New Video: Minutes After Muslims Under 50 Allowed to Participate in the Friday Prayers They Throw Rocks at Jewish Worshipers Praying at the Western Wall
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Muslims threw rocks at Jewish worshipers praying at the Western Wall after Friday’s Muslim prayers. Police arrested three Muslim attackers. The violence occurred after security forces decided to allow Muslims under the age of 50 to participate in Friday prayers. Usually, men younger than 50 are barred from praying on the Mount if there is an intelligence assessment that riots are being planned. The incident was captured on the Western Wall Heritage Funds Kotel cam. Worshipers can be seen fleeing 11 seconds into the video.
The Palestinian Authority has demanded control of the Temple Mount be handed over to it, and there have been reports that U.S. President Barack Obama supports this idea. However, incidents like the one on Friday have convinced many in Israel that the Muslims would not honor the rights of other religions if they were given power over the holy sites
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dupaws
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:43pmLibertariansUnite
Report Post »I do not know what rock you crawled out from under. But the Iews are our allies,
and the Muslims are not just fighting and killing Jew, they are fighting us and killing us as well. God will deal with the Muslims, and you do not know your bible do you? God does not change, what He said about leave them along, He meant, and that still stands.
Talmid of Yeshua
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:52pm@ LibertariansUnite:
Don’t twist the “New” Testament, which I call the Apostolic Scriptures. You are in need of a history lesson. Torah-observant Jews wrote the “New” Testament. Learn your history. There is nothing new about the “New” testament. It is just fulfilling many of the prophecies found in the Tanakh.
Report Post »dupaws
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:13pmTalmid of Yeshua
Report Post »I agree with you LibertariansUnite does not know what he is saying. By the way LOVE THE FLAG, Coming from NC you can see why.
LibertariansUnite
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:48pmYou guys are ignorant of Jesus’s teachings.
You know many jews back during Jesus’s time thought that when the messiah came he would LITERALLY free them for their “enslavement” from the Romans. They were wrong, that is what formed the zealous sect of Jews. Jesus came to bring Christianity, or God, to all the people, because the Jews had made it a law system, instead of making it about the individual relationship with God.
There are many examples of Jesus turning the other cheek, in fact the Roman’s nabbed Jesus and he commanded his disciple (after cutting one of their ears off) to step down.
Don’t believe war monger propaganda. If the Jews in Israel wanna kill Muslims, and the Muslims want to kill the Jews, allow them to do so. Furthermore, Israel would not be in existence, if it were not the reestablishment of their state by the U.S.
Their is plenty of hate and violence in the world, getting worked up over it costs us lives and money. Let us not make that foolish mistake anymore.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:28pm@Talmid of Yeshua
Report Post »Love your flag! It is that of several of my ancestors.
Thevoice
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:31pmLibertariansUnite …There is one huge hole in your thinking…History has yet to be written..So we could get a backbone and defend our freedom and rid the world of the scourge of Islam and its growing evil…Or 200 years form now they can talk about how the great Satan was defeated and did nothing because it was weak and spineless…Looking back is great to learn ideas and wisdom..Looking forward and realizing the sword is about to land on your neck is another..The Jews and Christians were powerless against the Romans…We are not well at least to this point .Powerless ..We have the ability to send those that believe in the death of America the Death Of Israel to their virgins..So what the hell are we waiting for,,,A nuke strike from Iran…So don’t cower form the thought of destroying your enemy…
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:37pmThen instead of complaining on a forum about sending our boys to go kill muslims, you quit your job, and enlist in the Israeli Military.
If you are not willing to fight, then don’t tell other people to go fight.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:53pmI love the way when muslims fight what they perceive to be defense wars you call it murdering americans.When we go to war its never murdering anybody though we’ve murdered tortured displaced and destoyed hundreds of thousands and propably millions of lives without as the great american reverend Wright says “batting an eye.”Till those uppity muslims resisted our unjust meddling in their homelands.Now we‘re appaled at their violance though we havn’t stopped murdering people throughout the last century and for ten years into this century.Boy your righteous indignation at their violence is as hypocritical as it gets. And everybody knows it.
Report Post »Talmid of Yeshua
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:42pmBottom line, and I’m sure this comment will be removed: The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:50pmIt’s the only peaceful ones, that’s for sure.
Report Post »Cherynn
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:52pmThey’re not even good then, they just lay around and stink up the place.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:46pm“Genocide may be too extreme, but the Idealology of Islomofascism must be completely eradicated from the face of the earth.”
The same could be said of Christianofascism…or any fascism really. Why pick and choose?
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:52pmWow!
How do you creeps sleep at night?
I hope there are no small children living with you that you spout this filth at…
Certain elements of the American Right have turned into clans of bigots and raving genocidal christo-fascists (see the postings of upstatenynazi).
Get help before you hurt someone!!
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:53pm@The Third Archon
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:46pm
All you pompous, self-righteous, sanctimonious, holier-than-thou liberals who attack Christians and ONLY Christians–you’re more worthless than a 9=peso wooden coin. You puny little liberals think yourselves so high and mighty. In the end, really, you’re not only worthless, but useless.
You liberals back perverts like Weiner; you liberals are all for NAMBLA–a bunch of vermin who think it’s okay to rape little boys—YOU liberals are all for that. And don;t try lying that you’re not, because I see you liberals all the time in all your sick demented ways.
You liberals, every one of you, are nothing but filth.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:14pmFirst off, Weiner was soliciting/having sex with women, not little boys.
Second off ad hominem much? I don’t think there was an argument in that entire rant.
Third off, I attack Christianity most because:
Report Post »1) It is the dominant religion in the western experience and the most likely religion to result in theocracy here (I’m sorry but no Muslim Caliphate is going to emerge in America when ~0.5% of the populace is Muslim)
2) Christianity is the religion I have the largest contextual knowledge of, having been a Christian at one point and coming from a family of Christians and Mormons (unless you consider them the same, which in some respects they are and others not)
3) I think ALL religions, indeed ANY belief which is not warranted by evidence, to run contrary to the principles of natural law, causality, logic, and human reason. Faith is itself a paradox, because you have no more reason to faithfully believe (i.e. believe prima facie) in one religion over another if you’ve discarded empirical evidence as a standard of judgment. Once you base your acceptance of facts on any basis other than empirically demonstrated casual relationships, you’ve lost not only all credibility and touch with reality, but also any way to judge between the true and the false–if one person can stand up and say “because God x”, why can’t 1,000,000 other people do it with equal legitimacy? There has to be a higher standard for belief than hearsay or appeals to authority.
Rstryker27
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:42pmJerusalem was the holy city of the Jewish people long before there was any such thing as a Muslim or a Christian for that matter. This Hell spawn “ religion” of Islam has produced billions of barbarians intent on killing and destruction. When they begin to behave like normal religions people ( including peaceful normal Muslims) then they should be treated as such. Until then , open fire and be done with them.
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:42pmKeep dreaming you can pray this away..We should have prayed 9/11 to have the strength and will to destroy these people….Then done it …Face facts weather it’s here or somewhere else this is never going away. The good lord supplied us the tools we needed to destroy our enemy ..but we decided to self gratify ..instead…This will never end and we will never get a grip on our problems until the day we come together and put our boot on the Islamic neck till it breaks …If you believer otherwise your crazy….Sorry I don’t want future generation of Americans living in fear or worst control under these people..Glenn wouldn’t like it…But …Seriously we need a leader to step forward take control and finish this first. And if that means making a big pile of dead Mooselambs so the hell be it..Do it quick finish them off rid the world of their hate and evil and move on….
Report Post »Talmid of Yeshua
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:49pmI’m Jewish, and I know the Crusaders didn’t care for the Jews too much either, but I like your avatar. The world needs to start our only holy war, the 3rd Crusades need to be begin against Islam. We must destroy this religion at all cost.
Report Post »lexingtonmuster
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:40pmI would go over and fight with the IDF!
Report Post »HairRazor
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:13pmWhere do we sign up?
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:33pmWhile it‘s true I’m a major pain, I would never sneak-attack a man or woman who is in prayer, no matter his or her religion.
It’s just wrong, on every possible level, to harm a person during prayer.
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:38pmBut it’s not wrong to wish them death?
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:48pmHey liberalMoron, you are no Marine. An intolerant society can never coexist with a tolerant society, put that in your liberal pipe and smoke it. Faker. Death to all those who are against freedom!!
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:56pmHey Jerkoff, I have been a Marine for 4 years. Which is 4 years longer than 99% of the rest of the population. So say what you will, but I’ll wake up and put the uniform on in the morning and still not support wiping out an entire religious group.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:59pmThey are not a religious group, they are the enemy and liberals are falling in line with them, moron.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:02pmI‘m always open to kill a group of people that wish my country death or an ally country’s death, that’s called reality son.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:04pmsadly, obviously, a little mindless obama follower who put on the USMC uniform for the cash benefits. no one can argue with it, and we can just pray it doesn‘t frag the rest of the unit because of it’s communist beliefs.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:08pm@LiberalMarine
F you and your petty little sniping. You’re a liberal, so you don‘t rate anywhere far as I’m concerned. If liberals come dime-a-dozen, we’re being overcharged. Liberals are penny bubblegum that the store sells for a nickel. And, worse, liberals actually think they’re somehow valuable.
Liberals are like what I flush down my toilet: There is nothing clean about them.
Report Post »JJBlazeReader
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:09pm..
Remember your oath Marine or do consider it optional.
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:18pmI just wanted to know if you think it’s okay to want an entire group of people to die.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:18pmIf you are a product of the “new” Marine Corps, we are really in trouble, but I highly doubt you are a Marine now, either way, it‘s sad and you’re a coward.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:24pmNo you don’t kill them all, we get Nerf rifles and shoot them with Nerf bullets and let them run us over and chop our heads off for being infidels, don‘t worry you’ll be safe though because apparently you’d convert no problem, you’re a liberal, what other choice would you have?, you already enjoy being a serf.
Report Post »JJBlazeReader
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:32pm..
Liberalmarine – if an entire group is the enemy of the U.S. – what do you think the answer should be? What does your oath tell you or why did you even bother to take the oath if you have no intention of abiding by the oath.
Marine, if you are one, we weren’t exactly kind to the Germans and Japanese in WWII. When fighting fanatics, you kill them before they kill you. I am sorry to say that I would not want you fighting by my side and if you are deployed to the field I would be very concerned about your fellow Marines.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:49pmYes, ALL Muslims EVERYWHERE wish death upon the United States and the Jews. Ignore all of the many examples to the contrary. What a remarkably well organized and faithful people Muslims are if they are able to unite and keep all their members adherent, not only to a singular ideology, but a very personally demanding one at that. It’s interesting how THEY are able to do something no other ideology, even totalitarian ones, has ever been able to do–unify believers. I guess the Shiite and Sunni didn‘t have a civil war in Iraq and extremists from both don’t kill each other on a semi-regular basis–or is that all just a clever ruse?
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:51pm@BOB_R_OATHKEEPER
You should kill yourself to re-claim any semblance of honor.
How dare you insult and question the record of service of one of America’s finest! What have you done with YOUR life? Did YOU go into the armed services?! If not, then you have no right to talk, and if so (which is so obvious that you didn’t, otherwise you would have learned virtue and espirit de corps) then you are a shame on all the teachings of the military.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:13pmThe Third Archon – Hey another wuss, you want to share your real name too like I did above? Or are you just another liberal coward? I busted a fake Marine, LOL, and that upsets you?
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:13pmSir you wear that uniform in defense of our nation …You don’t put it on to be a policemen.. There in is the problem .You have a navy marines army and air force for one purpose ..Make surrender kill and defeat a enemy.Not police and spread good will…Sir one clear message should have been sent to the Islamic world ..When you see our armies surrender to them or die for your religious beliefs..That’s it clear and simple…Then Military leaders would have had no problem determining who the enemy was…Problem solved..Instead we put you there as a policemen to be blown to bits by Islamic Muslims making IED”s in Iran…Not too smart…
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:35pm@The Third Archon
If 1.2 billion Moslems want to kill you and me, but only one Moslem doesn’t go that route, liberals will screech, “See! It’s not all of them, you racist!”
You liberals really think you’re the pinnacle of all things. But, really, you’re not.
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:46pmMaybe marine is bhaub or liberal atheist writes a lot like him.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:06pm@let us prey
Liberals are just so worthless to me, even less than what I flush.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:49pm@BOB_R_OATHKEEPER
LIBERALMARINE
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:56pm
Hey Jerkoff, I have been a Marine for 4 years. Which is 4 years longer than 99% of the rest of the population. So say what you will, but I’ll wake up and put the uniform on in the morning and still not support wiping out an entire religious group.
I take him at his word–the very fact that you would think it relevant and acceptable to question his service on the basis that he disagrees with you politically is sickening and reveals the depths of your hypocrisy, depravity, and stupidity.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:50pmAnd the crickets go chirp… chirp… chirp….
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:55pmThe Third Archon -“I take him at his word”
Good for you, you took Obama for his word too didn’t you? Liberals have proven time and time and time again, you can not take them for their word, much like muslims, the ends justify the means, moron.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:59pm@UPSTATENYCONSERVATIVE
Report Post »“If 1.2 billion Moslems want to kill you and me, but only one Moslem doesn’t go that route”
That’s a gross exaggeration with zero evidence. Pray tell, if they are all so radical then why do only a portion of them act on it? Are the others less radical or are they just waiting and if so, for what? You’re attributing a remarkable amount of coordination and loyalty among an ideology/religion that the evidence would suggest is just as fragmented as every other ideology/religion. You offer no evidence as to how not only are they all so coordinated and unified that they all (or even a majority or even a plurality as large as 30%–actual radicalization is much lower if you read DOD Papers) uncategorically wish death upon the West, AND have somehow managed to keep this giant conspiracy under wraps–not a SINGLE defector has let on that all the “moderates” are just waiting to kill us. That’s absolutely ridiculous and only a lunatic would believe it. No one would argue that there aren’t violent Muslims, but if you think they’re the number one threat to America then you not only greatly overestimate their strength (only ~0.5% of the U.S. Population is Muslim, or are they lying too?) but prove yourself to be disconnected with reality and should have no place determining the course of this country. My only solace is that Glenn’s following is a small portion of the fringe right that most regard credulously as the proto-fascists they are.
The Third Archon
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:07pm@BOB_R_OATHKEEPER
Report Post »Ignore my point–it’s impossible to refute.
If you’re going to drag Obama into this out of nowhere, for the record, he’s done most of the mildly leftist things he promised he would do; reform healthcare in a mildly sort of leftist kind of way (mildly leftist in the same way purple is mildly blue), handled the economy in a mildly leftist kind of way (some spending, not as much where it should be, too much where it shouldn’t be, and not enough tax reform, by which I mean taxing rich people something approaching what they were taxed in the 50′s, or really at ANY OTHER POINT in our nation’s history), been mildly supportive of gay rights (he got around to DADT…eventually), and been solidly and laudably Leftist on education (reforming the student loans industry, which is still a racket, but at least now it’s a public racket with the possibility of having the racketeered debt forgiven in exchange for much needed public service). So as a Leftist, I‘d say I’m mildly satisfied by Obama’s job–certainly he’s done better than any idiot the Republicans could have fielded. And 2012 isn’t looking very appealing for Republicans either, so I will most likely vote for Obama again then. Has he been perfect? No, but then I’m a free market Socialist, so I‘ll never be wholly pleased with the candidates I’m offered that have a realistic chance of winning until there is major electoral reform.
Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:18pmThe Third Archon – You sure can spew the B S, that’s for sure, you are worried about Glenn’s followers? LOL, ignorance is truly bliss in your case, won’t be forever though. The modern day Jew or Christian is no comparison to followers of Islam, they follow evil, Satan, whatever you want to call it or even if you choose to not believe, it doesn’t care what you believe, you’ll be pushed to one side or the other, I could care less which. I judge people by their words and actions, you apparently don’t, too bad for you. AN INTOLERANT SOCIETY CANNOT COEXIST WITH AN INTOLERANT SOCIETY, what part of that do you not understand?
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:27pmConsidering how incoherent you are it‘s a wonder I’m able to understand any of it.
I‘m not worried by Glenn’s followers–it’s a proto-fascist movement that’s doomed to failure and history is replete with examples of this (Know-Nothings, nativists, the KKK, etc.). You’ll be back in another form too someday, and be just as irrelevant then. I do hope to save as many reasonable people as can be saved, for I was once as blind as you are now.
No rational person can honestly believe (nor does the Qur’ran, despite cherry-picked examples, of which things equally awful can be found in both the New Testament (1 Corinthians 14:34 “And the women shall be silent in the churches, etc.”) and the Old (see Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Judges, really take your pick, and you can find countless examples of God “dashing the infant from the womb” or burning cities wantonly, or people beating each other to death with rocks for being a “heathen” before God and other equally barbaric things), necessitate all Muslims be extremists) that an entire faith of people ~1 billion strong wake up every day and ask themselves how they can serve Satan and make the world a worse place. They, with the exception of violent ones which exist in every group, like Christians, Jews, and everyone else, do what they think is right and will make the world the best place it can be. We all have very different conceptions of what that requires, but this dehumanizing absolutism is patently absurd.
Report Post »JJBlazeReader
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:32pm..
Report Post »..
Third Archon,
You can take him at his word but I do not believe he or she is a Marine. A real Marine would have been very upset at what I said to him. He failed that test. I got a non-reaction on his oath. Also, he should have jumped up said he was not a coward and his fellow Marines can always count on him.
Try this third archon, next time you are at a bar have someone play or start singing the Marines Hymn. See how many guys jump up stand at attention and starting singing. There is never an ex-Marine.
The Third Archon
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:47pmThat USMC Oath doesn’t say anything about genocide or killing all Muslims–just obeying the Constitution, the President, and superior officers. I don’t know how you think this amounts to him having “failed” a conclusive test for “Marine-ness.”
Besides which, you don’t have a right to question his service. That’s the whole point–it‘s irrelevant to the discussion at hand and it doesn’t change any argument he makes. The fact that you think it’s acceptable to question it at all is a lapse of reason and very disrespectful to the Armed Services of the United States. Do you question the war record of every conservative who has a username that includes “Marine,“ ”Seaman,“ ”Airman,” or something similar. It may surprise you that a diversity of opinion exists in this country, including in the military, and that liberals and conservatives both want the same thing–the best for the country, they simply disagree about the means. Very few people go through the effort to participate in our political process out of genuinely malicious intentions. It’s hypocritical to say “We support the troops” (something you conservatives like to boast about), then to question the loyalty and valor of any individual member of that group that doesn’t conform to your preconceived notion of what political ideology “the troops” ought to hold.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:59pmThe Third Archon – You know nothing of oaths, you definitely know nothing about Marine Corps honor, you’re pathetic. Did you know the democrats started the KKK also? probably not, you’re ignorant.
Report Post »JJBlazeReader
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:01pm…
third archon
Boy, what an inane post. You do nothing but show me your ignorance.
First of all I said what if a group was an enemy, what does the oath say? You are being plain stupid to say what you said as a response on this matter. You can’t pass basic reading comprehension.
The rest of your post is just verbiage and liberal gobbledygook.
You know not of what you speak.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:06pm@BOB_R_OATHKEEPER
The Democrats did not “start” the KKK–they were founded by ex-Confederates during the Reconstruction in order to harass freedmen, and evolved into an extremist right-wing organization. This misconception. willfully propagated by people like Glenn Beck, comes from the fact that SOUTHERN DEMOCRATS, who would be DINO’s now (back then the Democrats, WERE the conservatives–it was considered radical to be an abolitionist, as they largely represented the SOUTH, which as you might astutely note, is now represented by REPUBLICANS). Please stop talking–you look stupider every time you do.
@JJBLAZEREADER
Report Post »Muslims are not, as a group, an enemy of the United States of America–YOU can’t pass a basic reading comprehension test if you didn’t gather that from my last 3 or so posts (you can’t write either, because you don’t “pass” reading comprehension, you pass a test ABOUT something, like reading comprehension–as you wrote it, it isn’t even a complete sentence). INDIVIDUAL Muslims, just like individuals of ANY group that are violent towards the U.S. or its interests, are enemies of the United States, and it falls to the Armed Services to destroy them when ordered to do so. However, you’re really, really clueless if you think EVERY single Muslim is in on a grand conspiracy to destroy us all–for reasons I’ve shown. If you can’t accept that, then you‘re hopeless and won’t be swayed by reason.
JJBlazeReader
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:34pm..
Third Archon
You again fail in your response and continue to look stupid. My premise was if the group was an enemy what does the oath say. Your reply blathered on and on about nothing.
You cannot admit that you were wrong instead you change the premise and starting talking about Muslims as a group are not an enemy and I want to kill all Muslims.
You resort to the old ploy of when you lose an argument shift the emphasis away from the premise and/or change the subject which is exactly what you do.
Any soldier or Marine, especially those who underwent the baptism of fire, would have known exactly what I was getting at.
You simply want to write liberal diatribes that you believe makes you sound good and superior to others when the fact is you are clueless and illogical.
Report Post »JJBlazeReader
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:07am..
Signing off for the night but just a few examples of how when Third Archon loses an argument he shifts the emphasis away from the premise and/or changes the subject.
In Third Archon’s post of June 12, 2011 at 8:47PM he wrote:
“That USMC Oath doesn’t say anything about genocide or killing all Muslims–just obeying the Constitution, the President, and superior officers.”
None of my posts said anything about genocide or killing all Muslims instead Third Archon fabricates a straw man argument. Also note Third Archon fails to answer the premise that if a group is an enemy of the U.S. the oath clearly states a Marine’s obligation and duty.
Third Archon continues with more liberal gobbledygook and states
“Do you question the war record of every conservative who has a username that includes “Marine,“ ”Seaman,“ ”Airman,” or something similar.”
Liberalmarine said he was a Marine. My premise had nothing to do with his username. So third archon has to change the subject and premise to one as if I was questioning others. Doesn’t work third archon, you look foolish.
More liberal gobbledygook and states
“It’s hypocritical to say “We support the troops” “
Where and when did I say I do not support the troops why bring this into the discussion. Third Archon trying to wrap yourself in the flag doesn’t work
Report Post »JJBlazeReader
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:10ampart ii
Archon then continues,
“then to question the loyalty and valor of any individual member of that group that doesn’t conform to your preconceived notion of what political ideology “the troops” ought to hold.”
The USMC oath has nothing to do with ideology. Third Archon brings political ideology into where it does not belong which illustrates he knows nothing about the oath or service. I repeat, the oath has nothing to do with ideology, who is President or who controls Congress etc. Third Archon you look ridiculous in your attempt to wrap yourself in the flag.
The Liberalmarine asked
“I just wanted to know if you think it’s okay to want an entire group of people to die.
My reply was
Liberalmarine – if an entire group is the enemy of the U.S. – what do you think the answer should be?
Third Archon you probably still don’t get it. You are too highly indoctrinated to be able to think for yourself.
Night all
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:24am“You again fail in your response and continue to look stupid. My premise was if the group was an enemy what does the oath say.”
Report Post »You kill them–DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
If that really is your only point, that we should kill our enemies, then bravo sir–you are arguing with yourself because no one will contest that self-evident fact. If, on the other hand, you are implying that “our enemies” is not just those Muslims actively engaged in armed conflict or plots to engage in violent conflict with the United States, but ALL MUSLIMS everywhere, then my original arguments, none of which you’ve addressed (choosing instead to make fun of them–big man, takes a lot of intellectual work to do that), still stand. Because I’m increasingly convinced that you are mentally retarded, I will repeat them hear for you:
1) You haven’t definitively proven anything in the ideology of Islam that makes it compulsory for each and every single member to be violently opposed to all non-Muslims.
2) You have definitively shown that Islam, unlike every other ideology in the world, is somehow able to control all of its adherents such that they all obey, through compulsion or choice, the doctrine even if you HAD proven it ” makes it compulsory for each and every single member to be violently opposed to all non-Muslims,” which you haven’t. No other ideology is so rigorously adhered to–they tend to mutate as they expand and lose the ability to control every member.
The Third Archon
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:33am3) Even if Islam were able to exert this mystical control over so many people in different places–how come in ~1300 years we’ve never ever ever had any evidence to believe they are all plotting against us? Or maybe not even all, but an overwhelming number far larger than the numbers actually show. How could substantially more Muslims than are radical now be deceiving us for so long, and secondarily why would they–why wouldn’t they have acted previously, for example why would they have sold us oil until we built a military and economic machine that is unassailable? Why didn’t they stop long before this happened? Why are they split into two separate, often hostile factions? Another trick?
“None of my posts said anything about genocide or killing all Muslims instead Third Archon fabricates a straw man argument. Also note Third Archon fails to answer the premise that if a group is an enemy of the U.S. the oath clearly states a Marine’s obligation and duty.”
Report Post »The root of the problem is that you are either intentionally or out of stupidity misunderstanding the point of your argument that I take exception to. I’m not arguing the self-evident fact that Marines should kill the people who are obviously enemies of the United States and have been labelled as such by superior officers (i.e. the specific Muslims and non-Muslim Arabs who attack us in the Middle East and elsewhere, or anyone who attacks us for that matter). What I take exception to is the implication un
The Third Archon
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:41amunderlying your argument that “the Muslims” are united in terms of their opinion and actions towards us. By extension of your argument, that would mean we are at war with all Muslims, but the morality of that (which you are right you never explicitly said “we are at war with–kill all Muslims”) is not what I want to argue. I want to argue the premise the Muslims are any more a unified group than Christians, or any other ideology/religion. You see, the word “Muslim” by virtue of referring to an ideology, is a very vague concept referring to people who believe themselves to have a common bond of religion. But there is, like any religion or ideology, actually a tremendous amount of theological diversity and personal autonomy involved and what being a “Muslim” means is very different from person to person. Yes, some DO commit violence, quite possibly even in higher proportion than other religions contemporaneously (if you assert that you’d do best to offer evidence). And those individuals should be fought against and killed if necessary for their actions. But that doesn’t PROVE that Muslims, as a GROUP, are necessarily like that, because like other ideological GROUPS, they aren’t so unified and organized as that would imply–or at least there has been no evidence offered to suggest that.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:50amYou say:
Report Post »“None of my posts said anything about genocide or killing all Muslims instead Third Archon fabricates a straw man argument. Also note Third Archon fails to answer the premise that if a group is an enemy of the U.S. the oath clearly states a Marine’s obligation and duty.”
Yet you clearly imply all Muslims and/or Arabs are a unified group with respect to thought and action,
here:
“Then THE ARABS should not have started the wars (plural) against Israel. To put it in vernacular terms, THE ARABS want a do-over. After they get their land back then THEY will try again to destroy Israel [because that's just what Muslims do right?]. Your obfuscation of the problem doesn’t work.”
here:
“if AN ENTIRE GROUP is the enemy of the U.S. – what do you think the answer should be?”
and here:
“Marine, if you are one, we weren’t exactly kind to THE GERMANS AND JAPANESE [the analogy being that they are equivalent to Muslims/Arabs] in WWII. When fighting fanatics, you kill them before they kill you.”
This last example is especially illustrating of your fallacy, because we WEREN’T at war with “the Germans” or “the Japanese,” we were at war with the States of Germany and Japan, specifically their military forces. It was, and is still, considered heinous to deliberately target the civilians of those states or any other without a necessary military goal that cannot be achieved any other way. It would also have been heinous to have rounded up the Germans and Japan
The Third Archon
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:59amJapanese and executed them (and most rational sane people consider the internment of the Japanese an unnecessary and unethical act, Korematsu v. United States or no). Why weren’t we at war with the Japanese and Germans? Because that’s obviously ridiculous, as ridiculous as the suggestion that we are at war with Islam.
Next you say:
Report Post »“Liberalmarine said he was a Marine. My premise had nothing to do with his username. So third archon has to change the subject and premise to one as if I was questioning others. Doesn’t work third archon, you look foolish.”
Again, either through stupidity or intent missing the point of why I pointed that out. My point is that you questioned whether or not “liberalmarine” had ever been a Marine–here:
“Marine, IF YOU ARE ONE, we weren’t exactly kind to the Germans and Japanese…”
as well as that being the implication of your, and numerous others’, criticisms of “liberalmarine”–you attacked his service record INSTEAD of engaging with his arguments. THAT’s what I took exception to–your unfounded belief that someone COULDN’T be both a “liberal” and a “marine” (in fact I know several). My point with the example usernames (I‘m obviously aware he’s a marine you moron, the examples are analogies) is that you don’t USUALLY attack people with those usernames–only when they are LIBERAL, do you attack their military credentials, because you are engaging in the fallacy known as “No True Scotsman”–no “true” marine w
The Third Archon
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 2:07amwould be “liberal”, therefore “liberalmarine” cannot be a Marine. But that’s not a proof–you haven’t proven, through empirically established causal relationships, that liberalism and being a marine are necessarily mutually exclusive, and therefore the conclusion you arrive at does not follow from your premise (also your nonsense about “him not reacting” in some way you expected a marine should, doesn‘t prove he’s not a marine just because, as in the previous example, he doesn’t conform to your preconceived prejudice as to “what a ‘true’ marine ought to be”).
You say:
Report Post »“Where and when did I say I do not support the troops why bring this into the discussion. Third Archon trying to wrap yourself in the flag doesn’t work”
It’s not so much what you said, but how you act–you by definition do not categorically “support the troops” if you only support those which conform to your preconceived notion (which you haven’t proven is necessarily how all “real” troops must essentially be–empirical evidence points, contrarily, to a diverse range of political ideologies among both American troops, and troops throughout history). I am pointing out that it is hypocritical to claim to support the troops, a common conservative claim, and to turn around and question the war record of an individual member of “the troops” (which isn’t/wasn’t salient to the discussion) when they are of a political ideology different than your own. You should say “I support the c
The Third Archon
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 2:13amYou can disagree about POLITICS when that’s what you are discussing with service members without attacking their service record (and thus undermining the claim that you categorically support the troops), but that’s not what you, and many here, chose to do.
You go on to say:
Report Post »“The USMC oath has nothing to do with ideology. Third Archon brings political ideology into where it does not belong which illustrates he knows nothing about the oath or service. I repeat, the oath has nothing to do with ideology, who is President or who controls Congress etc. Third Archon you look ridiculous in your attempt to wrap yourself in the flag.”
You are absolutely right–ideology DOESN’T have anything to do with service in the Armed Forces; such service should be above such conflict, yet it is YOU who questioned (though admittedly not the FIRST to do so here I believe) his SERVICE not his POLITICS, on the basis of his IDEOLOGY, so it is YOU who brought the ideology into the service. Incidentally, you are wrong about the who is President and who controls Congress not mattering to service, because who your commander-in-chief is, and Congress’ views on the acceptability and necessity of war in any given situation, is highly likely to influence what the servicemember is commanded to do UNDER THE OATH.
JJBlazeReader
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 8:51am..
Third Archon
There is no need for me to reply because your vitriolic rant proves my point!
ROFL
Report Post »RN MOM
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:26pmOf course the libs will find no reason to curtail their allegiance with those animals. It really doesn’t matter to them that jews are being stoned at the western wall, so Israel is wasting its time trying to appeal to the intellect of the libs in this world. It has been demonstrated time and again that at each opportunity to give respect to other religions, the muslims just don’t have it in them. Dome of the Rock, St Joseph’s tomb are just two places they have desecrated in the name of their religion.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:32pmThe history of the christian west is as bloody as that of arab /muslims.probably more.Our women and children have been legally brutalized through the history of chrisendom and today in this country there is much violence toward women and children,Publically and legally they are well treated but in private, behind closed doors there is alot of brutality and violence toward them.And in the name of Americanism[our real religion] we have been bombing people throughout the past century and into this century.You just have no interest in counting the dead that result when we go warring.Your professed concern for the plight of women and children is muslim countries is faux humanitarianism since you wish to kill em all.You never cared one way or the other about them till they got uppity by fighting back our incursions in their lands.You underestimated them because they were backward and totally“ other”; you were also taken aback by their peaceful arab spring wishing to topple dictatorship.You cling to a view of them as barbaric and primitive and though culturally there is alot of that in the mid east, it is not all of that and it is not islamic but pervasive in patriarcal cultures throughout the world.Right now they’re at war with the israeli occupiers, american invaders yet also they are rising up against dictators.If you wern’t so hateful and genocidal you would recognize that we too in the west have a murderous history and are that way now towards them and that culture can cha
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:23pmRemember now–American liberals are okay with this. But if a TSA guys asks a Moslem for his passport…
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:28pmNothing wrong with asking a Muslim for his pasport. The problem is when after being screened throughly, he gets thrown off a plane because his fellow passengers want him off. This is a nation of laws? It’s american style racist naziism,pure and simple. And those palestinians are occupied and resistng illigal occupation.You would have them be like the right wings much hated and falsely maligned French “surrender monkeys”?The Israeli occupation [through conquest in 67] is both illigal and immoral and the much oppressed palestinians are resisting however they can.I oppose this tactic but i’m not oppressed under occupation and neither are you.We used to be a nation against torture and against pre-emptive war but 5 minutes after 9-11 we did an about face.So much for principles and moral character as we berated everyone else under the sun for their policies.It‘s easy to get on your exceptionalism high horse when you’ve never been attacked.We showed how deep our much tauted principles were.I would rather see peaceful resistence but i’m not occupied .In principal,i oppose their tactics but i opose the israeli occupation and their tactics equally.American Muslims or other Muslims don’t have to jump through your hoops.They owe you nothing and ethically they know the truth which you are blind too;that the israeli occupation is unjust and illigal.History is an argument.Doesn’t matter hundreds of years ago.What matters is Isrel should sit with hamas to talk peace but won’t ou
Report Post »JJBlazeReader
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:45pm..
Rose-Ellen, you must be writing based on a script. Boring and nonsensical.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:52pm@rose-ellen
Anyone ever tell you that you talk too mucking futch? (a Spoonerism there)
Since you’re so pro-Moslem, I’m tempted to treat you as should befit a Moslem female as you do things: If I want your opinion,. I’ll beat it out of you.
If you want to be all Palestinian and stuff, Arabs and other Moslems have killed more people than Jews ever have. H*ll, Rose! Moslems, today and every day, kill their own. Moslems consider rape victims to be whores, and they execute those women.
Is that okay with you? Do Jews and Christians go to that horrible kind of place?
Little girls, young as age 9, are sold as ‘brides’ to 40-year-old perverts. Jews and Christians don’t do that.
Moslems, however do that–today, in the 21st Century.
This is okay with you, Rose-Ellen?
Pffft!
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:31pmrose-ellen has been indoctrinated beyond the ability to reason or to think logically. The facts and the truth have no bearing in her eyes. The lies that have been told to her are so ingrained into her belief system that they have become the truth to her. Its sad really, just another useful idiot who will only see the error in her ways when it is too late.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:21pmWhen you occupy people’s land which you acquired though conquest[war] in a late twenty-and twenty first century world, it is not acceptable and people will resist.The UN was created to ensure that what was done in the past[winning land through conquest] would no longer be acceptable but it would be recognized that might does not make right and conquoring land is a volation of peoples human rights. The borders of israel are the ones established in 1948. Israel should cease its illigal and immoral occupation and return to the 67 borders.All arabs including hamas have said a 67 border israel would be acceptable[though always viewed as historically an unjust creation which they have the right to believe though right wing Zionists refusal to make peace stems from the fact they 'd rather have war then allow arabs to even BELIEVE that the creation of israel was unjust. They want to control the historical narrative about israel and wish to annihilate all people with a less then noble view of the creation of the state of israel.They would rather have more wrt and more israelis killed then make peace with people whose narrative about the history of israel differs drom theirs[theirs being a noble one and the arabs' narrative being that of a great injustive imposed on them] israel will not allow the historical narrative to be other then theirs.if it means more war for their people then so be it.This is tyranical, obstinance and domineering.Long live the just palestinian resistence.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:24pmYou’re nuttier than muslim squirrel droppings.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:24pmDeath to Islam and all those who support it.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:30pmAs I’m told, the harshest curse against a Moslem is (and I launch it at YOU, Rose-Ellen), “May Allah take the sight of your eyes.”
~spits at your feet~
Report Post »RN MOM
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:33pmRose- I think you should read a history book. The muslims stole the lands from Jews and Christians. That’s what the crusades were about. muslims have no greater license to the land than anyone who lived there too. Let us not forget that the land was barely populated when the Israelites were settled there. Then, boom, the anti-Semitic Aryans sent in a bunch of muslims to claim land rights afterwards. I think they should go back to the 300 AD lines, before the barbarians stole it from the Christians and Jews.
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:34pm@Upstate
If you honestly think that, you are just as bad as the Muslim Extremists.
Report Post »BONETRAUMA
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:34pmBob…
Well stated.
Report Post »plshark72
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:35pmwe should welcome POTUS coming on here and finally speaking his mind truthfully. now the american people can make the right decision in 2012!
Report Post »sablegsd
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:36pmBoy, you have been brainwashed.
You really should educate yourself. You come off as a ignorant lunatic.
Report Post »heavywx
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:37pmLong live the just palestinian resistence.
ROFLMMFAO thats funny
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:37pmYep and I wipe my nether regions with your koran, pieces of my feces be upon it. Mullah Mullah Poopy Poopy.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:43pm“LIiberalMarine” LOL, you are an oxymoron, what way your MOS by the way? I’ve seen so many fakes lately, liberals pretending to be Marines that it really shows the how low you S O B s are.
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:49pmI’m not an imposter or whatever you think. I’m an 0933 Marksmanship Instructor.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:50pmHere comes ROSE-ELLEN the lover of muslim terrorists & sharia law joined by LIBERALMARINE
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:53pmJust because I don‘t support killing an entire religion doesn’t mean I support the actions of the extremist groups of said religion.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:56pmLiberalMarine, would you give my your real name so I can check? My last name is Rivera, by the way. USMC 88′ – 92′ Disabled Veteran, Desert Shield/Desert Storm.
Report Post »JJBlazeReader
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:57pm..
Rose-Ellen,
Then the Arabs should not have started the wars (plural) against Israel. To put it in vernacular terms, the Arabs want a do-over. After they get their land back then they will try again to destroy Israel. Your obfuscation of the problem doesn’t work.
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:00pmI’ve gotten a death threat on here before, I’m not giving out my name.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:05pmLOL, great excuse, I get death threats daily, but since I know I stand in truth, so be it, you must not be clear where you stand?
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:08pmI know where I stand, on the side that doesn’t have the crazy gun nuts who hide say they are Christians but wish death on an entire group of people.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:15pmYou BIG coward, what kind of Marine is afraid of death? You’re pathetic, no wonder our beautiful country is dying, you idiots make me sick.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:16pm@LiberalMarine
However it goes, Marine, Moslems want to kill everyone. H*ll, Marine! Moslems kill even their own. They rape children, make slaves, and are otherwise living in the 8th Century when it’s the 21st.
I want to kill, if necessary, only liberals, Moslems, and idiot liberals who support all that crap.
If you libs have a problm with that, Well…you’re liberals. Not much to say about that.
Report Post »Texas Grasshopper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:20pm@RN ..300 ad lines ..yeah I would support that
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:21pmI’m not afraid of death, but I’m not looking for it.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:22pm@LiberalMarine
As a matter of fact, Moslems are out to kill YOU, because you wear that uniform.
Seriously, Marine–how does all that fit in your head, if you want to keep being a liberal?
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:24pm@upstate
You are an F’ing Psychopath.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:29pmHey Upstate, coming from this liberal, I’d take that as a compliment brother.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:04pm@
LiberalMarine
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:24pm
@upstate
You are an F’ing Psychopath.
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No, Marine. I’m hell on wheels against liberals and Moslems, and the type who will keep your back in a firefight. Before any enemy gets to you, Marine, he has to first get past me.
You know, Marine, liberals WISH I’m crazy. If they think I’m nuts, they get to keep their comfort zone–what they (liberals) need.
But I’m not crazy. I’m well aware of myself, all too aware of liberals, and fully responsible for everything I say, write, and do. I’m the worst person to be against, and the best kind you want covering your back.
If the stuff hits the fan, Marine, no one gets you unless they get past crazy me.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:53pm@Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:29pm
Hey Upstate, coming from this liberal, I’d take that as a compliment brother.
________________
Libs like thinking I’m a nutcase, because I flat-out tell them I’ll let them die if the rubber meets the road. And they don’t like that idea.
Liberals call me a psychopath because I have no problem shooting any of them, while also covering the back of a fellow Conservative. It galls one troll here, that I‘ll feed a Conservative with my last can of food but wouldn’t pee on a liberal who is on fire.
Liberals, like this Rose-Ellen, think themselves so high and mighty.
To me, they’re vermin. Mice and rats, far as I’m concerned, are better than any liberal.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:53pmLIBERALMARINE
Report Post »Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:00pm
I’ve gotten a death threat on here before, I’m not giving out my name.
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Yeah right you’re such an important person LOL
Michael
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:14amStudy your history Rose-Ellen, don’t just spout Obama rhetoric. It’s true that the UN set up the borders in 1948, however it was not Israeli aggression that expanded the borders but Islamic-led genocidal attacks on the legitimate Israeli Nation. The Israelis whipped them and took the land as a buffer zone. After a few years they decided that this land could be developed and become useful to all the people, Muslim and Jew, who lived in the Israeli Nation. Once this was accomplished, the Muslims (in the name of non-existant Palestinians) decided they wanted it back. I don‘t know where you live but if the United States had to rule by your decree we’d have to give all the South-Western States and California back to the Mexicans and the original 13 Colonies back to the British.. .
Report Post »FactOrFiction
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 2:57pmHey Rose, most people here can tell the difference between truth and crap (a.k.a Takiyya) You’re wasting your breath here. Try you’re luck at a liberal site.
Report Post »GoldenRudy
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:20pmMeant “gun”, not “guy” in post. But then again, throwing a few of the stone throwers may not be bad either.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:16pm@Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:29pm
I’ve heard every liberal line, over and over for decades. Everything, and anything, a liberal spews is so old I just ignore them unless I want to tinker with them. Among liberals, it’s always the same thing. “Racist, homophobic, sexist, hateful, anti black, pro-Israel/anti-Semitic, Islamophobic, hate-Mexicans, hate-liberals (which I do), anti-free speech, anti comedy, anti-Clinton, Obama-hater, pervert (when Anthony Weiner sends pics of his junk to a 17-year-old), hateful of same-sex marriage…
Well, you get the idea.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:19pmIdiots, constantly poking the snake with a stick and then cry like liberals when they get bit. Palestinians are useful idiots the same way liberals are. It’s been over 20 years since my war, my trigger finger is getting itchy anyways, at least I’ve seen it before, like many others, we are prepared and I know Israel is prepared.
Report Post »GoldenRudy
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:16pmPrior to the 1967 War borders (to which Obama would like Israel to return), the Muslim portion of Jerusalem was off-limits to Jews and Christians. First thing the Jews did was to open the entire City of Jerusalem to all “peaceful” people. BTW. If someone throws a rock at you intending to do as much damage to you as possible and you do not have a rock, but a gun. How do you defend yourself? By throwing the loaded guy at them?
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:20pmIt was off limits because the conflict of european zionists moving in and building settlements by displacing arabs to create a jewish state had already started the conflict between european zionists and native arabs.Prior to 19th century zionism jews and muslims and christians lived together peacefully there.Alot more peacefully there then in Europe.History starts whereever you wish to put down the plumb line.Thats the problem Start with today,an occupied people [under CURRENT international law].You wish to dismiss current international law for israel though you attacked iraq when they tried to recapture Kuwait [they also had historic claim and Kuwait was illigally slant driiling iraqi oil therefore they too [the kuwaitis] started a war yet we defended them from iraqs’ attempt at a land grab which they also say[like the israelis] was to defend themselves from [kuwaiti] agression.[slant drilling which would cripple their economy--being an act of war].
Report Post »charlesxii
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:16pmmuslims are peace loving…isn’t that what they always say???
Report Post »Texas Grasshopper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:16pmneed another rally this year bigger then tea party…if massive peacefull dont occur we lose our frredom ..
Report Post »RugDog
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:16pm******* muslim maggots! Kill them all.
Report Post »BONETRAUMA
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:32pmBut they are from the religion of peace.
Report Post »GardenoftheGods
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:14pmImagine that…Muslims not honoring the rights of other religions…Time to wake up America! Muslims are given the right to destroy every other religion in the Koran. They are told to kill the infidels (You & Me) whenever they get the chance. Their madrassasa’s teach them to wage jihad on ALL non-muslims…and they are doing it in record numbers. Their Imams are teaching them to infiltrate & destroy America…so let’s forget all the PC bull & put a stop to encouraging Muslims to spread their hate (Shariah) throughout our land. As for you Lefties who believe they are just poor downtrodden people, they are given permission in the Koran to lie, kill, deceive & destroy US. YOU will be the first they go after…the gays, the feminists, the ones who don‘t conform to Islam’s idea of correct behavior. It’s a damn shame that you are blind to what their plans are for us in the west….
Report Post »regina4u
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:17pmgardenofthegods You are right spank on ! Now the Catholics are being sued in Allentown Pennsylvania because a muslim woman working at a the Diocese of Allentown was forced to take lunch breaks during ramadan and did not recieve health benefits as a part-time worker. They are trouble have been from the beginning and will be till something is done.
Report Post »ARIZONA VETERAN
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:14pmReligion of peace my ass!, terrorist are more like it!!…Israel, its time 2 start throwing full metal jacketed “rocks” @ 150 grains each!!!
Report Post »csinnm
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:13pmI hope Israel remains vigilant, and I hope our (thus far seemingly ignorant) POTUS wakes up! I stand with Israel.
Report Post »Beverly Barnum
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:25pmHe’s not ignorant. He hates Jews, as does his 20-year pastor, Jeramiah Wright. All Obama says and does is purposeful, just not exactly the purpose of most Americans.
Report Post »randy
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:12pmTime build some glass parking lots…
Report Post »CaptainSpaulding
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:11pmDid you know Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance?
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:16pmI keep hearing that. Evidence of that is somewhat lacking.
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:39pmYes, I am reminded with the Love they showed the Fogel Family..
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/two-palestinians-arrested-for-fogel-family-massacre.html
Report Post »jollylama
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:11pmdeploy the drones
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:22pmThese are not the drones you are looking for…..
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:10pmOne of these days, enough is going to be enough. Then Israel …POW! Right in the kisser.
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:28pmReally think it is going to be taken care of for them, but a lot of destruction first:
Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:00pmCalling their dome stupid is hatred.They are occupied and suffer under occupation.They’re at war becausw of illigal occupation.Talk about teaching hatred.Everything you say is hateful and as some of you now are openly saying,genocidal hatred.Fox exists to incite genocidal hatred of arabs and apparently its working as you whine that they[an illigally occupued people] hate their occupiers. And all those victims of american invasions and prior to that american backed brutal regimes who are now defending themselves from american invasions you also hate as you slaughter and torture the men women and children or iraq,afghanistan,pakistand and yemen.How dare those uppity arabs fight back when we invade or refuse to submit to our domination of their region[via dictators or military bases].You’re so full of hatred you throw out all your much tauted values regarding universal human rights ,now allowing torture pre-emptive war and cold blooded assassinations[like the soviet empire].You’ve become the hateful genocidal nazis you once fought.Gullible,manipulated pro-racist Zionist pawns.Shame on you!
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:27pm@rose-ellen
You still haven’t answered the question:
If you hate the USA so much & adore the palestinians…..WHY are you here instead of there??
Report Post »Cherynn
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:09pmMuslims are a good arguement for genocide. They cant peacefully co-exsist with anyone and they have proved that globally.
Report Post »AtheistLiberalMarine
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:22pmWhoa, genocide is never the answer.
Report Post »BRAVEHEART
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:31pmGenocide may be too extreme, but the Idealology of Islomofascism must be completely eradicated from the face of the earth. There should be zero tolerance for such insanity and hatred on a global basis. Any promotion of jihad or violent Islam or any promotion of sharia law should be prosecuted as capital crime against humanity or a war crime with appropriate punishment.
Report Post »HairRazor
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:05pmYeah.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:59pmThey tore down the buddhist statues because their people were hungry [i was in afghanistan in the 70's and saw the poverty there-like going back in the stone age,children with bare feet in the freezing winter and hardly any food].A european Historical society went there with one million dollars to clean up those ancient bhuddist statues. The taliban said that they could only do so if they first provide money for their hungry people [again i was there in the 70's. The people were hungry].The arrogant archological society said no, we’re here to clean up ancient statues [appanently Afghans' suffering was not on their radar of concern,Like it wasn't on anyone else's either.It wasn't politically chic to care about afghans].That is when the taliban blew up the statues.As well they should.The living matter more then statues even great ,historically fascinating ancient statues.And no american or israeli was ever killed by a muslim for not being a muslim.They are resisting unjust policies hence their war iis a political one for independence[as Osamas support of the arab spring and hamas's support of a 67border israel indicates].Your narrative that this is about religious conquest is self serving-you can dismiss your support of mass murdering dictators who do our bidding as well as dismiss the illigal and immoral occupation of palestinian land occupied since 67.What was valid in the past;aquiring land through force, was, after ww2 and the creation of the UN deemed illigal and u
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:39pm@rose
Report Post »You are such a goofball. You should really move there and see how you will be treated.
rose-ellen
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:38pmThe israelis opened fire on PEACEFUL protesters who stormed the syrian /israeli border to again, PEACEFULLY protest the occupation of golan [post 67illigal land grabs].You and Fox manipulated genocidal anti-arab bigots have no problem with israelis murdering PEACEFUL protesters as you hypocriticaaly claim the reason you won‘t have peace talks with them is because they don’t renounce violence.The syrians were peacefeul yet they were murdered anyway.It’s not about their tactics but about the fact israel insists on illigally occupying arabs land.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:49pmAtheistliberalMoron, now I know I busted a fake Marine, you make me sick you coward POS, no wonder you wouldn’t give me your name, punk. I’m pretty sure you are Liberal Atheist Critical Thinker also, you both type the exact same B S. It is a crime to pretend to be a Marine, I want your name or you take Marine off your moniker!
Report Post »SistaTriscuit
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:56pmIslam IS an ideology of “genocide” – death to everyone who is not a believer. No matter how badly any of US might hope for that, it simply will never happen with Islam. They’ve been waging jihad against non-believers for 1400 years and they’ll continue to do so. What too many fail to realize is that it isn’t just the Jews & Christians that Islam despises, it’s ALL non-believers…. that includes YOU, AthiestLiberalMarine, along with Buddhists, Wiccans, Sikhs, and every other religion outside of Islam.
As far as the conflict with Israel goes, it’s not about the land – it’s NEVER been about the land. Israel comprises 6/10ths of ONE PERCENT of the land mass in the middle east, and it’s about THE LAND? Puh-leeze. It’s about the eradication of Israel, period. It‘s about the complete annihilation of the Jews as mandated by the Qur’an. How convenient that people forget that muslims worked with the Nazis during the Holocaust. It will never matter what concessions Israel makes, it will never be enough until Israel no longer exists.
For these dumbarses like Rose Ellen apparently simple history is too complicated and common sense never even comes into play. Israel is NOT an oppressor, they are NOT an “apartheid state” and they are not killing innocent Palestinians, unless you consider a person that is on a suicide mission and charging the border knowing full-well they’ll be “martyred” to be an “innocent”. In that case, you’re just a bloody willfu
Report Post »SychinLegacy
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:09pmIs anyone really shocked?
The real question is, where are all the moderate Muslims condemning all these actions by the extremists? These aren’t isolated incidents and they are occurring more and more frequently. If the moderate and “peaceful” Muslims don’t come out and start condemning the actions of the extremists, then they will be grouped with the extremists.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:39pmThe unjust occupation should be condemed.this is what happens when through illigal conquest you aquire more land. The israeli borders are the 48 borders and israel should relinquish all land conquored through war[1967]. That is what is legal and just .The UN was formed to ensure that a new code of ethics be recognized [aquiring land through war is no longer acceptable-might does not make right].We believe that about other states and yet hypocritically veto resolutions condeming israel for aquiring more land after being given its borders in1948.People do not take kindly to uinjustice and illigal occupations,They resist however they can.Long live the palestinian reistance.All palestinians have said [including hamas]they would accept a 67border israel though of course they have the right to their historical narrative of beieving that the creation of israel was unjust. Israel does not want peace with people whose narrative differs from theirs. They would rather have war then have people see their origin as ignoble and unjust. Palestinians have nothing to lose in fighting oppression. Israelis lose peace and security by choosing to not talk with people whose narrative differs from theirs.Obstinate, foolish[they suffer needlessy]and tyranical.Long live the noble palestinians.Shame on the obstinent right wing zionists who would rather war then talk to people who have a different historical view of the origin of the state of israel! Deadly cruel pride at work here on the part of israe
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:48pmHere comes ROSE-ELLEN the lover of muslim terrorists & sharia law .
Report Post »Emrys
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:08pmRose-Ellen, are you kidding me? If the idiot Arab nations start wars with Israel (which they did numerous times in the twentieth-century), then they should expect to lose some land when they lose a war They Started. And it isn’t Israel launching thousands of rockets a year into Palestinian neighborhoods; no, it’s the peaceful, tolerant Palestinians doing that to Israeli neighborhoods, blowing up Jewish buses, killing parents and children in their own homes by slicing them up…the list goes on forever.
“Israel does not want peace with people whose narrative differs from theirs.” Seriously? It seems like it‘s the Muslims in the world who won’t tolerate anyone who believes different they they do. Many people have conquered Afghanistan over the past two thousand years, but it was only the Muslims who tore down the ancient Buddha statues. Who has it in their charter to rid the world of Israel? I believe that would be the Muslim group known as Hamas. Yeah, Isreal doesn’t want peace with people whose narrative differs from theirs in that the narrative of their enemies is to destroy them. Don’t be a tool.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:11pm@rose-ellen
After careful consideration, I have reached the inescapable conclusion that you are clinically insane. No one has allowed the “Palestinian” people to settle on their lands. NO ONE. Not even other Muslims.
How would you suggest the Israelis negotiate with a group of people who hold as a basic tenant of their government the destruction of Israel and her people? If the Palestinians got everything they are asking for they would still destroy Israel; they would simply be in a better to accomplish more murders.
Report Post »Texas Grasshopper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:32pmrose ..I think that you are either a goverment agent or a lunatic …..
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:41pmAll these palestinian hating muslim dictators are indeed evil brutal and more often then not american backed.Hezbollah in Lebanon protects the much reviled shias and much reviled palestinians from the elite western backed christians and sunnis who oppress them.These american backed muslims countries will not defend the palestinians because they know which side their bread is buttered.That is unprincipaled and a result of power politics [no one wants an american or israeli drone hitting them for harboring "terrorists".]Alquada formed in part because it recognized the unjust situation of the palestinians in these countries and saw how american imperialism [propping up regimes for our interests at the expense of the people there which distanced themselves from the palestinians] in cohoots with israel allowed for such oppression of palestinians.He was an independence fighter for all oppressed arabs,including palestinians.may God have mercy on his soul.
Report Post »upstateny
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:10pmHey Rose Ellen, If you believe in your BS so heavily become a human shield and get the F out you whore of a dog.
Report Post »Dudley Do-Right
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:18pmWhen one nation attacks another and then retains the territory it conquers, it is an occupier. You can’t put a country in that same category when it gains that territory in the course of defending itself! You are not being honest by calling Israel an occupier!
Why did the Arabs – the Palestinians – massacre 67 Jews in one day in 1929? Could it have been their anger over Israeli aggression in 1967? And why were 510 Jewish men, women and children slaughtered in Arab riots between 1936-39? Was it because Arabs were upset over 1967?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T64JIgs5C6k
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:26pm@Texas Grasshopper
Report Post »Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:32pm
rose ..I think that you are either a goverment agent or a lunatic …..
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MIBUGNU2
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:33pm@ TECHENGINEER
Report Post »This is what your beloved Muslim children do in Isreal..
Two teenagers did this, Don’t see how you can defend this ..
You and I would meet the same fate, if they had their way !!!
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/142846
Robert-CA
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:48pmSHOWTIME
Report Post »Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:26pm
@Texas Grasshopper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:32pm
rose ..I think that you are either a goverment agent or a lunatic …..
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Honey, is there any difference?
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Touchee !!!!!!! Bingo !!!!!!!
Berbel73
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:07pmIt’s people like rose-ellen and techengineer11 that I just don’t understand. They will flat out lie to the point where they believe their own lies. Truth be damned in their eyes and for what? What do they think that their deception will earn them in the end? Do they know that they are doing the devil’s work? Do they realize that they are only pawns and will be eliminated in the end as well? How or why anyone would knowingly and willingly side with evil is beyond me. I pray that their eyes and hearts will be opened to the truth before its too late.
Report Post »dnnyshdy
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:11pmI think rose -ellen and techengineer11 are people who enjoy getting people upset.I don’t think they really beleive the stupid things they say,they just do it to get a rise out of people.Nobody can really be that stupid.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 2:24pmMIBUGNU2: Each time that act has been brought up on the Blaze I have condemned in the strongest terms; however, what I’m waiting for is someone on the Blaze to condemn the IDF for slaughtering 1500 people in the raid on Gaza 3 years ago.. Mostly civilians. I never have understood this notion of good murder and bad murder only to the extent that people are prejudiced.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:05pmThey send rocks you send bullets! There is no excuse for this!!
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:08pmA wild animal will always be a wild animal.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:10pmJeez, I agree with you 82nd.
Report Post »BMartin1776
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:10pm^____^____^
No there isnt any excuse for this it makes no sense if what is being reported is true. Who is in control of the security force? Why would they allow this all of a sudden? Does this fall under false flag event? …. And the solution to all of these problems over there is going back to the 67 lines?! Yea okay… if anything this proves where Israel is headed if they are abandoned by the UN with the “they are oppressors” narrative. Leave this country out on its own and things will get beyond bloody
Now that thats said please take 4 min out of your day and watch this timeless speech http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLci5DoZqHU by Charlie Chaplin from the movie The Great Dictator. Ive sent it over to Blaze staff but who knows if they will feature it. LISTEN to the words, probably the best speech I have ever heard!
Report Post »ohyaok
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:12pmTake back the whole Temple Mount. Use it for what it should be, The Jewish Temple.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:12pm@82nd Airborne:
One thing I do have to say about the IDF in these matters lately is they are showing considerably more restraint than I would; if I recall corrrectly, they used tear gas to disperse most of the attackers instead of bullets. Yet if the matter came down to the safety of one person being attacked with the intent to kill them (and rocks indeed fall into the category), then all bets are off in my book.
Report Post »mottdahoop
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:13pmAmen. There is no reasoning with those animals. The only thing understand is raw brute power and force. That is why God created 5.56 and 7.62.
Report Post »Huguenot Descendant
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:23pmYou give them an inch and they want blood. Typical of Muslims. Obama is the same way in how he always sides with Palestine, it is obvious he doesn’t care about the Israel community.
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:24pmLet Muslims fight Jews, let Jews fight Muslims, and let America solve it’s own problems.
If you guys have so much faith in God protecting his people, then allow God to do so.
I find heartily incorrect the establishment of God’s people being Jews anymore, considering the New Testament.
Report Post »Want our country back
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:25pmI support israel
Report Post »Lantern
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:29pmMuslims under the age of 50. Isn‘t that the very profile that the TSA needs and isn’t this just the proof needed to show how these people behave? I say ban Muslims under 50 everywhere!
Report Post »BONETRAUMA
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:29pmbullets for rocks….i like that!
Report Post »mill
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:31pmThe religion of PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHHHHHHCCCCCCCCCE!!! I think it might be time to destroy mecca……and have a pig roast out on the lawn with a little beer summit.
Report Post »sablegsd
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:32pmRocks can kill. The koranimals just recently fired a missile at a SCHOOLBUS and slaughtered a family as they slept. Have you seen those pictures? That is the kind of subhuman, inbred, brain dead, evil, hateful piles of worm riddled feces the world, not just Israel, is dealing with. The are nothing more than insane, two legged vermin.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:36pmJust doing what the book tells them to:
“Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.” Qur’an 8:60
Report Post »“Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Qur’an 2:191
“Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.” Qur’an 9:123
Bluebonnet
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:40pmNo matter how much we give them the benefit of doubt, they are still hell-bent on destroying the rest of the world. Our country has been way to lenient with them, so has Europe. Now, they are trying to stir up problems everywhere they can. See why we can’t let the Muslims have power over us? They are NOT a peace loving people, they have been fighting all of this world for eons. They aim to kill us.
Report Post »Rightsofman
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:41pmThe “Religion of Peace” my a–.
Report Post »oldasdirt
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:50pmPalestinian’s were thrown out of Syiria,The ******‘s in Syiria could not stand the palestinian’s.
Report Post »Then the palestinian’s wandered over to Jordan,and got their butt’s kicked out of there.The *******
in Jordan could not stand the palestinian’s.The palestinian’s fight amoung themselfs,they cant even stand one-another.As far as I am concerened,the palestinian’s dont have a right to exsist.They never had a homeland,and dont deserve the great treatment that Israil has show them.
But ******‘s will use palestinian’s as a proxie to do their evil bidding aginst Israil.
You will never see people like Rose Ellen complain about how the ****** nations treat the palestinian’s though.
lketchum
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:51pmAmen, 82!
End them all; they are savages.
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:57pmPEACE IN THE MID-EAST:
The interesting thing about the Israel-Palestinian Peace Talks is that if the Arabs (Muslims) quit attacking Israel the conflict would end. What does Israel have to gain by negotiating with people whose only objective is to destroy Israel? The only agreements possible are those that weaken Israel. http://commonsense21c.com/
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:01pmTake back the \Temple Mount, tear down the Dome of the Rock and rebuild the Temple. The Muslims have had it long enough. Time to lose it…
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:15pm@libertariansunite – while there may be validity to the New Testament abolishing the Old Covenant between God and Israel, Israel IS, none-the-less a God-fearing, loving nation, and one of our closest allies. As such is IS good for us to stand by them. Does that NEED to be financial or military, specifically? Not necessarily, however, we certain still need to stand by them, as we would any good nation, especially when they are such an ally.
As for this story, I am only surprised by anyone whom this story suprises. islam is a “religion” of hate. muslims can stand there and scream and insist it is about ‘love’, but, their actions betray them.
Their evil works prove who they are:
Matthew 7:16 – “Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?”
Even the ones that claim it is just a few ‘radicals’ and not all muslims –
Report Post »their silence SCREAMS of their true selves:
James 4:17 – “Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth [it] not, to him it is sin.”
Anti_Spock
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:33pmAnti-christ Obama will just find another way of taking it. (to the chagrin of God, over the death of us all)
Report Post »its_time_to_arrest_our_government
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:34pmfirst off that mosque is build on top of the jewish temple id bulldoze the damn thing off my temple and run the muslim heathens into the desert. i dont know why the jews have put up with this hatred for so many years. these muslim heathens are the spawn of the devil and need to be sent back to hell where they belong.
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:43pm@TOMFERRARI
I am not saying condemn Israel, they are our ally and you are correct. If we are not capable of financially helping, then we need to stop spending.
Israel in the past, has single handedly defeated all of it’s surrounding neighbors. Why do you lack such faith in Israel? Besides, if they launch a full scale attack on Israel then we will respond. The dumb part is Sheep on this site, our taking specific news bites, chosen by Beck, and assuming that no other violence occurs elsewhere.
In Iraq Sunni and Shia kill each other, constantly, where is the news on them? Oh that is right, Beck is pushing some specific agenda for them.
Let other people deal with their problems, how about America come home and defend it’s own borders for once?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:43pm“Peaceful” Muslims once again….. I agree 82airborne you can’t make peace or even co-exist with people who want you dead … they are barbarians that must be stopped.
I stand with Israel
TEA!
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:52pm@ 82dAirborne
Report Post »They send rocks you send bullets! sounds like a fair exchange to Me !!
Throw rocks, go back to the other side of the fence…
Come through the fence and mines, you die !!
A fence usually means someone does not want YOU on their SIDE !!!!
Bama, Liberals, and Mexicans should also be made to understand THIS !!
Jediusetheforce
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 5:57pmI don’t see any rocks…WHere?? Just people running.
Report Post »mill
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:01pmOokspay
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 4:36pm
Just doing what the book tells them to:
“Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.” Qur’an 8:60
Report Post »“Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Qur’an 2:191
“Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.” Qur’an 9:123
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this is true..and that is why there are nonononono good muslims, again, there are no no no good muslims.
The world, esp Obama, needs to quit saying that it’s just a few errant muslims that are doing the dirty deeds….THEY ALLLLLL ALLLLL FOLLOW THE SAME BOOK!!!!
They’re like a plague on mankind, God’s idea of joke I suppose. Write a book that tells people to kill other people, raise children that know nothing but poverty and war, eg middle east, see if they follow and sit back and laugh at the slaughter.
JohnStenberg
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:05pmLibertariansunite; & TomFerarri:
Read Romans 11. The Israelites are still God’s people. Yes there is the new covenant but God never breaks a promise. He will fulfill his promise to Israel. And yes they are still his people and we should still stand with them as the bible teaches.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:08pmJudaism vs Catholic Church: Interesting little video series. I intend to buy the book.
http://youtu.be/jB8RVzGqJiI
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:09pmSomeone comes over my fence, with a fist full of rocks,Be looking
Report Post »down the barrel of a ..357. No bullshi**
Guess Janet would consider Me a Home Grown Terrorist !!
NOBAMA-2012………..SEMPER FI.
techengineer11
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:10pmI hope they knocked some of those silly little hats off of their heads… Regardless I’m sure if a little pebble hits a Jew then they will turn around and slaughter about a 1000 women and children in retaliation.. That’s the way the Jew does it. They love to use all of the weapons which they swindled from the US.
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Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:23pmISLAM … the satanic verses ideology.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:31pmI’d rather see more video of our borders and the violence occurring there.
Don’t think civilians can carry “bullets” to the Temple Mount or Dome of the Rock. It’s provocation and they should be taken in for it.
Just two idiots fighting over a rock to me..
Report Post »Ironmaan
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:32pmAttention sheeple, we are not at war with Islam! Islam “the religion of peace” only occasionally feels it necessary to kill or otherwise maim non-muslims. In addition, please do not refer to “the war on terror”; there is no such thing.
Don’t forget… all of the Christians, Jews, Hindu’s, and Buddhists that strap bombs to their bodies with the intent to kill as many innocent people as possible. Sometimes these religious nuts will actually put a bomb in their own underwear or shoes in an attempt to bring down an airplane. I mean these are some really sick people. Oh wait…its only the Muslims that do this.
Lastly, you could not find a more accepting and loving religion than Islam. If you have a unique thought, are gay, a woman, or a dog, you could not find a better religion to belong to.
http://guerillatics.com
Report Post »rvsample
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:39pmbulldoze the mosque.
Report Post »WHISKY13
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 6:52pmNo bullets or casualties as far as i have seen and read.
Report Post »rdk
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:00pmThe bullets are smaller. You have a gripe?
Report Post »Wayner
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:11pmA rock is a deadly weapon…. The army and the police should have the authority to shoot when people are being attacked with deadly weapons.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:22pm@JohnStenburg
Ark of the Covenant had Commandments, Aarons bud rod and Vase of Manna. The outside had a pocket that kept the Law. This is Judaism and the Judaism that laid way for Christ Jesus. Christ did fulfill the law and kept the commandments. Jesus is now the “law” and the commandments are still commandments.
Romans 11 is not what your parrot preaching and we do not have to stand with Israel or feel God’s wrath. That is collective and Christ is not collective.
Romans 11 tells us the base is Judaism due to paving the way of Christ. From Christ it was fulfilled and anyone still practicing it, rejection of Christ, is broken off and not of God.
Truth has no agenda. The truth is only those who believe is Jesus Christ have eternal salvation, Jew included, any who do not are not of God, Jew included.
Have a great day.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:47pmOKIE and TECH, the Jew-hating duo has arrived, who would have guessed? LOL, typical.
Report Post »pdh42
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 7:59pmTypical of the Islamic nut jobs…. They have NO respect for anyone including theirselves…. Makes you wonder what they worship since they are always so mad at everyone….
Report Post »dnnyshdy
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:05pmtechengineer11 you say some of the stupidest sh**.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:19pmOkie from Muskogee: If you have time listen to that video series I posted from youtube and give me your perspective on it. While I’m certainly no advocate for the Papacy, I do find some of the things which he said about the Jew and Judaism to be fascinating..
I look forward to reading the guys book at some point. I’ve read some of his articles before on the topic of Bolshevism and its sponsors.
I would encourage bobtheoathkeeper guy to read it as well but I realize he only has about 3rd grade education.. lol He’s only capable of GB inspired group think…
Btw, for all of the Blaze zealots I was only kidding about those rock throwers hitting your idols on top of the head.. lol
Report Post »JohnStenberg
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:22pmOkie: you must not be reading right. I’m not saying they must not accept Christ. I’m just saying they are still his people. Read again.
Romans 11:25-29
Report Post »be self-opinionated (wise in your own conceits), I do not want you to miss this hidden truth and mystery, brethren: a hardening (insensibility) has [temporarily] befallen a part of Israel [to last] until thefull number of the ingathering of the Gentiles has come in, 26 And so all Israel will be saved. As it is written, The Deliverer will come from Zion, He will banish ungodliness from Jacob. 27 And this will be My covenant (My agreement) with them when I shall take away their sins. 28 From the point of view of the Gospel (good news), they [the Jews, at present] are enemies [of God], which is for your advantage and benefit. But from the point of view of God’s choice (of election, of divine selection), they are still the beloved (dear to Him) for the sake of their forefathers. 29 For God’s gifts and His call are irrevocable. [He never withdraws them when once they are given, and He does not change His mind about those to whom He gives His grace or to whom He sends His call.]
Thomas
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:22pmGod allows the dome of the rock to sit there because He will not allow the temple to be rebuilt for then there would also begin blood sacrifices and the final sacrifice has already been made. There is no need to rebuild the temple and God sovereignly rules Israel.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:24pmdnnyshdy: Sure, personally I think this entire topic is stupid. .I‘m much more concerned as someone else noted over what’s going on along our own Southern border versus some silliness over in the Middle East.
The fact of the matter is though no matter how you look at it the Jewish state is way overreacting to these provacations. Personally I don’t give a crap but for the record there are Billions that do.
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:24pmAccording to the doctrine of Christianity, if you do not accept Christ, you are not his people.
Go ahead though, buy into the propaganda. I am sure there are plenty of passages that say “fill your hearts with hatred and kill Muslims daily in the name of your Lord God.”…
WAIT THERE ISN’T.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:30pmJohnStenberg: I don‘t want really desire to get into any sort of theology debate but how could God take away one people’s/nation sin who hasn’t asked for it then condemn to hell an entire world who equally did not ask for his forgiveness?
That’s interesting. Is this just one of those Sovereign moves that the Creator gets to make? Burn one nation/people in hell fire for eternity because they’ve not lived up to expectations but then deliver another nation/people who by all acounts are the most rotten biggest scoundrels to ever walk this earth? Yeh that’s very interesting. Explain to me how that works again?
Report Post »getalong
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:31pmCode Pink, Code Pink…calling Code Pink. Your loving persecuted Palestinians are throwing rocks like a bunch of racist intolerant terrorists at peace loving Jews. . You better go defend them ( and by them, I mean the Palestinians). I say Israel has every right to defend themselves against these stupid ass backwards people who are ruled by a bunch of terrorists. America WILL stand for Israel despite what this President says.. .
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:39pm@Bob
Who’s hating Bob besides you? I hate no one, not even you. I do speak my views, which are peaceful and humble, not arrogant and violent. Sucks you spend so much time being hateful towards me.
Don’t you proclaim hatred for a group of people Bob? Please don‘t hate groups yourself and then come tell me to stop hating someone I disagree with in principle and don’t hate. Have a great day!
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:43pmIslam does not accept Christ as the messiah either, LOL! The difference between the two, is one is peaceful and the other isn’t, not a hard choice to make in my opinion, seems to be for the liberal morons though. Let’s see, Jews live in peace and are tolerant, Muslims live in constant war, with everyone, including themselves and are intolerant to women, gays, dogs, etc. You libs are perplexed by this decision? again LMFAO!! Oh bring it on already.
Report Post »muddyblazer
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:45pmThen don’t send rocks.
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Posted on June 12, 2011 at 8:53pm@BOB
Again, your confused, like usual.
Let me clarify, first off, I am not a “lib”, I am a Libertarian. I am probably more conservative than you are.
Secondly, I am not arguing whether or not Israel, the state, should exist, because frankly I don’t care.
I am arguing whether or not, we as American’s should intervene in these ideological struggles between different peoples. I don’t believe American blood is worth Jewish or Muslim blood.
The problem is, you spout so much “pro-Israel” because I am a Christian, BUT you never act like a Christian should. Christian defined means Christ Like, and Christ would NEVER tell people to hate mass groups of people. You therefore are a war monger.
If you have such a huge problem with Muslims, you go to Israel and kill them. Since you do not have the balls to do so, stop crying about it. One drop of American blood is not worth a gallon of Jewish, or Muslim blood.
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:07pmLibertariansUnite – You have no idea the significance of Israel and you don’t care what happens to them, that’s all I really need to know, could care less whatever else you think. Islam doesn‘t care that you don’t believe, if they get that territory, it’s a mandate for their Caliphate. They could care less about you, what you believe in or what you don’t. They talk about this all the time, are you this stupid not to notice or you just in denial? Whatever you are, you’re a danger to people who love freedom, especially when you don’t stand for people who promote freedom, you’ll be pushed in with the enemy, that’s your choice, you can’t sit on the sidelines to what is approaching, keep thinking that you can and see where it gets you. The two societies are going to clash and I know who wins, good luck.
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:16pm@BOB
Then go fight em Bob, but stop killing my brothers for your senseless pursuits.
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:23pmIn some faiths stoning is an expression of love. The ultimate sign of love from such faiths is strapping a bomb to your children and sending them to members of another faith.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:32pmLibertariansUnite:thanks for the intelligence which you bring to the debate.. .trust me the Blaze needs it!
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 9:41pmLibertariansUnite – You couldn’t refute the Caliphate and the significance of Israel I see, and if you’re “brothers” want the death of America or Israel, they‘ll definitely get that fight and they’ll lose, just like anyone else who’s gone against freedom.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:00pmNice. Lets pray and throw some rocks at people. Real stable. Put’em down.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:11pmBob_R_OathKeeper: Look bob nobody gives a flip about the middle east.. we have enough problems in America to take care of… If you are so concerned then go become a citizen in Israel.. We’ve wasted enough blood and treasure over there in that hell hole.. Enough’s enough! Let them work it out.
If we remain neutral for a few years who knows maybe we can forego all of this War on Terror garbage and pave some damn roads in rural America for a freaking change????
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 10:42pmIn islam, those not muslim are infidels, why would they tolerate worshipper of “other religions” there is NO “other religion” to them!
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:04pm@BOB
I didn’t “refute” your post, because it was like a recap of the GB series.
I wish one day you would try this concept called, “independent thought”.
Muslims, hate each other, and fight within themselves constantly. Israel’s military would demolish the Arab States. It simply amazes me how brainwashed these people are.
How to you control groups of people best Bob? Oh yeah, you entice fear “Muslims are going to destroy the world”. Then what do you think the government does…Oh yeah, pursue militarism for the profits of the industrial military complex! It is also a two for one deal because now we control oil in various regions! Again to review, If i can convince you of an impending threat, then taking over various rights for your “safety” is much easier (The Patriot Act), and military aggression can MAGICALLY become self defense!
Let the middle east, fight itself. Let us take care of America. Again, by all means Bob, if you want to go kill yourself some Muslims, then buy a plane ticket to Israel. Otherwise, stop dictating to Americans that we need to stop some fictitious Muslim Mafia out to get the world!
Report Post »Huguenot Descendant
Posted on June 12, 2011 at 11:49pm@LIBERTARIANSUNITE
Let me quote something you said that makes me dispute anything your mind comes up with.
“I find heartily incorrect the establishment of God’s people being Jews anymore, considering the New Testament.”
Now for what I have to say to this is who are you to consider who is gods chosen people?
1. It was written in the Bible that the Jewish people are Gods chosen people.
2. When Jesus was crucified by the Romans and Jews he said “God forgive them, for they no not what they do.” Now are you telling me that you can overstate what the Savior had said? This goes to show that even after the Jewish people had him crucified that he still forgave them and the Romans.
“The dumb part is Sheep on this site, our taking specific news bites, chosen by Beck, and assuming that no other violence occurs elsewhere.”
3. I have been scrolling down your words and I would just like to say that Glenn has spoken to those in Israel’s government and what they told him was that they just want the United States to butt out and he AGREED with them. It just goes to show how much of a Glenn Beck follower you really are, or your intelligence level on thinking you know what Glenn or anyone else here wants. You think you can vouch for others? Is that Libertarian idealism? I think not and I should know cause I am a Libertarian.
Report Post »Huguenot Descendant
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:02am@LIBERTARIANYEAHRIGHT
Continued:
“In Iraq Sunni and Shia kill each other, constantly, where is the news on them? Oh that is right, Beck is pushing some specific agenda for them.”
4. Alright then if you are so concerned about the Sunni‘s and Shiites then why don’t you start your own news organization and post it all over for the world to see. Then you can stop complaining when people are concerned over the Jewish people in Israel because they are BEING BOMBED AND KILLED on a DAILY BASIS by MUSLIMS!! Honestly do you even hear your own words? I believe you are just a Liberal in sheep‘s clothing at this point cause you don’t know what Glenn Beck wants, you don‘t know what Bob wants and you certainly don’t know what I want. So who are you to say anything about anyone on this site?
“Muslims are going to destroy the world”.
5. I had to laugh at this out loud. Take a look at History, pick up a book and read how the Muslim army’s slaughtered millions when they tried to get those to convert to their faith. Or how about how the Muslims at one point almost took over all of Asia and Europe only to be stopped by the Christian Franks, do you know about that? Of course you wouldn’t cause you think the thought of “Muslims taking over the world” is a ridiculous government conspiracy.
Report Post »DYNA
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:07amStand with Israel.
True Jews are still expecting the Messiah, they just do not know that He is Jesus.
From Romans 11:25-29
“Lest you be self-opinionated (wise in our own conceits), I do not want you to miss this truth and mystery, brethren: a hardening (insensibility) has temporarily befallen a part of Israel until the full number of the in gathering of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved. As it is written, The Deliverer will come from Zion. He will banish ungodliness from Jacob. And this will be My covenant with them, when I shall take away their sins. From the point of view of the Gospel they are enemies, which is for your advantage and benefit. But from the point of view of God’s choice (of election, of Divine selection) they are still the beloved (dear to Him) for the sake of their forefathers. For God’s gifts and His call are irrevocable.”
The Jews will be the evangelists of Jesus in the Tribulation. Jesus always intended that salvation be of the Jews as Jesus is a Jew Who paid the price for a new and better covenant. The Jews were never replaced. They are still the original olive tree. The original branches that can be grafted in. They will have the opportunity to see that their Messiah is Jesus.
It was God responding to disobedience that chose to temporarily scatter Israel. Now it is God Who is restoring Israel in these last days. No entity that persists at inhibiting His plans for Israel will escape judgement.
Report Post »Huguenot Descendant
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:14am@LIBERTARIANUPTIGHT
Conclusion:
“It is also a two for one deal because now we control oil in various regions!”
6. What oil did we control after the Iraq war ended? Please enlighten us cause as far as I recall the naive President Bush didn’t control the oil after the war because of that stupid “War for oil” slogan. But you know what as a Libertarian I say he SHOULD HAVE! Who paid for the Iraq war? We did the tax payer, and our soldiers who Died to free them. So why shouldn’t we be reimbursed for our what we did? It would be a small price but we should have taken all the oil we needed until all the money we spent was paid back.
But while I am sure you are thinking of some way to conjure up something against me I will say this. As a Libertarian I also disagree full heatedly with the Patriot act and Government control. However you got many things wrong in your “Judgements” as apparently you didn’t do your research into what Glenn thinks nor have seen his show obviously. If you are indeed a Liberal in sheep’s clothing paid by Sorros money to come here and rial those who are true libertarians and conservatives against each other then I say well done, you did a better job than most of the Sorros funded bloggers. Because I have noticed that is what Liberal Bloggers do, they infiltrate and then they destroy from the inside which indeed is what you are doing now.
Report Post »Buzzsaw {Friend me on Youtube}
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 12:29amNo Excuse for what?
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 2:32am@Hug….descendant
Ill make this short, because your rant hurt my head.
1) Your an idiot to argue that Jewish people are God’s people, again, read the New Testament.
2) Yes, a Jew can be forgiven, but he still has to accept Jesus Christ according to Christian Theology, another non point.
3) I am glad you watch GB more than I do…..? Look Beck started his entire rant on “Stand with Israel” garbage, if he has changed his stance to being neutral than yay for GB. I don’t care about the TV show enough.
4) This point is amusing, your saying that I am a Liberal because I brought up that Shia and Sunni kill each other all the time? My point is, GB took one instance of violence, put it up here to demonize Muslims. The irony is there is massive amounts of violence everywhere, done by all kinds of tribes and peoples. So why is he simply targetting Muslims? What about African Dictators?
5) Oh? Muslims slaughtered millions? What about witch hunts – the Inquisition – and massive amounts of violence started by “Christians”. This point has been made earlier, Religion is a vehicle used for evil, THAT IS NOT IT’S INTENT, but it is very easy to make justification of violence through religion. You……should look at history. So, which religion killed more people? Does it matter? Oh, and what about the slaughter of the Indians here in America, under the guise that they are “savages” who don’t fear God. Gimme a break.
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 2:36am6) Oil, just because the government tells you that we are not utilizing Oil, doesn’t mean we are not. I highly doubt we do not have our hand in middle eastern oil because of this garbage.
And I doubt your a true Libertarian: simply because you accused me of being a “Liberal” in sheep’s clothing. Most of my stances are pretty common Libertarian ones. And you accused me of working for Soros? Cmon guy, yes I just cashed a Soros check, for 1 million dollars, for promoting Ron Paul on this website. Get real.
By the way, try and little more logic and a little less emotion in your posts, I thought you were going to cry for a second.
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 2:50amOh, and let me throw this in the mix:
Glenn Beck says he is a Libertarian.
Glenn Beck is a liar, he is a neocon.
If he was a true Libertarian he would support Ron Paul, and he doesn’t.
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 6:06amISRAEL; Build a VERY HIGH wall on the temple mount to prevent these monsters from being able to throw even one rock down on praying Jews. Or, stop them from even going up to the temple mount. After all, you should control it. Not the other way around.
Report Post »Teaparty-grammy
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 6:22amJust one more example of how moderate and “peace-loving” the Palestinians are. And they’ll be just as moderate and “peace-loving” when they are allowed to overrun Israel like a herd of cockroache, too.
Report Post »Southernguy
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 7:38amI’ve ALWAYS held that belief ;)
Report Post »Who would Jesus bomb?
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 8:55amMonkeys, apes, gorillas, etc. are far more intelligent and civilized, obviously, than muslims under 50. Have you ever heard of anything invented by a muslim (besides the scud missile or an IED)??? Anything for the betterment of society? Like a vaccine, computer or technology, or medicine??? If you can’t use it to cause death or injury, they did not invent it!!! They are worthless to society. They should be exterminated, not the Jews.
Report Post »Upstate SC
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:27am@ Thomas..God allows the dome of the rock to sit there because He will not allow the temple to be rebuilt for then there would also begin blood sacrifices and the final sacrifice has already been made. There is no need to rebuild the temple and God sovereignty rules Israel.
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Matt. 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of be Daniel the prophet, stand in the Holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand). KJV. Its my personal belief that the Dome of the rock is the Abomination of desolation mentioned by Daniel and Christ. It is desolate to the Jew’s because they are banned from entering the temple mount. The Dome even has an inscription that states Jesus was not the son of God, and that Christians should convert. If that‘s not an abomination don’t know what is.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:34amYep .. gotta love a religion that tells you right after you finish praying start trying to kill someone by throwing rocks.. These people are MESSED up.. and so is there religion
Report Post »TreeTrimmerJim
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:41amLibitariansunite… those floods in Mississippi started as a few drops of water in our fields here in the upper midwest.
Is what your saying helping or hurting? I am not talking about your ego, I mean your neighbors, your family, your friends. Are you doing the next right thing? Show up, tell the truth and believe everything will work out OK.
When you speak do you know your information is absolutely based on facts? You have done that kind of research?
I say this because your replies seem like the person who when a crowd gathers gets behind someone pushes them into the circle to get the fight started. Are you that drop of water?
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:04am@TREETRIMMERJIM
I don’t even know where you are going with this, if you read my previous posts, you will notice that I don’t “start arguments”, I simply contribute an opinion. When someone “confronts” my opinion I rebuttal.
What does your post even mean? Look you do not have to agree with me, but I care about American troops, not Israeli, not Muslim, American. I do not feel it is necessary to kill more Americans in the name of some “fear based” motivation.
Do I think I am helping? Yes, we give up freedoms daily in the name of “safety” because of this garbage post right here. It is because people are so scared of the unknown, they are willing to sacrifice their basic rights for a fictitious safety net.
How about instead of asking me if I am helping, why not ask GB, if his daily “I hate Muslims” posts are helping America.
My bottom line is: stay out of Israel, they can take care of themselves, stay out of the Middle East they don’t want us their. Bring out troops home for once, and let us consider defending our border.
We can spout off about how we are “preventing Armageddon” by these actions, but we will lose much worse, if we continue to spend and our dollar crashes.
Report Post »hud
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:05amBMARTIN1776: Interesting piece, but Chaplin’s one world gov viewpoint is not the road to freedom for most societies.
Report Post »jeff.cooper
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:59am@LIBERTARIANSUNITE You make an excellent point regarding letting the two sides fight it out and I agree. The U.S. provides financial aid to both sides of that issue and its a morally bankrupt plan. Re: GB not being a Libertarian but a NeoCon, I think the jury is still out on that. There’s a middle, gray area that’s forming among Conservatives that draws heavily on many Libertarian ideals and fusing them with GOP roots, and I believe that’s where GB falls in.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:11pm@JohnStenberg
You must just read part of the chapter at a time..Read the whole chapter at once and write a summary and you’ll see the whole chapter tells the story that Judaism was fulfilled and only those believing in Christ will be left/grafted into the tree. Those not believing in Christ that are “natural” are broken off.
What does that mean to be broke off the tree John?
If Jews are pre selected and are saved no matter what why is Paul trying to save some himself in verse 14 John?
I doubt in one part of the Chapter Paul states he is trying to save Jews like he was only to later say all Jews are saved no matter what. That is contradicting. It is also contradicting to say Jews are broke off the tree but saved no matter what. Paul would not contradict himself like this.
Your view has an agenda and contradicts itself it one chapter. My view has no agenda and doesn’t contradict itself. Have a great day.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:26pm@Tech
I will check it out after this post. Studying all aspects is the best answer to truth. During the tribulation of the Papacy of Rome, all were slaughtered who didn’t bow to the Pope. Also keep in mind it’s a battle for the “chosen”. The “Chosen” people or the “chosen” disciple.
First comes in last, last comes in first.
I’ll check it out and post some thoughts.
@Bob
So anyone who doesn‘t see Israel as you or doesn’t think we should fight holy war for Israel is worthless to you? I gathered that from you post to LibertariansUnite.
Bob, you view people just like the Muslims you hate view people, either with them or against them. You and Muslims are the same except in your belief in God. Your just opposite poles of the same magnet. Ha ha ha that is hilarious and you do not even realize it. You hate Muslims like Hitler hated Jews and you think everyone is dumb who doesn’t think like you. Yup, you think just like the Muslim you hate. Thank you for the laugh! Wake up Bob!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 1:56pm@UpstateNC
I understand you thought of the Dome of the Rock being the abomination of desolation. I’m not sure it is right though. I don’t believe it to be an object.
Some believe Jesus was referring to Rome and when Jesus prophesied
Matthew 24:15, “When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)”
In A.D.66 when Cestius came against the city, but unaccountably withdrew, the Christians discerned in this the sign foretold by Christ, and fled while 1,100,000 Jews are said to have been killed in the terrible siege in A.D. 70.
Something to check out. Stay safe!
Report Post »texrubarts
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 2:13pmHey rocks can also kill people -wake up. Personally I am with Israel – send bullets!!!
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 2:30pmThese Muslims are sub-human. We’re not dealing with people from the same gene pool. They are stuck in a pre-historic primitive time. They have not yet evolved.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 2:32pmOkie from Muskogee: Is that prophecy in which you brought out 7th Day Adventist doctrine? What other sects that you are aware of that teach that?
I’ll be candid, I use to be very strongly in the Pre -Trib camp then I read some Mid and Post Trib points of view and I became a little concernd; however, each time I really buckle down and study I’d always come back to the Pre Trib notion… But that sort of implies a Tribulation Period for the Jews so I don’t know.
By the way I ordered that book which was referenced in the video.. lol Along with Wher’es the Birth Certificate.. It was like 1200 pgs long.. Between that and Gulag Archipeligo I probably won’t be reading any other thing the rest of the year… I’m a very slow reader and easily distracted.. I‘m an engineer and I’m use to reading to understand you know not just browsing..
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 3:01pmOnce again the love, peace and tolerance of the muslims shows its ugly head.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 3:53pm@Tech
I’m not a 7th day Adventist but I do keep the 7th day holy. Denominations is man made, not God, and is only grounds for man to disagree.
What did everyone believe before pre tribulation became popular is the question you should ask yourself.
Studying history one can see when pre tribulation was started, by who, why, and where it originated. One can then see the intent and that pre tribulation is not factual or truth driven but actually has an agenda.
The prophesy of Jesus I quoted was believed fulfilled until pre trib became popular and history became less popular and relevant.
Take into account all history. See Daniels 70 weeks are fulfilled and does not leave the last week to be fulfilled way in future. If you can ID the first beast you can then see pre trib isn’t true. Remember to tell parrot to be quiet and write the points down on a timeline. It will all fall together after that.
You want info debunking Pre-Trib email okiefrommuskogee33@yahoo.com
Part 1 watched. Jews calling the Catholic Church the most evil institution on earth after acting as friends to get what they want is not surprising to me. Same principle is occurring today. I’ll watch the others. Let me know how the book turns out.
Report Post »lulu229
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 4:16pmprobably only because they don’t have them…..BU
Report Post »Upstate SC
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 4:31pm@ Okie from Muskogee…I understand what you are saying.” In A.D.66 when Cestius came against the city, but unaccountably withdrew, the Christians discerned in this the sign foretold by Christ, and fled while 1,100,000 Jews are said to have been killed in the terrible siege in A.D. 70.” Jesus said that the temple would fall….So did Daniel 11:30-31 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do, he shall even return,and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant. 31 And arms shall stand on his part and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall (PLACE) the abomination that maketh desolate. Dan. 11:45 And he shall (Plant) the tabernacle of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him. Not disagreeing with you just know that Jesus and Daniel were both speaking of future events, all of them, right up to the end.. The Dome of the Rock was built in 687-690 AD..after the Muslim conquest of Israel. 2 John 7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an Anti Christ. My point is that the Muslim’s fit the definition of Anti-Christ, The Dome of the Rock states it with its inscriptions and it (PLACED) on the holiest site on Earth. Good to see that some folks are studying and seeking truth..God bles
Report Post »lijjo
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 4:36pmThere is no justification for throwing stones a peaceful praying people.
Why are they more interested in throwing stones at unarmed praying people, then praying themselves?
Maybe they are more violent than prayerful and peaceful.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 5:10pm@Tech
Part 4. Minutes 3 thru 4 are very insightful.
As I said before, this is a battle of arrogance to be the “chosen”.
It is good to hear truth from someone else around today’s teaching of Judaism and that Jews must believe in Christ to be saved. (Please notice the Catholic Church has flipped flopped numerous times around if “Jews” will be saved automatically depending on what favor they get in which ever view they keep. Agenda dictates)
This guy is spot on in regards to Jewish belief today but being Catholic he yields his criticism of his own in regards to the Church taking authority to “rid themselves” thru force of groups whom oppose them as he proclaims the Catholic Church did to Jews in western Europe.
He has many good points and I appreciate you sharing. You should know I hate no one but I do question all. This is good insight to the historical battles between the two groups.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 6:15pm@Upstate SC
Sorry for writing your name wrong earlier. Just caught that, my bad.
I agree Muslims teach an anti-Christ teaching. I also agree Daniel and Jesus were speaking of future events to them, but not necessarily to us.
The part debunking the Dome of Rock as the abomination of desolation is the whole chapter of Daniel 11.
“ 36And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
37Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.”
I do not believe any Muslim has declared themselves God and above all Gods. Muslims as you stated believe in a God. I do know of a group that has declared themselves God and came against Israel, Papal Rome.
Who destroyed the last Temple, Rome, after Christ.
Who did Muslims take Jerusalem from to build Dome of Rock, Rome.
I will look deeper into your thought of Dome of Rock being abomination of desolation. Thank you for your thoughts.
It is good to see someone reading God’s word and looking for truths as yourself. I appreciate you much.
Report Post »Huguenot Descendant
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 7:32pm@LibertariansUnite
1. You are darn right I brought that up again. You tell me where specifically it says in the bible Jesus disputed the Jews as not being the chosen people anymore? Give one instance as for you to claim otherwise justifies that you claim to know more about what God wants than any other person. That is a prime example of a “false prophet” which the Savior warned us to be weary of.
2. The Jewish people will come to accept Christ in due time. To condemn them for that is false ideology on your part. You speak of Christ but do not know of his teachings obviously.
3. You claim to be libertarian and you assume yourself to be smarter than others here, hence how you called those on The Blaze to be “sheep”. Yet you are frivolous of Glenn Becks success, and if you were a True libertarian why would you Care about what other people think or who they listen too? For you to criticize one you don’t even listen and call his audience sheep is not a true libertarian and does point you in the direction of a Liberal. As much as you want to deny it you should do research before claiming to be anything you preach on here.
4. So because Glenn Beck is posting articles of news that is actually happening and relevant you use that as an excuse to be hostile towards him and his fan base? If you want to start a blog and post Everything that happens Everywhere then be my guest. That is what a true Libertarian would do. Which again is another prime example of your false pr
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Posted on June 13, 2011 at 7:46pm@LibertariansUnite
5. Oh how much you failed to realize in this. Obviously you are not a historian. While yes Christians have killed those who didn’t convert it was not the idea base of the ENTIRE CHRISTIAN POPULACE, nor was it written in Christian teachings to kill those who did not convert. Also, Christians did not kill Millions as the Muslims did under this pretense. Plus unlike Muslims, Christians have repented and looked back on their previous actions as vile in accordance to their beliefs. But Muslims still remain unrepentant and continue to kill even today in order to make their faith dominant throughout the world. In other words in a Christian state like the US you can choose which faith to believe in, however in a Muslim state you will die if you don’t convert. Do you understand now the difference between Christians and Muslims? I hope so cause your ideology is ludicrous and your understanding of history is asinine. The bible teaches as those who repent of their sins will be forgiven in case you didn’t know. Are you sure you’re a Christian Libertarian cause signs point to you being a Liberal.
6. Oh I have no doubt our Government is utilizing oil. But if we were taking it from Iraq in order to pay back the debt they owe us that would be all over the main stream media and everyone knows it. “Bush lied” would be plastered everywhere without a hint of hesitation. So tell me what proof do you have to know what is happening? Please enlighten us all.
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Posted on June 13, 2011 at 8:03pmWhen will the world take these people at their word?
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Posted on June 13, 2011 at 8:08pm@LibertariansUnite
“And I doubt your a true Libertarian: simply because you accused me of being a “Liberal” in sheep’s clothing. Most of my stances are pretty common Libertarian ones.”
Excuse me? Unlike you I have researched every single thing I have talked on. I have been up and down Libertarian views and I can tell you I am a Libertarian Conservative same as Ron Paul. So far you haven’t exhibited any sense of Libertarianism in your views. You criticize without a full understanding, you claim to know what God himself has never made known, you accuse others with no proof and don’t help only hinder your own beliefs. These examples scream Liberal, NOT Libertarian.
“And you accused me of working for Soros? Cmon guy, yes I just cashed a Soros check, for 1 million dollars, for promoting Ron Paul on this website. Get real.”
You can promote Ron Paul all you want (though I never saw an instance where you promoted him), it still doesn’t mean a thing. At least you admitted to taking Soros cash though.
By the way, try and little more logic and a little less emotion in your posts, I thought you were going to cry for a second.
Excuse me? I am passionate what I believe in. Especially when I see a faker like you claiming to be what you’re not.
“Glenn Beck says he is a Libertarian.
Glenn Beck is a liar, he is a neocon.”
Prime example of everything I just said. Thank you for proving my point.
Report Post »TheObviousWorld
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 8:42pmWhat video are you watching. I don’t see anyone shooting anyone. The sound you hear is the rocks being thrown and it’s actually disturbing to hear when you see others standing around while others flee. When people over there can’t pray in peace what does that mean for groups over here. They throw rocks and over here Atheists, Islamists or other religious and non religious Christian haters burn churches down. If your a Jew who doesn’t stand for a Palestinian state and other progressive ideas your called “a bad Jew”. On the right if your of Christian faith who doesn’t support gay marriage but believe they are people too who deserve same rights and if some are willing to marry them then let it be you are a bad Christian. It is time that righteous religious groups stand united to defeat hatred amongst other religious groups by peacefully speaking to all people of faith about the fundamental fact that I solely tell everyone “hate is not the antidote to hate”.
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Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:04pm@Huguenot descendent
Here are quotes for point number one to LibertariansUnite. For the record I’ve found LibertarianUnite to be a Libertarian.
The Jews generally rejected Jesus, the true Messiah, therefore Jesus cursed the fig tree, which represents Israel, saying, “May you never bear fruit again!” (Mat. 21:18).
When the Jewish chief priests and elders questioned Jesus’ authority He said to them, “I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people [Gentiles] who will produce its fruit” (Mat. 21:43).
Near the end of Jesus’ earthly ministry Jesus said, ‘O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing. Look, your house is left to you desolate. (Mat. 23:37-38).
Look at the first crusade, Jew and Muslim fought together against “Christians” laying siege to Jerusalem. Muslim and Jews didn’t always fight.
Glenn Beck is more NEO-Con then Libertarian.
Quit drinking the KoolAide and think for yourself around this matter.
Report Post »www.IMovedOn.org
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:10pmRocks kill too.
I suppose if someone was going at you with a knife and you had a gun, you wouldn’t shoot the guy?
The point you were supposed to take away from this story is that only the Israelis will protect the rights of all to pray at their holy places.
This is fact.
Report Post »DETROIT JOHN
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:59pmThats right
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Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:32pm@HUGUENOT
Your entire argument was defeated when you accuse me of not promoting Ron Paul on this website.
You must be new here.
Ask around, and see if I am a solid Ron Paul supporter.
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Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:35pm@HUGUENOT
Do me a favor: Recap what your disagreements with me specifically, piece by piece, and I will be happy to rebuttal, but, your all over the board here.
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Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:40pmIll make it easy:
I believe in small government across the board, military and welfare state.
I believe in government being dismantled in pointless areas, FEMA, FDA (very limited if not gone), etc. etc.
I don’t believe in military intervention.
I don’t believe in the welfare state at all, social security, medicare, etc
I don’t think we should interfere with other nations sovereignty: Pakistan, Israel…
I believe in the strict following of the constitution for the federal government, which basically implies they do not have many functions. (States of course have much more options)
I believe in Free Market economics (Austrian)
So tell me exactly how I am not a Libertarian?
Report Post »Huguenot Descendant
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:06pm@Okie from Muskogee
Well that is good I am glad you found LibertariansUnite to be a Libertarian in your view. However I don’t know you, don’t know what you believe in, so why should I take your word for it?
As for the scriptures I can attest to this saying when you posted.
“The Jews generally rejected Jesus, the true Messiah, therefore Jesus cursed the fig tree, which represents Israel, saying, “May you never bear fruit again!” (Mat. 21:18).”
(Mat. 21:18) actually says this – “Now in the morning as he returned into the city he hungered.”
So I don’t know where you were going with this. But I can say in vineyard of the Lord look up (Mark 11:20-24) In which Jesus tell his apostles upon the fig tree he cursedest which withered away to have “Faith in god”.
“When the Jewish chief priests and elders questioned Jesus’ authority He said to them, “I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people [Gentiles] who will produce its fruit” (Mat. 21:43).”
Yes, this was written but this is when the house of Israel was scattered which has been done. However it is also written that is shall come back together. Please read the following – (Isa. 5:1-7),
Report Post »(Isa. 48:11) If you read these two chapters I am sure that you will see the House of Israel will always remain God’s chosen people.
Huguenot Descendant
Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:33pm@Okie from Muskogee
Look at the first crusade, Jew and Muslim fought together against “Christians” laying siege to Jerusalem. Muslim and Jews didn’t always fight.
Oh you mean like how Jerusalem was taken over by a Muslim caliphate so the Jews whom were being slaughtered at that time choose the lesser of two evils and some worked with the Muslims in order to stay alive? No formal relationship existed between the Jews and Muslims, in fact the Muslims treated the Jews as “lesser” after they took over. Why do you think the Crusades began anyway? In fact “Physical violence against Jews was never part of the church hierarchy’s official policy for crusading, and the Christian bishops, especially the Archbishop of Cologne, did their best to protect the Jews.” So if the Christian armies didn’t slaughter the Jews then perhaps the Jews would of joined their armies instead.
“Glenn Beck is more NEO-Con then Libertarian.”
Again, in what way is Glenn a Neo-Con? When did Glenn Beck ever say we should send our armies to Israel to defend them? What is your proof of this “theory”? Please enlighten us.
“Quit drinking the KoolAide and think for yourself around this matter.”
How mature of you. How about you quit sneaking behind LibertariansUnites incongruous remarks and think for yourself for once.
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Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:46pm@LibertariansUnite:
“Your entire argument was defeated when you accuse me of not promoting Ron Paul on this website.
You must be new here. Ask around, and see if I am a solid Ron Paul supporter.”
Excuse me? How does me saying that I haven’t seen you post a support of Ron Paul justify actions that my argument is frivolous? That doesn’t even make any sense, I didn‘t even dispute that you did or didn’t support Ron Paul, in fact I said “You can support him all you want”. All I said was I personally haven’t seen you support him. Also I would like to say that I have indeed been on the Blaze for sometime now, but just haven’t seen you around very much. Maybe I am just not interested in everything you say, think that might be the case, that the world doesn’t revolve around you? So please if you want to provide a link to where you have supported Ron Paul then by all means I will check it out. But that does not justify your wording as that is the cowards way out.
“Do me a favor: Recap what your disagreements with me specifically, piece by piece, and I will be happy to rebuttal, but, your all over the board here.”
What exactly do you want me to recap? My argument is pretty straight forward yet you seem to want to go off on a tangent due to your illogical reasoning. If you want to go through the 1 – 6 of the questionnaire and try to defend your words then be my guest. Otherwise you backing out just provides what you were actually basing your “lo
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Posted on June 14, 2011 at 12:16am@Huguenot descendant
I’m not asking you believe (trust) me around LibertarianUnites, I am for the record stating what I see from LibertariansUnites post.
Yes Matthew 21:18 on…The story of the fig Christ withered away then later confronted the Jews (Non Christ believers) in the remaining of the chapter around his parables. Christ explained if the Disciples had doubtless faith they too could wither the fig or cast a mountain to the sea. It isn’t by coincidence that the end of the chapter is Christ taking authority (withering away) from the Judaism belief (non productive rejecting) and giving it to Christians (believers of Judaism commandments/base and Jesus the messiah, fruitful).
“When the Jewish chief priests and elders questioned Jesus’ authority He said to them, “I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people [Gentiles] who will produce its fruit” (Mat. 21:43).”
Yes, this was written but this is when the house of Israel was scattered which has been done. However it is also written that is shall come back together. Please read the following – (Isa. 5:1-7)”
You agree Israel was scattered being described here in this verse, good. How does Isiah 5:1-7 relate to Jesus taking authority away from Judaism and scattering them by Roman desolation in 70AD for rejecting him as I don’t see the two being connected.
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Posted on June 14, 2011 at 1:05am@Huguenot descendant
Yes, the Jews at the time of the 1st crusade chose to fight with the Muslims who took control of Jerusalem from Rome because “Christians” were killing them throughout Europe and during the siege of Jerusalem. That should tell you something.
Glenn Beck is NEO-Con because he supports Israel economically and militarily and to believe he does not is naive. He supports Israel because it’s a “democracy” and by definition that is NeoCon.
Libertarian Constitutionalist as myself believes in minding our own business militarily and financially and not entangling ourselves in foreign affairs.
I hide behind no one and simply was correcting your take of LibertariansUnite not being Libertarian because you think we should entangle ourselves in foreign affairs and LibertariansUnite doesn’t. I know KoolAide can be good but put it down and see your less Libertarian by wanting to entangle in foreign affairs.
Have a great night.
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Posted on June 14, 2011 at 2:40am@Okie from Muskogee
“You agree Israel was scattered being described here in this verse, good. How does Isiah 5:1-7 relate to Jesus taking authority away from Judaism and scattering them by Roman desolation in 70AD for rejecting him as I don’t see the two being connected.”
In (Mat. 21:19) which you were apparently trying which talks about the fig tree it represents the vineyard being those in the House of Israel. Which means after the Lord scattered them due to the fact that they killed the prophets and apostles, he would once again bring them together because they are the Lords chosen people. Which he is doing now.
Romans 11:26: “. . . and so all Israel will be saved.”
Romans 11:1-6: “I ask then, did God reject his people? May it never be! For I also am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God didn’t reject his people, which he foreknew. Or don’t you know what the Scripture says about Elijah? How he pleads with God against Israel: ‘Lord, they have killed your prophets, they have broken down your altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.’ But how does God answer him? ‘I have reserved for myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to Baal.’ Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.”
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Posted on June 14, 2011 at 3:06am@Okie from Muskogee
““Christians” were killing them throughout Europe and during the siege of Jerusalem. That should tell you something.”
Apparently you didn’t read the history about how the slaughter was not what the Church had in mind. Do I have to quote again, this time listen carefully – “Physical violence against Jews was never part of the church hierarchy’s official policy for crusading, and the Christian bishops, especially the Archbishop of Cologne, did their best to protect the Jews.”
“He supports Israel because it’s a “democracy” and by definition that is NeoCon.”
True definition of a NEOCon – Neoconservatism in the United States is a branch of American Conservatism that is most known for its advocacy of USING American economic and military power to promote liberal democracy in other countries.
Glenn does not want to promote Liberal Democracy in Israel, he doesn’t want to send troops to Israel. He wants to Support Israel to let them defend themselves. Those are his words and actions. You prove me wrong where Glenn has said that he wants to send troops or money to Israel. Please, put your money where your mouth is and state ONE instant where he said that. Thing is I know you can’t, which proves just how much you know about NeoConservatism, or even Glenn Beck. Thank you for being in the same league as the MSM. Next time research what you are saying.
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Posted on June 14, 2011 at 11:11am@Okie from Muskogee
“Libertarian Constitutionalist as myself believes in minding our own business militarily and financially and not entangling ourselves in foreign affairs.”
You claim to have the same Libertarian Conservatism ideals as myself, yet you have not done your research and even have claimed that I drink Koolaid from something you have done no homework on. Yeah I like Glenn Beck, but I also know what he is about unlike yourself and LibertariansUnite. If you like to mock others so much because someone finds truth in another words than that is not what a Libertarian Conservatives is about. We are supposed to believe that everyone is free to do what they want and listen to whom they want and let the truth fill out the holes. So far you have wrongfully mocked Glenn Beck and his fan base following LibertariansUnites words which shows your own character. I would not wish to follow someone just because they claim to be a Libertarian, I would actually rather teach myself what to believe.
“I hide behind no one and simply was correcting your take of LibertariansUnite not being Libertarian because you think we should entangle ourselves in foreign affairs and LibertariansUnite doesn’t.”
Excuse me, Now you are putting words in my mouth!? When did I ever say that we should get involved in foreign affairs? Now you are lying about me! Your character has really shown to not be what was intended. You are not a libertarian, you are a liar.
Report Post »VegasGuy
Posted on June 14, 2011 at 11:48amAnother prime example of Islam being a religion of peace. ‘Nuff said.
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Posted on June 14, 2011 at 11:55amNo comment
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Posted on June 14, 2011 at 1:17pm@HugueNot
No not all Israel will be saved. Sorry your wrong. That is collectivism. Believe as you wish though.
Glenn Beck is NEO-Con and if Israel were attacked he would want the Us to support Israel. You show how much KoolAide you drink by thinking not. I’ll see what quotes I can find though for you.
Romans 11 speaks of broken branches, Jews broke off for not believing in Christ. Romans 11:14 is where Paul is going to save some Jews himself. He wouldn’t need to “save” them if they are all magically saved. Believe as you wish
Yes I am a Constitutional Libertarian. Who here is promoting support of Israel, YOU verbally. So since your “Libertarian” you would want to stop aid to Israel and remove all Military from Israel today, right? I do.
Liberal Democracy is a Constitutional Democracy and is exactly what the US/UN has tried to put in Israel. KoolAide drinker you are, yes. how embarrassing for you.
Take care.
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Posted on June 14, 2011 at 5:00pm@Okie from Muskogee
“No not all Israel will be saved. Sorry your wrong. That is collectivism. Believe as you wish though.”
Did I say that all of Israel will be save? Nope, I don’t believe I did, I think I quoted from the bible. Are you going against the bible which you so love to quote? Do you think the bible is wrong? If you want to discuss the difference between those who are Jewish and that which refers to Israel then perhaps you should read the bible again.
“Glenn Beck is NEO-Con and if Israel were attacked he would want the Us to support Israel.”
I gave you the definition of Ne-con and you still continue to say this? You’re one of those people who thinks 2 + 2 = 5 aren’t you? Well I will be waiting for those quotes so you can “prove me wrong”. Remember it has to be where Glenn has said that he wants to send troops and or funding to Israel.
“Yes I am a Constitutional Libertarian. Who here is promoting support of Israel, YOU verbally. So since your “Libertarian” you would want to stop aid to Israel and remove all Military from Israel today, right? I do. ”
So me supporting Israel to defend itself qualifies that I “Want to send aid and military to Israel?” What quote is this? Oh wait, that is right you’re a liar I forgot. Let me put this in words you understand, “I want Israel to be able to defend itself, and we the US to butt out”. Read my words carefully and maybe your head will be able to comprehend. Not expecting miracles though.
Report Post »rockpilefarmer
Posted on June 15, 2011 at 4:39pmSo tired of the Obama administration trying to foster peace in a region where peace can never be-at least not until Jesus comes back. This isn’t rocket science. The Bible say this is how it will be.
Now, if Obama DOES institute peace, and it is for 7 years….I feel really sorry for you people that don’t recognize what is about to happen.
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