Sheriff Dupnik had done his job and had the police protection for AZ Rep. Gabrielle Gifford which is his job, this wouldn’t have happened, Dupnik even stated “he knew the killer was a danger to Gifford” yet he blames everybody else for his incompetence …this would have never happened under Sherriff Joe Arpaio’s watch, Sherriff Arpaio is always on top of what’s going on in his community and has the police presence to stop and/or deter heinous criminal acts at events!
Report Post »treshall
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 8:57pmWell, well, Mr. Butcher, well said.
Report Post »James
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:07pmExactly. And all of the politics is coming from the left. PDS does something to the brain that makes it incapable of reason.
http://crazyconservative.wordpress.com/
Report Post »wildjoker5
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:10pm“We need people to stop sending out vitriol information that is not true or unfounded.” Says the guy with no proof this shooter was listening to any radio or vitriol news broadcasters. The only time that I hear anything from the right that has any “anger” behind it is when I heard them playing clips and sound bites of the left wing news or political base.
Report Post »home_of_the_brave
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:20pmHe doesn’t want to answer any questions regarding the actions of his department regarding previous offenses of this individual but would rather talk about the so called vitriol of the right. Nice job sheriff, way to do your job.
Report Post »mcfinch
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:21pmDefinitely insane.
http://politicalbowl.com – Political Video Website
Report Post »Spark
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:44pmTo Swampy … BS
Report Post »dwh320
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:49pmThe Progressive Socialist even think their actions incite hate and endanger others…
Remember this Flash from the Past : Clip from Bush Assassination Film
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojWOWyHWj6M
They made movies like this when never in the history of our country has ANY President had such a propaganda and hate filed movie been produced while they were in office.
WhatTheHuh
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:55pmStill waiting for the condemnation of the vitriol from the left. Liberals always like to point to the right, but they never give any examples beyond saying, “It’s Beck! It‘s O’Reilly! It’s Palin! (though, once again, they can’t cite anything these people have ever said to incite anything)” Then when you try to point out what comes from the left, the response is always a bland, “we have to stop both sides from doing it.”
And what exactly do these people want? To curtail free speech because some nut job thinks somebody told him to do this horrendous act? Who exactly is going to determine what speech is over the top?
Report Post »exdem
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:12pmThe sherrif of Pima just accused Sarah palin and the right for the shooting on Geraldo’s show. SHAMEFUL!! Why didn’t he mention the targets on her by the lefty org Daily Kos.
Report Post »CYCLONE
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:19pmwhen they said she was confronting Sheriff Dupchit… I thought , hey, maybe she shot him through the skull… ppfffttt… that sucks…yes… this man was plain insane !!!!
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… AND THE CHILDREN … ARE INSANE… THIS IS THE END… THE END MY FRIEND !!!!
Sparky101
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:20pmWait a minute, isn’t this the same Steny (what parents would name a child “Steny”?) who wrote a letter to the Editor of the Washington Post, calling all people who were involved in any way with the Tea Party movement, “unAmerican”? Apparently just another hypocrite, except I think he is simply using this event to stifle the freedom of speach of those who hold opinions that differ from his. For instance, I think people involved with the Tea Party Movement are true patriots who love this country and love our Constitution. I think Steny does not trust Americans and does not trust the Constitution to guide America in today’s day and age. And he‘d make sure I can’t say that anymore. I‘ve looked around at the blogs and can’t believe the continued hate being spewed over on CNN by its “believers.” Anytime CNN runs an article mentioning Sarah Palin, the Haters come out in droves. Today, they manage to blame Sarah Palin for not only these murders and injuries, but for all else that ails our country. They haven’t toned down their insults, name-calling and general hatred one iota. It’s interesting to compare their vitriol with valid and sensitive comments posted here by conservatives. Very telling. Very sad. So Steny (what parents would name a child “Steny”?) take your hypocrisy and stuff it.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:24pmAnd remember Deutero, Pivin and Ayers call for violent overthrow of our government while Glenn Beck calls for adherence to our Constitution. Yeah, those are so similar as to incite schizophrenics. Bull buddy.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:28pmTHE DANGEROUS Rhetoric in question is from the LEFT and Not from the RIGHT exclusively or even part of the time. FOX has cited many instances of this and so has the Blaze, we know them all to well and the MSM gives them all a free pass under freedom of speech.
Now one of their own his shot down and its considered an attack on them personally. This is terrible and my thoughts and prayers go out to all concerned. But Americans everyday are subjected to being murdered at the hands of paroled killers and rapists, cops are getting killed almost on a monthly basis and rapes, violent robberys daily in this country and the level of concern is not even half of what I am witnessing at this moment regarding this attempted assasination and the killings of others who even now seem to be less than the Congresswoman herself (no fault of hers).
Where is the outrage about innocents being killed in this country weekly and excuses being that the killers were victims themselves like the Budweiser Beer thief who mowed down several workers? Cowards who hide behind their positions that represent the people who they now fear. What a disaster!! Now new laws will be forth coming to provide ALL of US with more socalled protections by limiting our freedoms once again because a one oddball occurance like this that affects THEM alone. Wow what a country! I better be careful what I write, I might get a visit by the FBI for “Sounding outraged and incensed” making me a danger to myself and those around me. Relax! I’m a good guy!
Report Post »*************************
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:30pm“ ‘I think the vitriolic rhetoric that we hear day in and day out from people in the radio business and some people in the TV business and what (we) see on TV and how our youngsters are being raised, that this has not become the nice United States of America that most of us grew up in. And I think it’s time that we do the soul-searching,’ the sheriff [Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik] said.”
Useful idiot? Or hardcore commie?
HEDLEY LAMARR: “Maybe I could turn this thing into my advantage … if I could find a sheriff who so offends the citizens of Rock Ridge that his very appearance would drive them out of town.”
Report Post »HEDLEY LAMARR [looking into space, in the direction of the audience]: “But where would I find such a man?”
HEDLEY LAMARR [looking at the audience]: “Why am I asking you?
-Blazing Saddles
AlaskaRick
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:42pmSheriff Dupnik, what a pitiful man, just pitiful. To lay this at the feet of some unknown people on radio and TV is sickening at best. Ask this blow hard who he is talking about. I am disgusted by this guy and his warped views.
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:45pm‘I think the vitriolic rhetoric that we hear day in and day out from people in the radio business and some people in the TV business and what (we) see on TV and how our youngsters are being raised, that this has not become the nice United States of America that most of us grew up in. And I think it’s time that we do the soul-searching,’ the sheriff [Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik] said.”
Actually, I agree. I think that it’s time we all stopped and thought about what Frances Fox Piven and Van Jones have to say about our country. It’s time to stop and think clearly about what Al Sharpton and Jeremiah Wright have said on the airwaves. It‘s time to think about Olberman’s and Maddow’s viewpoints. Oh, yes, and let’s not forget the Westboro Baptist Church members, who will be attending the funerals of the victims.
It’s incredibly sad that these people have such a “siege mentality” and fixed world view that they can’t even conceive of individual responsibility without somehow connecting it to the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy that exists in their minds. And the more that these talking heads bleat about this person or that person influencing the unstable, the more one wonders about the stability of the talking heads. Sad, really.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:49pmI guess the people will have to decide whether the good Sheriff is on the level than as HE puts it. Ummmm? He is injecting a notion that one party is being blocked in its progress of trying to make this a better country, him being a Democrat, I have to guess he means the Republicans. SO….all of these problems we are having since he grew up are because of hateful Republicans blocking progress. Got it! So he stirs the pot with false assumptions for the people to chew on and ponder who are these haters. Talk about demonizing your enemies. I will contend this very man and his high intellectual thinking on how this country got into such bad such is actually a very big part of the problems this country finds itself. He is an apologist for criminals because he pulls the card that sez they were incited to violence and therefore not in their own right minds so not fully responsible for their actions. Got it. This gets worse every time I flip open the screen.
Kudos to Megan for exposing his thinking and to allow him to double down on his position. I wish she had asked him for examples since he was so brave to stand by his assertions. Who is inciting, what were the words they used, when, where and what other crimes have been tied to their recklessness on the airwaves? Where is the proof? FOX better start really fighting back in the coming days before the feds come in and shut em down. I mean it. Don‘t think it can’t happen? Letter bombs going on in the mail to gov officials, a country at War, econ on verge of collapse and now this. Clamp down is coming and soon. I’ll bet this Sheriff would relish this thought.
Report Post »zeiss
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:50pmHow disgusting is it that the libs are spinning this tragic event into a gun control debate, blaming free speech, and making a connection between this psycho and conservatives? This is politics at its lowest and absolutely delusional to think there is any connection, much less spin it for your own political gain!! I do not know which sickens me more: the shooter or those who spin and twist and distort the facts so they can advance an agenda!
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:52pmMr Butcher, you say: ” take great issue with many on the right. I do think many in the ranks are capable of violence and murder.” Thank you for exposing that definite bias. I believe that unsubstantiated feeling is shared throughout the left. I think it flavors the discussions going on over on the blogs at CNN. It surely flavors the thinking of Steny (what parent would name a child “Steny”?) Hoyer and Pelosi. And I think this artificial “truth” helps fuel the hatred from the left. Again, I know no one on the right advocating violent overthrow of our government. I can’t say the same for the left.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:58pmThis guy was only taking a position Sharon Angle promoted: he was exercising his “second amendment remedy” to someone who voted for Universal Health Care. He was acting within the Constitutional rights guaranteed too all of us. The Founders wanted every American to have guns, so that if a legislator voted to prevent insurance companies from dropping insurance to the sick, they could be killed with a gun. As the Tea Party says, if we lose at the ballot box, we’ll win with the bullet box. Thank God for second Amendment rights!
click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:59pmHey Steny… Your side “is” less than moral, by a lot!
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:08pmBOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?, lets do keep this in context. Early Saturday this nut-job kills and injures a lot of people in AZ. Within hours, pundits and many others in media, started pointing fingers at Tea-Party people, or well known figures on the right. It was at that point that us on the right had no choice but to defend ourselves.
I know its a childish point, but we did NOT start this! And the majority of us on the right will never again just brush-off attacks from the left. We have learned some tough lessons recently, and we will not go back to our old ways of automatically forgiving peoples actions. Now we hold them accountable and we don’t care who they are or what side of the ideological spectrum they pretend to support.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:11pmIt would appear that our buddy jzs (Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:58pm) has logged out at HuffPo to come here and spread his brand of “humor.” Never has much to say, just insults.
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:20pmMrButcher, I almost always disagree with you, this time is no exception. You are wrong in so many ways because you expect us on the right will simply “take it” from the left like we have in the past…
NO MORE!
WE DID NOT START THIS, BUT WE ARE DAMN SURE GOING TO DEFEND OURSELVES FROM NOW ON!
tradexpertbuysell
Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:27pmKind of strange to listen to a sherif insisting on giving opining rather than insisting on giving facts. Even for liberal law inforcement officials you don’t see that very often. I remember the Kennedy assassination and I don’t recall anying interviewed officer behaving like this dude.
And who is fermenting the violence Glenn, Rush, or Piven?
Generalities are the pablum of the liberal media? True/False
The truth is in the specifics of conservative talk radio (usually based on sound bites and common sense…not second hand information)?
True/False
So is it the sound bites that are being reported stiring folks up or the reporter?
Can the sherif make that distinction?
How come he knows so much about talk radio (NOT!) but on Kelly’s further probing about the heroic woman interdicting with the gunman, the sherif was not in command of the details? Isn’t that his job as an investigator to have that all down cold?
It seems that with every question Megyn had for specifics the sherif looked like a deer in the headlights and for the most part sounded evasive. Not very impressive!
Sounds more like a defensive politician to me and not a professional law inforcement representative.
Who wants to bet that the woman was a conservative? Or that the other person being threatened earlier by the madman was also a conservative? I‘ll bet you down the road we’ll know that is the real story and that this dufus is intentionally trying to put a liberal spin on the situation.
If so, shame on him.
Report Post »Jayk Signal
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 12:05amSo this Sheriff who wears a gun for a living is blanketing the national airwaves stirring up hatred against conservatives for speaking out about the out-of-control spending habits of the President and Congress.
If the Sheriff’s dream-law against ‘vitriol’ is ever passed, he’ll be the first one convicted.
Report Post »Christs_Patriot
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 12:14amThis response from the left is as predicable at the next tick of the clock. IF ANY representatives had ANY BACKBONE they would be saying something like this “We need to encourage more law abiding citizens to arm themselves to defend all against madmen like this!” Think about it, if law abiding Americans were allowed to exercise their rights to keep and bear arms even on airliners (with proper low velocity ammo of course) wouldn’t that solve the “problem” we are sacrificing our rights to overcome? IF we applied and embraced our rights rather than surrendering them we would all be better off over night. OH SORRY…I was thinking like a free individual there for a minute…
Report Post »HippoNips
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 2:12amSomeone tell the Sheriff and the FBI that the American Renaissance is a period in history within the Progressive Era, not just a name of that group.
Report Post »http://xroads.virginia.edu/~ma02/rodriguez/hs~american%20renaissance%20final%20page.html
Ray2447
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 4:32amThis event certainly brought the left wing bullies out of the wood work. For the past couple of days, those bullies have been committing the vitriolic verbal abuse they’re accusing others of committing.
Report Post »G.W. Dobbs
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 5:12amThe Liberals fear losing control as people become EDUCATED and KNOWLEDGABLE about how the government runs over us; used to, we let them make decisions without question as we trusted the Elected. Having come to ENDLESS WARS, LOSS OF FREEDOMS and ECONOMIC DISTRESS
Report Post »with incresed joblessness, increased homelessness and decreased security, Americans are eager to larn WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? The radio and Television programs of Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and USED TO BE Bill O’Reilly (he changed to taking up time with USELESS GAMES and hoisting his own petard; after all, he tells us he is above us, he attended Harvard; he has lost his vision, imo) are pointing out with direct quotes and tapes what the Elected are doing. AND NOW WE SEE. Well, since they are repeatedly CAUGHT, they must STOP the news getting out by quashing the “tellers”. They do this by calling the truth “vitrolic”. There is a push on to curtai opposition giving us TRUTH. We are supposed to accept their LIES as we quitely did for too many years. NO LONGER.
River0
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 6:29amThis happened because of the invasion of illegals. Arizona’s – and the feds’ – lack of diligence regarding the border allowed this psychotic creep to walk around loose because so many resources were going to illegals. A decade or two ago, Loughner would have been hospitalized for his own protection.
Report Post »BuckOfama
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 6:37amBe prepared, the commies are going to use this to silence the Right. “Never let a tragedy go to waste”
Report Post »easyed598
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 6:56amNeighbor describes him as a lefty ,liberal and a pothead.Kind of rules him out as a tea partyier.
Report Post »USA_Exceptionalism
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 7:02amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHsYoNR4NQk
CNN: Roseanne Barr and Ted Nugent
at 0:47 Rosanne says “…where’s my gun, where’s my rifle” ?
Here’s your “vitriol” coming from the left (not right). Notice Ted didn’t even come back with anything?
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 7:13amDid the ‘right’ cause the riots of the 60′s or the LA riots after Rodney King got his a$$ kicked. Could it possibly be that Jeremiah Wright caused this man to do what he did with all the vitriolic anger he espouses against ‘rich white men’, Jews, and the US of KKK”, or however it was he phrased that?
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:01amI want people like Megan Kelly to take her questions a step further and demand that people like Sheriff Dupnik say the names of the people they are accusing of “inciting violence” so they have a stand when they finally take them to court and sue them character assignation
make them say the names of the people to the names of the networks they are recklessly talking about
Sheriff Dupnik has an ethical if nothing else an obligation as a Law Enforcement Officer to speak to the facts!
Report Post »BeckIsNuts
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:22ammrbutcher is correct in this instance. The killer is insane and it is not Sarah Palin’s fault for using register marks (not gun sights) on her campaign poster. However, as I have been writing on The Blaze for the past few weeks, Beck’s rhetoric, and the hot-tempered knee-jerk reaction to my fair criticism of it from many Blaze bloggers, is paranoid and irresponsible. It hurst the conservative cause, as I’ve said time and again here. Now everyone can see why. The media is spinning this event into an attack on conservatives like Palin and the Tea Party movement, exactly as I feared. I‘ve been warning my contacts in the political arena about this and now it’s here. The hostile reaction that you Beckites sent my way for merely raising a question regarding whether or not the killer was influenced by Beck’s fear mongering, end of days, conspiracy-laced rhetoric is a perfect example of how wound up, locked and loaded much of Beck’s audience is. Maybe it’s time now finally for Glenneth to dial it back on his search for a commie behind every potted plant in the White House and his tales of social collapse, mayhem and the imminent arrival of God here in the US.
lillymckim
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:41am“I think the vitriolic rhetoric that we hear day in and day out from people in the radio business and some people in the TV business and what (we) see on TV and how our youngsters are being raised, that this has not become the nice United States of America that most of us grew up in. And I think its time that we do the soul-searching,” the sheriff said.
Well, Sheriff lets start in Hollywood with the “insightful” (?) or inciting violent filled movies that are put out for our children to watch do you want to start there? Cable TV maybe?
the SEIU will have lawyers on that in a NEW YORK minute
Well, then why not start with the lyrics in RAP MUSIC then ?
Should they also be arrested for inciting violence thru their lyrics?
The SEIU lawyers will be all over that one as well
Or maybe we should start in the churches with the racists hateful rants of Rev Wright and Louis Farrakhan?
How about restricting Jay Z from the White House simply because of the lyrics he writes
are they insightful or are they inciting … where do we START?
Should we ban RAP music for inciting violence because of the extremely violent lyrics?
Sheriff Dupnik where do we start with “your” slippery slope of “justice”?
Report Post »ppeltonen
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:50amProgressives never let a crisis go to waste. It is shameful to use something like this to advance your political agenda and that’s exactly what some on the left are doing.
Report Post »Diamondback
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:31amThere are reports the gunman’s favorite books were : Mein Kompf and The Communist Manisfesto!
That leads me to believe that he was leaning pretty heavy to the left.
Maybe they should call in Ed Schultz, Francis Fax Piven and Van Jones for some heart to heart counseling,
I suspected that the Sheriff was a demoncrap the minute I heard him make this wild, unsubstaniated claim during the News Conference with the FBI Director!
He’s just pushing their agenda!
Report Post »itasca
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:48amThere is no doubt the shooter was disturbed. Nevertheless the written material that he read influenced his behavior. What this nation needs to consider now is: how do we humanly institutionalize dangerous individuals who have the potential to harm members of our society? If an effective system had been in place prior to this incident his mental problems would have been identified and treated years ago.
Report Post »Reagan/DeMint.disciple
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:53amFunny, the sheriff sees the republicans blocking everything but I see it as the democrats shoving 2000 pages bills down our throats … IDK what anyone is supposed to do, BUT to block bills that the American people don’t want or need.. Only in a liberals mind…
Report Post »mill
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:59amThe ONLY person at fault here is the shooter.
People are coming forward saying the shooter scared them etc…why didn’t anyone say anything then?’ Why a build up of 3 years? We can’t run down every scary person, but Jared really stood out.
Beck, Rush, Palin will all be blamed because Jared had a gun and a warped mind. Anytime something goes wrong the very very vocal left goes after the right.
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 10:47amIt appears this sheriff has been watching and listening to MSM and NPR. Specifically that bunch of nuts at MSNBC. Within minutes of the incident MSNBC was blaming it on every one but the progressives who have been scraming for violence with their inflamatory statements and accusations against conservatives. Back lash from their Nov loses. Even Piven has gone public wanting violence.
Report Post »hud
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:03amYo HO HO Stupchick needs to go. Is this hate speech?
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:09amI do not believe that you can tie this kind of act to any particular pundit or politicians, no matter how vitriolic their rhetoric might be. It is impossible to do so statistically. That being said, there are hundreds of millions of dollars being spent on advertising on radio, televions and in even in placement ads in movies and video games. The people who deploy this money are not stupid. They are highly rational and careful individuals who know that they can choreograph images that help sell their products. So to argue that the vitriol has no impact on inciting people to violence is naive, and for Kelly to speak of “speculation” is also incorrect. The costs of such vitriolic rhetoric, whether on the left of the right, should be assumed to contribute, albeit in a small and unquantifiable way, and that alone–given the obvious precious cost–should be enough to lead people to cool it. Never mind that such rhetoric also impedes the ability of two parties to sit down and work together productively, never mind that such rhetoric causes people to make ad hominem arguments rather than focusing on the fact and issues, and never mind that it has brought out the worst of people in their daily interractions with others. This event should give everyone pause. Just because you cannot quantify exactly what the causal link is, doesn‘t mean that there isn’t one. Just as the racist rhetoric of the South in the 50s could make it easy to dehumanize and lynch or murder black men, so can the ideological rhetoric of today make it easier for someone to assassinate a liberal, Jewish Congresswoman in a red state. Either you are a tiny bit of the problem, or you are a tiny bit of the solution. And unless being conservative or Republican now inherently stands for violent rhetoric–which I do not believe it does–Megyn Kelly should not view the sheriff’s comments as being political at all. He likely would be making the same case if AZ were a blue state and the victim on the assassination attempt were a member of the GOP. If we are so preprogrammed to characterize even murder and death as inherently political, then we have lost our collective and individual minds.
Of course, it could be that the rational, calculating minds that are so good at controlling image, are simply trying to protect theirs. And Megyn Kelly, well paid as she likely is, is also protecting her own. That is merely my wild speculation, but there have been no introspective comments examining the role of vitriolic rhetoric anywhere amongst the more fiery Fox pundits, and therefore that speculation will continue to be fueled.
Report Post »hud
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:13amThey blamed Dallas and conservatives for JFK, and never corrected the error. If you don’t learn from history it will repeat itself.
Report Post »forestnomad
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:16amBut for all the scolding from the Megyn Kellys about pointing fingers and finding blame in the wake of a tragedy, I’d like to see how conservatives will hold true to that the next time some kid shoots up his high school or a Muslim bombs a public gathering. Maybe they’ll just recognize the terrorist as mentally unstable and beyond mere influence. Or maybe they’ll go back to the same old routine of blaming non-christian religion, democrats, video games, or rock and roll.
Report Post »bsone
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:17amI‘m surprised the whacks haven’t blamed GW yet (or have I missed it?)
Report Post »TerryJ70
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:18amOnce again, Megyn seems to be the only reporter to get it right. I am a long time FoxNews fan and have been appalled how the network has allowed so much crap to be “shared” on this shooting. All of our news stations need to be ashamed of themselves for this kind of reporting.
One can only hope that our new House of Representatives will be able to start asking the right questions to get out in public some major concerns; the people our president has surrounded himself with, the circumvention of our congress to take more unconstitutional control of our country, how congress can accept the process of not allowing debate and not even time to read a bill before voting on it, voter fraud, how much has been paid to unions and why, why are gas prices so high, just to name a few.
Report Post »OutOfTheAether
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:41am@HICKORYRAT
A friend of mine has a son working Border Patrol. Said the same thing about Pima County – they hate working there. Hope Pima county people have good memories come election time
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:44amPlease get this Sheriff’s name correct…it’s “DOPE nik”…
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:50amMegyn Kelly calls out the sheriff for speculation, but Kelly herself is speculating about the mental state of the killer Jared Loughner. It is a politically expedient response in this context for a conservative like Kelly to assume that this is the random act of violence from a mad man, but that is also speculation. We will see how much truth is eventually revealed, but do not believe only one side is spinning this. Both sides are making political calculations all of the time.
But as long as a rational marketplace, worth billions of dollars, spends money on advertisements, it will be impossible to argue that what the pundits on Fox or on MSNBC say has no impact on people in society, including Loughner.
Report Post »abc
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:57amThis article is very interesting because it presents scientific evidence showing a clear link between violent political speech and a rise in the predisposition to commit political violence:
http://scienceblogs.com/tfk/2011/01/asking_why_without_the_blame_g.php
I presents results that should worry both people on the left and the right.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 1:53pmmaybe the minority whip should start by condemning the speech of the democratic socialist,the american communist, and the new black panthers before attacking his oppisitions speech. Clean his own damn house before comdemning others.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 2:00pmI am afraid that the result of this crisis will be to restrict the liberties of all those who are law abiding and were not at this small rally in Tucson. More gun regulation, More free speech and advertising regulation and more security for those elitist in Washington to insulate them from the people and their terrible policy making schemes. I am sure we will have the Giffords (Brady) law being written as we speak at The Center of American Progress being announced by weeks end. Stock up on large clips and brass because they will be a great investment. Buy low and sell on the high in a couple years.
Report Post »dominke
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 2:13pmThe left will always make statements that are outright lies to incite radical movement. We better make up our minds if we want to let the left getaway with this type of action. The dems like to attack and the conservatives always plays defense. I believe that you fight fire with fire. Are the republicans and tea party afraid of these guys or are they part of problem.
Report Post »urrybr
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 2:34pmThe sherrif has some issues too. His rationale is like blaming the holocaust on Hitler’s mom, or Kaiser Wilhelm. ???????????????????????????????????
Report Post »Nostraquedeo
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 4:50pmThe Sheriff and the media are Opportunist’s.
Report Post »LadybugsTX
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 10:19pmMRButcher. Actually this guy was far-left. I think maybe you know this at heart and that‘s why you’ve decided to declare him neither far-left or right, to rid your group of the mess you have caused.
And I wonder how it is your “first inclination” was to blame a far-right tea partier? Could you please explain why it is that you think this way? Has there ever been any violence produced by this group? No.
Now my “first inclination” that it was a nutjob from the far-left who believe that anything from slander to personal destruction to violence is justified was more spot on. And why do I think that way? The Austin, Texas pilot that flew into the IRS building, a leftist, the school board shooter who opened fire during a school board meeting, a leftist, G20 millions in damage, leftist, bombing Federal buildings, leftists, beatings at town hall meetings, leftists, What’s even sadder, leftist groups like SDS, unions, etc. actually encourage violence. Sorry, but this blood is in the hands of the left.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on January 11, 2011 at 8:59amABC, the “science” you present, is pretty lame. A presenter who does not provide his credentials, and simply provides his opinion of research. When you do manage to get the paper he was summarizing, you find the usual guessing and it is filled with words like “may,“ ”might,“ ”could,“ ”seems to,” and etc. And nowhere is the research data presented for others to be able to reproduce such “results” or determine if the research was done following valid scientific methodology. In essence, ABC, keep reading, but keep your skepticism alarms up. Don’t present such stuff as proven research, when even the authors will generally state their constraints and hold that “more research is necessary” and they caution people not to draw conclusions from such inconclusive, one-time research.
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