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Mich. ‘Feral Swine’ Farmer Calls for Resignation of DNR Officials and Others

Farmer Mark Baker was on Doc Thompson‘s radio show today and he has a message he hopes will shake those in Michigan’s state capital. It is: “We’re not letting up. We’re not letting our family farms go.”

If you’re wondering what Baker, who runs the farm Bakers Green Acres in Michigan, is referring to, he’s talking with Thompson – a man whose voice you may recognize as a fill-in for Glenn Beck at times – about the recent enactment of the “feral swine” ban within the state. As of April 1, those in Michigan raising certain species of pigs deemed non-native for meat or for sport hunting were required to have disposed of their livestock, according to the Invasive Species Order passed in 2010.

(Related: Feral fight: Family battles Mich. over ban that will kill livestock and livelihood)

On the show, Baker calls for Michigan Department of Natural Resources and the Environment officials to resign and also for the Invasive Species Order to be canceled. He says, “I want it done by the end of the week.”

Mich. Farmer Mark Baker Calls for Resignation of DNR Director and Others Over Feral Swine Ban

Characteristics of non-native, "feral" swine. (Image: MDNR)

The DNR instituted the ban on the pigs in the first place citing crop and environmental damage and their ability to carry disease. Baker states the DNR has provided little evidence as to the extreme invasive nature of the species that the department would have some believe. Baker alludes to the DNR stating about 8,000 feral swine are within the state, but DNR’s website actually estimates there are between 2,000 to 3,000. Although, it does consider them to have “prolific breeding practices.”

Baker acknowledges that feral animals can be destructive to the environment, but he believes if feral pigs were really a problem within the state, more evidence of their damage would be seen. He also brings up the destructive nature of deer. “I don’t hear the DNR saying we need to do away with deer, and I mean everyone knows how much damage they do.”

As of right now, the DNR is continuing to conduct “voluntary” inspections of farms that previously had the now banned swine. Last week, we reported some farmers felt their rights were violated over “armed raids” conducted on their property to search for the hogs. The Detroit News recently reported on one of these inspections and the events that followed:

“They were heritage pigs,” said [owner of Deer Tracks Ranch Dave] Tuxbury, 59. “They were black, hybrid Duroc pigs, and a better-tasting animal. The DNR sent me notification that I had to kill all my livestock. If they found any on my property, they were going to arrest me as a felon.”

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A judge last week, however, ruled on a DNR lawsuit, saying a ranch in Cheboygan County could allow paid hunts to kill off its remaining animals but could buy no more feral swine. The DNR can also conduct an inspection in another month.

According to the DNR, the visits are necessary to stop the spread of the Russian/Eurasian hogs that went feral after escaping the preserves and farms.

Tuxbury, who said he was unsure what type of pig was bred with his Durocs, made inspectors from the DNR get a search warrant. The DNR and Tuxbury said the inspection was cordial.

“We searched his property and found no prohibited swine,” DNR spokesman Ed Golder said. “There is a lot of distorted information going around out there. There was no raid, no SWAT gear. We haven’t invaded one farm or killed one animal.

(Related: Report: Mich. DNR stages ‘armed raids’ to enforce ‘feral swine’ ban)

The DNR recently released a statement saying there were no raids nor did they violate any constitutional rights in their conducting of farm inspections.

Mich. Farmer Mark Baker Calls for Resignation of DNR Director and Others Over Feral Swine Ban

Piglets of banned species have striped coats. (Photo: Wikimedia)

Baker ponders in the radio show, “I wonder if there is a higher entity here that wants to see family farms shut down, because if you can control the food, you can control the people.” Some speculation as to who this could be has included the larger corporate pork industry.

It should be noted that while Michigan was the first to begin enforcing legislation against feral swine, other states have considered similar measures as well. The U.S. Department of Agriculture also estimates the feral swine population is about 4 million in the 39 states in which they’ve been spotted.

Listen to the short radio clip for all of Baker’s interview:

Learn more about the feral swine ban in Michigan here.

Comments (127)

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  • EP46
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:59am

    The purpose is to destroy …through regulations…all family farms. The government has to destroy these private holdings in order to set up the COLLECTIVE farms that will be needed to feed the COLLECTIVE masses who work to support the RULING CLASS who will take over once our FREEDOM is taken away. The only question is…do we hand it over ? or do we defend our nation?

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    • kentuckypatriot
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 6:08am

      HMMMM…. that’s a tough one. ( Thinking while drinking my first cup of Joe )…
      I’ll vote for saving the country and getting rid of the commie bastards.
      Have a great day :)

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    • thunder4570
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:11am

      It goes to prove how stupid gov officals are…. feral pigs by definition is one that is wild, if they are penned up they are no longer wild! if a domestic hog escapes from his pen…no matter what breed they are they now are considered feral! in other words every hog in mich could become feral

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    • disenlightened
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:56am

      EP46 – You’re right, it’s all about destroying the family farm, government takeovers and setting up the collectives. We see it in all the new regulations just proposed that would prevent the children of farmers and ranchers from working on the farms and ranches, and not learning the skills to take the farm or ranch over from their parents someday. They would force family farms and ranches to hire outside labor, which would raise insurance costs, cut profits and allow the IRS and Department of Labor onto the property to “protect” these new workers – lawsuits. It would make the cost of doing business too high and run the farmers and ranchers out of business.

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    • denispaul
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:10am

      Hand it over you ain’t doing sh…t.

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    • MadinIllinois
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:13am

      IF YOU CAN CONTROL THE FOOD – YOU CAN CONTROL THE PEOPLE!! We’re at war people – against those in our own government who feel that capitalism does not work, however, communist/socialism does – and – the finger is pointing at the Obummer administration -

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    • concho
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:18am

      EP46, I love your over the top intelligent, knowledgeable comments, so right on, so horrible, so Nazi Germany, so Hitler.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:30am

      People have no idea what its like to live under a dictator/King as our founders knew all to well. We will go back to this system if we fail to recognize the cage being built around us with each passing day.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:31am

      :Let us remember, this is not the federal government stepping in, it is the state government.

      I am not sold either way on this one. I do know the diseas that this pigs carry, and the damage they cause to other livestock, wild game, and crops.

      The good people of Michigan have a vote, and they can handle this one.

      Just remember that us conservatives want more power being shifted to the state, and not the federal government. This is state government doing this.

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    • AppleAnnie
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:22am

      Disenlightened not only is the gov trying to destroy farms(ers) children from working on the farms with family. The gov wants to ban 4H and FFA clubs. Imagine that.

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    • hucksqr
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:45am

      Ranger, you‘re right that it’s a State government. But a State government cannot violate your Natural Rights anymore than a federal government can. Hrmmmm, maybe a better choice of words is “should not”. Those pigs are private property, on private land, and it cannot be proven that they have damaged other people’s private property. It is a gross violation of one of our most basic Natural Human Rights, the right to be secure in our property, and needs to be resisted

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    • Ridingforthebrand
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:49am

      Ep46 and disenlightened you both are very correct. I have thought the same for quite some time. Think about it. If there are ten million small businesses in the US then that is ten million owners that the Feds have to try in control. But if the government can push most of those business out through regulations and the remaining number sell out to large corporations then the number of entities that need to be controlled is reduced. It doesn’t matter which side the politicans are on, they are full of s*** when they say they support small businesses. If they truly wanted small busineeses to succeed they would never support or pass all the burdensome regulations that are so prevalent in all the states in this country. Lets all get involved and stop this assult on our freedoms.

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    • Balrog28
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:56am

      simple answer – “I WILL NOT COMPLY!”

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    • rangerp
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:34pm

      hucksqr

      So what if he wanted to put up three strands of barbed wire fence, and raise Asian tigers. What if he had cows with mad cow disease, and did not want to kill them.

      The good folks of Michigan can handle this one. it is not a federal gov issues.

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  • abbygirl1994
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 2:57am

    What the heck is wrong with these pigs that the idjits in Washington are so hell bent on ruining this farm?? So they came from wild stock. they seem pretty darn domesticated now… and they are a great source of food! Didn’t or ancestors eat these critters?? I am hoping in November we can tell these yahoos to go straight to hell… Regulation after regulation.. and we must hold Mitt’s feet to the fire to undo all the crap Obama and his merry men put into place and flush them down the crapper! Lord help us!

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:41am

      Like Glenn says – Cass Sunstein the most dangerous man in America.

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    • RugerHoyt
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:31am

      I understand that these animals probably roamed free at one time, but because of there destructive nature, I would almost put money on the fact that they are now in some kind of high fence operation. From Dictionary.com on the definition of “feral”:
      1. existing in a natural state, as animals or plants; not domesticated or cultivated; wild.
      2. having reverted to the wild state, as from domestication: a pack of feral dogs roaming the woods.

      If the bigs are indeed in a high fence operation, does that still make them “feral”? Let these farmers/ranchers be, if there is no way for the pig to escape then there is no threat.

      I also don’t believe the farmer is right in comparing a deer to a pig, even a heard of deer compared to a group of pigs. Yes deer do do damage to crops, but it is only evident when the combine starts rolling as to what the deer did. A group of pigs on the other hand decimate anything in there path, and there wallows can even alter the land itself, causing even more field work. In my opinion, if deer were considered a plague, feral hogs would be the appocalypse….

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    • encinom
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:16am

      abbygirl1994
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 2:57am
      What the heck is wrong with these pigs that the idjits in Washington are so hell bent on ruining this farm??
      ________________
      Please read the article first. The action is being taking by the STATE NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I understand beckerheads have knee jerk anti-Obama reactions, but learn to read the article first. Also travel to the south, Texas to see the damage these pigs do to family farms.

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    • brickmoon
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:13am

      It may be a state issue, but it’s a feral government.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:58pm

      encinom

      Thanks dude, you beat me to it. THIS IS A STATE GOV ISSUE, it is not the federal gov.

      We conservaties rant and rave about putting power back in the hands of the state, and out of the hands of the federal government/

      The people of michigan have the power to vote. IF they do not want russian boars running around, spreading disease to other live stock, to wild game, and destroying forests and farm land, then kill them. if Michigan people want wild hogs, then they will vote as such.

      You might watn to run down to Georgai, Alabama, Florida, and other southern states, and see the damage these wild pigs are causing.

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  • Paralleluniverse
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:54am

    First, it starts with pigs. Eventually it will be humans. Where’ PETA or code pig, er, I mean code pinko on this one?

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    • boston dotty
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:20am

      it’s pork and muslims DO NOT EAT PORK , so Obama has decided to rid the country of pigs , no more ham,no more bacon :-(

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  • KangarooJack
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:15am

    I’ve been all over the State-for decades. I’ve YET to see a feral swine, much less a domsticated swine smeared across the road. EXCEPT for ONE instance about 17yrs ago. a hog got loose from a slaughterhouse and got smeared by a semi. The road was yucky!!

    Other than that. Live in a farm community, take walks, drive the roads, NO ONE has complained about feral pigs destroying ANYTHING??? I’m on Facebook-same thing, no one even knows where these feral pigs are.

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 4:17am

      KANGAROOJACK, Sorry to disagrr. I am from Ohio and recently we have started to see them in our area. They do allot of damage and are infact dangerous to pets and humans. It is a serious problem in many areas of our country. It only takes one or two to escape and it is a problem. Actually if one pregnant sow escaped it usually has a large litter and I believe they have a litter 3 or 4 times a year. It rapidly gets out of hand. They are quite mean and destructive to land and crops causing much grief to the property owners.

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  • cassandra
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:06am

    this is nothing more than the obama machine telling people what they can or can’t do on their own land ,there are alot of democrates in Mi. and you people better wake up or you will have NO rights left at all, I was going to be charged with a 500 dollar fine by the DNR because I saved a baby chimpmunk, oh how terrible of me, I was told I should have just left the baby in my yard to die,then these morons said what if everybody would do this, yea right Mi. would be over run with chimpmunks

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    • KangarooJack
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:58am

      been there done that. Saved some baby squirrels-actually had the audacity to call the DNR phoneline. I got read the RIOT ACT for taking in the baby squirrels vs. letting them die on the sidewalk. What a blessing though, nursed the babes-their eyes opened and all was healthy, then they caught a damn cold and died. Broke my heart. I’ll write for the 1st time…I actually did mouth to mouth -but they died anyway. Man, this was over 20yrs ago and I still tear up.

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  • Belchfire V-8
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:28am

    Hmmm, in a lot of states, those suckers are doing a lot of crop damage. Shoot them all.

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    • NOT A CRAZY
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:42am

      You know what, a$$wipe, a pig is not feral unless it is wild and free to cause damage. These are family farms with pigs in fenced enclosures. Maybe the government should come in and force you to kill off your livelihood or face a felony.

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    • Wolf
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:57am

      They‘re doing no where near the damage the Turd’s farm policies are doing- shall we shoot him as well?

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:23am

      DNR has no business inspecting farms in the first place, that would be the Dept of Agriculture’s responsibility. DNR can’t just decide animals already owned to be invasive and have them destroyed. I would not let them touch one hair of any hog. Gestapo bassterds

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    • ConstLaw
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 4:50am

      Belchfire V-8 is 100% correct. In Texas alone, according to the Tex. Dept. of Ag. in 2008, feral hogs did $52 million in crop damage & the Tex. Dept of Wildlife spent another $25 million to contol these hogs. I know of many farmers in Medina and Bandera Counties that have been put out of business by these feral hogs.

      Additionally, I have hunted these SOB’s for decades and they can NOT be contained by any fence. They can dig under any fence and I have personally seen them bust right through square mesh fence, barbed wire and even razor wire.

      Furthermore, they can reproduce at 6 months old and have 8 to 12 offspring twice a year. That means in two years, one sow can produce 22,544 offspring. The Discovery channel did a story on the titled “Pig Bomb.” Populations have gone from less than 2 million 10 years ago to over 4 million in 2008 and that is with millions of dollars spent to control the population as well as massive hunting programs. They love corn and are competing with humans for food sources.

      Finally, it is so bad in Texas, that these feral hogs are responsible several deaths of humans, including in a suburb of Dallas. I say, kill them all before it is to late or have these feral pig farmers tag all their livestock and then put up a $500 million bond and when their pigs escape (and they will) then the other crop farmers can be conpensated for their damages.

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    • starman70
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:03am

      There are wild hogs here where I live and farm. They do a lot of damage, especially to soybean crops. They root up the plants and destroy them.

      Most of them are descended from hogs imported from other areas for sport hunting. Some escaped and have bred producing thousands of offspring. They also have bred with free ranging domestic hogs.

      Fortunately, our state has no season on wild hogs so we can try to eliminate them year round. When they invade the fields, we are allowed to harvest them for food and stock our freezers.

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    • disenlightened
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:07am

      Belchfire V-8 is NOT 100% correct. These are NOT FERAL PIGS – they’re in cages. What part of that don’t you understand?

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    • antrancher
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:12am

      And you think this has nothing to do with the Muslim population in Michigan. I think we should all turn in to Pig Farmers. Maybe they would go home were they belong. If you want the Middle East…go there!

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    • ContraryFarmer
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:18am

      Constlaw, it is incorrect to say these pigs can NOT be held in by fencing. It is true, however, that PHYSICAL fencing does little to no good in curtailing them. On the other hand, electric fencing, which is a phsycological barrier, is incredibly effective. A single strand a few inches above the ground is sufficient to keep most pigs where you want them. If the hogs are exceptionally large, a double or triple strand can be used, but it is important to “train” them on the low strand. Once that wet, sensitive nose gets a 1500v shock, they remember it. So much so, that my biggest difficulty with swine has been moving them to a new paddock. Some simply WILL NOT cross that line where the fence WAS without a little “encouragement” from my dog. I have used this system for years with standard hybrid hogs, Tamworths and many, many wild boar and never once had a hog that didn’t respect the electric fence.
      On a side note, people are starving in this country and local butchers could always use the work. I do not understand why we don’t simply hunt the feral beasts en masse and feed them to people. Boar is pig and pig is tasty.

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    • MAMMY_NUNN
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:24am

      The Michigan DNR is into everything for money or revenue if you want to raise Pheasants no matter where you got them you must get a permit from the Michigan DNR to have them in your possession no matter what your intentions personal consumption or release. They have interfered in the natural process of species and done harm to species with a preference to other species. Picking winners and losers.

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    • Belchfire V-8
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:02am

      Not a crazy, the pigs that ARE loose were once behind a fence. Or their ancestors, they are not indigenous. And as for the personal attack, come visit MY farm, we will talk.

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    • ConstLaw
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:05pm

      @ disenlightened, I like it when ignorant people post something they know nothing about. Here is a video on youtube posted by Mark Baker from Baker’s Green Acres showing his pigs and the farm.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkh5yp70OdA

      You can see that the pigs are not in “cages” as you claimed in your post. Additionally, you can see is this video and others Mr. Baker has posted that his pigs are retained only by a barbed wire fence and/or the square mesh fence I spoke about.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CVw__hCuFo&feature=plcp

      @ ContraryFarmer I don’t know what type of whimpy feral hogs you have delt with, but we have built large corrals using electric fencing and lured the pigs in with corn. When the shooting begins, these 350+ lbs pigs running at 20+ mph bust right through the electric fence. I have personally seen feral hogs bust through electric fences even when they are not being shot at. Often they have a herd mentallity, and when one starts running, they all run for no reason and they will hit an electric fence at full speed and it will not even slow them down. There are farmers all over Texas laughing at your statments you posted here.

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    • ContraryFarmer
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 2:27pm

      @Constlaw…I certainly hope that farmers all over Texas don’t have the same poor comprehension skills that you do. I never once stated that I have worked with feral hogs. That’s the entire point. MY pigs, very many of which were of the same breed coming under fire here, including my first boar pair which was wild-caught, were easily contained by electric fencing. They never escaped, therefore they never became feral. Since the article you commented on pertains to FARMED pigs that have a POTENTIALITY of becoming destructive IF they escape their confines, I assumed that you were speaking of those same pigs. This article, and therefore my comment, was never about already feral hogs. I was simply answering your comments “they can NOT be contained by any fence” and “when their pigs escape (and they will)” with my personal experience of 100% effectivity of electric fencing when dealing with pigs.
      That being said, I would tend to agree that tagging these animals could possibly be a more reasonable way of dealing with the destruction caused by escapees. I am all for personal responsibilty. I know for a fact there is a way to contain these animals so they don‘t become a problem and I also know for a fact that there are idiots out there who don’t know what the hell they are doing. Intelligent farming requires understanding the nature of one’s animals and working with it instead of against it.

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  • Small World
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:06am

    Could this have anything to do with the Muslims?

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    • NOT A CRAZY
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:43am

      You might be on to something. Michigan, muslims and pigs. Hmmmmm….

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    • lukerw
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:38am

      GOP: Limit = More Profit! Democrats: Limit = People Control! Muslims: Limit = Worship! Radicals: Limit = Revenge!

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  • HaroldHeard
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:56pm

    Okay, now this might not be popular, but the only reason I can come to for this federal ban on hogs is that muslims find hogs to be n-holy and a threat, which means if they touch one they can not go to heaven (or what ever they call it), so in order for the BO administration to demonstrate loyalty to that religion they must first start address the very high hog population in the United States.

    So, chalk-up another win for the radicals muslims, they are now clearing the hog problem

    Remember this is my opinion only

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  • pissantno.10
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:35pm

    those are highly trained sucide pigges in Pakistan just waiting for the right moment to jump

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  • Dougral Supports Israel
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:25pm

    This is another case where bureaucrats should not have power to shut down businesses by fiat. If those pigs are a true danger then the legislature can deal with it and compensate those people for their loss. Heck, if I was one of those farmers I would drive the pigs off my land into the woods and let DNR try to hunt them down. They want environmental damage, I’d give it to them!

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  • rawmilker
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:22pm

    Follow the $$, I’l be willing to bet they getting huge government funding/ grants to wage this war on feral pigs. So in that case they must make a spectacle out of the situation> Why don’t they spend the time & resources on hiring trappers to go into the countryside and trap the invasive ones running wild. Why go after the people’s private stock? Ohh that would be too difficult.

    I have those hogs all over my property here in N FL and we control them ourselves….

    It’s all about the power grab.

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  • c0mm0nsense
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:20pm

    The DNR even regulates your beach front. If you wish to pull the weeds, rake, move or add sand you must get a permit and can only do it certain times of the year. And that is only recently, before you couldn’t groom the beach at all. Vacationing, I took the family to a resort on Lake Huron, walk down to the beach and it was all weeds and muck. To bad it was not duck season. But no worries they had a nice pool. Michigan is building a new economy around Windmills, Movie Production and a Failed Auto Industry. Oh! I think they regulate how much water you can pump out of your water well too. Good thing they had the pool filled before we arrived.

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:54pm

      They are letting bottled water company pump out the water from the aquafir (sp?) where my cottage well water comes from .. hopefully I will be able to sell it before it runs dry …but I am not counting on it … Michigan was in the toilet before the rest of the country (they had their own “Obama” named Granholm big idiot! now teaching in California so she still doesn‘t have a real job just indoctrinating university students so they don’t know anything either) and they will still be in the toilet long after the other states start to recover .. provided we get rid of Obama .. otherwise we are all screwed!

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    • c0mm0nsense
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:50am

      Granholm was looking at regulating ground water in Michigan before she was in office. I was at a drilling Convention on the west side of the state. They had an attorney speaking there about water rights. She was part of the Granholm for Governor Campaign and was trying to sell the regulation of the all Water Rights of Michigan. The room basically came unglued. The People from the Michigan Ground Water Association apologized to us. I do have few Questions for you. Have any of the Wells dried up in the Area of the Bottling Company? And how deep is your well and any that have dried up? A lot of the time they are shallow aquifers that dry up and do so every summer with or without the pumping of deeper aquifers.

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    • c0mm0nsense
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:56am

      CatB
      That comment was for you. lol

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:52am

      Haven’t heard of any drying up yet .. and don’t remember how deep my well is .. the cottage is West Michigan – Lake County … What is it with these Marxists like Granholm and Obama … they don‘t see anything they don’t think they should CONTROL … I am SO sick of it .. that is why I left Michigan …I was sick of Granholm in her first 4 years .. didn’t stick around for the last 4 .. but I am STUCK with this cottage for now .. neighbors have tried to sell and NOTHING is moving.

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  • katy
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:18pm

    This is what we need to see and hear more of.. I.WILL.NOT.COMPLY!

    I‘m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QMBZDwf9dok

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  • spikebu
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:17pm

    Isn’t this like Wilson destroying crops and herds when he knew the country was hurting?

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:44pm

      Not certain, but didn’t that also happen under the earliest FDR term?

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    • spikebu
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:38am

      Not sure why I am thinking Wilson. Probably wrong. FDR works, too. One of the Progressives destroyed food supplies while our country was starving. I’m just too tired to look it up. Point was, killing these pigs, isn’t this like that?

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    • spikebu
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 5:48am

      Coupled with the kids can’t work the farm, thing?

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  • spikebu
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:15pm

    I’m pretty sure there will be a whole lot of folk in those 39 states who will be VERY grateful for the 4 million feral hogs, in the not too distant future.

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    • countryfirst
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:31am

      Come on people and acknowledge that feral animals destroy the environment and way of life, The only thing is they are in our government

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  • willbedone
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:15pm

    Islam, Michigan has a bunch of ‘em. Do you think that Islamist in Michigan have anything to do with it?

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    • spirited
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:46pm

      Interesting

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:55pm

      Too bad the farmers didn’t just take them to Dearborn and release them ;-)

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    • SgtB
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:31am

      No, this is big agra and wacko environmentalists territory. Not Muslims.

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  • obersaber
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:14pm

    40 years of deer hunting in Michigan and I have never seen a feral hog.

    Looks to me like an excuse for a DNR power grab.

    What next?

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  • Captain Crunch
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:14pm

    If the swine are that bad why don’t they they just declare opened season on them with no restrictions on hunting methods, or hours in which hunting is permitted. I know several people who would love to go swine hunting in the middle of the night…all summer long…with night vision scopes..etc.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:27am

      There is an open kill order for the feral hogs. Problem is, nobody can seem to find any. If they were such a problem they should be all over the place. It is a bold faced lie by the DNR. I always keep an eye out for them when I am hunting as I would love to bag the extra meat.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 1:33am

      It is because the “feral hog explosion” is a myth in Michigan and they are just trying to gain ever greater power over the individuals of their state. It has nothing to do with feral hogs.

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  • scout n ambush
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:13pm

    Who would hate pork so much they would push to slaughter even those penned up including poor little porkrinds .I did see a story about a city in pakistan overtaken by feral pigs and the muslims were hiring infidels to kill them and remove them

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    • pissantno.10
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:41pm

      those were highly trained sucide pigges just waiting to blow them selfves up

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  • KangarooJack
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:01pm

    Hey!! I’ve High Hopes for my youngest to BE a DNR Officer. He’s got the knowledge AND the gumption. Sooo, I’m NOT knocking the DNR. What I AM saying is this. WHERE ARE ALL THESE FERAL SWINE PIGS??? OMG! all ALL this money AND rhetoric ought to be spent on keeping those flying carp out of The Great Lakes! Free “free” pigs = bacon to us in Michigan. – - – and WE love Bacon. Even have Bacon Muffins. lol

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    • Lt_Scrounge
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:16pm

      We have a feral hog problem here in Texas too. The solution is an open hunting season on them. It’s even legal to hunt them over bait, with dogs, or in the dark. Of course Texas is a conservative state and have less restrictive gun and hunting laws than states controlled by liberals.

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    • Long Island Blazer
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:20pm

      I‘ve seen a lot of roadkill but in the 30 years I’ve been driving I’ve yet to see a dead pig on the road.

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    • armyofnibiru
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:45pm

      feral,wait this was started over non native swine. there is no native swine in the americas.so they called them feral(having returned to wild)hogwash.my annanocky masters have told me that the muslums that control the whitehouse think that swine are dirty,and the planet should cleansed of all swine includeing white longpig.so lets share the bacon,porkchops,bbqribs and all the rest of this delicious animal forall..like uncle Ted says if god(annanocky) didn’t want us to eat animals he (they) wouldn’t have made them taste soooooy good…!!

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  • JP4JOY
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:00pm

    I saw one of those mystery detective shows where this guy had been getting rid of bodies for some years by feeding them to his hogs, wouldn’t want to have to visit one of those farms on bad terms.

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  • thespank
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 10:49pm

    The “Doctor” frekin rules! Good man! We miss him.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:52pm

      I catch him when he fills in for Beck. I would be a good thing to get his show down here though.

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  • KangarooJack
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 10:47pm

    He is NOT WRONG on bringing to question the entire ‘feral swine’ issue. Honestly, we really haven’t heard a call to arms against feral pigs. I’ve no doubt they are out there…just as I have no doubt that YES, there really ARE black panthers/cougars out there. I LIVE in a rural County of Michigan and-not really heard any farmers complaining about feral swine destroying their crops. Mostly heard complaints about city people moving into towns and THEN suing about NOXIOUS smells aka a FARM. CENTENNIAL FARMS NO LESS-been there-long time-but, gee, can’t stand the smell of cow dung-if they were smart, might have wondered WHY the realtor only showed the Property when the wind was blowing NorthEast? lol lol

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 10:54pm

      Panthers and Cougars aren’t bad, just lonely and looking for a nice young man. Sheesh, just buy them a drink, you don’t have to hunt them, unless they are into that.

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    • KangarooJack
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:46am

      THANK YOU! You got the ‘official’ belly laugh from this ole chick! Yes, you ARE the winner of ‘My Belly Laugh of the Day’ award—- only thing is, this is a story about swine….yea, ummm, not sooo comfortable giving the award away full view of stage. lol lol lol

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 10:44pm

    Can we ban the feral swine in the whitehouse? Yes we can, vote anybody but Obama, 2012.

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  • Baddoggy
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 10:38pm

    DNR…Do Not Resuscitate…after I stick a pitchfork in his sorry a@@…oops…

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 10:56pm

      MIchigan DNR are the feral SWINE .. these farmers have swine on their farms .. they are not feral. I am amazed that no one from the DNR has been shot .. I know places in the “woods” they wouldn’t dare try to take anything!

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