Megyn Kelly Panel Explodes Over Who Is the Biggest Campaign Ad Liar – Obama or Romney?
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Left to right: Chris Hahn, Megyn Kelly, Chris Plante
On Tuesday, the panel on Fox News Channel’s “America Live” with Megyn Kelly debated fiercely over the valid question: Who is the biggest campaign ad liar, President Obama or GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney?
Conservative radio host Chris Plante and former aide to Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) Chris Hahn argued until they were practically just screaming over one another as each accused the other‘s preferred candidate of airing deceptive television ads and then accused each other of lying about their candidate’s lying.
The debate started about a pro-Obama ad that calls Romney a corporate raider and an “outsourcer-in-chief,” referring to his time at Bain Capital. The Romney campaign has called the attack “misleading” and now a “vicious lie.” Kelly cited a FactCheck.org report that said there was no evidence that Romney was directly responsible for outsourcing jobs.
Kelly then asked Hahn if continuing to use the argument is the best way to go for the Obama campaign. He answered like, well, a politician.
“If it works, keep doing it. That’s the way politics is,” Hahn said. “Every time Americans pick up the phone and they get a call center operator from India, they can thank Mitt Romney for that, in part, because he was very much at the forefront of creating those kind of atmospheres around the world.”
“Wow,” Plante could be heard saying as he listened to his co-panelists answer.
Kelly asked Plante whether Hahn had a point and if voters would associate Romney with outsourcing, Bain and corporate greed as a result of the ads.
“It would be nice if the Democrats and the Obama campaign had any regard for the truth, but we can’t rely on that so we’ll have to go to plan B,” said Plante. “Look, Chris Hahn, you just said you don‘t care in effect if it’s true or not.”
Plante went on to say that networks should refuse to run ads that are proven to be factually incorrect. He mentioned the Washington Post‘s previous report that gave the Obama campaign’s outsourcing ad “four Pinocchios,” the maximum amount.
“Meaning that they’re lying, can we just say that outright? But the Democrats don’t care,” he added. “They see it as effective. They don’t really have any relationship with the truth here.”
“I always find it funny, now that Mitt Romney is getting the same treatment back to him, how he whines and complains and demagogues about…” Hahn started.
“So you’re conceding these are lies, right,” Plante interrupted.
“I don’t think they are lies,” Hahn shot back. “Mitt Romney wants you to define what the definition of is is.”
“No, that was your guy,” Plante replied.
Hahn said he rejects the recent Washington Post reports that question the accuracy of the Obama campaign‘s ads against Romney’s record at Bain specifically about outsourcing jobs. It goes without saying, WaPo is not exactly what one would consider a conservative news source.
“If we only had an honest news media or networks that wouldn’t knowingly run lies from political candidates, I think we would have a better, cleaner, more civil political discussion in this country,” Plante added.
“When Romney agrees to stop lying maybe we will stop having to split hairs on his record,” said Hahn. “Every word out of his mouth has been a lie. Every word. Mitt Romney has not told the truth once this entire election season.”
Plante’s facial expression was one of disbelief.
“I’m flabbergasted by that. That’s an obvious falsehood,” Plante replied. “And I wish you wouldn’t perpetuate it.”
Watch the fiery segment below courtesy of Fox News Channel:
(H/T: Mediaite)
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Individualism
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 9:58pmObama = Romney
Report Post »Trenaway
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:10amGo away Ron Paul cultist freak job!
Report Post »black9897
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:15amIt’s true. Only the naive still believe Romney is actually any good.
Report Post »michael48
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 10:04amand only a braindead, socialist POS would vote for chairman ocommie…
Report Post »black9897
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:13pmYep. That’s why I would never vote for him. In fact, our wonderful little Republic has become so corrupt, it doesn’t matter who you vote for anymore!
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 7:49amWell Obama gave 52 billion in US TAX DOALLRS to GM.Gm is downsizing in America and building new plants in China,Mexico,and Europe while it still owes the tax payers 34 billion. Obama gave 1.2 billion to Sun One who shut down it’s American plant and is building in Mexico,Obama gave 1.4 billion to Fisker a european company who builds electric cars in Europe. Some tell Obama that reguardless of what Romney did he did it with his and other private investors money. And actually made money He on the other hand is funding over sea jobs with US TAX PAYER DOLLARS
Report Post »monstermaker
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 3:21pmits true no matter who wins its only time until we are worse of than Europe
Report Post »Stelex
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 8:22pmRomney will be elected, but will not be able to stop the ship.The ship hits the berg any day now. Swapping captains will just provide one seat on a lifeboat. Obama will dress up as Michelle and hop on a lifeboat. Romney will try to steer the ship but its already tanked. Stock up, be prepared and make like minded friends.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:49pmRomney will never be elected.
Report Post »Kelly Henderson
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 10:29amYour comment is spot on.
Report Post »scudster
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 8:11pmChris Hahn is incredibly stupid; this idiot would rather burn with his obama god than admit that obama rarely if ever tells the truth.
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 10:15pmChris Hahn your chin was tailor made for my fists. I would give my next two paychecks to have the opportunity to be put into a room with this dolt for just 5 minutes, one on one, and have a dentist on stand by so he/she could wire his jaw afterwards. This would solve two big things;
1. I would feel so very satisfied
2. His jaw would be wired shut so we wouldn’t have to listen to his lies and moronic talking points for at least 6 weeks.
Win, win for all of us.
I forgot one thing that would be needed, a change of underwear for Chris.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 12:02amChris Hahn is simply a D i c k with ears. But, I have to hand it to his mentor, Chuck Schumer who taught Chris well.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:16pmTruth is an elusive intangible with liberals that may change on a fairly regular basis. A great recent example is whether the Ocare mandate is a “Tax” or a “penalty”. Truth is also a hard immovable object. Better for liberals to deal in shades of grey in which they are only judged by their “good intentions” rather than objective results.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 7:57amAll this says is the next Civil war won’t be the war of Northern Aggression.It will be the war of tyrannical agression from all direction. Secession is looking like the most viable option bat this point. Especially in states like Texas,Arizona,New Mexico,Florida,Alask and Louisiana. Where tyrannical government is passing laws without congressional approval to block those states from protecting the citizens,control illegal immigration,and generating a better economy for it’s citizen.
Report Post »If the vote were held today I can guarrantee one for for secession here in Virginia.
antiepa
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 11:09amMost people believe people are sincere until proven wrong. Obama has a gift for telling us what we want to hear. Many times he is telling us the truth, but unfortunately it is not the truth we think we hear. Those who always hear only what they want to hear are Obama’s useful idiots. The best way to interpret Obama’s words is to think of how what he says can be construed to mean the worst possible thing that could happen to you. So now we‘ve found out that Obama’s got a Connecticut Social Security Number that was issued between issued 1977-1979 (when Obama was 15 years old living in Hawaii) that could only be issued in Connecticut following their mandatory in-person interview. Where is the public record Obama visited Connecticut between 1977 and 1979? After Obama was caught in a published lie, Obama tells us he used “compression” to create a fictional girlfriend. Could his social security number be a “compression” too? If Obama’s Social Security Number is a lie too, why is Obama on any state’s election ballot? Look at this:
Report Post »http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/obamas-social-security-number-challenged/
CPLGEORGE
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 7:30pmWhy don’t political ads have to meet the same scrutiny that any other advertisement has to? If it is a lie, it is subject to the very same laws and standards the drug, food, consumer product manufacturers have to? If they fail, they are subject to prosecution and forfeiture of the office they are seeking. And, the candidate is responsible for any of his/her staff also. Want to clean Washington, DC up, that will do it in a hurry.
Report Post »tommyg524
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 7:25pmBoth parties are owned by the banks, why doesnt everyone get this?
Report Post »loggs14
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 10:43pmOK, say both parties are owned by the banks? What are we suppose to do? This idealism from my right and people aren’t much more right than myself, need to wake up and chose… We can dislike the politics and wish we had real conservatism, etc… but most of the time the choice between right and wrong, its which wrong is more right…
I will take a republican government over a leftist government anyday… atleast we can try to control our elected officials with our votes… we obviously can’t control the left at all.. They always make the wrong choices… There only guidance, “is what would stalin do? What would Mao do? What can I do to hinder peoples rights?”
If the choice is big or little gov. The always chose BIG. If its balanced budget or deficit. They chose deficit. If the choice is constitution or anticonstitution. They chose anti constitution. Etc…. all day we can go with..
I am under no lefist fantasy that my side is perfect or doesn’t make mistakes… again its your call… Obama will accomplish nothing a second term that he doesn’t do executively… The house can stop him, but that is four more years of no fixes, as DIMS do NOT want a solution to anything, just the issues to lie about..
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:50pmYour suppose to pick some one other than Republican or Democrat. Both parties are frauds!!
Report Post »Longinthetooth
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:16amLGGS14- et al;
This is ultimately very simple.
“Money Makes the World go Round”
“The Golden Rule; He who has the Money Makes the Rule(r)s”
Who & What + Why = Central Banking/ The Fed/ ECB/ IMF/ BIS/ Council on Foreign Relations/ U.N.
When did this all manifest itself in the US?= 1900-1916
When did “Progressivism” Manifest itself in the US? =1900-1916
Who was President when this Occurred? =Woodrow Wilson
Revelation 13:18 “Here is Wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666″
2nd Chronicals 9:13; Solomons Wealth; …“The weight of gold that came to Solomon yearly was Six hundred and sixty six talent of gold”. (666; The wealth of Kings)
Now; Who is the ONLY ENTITY IN THE HISTORY of MODERN GOVERNMENT that has attempted to “attack” the “Wealth of Kings”? CLUE; RP
Why is anyone who supports RP considered a “crackpot”? CLUE; Money makes the World go Round
Proverbs 4 SECURITY in WISDOM
…..25) Let you eyes look straight ahead,
and your eyelids look right before you.
26) Ponder the path of your feet,
and let all your ways be established.
27) Do not turn to the RIGHT or to the LEFT; (the pendulum of extremes)
Remove your foot from evil.”
Man is only governed by his own consent.
Either by virtue
Or by lies, deceit and deception…his own or by others
Cut the Head from the Snake and the Body will die…………….
God Bless(ed) the USA
Report Post »Mess23
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 7:09pmThe Pres lies about Romney’s record and then calls Romney a liar for not responding to his lies clear enough?
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:51pmThey are both liars. Face the facts
Report Post »mhojai
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 7:07pm“who’s the biggest liar?” –Is this a trick question? It’s a joke, right?
Report Post »The marxist clowm that makes clinton look like a choir boy-(in the honesty department) and there is some question or doubt regarding his veracity? Would you doubt that the sun is hot?
How about, is water wet?
Are Obama’s lips moving? –He’s lying!! That’s about the only thing you can take to the bank!
abbygirl1994
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 7:07pmWhat hypocrites, how many jobs has Obama created outside of the United States, drill baby drill in Brazil! How about the Chinese building our bridges!! The truth be known Obama has created more jobs outside of the US than in.. Lets talk about how many jobs Obama has created, helped people lose.. To heck with the outsourcing.. wake up America.. Obama lies.. you want a freaking job then vote for Romney.. all you will see if you get Obama is more loss jobs and a dictator running America! God help us!
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 7:00pmWe know that politicians lie!!! What gets me, is they actually think we are stupid enough to believe them!
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 7:06pmAnd yet the winners are (to me anyway) typically the one who was the most vicious on the trail. There is no penalty for lying. People vote with their hearts instead of their heads, unfortunately.
Report Post »DADDYWOREAWHITEHAT
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:43pm@ex
Report Post »You are correct. So many people voted in 2008 for what they “felt” would give them that warm fuzzy feeling. How’s that feeling now? Time for a real change!
jackbauer
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:57pmIf you don‘t have a moral compass then what’s wrong with a little lying? Obama is just doing what he’s gotta do to get elected. Prog/Libs live in a moral relativism, desert. A barren place where all is fair and fair game. If you don‘t like what’s happening, make something up!
Report Post »How dare conservative thinkers believe in something like absolute truth. That’s like black and white and life is shades of gray. (sarcasm)
term limits for congress
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:56pmWhen is someone going to do a story about the out-sourcing/off-shoring of jobs that local, state, and the federal government do? They do it indirectly by hiring contractors to do a job and then allowing the contractor to hire sub-contractors who off-shore the jobs.
Democrats are liars – known that for a long time. Hmmm… don’t the Muslims have a similar policy when it comes to infidels? I’m starting to see a pattern.
Report Post »Kelly Henderson
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 10:37amHow can obama talk about what Romney done at Bain when he (obama) has let 20 Mil. Illegals into this country to replace American workers? And it was a lie when we were told that the illegals were only doing jobs that Americans didnt want.Now they are coming here unchecked each and every day. We are so SCREWED thanks to obama and the ass-sucking democrats.
Report Post »Constructionist
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:43pmSometimes I wonder how Hahn could possibly be so ignorant, then I remember… he worked for Chuck (Three branches of government: The President, the Senate, and the House) Schumer.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:41pmChris Hahn’s “reasoning” is warped and disgusting. He says that it is okay for Obama to lie because it is so effective. He doesn‘t deny that Obama’s commercials are lies, he just says that they are effective and then he when he realizes what he actually says he turns around and claims that everything that Romney says is a lie, and also claims that radical right wing newspaper, the Washington Post is lying.
Hahn is a smirky little worm. He worked for Chucky-boy Schumer which says a whole lot about him.
Report Post »Legion5
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:41pmthe only honest politician is a dead one
Report Post »stopspendingourmoney
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:49pmAmen brother, well with the exception of Ron Paul.
Report Post »AZindependent
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:52pmMSM wondering which politicians lie the most, the irony.
Report Post »mayihelpyou
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:41pmChris Hahn is the typical queer. Emotional and the truth means nothing
Report Post »Verceofreason
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 7:46pmHave you seen Rush in a cowboy hat early in his caqueer?
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:41pmThis is like arguing what kind of cancer is best….
Report Post »FormYourOwnOp
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:31pmWeird.. When I call my student loan company, which I borrowed student loans for an American College and American Graduate College, I speak to an Indian (not the Elizabeth Warren kind…lol). What’s the difference?
Report Post »IamWhatIam
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:26pmI can easily and immediately tell if any politician is lying – his/her lips are moving!!!
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:24pmIn a lying contest Dems always win.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:05pmNo contest there. Obama lies constantly and all the Dems/Progressives only know how to lie. I think they would drop dead if they told the truth.
Report Post »LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:30pmLiberals are record holding liars. Obama lies over and over, all day, every day. Billy boy clinton lied to 300 million people at the same time…”I did not have sex with that woman…..” And the libs still look up to clinton as if he deserves any respect whatsoever. I doesnt matter that he cheated on his wife with a woman young enough to be his own daughter, libs love that sort of thing. Liberals choose to use lies constantly because thats all they have. Only one problem with their method, the truth wins in the end!
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:52pmYour right. Liberals are famous for lying, but guess what? Your so called Mitt Romney is a liar too. and BIG one. This guy is no conservative. You should be ashamed of your selves for voting for this fraud.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:04pmThat’s what the new libs are all about – the ends justify the means. Just like Valerie Jarret said about Taxacare.
Report Post »Pokerjoe
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 1:39pmTaxacare,Thats good. Im in the IHS system and Ill tell you its a mess. If you can see doctor and get good care its a long shot. But I will say it does happen. Taxacare! I will be a big mess and if it comes true all of the USA will be down the tubes. ElObumbo will be to thank. This guy is nuts if he thinks it will work. When the gov gets that much money you can bet it will fill the pockets of his and his buddys. Taxacare. This one should go all over the place. Thank you.
Report Post »Altair
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 5:54pmHahn is a nauseating Democrat mouthpiece. Please excuse the redundant phraseology. A typical low-class liberal who consistently interrupts Lou Dobbs on his show… I have no idea why Fox inflicts people like that on its audience.
Report Post »cookcountypatriot
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 5:54pmprogressiveism is a lie….so ya know
Report Post »woodypynes
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 5:54pmWhat a shame. We are now at the point of “which one lies the most”. The whole premise of that question insinuates both lie (just one more than the other), which they do. Well, if this isn‘t the typical ’lesser of two evils’ BS story….I don’t know what is. Anyone who lies campaigning for office and/or serving in office should be removed immediately. End of story.
Report Post »ZBP
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:02pmAgreed.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 6:22pmIt’s more like “the evil of two lessers”.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 11:54pmI will never vote for the lesser of two evils ever again. SO if Romney thinks he is getting my vote than your dreaming in LA LA land.
Report Post »Cloth Stews
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 5:49pmI wrote to Chris Hahn after this interview. It will be interesting to see if he responds.
Report Post »Here_It_Comes
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 5:56pmWhat did you write?
Report Post »Verceofreason
Posted on July 3, 2012 at 7:47pmMust have gone through the whole box of crayons.
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