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Mich. Cops Can Now Steal Your Cell Phone Data — ‘Without the Owner Knowing’

It’s a scary scenario. You’re driving down the road and get pulled over by a state patrolman. After checking your license and registration, the officer asks for your cell phone, and then uses a futuristic machine to download all your data. In Michigan, it’s happening.

Mich. Cops Can Now Steal Your Cell Phone Data Without the Owner Knowing

An extraction device sold by manufacturer Cellebrite.

CNet.com reports the Michigan State Police (MSP) are using “extraction devices” to download personal information from motorists’ cell phones, including contacts, videos, GPS data, and pictures, “even if they’re not suspected of any crime.”

“The handheld machines have various interfaces to work with different models and can even bypass security passwords and access some information,” CNet says. The MSP have admitted to owning five of the devices.

The ACLU isn’t happy. In a press release last week, the group continued its mission to have the MSP hand over records indicating how the information is being used. For three years, the release says, the MSP has been giving the ACLU the run around. In fact, it’s now come to the point where the MSP is demanding over $500,000 in processing fees to fork over the data.

“We should not have to go on expensive fishing expeditions in order to discover whether police are violating the rights of residents they have resolved to protect and serve,” the release said.

“Complete extraction of existing, hidden, and deleted phone data, including call history, text messages, contacts, images, and geotags,” a brochure from device manufacturer Cellebrite says about the tool’s capabilities. “The Physical Analyzer allows visualization of both existing and deleted locations on Google Earth. In addition, location information from GPS devices and image geotags can be mapped on Google Maps.”

The ACLU also says the data extraction can take place “without the owner of the cellphone knowing.”

The group is now threatening to sue in order to get the data.

“This seems like a pretty obvious violation of the 4th Amendment prohibition of unreasonable searches and seizures,” Business Insider writes. “If a police officer can’t look into your trunk when you get pulled over, they certainly can’t download your photos and text messages.”

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:08am

    Funny you all should mention problems with “law officers”. Sometimes it is difficult to tell the real ones from the impostors. Isn’t that how satan works.

    PRAY FOR DISCERNMENT and follow your “gut” instinct.

    We could also ask for his/her phone, too, could we not? Worth a try.

    Of course a polite, “No, Sir“ or ”No, Mam“ followed by ”when hell freezes over” might work…. or not.

     
  • Ryan
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:08am

    There are already laws about officers searching cell phone’s without P.C.. So everyone take a deep breath and relax. The case law already exists and if it doesn’t exist in Michigan, it will very soon. It is still a great little gadget for law enforcement when there is P.C.. You can get everything you need on a suspect and it is on digital file for court. Excellent! I doubt departments are spending the money to enforce driving /w cell phone laws. You can bet that if an officer nabs a gang banger who just got done gang raping a girl and you want to know who his friends are, you have this neat little tool find out.

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    • ltb
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 2:55pm

      Ryan, people like you make me sick. You’re a disgrace to America, you’re a disgrace to the great men who made so many sacrifices to found this country and you’re a disgrace to the millions of people who have died over the past couple of centuries to protect the freedom of cavalier morons like yourself.

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    • unabashed
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 11:11pm

      LTB,
      While i respect your right to your opinion, and to voice your opinion, I feel as though It would be a great injustice to leave this thread without voicing my disgust for the manner in which it was conveyed.
      Technology is indifferent to morality. Devices like these are only tools, it is a hard heart that uses it for ill purposes. These devices can be used legitimately as a forensic tool, and I’m sure that the majority of the law enforcement officers in Michigan use this tool in the manner for which it was intended, but as mentioned earlier, it only takes one bad cop to tarnish their image. Should tasers be outlawed because of the Ohio cop that brutalized a woman? No. Should firearms be banned because they can (and have) been used for ill intent? No. Therefore, you baseless assault of a person’s character by using a discombobulated string of non arguments having almost nothing to do with the issue at hand has no place in a civilized discussion such as this.
      In short, I’ll summarize this reply with words that someone as asinine as your self can understand.
      FART, OR EAT MORE FIBER! EITHER WAY, REMOVE YOUR HEAD FROM YOUR BUTT!

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  • MidWestMom
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:06am

    We should all carry a copy of the Constitution & Bill of Rights at all times. Pull it out whenever something like this happens. Ask the “official” to point out exactly where in these documents it states he has the right to do…. insert violation of your choice…..

    Use your phone (most have audio/video/picture capabilities) to record his answer. If your phone can’t do this, request a disinterested party to witness the event. Have them sign an affidavit.

    Bet ya dollars to donuts the “official” will just melt away…… they don’t want that headache.

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    • Tyr
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 11:08am

      You WANT to be dragged out of your car and beaten? You go ahead and use that one and let us know how that worked out for ya!

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    • TitaniumMan
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:35pm

      TYR, you must be a nazi pig. Only a NP would say that.

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    • Jerbear1098
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 1:11pm

      OR… When in Michigan, carry a copy of this. http://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/MSP_Legal_Update_No._84_326940_7.pdf

      It‘s the legal update telling the MSP that they can’t grab a phone.

      VEHICLE CODE
      Texting while driving
      Effective: July 1, 2010
      Public Act 60 of 2010 added MCL 257.602b to the Michigan Vehicle Code. The new subsection prohibits a person from reading, manually typing, or sending a text message on a wireless 2-way communication device, including a cell phone, that is located in the person’s hand or in the person’s lap while operating a motor vehicle that is moving on a highway or street in this state. Global positioning or navigation systems affixed to motor vehicles are not considered a wireless 2-way communication device for purposes of the subsection.

      The subsection includes exceptions for operator’s reporting traffic crashes, crimes, and other emergencies. Additionally, there is an exception for police officers, law enforcement officials, fire department members (paid and volunteer), and operators of emergency vehicles when using a 2-way communication device to carry out their official duties.

      MCL 257.602b is a primary enforcement law; a violation is a civil infraction punishable by a civil fine.
      Officers are reminded they cannot obtain a search warrant or an investigative subpoena solely for a violation of MCL 257.602b because a violation is a civil infraction. Officers may seek to obtain consent from an individual to examine his or her 2-way communication device; however, absent consent, officers may not lawfully seize an individual’s device and examine the contents.

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    • petie3
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 8:13pm

      Ask that black idiot
      Rodney King
      who got the snot beat out of him’
      was burning LA worth it?

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  • raingear
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:05am

    I heard just the other day that these things are in Florida too and didn’t believe they could / would be used. Funny – here if you are young (16-20) and are pulled over for anything, even randomly, an officer WILL request to search your vehicle and if you refuse or ask for a warrant they will find “probable cause” to search your vehicle. If they do indeed have this device, I‘m sure they’ll be using it randomly. Failure to comply will mean big, big headaches. I’ve told my under aged kids to request to call their parents when this happens prior to allowing any search etc. So far I‘ve never received a call and they’ve never been searched, i.e. been sent on their way. But their friends who make their own decisions have had the contents of their vehicles completely emptied. Why wouldn’t an officer also download their phone info as well.

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  • RED-DAWN
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:04am

    Once upon a time, in a land far, far away (Dade County, FL) I worked as a police officer. I once attended a training class (a week long) where we were taught how to talk someone into allowing us (consenting) to search their vehicle without a warrant. As I sat in the class, I remember thinking sure, this will work on a law abiding citizen, and someone that has nothing to hide but a hard-core convict will tell us to kiss his ass! The verbiage went something like this and it has a bit of a rhythm to it:
    Sir, are you aware of the fact firearms are a problem in this area? NO.
    Sir, are you aware of the drug problem in this area? NO.
    Sir, are you aware of the fact that people in this area transport firearms and drugs in their vehicle? NO.
    Sir, do you have any firearms or drugs in your vehicle? NO.
    Sir, I would assume that you would not mind if I look (search) in your vehicle to make sure? NO.
    Keep in mind, this law abiding citizen has just forfeited his/her right to a search of their vehicle and ANYTHING found will be admitted into a trial. Face it, if they get you into a rhythm of saying the word NO, you may say it without realizing what you have done. Then, they place you in the back of the police car, for safety reasons while they search. All the while knowing that if you are locked in that car with the windows up, they will never be able to hear you revoke that consent.
    I have had this tactic used on me three times in the last ten years. Be prepared for the attitude you will encounter when you outsmart them at this game. They are usually quite pissed.
    KNOW YOUR RIGHTS, THE GAMES THAT WILL BE PLAYED AND THE RULES OF THE GAME. BE PREPARED, I FEAR IT IS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE!

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:18am

      Excellent information Red. I mentioned that basic psychological manipulation is taught rote to police officers above in the thread. The best thing a person can do is remain absolutely silent, and give no indication that he even hears the officer, except to produce a license and proof of insurance of course. The only exception is to request a warrant if they demand a search, then go right back to absolute silence and stone cold non-movement.

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    • TitaniumMan
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:32pm

      Red, you are a good man. Everybody needs to know this stuff. I believe that the cops might be wishing that they hadn’t tried this crap with the cell phones. It has now created a nationwide crash coarse on civil rights for the whole nation to absorb. Ha Ha

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  • Xpat48
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:02am

    Ya, well good luck officer……..I don’t own or have a cell phone!

    Stop resisting sir. Sir stop resisting. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzap

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  • Sinista MACE
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:57am

    Also, after refusing to be illegally searched and your phone illegally seized, demand to be taken directly to a magistrate or judge.

    If they have a judge on site of the stop to give them warrant to illegally search you, you have to contact a lawyer and allow them to violate your rights and then pursue it in a court of law AFTER THE FACT.

    Of course, you have no chance of winning against the cops in a court of law that is corrupt and gives them the benefit of the doubt in every circumstance, even cold blooded murder in front of a train station full of juveniles.

    It’s called no refusal checkpoints for a reason, because you have no recourse other than to allow them to violate your rights up front, and pursue them afterwards.

    Of course, you could try to run away… Swarzenegger “Running Man” style… Maybe Patrick Swayze “Escape from New York” or “Red Dawn” style… maybe even Ripley escaping from the prison planet on “Aliens” style…

    Welcome to the Police State.

    Located on the Prison Planet.

    Stop supporting your PRISON GUARDS by stop paying their salaries.

    You know, those guys dressed up like futuristic Nazis… who hide under billboards and jump out at you like a lion lurking in wait for its prey…

    “Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.”

    “Stay alert! Watch out for your great enemy, the devil. He prowls around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour.”

    Leo, the lion.

    L aw

    E nforcement

    O fficer

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  • red_white_blue2
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:57am

    I would refuse, and then let the legal system play itself out. I’m sure a decent attorney could easily make a case.

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  • 1stzookid
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:51am

    What did people that voted for a Socialist, Leftist, Communist, Muslim — OBAMA think he was going to do? He plainly said he was going to CHANGE America.

    KISS YOUR FREEDOMS GOOD-BYE! And say hello to hell!

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    • Nick84
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 5:39pm

      You do realize that this is state level, so it has nothing to do with the president. It has everything to do with the state’s republican governor, though.

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  • Outlaw_Josey_Wales
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:50am

    Spit

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  • Your Name Here
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:48am

    If it were me I’d make a dummy phone that has a capacitor and a extra sized battery in it so that as soon as anything plugs into the port it would discharge into the attached device, smoking it.
    “Hey, you said to give you my phone. You plugged it in to someting? If I’d have known that I might have been able to warn you.”

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:02am

      I like that!
      Where can I get this lil’ toy???

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    • regina4u
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 2:52pm

      at big lots discount store they sell toy phones that talk in Chinese pick one up today

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  • bhelmet
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:47am

    TOO MUCH government doing TOO MANY things not granted under the Constitution. I know it is a dead document, but when do we perform CPR?

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  • Rickfromillinois
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:46am

    Unfortunately many police officers will brow beat and threaten people who refuse to give over their cell phones so people will do it. It is understandable for the people to do so. Either turn over your phone or all of a sudden you are being threatened with traffic tickets, searches, possible arrests, just plain harassed. Yes it is an abuse of power, and yes people should stand up to violations of the Constitution, but it is understandable why people give in, especially if they have been raised to believe that all police are our friends. Unfortunately not all police officers are, and a large percentage of police chiefs who are more politicians then law enforcement officers are not. Sometimes all citizens are in a position to Defend the Constitution of the United States. Report abuses. If you see it happening take pictures and even better videos.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:13am

      Quite correct. The biggest mistake, outside of not knowing your rights, is to try to get into a verbal debate with an officer, or even engage in casual conversation. They’re taught to subtly fish for information out of any conversation, even “friendly” chats. Say “no, unless you can produce a warrant please” and then say nothing else, at all. Don’t even look him in the eyes, keep both hands in plain sight, and do not make any gestures or give any indications that you have even vestigial emotions.

      Works like a magic.

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  • Rokoll
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:45am

    show me a warrant sounds good. unless you live where the cops dont care.

    i was thrown in jail for almost 9 hours one night for attempting to smoke a cigarette, in my OWN jeep. Top off, doors off, and what appeared to be a wreck with stopped traffic both ways, i rolled my jeep to a stop as an officer approached. it became evident they were looking for someone and stopping traffic not due to an accident. as the office was looking over my ID and another questioning my passenger, i reached for a smoke in my pocket T. I was told i could not smoke. I laughed and began to smoke anyway. it took all of about 30 seconds for me to wind up on the hood of my jeep, cuffed and stuffed and ran downtown. yes, because i didnt listen to the officer that told me not to smoke.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:10am

      Whether the cops care or not is immaterial. So you spent 9 hours in jail, well, so be it. Local cops not caring can and often are made into large legal cases and suddenly they start caring. Never fear cops. Be respectful, but know your rights and never give them up voluntarily.

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:43am

    Can’t the phone company just access that info? Kind of like the computer chips in cars.

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    • Your Name Here
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:54am

      No, they can’t access any info, unless the phone is connected to an external device to download the information.
      They cannot pull your phone’s stored information over the air.
      The phone companies also require a warrant before they will allow anyone to access any information on any customers.
      If anyone is caught giving this information without proper authorization they will be fired and then prosecuted.
      I know this because I work in telecommunications.

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    • TitaniumMan
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:22pm

      Your name here-You are a patriot sir. Stand firm!

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  • enuffnow
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:43am

    Rarely agree with the ACLU. Big brother needs to reeled in. This is clearly unreasonable search and seizure. Unconstitutional.

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 1:55pm

      Cops have been doing this same thing one way or another since there were cops – nothing new. If you don’t exercise your rights (see GHOST, he has it right) they you don’t have any.

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  • Dandylyon
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:43am

    Why is this surprizeing?Everyday brings more distrust and fear for the bottomfeeders that make up our government,they need to know what we are planing to do about it.They know we as a free population won’t take this forever therefor new and better ways to listen to what to we think and feel.

    If this is what they are showing you………………….imagine what they really have.

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    • TitaniumMan
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:15pm

      You are correct . They fear the populace will come for them sooner or later and they are trying every trick in the book.

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  • mikenleeds
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:38am

    just another part of having all your rights stripped away under king obama rule

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:45am

      You’re not being stripped of your rights, actually. If you voluntarily give an officer permission to search *anything*, then no warrant is required. You should politely but firmly refuse, as IS your right, unless they produce a warrant specifically citing what they’re searching for, where they’re searching, and that is signed by a bench judge.

      This goes for anything really. If they want to “look around”, they often ask directly first and most people get nervous and say “yeah, sure”. Just say no, and again if they press it or get mouthy, politely request the warrant. Ultimately no matter how snippy they become and how much they try to intimidate you, you have the law on your side and they know it.

      They’re taught basic psychology on how to get you to give up your rights voluntarily. Simply know your rights and say as little as possible outside of “show me your warrant please”. You will win.

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    • Tyr
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 11:00am

      This is not an “Obama” left wing activity. This is Right-wing all the way! If you now believe that the police are part of the vast Marxist/Socialist, Progressive, Leftist cadre…..you got to be kidding! It is the Right that has historically behaved in this Facist police state fashion. Additionally, if this were a Leftist activity the ACLU would not even be interested. You folks need to stop thinking that everything is defined by Left and Right. This is our government oppressing it citizens, violating their rights and using authority given to them by the “Reich” to justify these actions. The frickin’ Republicans and the Right are just as good at opression and violating the Constitution as the Democrats and the Left are. Get you heads out of the sand….Please1

      RED-DAWN
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:04am
      This is precisely why I say the police are not our friends. They do not work for the citizen to “Serve & Protect”. They are exactly on par with the German Schutzstaffel of WWII.

      Tyr  
    • ilovethiscountry
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 6:54pm

      Ghost, remember that they can seize your property if they think that you are commiting a crime. They keep it and sell it to help support their junkets, etc. I don’t remember what it is called, but by the time you have proved that they illegally took your property they have sold or spent it. I have heard of this befor and the suprime court has upheld this.

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    • BlueStrat
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:17pm

      @ I Love This Country

      It’s called Property Forfeiture. The laws regarding the government’s ability to seize private property have been changed and reinterpreted. They get around the Constitutional proscription against at-will property seizures by agents of the government by charging the PROPERTY with a crime. Not a person. You have no standing to protest in a court of law as YOU are not charged or being tried.

      It doesn‘t matter if you are ever charged with any offense or whether you’re judged innocent or guilty, as they are charging inanimate property with a crime and not a person. Therefor the property gets no Constitutional protections, as property is not given Constitutional protections.

      Accounts abound of police seizing money & property from motorists with no probable cause other than that the money/property was there, and they weren’t “satisfied” that it wasn’t involved in some unknown criminal activity.

      People carrying money to purchase a used/vintage vehicle from private buyers and others with perfectly legitimate reasons to be carrying a few hundred or a few thousand in cash, even when proof was offered for the purpose, have had their money seized and never saw any of it back. The same things occur with other property as well.

      There have been documented instances of entire police departments participating in such illegitimate seizures as a means to generate revenue for their department and the city/township.

      It‘s extremely frustrating when the police seize your property without just cause and you find the courts won’t even allow you to file against the seizure or provide evidence or testimony in defense.

      They can now seize and search your communications without a warrant, seize any money or property they find, and you as a citizen don’t even have to be arrested or convicted, and you have no ability to be judged by a jury of your peers.

       
  • Kris
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:37am

    I would certainly go to jail, or even smash my cell phone on the roadway, before I handed my phone over to an officer for this kind of illegal activity.

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  • sister1_rm
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:37am

    Ooh! The ACLU. Uh huh. Can a group that actually cares about citizens’ constitutional rights get after the MI police! I live in the state of MI and I think it better be me.

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:36am

    Tell the cop you cannot give him the phone because you’re exercising your rights under the 5th Amendment.

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    • BeeAlert
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:03am

      I agree, but it is very upsetting to be stopped by the police and hard to think calmly. One more reason I‘m happy I don’t have a cell phone.

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    • TitaniumMan
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:19pm

      Excuse me my brother Ted. It is the 4th amendment that addresses illegal search and siezures. The 5th amendment is against self incrimination when accused of a crime. Carry on soldier.

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 4:40pm

      @titanium.. PIG ?? what the hell is the matter with you ?? there is no way in this world that you are a conservative… If you think you are rethink your status because we conservatives have the utmost respect for the law and NEVER call them “ pigs ” … We don’t need someone like that.. wise up.

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  • RED-DAWN
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:35am

    Well let’s see, as a former police officer, my response would be, Sir, with all due respect, YOU CAN KISS MY ASS! Then, you are welcome to recover whatever data you find…..

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    • sister1_rm
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:38am

      Yes! Kiss it!

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    • BetterDays
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:07am

      @Red dawn
      And as a former officer your response would be “with all do respect, have you seen the size of my Mag light sir?”, but perhaps in an unstated, but more impact fully manner, yes?

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    • TitaniumMan
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:03pm

      If any pig tries that crap with me I will smash the phone into pieces right in front of his Nazi a$$.

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  • Romans828
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:34am

    Suggestion to the Blaze when you expand this site: please add a thumbs up/thumbs down feature. Thumbs up to Ghost!

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:46am

      Thanks Romans! :)

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    • Sgt.Crust
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:19am

      Ditto, Ghost you are a wise person!

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    • jackrorabbit
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:27am

      Agreed on that one. Thumbs up or something similar.

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 4:19pm

      @ american soldier .. youre a dope if your phone is lost or stolen youre in a world of trouble, putting that info on there.. Man , and youre worried about a COP getting your info. WOW !!!

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  • Romans828
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:32am

    How did they get the phones??? Why isn’t the ACLU demanding to know how they think this is constitutional rather than just trying to find out what they did with the information??? Three years????

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    • RightUnite
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:44am

      The ACLU is supposedly working on this, but I’m not holding my breath.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 1:36pm

      Romans: “Why isn’t the ACLU demanding to know how they think this is constitutional rather than just trying to find out what they did with the information???”
      —————–

      I honestly believe they have tried. I posted some of the facts the ACLU has gathered regarding the Patriot Act Expansion, but my comment was either deleted or never posted. Speaking of police abuse, we have to contend with Betsy’s Blaze Police on a daily basis. Someone’s free speech is violated on this blog every day , and what is Glenn doing about it? Nothing. I don’t even think he knows.

      Here’s the link:
      http://www.aclu.org/national-security/surveillance-under-usa-patriot-act

      ==> “Three years????”

      It’s going nowhere, as is any other investigation related to Obama and his administration. Guess the ACLU is finally discovering who the real fascists are.

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  • GhostOfJefferson
    Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:31am

    The answer of course is to refuse to give the phone to the cop, and to request a warrant be shown if he demands it further.

    The biggest weapon cops have against us, is that so few of us know our rights. That and far too many of us are cheery happy submissive around Officer Friendly. Be polite, but know your rights, and exercise them.

    Want my phone? Show me the warrant.

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    • BuckOfama
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:37am

      What idiot would hand over their phone to begin with? If you are that stupid you should probally be riding on a short bus……

       
    • MidWestMom
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:37am

      Let ‘em try it….just let ‘em try it – they‘d better have paperwork WITH them to back it up because I’m not waiting around. Bone up on your legal rights folks……this is just the beginning. Blatant disregard of “illegal search & seizure”.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:40am

      Identity theft? Illegal search and seziure. This should be a federal investigation, oh wait, Holder is too busy investigating Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

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    • RightUnite
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:43am

      Agreed! Just say no…..

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    • sissykatz
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:44am

      This can’t possibly be constitutional….. this is ridiculous. If you have committed no crime there can be no reason for them to have the info. If you are arrested for a crime like drugs, it could be used so they can find your contact info. But the way this is stated is stealing………

      Good Morning Blazers, Hope everyone is doing great. Haven’t read for a couple of days and I have missed everyone.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:44am

      Seen this on drudge report yesterday; and it is indeed frightening. This is the ultimate usage of the technology by Big Sister and her thug’s.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:45am

      This is unConstitutional.

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    • MyFreedomIsn'tForSale
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:48am

      First amendment, monitored, stifled and held in contempt
      Second amendment, regulated, taxed and threatened.
      Fourth amendment, drug out behind the building and executed then chucked in a mass grave along with your Sixth, Eighth, Tenth and Fourteenth amendment rights and buried.
      Soon, the time to stand up for Freedom will be here, just be prepared.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:50am

      @BuckOfama
      Easy to say when it’s not you they pulled over. You always do what a police office tells you to do, then settle it in court later, isn’t that what we have always been told?

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:52am

      What are they looking for, calls to Iran and Pakistan? There ARE very large Muslim populations in Michigan. MAybe pictures of buildings, bridges, and power plants?

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    • Sinista MACE
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 9:59am

      Don’t forget to equip your vehicles with cameras and recording devices, the cops HATE that.

      It’s the only weapon we have that we can still use without getting arrested…in most states.

      Better exercise it now, they’re making it illegal to videotape cops.

      USE IT OR LOSE IT TO POLICE STATE ATROPHY!

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    • nosycophant
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:00am

      The ACLU dont care about this dont be fooled by them either.

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    • BetterDays
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:03am

      The day I woke up to the fact that the courts not only allowed the police to lie, cheat, frame, and falsely gain evidence, but encourage them to do so, is the day I put my lawyer on retainer.
      Additionally, I do no acts that should garner the attention of officers of the so called law, but that does not indemnify me against being a target. After all being a Caucasian means I’m in the only legally targetable class, in other words no ACLU or army of televised social advocates dercying fowl play.
      When confronted with requests to search, or question your answer should always be. NO search, even if they present a warrant, as some searches exceed the scope of the warrent and get thrown out because they do. And “I want to call my lawyer.” is the only correct answer to any question or statement from officers.
      If you aren’t already a member I suggest prepaid legal services for representation.

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    • Sgt.Crust
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:05am

      Who really cares! We are going to crash and burn THIS year, by July or shortly thereafter! Votes, LOL, we will not make it to 2012!!!! Open your eyes and smell the napalm in the morning Blazers – you will see the DOW skyrocket now, but by July it will lose over half of its value, but by then it will be too late to prepare! We MIGHT have THREE months to prepare left, and THAT is not a prediction – I GUARANTEE we dive this year…May God Bless you all, and I pity the fools who are thinking this country, make that the world, has a chance to recover!!!! Look at gold $1500/oz and silver at record levels – does that not tell you anything???????????????????? No one is paying our debt, no one!
      Dear LORD,
      Our God in Heaven, I pray to you here for ALL to see. We are sinners, and we repent of our sins. We, as a country have turned our backs on you, we have allowed your grand experiment to be taken over by the Lucifer lovers of everything worldly. There are still those of us who believe in you, who trust in your word, and we ask only to build a WALL of safety around us. Please help us to identify the TRUE PATRIOTS, give us a sign, provide for those who stand tall, true believers in Jesus Christ, in freedom, in liberty. Those of us who believe in Jesus Christ, who died for us on the cross, who shed His precious blood for our sins, await your WORD. The minions of Satan are many, and we, who truly believe are few! If we have to die for our cause, then so be it, but we will fight for you, for what is right, for our families, for our country. When our country fails, help us to rebuild, if THAT is your plan. If not, then take us into your BOSOM, so that we may be with you for Eternity in your Kingdom of Heaven. AMEN.
      Dear Blazers, do yourself a favor, ignore the trolls here, do NOT give them the satisfaction of your response. They agitate, they blaspheme, and they are controlled by Lucifer. If you respond to them, you give THEM satisfaction, and you, just heartburn. Skip their posts, do not even read them, and certainly don’t respond – let them twist in the wind!!!!
      As God is my witness, I love Glenn Beck, Dr Savage, Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, they all speak the truth, as hard as it is to hear. Sometimes they are at odds, but they ALL speak the same truth. Keep the faith, stand for freedom, stand for what is right, stand for your COUNTRY, stand for God! We stand against the world right now – even Soros (the devil himself) is correct – America IS the LAST obstacle to the NWO. If WE THE PEOPLE fall, the world falls, and maybe that is what God wants, to start over?

       
    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:07am

      @Anonymous T. Irrelevant

      “Easy to say when it’s not you they pulled over. You always do what a police office tells you to do, then settle it in court later,”

      No, you have rights and you are advised to exercise them. Unconditional obeying of an officer’s commands is what allows them to get away with things like this. The few times I‘ve been pulled over I’ve refused to cooperate by remaining silent when they go on their 20 questions fishing expeditions, and am none the worse for wear.

      If they don’t have a warrant, and you are not directly suspected to have committed a crime, then you politely refuse. Ultimately, they have to leave you alone, and will.

      “isn’t that what we have always been told?”

      I’ve been told that Santa Claus exists as well, but that doesn’t mean that he does.

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    • poverty.sucks
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:12am

      How do we extract data from Obama’s crackberry?

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    • Cemoto78
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:14am

      Constitution, what constitution? If you haven’t already done so, read the 4th amendment which relates to search ans seizures. Know your rights cause government agents believe they can do whatever they want and when found to be outside the scope of their authority they know most of the citizens can’t afford to hire and pay attorneys to sue.

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    • SLEUTH
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:15am

      they took an oath to uphold the law; they should know the law; they broke the law… and they would just get fired? they should be charged with breaking the law. hey, they wanted the job; no one twisted their arm to become a cop. in fact if a cop brakes the law, there should be a higher penalty.

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    • jackrorabbit
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:23am

      Wow, never thought I would agree with the ACLU. We really are in bizarre times. And Ghost of Jefferson is dead on. We now have to think every time we run into a policeman/politician/potential thief. If the cops have this, I am certain that cyber thieves will soon, or they will find a way to make one. This is why I have a simple cell phone that only has numbers in it, and I may have to delete some of the names that I call often. Kinda sad really.

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:40am

      Now is the time to start standing up and just plain say NO. Some will go to jail, but this is the only way to fight this nonsense. Next, we will work on taxes.

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    • AWAKENEDAWARE
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:41am

      Just go to walmart and spend 8.00 on a “trac phone” and keep it in your glove box. hand that over with your license and registration to the nazi mofos.

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    • lovenfl3
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:44am

      What is going on in this country? How does this even seem reasonable to any sane person? They’ll never get my phone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIMRNUGXxII

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    • DTOM_Jericho (leaving PA)
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:45am

      Forf.

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    • DTOM_Jericho (leaving PA)
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:48am

      Anyone else notice the name/acronym? UFED.. as in, “u f’ed“ as in ”you be f’ed”…

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    • cemerius
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 10:54am

      If, the COPs have it be sure that the criminals do to! Scariest part was they have the capability of scanning the phone without the owner’s knowledge! Sounds like a warrantless wiretap!!!

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    • AzRocks
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 11:03am

      Wow! Arizona can’t ask for legal documentation, but Michigan can download your cell phone????

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    • IronSights
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 11:17am

      ACLU will push this until they get paid off. This will be allowed (it’s for the greater good), and agencies using this DATA will use it to maintain a DATA base on the people AND will profit by selling the DATA to marketing companies. This information will be no more secure than the news paper left on my door step.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 11:31am

      This is the slippery slope we get from Obama’s expansion of the Patriot Act to include common criminals. In a totalitarian state, which is where we are fast headed, if you commit a traffc violation you come under that category.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 11:39am

      Where’s a warrant for this number, NOT a general warrent..

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    • Zeus In A Speedo
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 11:43am

      @buckofama

      Life is hard…but it is harder if you’re stupid!

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    • Goobergregory
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 11:49am

      I cannothe;p but wonder if they would believe me when I tell them that I do not now nor willl I ever OWN a cell phone? What would they do… search the car because they think I am lying to them and witholding information? I live in MI and Ijust cannot see the reason for this.. it is SOOO unconstitutional!

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    • Baron_Doom
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 11:50am

      “…the data extraction can take place “without the owner of the cellphone knowing.”

      So, even if you refused to hand over your cell phone, they can still extract your data remotely?

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    • MOLLYPITCHER
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:08pm

      @ GOHSTOFJEFFERSON
      You are absolutely right. Cops know that many citizens don’t know what their rights are, and they will probably just hand it over. People need to read the constitution to protect themselves. By the way, I’m not saying that cops are all bad, but there are those who will use the public’s ignorance to their advantage.

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    • Professional Infidel
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:34pm

      Right after I hand over my crack pipe!! lol

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    • American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 12:51pm

      When my friend was arrested for a DUI the officer took his cell phone and wallet with him to the jail. The purpose, I assume, was so that he would have his contact list of people to call to bail him out. I know I don‘t memorize anyone’s number anymore. This would be an easy time for them to download all his personal information.

      This is wrong through and through, even if the guy is being arrested. I know I have apps that have my banking information for multiple banks, and a password saver app that stores certain passwords that I can never remember daily. And at that point, the cop would have access to your social, BAM, there goes your identity if the cop isn’t flying straight.

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    • kentjnwa
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 1:19pm

      First of all, why are you in a situation that the police would ever be interested in your cell/smart phone? I’m about as law-abiding as they get, so short of a traffic violation I would never be in an arresting situation. In any case, I would respectfully refuse to turn over my phone to the police, unless they had a legal warrant. I do agree, this is a slippery slope and is a direct violation of the 4th Amendment and needs legal clarity.

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    • ME
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 1:41pm

      If the airports can rape you to make sure you are not a terrorist what moron thinks your phone is safe??? A lot of big talk here but the truth is we will do nothing about it or very few will. Again just look at the airports and you will see the sheepel. Need your papers, now we feel you up, now move along and remember its for your safety. Now go home feeling dirty and talk tough on the internet:)

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    • drphil69
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 1:56pm

      Well I guess the next step is to FORCE all CITIZENS to own a cell phone! Hell, if they can force us to buy medical insurance, why not a cell phone??

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    • mrsmileyface
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 2:24pm

      Thank you Ghost for typing all that I was feeling lazy. Btw I totally agree,

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    • okie mel9188
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 2:30pm

      Amen let them try I will never hand over my cell phone or firearms without paper work from a court

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 2:30pm

      I wouldn’t have known what was going on . but would have asked “why” …. I will be going to Michigan this summer and I will NOT hand over my phone without a search warrant! Sounds like an illegal search to me!

      Forwarding this information to all my Michigan contacts .. just in case they have missed it! Thanks BLAZE!

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    • Larry E
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 2:51pm

      Amen!!!

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    • Cerealface
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 3:15pm

      The report doesn’t say how willingly these people were when asked to see their cell phone. If you have nothing to hide, what does it matter? If you are hiding nude photos of your girlfriend or boyfriend, just say, “it’s going to cost ya.”

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    • nancyhings
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 3:31pm

      a warrant, of course!! good advise GhostofJefferson. thanx!

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    • KOCHLEFFEL
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 3:32pm

      Don’t YOU PEOPLE have anything else to worry about then Cell Phone Data?
      You are loosing your country ,your money and you are no longer # ONE in this world.

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 3:37pm

      Michigan is BROKE and yet they have money for this?

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    • randy
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 3:40pm

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 3:47pm

      I just received this from a friend in Michigan

      ________________________________________________________

      It‘s the legal update telling the MSP that they can’t grab a phone.

      VEHICLE CODE
      Texting while driving
      Effective: July 1, 2010
      Public Act 60 of 2010 added MCL 257.602b to the Michigan Vehicle Code. The new subsection prohibits a person from reading, manually typing, or sending a text message on a wireless 2-way communication device, including a cell phone, that is located in the person’s hand or in the person’s lap while operating a motor vehicle that is moving on a highway or street in this state. Global positioning or navigation systems affixed to motor vehicles are not considered a wireless 2-way communication device for purposes of the subsection.

      The subsection includes exceptions for operator’s reporting traffic crashes, crimes, and other emergencies. Additionally, there is an exception for police officers, law enforcement officials, fire department members (paid and volunteer), and operators of emergency vehicles when using a 2-way communication device to carry out their official duties.

      MCL 257.602b is a primary enforcement law; a violation is a civil infraction punishable by a civil fine.
      Officers are reminded they cannot obtain a search warrant or an investigative subpoena solely for a violation of MCL 257.602b because a violation is a civil infraction. Officers may seek to obtain consent from an individual to examine his or her 2-way communication device; however, absent consent, officers may not lawfully seize an individual’s device and examine the contents.

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    • waggie
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 3:50pm

      Absolutely I would NOT disclose whether or not I had a cell phone and if he asked for my purse I would tell him he better have a d— warrant or he’s not touching my belongings. Of course they could probably put you under suspicion of having drugs or something and then search your belongings anyway…

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    • realindependent
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 4:15pm

      Thats not all new Michigan republicorp governor is doing.

      Love all the constitution loving repubs. Who violate it everyday

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    • BlueStrat
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 4:19pm

      If you want to keep your cellphone from being easily “slurped” by some over-eager jack-boot and don’t mind digging into the phone, simply open the phone, locate the micro-USB connector, and break the connections to pin 2 and pin 3. These are the ‘Data +‘ and ’Data -’ pins. If you’re creative, you might be able to include an internal hidden switch. The phone will still charge normally with the pins disconnected, but will not transfer data through the cable (or a ‘dock’) until pins 2 & 3 are re-connected.

      For many people that don’t connect their phone to a PC or other external device that needs data access to/from their phone, disconnecting the USB data pins won‘t affect the phone’s operation.

      It turns the USB port into just a fancy charger port with no data transfer capabilities. They can connect whatever they want, but the can‘t get what they can’t connect to.

      What are they gonna do at a traffic stop on the side of the road, do a forensic-electronics investigation? No. The cop will think either your phone’s not working right (good cover story…”good luck sir, the stupid thing’s been broke for a week”) or that their fancy new toy has broken down and send it away for maintenance.

      Will they make it illegal to carry a broken phone?

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 4:20pm

      I doubt that this was the new governors idea … these things take time to be put into effect .. this has GRANHOLM all over it .. unless you have proof otherwise? Please show it!

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    • Karzak
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 5:01pm

      Then you get put in the back of te car and left there for an hour or two to teach you a lesson, and of course an extra ticket or two.

      To the pigs you are no different than the criminal. It’s them and everyone else.

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    • BlueStrat
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 6:07pm

      @ Karzak

      “Then you get put in the back of te car and left there for an hour or two to teach you a lesson, and of course an extra ticket or two.”

      No, when they try slurping your phone and it doesn’t work, and they question you, you say “You broke my PHONE with that stupid thing!?!? Are you going to cut my car’s brake lines or come burn my house down next!?!?

      If they’re bothering to slurp your data in the first place, you’re already going to be charged/ticketed or arrested for something whether there’s anything on the phone or not, or if they can access it or not. At the worst, it gives you some misdemeanor charges you can use to bargain a plea with.

      At best, the confusion & embarrassment at the scene might let you walk away and possibly add another disincentive for them to continue or expand this blatantly un-Constitutional breach of 4th Amendment Rights.

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    • mindbender46
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 7:15pm

      Good advice, I just want to add a little suggestion.

      Be polite, that shows you have respect for the uniform. Only a total @zz cop would be angered by your refusal to submit.

      Tell them, “I was advised by a friend of mine who is a fellow officer to say, I do not agree to allow any form of search. I do not surrender any objects.”

      That sends the message you have a friend who is a police officer (I can say that, the rest is up to you)

      If you aren’t friends with at least one officer you should be. It gives you a perspective of what they go through and if you prove to be a responsible citizen they will share valuable info with you and maybe help if you get in a jam.

      Be polite, be respectful. Most cops I know are upright men and women. It only takes one bad apple to leave a bad taste in your mouth.

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    • Redistributor
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 7:46pm

      YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!!! No warrant no phone.

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    • Secret Squirrel
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 8:07pm

      ……..
      Just say no!
      This is the correct answer to all questions at a stop:
      “Officer, am I being detained? If not I’d like to go about my business.”

      Keep repeating that until you are arrested, or released. There is no probable cause to download your cellphone.
      Brown shirts. “Papers please.”

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    • petie3
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 8:08pm

      Technology is what they do behind your back. They can scan your credit card from several feet away. I think they have to attach a cable to download your cellphone. Did you know you have a GPS?
      I have a Nokia which is, I think too primitive for this nonsense. All it does is telephone. I don’t need a cellphone camera, I use a Nikon. I neither need nor want a GPS. I don’t do OnStar, or GPS clones. I could be considered paranoid except I‘m sure they’re after me, and you and anyone else they can entrap, ensnare and engulf.

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    • ThinkDeeper
      Posted on April 20, 2011 at 8:12pm

      This IS is Michigan right? So this is what a Democrat state looks like? And people say Republicans are the stupid ones! Be warned people, this is what an Obamanation is/looks like!!!

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    • JJCon
      Posted on April 21, 2011 at 12:16am

      1) This is a tool that the police should have.

      2) This nonsense about be pulled over by a cop and them using this on you is pure sensationalism by CNet. Even the ACLU acknowledges that there is only 5 of these devices in the state. Which means that no beat-cop will be issued one.

      3) This is an allegation of abuse based on a lack of information showing that there isn’t abuse. A typical liberal view of our police. We shouldn’t be echoing these sentiments. The laws protecting the people from abuse are still in place. If lived in fear of “could have” we wouldn’t have police at all.

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    • Secret Squirrel
      Posted on April 21, 2011 at 3:56pm

      …….
      It’s not stealing if you give it to them.

      Remember, the po-lice are not legally bound to tell you the truth.

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    • The Wizard
      Posted on April 21, 2011 at 4:19pm

      First, the Idiot that would hand over his/her cellphone, is the average American who has been programmed to TRUST the Cops. In reality, Cops are not your friend. They don’t even want to be your friend; they are doing their job [as perceived by themselves in their War of "us against Them" ] You and your Rights are an obstacle.

      Generally, during a Traffic Stop for violations, the Cop cannot demand evidence or search for evidence because the charge is a mere Traffic Violation, not a Crime.

      If the Officer stope you for a violation and during his contact, discovers what he believes is evidence of a crime, the Traffic Stop changes faces to a criminal investigation. With that said, he can now begin to seize things and search, anywhere in the vehicle, including the trunk, but not into a locked briefcase, without a further warrant to do so. In this case, if the cellphone can be shown to potentially harbour evidence related to the crime, like Drug Peddling/Dealing, he may look inside. Now, looking inside has changed to a digital invasion and exploitation of the device.

      This reasoning eminates from the belief by the officer that evidence will be destroyed if you leave in your car. There are exceptions to the circumstances that are dictated by the location of the stop etc…

      We are seeing a trend where our Police, Firemen and Teachers are marching in the streets with Communists, Socialists, and Marxists, who hate our way of life and disrespect our laws and Constitution. This must be stopped!

      A new police officer is so happy to be hired, he/she willlingly places hands on the Bible and swears an oath to support and defend the US Constitution as well as the State Constitution where he is living. Does he mean it? Probably in his momentary dream. As soon as he/she gets to work with the department he begins to be programmed effectively to see The Constitution as an obstacle and your mentioning of it, marks you as a Crazy and or malcontent.

      They attend Seminars to learn techniques and approaches to nullify your resistance or to circumvent your Rights.

      If asked by his agency, the average Cop would dawn the riot gear willingly and come on out to beat you down.

      Learn your rights! Dont tolerate mistreatment and disrespect.
      The Cops are not your friend, they dont even know you.
      They are no longer Servants, they behave like Tyrants.

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    • CharlesMartel
      Posted on April 22, 2011 at 1:51pm

      The problem with this scenario is that in most locations the police can detain you until they get the warrant. So, if you give permission you are free to go sooner.

      If the state police stopped me in such a situation, I’d call the county sheriff and make sure every thing was in view of their dash cameras, then I’d call the lawyer who advertizes “For the people!”

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