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Michael Moore: Guns Today ‘Not Really’ What Founding Fathers Meant When They Said ‘Right to Bear Arms’

Michael Moore said on Piers Morgan Tuesday night that the founding Fathers would have omitted the right to bear arms from the Bill of Rights if they would have known how much guns would modernize in the coming centuries.

Ironically maintaining that “guns don’t kill people, Americans kill people,“ Moore began by saying it must seem ”odd“ to people in other countries how we view our Constitution as being written ”through some sort of divine intervention or whatever,“ and that ”because what they thought was right in 1776 to 1789 … that is the way we have to live today in the 21st century.”

Here is a clip of his subsequent remarks, via the Washington Examiner:

Moore said:

… when [the Founding Fathers] said, the right to bear arms…you know, the “arm” back then was you could — you could only fire one shot at a time. You had a little — a little ball bearing-like bullet. You had to stuff it in the thing and then you had to do this, and the gun powder, and, you know, took 15 minutes before you could fire one shot.

Now, if the Founding Fathers could have looked into a crystal ball and seen AK-47s and Glock semiautomatic pistols, I got a feeling they wouldn’t — I think they’d want to leave a little note behind and probably tell us, you know, that’s not really what we mean when we say “bear arms.”

…I wish we would just live in this century. I think they’d want us to do that.  [Emphasis added]

This isn’t the first time Moore has made wild assertions about the Founding Fathers.  In January, he said that the United States was “founded on genocide and build on the backs of slaves,” while in December of 2010 he claimed the Founding Fathers would have been Wikileakers.

Here’s a “brief history of America” as Moore apparently sees it, from his award-winning “Bowling for Columbine”:

Piers Morgan added that he has been “angered” by Americans’ reaction to the Aurora, Colorado massacre, and how there has been a significant rise in gun sales in the area.

Moore agreed, responding:

I mean, I just really want to say to people, you’re not living in a movie … So let’s say you have a gun on you and a guy is there. He lets off a tear gas canister. There’s gas everywhere. People are crawling over, running over everybody, there’s total chaos, you’re going to somehow very quickly, because he’s — remember, he’s got a semiautomatic gun, so he’s popping people very quickly every second. You‘re going to somehow get your gun out and you’re back in row 15 and you’re somehow going to find that guy in the gas and shoot him and take him down. I mean, really?…

Moore concluded by saying he refuses “to live in a country” like this but, to the chagrin of many, obstinately declared that he’s “not leaving.”

He concluded: “It’s got to change. And I invite Americans who feel the same way as I do — and I believe it’s the majority — to help me change this, help everyone change this…Rise up now.”

 

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  • countryfirst
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:45pm

    Look at History when the population has been removed from their guns over 50 million dead. Guns protect us from the tyranny of government. When the population is armed they are citizens, when they are disarmed they are slaves.

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    • TexasHunter
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 5:06pm

      We also have Rules on Illegal immigration!! Lets see is that working Michael Moore?? I have to get a permit to have a concealed weapon. Why can I not get a permit to have a concealed immigrant ? All new gun laws would do is make it tougher on the law abiding citizens of the USA. So go eat another burger Michael and STFU.

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    • 000degrees
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 5:12pm

      Go away moore….

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    • jhrusky
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 5:29pm

      In 1911, Turkey established gun control. Subsequently, from 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, deprived of means to defend themselves, were rounded up and killed.

      In 1929, the Soviet Union establised gun control. Then, from 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents were rounded up and killed.

      In 1938 Germany established gun control. From 1939 to 1945 over 13 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, mentally ill, union leaders, Catholics and others, unable to fire a shot in protest, were rounded up and killed.

      In 1935, China established gun control. Subsequently between 1948 and 1952 over 20 million dissidents were rounded up and killed.

      In 1956 Cambodia enshrined gun control In just to years (1975 – 1977) over one million ‘educated’ people were rounded up and killed.

      In 1964 Guatemala locked in gun control. From 1964 to 1981 over 100,000 Mayan Indians were rounded up and killed as a result of thier inability to defend themselves.

      In 1970 Uganda embraced gun control. Over the next nine years over 300,000 Christians were rounded up and killed.

      Over 56 million people have died because of gun control in the last century.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 5:40pm

      Agreed, history teaches the lessons of defenseless people from a tyrant; one Moore wants to enforce on us weather we want it or not.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 5:41pm

      What this fat turd burger will not tell you, is that there are 35 countries in the world that have higher murder per capita rates that we do, and the majority of them have much stricter gun control.

      What Moore is really saying, is we need to take the guns from the law abiding citizens, so the socialist can go confiscate the Bibles, and start sending the kids to the progressive education camps.

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    • michaelmoron
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 6:02pm

      Please excuse me for being so dense.
      My pineal Gland has deteriorated from all the preservatives, hormones, and pesticides in our foods these days.
      Trust me I eat a lot of food.
      I know the Founding Fathers hated democracy and thought it was the worst form of government there was:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RewUP-Fdhqk
      They used the words “inalienable” and “not to be infringed”
      and idiots like myself try and interpret what these words mean 250 years later.
      You know words change meaning over time… wait. Sorry, brain malfunctioning again.
      I am not sure if the Founding Fathers would allow us free speech anymore, because our language has changed over the years…. wait. My brain is toast.
      Does anyone have a HoHo or a twinkie they are not going to eat?

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    • Secret Squirrel
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 6:09pm

      .
      Michael Moore thinks he KNOWS what the founding Fathers intended,
      even though he hates America. Odd.
      I guess in his world, only muskets would be legal.
      Sorry, Mikey, but the second amendment is for the time when
      Americans may need to overthrow their oppressive government,
      much like the founders overthrew King George.

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    • knockered
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 6:18pm

      Well said…..

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    • yubba
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 7:08pm

      no actually they are subjects, subject to tyranny, over taxaition, relocation, extermnination, and a host of other crappy things evil people can come up with.

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    • rc30
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 7:35pm

      Moore is a dope. If he new are history. Then I think the fonders would have wished they had AKs. Please he knows why we have guns. Hes a big GOV guy and loves telling people what they should do.
      He so dam smart he thinks he will be a high member when his party takes total control. The funny thing after there take over he won’t offer much. Didn‘t Marxs say if you can’t help or give to the state. Then there no need for you.

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    • starman70
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 7:54pm

      Michael, YOU ARE AN IDIOT! Do us all a favor and move to France. There you can remember the advertisement which appeared several years ago: FOR SALE, 1 French army rifle, Never Fired, Dropped only once.

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    • black9897
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 8:23pm

      Moore is one of the last people on earth that needs to be commenting on what the founding fathers meant about the 2nd amendment. You don’t think they knew there would be better guns made in the future? It was written as timeless. Not to be “changed” for today. That was kinda the point. They weren’t granting rights, merely stating them. My right to bear arms doesn’t magically change in 2012 anymore than my right to life.

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    • MCDAVE
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 9:27pm

      @STARMAN70 LOL great comment

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    • SLAPTHELEFT
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 9:38pm

      News flash- Michael Moore does not care about Michelle‘s let’s move agenda. Effin racist fat white dumpy d-bag. Respect Michelle.

      And we do live in this century. Ar15 rocks my man! The founders could have ended the revolutionary war in one week. They would be proud of us.

      But I’m with you Michael. Our govt should never provide assault rifles to drug cartels. We finally agree. Somethings got to be done about it.

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    • Sleazy Hippo
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 9:41pm

      You miscreants do not understand the true value a complex intellect like Mr. Moore provides. I will bet you would not even detect if Mr. Moore was a contributor to the esteemed Blaze website!

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    • Uranium Wedge
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 9:55pm

      Guess what Moore? You also have the right to be a fat ass. Go fig.

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    • turkey13
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 10:24pm

      If Washington could have seen the Glocks and AK-47′s he would have used his wealth to arm every man at Valley Forge. Shucks you teased me – thought he was really leaving the USA. Even with him being a 1%er and as dumb as he is, he’s figured out like a lot of people this is the best place in the world to live in.

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    • Ramrod64
      Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:26am

      Here is another one of those people(not straight) who should put his head up his butt and someone plush him down the crapper.

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    • Rolandd
      Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:59am

      @STARMAN70
      He will never move to France, he’d have to pay 75% tax on his income.

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    • Bugg24
      Posted on July 26, 2012 at 4:46am

      It saddens me to realize how far our country has fallen. We are on a path of destruction with no optimistic end in sight. We get farther apart everyday with this administration actively dividing the American people on all fronts with the media’s full support. It sickens me to look to the future and see nothing but heartache with our great nation up in arms against another tyrannical government, unfortunately this time we are fighting for our own freedoms instead of some forien 3rd world country. No, this time we will have to fight to keep our freedoms to prevent us from becoming a 3rd world country. There is so much both sides disagree on now. In the past we disagreed on little things, now we are having to defend our own Constitution because a large and growing portion of our government and population has decided it is out of date. From gun control to fast food restaurants, every issue is becoming a battle not to better our country, but to tear it down. If we were trying to better our country, we would be debating how to implement strategies on how to lower taxes and create jobs. Instead, we are listening to idiots tell us what the founding fathers meant by “bear arms” the second amendment is not there so sportsman can go hunting on the weekends, it is there to protect our right to defend this republic from the tyrannical leaders we were bound to acquire eventually. Those writing the constitution knew we would have a similar situation as to be expected.

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    • 000degrees
      Posted on July 26, 2012 at 6:51am

      I can’t see where any of the founders would agree with moore on any subject.

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on July 26, 2012 at 8:03am

      And Moores movies,porn,and farrakhan not really what the founders had in mind with the first amendment.

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    • radicalRWer
      Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:40pm

      He is such an elitist know nothing. He says he is for the little man because he can relate to them. Well buddy why on earth must you have a multi million $ castle on Torch Lake in Michigan and make all contractors sign a confidentiality agreement? And why won’t he use only union labor?

      By the way, the One and Only time I went to his State Theater in Traverse City, to watch the Resolution, I was packing :)

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    • glennpatstu
      Posted on July 26, 2012 at 2:37pm

      OK, so I know this is a REALLY dull crowd here at the blaze, but was your takeaway from these comments really that someone wants to take your guns? Do you guys ever read past the headlines? A line has to be drawn somewhere which is why today you can’t own a tank, a rocket launcher or a nuclear weapon even though all of these things are ‘arms’. All Moore and others are saying is that you don’t need an AR-15 to go buck hunting, and if you do, you are a terrible shot.

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    • black9897
      Posted on July 26, 2012 at 6:53pm

      @GLENNPATSTU

      I don’t mind having a line drawn at tanks, rocket launchers or nukes. But don’t set up straw men to make your point. Some ordinary people might be able to afford a rocket launcher, but not a tank and if you can afford a nuke..well…I’d like to know what you do for a living. There is nothing unreasonable with owning an AR-15, or an AK for whatever purpose you choose as long as it does not involve harming anyone and or violating their rights. I’m not suggesting we strap up like military and walk around with AK’s, but owning them is perfectly fine.

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    • Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
      Posted on July 27, 2012 at 1:31am

      RC30: You wrote: “Moore is a dope. If he new are history. Then I think the fonders would have wished they had AKs….He so dam smart…The funny thing after there take over he won’t offer much. Didn‘t Marxs say if you can’t help or give to the state. Then there no need for you.”

      No, the funny thing is how uneducated you seem with that comment. You call him a dope yet in the span of a few sentences you misspelled:

      * knew
      * our
      * founders
      * their
      * Marx
      * you forgot the word “is”
      * no, Marx did not say that

      And you have the nerve to call someone else a dope? I’ve said it before, the tea party movement represents a failure of the American education system.

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    • Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
      Posted on July 27, 2012 at 1:40am

      black9897 and anyone else that feels the 2nd Amendment must be adhered to verbatim, that it can never be changed and we must follow the exact words the founders wrote:

      Let’s talk about the 2nd Amendment for a moment, shall we? As a reminder, here is what it reads exactly as written and ratified in our Constitution:

      “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

      Read it again and think for a moment, because I suspect most have not ever actually done so. It says “a well regulated militia,” meaning unless you are part of a militia, and I would bet most of you are not, you do not have a constitutional right to bear arms. Another very important phrase is “A WELL REGULATED,” meaning that for those in the militia, they are subject to training, rules and other potential restrictions. There is no blanket right for every yahoo and yokel to have a firearm. I am amazed at how so many people demand we make no changes to the 2nd and that we must follow it strictly yet conveniently forget or deliberately ignore what it actually says. It’s not that difficult of a concept.

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    • Bill Rowland
      Posted on July 27, 2012 at 6:50am

      Moore sickens me. He thinks that he knows more about what the founders wanted than anyone else. He is a fat, ugly opinionated idiot.
      The Blaze should not be giving this slob any publicity, it only reinforces his attitude of self importance.
      Please ignore him, maybe he will go away.

      OMG Nov 6,2012

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on July 27, 2012 at 8:37am

      “Guns protect us from the tyranny of government.”

      And that is exactly why it is part of the constitution. MM is a wannabe cattle herder!!

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    • black9897
      Posted on July 27, 2012 at 10:31am

      @REALITY

      Thanks. I‘ve looked at and know what the 2nd amendment means. You only quoted the first part; after that it says the right of the people to bear arms. It’s very cut and dry. See, the whole purpose they stated this (keep in mind this or any other amendment does not GRANT me rights, but simply STATES them) was so that we the people could not be disarmed and taken over by our government. Those who have the guns call the shots. The point being I don’t need the 2nd amendment to carry a gun..if it didn’t’ exist I would still carry, why? Because I have a God-given right to protect myself. If you don’t’ want to do that, it’s your choice, but don’t’ force me to do what you believe.

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on July 27, 2012 at 12:10pm

      StarMan

      The version I know is

      For Sale: (1) ARVN M-16, never been fired and only dropped once.

      Michael: The British soldier could routinely present and fire 3 coordinated volleys in one minute using the “Brown Bess” Tower Musket. Rifles took longer to load but could place aimed fire out to 200 yards compared the Brown Bess range of 75 yards. Your 15 minute reload is BS.

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  • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:45pm

    So now Fat-Ass is channeling the Founding Fathers? It DOES NOT take 15 minutes to reload a muzzle-loader. This idiot knows nothing about guns, ecxcept that he doesn’t want them around, until they save his life. There are a lot of pro-gun people who used to be against guns until they were mugged. Fat-Ass is delusional if he thinks the majority is with him on gun control. By FAR, more people are killed in auto accidents than shot by a gun. Does Fat-Ass want to outlaw cars? I bet not.

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    • justangry
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:50pm

      He’s channeling a school of thought started by Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., Brandeis, Wilson, etc. and is the preeminent view of constitutionalism of both parties today. It removes natural law from the equation.

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    • booger71
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 5:01pm

      This Intellectual Hippo does not know the the first thing about guns or Our Founding Fathers. Washington would have given his wooden choppers for a few AR-15′a and some grenade launchers.

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    • TADTAD
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 5:30pm

      Sure that obese, drives up the cost of health care slob wants a ban on cars, too.

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    • v15
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 5:44pm

      So it looks like Michael Moore is now a constitutional scholar. So, tell me which kills more people in this country: obesity-linked diseases or guns?

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    • Orion the truth hunter
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 6:08pm

      Moore’s “if the Founding Fathers could have looked into a crystal ball” shows how little he knows. The first breech loading rifles were created for the British a few years before our war. Their leaders were not impressed and refused to upgrade. The breech loaders that had already been made were then sold to the colonist to get rid of the inventory. While it was a small number of guns, WE had the most advanced rifles on the planet. I learned this in 6th grade (a long time ago), I wonder what Moore’s excuse is.

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    • SCREW-WINDOWS
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 6:33pm

      The Founding Fathers really meant going shirtless.

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  • All Pro
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:45pm

    Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man gainst his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American…[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.
    —Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.
    Ermmm…. as you were saying Mr Moore…..

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    • Something is Wrong
      Posted on July 26, 2012 at 7:56am

      If you look at the military systems of Britain and every other major European country at the time you will find that their armies were very centralized and that soldiers’ lives were very strictly controlled. It was the norm for the time, the way everyone did business. The US broke that trend by having a small centralized military and relying mostly on militias for its national defense. They did that on purpose. Teddy Roosevelt, our first raging Progressive President, destroyed that system with the passage of the National Guard Act of 1903. Never was our President meant to hold total power over the totality of the military force. Governors are not really the leaders of their National Guard units because the President only needs to speak and he has total control and command of those units. I can’t say it enough, REPEAL THE NATIONAL GUARD ACT OF 1903!!! If this one act is repealed, all arguments and attempts to get rid of the Second Amendment are immediately invalidated and abruptly ended. Research it well; one of the biggest steps that can be taken to restore America is to repeal the National Guard Act of 1903

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  • Matt
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:44pm

    Aww he’s not leaving the country? That really makes me sad. Please, for all of us Mike, just move to China already. Even the libs dont listen to you anymore.

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    • ChuckHarding
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 6:02pm

      There are a lot of people, myself included, that would prefer that Moore would move to Hell, permanently.

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  • Mutiny
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:42pm

    “…to disarm the people – that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” George Mason

    “The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.” Alexander Hamilton

    “And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms….The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants” Thomas Jefferson

    “The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” — Thomas Jefferson

    “Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that is good” (George Washington)

    No, Mr. Moore I think the did get it. The problem we face today is our military and police are better armed then the civilians.

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  • Brad Wesselmann
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:41pm

    If the Founding Fathers saw the power and control of today’s Federal govt, they would have insisted an even broader view of the 2nd Amendment…if indeed it is possible to broaden the term “shall NOT be impinged”.

    eh, then again if the Founding Fathers were here with us now we would still be a free, moral and decent country that doesn’t need to worry about weapons in the hands of its citizenry.

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    • AmericanFightingMan1
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:50pm

      Michael Moore is an idiot. He is also uneducated. The 2nd Amendment is clear; the Right to keep and bear arms by the People “shall not be infringed”. Period, end of story. You don’t like it Mr. Moore, try to amend the Constitution or leave (please).

      Moore has no idea about tyranny and the ability of the People to resist it. What, with a parade? A protest march? That might work. Or it might not. If the government continues to march, the right of the People to have the means to defend themselves must be intact and strong.

      Moore does us a favor, however. This slob is a walking billboard the weakness of the American Left. Keep talking Moore.

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  • AvengerK
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:40pm

    Listening to Moore put together his “I mean really” scenario reminds of Obama’s “Iraq Strike Force” and his “civilian defense force” during the 2008. Liberals (I mean the real limousine, academic, elite liberals now) like to believe they have the fullest understanding of how to respond by force.
    And yeah Mikey…even with tear gas canisters..if someone had a gun they could have had a chance at taking down Holmes and saving lives. But to liberal idiots like the bloated oaf Moore…no chance is the wiser option.
    Go back to your Dorritos and Triple Cheese Burgers you corpulent crap merchant.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 5:03pm

      You‘re so ’intolerant’ AK… I like it.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 5:31pm

      Moo’s..sorry…Moore’s problem is that he believes the majority of Americans are on his side on this issue when in fact the opposite is true. Most Americans support the right to bear arms..in fact Colorado has seen a spike in gun sales since the shooting.
      I‘m sure if you put this fact at the bottom of a KFC Family pack bucket he’d see it and finally acknowledge it.

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    • Leveraction3030
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 9:30pm

      Mikey, the government should take away your silverwar. Your fork and spoon are dangerous weapons. Mooshelle is fighting obesity and your weapons should be taken away before you hurt yourself. From the size of you I believe you may have a fully automatic fork. Do you have a special permit for an autoloading fork to shovel in all the poop you eat and then spread?

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  • The_Cabrito_Goat
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:39pm

    Then I guess television isn’t what the founding fathers had in mind for 1st ammendment rights either, Mr. Moore.

    Here’s your subpoena. Have a nice day :D

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:52pm

      Just like disgusting Hollyweird movies with agendas, and internet porn.

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  • jackact
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:39pm

    More pearls of wisdom from America’s fattest 1%

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  • lexington_green
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:38pm

    and the government we have today is not what the founding fathers intended either so it’s a wash. shut up fat man.

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  • FREEDOMoverFEAR
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:38pm

    Micheal Mike Mikey,
    Are founding fathers wanted us to bear arms to prevent a tyranny so I’m pretty sure they would want us as well armed as the government that polices us. Maybe you should move to Cuba so you don’t have to worry about this happening to you.

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  • RJJinGadsden
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:37pm

    So, Moore expects the founding fathers idea that the citizenry should be denied the right to equal fire power of a potential oppressive state? Wait…what? Many to include myself have said this before and I will say it again. The flintlock was the assault rifle of it’s day. But, yes I do know that the first “assault rifle” was basically the StG43. Followed by the AK47. Both of which fired a shorted case version of those nation’s standard rifle round, otherwise an ‘intermediate’ cartridge. The M16 was designed by Eugene Stoner around a newly released varmint round. But still, Flintlocks were used in military assaults of the day.

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  • TEARS FOR AMERICA
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:37pm

    Michael, please do us a favor and move to Cuba!

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:51pm

      Well..Moores seen how good Cuban medicine has been for Hugo Chavez..so Mikey won’t be in any hurry to move to Cuba at this point.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:57pm

      Having met so many Cuban refugees at the Mariel Boat Lift during May, 1980 such a move just might do him some good. Some of the ‘criminal element’ sent our way near the end of the boat lift. I met people who were incarcerated for having more than ten ounces of meat in their home during a one week period. Along with so many other senseless charges too. Sounds like Cuba would be the top of the line Fat Farm for Michael.

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  • trolltrainer
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:37pm

    eh…go suck on a pork chop…

    fatass dork…

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  • yougottabekidding
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:36pm

    All that fat will affect your brain you need Bloombrain to save you

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  • catdragonwrangler
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:36pm

    Mr. Moore scorns people with money, and he is one. He ridicules everything, hates our country and yet, he refuses to leave. Typical lib…..

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:39pm

      Ever wonder if he pays his taxes like Warren Buffett, Charlie Rangle, Nicholas Cage, and Wesley Snipes?

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  • justangry
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:36pm

    “… when [the Founding Fathers] said, the right to bear arms…you know, the “arm” back then was you could — you could only fire one shot at a time. You had a little — a little ball bearing-like bullet. You had to stuff it in the thing and then you had to do this, and the gun powder, and, you know, took 15 minutes before you could fire one shot.

    Now, if the Founding Fathers could have looked into a crystal ball and seen AK-47s and Glock semiautomatic pistols, I got a feeling they wouldn’t — I think they’d want to leave a little note behind and probably tell us, you know, that’s not really what we mean when we say “bear arms.”

    And there it is. The very essence of progressivism. “the times have changed” Progressives on the right use this justification for undeclared wars, federal policing, to legislate morals etc. Here’s a hint. The founders knew that they couldn’t account for what the future would bring so they gave us the amendment process. Have any of you used that excuse when arguing your point on whatever? I know some of you have.

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  • mdman
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:35pm

    He said he refuses to live in a country, yet he refuses to leave….

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  • T-2
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:34pm

    I wish Michael Moore would just leave the US already. Wait, he can’t. His fat ass can’t get on a plane.

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  • tiredofbeingtired
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:34pm

    Hes another piece of trash they ought to take every cent he has and give it to the poor.

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  • Suz617
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:34pm

    Hey Michael, do us all a favor and LEAVE this country. You will NOT be missed! Rise up and do what – what are you asking Americans to do? By the way, you need to learn American History, because you obviously have no clue what the Founding Fathers stood for – or what their intentions were by having the Second Amendment in our Bill of Rights. And Piers, please return to England! Pathetic, both of you…

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  • fande3rls
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:33pm

    Moore is a fool , never graduated high school evil little *****

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  • cal_105
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:32pm

    So now Michael Moore is channeling the founding fathers. Bet he can not even name two of them.

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    • dsd13130
      Posted on July 27, 2012 at 10:47am

      My thoughts exactly!!!!!!!!! And why would anyone listen to this dork?

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  • Maximus_Delta
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:30pm

    This moron doesn’t even know the US Constitution… He is a communist Pig…

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    • Living In NYC
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:41pm

      As General Anthony Clement McAuliffee said when the Germans told him to put down his arms in World War II, General McAuliffee one word phrase is still valid today as we resond to Mikey, Barry and the left wing fools when they tell us to do the same:….“Nuts”

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    • NLN
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 7:04pm

      You have the pig part of that right for sure.I don’t think even the communist would want the slob.

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  • destrecht
    Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:29pm

    Yeah, they meant grizzly upper appendages…

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    • T-2
      Posted on July 25, 2012 at 4:42pm

      don’t know about bear arms, but they have bear claws at Shipley’s Donuts. they’re great.

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