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Megyn Kelly Panel Clashes Over Whether Abortion Exceptions Are Part of Official GOP Platform

Fox News Megyn Kelly Panel Clashes Over Whether Abortion Exceptions Are Part of Official GOP Platform

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During Fox New’s “America Live” on Tuesday, Megyn Kelly hosted a lively panel to debate whether GOP pressure would force Missouri Senatorial candidate Todd Akin to withdraw from the race.

While Akin has vowed to stay in the Senatorial race, Republican strategist Ed Rollins argued that he stands no chance to win and his support within the GOP will continue to fall in the wake of his controversial “legitimate rape” remarks. He added that Akin could also hurt Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s chances of winning Missouri in the 2012 election.

But the topic eventually raised the question: Are abortion exceptions, or a lack thereof, officially part of the Republican party platform?

Fox News contributor Julie Roginsky said that the Republican party has now “adopted a platform that says there is no exception for abortion, even in cases of rape and incest — that is very far out of the mainstream.” She also said it is fair to link Akin’s comments to the Romney/Ryan ticket because Paul Ryan previously co-sponsored legislation with Akin that created different categories of rape by using the phrase “forcible rape.”

Thus started the debate over whether the Republican party’s official platform included an exception on its abortion stance when it came to instances of rape, incest, or pregnancies that threatened the life of the mother.

“At the end of the day, our party has always had exception for rape, incest and life of the mother. And I, for one, am appalled that they’re trying to change that at this point in time,” Rollins said.

“Let me just jump in on that,” Kelly chimed in, “because I want to clarify. So, you’re right, it hasn’t been the official platform of the Republican party; it’s been suggested by a committee and then has to be approved. Same thing with gay marriage on the Democratic side.”

Kelly went on: “But, what I was told was that this has been part of the Republican platform for like twenty years. That they are against abortion, and that John McCain, last time around, wanted to be more clear about the fact that the platform said ‘except in cases of rape or incest.’”

Rollins then clarified that “it started with Reagan” who he says upheld the previously mentioned exceptions and did not attempt to differentiate between different “sorts” of rape.

Trying to act as a voice of reason, Kelly later explained that just as Obama supports same-sex marriage personally but not officially, Romney may have a personal belief when it comes to abortion that may not be his official campaign position. Either way, Romney‘s opponents will almost certainly try to tie him to Akin’s comments, even though he has come out and strongly condemned his remarks.

Watch the entire Fox News segment via Mediaite here:

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  • chuckm310
    Posted on August 22, 2012 at 4:48am

    Personally, I don’t believe in abortion. I think it is against God’s word. But, I‘ll never have to make that decision and I don’t think “MEN” should make those kinds of decisions for “WOMEN”. It must be her choice and let her choice be between God and herself.

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    • Wildblue3
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 9:45am

      Chuck, I agree with you mostly. It should be the Woman’s decision. HOWEVER, I really think that the Man should at least be made aware. I know some women who never tell the daddy what she was planning on doing and never gave him a chance to either man up or propose a soloution. I know one guy who was willing to pay for everything and then would take the kid afterwards. I know I would feel very betrayed if I did get a girl pregnant and the woman aborted him/her without even talking to me.

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    • BBlanski
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 11:07am

      Chuck I think the baby should get a choice, and until the baby is old enough to make that choice the decision should be put on hold.

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 11:52am

      @BBlanski
      Uh Oh, better tell god that.
      [It is estimated that up to half of all fertilized eggs die and are lost (aborted) ~ Among those women who know they are pregnant, the miscarriage rate is about 15-20%.]
      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002458/
      All those unbaptized babies, seeing as they’re “life” where do they go… hmm. That makes god, the biggest abortionist of all.

      If a relative was in hospital and had no brain waves they would clinically dead, even though their body was being kept alive through life support, we could unplug them from said life support.
      But if an embryo has no brainwaves for the first 6 weeks (because it has no brain!) a woman can’t unplug it from her body because “theocrates” believe it is a human being with full fledged rights. Makes perfect sense!
      It takes 6 months before interlinking of the brain’s neurons begin. Until then stop trying to shove your antiquated bronze age mythology down peoples throats. It’s a loosing battle. You cause more abortions through poor economies because you keep getting democrats and progressives elected because you fundamentalist cannot stay away from a women’s reproductive choice! If you fundamentalist would shut up about abortion for ONE STINKING ELECTION!!! We might get this economy rolling again…

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    • BBlanski
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 1:09pm

      @Pontiac

      So the one issue that is dragging down the economy is abortion? I don’t really think I need to say much more but just to clarify.

      More people are pro-life (and growing) than pro-choice. With most pregnancies the women has a choice to have a baby or not once she is pregnant from consensual sex I think her decision was already made. Use birth control I don’t care, but once the child is conceived I believe it should be given a sporting chance to live. I don’t care about brain waves I care about kids, and I don’t care how you want to justify your morals.

      Also I am closer to an atheist than a Christian. I just have this horrible moral compass that says killing children of any age is wrong.

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 2:15pm

      [one issue that is dragging down the economy is abortion]
      You misrepresent my premise. The poor economy drives abortion rates high. “pro-life” drives away votes for fiscal conservatives which leads to a poor economy. Which drives abortion rates up because people cannot afford to raise a child.

      [More people are pro-life than pro-choice.]
      I was pro-life once, then it dawned on me, I don’t want people that would have an abortion reproducing.

      [to have a baby or not once she is pregnant from consensual sex I think her decision was already made.]
      No it was not. People do not have sex for the sole reason of reproduction. And not all sex is consensual but don’t let that stop a fundamentalist from preventing rape victims from having an abortion!

      [Use birth control I don’t care]
      Glad to know all people will willingly do this 100% of the time and that birth control is 100% effective. Thank you almighty overlord of a perfect world!

      [child is conceived I believe it should be given a sporting chance to live]
      A zygote and an embryo is not a “child”. And where is that sporting chance when a family of 4 is BROKE and cannot afford a 3rd child?

      [and I don’t care how you want to justify your morals.]
      Their immoral actions in no way impact me. Redistributing your reproductive morals through government force is like redistributing another persons wealth through government force. It in no way makes anyone a saint.

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    • BBlanski
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 4:34pm

      [You misrepresent my premise.] Your premise is wrong more people are pro-life driving votes to conservatives then away from them.

      [People do not have sex for the sole reason of reproduction. And not all sex is consensual but don’t let that stop a fundamentalist from preventing rape victims from having an abortion!] When people have sex they could get pregnant that is when the choice is made and rape is not sex.

      [Glad to know all people will willingly do this 100% of the time and that birth control is 100% effective. Thank you almighty overlord of a perfect world!] You are trying to pigeon hole me into some sort of talking points. Do what you want to prevent pregnancy (as long as I am not paying for part of it), but once a child is conceived then it should have a chance to live.

      [A zygote and an embryo is not a “child”. And where is that sporting chance when a family of 4 is BROKE and cannot afford a 3rd child?] Semantics it is life and don‘t have sex if you can’t afford it.

      [Redistributing your reproductive morals through government force...It in no way makes anyone a saint] Killing kids is fine as long as we can “justify” that their brain doesn’t attach and their life might not good by being born to poor parents. News flash you rights end when the impact another persons rights. Your reproductive morals end where another begins.

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 6:43pm

      [more people are pro-life]
      Then those people can live their lives as baby factories. If someone chooses to have an abortion it is not your business or the governments. It is only our business if we’re paying for it.

      [they could get pregnant that is when the choice is made]
      Really? You’re a genius. To bad the ENTIRE human population doesn’t avoid risky behavior like you. So when a condom breaks, they “chose” to have a child. Yup. Sure.

      [and rape is not sex]
      Ahahaha. Consensual or not, it IS sexual intercourse.

      [but once a child is conceived then it should have a chance to live]
      Even if they cannot pay for or afford the child without digging into your pocket or starving to death otherwise? Brilliant. Nothing better than guaranteeing generational ignorance and poverty.

      [Semantics it is life and don‘t have sex if you can’t afford it]
      Oh? You plan on sterilizing those that can’t afford it?
      My pancreas is life as well. Wouldn’t stop me from having it removed. Mr.rape is not sex.

      [Killing kids is fine as long as we can “justify” that their brain doesn’t attach]
      I’m not talking about killing kids. There is a difference between living tissue and sentience. If it hasn’t the capacity to feel then it is NOT sentient.

      [your rights end when the impact another persons rights]
      Clusters of cells do not make a “person” with rights. If it did I could lop off bits of flesh, cycle plasma through them, and register them to vote.

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 6:50pm

      Lastly, if your mentally handicap brother-in-law raped your 11 year old daughter and carrying the zygote to term would kill her I bet you wouldn’t be so opposed to abortion. The decision to have a first trimester abortion should be fully in the hands of the people, not some theocratic dictatorship.

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    • BBlanski
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:21am

      [Lastly, if your mentally handicap brother-in-law raped your 11 year old daughter and carrying the zygote to term would kill her I bet you wouldn’t be so opposed to abortion. The decision to have a first trimester abortion should be fully in the hands of the people, not some theocratic dictatorship.] That is why I have stated consensual sex, and why I said sporting chance. I think that if the pregnancy could kill the mother then the mother should have the choice. If it was due to forced rape or incest the mother should have the choice. The problem is how to make sure it is only due to rape or incest and not just to use abortion as birth control. Non forced rape aka statutory rape I don’t know I go back and forth on that issue. I also believe that if the medical doctor can prove the child will be severely handicap the mother should have the choice. I just don’t think it should be used as birth control.

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    • BBlanski
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:35am

      [more people are pro-life]
      You premise was conservatives are losing elections because of their pro-life stance you were wrong. Moving on.

      [To bad the ENTIRE human population doesn’t avoid risky behavior like you.] You are not a true conservative we believe people should be held accountable for the decisions they make. Like the drunk driver goes to prison for getting in a wreck and killing a family. A robber becomes a murderer when a gun goes off by accident in a robbery and kills somebody.

      [Nothing better than guaranteeing generational ignorance and poverty.] News flash everyone if you are born poor you are ignorant and will be in poverty forever and so will your kids and their kids.

      [Oh? You plan on sterilizing those that can’t afford it?] No

      [There is a difference between living tissue and sentience. If it hasn’t the capacity to feel then it is NOT sentient.] So now it is living but since it can‘t feel we can kill it or since the brain isn’t attached then we can kill it. However you want to justify killing a growing child I will not agree with.

      [Clusters of cells do not make a “person” with rights. If it did I could lop off bits of flesh, cycle plasma through them, and register them to vote.] If your flesh grows, lives for over 18 years, and pays taxes then by all means I say yes.

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 3:24pm

      Breezing through your hooey.
      [You premise was conservatives are losing elections because]
      A lot of people are “against abortion personally” but do not believe in a government ban on it. If you can provide statistics that clearly show this distinction, do so. Otherwise you’re lumping together two types of people.

      [we believe people should be held accountable for the decisions they make.]
      Hold them accountable by sterilizing them on the 3rd abortion OR fining them heavily. Make them personally pay for their abortions and sterilization… Otherwise they will just hold you accountable for supporting their unwanted and unaffordable child. Them choosing to have an abortion at their expense does not impact you or I or any other sentient being, thus it is none of our business. Flat out outlawing abortion will not curb abortions or raise morality one iota.

      [drunk driver goes to prison for getting in a wreck and killing a family]
      Again, you’re comparing sentience to an embryo.

      [brain isn’t attached then we can kill it.]
      If the brain isn’t “FORMED” or “FUNCTIONAL” then yes! The woman can do whatever the hell she pleases unless you think YOU can sustain their embryo for 9 months in your body and support the child 18 years thereafter. Seeing as how you cannot or will not, it is NOT YOUR DECISION.

      [lives for over 18 years, and pays taxes then by all means I say yes.]
      Already 18+ and taxes aren’t a prerequisite to vote.

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 3:27pm

      [I just don’t think it should be used as birth control.]
      Who the hell uses abortion as their first or preferred form of “birth control”?
      Can you name ONE person that does this???

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    • BBlanski
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 3:58pm

      [A lot of people are “against abortion personally” but do not believe in a government ban on it] Stating the obvious, this would make you pro-choice which means you may not have an abortion but you think people should be able to choose, and you are in the minority.

      [Hold them accountable by sterilizing them on the 3rd abortion OR fining them heavily.] Talk about taking a persons rights away.

      [Them choosing to have an abortion at their expense does not impact you or I or any other sentient being] except the kids being killed.

      [Flat out outlawing abortion will not curb abortions or raise morality one iota.] Please provide some facts here, because this really sounds like you made that up.

      [drunk driver goes to prison for getting in a wreck and killing a family]
      Again I am talking about holding people accountable for their actions, and you are not.

      [If the brain isn’t “FORMED” or “FUNCTIONAL” then yes!] I understand your point you are fine with people killing kids. Seeing how you are not the baby getting your head sucked up into a vacuum it is NOT YOUR DECISION.

      [Already 18+ and taxes aren’t a prerequisite to vote.] The growing part not fit your argument, just ignore it, also that little chunk of cells has to live 18 years from the time it is separated and so should your chunk of cells. Also show me one person who has not paid a single penny of taxes in 18 years.

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    • BBlanski
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 4:01pm

      [I just don’t think it should be used as birth control.]
      Who the hell uses abortion as their first or preferred form of “birth control”?
      Can you name ONE person that does this???

      I clearly didn’t say first or preferred form of “birth control” but you don’t really have an argument so change what I am saying.

      I do know one girl who has had 5 abortions she is 36 has never been married and has no kids. She has clearly used it as birth control.

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:39pm

      [Stating the obvious, this would make you pro-choice]
      If a pollster called me today, asked a blanket question such as “do you believe abortion is wrong?“ I would say ”yes”. And I would be grouped into a data base as “pro-life“ for you to use as a ”statistic”. However they did not ask if I was pro-life and you did not provide one source for your stats to verify this wasn’t how they taken the poll. Hence why your statement is and will remain as two groups of people lumped together as one.

      [Talk about taking a persons rights away.]
      I didn’t take nothing away. I gave them a “choice” which they made when they engaged in sex and chose abortion 3 times over giving birth. Sound familiar? “Making” them have a child puts me in the position of providing them welfare for them against “my choice”.

      [except the kids being killed.]
      Except an embryo is not sentient or a “kid”. You seem to be confusing me with someone that supports late term abortion. What part of “embryo” do you not comprehend?

      [Please provide some facts here, because this really sounds like you made that up.]
      Do you believe Saudi Arabia is more moral because it severely outlaws abortion? Do you believe a coat hanger and a youtube tutorial wont replace a doctor?

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:40pm

      [Again I am talking about holding people accountable for their actions]
      No you were talking about a drunk driver killing sentient humans. If he chops his finger off with an axe I really have nothing to charge him with. Note: drinking and driving is illegal, yet it didn’t make him moral.

      [Seeing how you are not the baby getting your head sucked up into a vacuum it is NOT YOUR DECISION.]
      Right, not mine, not yours, not governments. It takes 5 weeks before the brain begins to form. 25 weeks for rapid brain and nervous system development which is when fetus gains greater control over movements. Up until the 5th week it is undoubtedly the woman’s decision.

      [show me one person who has not paid a single penny of taxes in 18 years.]
      I didn’t pay federal taxes in my first 18 years. Didn’t stop me from voting in a federal election either. And as I said, it is not a prerequisite for voting.

      [I do know one girl who has had 5 abortions she is 36 has never been married and has no kids. She has clearly used it as birth control.]
      And you prefer she was unmarried with 5 kids?

      Goodby bblanski, I hope you gain a better understanding of biology and get over your authority complex with women.

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    • BBlanski
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 3:50pm

      [Hence why your statement is and will remain as two groups of people lumped together as one.] So you haven’t a clue about the poll but you disagree with it? Typical liberal don’t let facts get in the way of a good argument. Google pro-life poll and a Gallup poll will tell you everything you need to know, but then you couldn’t play dumb.

      [“Making” them have a child puts me in the position of providing them welfare for them against “my choice”.] Killing a person is a lot different than a person having to decide where there taxes go. I would hate that it would cost your tax dollars to go someplace else instead of murder. Then you want us to end welfare, SS, medicare, and the public school system, because that is not your choice.

      [Except an embryo is not sentient or a “kid”.] So you agree that cells are living but then you contend that it isn’t killing if the child cannot feel. If something is living and you make it not living then you are killing it. If it cannot feel then it simply cannot feel you kill it which you feel fine with.

      [Do you believe Saudi Arabia is more moral because it severely outlaws abortion? Do you believe a coat hanger and a youtube tutorial wont replace a doctor?] So you don’t have any facts to back up your statements, shocking.

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    • BBlanski
      Posted on August 24, 2012 at 3:52pm

      [Again I am talking about holding people accountable for their actions No you were talking about a drunk driver killing sentient humans.] So you want to hold people accountable for drinking and driving which tends to cause wrecks, but you won’t hold people accountable for having sex which tends to cause pregnancy. I fail to understand your hypocrisy.

      [Right, not mine, not yours, not governments. It takes 5 weeks before the brain begins to form. 25 weeks for rapid brain and nervous system development which is when fetus gains greater control over movements. Up until the 5th week it is undoubtedly the woman’s decision.] You mean undoubtedly the babies decision (the one getting their head sucked off).

      [show me one person who has not paid a single penny of taxes in 18 years.]
      [I didn’t pay federal taxes in my first 18 years. And as I said, it is not a prerequisite for voting.] Clearly my statement was paying taxes not federal taxes, and I never said it was a prerequisite for voting. So cut some skin off and keep it alive for 18 years and then it can go into the voting booth and vote if it can.

      [And you prefer she was unmarried with 5 kids?] I prefer 5 kids to be alive, and people be held responsible for their actions.

      [Goodby bblanski, I hope you gain a better understanding of biology and get over your authority complex with women.] Maybe one day you will understand the idea of living and killing, and how do you know I am not a women?

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  • Michael_912
    Posted on August 22, 2012 at 1:46am

    There Should Be No Exceptions To Abortions! – When you give “exceptions” you completely compromise your principles. You also surrender the argument. It’s like letting the nose of the camel under the tent. You are either pro life, or pro homicide, period.

    Killing a baby in the womb is Homicide, no ifs ands or buts. Representative Akin struggled with, and blew this one.

    In the case of rape or incest:
    The wounds from rape last far longer than the incident itself, emotionally and physically. One of the possible results from rape is pregnancy. Killing a baby and adding another victim at the mother’s hands is not the solution. A broken hip from a car accident as a result of a drunken driver may take years to heal. Nine months to carry a child is unfortunately one of the possible results of that assault, and far less painful. Adoption is an option, raising the child is another. Killing that child is nothing less than homicide.

    Threatens the mother’s life?
    Again, the term “abortion” is used to desensitize. You are not aborting a rocket launch or battle maneuver, you are killing a child, it is Homicide. In the case of saving a mother’s life, it is still Homicide, though justifiable. It is just as justifiable as a mother protecting her life from a teenager that is threatening her with a gun or a knife. The mother has the right to preserve her life if she chooses. It is still, none the less, homicide and should be treated as such.

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    • DarkJello
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 2:26am

      I strongly disagree with your stance on “no exceptions” to abortion. I don’t believe the gooberment should force a women to deliver a baby if she was impregnated by a rapist. She should have the freedom to choose one way or the other. The vast majority of abortions are wrong, and yet a few logical exceptions should be allowed.

      Also, this Akin guy should have stepped aside for the good of the country and the GOP.

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    • Spyderco
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 2:50am

      Darkjello-
      Let’s just legalize abortion for rape victims. How do you prove rape? Mostly you just have the word of the pregnant female. Do you think that a 15 year old girl who was impregnated my her boyfriend who she chose to have sex with would not tell a doctor she was raped out of fear of her parents, friends, physical effects of pregnancy? She could make up and describe a man that raped her knowing that only she would ever know the truth. That is the Pandora’s box you open when you say these one or two exceptions are okay.

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    • encinom
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 10:36am

      Spyderco
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 2:50am

      Darkjello-
      Let’s just legalize abortion for rape victims. How do you prove rape? Mostly you just have the word of the pregnant female. Do you think that a 15 year old girl who was impregnated my her boyfriend who she chose to have sex with would not tell a doctor she was raped out of fear of her parents, friends, physical effects of pregnancy? She could make up and describe a man that raped her knowing that only she would ever know the truth. That is the Pandora’s box you open when you say these one or two exceptions are okay.
      ________________________
      So the easiest solution is to do away with the exceptions and just leave the law as it is, its the woman’s choose, her body, her decision. Or do you believe government should force women to remain pregnant no matter what. Kind of sounds like you support dictators.

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    • JULIKINS209
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 12:48pm

      Well said!

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    • Inkmage
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 1:05pm

      @MICHAEL_912

      You’re ridiculous to think such things, and this is the type of mentality that makes Republicans, Conservatives, and Christians look backwards and silly!

      Its easy for self-righteous people who think they understand god; to sit back and spout that ridiculousness, until it is their own daughter in that situation. Suppose you had a 12 year old daughter who was raped. Her little body more than likely wouldn’t be strong enough to go through the process of birth, therefore her life could be in danger. Aside from her not being fully developed, it could also cause complications for the baby as well.

      My sister had to have an abortion when doctors discovered complications that put her life at risk; it hurt her a lot still to this day, but she’s alive, was able to correct the problem and have a child with no problems. The decision was a FAMILY decision with god involved- the way it SHOULD be.

      By sitting back saying “no exceptions”, you’re basically forcing a woman to have to put up with whatever came her way- that can and will hinder her life.

      The Republicans are going to kill themselves with this rubbish, it really makes them look almost as backwards, and I am no Liberal or Democrat- but this stance the party is taking is WRONG- as well as anyone who supports it.

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  • Michael_912
    Posted on August 22, 2012 at 1:36am

    There should be NO EXCEPTIONS to “abortions”. Killing a baby in the womb is HOMOCIDE- NO IF ANDS OR BUTS.

    Representative Akin struggled with, and blew this one.

    In the case of rape or incest:
    The wounds from rape last far longer than the incident itself, emotionally and physically. One of the possible results from rape is pregnancy. Killing a baby and adding another victim at the mother’s hands is not the solution. A broken hip from a car accident as a result of a drunken driver may take years to heal. Nine months to carry a child is unfortunately one of the possible results of that assault, and far less painful. Adoption is an option, raising the child is another. Killing that child is nothing less than homicide.

    Threatens the mother’s life?
    Again, the term “abortion” is used to desensitize. You are not aborting a rocket launch or battle maneuver, you are killing a child, it is HOMICIDE. In the case of saving a mother’s life, it is still HOMICIDE, though justifiable. It is just as justifiable as a mother protecting her life from a teenager that is threatening her with a gun or a knife. The mother has the right to preserve her life if she chooses. It is still, none the less, homicide and should be treated as such.

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  • Michael_912
    Posted on August 22, 2012 at 1:34am

    (Spell Checked)
    There should be NO EXCEPTIONS to “abortions”. Killing a baby in the womb is HOMOCIDE- NO IF ANDS OR BUTS.

    Representative Akin struggled with, and blew this one.

    In the case of rape or incest:
    The wounds from rape last far longer than the incident itself, emotionally and physically. One of the possible results from rape is pregnancy. Killing a baby and adding another victim at the mother’s hands is not the solution. A broken hip from a car accident as a result of a drunken driver may take years to heal. Nine months to carry a child is unfortunately one of the possible results of that assault, and far less painful. Adoption is an option, raising the child is another. Killing that child is nothing less than homicide.

    Threatens the mother’s life?
    Again, the term “abortion” is used to desensitize. You are not aborting a rocket launch or battle maneuver, you are killing a child, it is HOMICIDE. In the case of saving a mother’s life, it is still HOMICIDE, though justifiable. It is just as justifiable as a mother protecting her life from a teenager that is threatening her with a gun or a knife. The mother has the right to preserve her life if she chooses. It is still, none the less, homicide and should be treated as such.

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  • Michael_912
    Posted on August 22, 2012 at 1:27am

    There should be NO EXCEPTIONS to “abortions” Killimg a baby in the womb is HOMOCIDE- NO IF ANDS OR BUTS

    Representative Akin struggled with, and blew this one.

    In the case of rape or incest: The wounds from rape last far longer than the incident itself, emotionally and physically. One of the possible results from rape is pregnancy. Killing a baby and adding another victim at the mother’s hands is not the solution. A broken hip from a car accident as a result of a drinken driver may take years to heal. Nine months to carry a child is unfortunately one of the possible results af that assault, and far less painful. Adoption is an option, raising the child is another. Killing that child is nothing less than homocide.

    Threatens the mother’s life?
    Again, the term “abortion” is used to desensitize. You are not aborting a rocket launch or battle maneuver, you are killing a child, it is HOMOCIDE. In the case of saving a mother’s life, it is still HOMOCIDE, though justifyable. It is just as justifyable as a mother protecting her life from a teenager that is threatening her with a gun or a knife. The mother has the right to preserve her life if she chooses. It is still, none the less, homocide and should be treated as such.

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  • Wango
    Posted on August 22, 2012 at 12:50am

    What does it say about conservatives that they’re unwilling to say – and don’t want anyone to know – what they really believe? You folks are in worse condition than even I imagined, and that is saying something. Nobody respects a hedger, a qualifier, a dissembler. Pick a principle and stick with it. It’s easy once you try it.

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    • termyt
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 9:10am

      Don’t confuse “conservative” with “Republican.” While the two intersect more than the don’t – well at least more than the Democrats do, anyways, they are not the same.

      The only real question is that of life and the right of one to keep it. We believe it is morally wrong to kill a fetus while he or she is in the womb. We believe that fetus has the right to life – that is, it has the right not to be deprived of life unjustly.

      The parentage of the child and the conditions of the child’s conception are not relevant, just as most would agree after the child is born. The fact that the child is means he/she has has a right to not have his/her life unjustly ended.

      In the case of rape, the child has done nothing wrong. We seem to understand that we do not punish children for the crimes of their parents – how is this different if you believe it is amoral to kill the unborn? (If you have no moral objection, then you believe any unborn child can be killed – again that the child was conceived in rape is meaningless.)

      In the case of danger to the mother – that is why I say the right to life actually means the right to not be denied life unjustly. No one’s life is of greater value. If the mother’s life is at serious risk, she has the right to defend it. While the child is still innocent of wrong doing, he/she is still causing a life-threatening situation. In that case, the mother has every right to protect her own life or choose to risk it.

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  • conservatype
    Posted on August 22, 2012 at 12:45am

    America: this is your last chance to save liberty for yourselves and future generations. And you are going to vote for a communist because he will give you license to murder babies in the womb? Maybe this nation deserves to perish: we may find out in a few months……..

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  • Bullhead
    Posted on August 22, 2012 at 12:41am

    http://www.rebeccakiessling.com/index.html Read her story and the tell me she should of been aborted!! I only believe in saving the life of the mother.

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    • Ghandi was a Republican
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 1:19am

      She is special. No doubt about that! Her Mother is incredible. But no woman should be forced to go through what could amount to mental torture to carry her rapists baby. That’s just the way it is.. No man should have to watch his wife carry a rapists baby to term. The problem here is that Planned parenthood will gladly call anything a rape, making a mockery of the act, in the name of a taxpayer funded buck..

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    • mtcountrygrl
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 12:21pm

      Then take the morning after pill if you are raped

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  • oldduffer
    Posted on August 22, 2012 at 12:23am

    Race, Sexuality and Abortion seem to be the only thing that’s important to the Democrat party. Really a bunch of weird people. Who cares if Ryan had an ex girlfriend that was black for instance. Only the Democrat party that used to use the KKK to enforce interracial laws, usually by tar and feathers or hanging off the back of a Jackass or donkey or whips and chains.
    Abortion has made the Democrat party the true “BABY KILLERS” of our current history. Must have trained under the Communist Chinese who’ve made it an art.

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  • BlessedONE333
    Posted on August 21, 2012 at 11:59pm

    THERE IS NEVER NEVER NEVER A GOOD REASON FOR ABORTION.

    NEVER

    What excuse will you give Jesus as you stand before Him as He asks, “Why did you murder my child?”

    If you look at two images of babies growing in the womb can you tell me which ONE was RAPED?

    if you can’t take care of a child, ASK THE LORD TO HELP YOU FIND SOMEONE WHO WILL! Trust me this works. But never end a child‘s life because it’s inconvenient for you – even the excuse of womans health, is not JUSTIFIED FOR MURDER OF ONE OVER ANOTHER…which is an excuse from satan himself!!

    For those who have had abortions, been part of abortions or any other horrible actions, JESUS DIED FOR YOUR SINS AND LOVES YOU VERY MUCH. Your creator waits for you and hopes you repent from sin so you can stand before Him blameless by your repentance.

    Mistakes happen, that’s why God invented FORGIVENESS.

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    • Mr_Ditters
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 12:55am

      Its sad that so many, including within the Republican party, have grown so callous to the value of human life that they can say “Well that’s too bad you got pregnant, just abort it.”

      Of course its incredibly unfair that someone would have to bring a child to term because they were raped. It is also unfair to have been raped in the first place.

      The flip side of that is that it is also unfair to have been brought into the world by a violent act of rape. But most of all it is unfair to be killed because you are unwanted because of the conditions in which you were brought into this world.

      If only our culture was one that valued human life and believed it to be inviolable. How things might be different.

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    • hyndsyte2020
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 1:11am

      Sorry, personally I understand your reasoning and that it comes from the heart, BUT there are some things you are forgetting.
      If your objection to abortion is faith based and believe this baby is an completely innocent life, as I do, and that there is a just God and he will receive the baby’s soul into heaven, as I do, then its not the baby you are truly concerned with, it’s the injustice of ending its life before it begins. You have somehow qualified yourself to sit in judgement of another without the understanding of what is in their heart, or the anguish they are going through, as God can. We are told not to judge others, lest we be judged ourselves for this very reason, we have neither the creators insight into the soul nor his widom..
      If your argument is secular and you believe abortion is murder, then you must have a scientific and legal, not faith based, rational to prove that life not only begins at conception, but at which point the fertilized egg is to be classified as a human life. Currently, this classification is abject, being called the second trimester and is quantified as signifying the transition from clump of dividing cells into a life with recognizable features. The law has already decided this, and as imperfect a decision as it may be, it has been defined.
      Abortions that occur in the first trimester are those that would occur in cases of rape, incest, or the mothers health. Partial birth abortions should be defined both in faith and secularly as mu

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    • Ghandi was a Republican
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 1:20am

      Okay then– You carry the child to term…..

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  • TRILO
    Posted on August 21, 2012 at 11:57pm

    I’m against abortion, except…
    I’m against euthanasia, except…
    I’m against, assisted suicide….except…
    Etc, etc, etc

    See where exceptions get you. Either you are pro-life or you are not.
    FYI… Romney was a pro choice candidate as far back as 2002.

    Once again a non issue becomes an issue. Abortion should not even be a federal issue as it is no where in the 18 enumerated powers granted to the federal government by the constitution. Both the RNC and DNC party platforms go beyond the scope of federal authority.

    When the country goes over the fiscal cliff this will be the last thing people will be worried about. But hey, it is easier to focus on these social issues rather than the financial mess we are in. Wait until the effects of the drought come into the spot light. No one is even talking about that tsunami.

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    • Wango
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 12:53am

      TRILO . . . you forgot one, and it’s a biggie.

      I’m against murder, except . . .

      Ther you go. Until you can validate that one, I‘m afraid the rest of your opinions don’t mean anything.

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    • hyndsyte2020
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 1:19am

      I am for free speech-except where one walks into a theater and yells fire, I am for freedom of assembly- except those Assembly’s that become riots, I am for the right to keep and bear arms, except for crazed lunatics that walk into theaters and open fire.
      Are you starting to get it yet? Absolutes are not feasible, even in a free society

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    • Lowell1775
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:08am

      All should take a step back and ask….what is the question of abortion.

      Answer? There is no question of right or wrong other than when does life begin. With life, comes rights.

      Before that instant, it is a medical procedure. After that instant, it is murder of the most heinous and soulless kind. It becomes baby killing. The mark of fallen and failed peoples since the origins of man.

      To say beyond life, except for rape: Murder of an innocent. To say beyond life, except for incest: Murder of an innocent. To say in beyond life, in the case of a disabled or damaged child: Murder of an innocent.

      When the life of mother or child is threatened, only then can it be claimed to be a moral choice….and even then what form of mother would choose herself rather than her child? But then, only then, can an argument be made….the choice is the mother’s.

      Beyond that point when life begins, to say abortion should be left to the states is like saying the same of slavery, murder, and due process should be the purview of the states.

      Logic is harsh, but so is life.

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    • PilgrimStuckInBizarroWorld
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 10:45am

      When I was young I didn’t think pro-choice was wrong, but it wasn’t what I would choose. As medical advances have improved such as ultrasounds and my faith has become stronger in something bigger than myself my mind has changed. 1.3 million abortions is genocide. God forgive us.

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  • woodyee
    Posted on August 21, 2012 at 11:33pm

    IT’S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!

    IT’S JOBS, STUPID!

    IT’S COMMUNISM vs FREEDOM, STUPID!

    …and why SHOULD the baby die?!? He/She’s not at fault! Stupid!

    Any questions?

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  • EBL
    Posted on August 21, 2012 at 11:12pm

    http://evilbloggerlady.blogspot.com/2012/08/todd-akin-is-not-dropping-out-who-is-to.html I hope Missouri voters vote for Akin. Not because Akin is so good, but because McCaskill is so bad. No write ins, they only help McCaskill. There is only one hope (other than Akin changing his mind) and that is having him beat McCaskill.

    And there are plenty of other conservative races that need help. Go help those conservatives.

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  • RedMage
    Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:54pm

    If you believe that a baby resulting from rape is evil because one half of its makeup is evil land should be aborted (I’ve read that in some of the comments in various stories) then do you also believe that if a murderer is given the death sentence for his heinous acts, that his children should also be executed because of their genes? I cannot get around that kind of thinking.
    Killing an innocent child is killing an innocent child, no matter how you look at it. How do you argue it?

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 12:43am

      RedMage, I agree 100%. And I would invite you all to read “If” from Paul Harvey’s “More of The Rest of the Story.” Check it out here: http://therestofthestory-.tumblr.com/post/2768068461/6-if

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    • RedMage
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 1:31am

      @wool
      I read the rest of the story, and it does give one pause to think, but not to kill on a chance, ’cause we simply have no way of knowing and every child has a right to its life. Both examples may have started out just fine. Environment (family) has so much to do with how a child grows into an adult. I question how so many of our young people have gone or will go haywire because they are so entitled and don‘t understand what the word ’no’ means as pertains to them.

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 1:58am

      That was the moral of Mr. Harvey’s anecdote: No one can possibly know the future, therefore it is the absolute height of hubris to be deciding the fate of a human being based on pure speculation before its first breath is even drawn.

      In my humble opinion, the voters of each state should decide whether or not to allow abortion in that state, but NO ONE should be compelled to pay for it through their taxes.

      If a mother wants to kill her unborn child, I will leave it between her and God. But if the majority of voters in my state agree with me that abortion should be illegal, then that mother should have to go elsewhere to have it done. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE ZERO TO SAY ON THIS MATTER.

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:20pm

    I don’t get too caught up in the abortion issues at hand, because taxes are basically theft of money, and money belongs to God – so they “They” are stealing by force what belongs to God to fund exterminating babies. They will be the ones who have to answer for both the theft, and the slaughter, and the gutters they have dug for people to fall into which has caused all the unwanted pregnancies in the first place.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:33pm

      They can steal the money I earn all of it every bit of it, and I’m not responsible for the evils they [They] spend it for.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:39pm

      Money is like unto a stone, a tool, a computer in that it can be used for good and it can be used for evil by a person who steals it by force. The creator of all is not responsible for the things an evil person does with them.

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  • MODEL82A1
    Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:20pm

    Chalk one up for the Lefties, using a tried and true tactic. One idiot’s gaffe who has an “R” after his name is effectively used to hijack the entire political debate. Well, F-you, idiots, There’s real work to be done, I’ll leave you all to your idiocy. See you on the next actually meaningful thread.

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  • America is Godless
    Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:11pm

    Google is your friend people.

    Republicans will tell any lie to try to get rid of Todd Akins.

    Truth is the Platform for 2012 stays the same as since 2000 no exception for Rape or Incest.

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/08/21/159587120/gop-platform-anti-abortion-language-includes-no-exceptions-for-rape-incest?ft=1&f=1001&sc=tw

    This is a Witch Hunt to try to overcome the will of the people and deny a Republican that has been in the house 22 years his Senate Primary win. Republicans are so stupid to eat their own in such an important election. The ones calling for his ouster should get no funds. The convention should force Romney to apologise or drop out.

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  • Carefreeflyer
    Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:05pm

    We’re empowering the Liberals by perpetuating this nonsense. I’m sick of people being offended by everything. Can’t this man be slightly wrong on a subject nobody can agree on? We seem to have no problem with the media tripping up our candidates then handing the election over to their opponent. This is why we loose elections, because we’re afraid to fight for what we believe in.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:17pm

      I am offended that they are offended. OOOOOO, that offends me even more. Now I offended myself, aaaarrrrrggggghhhh. I hope I haven’t offended anyone out there by being so darn offended. Now I bet the Blaze will start censoring me because I am becoming so offensive and offended. I ****** ******* and ******* **** ****** ***** but how I really feel is ***** ****** ****** ****** *** **** ****** *** ** *****.
      So please, no offense.

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    • marine249
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 11:13pm

      @DARMOK

      None taken.
      I hope I didn’t offend you.

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  • right field
    Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:01pm

    The Federal government should have NO control of any medical decision – all medical decisions are between the individual & their physician. I am sick of all the drama about abortion when the entire country is bankrupt and my taxes just keep going up and up and I keep losing more and more of my personal freedom to idiots who want everything for free and think the answer to every problem requires a government solution – that includes both the Democrats and the Republicans.

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  • America is Godless
    Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:00pm

    This has nothing to do with his statement.

    The Establishment wants him out because they did not want him to win in the first place. Period.

    Anyone else would say sorry and that would be the end of it. I detest these Republicans that came out and said he should resign.

    He won fair and square. Mitt Romney has made gaffs and Biden was far worse than this. Is the GOP now “No Catholic need apply”.

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    • SycamoreFan
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:10pm

      Totally agree. He apologised and still has a lot of support.

      The RNC is no different than the DNC, they are a bunch of special interest peddlers. This election isn’t about electing Mitt Romney as much as it is putting together a conservative senate.

      Mitt doesn’t want a conservative senate any more than OBlammer does.

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    • QuincySmith
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:20pm

      I’m not certain about your first comment, but it is interesting to see how a democRAT gaffe elicits little criticism, and the matter is generally soon forgotten. Republicans, on the other hand; have to condemn the slightest gaffe, going so far as calling for resignation (or campaign withdrawal). Mr. Akin committed no crime, there was no moral breach; the worst that can be said is that he spoke ‘inartfully’ – what a crime. But for that ‘crime’ his party will not support him. I’m sooo tired of RINO and their establishment.

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    • QuincySmith
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:22pm

      SycamoreFan;

      Ryan choice (as VP) belies you allegation.

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  • Robert999
    Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:00pm

    As far as I know, the GOP platform for the last 20 or so years has been against abortion for any reason, but candidates for president, etc. have often allowed exceptions for rape, etc. In my opinion, there should be no exceptions. I agree with Scott Akin on this, though not on how he stated his opinion.

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  • grayling646
    Posted on August 21, 2012 at 9:44pm

    It’s the economy, stupid!!! All the crap is just fodder for the news cycle. Love Megyn though.

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  • soybomb315_II
    Posted on August 21, 2012 at 9:37pm

    i had posted this question earlier this afternoon. The last couple days, Romney has come out and is OK with abortion in the case of rape. Apparently, this has always been part of the republican party. But it is a glaring inconsistency. For example…..

    why is abortion OK in the case of rape but not in the case of consenual adults. If abortion is wrong because of the human in the womb – then it shouldnt matter HOW the baby got there….

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    • QuincySmith
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 9:46pm

      A pregnancy resulting from ‘consensual sex’ (check you spelling) differs drastically from rape, which is illegal. Your logic would say that someone earning $100,000 is the same as someone stealing $100,000 – what does it matter how they got the money. Numbskull!

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 9:51pm

      take the log out of your own eye

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    • Jenny Lind
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 9:55pm

      More important there are exceptions within religion. I am a Mormon, and was told I could not carry my fourth baby because of health conditions. My stake president was my OB, who told me he could not say I would survive, and had to make my own choice, which he would support, but could not do the procedure and would send me to one of the other drs in the group. After a week we got the papers in the mail to fill out, my husband and I looked at each other and shook our heads no. We had faith in God, it was not easy and she had problems at birth, but today is a mother of four, grandmother of two and a teacher. That is the way it should be decided, between our faith and our drs, and what we choose. The government should have no say at all. Choices that don’t connect all three, to me, are sad, but God gave each and everyone of us free agency to choose good from evil. The consequences of our actions will be judged by Him, not man. We cannot tell another person how to make that choice, we can offer help and love. Law or not, it is between a woman and God.

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    • QuincySmith
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 9:59pm

      That’s the best you have?

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    • QuincySmith
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:03pm

      Jenny, your courage and faith are amazing.

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    • v15
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:51pm

      What are views of the LDS church when it deals with rape or your life is in danger? I’m just starting to go back to church (yes, I’m a jack mormon) and I’m curious where they stand on this issue.

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    • therealconservative
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:55pm

      That’s SOYBEAN, always taking the liberal side.

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    • resme
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:55pm

      “SOY, how, exactly, do we Conservatives intend to pick and choose what kinds of abortions are “acceptable” while Roe v Wade is the law of the land?”

      @model, By supporting “We the People Act.” which would repeal Roe v. Wade and prevent activist judges from interfering with state decisions on life by removing abortion from federal court jurisdiction

      http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/hr539 ( Sponsored by Ron Paul )
      http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr1096 (Sanctity of Life Act, Also sponsored by Ron Paul )

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    • mr.goodvibe
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 11:02pm

      Soy- you hole augment is errelephant cus you mspelled sum werds. Myne is to eye gess.

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    • Jenny Lind
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 11:05pm

      V15, go to LDS.org and find out. I can‘t speak for anyone else’s experience, only my own.

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 11:39pm

      A member of Romney’s family died from botched backroom abortion. His mother was so moved that she ran for the Senate in 1970 on a pro-choice platform, Romney himself supported the law for a woman’s right to choose when he ran for the Senate in 1995. When he was Governor he supported the right-to-choose laws, proudly and publicly. Now that he’s on the payroll of the hard right he acts like none of that happened. Anyone with half a brain knows that Romney is a fraud and wont vote for him.

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    • Wango
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 12:09am

      JENNY LIND . . .” That is the way it should be decided, between our faith and our drs, and what we choose.”

      Exactly.

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    • QuincySmith
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 1:04am

      mr good;

      So glad you came to soy’s defense. I also see you were educated in a public institution.

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  • MODEL82A1
    Posted on August 21, 2012 at 9:24pm

    Obviously, We have learned NOTHING as Conservatives. As always, the Left takes an isolated gaffe by a Nobody Republican and is successful in using it to condemn, or at least taint, the entire Republican Party. I thought we’d moved beyond this. I was wrong. I’m disgusted.

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    • Verceofreason
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 9:33pm

      THe point is Paul Ryan’s views ARE EXACTLY THE SAME

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    • Socco
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 9:37pm

      Isolated gaff? Seriously? The guy is a bleeding idiot. The only job he should get is greeting people at Walmart.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 9:38pm

      So you think republican party should be FOR abortion from rapes, or AGAINST abortions from rapes?

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    • jhaydeng
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 9:45pm

      I think unconsentual sex is grounds for abortion and death to the piece of crap that is guilty of the act!

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    • Socco
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 9:50pm

      Forget the bleeding parties for a minute. Any person of conscious would agree that an abortion is the right thing to do in the case of a rape, if the victim so chooses. Anybody that disagrees with that, shouldn’t be allowed to run for even dog catcher.

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    • MODEL82A1
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 9:54pm

      SOY, you mindless imbecile, The Conservative Movement should be in favor of Abortion Lawmaking Power (in all respects) being returned to the States. (As should all non-enumerated powers). Sadly, you don‘t even understand what I’m talking about. If you understood, you wouldn’t be a Lefty.

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    • PilgrimStuckInBizarroWorld
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 9:57pm

      All abortion is murder. There should be NO exceptions. Until this nation stops killing babies in the womb our nation is doomed.1.3 million abortions is genocide. May God help the blind see and may the truth set us free.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:16pm

      @MODEL82A1
      You should have said that from the begining. You know the republican party (and the conservatives) do not endorse what you just said – but it is Ron Paul’s position….And i agree with it. I would prefer a Constitutional amendment before the federal government gets involved in abortion – otherwise it should be a state issue

      You shouldnt be so judgemental against people who agree with you on 90% of the issues

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    • MODEL82A1
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:30pm

      SOY, how, exactly, do we Conservatives intend to pick and choose what kinds of abortions are “acceptable” while Roe v Wade is the law of the land? You should spend more time and energy educating yourself instead of blindly following.

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    • MODEL82A1
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:40pm

      Ron Paul uses the Constitution as an excuse to further his anti-Semitic beliefs than he uses it to “protect” Americans from anything. The fact that he understands Enumerated Powers and I do too, doesn’t connect us in any way, SOYBEAN.

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    • mr.goodvibe
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 11:04pm

      Agreed Pilgrim.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 11:21pm

      @MODEL82A1
      I am not Ron Paul

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    • edmundburk
      Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:59pm

      we have laws against hard drug use why NOT abortion? if your arguments are for the Independence of the human body.

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  • lukerw
    Posted on August 21, 2012 at 9:18pm

    The Federal Government has NO RIGHT being involved in Birth Matters! Let the States handle their own Business!

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