Mich. Education Official: Educators, Not Parents Know What‘s Best for Kids’ Education
- Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:31pm by
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Debbie Squires
Editor’s note: we are aware that the videos of the testimony have been removed. Stay tuned for a follow-up story regarding this development.
It‘s a comment that’s causing quite the controversy in Michigan and forcing the question: Who knows whats‘ best for a child’s education?
During a Michigan House Education Committee hearing earlier this month, Debbie Squires, director of the Michigan Elementary and Middle Schools Principals Association, told members that while parents may have have the best intentions, they may not know what‘s best for their children’s education.
“[Educators] are the people who know best about how to serve children, that’s not necessarily true of an individual resident,” Squires said. “I‘m not saying they don’t want the best for their children, but they may not know what actually is best from an education standpoint.”
That prompted a retort from Chairman Thomas McMillin: “Wow, parents don‘t know what’s best for their child…”
Squires responded by saying again that parents might want what’s best for their children, but might not have the capability to know.
Here are Squires comments, which came during a discussion about a new school choice program that would allow more parents to send their kids to charter schools, especially those online:
Afterward, MLive’s Dave Murray caught up with McMillin, who was still upset about the exchange.
“I‘m surprised I didn’t lose it when she said that,” McMillin told Murray. “They think they know what’s better for children than their own parents, and that’s what I find upsetting.”
Squires’s comment, however, might be defensible if viewed on a macro level. She did seem to be initially referring to parent involvement in district decision, hence her reference to voting for appropriate school board members. But that might be too generous considering her later clarifications.
Still, not everyone is upset. One MLive reader believes educators are experts in their field and should be treated as such:
“Really, he is outraged at that statement? That statement is, in the vast majority of cases, absolutely true. So when Mr. McMillin’s kids are sick, does he treat them himself, or go to a doctor? How about when his car breaks down, does he take it to a mechanic?
“This is why the inner city schools, not the districts like he resides in, are in so much trouble, the parents of many of these kids don’t know how to take care of themselves, let alone their children.”
What do you think? Is Squires way off base? Or, did she choose poor words but is correct on a macro level?
(H/T: Fox Nation)
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Comments (213)
svan71
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:02pmBasically parents who graduated from a public school education are having kids and they are too stupid to know whats good for them and in some cases I agree.
Report Post »Raider1
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:12pmWelcome to AMERITOPIA !!! Does anyone still think indoctrination isnt happening to our children?….anyone?
Report Post »pavepaws
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:13pmHowever, letting a government entity take over the raising of children is tragic at best. Nothing like getting them while they’re young. I think China and Russia was good at this.
Report Post »Banner67
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:14pmActually, I agree with her also. HOWEVER, I don’t agree with how some teachers use this as a way to push a political agenda. teach them reading, writing, arithmetic, but don’t get into teaching them social policies.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:25pmMy how liberal…“individual resident” instead of parents now? It’s kind of like “embryo” or “blastocyst” instead of baby. The left loves it’s eurphemisms..it makes killing and usurping a little easier on whatever conscience any of them may have left. And let’s take a moment to remember..the left is assaulting conscience also. Seriously….how much more proof do you need of the left’s love affair with the state telling you what to do with every part of your life?
Report Post »Kaoscontrol
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:31pmWhat a bunch of elitist excrement! So what if she was the president of the PTA…I don’t believe anyone with that HAIR-DOO knows anything. My children have been homeschooling (online curriculum) for several years and they always out score the local districts when tested by the state. I would hate to see them dumbed down by being forced into the inferior public education system.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:38pmHEY !
Let’s just hand our post-birth fetal tissue over to the state as soon as they manage to escape their evil Mother’s womb! We can just YANK it from their parents’ arms (since we all know parents will cling to their fetal tissue, like they do to their God and their guns). Then, we can raise it the way it is SUPPOSED to be raised. We can feed it only government approved food, in government approved quantities, at government approved times. Followed by government forced exercise.
We can force the maturing, post-gestational tissue to learn government approved propaganda – er, I meant knowledge, and force them to repeat their allegiance to science, and forbid anyone to teach them anything about God. We can do all this by keeping them in sanitized rubber rooms.
Then, when they have reached the age of 18, we release them onto the streets, as “people!”
THERE YOU GO !
Problems solved !
Report Post »EndTheFedNOW
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:42pmIf you are stupid enough to keep your kids in the public brainwashing school (which is what they are) than we are all in deep trouble.
Report Post »pavepaws
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:45pmThis is her before the transformation. http://youtu.be/w8vYzXAWcfg
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:58pmThat tells you alot about the lousy teachers this country has.. if we are so damn dumb then its because of the crappy teachers we had. I know that at almost 60 I wasn’t taught the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I learned more fromwatching Glenn Beck about the history of our country and its founders than I ever did any teacher. Its time to shut these people DOWN! I just want to know if the parents are going to take this sitting down??? God help us!
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 6:01pmWow, we sure have come a long way in America. Many would argue that we have lost our ability to use the Bible. I will argue that we also lost our ability to use the good old fashioned Websters Dictionary. Funny how just today I ran across the 1828 version, and I have used this same definition on numberous posts and on facebook. It just keeps on being useful, and is useful here. check out the part about education. Get a dictionary for these politician, libs, progressives, and democrats.
From the 1828 Websters Dictionary
marriage
MAR’RIAGE, n. [L.mas, maris.] The act of uniting a man and woman for life; wedlock; the legal union of a man and woman for life. Marriage is a contract both civil and religious, by which the parties engage to live together in mutual affection and fidelity, till death shall separate them. Marriage was instituted by God himself for the purpose of preventing the promiscuous intercourse of the sexes, for promoting domestic felicity,and for securing the maintenance and education of children.
Marriage is honorable in all and the bed undefiled. Heb.13.
1. A feast made on the occasion of a marriage.
The kingdom of heaven is like a certain king, who made a marriage for his son. Matt.22.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 6:11pmparent
PA’RENT, n. [L. parens, from pario, to produce or bring forth. The regular participle of pario is pariens,and parens is the regular participle of pareo, to appear.]
1. A father or mother; he or she that produces young. The duties of parents to their children are to maintain, protect and educate them.
When parents are wanting in authority, children are wanting in duty.
2. That which produces; cause; source.
Idleness is the parent of vice.
Regular industry is the parent of sobriety.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 6:16pmGet the FED out of the education business! Dissolve the NEA! Hire & fire teachers based on PERFORMANCE not “tenure”!
Our entire public education system has rotted to the core with communist stupidity…
quicker
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 6:20pmFolks,it`s high time to take these yahoos out behind the woodshed and give them some old time education.
Report Post »restorehope
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 6:44pmOur education system needs to be fixed in many ways. I was driving past the elementary school here in my town this morning and noticed that the large American flag was flying upside down. So I decided to return to the school to check it out. A member of the staff walked into the building with me, but he did not seem to care about the flag flying so disrespectfully and just walked down the hallway away from me. When I told the secretary in the office about the flag, she said there were two students who regularly hang the flag each morning. She said they would fix it immediately, which they were already doing by the time I got back to my car. Unfortunately, they thought it was very funny and were having a good time hauling it down.
Has our generation failed to teach the next generation what the flag represents? Thousands and thousands of brave men and women have died for that flag and the country which it honors. Why aren’t these young students more sensitive and aware of those sacrifices? To dishonor the flag is to dishonor those who made the ultimate sacrifice for America.
We need to do a better job in educating our children about not only what the flag stands for, but also how to treat it with the proper respect. It was fairly obvious that those two students did not have a clue about flag etiquette. Plus many parents and citizens drove past and ignored how it was flying. It does not bode well for America if this next generation takes no pride in our count
Report Post »stage9
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:36pmWell, you have to admit that we ARE all kind of stupid because we insist on allowing Public Schools to continue in the first place.
Report Post »Sigh Phi
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 8:47pmWhere do you think the “teachers” graduated from?
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:21pm“education” is a general term… you could be “educated” in math but not other studies…
you could be taught that our rights come from government and other people with fancy hats. that doesn’t mean you are “educated” by any means. the public education system taught people the world was flat, in america we taught people that blacks were less than whites in school, etc… don’t be so naive…
so no, there is only 1 way to give a child a “proper” education and that is to teach the child the basics and to how to be resourceful for themselves (find information). once they can do that, they can do anything. taking your children to the library is a wonderous thing. physical books > sifting through miles of garbage online. both are good, don’t get me wrong… but the library does wonders…
people today do not care to learn anything new. i’ve heard it a billion+ times in the IT industry…
Report Post »Me: “I can show you how to..”
Them (interrupting me): “I don’t care how to fix it as long as it is working now.”
seldomscene
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:24pmThe blame lies with those who vote those communists in.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:33pmDebbie Squires looks like a Zombie… someone call the CDC quick!
Report Post »grassroots
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:52pmEducators know best? Really? My granddughter has comprehension problems she is in the 8th grade. Her teacher knows this. Recently my daughter & her husband helped their daughter study for the test every day for a week. My granddaughter failed the test and her teacher put a note on her paper stating “well I can see you didn’t study” these are the kind of idiot teachers whom are suppose to be teaching our children. My other two grandchildren are in honors class where as my granddaughter struggles and the teacher just kicks her when she is down instead of trying to help her.
Report Post »rc30
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:08pmI moved to Texas from Flint MI in Feb of 09. One big reason I moved is my sons school. He came home and told me his teacher was talking about Marxs and how great he was. His ideals was going to make the world a better place. Well I go to school with son next day. Talk to teacher was told if I don’t like it to bad. So now I go and talk to the marxest principal. Same thing for the most part. Now I live in Texas and not because I love the desert. I think if it all goes bad Texas will be the last hope for the USA. I was in front of Glenn Beck on that one.
Report Post »midwesthippie
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:35pm..what in the h&ll is that thing in the picture at the top of the page?…is this the wooly mammoth story? i’m confused…
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:42pm“What it is, that it is, we be talk’n bout?”
True story: My best friend is an 80 year old Nuclear Physicist, he has a daughter that is brilliant. Back in the 1960′s while in 8th grade (and a straight A student) she was failing English. He could not understand it. She said that she just could not understand her teacher. So he called the school Principle for a meeting. They talked for a while and the teacher was called in. She walked in and said, and I quote, “What it is, that it is, we be talk’n bout?” My friend asked that the teacher leave, told the Principal that his daughter would be a different English class the next day and left. She went back to getting an A’s in English.
This has been going on for a long time. I finally understand why I hated school. My 10th grade English teacher made us read a book titled, “A Modest Proposal”. It was about cooking and eating Human Babies to end over population and starvation in the future. I told my parents but, they were too busy trying to make ends meet. The Guidance Counselor told me it was for my own good.
I thought I was stupid at the time but discovered later that I was just not a 1960′s socialist, commie Marxist radical willing to have my teenage mind bent to the will of sicko’s. Today I’m proud to have received a D in her class. I should have received an F but, she didn’t want to have me back in her class the next year.
Report Post »Marine 1
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:50pmMy mother was an English teacher in New Mexico for 37 years and she would have never have said what this woman said. My mother was divorced and an excellent role model. She managed to raise three kids by herself on a teacher‘s salary which wasn’t much. The three of us obtained a good education and were professionals in our own right. We turned out pretty good and not because of the teachers in our lives but because of the Christian values and hard work ethic our mother taught us. Working on my grandfather’s ranch certainly built character in me.
The parents and the extended family should be the best role models for children. Of course, if parents fail to teach their children correct principles, morals and such then the results are often what we see being manifested in our society today.
This woman is nuts! The various public education systems in this country are putting out children who can’t do math, read, write or know the basic English language. They are also taught a myriad of “social skills” that have turned our society into garbage. Being PC seems to be the order of the day. Competition amongst students has turned into an program where everyone wins regardless of ability. Competition is a good thing and there should be winners and losers.
This sure sounds like communism to me and I want no part of it. People, our nation and society are falling apart at the seams because of people just like Debbie Squires.
I’ll pass on her idea of brainwashing. Thanks,
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 11:55pmDumb union teachers dumbing down our kids….Education should be done by the state and county level….Keep it local!!!!
Report Post »Flag-Man
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 12:25amKid can’t read and the educators say they know what is best.
Report Post »Maybe they do, they just don’t know how to teach it.
NeoFan
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 12:32amIf your kids are in a government school then you are part of the problem.
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 6:30amHey Lady! Yeah– the one who looks like she doesn‘t sleep nights because of all the problems she must be having with her student’s “stupid” parents….
Report Post »The public school system wasn’t born yesterday! If it’s made up of a bunch of experts who know what they are doing, today’s parents should have been well educated enough to be able to judge.
Either the system hasn’t done its job well enough, leaving behind too many stupid parents,
or it has done its job– and parents are in a position to judge. You lose either way, sleepless lady with bad hair. Get a substitute for a few days and go get some sleep.
USAF2003
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 7:40am@TomFerrari
Report Post »One of the best post I’ve ever read on here!! Nice Job!
000degrees
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 8:19amA lack of responsibility and accountability leads directly to an opening for an “agency” to step in and convince some that it is in the child’s best interest. Don’t tell the parents who are always too busy to be parents that a lot of the blame belong to them, would want to hurt anyone’s feelings…
Report Post »Rodder35
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 10:48amEducation just like the kids sex education they recieved in Californication, that‘s one educator I wouldn’t want telling my kids what’s best !!!
Report Post »KevINtampa
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 11:34am“This is why the inner city schools, not the districts like he resides in, are in so much trouble, the parents of many of these kids don’t know how to take care of themselves, let alone their children.”
I remember either Sharpton or Jackson (might have been both in the past) saying that the terms “urban” and “inner city” were code words racists use to describe blacks and minorities with out having to directly say blacks and minorities. So by those standards, this lady just said, “Blacks and minorities don’t know how to take care of themselves, let alone their children.”
And yet, the conservatives, who believe, that every individual, no matter if they are in the inner city, suburb, or country, that is capable of cognitive thought and unimpeded by major physical defects, is independent and deserves the responsibility of liberty in their pursuit of happiness, are commonly called the racists; and people actually buy into that dog and pony show.
When will individuals realize their independence and they need not rely on ANY government program, INCLUDING government education facilities?
American citizens are a lot of things. But we are NOT independent. We need to stop celebrating the 4th of July until we end all government dependency programs and subsidies. We don‘t deserve to celebrate independence day while we live largely dependent off the King’s tit.
In other news, Blaze, your comment section format is terrible.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 12:59pmThe teachers are the experts! Really? They and their cohorts in crime gave us the Look Say method of reading in place of Phonics – the prime reason that many, many Americans can not read. Not opinion – fact! In addition people in charge of our educational system continue to both plea fro and pour more money into a failed educational system. Stupidity of the highest order.
More info? Situational Ethics and Values Clarification proposed and adopted through the NEA and championed by our Department of Education have caused more damage to the value system in our young people, and believe it or not, laid the ground work for such shootings as Columbine and Arkansas, etc. To say that educators, at the least the brand that we have now, know better about what is good educationally for our children, either in methodology or content, than good parents, is beyond the realm of absurdity into frigging anarchy.
Served on the national board of CEAI ( Christian Educators of Association International ) for over ten years. The NEA (National Education Association), like the US Department of Education need to be thrown out of any intrusion into our educational system, which needs drastically revised. All this teaching of Multi-culturalism and touchy-feely bull crap has taken the place of reading, writing, mathematics and sciences to where we have plummeted dramatically and tragically on the world scene. Remember the term, dumber than a Pollock? A joke, but we have fallen to Poland’s rank.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 1:04pmThe problem with most educators is the same as the problem with most other liberals – they think that they know everything, and this could not be further from the truth. In fact the opposite could be said, for they are blatantly ignorant and very foolish. Furthermore our children suffer immensely from the radicalized, frigged up policies, programs, and ideologies that are promoted and imposed in the schools and colleges of America. Grievous indeed!
Report Post »mkurbo
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 2:45pmDebbie Squires should be fired for that comment alone – period. This government intervention business is insane and out of control…
Report Post »flyoverbob
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:00pmAnother elitist ,and this one looks like she is on too many meds to be teaching.
Report Post »This is what they were taught folks,they are above you and should make these decisions for you.
You are in the wrong country lady,in this country parents are allowed to make these decisions.And the point is we are allowed to make them even if we are wrong.Why is that you might ask?IT’S BECAUSE WE ARE PAYING FOR IT AND THIS IS STILL THE U.S.OF FRIGGIN A.
I don’t beleive you should take your kids out of public schools,I beleive we need to get them back in the hands of the local citizenswho actually work a real job and have not lived off the gov tit their entire life.
One other point I will bet if she is head of the PTA she is being paid for it.
Sigh Phi
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:40pmThey teach your kids that they are above you, the parents, and should make the decisions NOW; Parents believe in “superstitious and old fashioned” things like the Bible, and parental rights.
Report Post »Next, it’ll be the “Report on Your Parents” social engineering pogram. This won’t be the U.S. of friggin‘ A for long if we don’t spare our kids the 12 year sewer of left wing “education”. I homeschooled my youngest three because of these people and their lunacy.
MTNative
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:58pmLet me interpret what she just said.
Report Post »The NEA does not want any competition. We know we suck, and therefore parents want to have another option, but we know it is better for us if there is no choice other than public education. If we give parents the choice of what to do with public education funds for their children we wouldn’t be able to compete because we waste money in great amounts for the sake of indoctrinating your children, and the private sector or charter schools would kick our butts.
kentuckypatriot
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:31pmVery good analogy. Well said!
Report Post »KathleenElsie
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 9:04amI have no respect for the teachers that hide behind the NEA or any other union.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 2:15pmTrue, to the point, very unfortunate, and needs to be challenged and changed.
Report Post »Cavallo
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:57pmMore fascist autocratic crap. “The State knows better than you, you must give your children to the State because the State and their employees know and care more about your children than you. Bow before the State, ignorant rube! If you refuse we have ways of forcing you to kneel, and we will kidnap your children and reeducate them.”
Report Post »2theADDLED
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:41pmWhy are the kids graduating school don‘t know how to do math without a calculator or know how to spell a word other than LOL or LMFAO I would say you are doing a wonderful job for the students who can’t even fill out a job application. We then have to send them to college to learn what they should have learned in high schools and by this time they are fooled into thinking I have a college degree now so I should now be entitled to a job but still lack the logic and critical thinking needed to work with others and succeed in life. Yes I say the teachers know what is best for the children all the while hiding behind tenure to protect you from the job you are obviously not qualified to hold.
Report Post »Arc
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:56pmI WILL NOT trash education and I WILL NOT CLAIM to be a teacher, but, If the TEACHERS UNIONS are going to expect me to COMPLETELY turnover to them the responsibility of educating our children without CHECKS & BALANCES, they are wayyyy off base.
The same system that educated our current governmental LEADERSHIP???? also wants to eliminate parents from being involved in their children’s education. This is the same system that gave us VAN JONES, BILL AYERS, BERNADINE DOHRN-AYERS, NOAM CHOMSKY, ANITA DUNN, VALERIE JARRETT, The Dynamic Duo FOX & PIVEN, SAUL ALINSKY, WARD CHURCHILL, JANE FONDA & TOM HAYDEN(SDS) ANTHONY WEINER, MAXINE WATERS, JEREMIAH WRIGHT, JIM WALLIS, CHARLIE RANGEL,…………no FREE REIN on EDUCATION!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Sigh Phi
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:46pmYou don’t have to trash education, they already have. I wouldn’t claim to be one of these under-educated frauds either. They expect you to COMPLETELY turnover to them the responsibility of educating our children because they want the check and the pension and the “sheeple” want the taxpayer funded child kennel for 9 hours a day.
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:56pmOne ugly arrogant liberal piece of crap
Hope the locals take care of this garbage.
This is just so typical of the liberal socialist BS
Enough already – off with their head this November
Report Post »bhohater
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:46pmI was just about to mention how ugly that broad is. If those bags under her eyes were filled with gold she could retire. Looks like she has permanent PMS, glad I don’t have to look at that when I wake up mornings.
Report Post »Sigh Phi
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 9:50pmOne ugly arrogant liberal piece of crap > She’s representative of the entire boatload.
Hope the locals take care of this garbage. > If the locals cared she wouldn’t be there in the first place.
This is just so typical of the liberal socialist BS > It’s going to get worse, and the children will be the biggest victims.
Enough already – off with their head this November > Ron Paul > DELETE the Department of “Not Education”.
Report Post »dhb1ibo
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:56pm“Really, he is outraged at that statement? That statement is, in the vast majority of cases, absolutely true. So when Mr. McMillin’s kids are sick, does he treat them himself, or go to a doctor? How about when his car breaks down, does he take it to a mechanic?
When you take your kids to the doctor and he wants to put leaches on them and drill holes in their heads to let the demons out you go elsewhere. When you go to the mechanic when your headlight is burned out and he tells you, you need a new engine you go elsewhere. Should it be any different with schools?
Report Post »MTNative
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:09pmWell said. Since there is no other option, we don’t know really how good or bad the school is. Give them some competition, and we will see who wins.
Report Post »baclava
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:27pmnot sure the point was to allow teachers to abuse students, but that teacher are (arguably) better armed to determine how a child might learn best as well as what they should learn given the current state of the subject. I assume that’s what they study in undergrad, grad school, and ongoing education classes.
It’s difficult for me to conceive how we can expect public servants and private service providers to a) be responsible and take ownership and b) be competent in their specialized niche while simultaneously holding the assumption that our own opinions are somehow always as valid or more so than theirs.
You have to strike a balance and give up some of the power. No one says you should allow a doctor to provide medical care contrary to established medical guidelines, but on balance, a patient is more likely be a poorer doctor than their doctor.
In the same way, no one is saying you should blindly allow a teacher to do something that is obviously not established education policy. But again, on balance, parents are likely to be poorer teachers than, well, teachers.
Report Post »JediKnight
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 6:08pmAlternatively, do you take your kid to the doctor every time they get a slight fever or catch a cold? I don’t. Do you take your car to a mechanic when a headlight burns out? Again, I don’t.
The doctor is there for when the otc medication isn’t working. The mechanic is there for when you don’t have the equipment to do the work yourself.
Report Post »sndrman
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:56pmwow there is no pretension left period…. they are out in the open and we are see them first hand and man oh man are they emboldened. to blatantly say such things. to actually think that and say that…..my
Report Post »GOD where have we gone? what have we done?why were we so asleep?the progressives were wide awake and “progressing” our guys were sleeping and still are. (r) play along to get along (d) play to win.. thats the difference.
democritusoilder267
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:53pmShe looks like the Wicked Witch. Why do unions and government feel they need to control by any means?
Report Post »SREGN
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:52pmMore than half of the so-called professional educators my kids had in public school couldn’t even spell, as evidenced by the notes and e-mails we received from them. No, this is all about teacher union control of education. Our children are just their pawns.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 7:28pmI remember years ago the NEA was asked about teaching standards and how teachers (even then it was so bad they were graduating students who couldn’t even read) were failing students. Their response was that the day students paid union dues was the day they’d care about teaching standards.
Report Post »Dolfenn24
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:50pmMan,that thing looks like Gargamel from the Smurfs.Just add some hair and there you have it.
Report Post »Mike N
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:49pmI am at odds with plenty of the left-slanted lessons my child brings home from school, but let’s at least give her a little credit . . . she did say “they may not know”, rather than “they do not know”.
Everyone’s different. There are those of us who want minimal interference, those who know they need a little help and ask for it, and those who desperately need help and have no clue that they need it.
The real issue is how to get through to the latter without creating a mandatory policy that penalizes those of us who are already willing and able to make the right choices.
Report Post »Imjetta
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:51pmThe point is, she’s planted a seed of doubt; every parent is inherently gifted to know what their child needs–I’m talking good, honest, decent parents, not the crack heads pumping out babies for the welfare money. God gives us these children, because they need what we know. The Dept of Ed is unconstitutional from the get go, and the Marxist agenda invovles separating children from their parents to indoctrinate them. Why do you think they want to start mandatory pre-school? Not enough kids go to HeadStart, they don’t have all the masses children yet. You get a young woman who made some mistakes, but honestly wants to do right by her child, and she hears this comment, she will begin to doubt herself and her ability to raise her child to be an upstanding adult. All it takes is a little seed.
Report Post »Southern Christian
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:47pmWhen will I wake up and find out this nightmare is over. Now Obama says failing to raise taxes is a form of government spending. I would agree with this lady that Obama likely does not know what is best for children because he’s obviously insane.
Report Post »Daniel
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:47pmTypical liberal demagoguery. Always the government knows better, but what has happened to our education system since the government got involved? Gone from the best education system in the world to the most expensive babysitter service in the world. And these liberal fools keep demanding more and more money. When all the money is gone and there is nowhere to get more, then all these liberal entitlements are going to crash and burn. Of course the liberals will all chime in and say its not their fault. Typical liberal BS!
Report Post »andync77
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:47pmMy 7 month old will never see the inside of a public school. I will work day and night to keep him out of that environment. These people are just evil.
Report Post »MTNative
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:47pmIf teachers of public education actually knew how to do math or science, or reading or writing, I might consider them expert. Since they can’t do any of the things I just mentioned better than the average person, they are simple a wage earner for child control. Until the schools of education at the university level are brought up to par, we will continue to have crappy public education. Until we are given a choice as to where we can use the taxpayer money to educate our children, the schools of education will remain crappy. Forget liberal propaganda for a moment and just think of the quality of education. An education degree is about the most worthless, easy to get degree there is, and the benefits are enormous. We must take back this part of the government.
Report Post »watashbuddyfriend
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:47pmWell, now, let‘s see if ’Educators, Not Parents Know What‘s Best for Kids!’ As long as what is being taught is in keeping with sound, Christian values, which will lead the student to being able to gain an outstanding head of knowledge, etc., yes.
Report Post »IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:46pmThen what does teachers need unions for when they are know it all
Report Post »Dougral Supports Israel
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:44pmI think Squires is correct in a certain context but in total she is off-base. In many cases an individual teacher will know more than most parents in their subject matter. A good parent would recognize this and not interfere with math education for example. I don’t accept a blanket statement that educators know best however because of all the liberal values they try to shovel down kids throats in schools these days. In the areas of values and morality, I would put my faith in the parent most times.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:50pmThe proof is in the pudding, How many kids make it through the education system not knowing how to read, write? Apparently the educators don’t know how to educate either.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:55pmEverybody makes the wrong argument. Who knows better is not the issue. The issue is who has the right to decide. The left loves to lead us off into these complicated arguments and avoid the real issue.
If you feel your child‘s educators know more about what’s best then ask for their advice. You have the right to accept or reject that advice.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:43pmExcuse me? Come say that to my face, Ms Squires, I dare you!
Report Post »MAJORMINOR
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:50pmIt appears that Ms Squires is in need of a professional hairdresser as she is not capable of doing it correctly herself.
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:40pmif you still have your children in public schools…get them the heII out now.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:47pm3 have graduated, one is still in, one is homeschooled. Honestly, it took a while for us to find a school where the parents have a lot of pull but we found one. The teachers are 99% conservative and at least the ones my kid’s have had watch Beck. Last year my son’s graduation gift from his math teacher was a pocket Constitution, if that tells you anything.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:55pmBTW it is a public school (in Texas)
Report Post »MAJORMINOR
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:05pmMs Squires is correct in that parents need to vote by doing everything possible to get their children into private schools where that can get an education and learn HOW to think…not WHAT to think. We sacrificed to get our children into a private school during their formative years. We now have two extraordinary citizens that can think for themselves.
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:24pmAm glad you and yours found some true educators…
know it/was difficult , but dam well worth the effort.\
Intelligent , Free Americans.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 5:37pmTwo/3 of mine who have graduated chose to enlist despite being admitted to ivy league schools for college, not for financial reasons either. They are also productive people and have had their past employers calling me and asking us to have more kids.
This is in part due to the fact that we were able to choose which public schools they went to (within district). But mostly it is parenting. Some of the biggest useless brats I ever met was when I was in prep-school. Parents are the difference. Honestly, we looked at enrolling in private schools but they were no better than the public schools(we have good public grade schools) the high schools are good, the middle schools stink (thus the one who is now being homeschooled). I think everyone needs to take a hard look at their own situation and decide.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:38pmParents be aware this is gonna be knocking @ your door soon .
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:38pmTranslated: Parents are not capable of turning their kids into the mindless, little Marxist drones, that the public education system has become so good at doing?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 10:38pmBest translation yet TxPilot…
Report Post »FlatFoot
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:37pmAnd this is only PRE-SCHOOL. Home School your children. Or, send them to a private school if you can afford it.
Bottom line… do everything you possibly can to keep the Government from getting their claws into your children from the start. They‘re not even old enough for Kindergarten and they’re already being subjected to Government brainwashing. The Government wants complete control of our children’s Minds and their Bodies. The Government whittles away our parental rights and our parental hold on our children a little more and a little more, bit by bit, as each year goes by. The Government will battle you for control of your children using laws and rules that usurp your parental authority and your parental rights so that they, the Government, can make your children what they, the Government, deems they should be. Dare to contradict or lock horns with the Government and you shall be prosecuted. You might even lose custody of your children to the Government. It is a one-sided battle and the deck is already heavily stacked against you. The only way to prevent it is to not hand the children over. Hand your children over to the Government to do as the Government sees fit to do with your children and you will regret it to your dying day. It must be stopped now before today’s children become tomorrows parents and hand your grand-children, their children, over to the Government as they were trained to do starting the day you put your children in the care of the Government.
Report Post »carpee
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:34pmi was gonna watch the video…then i saw what she looked like
Report Post »Whatdoesntkillyou
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:42pm“You took the words right out of my mouth” – Meatloaf
Report Post »andync77
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 4:48pmLol!!!
Report Post »TexBork
Posted on February 15, 2012 at 1:43pmcarpee, You know, I looked again and the look of that guy(?) did sort of make me want to offer up some sun-baked cut bait. Can you imagine that face fighting with a seagull for food at the dumpster of a fish canning plant? Geez… No wait, I think I saw that person on the “Thriller” video, but I thought it was just a typical extra in make-up and an ugly suit
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