Military Chaplains & Religious Leaders Strike Back at the Pentagon’s New Gay Marriage Rules
- Posted on October 6, 2011 at 9:56am by
Billy Hallowell
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On September 30, The Blaze reported that the Pentagon is now allowing military chaplains to perform same-sex marriages both on and off of military bases.
In response to the announcement, some chaplains are responding by refusing to perform gay marriages in military chapels and by asking Congress to intervene to prevent government facilities from being utilized to hold these matrimonies.
In last week’s memo, the Pentagon wrote:
“A military chaplain may participate in or officiate any private ceremony, whether on or off a military installation, provided that the ceremony is not prohibited by applicable state and local law.
Further a chaplain is not required to participate in or officiate a private ceremony if doing so would be in variance with the tenets of his or her religion.”
Fox News has more on the Pentagon’s changes:
Despite this proclamation, which allocates permission for clergy to wed same-sex couples, representatives of more than 2,000 military chaplains say that associated religious leaders won’t be taking the Pentagon up on the offer. According to the Associated Press:
The Rev. Ron Crews, executive director of the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty, and Archbishop Timothy Broglio, who represents Roman Catholic priests in the military, both say their chaplains won’t violate their faith tenets by marrying same-sex couples.
Aside from claiming that these marriages will not be conducted by their members, Crews and Broglio also claimed that the Pentagon‘s memo and declaration both ignore the federal government’s law that defines marriage as an institution between one man and one woman. According to Crews, Congress should intervene to prevent any federal facility from being used to violate this marriage law.
In a press release, Crews said:
“By dishonestly sanctioning the use of federal facilities for ‘marriage counterfeits’ that federal law and the vast majority of Americans have rejected, the Pentagon has launched a direct assault on the fundamental unit of society – husband and wife.”
We call once again for Congress to affirm that the federal definition of marriage applies to the Department of Defense and that no federal facilities may be used to circumvent federal law. In addition, we call on Congress to enact a ‘Right of Conscience’ clause in the Revised Title 10 code to ensure that no American, and especially not our service members, be forced to deny their religious beliefs.”
The movement against the Pentagon’s proclamation is ramping up on individual military installments as well. At West Point, the renowned military academy located outside of New York City, the Catholic Chapel of the Most Holy Trinity won’t be hosting any gay marriages. CBN has more:
“Holy Trinity is an actual Catholic parish, unlike the non-denominational chapels that are found on other military installations, and the only services held there are Catholic services,” Taylor Henry, director of public affairs and media relations for the Archdiocese, explained.
“The Catholic Church does not perform the sacrament of matrimony for same-sex couples,” he said.
As we reported, no chaplains will be forced to perform same-sex unions. Despite this protection, it seems that religious leaders — at least those who have spoken out thus far — are less than supportive of the Pentagon’s recent change of heart.
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Comments (215)
Heil88
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:50amIts Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve…..LOL nasty butt pirates.
Report Post »Cerealface
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:09amIt’s an old joke no one has ever heard before.
Report Post »Neo Con John
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:12amArrree Matie,
Report Post »Quit your grinning and drop your linen.
rangerp
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:23amThe average American tax payer has no idea what this is about to cost. The jump in medical costs will be alarming. This foolishness of allowing degenerate sodomites to serve will drop morale, drop lethality, stop good soldiers from joining, cause good soldiers from staying in, and let predators in amongst the ranks. Of the soldiers relieved from duty during the years of DADT, most were found out, because of assaults.
Good to see some still have a backbone, and willing to do the right thing. There will be a witch hunt in the very near future, to weed out those who have such a stance, and are willing to speak up. I sure hope we can get a republican president that will reverse this trend, and run these sodomites out of our military.
gay = 2% of the population
Report Post »they have 80% of the AIDS
they have 64% of the syphilis
lesbians are twice as likely to have an STD as a heterosexual woman
homosexual men commit one third of child molestations
homosexual men are 4000 times more likely to get anal cancer
homosexuals have much higher rates of alcohol abuse, drug abuse, suicide, assault
LiberalMarine
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:29am@Ranger I know whenever anyone calls you out on your facts, you say you got them from the CDC. Could you provide a link to these facts from the CDC themselves?
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:30am@ rangerp Well put. Maybe the next POTUS will reverse this great injustice.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:32am@Rangerp
“The average American tax payer has no idea what this is about to cost. The jump in medical costs will be alarming.”
I disagree. First, on a logical level, if the American tax payer doesn’t know what it costs -now-, it‘s unlikely they’ll notice an “alarming” jump. Second, the article is about gay marriage, not the repeal of DADT (which is presumably what you’re talking about). I doubt marrying two men or two women will increase medical expenses. Third, homosexuals already serve; just not openly. There will be no change in medical expenses among these members. If you mean new members, I would imagine they are screened for diseases before joining, with HIV (presumably what you attribute the jump in costs to) disqualifying them. Finally, as for scaring off new recruits, if you joined the military to get away from gays, you’re probably doing it wrong (as there were already gays in the military). If being near a gay man keeps you from fighting for your country, you’re likely too much of a wimp for the armed forced anyway.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:33am@ Ranger
Agreed. All this DADT stuff does is weaken the military from within. It’s a division and distraction to the legitimate members of our military.
Obama’s goal….divide and conquer.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:24pmAt LiberalMarine
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/us.htm
Gays make up 53% + 4% = 57% of all HIV infections. For no more than 4% of the population they got the market cornered on Human Immunodeficiency Virus.
They are over represented by like a factor of almost 15. That is over a whole order of magnitude. Is there a trophy for that?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:27pmAt LiberalMarine
All those bisexuals on the “down low” have to infect women to make the gay community to not look so bad.
“Individuals infected through heterosexual contact account for 31% of annual new HIV infections and 28% of people living with HIV. ” http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/us.htm
Why is it called on the “down low”? If the bisexuals were honest about there bisexuality would women hook up with them less & the AIDS rate go down among women. I think so!
Report Post »motonutt
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:31pmFor you military chaplins that have put it on the line to oppose this…..MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND PROTECT YOU.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:36pmAt Liberalmarine
Shock! Horror! It appears HIV is getting worse again in the gay community.
They make up 64% of new HIV infections.
http://cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/HIV-Infections-2006-2009.pdf
How come I can go downtown, stand a little ways away & watch the goings on of a local cesspool. Men show up there & stay no longer than 5 or 10 minutes. Since you can get porn on demand via cable TV, I have to wonder if they are engaging in sex with strangers or casual acquaintances. I mean I realize there are over a dozen booths in that place, but when you read on line descriptions of the place they say the men keep the doors to the booths cracked open. I guess they hope someone stops by & they will close the door. It also said the staff purposefully does not make rounds so they will most definitely not catch people in the act. Well that is a description of AIDS central in my metropolitan area. Hey even viruses have got to make baby viruses and this is their ecological niche.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:39pm@disgracedMarine
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/fastfacts-msm-final508comp.pdf
You can find many other stats. Use Google, it aint hard.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:39pm@LOCKED
I think it is obvious to everyone except you, that most of the “costs” Ranger was referring to are not the monetary kind.
Sheeeeeeesh
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:41pmAt Liberalmarine
Not only due gays lead in HIV, but they win 1st place in syphilis too!. They are such overachievers.
“In 2006, 64% of the reported P&S syphilis cases were among men who have sex with men (MSM).”
Report Post »http://www.cdc.gov/std/syphilis/STDFact-MSM-Syphilis.htm
LiberalMarine
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:44pmStill, those numbers dont mean they shouldn’t be allowed in the military. With the statistics you gave me then African Americans shouldn’t be allowed in the service either. It’s ridiculous to discriminate based on those statistics.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:47pm@Locked
Yes, gays have served in the past, so have child molesters, rapist, thieves, murderers….
Now they can serve openly. Now Gay Joe can run to the crime ridden part of town, and openly hang you at the gay bar. Check out the stats on how often gay men change partners, how often they have unprotected sex, how often they have sex while drunk or under the influence of drugs….. The numbers are alarming.
Opening the door to gays, will result in more gays serving, to include more bisexuals. They will be more open. Now if 2% of the population is gay, and they carry 80% of the AIDS, and 64% of the syphilis, what is going to happen to the military in regards to these diseases? Factor in all the other diseases they are more inclined to get, along with their higher rates of molesting children, assaulting each other, committing suicide. tell me how this will help our military in just one way? It is not designed to help, it is designed to destroy and reshape.
Obama stated that he needs a civilian military to carry out his bidding. That costs too much, so why not just break the current military, and rebuild it to suit Obama and his agenda.
Study the brown shirts Hitler used, and the reason they allowed homosexuals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:48pm@Ranger
I didn’t say it was hard, but if you are going to keep posting those stats you should provide a link.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:54pm@Therightsofbilly
It does cost more money to allow them to serve. It has a considerable medical cost. The training that we just did for the entire force, had a cost. It cost time, money, and it costs when good soldiers will now not join.
It cost the nation. Literally. Nations that allow homosexuality to flourish fall. This is not new, has alwasy been that way. Look at European nations that in recent decades have allowed it. See what is happening in Scandinavia. Not only are these nations being wrecked by Islam, the family is falling. When the family falls, the nation falls.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:04pmAt LiberalMarine
“CDC recommends screening of at-risk men who have sex with men (MSM) at least annually for urethral and rectal gonorrhea and chlamydia, and for pharyngeal gonorrhea (1)”
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5826a2.htm
“Objectives:To determine the percentage of positive chlamydia and gonorrhea screening tests among ASYMPTOMATIC HIV-infected MSM by anatomic site and test type.”
http://cdc.confex.com/cdc/std2010/webprogram/Paper21545.html
ASYMPTOMATIC is a scary sounding word. A person has a right to be scared. How can you get treated when you don’t know that you are infected?
Gonorrhea test for MSM at various cities.
http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats08/figures/w.htm
Sure Gonorrhea can be cured. But pain is damage. Get damaged enough times & it will scar enough to cause irreversible damage. Or at the very least you are going to have to pay a lab to grow new semen ducts out of your stem cell & pay a surgeon to put them inside.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:06pm@LiberalMarine
You brought up African Americans, so let us discuss. Funny how libs, progressives, dems want to compare homosexuality to the civil rights of African Americans, and then you throw them under the bus.
Ethnically, blacks have been the fastest growing population of gays in America. In the 50s, American homosexuals were almost exclusively white.
Just last year, of the new AIDS cases in the U.S, black men attributed to 65% (via gay sex). It is one of the stats that gays do not want know. While they try to tell us that gay is genetic, they know better. There is a reason by the alarming rate in which black men turned to homosexuality, and it is tied to environment, not genetics. Because of the democrats and their socialism programs, seven in ten black children are born into single parent homes, and many of these are never raised with a father. More black men go to prison than to college, and they make up 40% of our total prison population. It is behind bars that many black men are introduced to homosexuality. Thus the saying “love on the down low”.
Skin color is benign and no behavioral. Homosexuality is strictly deviant behavior. Bad environment and homosexuality go hand in hand.
Pull out a phone book, look up Independent Baptist Church, they will help you out.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:09pmMilitary Chaplins STAND UP FOR JESUS!!! BO is NOT God!!!!!
Report Post »Locked
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:16pm@Billy
Hi! Good to see you again, and doing more than just trolling my posts. When the first “cost” mentioned is medical, it’s pretty obvious that Rangerp considers the financial implications in his costs.
@Rangerp
HIV disqualifies you from service, and if you contract HIV you are pulled from deployment. Tests must take place biannually, and always happen before a deployment occurs. When having a physical or any kind of surgery with blood involved, HIV can and should be detected (the test takes less than 10 minutes for results). I really don’t think that the HIV rate of homosexuals in civilian life is going to carry over to those serving active duty. Syphilis, while bad, is also curable.
Medically speaking, there is little cost for repealing DADT. On topic, gay marriage in the military would also likely decrease transmission of STDs, as married people (gay or straight) are more likely than the general population to remain monogamous. Indeed, as they can now be open with their relationships, they won’t have to resort to brothels or prostitutes to get their rocks off.
Your moral arguments are spot-on, but any for medical costs or risks are likely inflated, if not completely wrong.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:31pm@Locked
You obviously have little ability to do critical thinking, or apply statistics.
By opening the door to homosexuals, the STD rates will sky rocket. When you lose a soldier getting ready to deply because of AIDS, HIV, or another STD, you lose the money that it took to train him, then have to pay to train another. training is not cheap.
There is no such thing as a “gay” marriage. Marriage is a man and a woman. Anything else is a sick, perverted, twisted, evil relationship.
Are you stupid? Do you lack the ability to look at world history, and not see what is happening in America. We are on the edge, and getting ready to fall. Economically we are crumbling, the family is falling apart, our education system is broke….. And you want to sit back and champion homosexuality in the military. You are an idiot of the highest order. Homosexuals destroy nations, there is no middle ground.
Report Post »RavenGlenn
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:35pm@ RANGERP:
/yawn. Your copy-pasting really gets old. 25% of ALL people in the country participate in Anal sex. It isn‘t just the ’degenerate gays’ or whatever words you decide to use today.
Anyways….this story is stupid. The ruling is that if someone wants to perform the ceremony they can, if not, they don’t have to. It‘s their choice and none of the government’s business. That’s what the country is supposedly founded on folks.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:38pmHi LOCKED,
I never said that Rangerp was not considering the financial implications.
That is why, if you read my post again, you will notice that I included the word “most”, in my statement about the costs involved. Words mean things.
“Most” of the true costs, or consequences of this will rear their ugly heads in the not so distant future. (Pun not intended)
Report Post »Seasoldier
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:48pm@RangerP: well said. Semper Fi
Report Post »Locked
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 1:51pm@Rangerp
“By opening the door to homosexuals, the STD rates will sky rocket. When you lose a soldier getting ready to deply because of AIDS, HIV, or another STD, you lose the money that it took to train him, then have to pay to train another. training is not cheap.”
If they have HIV or AIDS, they are disqualified from joining. If they get it after they just are not deployed (they can still work at whatever station they currently have). Syphilis is curable. So what STDs and training costs are you talking about?
As said, you have a fine moral basis to argue, but your ideas about actual costs (specifically, medical costs) are quite off.
As for the “there’s no such thing as gay marriage” argument, it‘s a No True Scotsman fallacy where you claim your definition is the correct one because it’s yours. According to various state governments, there is indeed gay marriage. Legally, they’re correct; your own moral opinions are your own.
@Billy
Then we agree that Rangerp and I were discussing financial costs? Good! I didn’t argue moral costs because I think Rangerp has the right idea of the conservative Christian view.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 2:24pm@ LiberalMarine
“Still, those numbers dont mean they shouldn’t be allowed in the military. With the statistics you gave me then African Americans shouldn’t be allowed in the service either. It’s ridiculous to discriminate based on those statistics.”
Throw out the gay & bisexual (down low) African Americans & I bet the stats are a lot lower for straight African Americans. So your argument is fallacious.
Also it has been shown that people because of lower socio-economic status who can’t get a spouse are more likely to engage in homosexual sex. I don’t think you can argue that at all. You never do. You just try to argue with rangerrp. I think you are scared to argue.
“Sex on the Margin
by Alex Tabarrok
Sexual preferences are primarily biological in origin. But sexual choice is about preferences and constraints. Raise the price of sex with women and more men will choose to have sex with other men – that’s what happens in prisons.”
http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2005/11/sex_on_the_marg.html
Liberal Marine are you saying that we should keep black people down so that percentage keep on the down low. Is that what you want? Are they engaging in homosexual sex because they really want to or because of socio-economic factors?
I don’t expect you to answer. I half suspect that you are a blogger/activist that copied & pasted a photo of a marine from the internet.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 2:38pm@ Locked
For proof of your assertion that “as married people (gay or straight) are more likely than the general population to remain monogamous. Indeed, as they can now be open with their relationships, they won’t have to resort to brothels or prostitutes to get their rocks off. “ There is ”Tolerance and HIV
Andrew M. Francis and Hugo M. Mialon September 3, 2009″
I somewhat believe in it. Certainly the gay bloggers have trumpeted the study. But perusing their web sites & I think they would cheat at a rate higher than heteros from what I gather reading comments. Still cheating would go down some. What is funny is that the same authors authored another study & all I hear is (crickets) from the gay community. They read only what they want to. That is they are BIGOTSs.
“The Optimal Penalty for Sexually Transmitting HIV Andrew M. Francis and Hugo M. Mialon March 30, 2008″ shows that anal sex is 4 order of magnitude more likely to transmit HIV as ******* sex.
4 orders of magnitudes that is 10,000 times more likely
Well it just goes to show that the ****** was made for sex & the anus wasn’t. Why you have to point out such an obvious fact is pathetic.
Report Post »Badtime
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 2:40pmIf they have a problem with performing the duty that they have been commissioned to perform, then they are more than welcome to resign. Nobody will think less of them for adhering to their faith, but if they wish to continue to collect a government paycheck, then they will do what the government says. That’s how it works – you do what you’re told and you get paid on the 1st and 15th.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:04pm@LOCKED wrote:
@Billy
“Then we agree that Rangerp and I were discussing financial costs? Good! I didn’t argue moral costs because I think Rangerp has the right idea of the conservative Christian view.”
So you are arguing the financial aspects just for the sake of argument?
And you are against gays in the military because of your conservative Christian views?
Please clarify and state your exact positions.
Report Post »HD Veteran
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:07pm@rangerp
Thanks for speaking up for the rest of us, great job.
HD
Report Post »rs9
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:27pmIf you want to know how sick these sob’s are look up bug chaser, gift giver or bug parties
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:38pmThe US military is not place for social engineering experiments. This whole concept is one big fail.
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:43pmrs9
Report Post »OMG that is unbelievable. I never heard of it and I wish I hadn’t.
AlmostaCowboy
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:50pm@RangerP – so, what you‘re saying with those stats is that there’s an “upside” to this? :-)
Report Post »Locked
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 4:07pm@Billy
Report Post »“So you are arguing the financial aspects just for the sake of argument?”
No, I’m arguing them because his assumptions are wrong (costs would not noticeably increase, nor would STD rates). I‘m not arguing against his conservative Christian views because they’re an accurate conservative Christian moral case against repealing DADT.
Locked
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 4:14pm@Walkabout
I‘m not sure if you’re agreeing with my point or not; it seems like you agree, but still think gays are bigots? Sorry if I’m not following. My point is simply that repealing DADT won’t lead to greatly increased medical costs as Rangerp says, because the two diseases he mentions, HIV and Syphilis, are weeded out or curable.
Someone might think I’m championing gay rights here or something… I’m not. I just don’t believe in lying or greatly misrepresenting to make a point. You can certainly make a moral case against repealing DADT, but it’s difficult to make a convincing case about medical cost increases. I’m with Badtime: if you can’t handle working with your fellow soldiers, your fellow Americans, no matter who they are, then you aren’t fit to protect America. There’s no atheists in foxholes; and there’s only soldiers on the battlefield.
Some perhaps more festively dressed than others ;-)
Report Post »Wayne
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 4:48pmAmen.
Report Post »PIL
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 4:59pmSo if Adam wants to hook up with Eve and Britney at the same time what business is it of yours?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 5:12pmAt Locked
I linked a study by researchers who estimated that more openness would lead to fewer AIDS Deaths. Gay groups pointed this out. It became a “Holy Grail” for them. How do you think I found the other study by the researchers. I went to check out their claims & googled the researchers. I found the other study. The gay community likes to talk in scientific terms to give added weight to their arguments, They talk of sero-converting & Phase I, Phase II & Phase III trials. So it is funny nay bigoted when they don’t dig into the stats of the other study by the same researchers.
To glibly say syphilis is curable is wrong. STIs are sometimes asymptomatic. The bugs will dig in & cause damage for a while before you even know they are there. I have seen estimates that 5% of cases are asymptomatic. Also syphilis is not always curable. There are strains of several diseases that are multiple drug resistant. They will spread.
I don’t condone heteros that have many sexual partners either. The Military has put a lot of money into recreation at home base & away so that young soldiers aren’t tempted to fool around. If no other reason the military has done this to cut down on alcohol deaths or discharge due to alcoholism. I would not think that there is as much drinking, drugs or whoring as in the past & that is a good thing.
Report Post »Again, I don’t condone heteros that have many sexual partners either. So it is not just a gay thing, but they are especially egregiou
hechafteth
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 5:15pm@RANGERP
Thank you for putting up the good fight. However this article is even more sinister by the virtue of a predictable response from the military chaplain associations; “NO. As seen by the removal of Christian ethical response to armed conflict by the Air Force Academy, the removal of religious support systems from the military is EXACTLY how these progressive puppeteers plan to shove the “queer army” down America’s throat.
…with jackboots.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 9:04pm@RavenGlenn
Your “yawn” gives you away. If you were bored, you would go to another post. Sound to me like you have a dog in the fight, being you are mostl likely fond of the weeney yourself.
You can dislike my stats, my history, my cutting and pasting. What you can not do, is refute it. truth smacks you between your frisco faggott eyes, and you do not like it.
Tough luck. Queers are a degenerate bunch, they carry much disease, and commit crimes.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 9:12pm@Locked
Check it out dude, I am a 24 year vet, still serving, prior enlisted NCO, currently a field grade officer, with three combat deployments. Not sure if you ever served, but I know a little about deploying a unit, training a unit, sustaining a unit. I have served as a company executive officer, company commander, battalion S3, Battalion Executive Officer. Enlighten me to what jobs in the military you have served? as you seem to be such the expert on how easy it is to replace gay soldiers that just happen to come up hot on their latest HIV screening.
THIS IS THE UNITED STATES ARMY, NOT THE BOY SCOUTS, GIRL SCOUTS, PEACE CORPS. When a soldier can not deploy, it costs. You claim they can just stay behind, and do jobs state side.
I may command an infantry battalion in the very near future. Every soldier in a battalion has a job, a purpose, and is a part of a machine. When you lose that soldier because he has an STD, you lose money. It takes money for Basic, AIT, Specialty Training, unit training…. when you lose him; you need to replace with another soldier. When a 9 man squad loses a couple of soldiers, it hinders their ability to do the job.
THIS AINT SOME FLIPPING CIVIL RIGHTS PLAYGROUND. IT IS THE ARMY.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 9:27pmFor the queer loving, faggott defending, **** supporting savants who cannot seem to absorb truth, reality, and facts.
Of the thousands of soldiers that were kicked out of the military under DADT, do you realize how the majority of their “gayness” was discovered. Of the majority found out to be homosexual, it was not because they came out of the closet to a commander. It was discovered, when they sexually assaulted, or attempted to assault a fellow service member.
guess what? There are a few men left in America, who have not drunk the PC kool aid. Homosexuality is an abomination. It destroys families, it destroys nations. This is not new, it is old. Has happened in the past, and if we continue down the road to accepting homosexuality, it will destroy us.
Years ago I was blessed to work with a big old country NCO from Oklahoma. He was a great NCO and a great American. He took a bullet to the chest a few years back, while in Iraq. I think he said it best. “Sir, how one man can look at another man’s hairy butt and associate it with love, is beyond me.”
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 9:31pm•25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics
•Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, “Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities”
•50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals
•It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us
•Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8).
•37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism
•41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs
39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries
•The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75
•The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 9:31pm•21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things
•50% of the calls to a hotline to report “queer bashing” involved domestic violence (i.e., homosexuals beating up other homosexuals)
•About 50% of the women on death row are lesbians
•33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex
•There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is “SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE.” This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States
•Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor
•73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 9:31pm•Because homosexuals can’t reproduce naturally, they resort to recruiting children. Homosexuals can be heard chanting “TEN PERCENT IS NOT ENOUGH, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT” in their homosexual parades. A group called the “Lesbian Avengers” prides itself on trying to recruit young girls. They print “WE RECRUIT” on their literature. Some other homosexuals aren’t as overt about this, but rather try to infiltrate society and get into positions where they will have access to the malleable minds of young children (e.g., the clergy, teachers, Boy Scout leaders, etc.) (8). See the DC Lesbian Avengers web page, and DC Lesbian Avengers Press Release, where they threaten to recruit little boys and girls. Also, see AFA Action Alert
-•The homosexual agenda includes desensitizing the public: “The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights…..To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion. Ideally, we would have straights register differences in sexual preferences the way they register different tastes for ice cream or sports games….At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full ‘appreciation’ or ‘understanding’ of homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 9:32pmReferences
(1) Advocate, 1985.
Report Post »(2) Bayer, R. Homosexuality and American Psychiatry.
(3) Bell, A. and Weinberg, M. Homosexualities: a Study of Diversity Among Men and Women. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1978.
(4) Cameron et. al. ISIS National Random Sexuality Survey. Nebraska Med. Journal, 1985, 70, pp. 292-299.
(5) “Changes in Sexual Behavior and Incidence of Gonorrhea.” Lancet, April 25, 1987.
(6) Corey, L. and Holmes, K. “Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men.” New England J. Med., 1980, pp. 435-38.
(7) Family Research Institute, Lincoln, NE.
(8) Fields, Dr. E. “Is Homosexual Activity Normal?” Marietta, GA.
(9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275.
(10) Kaifetz, J. “Homosexual Rights Are Concern for Some,” Post-Tribune, 18 December 1992.
(11) Kus, R. “Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay America.” Medical Journal of Homosexuality, 1987, 14(2), p. 254.
(12) Lesbian News, January 1994.
(13) Lief, H. Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, 1977, pp. 110-11.
(14) Manlight, G. et. al. “Chronic Immune Stimulation By Sperm Alloantigens.” J. American Med. Assn., 1984, 251(2), pp. 237-438.
(15) Morton-Hunt Study for Playboy
(16) MsKusick, L. et. al. “AIDS and Sexual Behavior Reported By Gay Men in San Francisco.” Am. J. Pub. Health, 1985, 75, pp. 493-96.
(17) Newsweek, February 1993.
(18) Newsweek, 4 October 1993.
(19) Psychological Re
rangerp
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 9:32pmWhy does the “mainstream press” condemn the Catholic Church for allowing predatory homosexuals to destroy the lives of boys, while simultaneously condemning the Boy Scouts of America for not allowing precisely the same thing in their organization? —
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 9:57pmAnd the LORD said chose this day blessings or curses!
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:09pm@RANGERP
Great post about the Church / Boy Scout comparison
Report Post »jdvo31
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 1:13pmEphesians 5:31 – For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
Genesis 1:27-28 – So God created human beings in his own image. In the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.Then God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and govern it. Reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, and all the animals that scurry along the ground.”
There is no such thing as a homosexual marriage. God certainly doesn’t recognize it and a piece of Worldly “legal” paper doesn’t make it so. Sodomy is sodomy no mater how you change the name, slice it, dice it, label it and PC it.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 4:25pmwhen I first joined the blazed, it seemed that the queers and sodomite lovers dominated these posts, and with their PC talk, ran people off. Seems the tables are starting to turn, and people are getting tired of it and standing up for morality, and truth.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:41amGood, I am glad to see that the members of faith are making a stand for what is right and just in the eyes of God.
Report Post »Cerealface
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:09amGood, I’m glad we make it okay to segregate parts of society.
Report Post »JimCDew
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:21pmHow about coed gay units who live toogether, train together, shower together. Good solution to an unxomfortable situation in the military.
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:54pmcereal
Report Post »They segregate themselves. That is obvious.
jdvo31
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 1:22pmAgreed. The liberal mindset is so confused to think of homosexuality as a “civil rights” issue. No more than the people that engage in bestiality, incest, pedophilia, necrophilia, etc etc etc, ad nauseam should be given special rights. That’s confusion to the highest degree. Whats makes what the homosexual different from the man or woman that decides they want to have relations with their cat? Should this be protected as well? Better not tell PETA.
Report Post »tomahawk85
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:38amBS!!! This LTC said in a nutshell nop big deal BUT the misson goes on….. what a crock of BULL!!! I read that the ACLU and other “GAY” groups plan on suing the military and Govt now for forcing the Military to now allow transvestites and can you believe this cross dressers in the military. Yup just what we need is a bunch of “F’s” running around the barracks in sun dresses, tunics, dresses and high heals. Its time to re-institute the “BUNK Parties” again (for any of you non-military types, thats when in the middle of the night the recipients of the party get the “C” beat out of them…. OMGOSH did I just say that? Did I offend some of you? get over it. Repealing the DADT policy just opened up a bag of worms. Im sorry but America is sinking faster than the Titanic…I fear we are doomed, I give this country 10 to 15 years at the best…..
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:18amSoap in a sock
Report Post »Wayne
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 2:16pmI don’t thank there is any place for these low life ****, I don’t want to be close to one. They are the lowest form of life on this Earth, GOD condemned them to death in Sodom and sent on fire from Heaven and killed them all.
Report Post »stogieguy7
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:34amIt is crystal clear to me that the encouragement of the GLBT lifestyle in the military is all about a Marxist radical undermining our military so that the “old guard” are purged and the remainder is rendered impotent. This is very dangerous and the Radical-in-Chief has set this up in such a way that his replacement next year (God willing) will have a hard time rolling back many of these changes.
So, we’ve been fundamentally weakened. Probably so that in Term #2, Obama can set up his own army – probably run by the black panthers. He is very dangerous and needs to be voted out resoundingly.
Report Post »DanWesson455
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:40amPoor Military Chaplins. O’Bambam has them between a rock and a hard place. Disobey a direct order and face Article 15 punishment under the UCMJ or resign their commissions. What a bunch in D.C. making decisions. DIP WADS Every last one of them.
Report Post »SLARTIBARTFAST
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:25amThe dismantling of our military continues with this gay marriage c**p. Sure, the chaplains don’t have to marry them NOW, but just wait a bit. My brother-in-law was married in the magnificent Air Force Academy Chapel, but the fist time a gay marriage happens there is when it will forever lose that magnificence. This is just as BHO and Moochelle have planned. God help us!
Report Post »closetotheedge
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:34amWTS? Just another brick in the wall. Freedom to worship as ones‘ heart determines to be truth can never be legislated and never by the ’Bed-wetters‘ in Exec and created czars and Biden’s “Who is Van Jones? He‘s leaning hard to communism and the Wall St wanabes’ withSEIU telling them how to create “Chaos and Mayham” again’st Capitalism and our freedoms.Then Oba via order to allow ****/lesb’/transgender/ extremely confused,can now come out. The Armed Forces have allways had laws about sexual and fratranizing among the troops.Congress,not oba’ decides,and i know Congress will kill the bill. Roman soldiers were very open to ****’ with each other and slaves and also as a normal thing from Nero on down. Our nations states that have passed laws for ****-lesb’ marriages along with other anti-family laws are effecting all from pre-school thru 12th and colleges, praiseing the **** and diks for there contribution to our country and NAMBA Men and Little Boys” that it’s all ok and NORMAL!!! These leaders and gov’ minions are traitors to all God-fear‘n people who love our USA and the freedoms we all defend again’st both foriegn and domestic enimies,any attack upon us and our children by indoctrination and brainwashing in any Federal school ciricullum promoting anarchy again’st our liberties and“ Freedom and Right of Conscience” clause for chaplans in the Armed Forces,in the Revised Tittle 10 code. Can’t say the name Jesus unless to curse a noun, but in praise to
Report Post »closetotheedge
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:38amJust plain wrong! Stop the traitors who demand our destruction both from within and worldwide! Fire them. One voice, one vote.
Report Post »tc84
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:20pmThis is the issue. AIDS and other STDs are a symptom, but the problem is that homosexuality is wrong, and allowing some chaplains to perform the marriages is just a step toward forcing them to do so.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:24am“Is the appointment of Chaplains to the two Houses of Congress consistent with the Constitution, and with the pure principle of religious freedom? In strictness the answer on both points must be in the negative. The Constitution of the U. S. forbids everything like an establishment of a national religion. The law appointing Chaplains establishes a religious worship for the national representatives, to be performed by Ministers of religion, elected by a majority of them; and these are to be paid out of the national taxes. Does not this involve the principle of a national establishment, applicable to a provision for a religious worship for the Constituent as well as of the representative Body, approved by the majority, and conducted by Ministers of religion paid by the entire nation?”
–James Madison
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Its time to stop having Chaplins period! They are unconstitutional to begin with so it doesn’t even matter what they think about gay marriage.
Report Post »kpchaos
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:41amthe chaplins in the military do not serve in the houses of congress. they quietly help the soldiers (faced with more than you can imagine) deal with problems either by secular counseling or by religious counseling.
Report Post »SLOWBIDEN
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:53amIts freedom of religion not freedom from religion. I was a lay reader in bootcamp and was thanked for inspiring messages from many of my fellow recruits. No where in the constitution does it say the words “ freedom of religion”. Having chaplains does not hinder you to practice religion. Also, if you don‘t like it don’t join the military. Chaplains serve a great purpose. And I can assure you that “there are no atheists in foxholes.”
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:13amThat’s a ridiulous argument, Butcher, as the same people that created the Consitution had military chaplains. They existed in the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812. If there was a consensus that they were unConstitutional surely the Framers of the Constitution would have been aware of that fact and rectified it.
Your quotation from Madison is apt, which requires the responsory question, “Did the rest of the Framers agree with him? Are there no Chaplains in Congress?” There most certainly ARE, and have been from the beginning. So I guess the overwhelming consensus of Congress and the Courts is that his argument was wrong.
Got anything else?
Report Post »Dudley Do-Right
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:34amIV. Religion and the Congress of the Confederation, 1774-89
Congress appointed chaplains for itself and the armed forces, sponsored the publication of a Bible, imposed Christian morality on the armed forces, and granted public lands to promote Christianity among the Indians. National days of thanksgiving and of “humiliation, fasting, and prayer” were proclaimed by Congress at least twice a year throughout the war. Congress was guided by “covenant theology,” a Reformation doctrine especially dear to New England Puritans, which held that God bound himself in an agreement with a nation and its people. This agreement stipulated that they “should be prosperous or afflicted, according as their general Obedience or Disobedience thereto appears.” Wars and revolutions were, accordingly, considered afflictions, as divine punishments for sin, from which a nation could rescue itself by repentance and reformation.
http://adam2.org/articles/lib_congress_exhibit/rel04.html
Report Post »nurseheidi
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 3:28pmHow dare you suggest that our soldiers not have access to chaplins. It is not Unconstitutional, it is a profound and rich history in this Country. I know you secularists don’t like the truth, but that is the truth. May I ask what you have ever contributed to this nation other than derision? People like you have been trying to “fundamentally transform” this Nation since its inception. Luckily, each time, the people have risen and sent the likes of you and your ilk back to your underground holes. This time will be no exception, we just have a little more work to do.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 5:14pmIt helps going into a war zone to have a chaplain. Have you gone into a war zone?
Report Post »Shotgun167
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 5:25pmAnd why is the federal government involved in marriage AT ALL!! Marriage is a religious union. I don‘t want the feds to have any involvement in who I’m married to, who I live with, or where I put my private parts. Marriage was instituted to protect children. The point was to identify a Daddy to pay for the kids upbringing. Use DNA tests to identify daddies if there is a disagreement (and if the woman won’t tell, she gets NO government welfare), and have dependants for tax purposes. The Constitutional right to freedom of association should eliminate any federal involvement in ANY relationship I choose to have after that.
If you’re going to tell other people how to live, they are going to want to tell you how to live. Let the degenerate schmucks do as they please. Just keep it out of my face.
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:23amYeah I bet our Founding Fathers were all about Gay Marriage and Trans Gendered people after all they were wearing wigs? Marriage is NOT between same sex people!!! I have another “PC” question when the heck did they start calling it the LGBT group???
Report Post »kpchaos
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:35amas a whole, the gay (LG) population doesn’t even make up 1% of the population, so they gathered with other groups (BT) that practice deviant behavior so they could up their numbers. Thus you have the “lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered” community that make up less than 2% of the total population, rather than just less than 1%
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:33amRhetorical question but yeah I agree the “2%” can cause ALOT of issues with the 98%. Similar to what the Athiest movement is causing too…..Believe and do what you want to do but shoving it into someone’s face is NOT acceptable. A Cross is either a representation of a belief or two sticks put together? Can’t wait til the Athiests start protesting all the Vampire movies that have the cross used as a deterant :)
Report Post »cromag11b
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:22amSeeing as I spend all day every day around soldiers; I don’t see any of these problems you all are foaming at the mouth over.
When it comes down to it this has nothing to do with the abilities of our military and is all about your delicate faith.
Report Post »John 3:16
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:37amSeems as though some people have a problem with Judao/Christian values. If you are an athiest you have no firm values and you might be best to join in with the Allah worshipers who have no firm values either.As for the rest of us we are not blind to the fact there is a God and it‘s not Allah and it’s not man.
Report Post »stogieguy7
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:38amNo, it’s all about this being a celebration of an aberrant lifestyle that poses an appalling distraction at a time of war. The military is not a social club, nor is it some laboratory where social experiments should be carried out. It is our first line of national defense.
As for homosexuality: name one species of animal (aside from westernized humans) who pass up members of the opposite sex to mate with the same gender. Can you think of any? So, how is this natural? And don’t say dogs, because one dog rides another as a show of dominance – they are very hetero when it comes to mating.
Report Post »MARCH4HIM
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:12pm@cromag11b
to each his own..But I wonder If you would feel the same way…If a military gay person who was loud and proud of their lifstyle choice,that was the same sex as you, And you both were on a mission that put you two… both…Into a situation that would have you both strip almost naked and huddle together..For body heat to keep from freezing… and then living through the experience…Only to be with your friends and or family get together…. sitting around sharing war stories and that came up…..oh the memories…
I dont think..“ anybody” would choose death from freezing…. in this situation …
When the story is being told…..I’m saying it would be nice to say……….
Report Post »” well.. I didnt know he was Gay…! “
Walkabout
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 2:26pmstogieguy7
That is what animal studies show.
Report Post »mattmo79
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:21amAbout time! When are the men of faith going to fight for religous rights outside the military?
Report Post »Centralsville
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:21amIf we don’t turn this country around and get back to a time when men were men and women were women we are going to continue to go down the sewer. The family is the most basic building block of a society. When it is completely gone we will be gone and our military will be as big a joke as those in Europe.
Report Post »ROMANS 10-9
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:18amSince when is the United States Military
in the marriage BUSINESS?
Fight Wars!
Fighting Wars the purpose
of our armed forces!
“By dishonestly sanctioning
the use of federal facilities
for ‘marriage counterfeits’
that federal law
and the vast majority of Americans
have rejected,
the Pentagon has launched
a direct assault on
the fundamental unit of society
– husband and wife.”
Amen!
Report Post »Falsegods
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:26amGays are another tactic to destroy the family and one step closer to chaos and communism .
Report Post »Sick animals.
Dismayed Veteran
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:33amThe US military has been in the marriage business a long time. I am an Army Brat and Vet who went to weddings at post chapels. Remember, the military families on post have a life too. Not everyone lives off post.
I am proud of our military chaplins. They keep the faith.
Report Post »BrandyWilson
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:18amI hope there is such a back log on unperformed weddings that the whole mess falls apart!…Good Going Righteous Chaplains!
Report Post »cloudsofwar
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:17amobama has his progressives running our military. we are in deep trouble, obama has his people in place for the final takeover. or should i say final solution.
Report Post »Ken
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 2:52pmI can see it now…they‘ll probably rename all the enlisted and officer’s clubs on bases, “The Bird Cage!” Glad I retired in 1993!
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:16am.
Report Post »FUBAR or SNAFU take your pick……………
Dismayed Veteran
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:25amFubar
Report Post »HeyLanny
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:16amNext they will be requiring that Chaplains rewrite their scriptural sermons to accommodate those who disagree with the Bible. I thought we had our hands full in Vietnam, but now the enemy is in the camp.
Report Post »diablosho
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:15amSeems to me they’re speaking up a bit too late. Too bad they didn’t shout from the mountaintops before DADT was repealed. I feel for them though, and I really hope these Chaplains are successful!!! This whole situation is just so embarassing. I am an Air Force vet, and I am glad I got out in October before this whole Fiasco started.
Report Post »Concerned Green Beret
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:15amA couple things here that are very disturbing. 1st this unilateral proclaimation by the pentagon is a direct violation of the federal law. State and local laws have zero to do with this. DOMA specifically prohibits this kind of action, and the military and its bases are clearly federal. The people running the pentagon clearly are running amuk on sticking it to our servicemen and the American people. Who the hell do they think they are???
2nd This is an unlawful order, and the base commanders should say no we will not allow this on our bases, because it is an unlawful order.
3rd this is just the beginning and, all of us who were against the repeal new this type of crap would be coming. This administration is sprinting to do all it can to change the complexion of the country, even if it violates the constitution and/or law. They know they don’t have much time left.
4th the assault against the chaplains has just begun. The chaplains better unit and fast. Otherwise freedom of religion in the military will go away.
Lastly, my hat goes off to the Archbishop and the Rev and all the chaplains who are standing up against this. This is the time to fight not capitulate or hide in a corner.
Report Post »goatrope67
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:27amYou need to reread the statement made by the Pentagon. By saying they “may” peform the services and that they are “not required” to perform the services the Pentagon is not forcing anyone to do anything.
Report Post »Concerned Green Beret
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:01am@GoatRope67, No you need to get some understanding. The Pentagon issued an unlawful order that directs base commanders and head chaplains to violate the DOMA (a federal law). That is, they told Base Commanders you now have to give up your chapels for gay marriages if there is a chaplain who will do the marriage. If there is a chaplain on that base who wants to do the marriages, the head chaplain must also give up his chapel for the marriage (even though that head chaplain believes that marriage to be an abomination). Lastly, the Pentagon basically is saying that even if DOMA says no federal property or employees will be used in Gay marriages we are saying now they can be!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A total violation of federal law, which all military property and military personnel are governed by.
Report Post »Concerned Green Beret
Posted on October 7, 2011 at 7:04am@Goatrope67, one more thing, all officers, NCOs, and soldiers are taught from the beginning of their careers that not only are they not to follow unlawful orders, but they are obligated not to follow them. We will see what this group of Base Commanders do.
Report Post »hi
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:14amIt won‘t be long until chaplains lose their jobs because they won’t marry gays. The gays don’t care about being married. They have 100 sex partners in one night. They care about shutting down the church.
Report Post »goatrope67
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:29amReally? I thought the gay agenda was to make us all wear multi-colored hats made of aluminum foil.
Report Post »acemobile
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:12amArmy Regulation 165-1 states:
1–6. The Chaplaincy and the U.S. Constitution
Report Post »a. The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution prohibits enactment of any law “respecting an establishment of religion “or” prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” Congress recognizes the necessity of the Chaplain Corps in striking a balance between the establishment and free exercise clauses.
b. The Establishment Clause forbids any governmental authority from mandating a religion or way of prayer. In the pluralistic religious setting of the military, Unit Ministry Teams (UMTs) provide opportunities for religious support (worship services, religious classes, prayers, and so forth) for individuals from all religious backgrounds. Chaplains cooperate with each other without compromising their faith tradition or ecclesiastical endorsement requirements, to ensure the most comprehensive religious support opportunities possible within the unique military environment.
c. The Free Exercise clause guarantees individuals the right to practice what their religion requires and conscience dictates.
Nepenthe
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:26amThis policy does not violate anything you have written.
Report Post »ROMANS 10-9
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:28amIt is offensive to Christians and Christ,
for like genetic individuals to join
together and call
it Holy.
It is their Constitutional right to have a
perminant contract together, but it is not their right
to offend the believers in God and Christ by calling it
marriage.
Call it anything you like, just don’t call it Holy Marriage, and
the issue will fade away once and for all.
…. and don’t teach my children that it is an option either.
One Man + One Woman = Holy Marriage
Anything else is an abomination to God.
Report Post »Furthermore, the rainbow is the covenant from God,
that he will never again flood the world, and it is offensive
as a Christain for the sexual deviants to mess with that as well.
cloudsofwar
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:12amHEADLINE: gay marriage in the military. destroyed from within. the progressives are running our military.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:36amWould you say the same about the Israeli military? Israel allows gays to serve openly in their armed service and no one cares and they, we all agree, are a very potent fighting force; one of the best militaries in the world.
I firmly believe that those who protest gays in the military, gay marriage and all the other elements of the so-called “radical homosexual agenda” do so out of a personal inner conflict with their own sexuality. They fear that homosexual acceptance by society might bring out their own tendencies to such conduct and that scares the hell out of them.
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:43amObama has no idea what he has done to the Military and could
Report Post »care less, He just want’s the gay Vote……………..GAWD !!!!!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBAMA-2012
momrules
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 11:20am@MButcher……….We protest homosexual behavior because we all have homosexual tendencies………………The most stupid statement ever made and people have stopped caring about it. The same as people are sick of the race card, no one cares anymore. You may be homosexual and I don’t care, but I believe what the Bible and what common sense tells me. Homosexuality is a perversion and without we normal people you could not exist. Man man sex equals no children,woman woman sex equals no children. Homosexuals need us, we do not need them
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:43pmAt MrButcher
A report by the Israelis on the 2006 Israeli-Hezbollah conflict said that Israel failed to achieve its’ objectives (i.e. They LOST!).
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 12:47pmMrButcher
See the Winograd Commission.
The Israelis enjoyed Air & Naval superiority. Regardless they lost.
So it cannot be said that Israel has gays in the military & they are still successful.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 5:15pmMrButcher
A reply? I guess you got nothing!
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:10amYeah.
Report Post »TxMadMac
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:10amBravo men of faith, STAND !
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:09amThis is crazy. The military leaders who are sworn to uphold the laws of this country are demanding the chaplains violate the laws of this country. There is real trouble brewing in the military.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:18amTo the Military Chaplains….West Point…and all of our honored forces….I salute you…my heroes. Stand blessed under God/Yawvh and for Him.
Report Post »ares338
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:03amLeave it to the military to make a simple thing complicated!
Report Post »NuffSaid
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:02amFinally-Soldiers with guts!
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:08amIt was bad enough with Col. Powell and his affirmitive action “agenda”, now this. DADT should have never been questioned. Now its going to cost me more tax dollars we don’t have to sort this mess out. You can’t force a man of faith to act against his beliefs.
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 10:12amFunny, how a man will lay down his life for his country, but is afraid to go against an illegal order.
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