Mission Accomplished: Scott Walker Signs Anti-Collective Bargaining Bill Into Law
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MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker has officially taken away nearly all collective bargaining rights from the vast majority of the state’s public employees.
Walker signed the bill to do so privately Friday morning. He planned an afternoon news conference in the Capitol.
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The explosive measure passed the Assembly on Thursday following more than three weeks of protests that drew tens of thousands of people to the Capitol in opposition. The Senate cleared the way for passage with a surprise move Wednesday that allowed them to vote on the bill without 14 Democratic senators present.
Walker has said if the bill didn’t pass up to 1,500 state workers could be laid off. He rescinded the layoff notices Friday morning.
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Comments (455)
neverending
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:20amGood going Governor Walker – we can no longer let them intimidate us. Can’t imagine how difficult it was for him to stand his ground and not give in but it certainly paid off and now hopefully we can win some more huge battles.
Report Post »Jim from Maine
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 10:20pmCngrats Gov. Walker …. we have a lot of the problems in Maine that you have in WI. This year, for the first time in around 40 years, we finally got rid of the democrats in the House, Senate and the Govenor’s office … a clean sweep. The air smells so much better here now … come to Maine “ The way life should be ” … they call Maine vacationland for a reason.
Report Post »B4tm4n
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:19amIt‘s still too early to say how this will affect Gov Walker’s re-election chances. I wish him luck. If this results in jobs moving into the state he will likely succeed. There is also the question of legal challenges to this chain of events. Something about not giving 24 hours notice. However, in my opinion, that is small change to the 14 democrats who refused to do their jobs. I hope the voters remember them and give them the boot.
Report Post »UlyssesP
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:13pmRe-election!?!?! Who cares! He’s not there to get re-elected. He is there to serve the people who Hired him for the term he was Hired for. He has done that and he did it well. When the time comes, his contract will be Renewed if his Performance is up to the expectations of his employers, the People of WI.
Report Post »00gabooga
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:17amWe should be seeing “Governor Walker Saves 1500 Jobs” sprawled across newspapers and news websites, but I won’t hold my breath.
Report Post »Codger
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:17amNo guts no glory.
Report Post »jmootispaw
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:17amYou are an American Hero and I applaud your courage and resolve to do what is right. Thank you sir. Now do you have any magic sprinkles which give your your super powers we that can dump over Washington DC?
Report Post »Rillobymorning
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:17amGreat job, Gov Walker! You’re a man of your word! A Stark contrast from most in Washington.
Report Post »Insanityrules
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:15amNow, if only they could clean house of all those union deadbeats that don’t do much other than cash their paychecks on time. The government is flooded with the likes of those.
Report Post »777jenn
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:14amYes! One for the side of good/ aka the Right! Hope he and his family stay safe. The evil ones know no limits.
Report Post »cap0ne
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:14amThanks Gov Walker!! I‘m so glad you didn’t cave!!
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:14amBravo!!!!
Ohio is next…..
TAXPAYER RIGHTS!
Report Post »beckwill
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:14amGreat job Gov. Walker!
Report Post »Lily1943
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:13amPlease keep Gov. Walker and his family in prayer he’ll be a target for the left. He’s a hero for the people.
Report Post »jpaul1963
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:13amWhat are the union haks going to do now????? Blow up the city???? These elite taxpayer employees want sympathy for their plite. Try working outside of gov’t unionized jobs so you can see the plite of the other 88% of Americans. I have no sympathy for these anarchists.
Report Post »dominke
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:21amI dont view these people as union members. Union used to be for workers. Today these people need to be labeled terrorist and treated so.
Report Post »bhscpa
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:32amThere will probably be work slowdowns, sickouts and other extortionate measures doled out by the unions to exact revenge against everyone.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:52am@bhscpa
“There will probably be work slowdowns, sickouts and other extortionate measures doled out by the unions to exact revenge against everyone.”
So in other words, kids in Wisconsin will be exposed to less government indoctrination and propaganda?
Yeah, that’s me, I find a silver lining in every cloud. :)
Report Post »daddy warbucks
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:13amHistory will record Gov. Walker as an Amercian Hero, this is a clear way forward
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:28amNo… Progressive history books will cast him and the Tea Party as racist bigots! They’ll take photos and video from the Union protests and tell brainwashed kids “this was the Tea party…”
Report Post »sleazyhippo
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:39amHey, Governor Walker says he had no choice – he is “broke” so no one should blame him. Last week Sarah pointed out that it’s not hard to make decisions when you have to! So he had no choice and did not have to do anything difficult. That should make him blameless and hold him free from any bad karma.
Report Post »conservativemum
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:12amGod Bless You Governor Walker. Wisconsin you LUCKY State !!! We really do need more of him ASAP!!!
Report Post »Comeandtakeit
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:12amFinally a Republican who does what is right instead of Politically convenient. A person of his word. I was a little worried there for a while. God Bless you Gov. Walker. As of today I am officially donating to your next campaign whatever it is.
Report Post »Whitemountain
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:11amhopefully this brings an end to the protests
Report Post »ADNIL
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:16pmthe protests will end when they turn off the cameras and microphones.
Report Post »Decker
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 2:01pmUnfortunately, The worthless self appointed reverend Jessie Jackson will not allow the protests to go away. He’ll keep them riled up.
Report Post »PimpBallWizard
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 4:46pmI wonder if the WI reps have CCW? If the thugs “escalate” their protests, as Jackson said, then the lawmakers will need to take the necessary security measures.
Report Post »kraphtsman
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:09amBold first step, Governor Walker ! You are an inspiration to those of us in Ohio who wish to see the playing field leveled for the average taxpayer. We’re next !!!!!!
Report Post »Buckeyefan4life
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:14amGod I hope so. Im tired of paying finflated prices or the low quality “product” of our state government employees
Report Post »teahugger
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:03pmGo Kasich!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:12pmWoot, I found the Ohio enclave! Just north of Columbus here, not far from where John K. live actually.
I’m hoping he does the right thing, and he seems to be making sounds that he will. I do worry about some of the holdover RINO’s in the state house though.
Report Post »CincinnatiPol
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:32pmBlow your ram horns! My U.S. history students and I prayed frequently for you, Gov. Walker! I even gave a quiz on your crisis. Congratulations! I am relieved you and colleagues are safe. One little worry: could a knowledgeable Wisconsinite reassure me re the 24 hour waiting period that the GOP State Senators did not observe? Is it because what they voted on was part of a bill publically posted for 3 weeks? I read that the clerk said the procedure was proper. Are the complaints just angry rants ?
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:16pm@CincinnatiPol
The reason why the Senate in Wisconsin cannot be considered as illegal by passing the bill is because in a regular session the bill would have to be posted for 24 hours. The Senate was in special session when they passed the bill which requires no posting time whatsoever. BTW the bill was posted for 2 hours before the vote was taken so it cannot be legally challenged at all.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:29pm@Blackhawk1
So that’s how they did it! I knew the 24-hour rule, with an exception allowed for a 2-hour notice. I was wondering what legal allowance they used to make the vote iron-clad under the law. Thanks for the heads up; that removes one festering concern I had.
Outstanding…
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on March 12, 2011 at 12:08amFrom OH also, I’m praying for Gov Kasich and those who are working to apply an antidote to the poison which repeated dems & progs have been spoonfeeding our economy and topped off with the stricknine of the last 8 yrs. When growing up I noticed sometimes OH prospered, sometimes it didn’t, but it took a while for me to realize that majorities in the G A and Senate, along with the gov’s manse made such a large difference. May God guide our elected officials. {Is this anything like “God save the Queen?}
Report Post »rnurmikko
Posted on March 12, 2011 at 7:07amOhio has been aided greatly by Walker. If you live in Ohio, buy some Wisconsin cheese and give a brother a break.
Report Post »CaptGregg
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:09amCongratulations to Gov. Walker, a politician that kept his promise.
Report Post »debkk9
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:44amI wish we had one of those in Illinois :(
Report Post »Romans828
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 7:08pmDEBKK9 – actually you have 14 of them….. except instead of keeping their promises to us, their constituents, they kept the ones to THEIR fat-cat donors – the unions. Too bad it didn’t work out so well for them.
It was awful here the past 3 weeks, folks. The stories I could tell you. Sadly, it’s not over. The casualties will likely be heavy. The secretary of state is stalling the publishing of the bill (he can hold it for 10 days if he wants to), and in the meantime, liberal municipalities and school boards are deliberately locking themselves into long-term contracts. There are all kinds of (frivolous) lawsuits filed with liberal judges. Recalls are in full swing. If we lose three of the 8 Republicans they’re targeting, the majority flips. We are already getting survey calls about Walker, and he can’t even be recalled until next year. Before you think about this snowballing to other states, we have to win here.
Report Post »mrsmileyface
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:09amNow the countdown is on for the Feds to overturn the State of Wisconson autonomous law. Tick tick tick tick.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:07pmthey cant, and they wont
Report Post »Decker
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:59pmYou think just because they “cant” they wont? When has that ever stopped the federal gov’t?
Report Post »Troublemade
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:08amGood deal !!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:06amWell played Gov. Walker, well played!
Report Post »mrclean
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:27amThis was one he!! of a battle. Hopefully no PTSD for the good Gov. And we the people will not forget the terroristic tactics & threats employed by the left designed to instill fear into the WI taxpayers and governor.
WI-N!
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:15pmI would be willing to wager that if any recall is attempted with the repubs a recall of the dems who fled the state will also be put in motion.
You could end up with every elected official involved being recalled.
expect all out lunacy.
Report Post »My-Hero-is-Allen West
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:05amScott Walker is proven he is the man who can help fix the problems in Wis. He will need all the support from the people who he as fought so hard to serve. We all know he will be a major target for years to come. Please keep this man and his family as well all the others who had the balls to make this tough but necessary decision.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:33amIt will be interesting to see what happens in the recall elections. Should Republicans prevail, I don’t think Gov. Walker will be have a recall. Should the progressives keep or gain seats, it will bear watching.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 3:16pm@Dale, you can rest assured, the only ones losing seats will be the dems. The recalls the repubs are doing are all in areas Walker won by a large margin. The seats the dems are trying to recall were all won by a large margin by walker except for one. He only won by a few points. This isn’t going to go well for the dems.
Report Post »Outstate, at least away from Madistan, this lefty rhetoric doesn’t play. Some places people gathering signatures will need armed guards. Kinda funny eh?
earthrise
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 6:36pmgentlemen, gentlefem;
this vote means nothing (a great victory and a baby step nonetheless…)
a possible recall will prove a “Grand Ol’ ” waste of time and $$$….
a repeal will prove impossible (everything will prove to have been done within perameters….)
The VOTE that will matter is the one that tens of thousands of state workers (for the first time in memory….) will make to either pay union dues ($700 – $1000 per year) OR take a pay raise…..
methinks even liberals will be able to figure this one out……. lmao!!!
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:05amCheers!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:09amAll’s well that ends well!
1500 jobs gone, or take a slight payment against your own retirement…hmmmm….tough choice.
Not.
Report Post »Whatsizface
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:15amA politician with cajónes.
Next state?
Report Post »TexasProgressive
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:16amJeff – this wasn’t about $$…it was about collective bargaining
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:26amWhat would cap this off nicely would be the Governor and his fellow GOP members walking across the state house lawn with him holding a huge gavel. :)
Heavily guarded by extremely highly armed men of course.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:31amAnd collective bargaining is about $$$ when it comes to taxpayer funded employees.
Government unions are government employees unionizing against taxpayers, and then negotiating their own perks with other government employees, whose campaigns they contribute to with union dues, which are paid from their taxpayer provided salaries. Taxpayers are not party to, nor invited to, any of these negotiations. That is no end of bad mojo right there brother. It’s not often I agree with FDR, but in this case I’m going to have to stand with him on this one.
Private unions are another matter entirely, I’ve nothing against them per se. Public though, no, they need to go away and never return.
Report Post »luvtheright
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:39amWAY TO GO GOV. WALKER & REPUBS! WE THE TAXPAYERS are behind you for taking a stand and getting rid of “collective bargaining” for your state! Just think – a Governor who ACTUALLY protects TAXPAYERS’ $$$$$!
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 5:43pmWell TP (oddly fitting nickname for you here) you are partly right. Yes is is ALSO about collective bargaining. See by removing the overwhelming power that the unions have attained and the extortion of taxpayer money through promulgation between them and the democrats they hoist into office the state is then able to better use the funds obtained through taxes by utilizing them for the people instead of being forced into paying into an unsustainable system of over reaching promises. It’s about both. To ignore that fact only shows your lack of critical thinking ability.
Report Post »MBA
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:04amThank you Gov, Walker and Wisconsin.
Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:09amFinally getting something done to save some state money.
BuckOfama
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:11amThank you Governor Walker.
Report Post »According to Obama math you have already created 1,500 jobs. WINNING…….
leftiesaredangerous
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:13amOne down…
Report Post »TexasProgressive
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:15amYou think this will bring the best and brightest into the teaching profession? Isn’t that what we want?
dominke
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:18amThanks governor,the america people are behind you. The terrorist have lost this battle.
Report Post »iwantmycountryback
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:18amYes! Thank you Govenor Walker!!! It is so nice to finally have a “W” in our column for a change..
48
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:19amGov Walker doing what’s right, thank you. Tough decisions are not easy.
Beckofile
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:21amHow can a public Union bargain with the politician that they helped get elected with money and time? I think the only person not at the table is the taxpayer. The two public employees collectively bargain away our money. This should become illegal because it resembles corruption and unequal rights. For every right they bargain for we the taxpayer loose a right to keep our personal property. The MSM has held this up as a rights issue while never talking about the right to limited government and private property (money) for the tax paying private worker???????? madddddddniiiinnnnggggg Workers of the union unite and join the private sector in the missery of a crappie economy which our big government politicians have delivered. Welcome to the real world spoiled little loons!
Report Post »butler180
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:22amThe Unions will be after the Republicans for doing what is best for the tax payers of WI. Gov Walker and the rest of the Republicans are very brave and need our support. I hope the Gov. of my state will be as brave and stand up to the Union thugs.
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:22am“The true SHAME is that 2/3 of Wisconsin 8TH GRADERS CANT READ OR WRITE PROFICIENTLY, and ONLY 45% OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS GRADUATE ( 35%) AMONG AFR AMERICANS in Wisconsin. Pathetic!”
And the solution to that is making the teaching profession even less desirable.
exdem
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:23amI can’t post now. I‘m too busy doin’ my HAPPY DANCE!!!!!!
Report Post »old.school.mama
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:23amwooo hooo!!!!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:24am@TexasProgressive
“You think this will bring the best and brightest into the teaching profession? Isn’t that what we want?”
Why yes, I do. Now the best and brightest can count on being rewarded at a higher level than those who are either just putting in time, or who are utterly slacking off. It would suck to be an exemplary employee and have your pay raises and bonuses restricted to the level of the worst employee via contract.
So yes, now winners and people with tiger blood get to prosper! It’s win win!
nothingbuthetruth
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:24amThank you Gov. Walker and the republicans. You all showed so much class and the democrats showed the world what democracy looks like. Save the republic!!!!!
Report Post »keaton
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:24amFor Scott Walker to win the public overwhelmingly, what he should do is set up a web site, listing the exact financial compensation for every one of Wisconsin‘s 175000 employee’s. He could do it alphabetically with what they get this year, what they get next year, and future fpension mbenefits. There is nothing like the general populace being able to see what people they know, who work for goverment, earn, so they can compare with what they themselves get. Public servants, public compensation.
dc5
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:25amto TEXASPROGRESSIVE: It will probably not bring the best and brightest to these positions, but it WILL get rid of the mediocre teachers for sure.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:25amWalker signed his own pink slip and the pink slips for 8 GOP senators. Let the recalls begin and remove the Koch lackeys from power.
Also it is doubtful that the courts will allow this illegal law to stand, given that the process violated several Wisconsin State laws. Walker should be impeached.
nothingbuthetruth
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:28ammaybe they can rehire the teacher of the year who got the boot because low seniority is what it is all about in the union.
Report Post »exdem
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:29am@TEXASPROSTATEGLAND
We saw the teachers protesting and dragging students with them who didnt even know why they were there. If thats our best and brightess, and their display of dedication, we don’t need them. Who wants communist, classless, progressive bullies to teach our kids ?? Lets throw them all out, desolve the department of education,defund National Education Association, kill tenure and start over!!!!!
nothingbuthetruth
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:31amencinoman… Obamacare has been ruled unconstitutional. Did you know? Walker and the Republicans did not break any laws. If anything the democRATS who fled broke ethic laws
Report Post »sleazyhippo
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:33amLets get down to Cut Spending! Lets Return to 1999 Federal budget levels within the next 5 years, and eliminate any agencies and programs started since 15 January 2000.
Report Post »exdem
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:35ambrightest
Report Post »obfuscatenot
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:36amThis will weed out the greedy. The good teachers WILL remain.
Report Post »Those that are there for the right reasons.
UpstateNYConservative
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:39am@TXprog and Non-Seq
With the union hamstrung, and hopefully one day out of the way, bad teachers might be canned and good teachers can finally get merit raises. Do you two know that unions always fight AGAINST merit raises? They have since the 80s, if not longer. You two call that ‘representation’?
There was a teacher in the PA county where I used to live who ‘helped’ a preteen girl off a balance beam by copping a feel. Instead of being arrested and fired, he was simply transferred to another school in the county, with the matter covered up.
I can tell you of two incidents I ‘enjoyed’, battling teachers and the school admin. I’ll spare the details, but the first fight took four weeks and the second took six. I won in the end, both times. But I learned a lot about how things works.
Let’s try a reverse of your (self-presumed) reasoning: Maybe without the unions, more and better people might be attracted to the profession. It’s insane (read: liberal) to think people go into a profession only for the money. I mean, who studies chemistry without having a desire for and fascination with the curriculum? What rock musician plays guitar if he doesn’t have a love for his ax?
Your arguments are as phony as a nine-peso wooden coin. I’d suggest you learn how to truly reason but, then again, doing that would cause you to stop being liberal.
Report Post »AKMIIKEUS
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:40amYes Thank You Gov Walker, thank you for energizing the Left and all the Unions.
Once you are voted out, this too will change. The Right want to repeal Obama care, We will repeal the damage you have done. Thank you again, if you only knew what you have started, but we will finish it.
My Two Cents
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:43amTEXASPROGRESSIVE: By any standard, my sister would be considered as one of the best and the brightest teachers in Texas and I know for a fact that she would quit before she became a slave to a union. She has something called dignity.
Report Post »fertlmind
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:43amNow THAT’s LEADERSHIP
Report Post »in your face Obamma!
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:45am@sleazyhippo
“Lets get down to Cut Spending! Lets Return to 1999 Federal budget levels within the next 5 years, and eliminate any agencies and programs started since 15 January 2000.”
That would be a good down payment on moving towards the correct path. Though frankly I think you’re being a bit too soft. I’d reduce the budget to 1990 levels and eliminate agencies and programs started since 1990. Then once that was done, start working from there to reduce it further.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:50am@ NON-SEQUITUR………..Your post name applies perfectly to your post sir. “It does not follow” at all that being able to get rid of terrible under achieving teachers and getting new and bright people who are anxious to have jobs, are educated, and not burned out into those roles. Especially if they know if they don‘t get’er done they may get the axe next. You know kind of like the real world when you don’t perform your job well. That was a ridiculous comment.
Report Post »HUGGINGMYBABIES
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:57amThank you Scooter! Thank you thank you thank you! Guess what? The world DIDN’T end! Go figure! Boom, WINNING!
Report Post »Angry_Bird
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:58amThis is what democracy looks like ! ! ! !
Report Post »ilovethiscountry
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:01pm@MBA
I agree, As a Wisconsin independant voter, I am happy this is finally law. This is why I voted for Gov. Scott Walker.
I met a friend last night who is married to a correctional officer. They are going to to be protesting in town and then in Madison because her husband has been working for the state for 22 years and under this law that will count for nothing. I know that is not true, but that is what the union leaders have been telling the workers. No wonder they are angry.
justanamerican
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:02pmPosted on March 11, 2011 at 11:22am
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NO, THE SOLUTION IS TO GET RID OF THE FAILING MORONS , AND PUT PEOPLE IN THERE WHO REALLY , ACTUALLY “ DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN” .. not for the 200 days per year OFF, enormous benefits, and support for dem politicians who exacerbate the riches for teachers and problems for students and taxpayers.. Private school and charter school teachers make HALF what those idiots get and do a MUCH MUCH MUCH better job with better results.. Wake up fool!
Report Post »tinydd
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:04pmThe taxpayers have spoken through the WI govt, enough is enough.
The next thing to watch for is other states telling the unions that they will not accept the backroom deals, which were done with previous Dem govt’s.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:08pm@ GhostOfJefferson & DC5
Yes it will.
The best part about this is that it has sent a message to the teachers of other states that they better start thinking of some way of standing out or the same fate may happen to them.
The students reap the benefits in the short-term and the country as a whole will benefit in the long run.
BTW, it’s not only the slacker teachers that are getting this message….
Report Post »Modern Patriot
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:11pmENCINOM
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:25am
Walker signed his own pink slip and the pink slips for 8 GOP senators. Let the recalls begin and remove the Koch lackeys from power.
Also it is doubtful that the courts will allow this illegal law to stand, given that the process violated several Wisconsin State laws. Walker should be impeached.
*********
You simply must stop drinking that Kool Aid. Once the results are seen Walker will be a hero. It was the Union boss lackeys who have been removed. Give a shout out for me at the Union Hall and OFA.
As to the law being overturned all they have to do is pass the original when the dems return, which they will at some point, and its moot then. Good luck on those recalls too. Time to move on and add something constructive to the discussion, if you can.
Report Post »jblaze
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:11pmAwesome! Thank you Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker! A man of courage and conviction!
TSUNAMI-22
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:11pmLet Governor Walker hold a special election to really see if those absentee democrats would get voted out.
This would be the perfect time to drop the political guillotine on those guys & gals.
Report Post »ltb
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:17pmGhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:24am
@TexasProgressive
“You think this will bring the best and brightest into the teaching profession? Isn’t that what we want?”
Why yes, I do. Now the best and brightest can count on being rewarded at a higher level than those who are either just putting in time, or who are utterly slacking off. It would suck to be an exemplary employee and have your pay raises and bonuses restricted to the level of the worst employee via contract.
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The average cost per year to educate a child in a Christian school is ~$3,000, compared to $9,000+ in public schools, yet children who graduate from Christian schools average 10% higher scores on the SAT. Even though teachers at Christian schools make next to nothing, I have never heard of them going on strike because they felt like they weren’t being paid enough. Christian Americans have allowed a very small minority of loud mouth atheists to remove God from our public schools and what’s the result? Pretentious school buildings that neighborhoods can’t afford, drug dogs roaming the corridors of elementary schools, metal detectors at the entrances to high schools, smart alec kids who couldn’t reason their way out of a wet sack and teachers who don’t think $75,000 a year is enough compensation.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:18pm@encinom,
“How brain dead are you, when you consider those proud americans fighting for basic worker rights terrorists, while a corrupt GOP used illegal methods to pass a law to strip rights from citizens.”
Since, in the public sector, the money belongs to the taxpayer, the government workers should not get to bargain anything.
Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed.
“Polls both liberal and conservative show that the American people are standing with the American worker not with the Koch puppet Walker.”
Again, you make a false dichotomy between “American worker” and “Koch”. Koch is in fact an American worker, and has the right to keep and spend his money however he wants, just like everyone else.
Report Post »Mettag
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:19pmGood this passed. Bad way to get it passed though. Conservatives need to be above the underhanded tricks the progressives use to get items passed. They should have stuck to there guns and not done anything until the dems came back. nationally they were winning the pr battle.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:20pmGood for Wisconsin … this IS good for America .. and thank you Governor Walker and all those who voted FOR the bill.
Report Post »IAMMADDOG
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:24pmWhat a lot of you liberals here don’t know is there are a LOT of public employees (teachers included) who are doing their happy dance because they have finally gotten WEAC out of their pockets. A LOT. I don’t believe the union calculated this fact. So for those of you libs who think this is going to be thrown out in court or that these senators are going to get recalled. Think again. It’s not going to happen. Akimeus or whatever your moniker is you need to finish wiping your rearend before you go starting fights with anyone.
Report Post »VegasGuy
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:29pmIf you want to know what is wrong with public education in America you need look no further than the “union label.”
Let’s hope this new law allows WI to fire bad teachers.
Report Post »Tryharder
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:29pmCongrats to Gov. Walker & the Republicanas for hanging tough. The reign of unbridled union power is beginning to decay, finally.
Report Post »BlazingInSC
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:33pm@Encicom – The GOP did nothing wrong in how they passed this legislation. They followed the letter of the law in doing what they did. Those crying about not being represented need to take a long and hard look at why — because 14 Democrats fled the state and chose not to do their jobs in representing their constituents. THOSE are the people who should be recalled in this process. Don’t worry though, 200,000 of the protesters will all go back to their home states and the super minority union represented public employees will learn to live with their new found reality that more closely resembles real life… Anyhow, since you want to make the charge that these GOP Senators acted illegally, I’d be interested in you providing REAL substantive facts to back up the charges — or do you still prefer to just play off of peoples emotions by using such frightening words like “illegal”?
Report Post »ltb
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:38pm@encinom,
“How brain dead are you, when you consider those proud americans fighting for basic worker rights terrorists, while a corrupt GOP used illegal methods to pass a law to strip rights from citizens.”
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If these people don’t like their jobs, they need to quit. Employers don’t owe employees anything, period, which is why you had better make sure you want to work somewhere BEFORE you accept a job offer.
Report Post »Modern Patriot
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:38pmENCINOM
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:28am
dominke
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:18am
Thanks governor,the america people are behind you. The terrorist have lost this battle.
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How brain dead are you, when you consider those proud americans fighting for basic worker rights terrorists, while a corrupt GOP used illegal methods to pass a law to strip rights from citizens.
Polls both liberal and conservative show that the American people are standing with the American worker not with the Koch puppet Walker.
You really need to start considering some alternate sources for information before calling anyone brain dead. 1st of all collective bargaining does not fall into the category of basic workers rights. Those rights are provided by state and federal laws. And while I am sure you have already heard federal workers don’t have collective bargaining.
Now I don’t think I would call them terrorist, but based on their actions over the last couple of weeks it seems that Socialists, Communists, etc. would be accurate. And liars, and cheats, sore losers, sissies, spoiled brats, you get the idea. I can‘t believe they started off by getting phony sick notes from doctor’s (whom I dearly hope get fined large amounts of money), so they could protest and still get paid. That‘s real skin in the game and that’s just one small example. The whole group did nothing but show the rest of the country who and what they really are, and who stands with them. They couldn’t have provided better campaign commercials for Republicans for the next cycle if they tried.
Don’t even try it with illegal GOP methods, it was very legal as you will see in the end. Now the Dems leaving town like a bunch of (baby kittens) on the other hand is illegal and at minimum shows cowardice.
Have a Nice Day!!!
Take a look at the polls in a month and tell me what you see as this wave moves across the country. Time to get on the right side of things and stop backing the corrupt unions.
Report Post »DirectlyUnPCman
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:46pmStupid liberals haha, you thought you were so smart leaving town. All you did was show your true colors, and the people will not forget. You helped us more than you know, and then we got our way anyhow. How does that feel? This is the garbage you have been doing for 40 years. Its about to all get turned back on you. Adios fools, your days are numbered. America, REAL America, is awake.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:51pmWisconsin taxpayers finally have a representative sitting at the bargaining table with the unions. Now that bad teachers and lazy public workers can get fired we will see how long these corrupt unions last. The morally corrupt teachers that rape and indoctrinate the kids they are suppose to be teaching can pack their bags because your day of reckoning has come.
Report Post »glennbeckisstooopid
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:52pmYes I am so glad he did it this way, now we can truly see the corrupt walker for what he is, a less than half term gov. He and the rest of the repuglys are done.I can’t wait for the fun to begin.Recall anyone? I’d say soon to be ex-Gov Walker should start packing his bags.
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:58pmTo the trolls on here that are wanting to impeach Walker and the Senators, Maybe you will have better luck with your “dreams” than we have had with ours, Of course I guess it is easier to get a Governnor out of office that has done “nothing” wrong, than it is to Oust a President that TRUMPS all over the Constitution, uses truly unethical means to pass most everything, that hates the USA is in bed with criminals, the Unions(kinda redundent there) communist and destroying everything the US has always stood for,and has alienated all our allys and Loves the Dictators.I am not sure even if we get a Republican in office in 2012 that they can repair all the damage that AMERICAN HATING FOOL has done to hurt us. This country has never been witness to anything comparable to the destruction OBAMA has brought upon the United States using his Chicago style politics and with such total incompantcy as an administrator. At least Walker has had experience and knows what it takes to help repair what has been done to the State. It is a good thing Obama has a Valet otherwise the fool would be unable to even tie his shoes, In fact I have never looked but I bet he wears Loafers just for that reason. I am having a bad day in case anyone was wondering.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:06pmA Great day…The day Walker walked on the unions!!
Report Post »bullcrapbuster
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:08pmThis does not hurt anyone but the union progressive movement. The workers can now opt out of the union and save $1000 per year. Within a year or two the teachers and taxpayers will find out that they are better off without being controled by huge rich,power hungry union organizations that use the working person to gain wealth and power by robbing the taxpayer. The pendulum begans to swing the other way.
Report Post »Walker was very wise to do the tough stuff early, now he has a few years to prove that he was right. From my experience at least half of the people that belong to a union feel coerced into compliance.
UpstateNYConservative
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:17pm@sissykatz
I’m in a bad mood, too. So remind me not to debate you on anything.
These calls for recall votes and impeachment are just the usual liberal gibber. They’re like a brat thumbing his nose at his enemy from a block away, then dashing down the street and home to mommy.
It’s all a show, because the liberals lost this round for now. Sure, they might well ‘win’ in the end, but there’s no proof at the moment they can be certain of outcome. And that’s what galls them! People used to instant and total gratification don’t have patience, and their stripes will show. Expect violence, more threats, and all else the Left does. The longer this plays out, the more clearly liberalism is seen. More might join their ranks but, really, the majority will decry them.
This isn’t over by a long shot, and in some ways it’s a cover. Other states have passed or have pending similar legislation. The Left doesn’t want that known, but savvy people are aware.
Let the liberals rant. Their time, it seems, has come and is one the way to being gone.
Report Post »Shawn-GA
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:19pmThis is a win-win-win
Report Post »1) The country is now aware of the normally dark room actions of unions
2) If it stays as is then WI wins (especially the children)
3) If it gets overturned because it was voted on in a special patrolman maneuver and that is deemed not able to stand. That then sets a president to get rid of Obamacare as it was passed the same way without the minimum needed votes
Shawn-GA
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:22pmerrrr patrolman = parliamentary
No idea how that came up as patrolman :-)
Report Post »restorehope
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:28pmNow THIS is hope to build on, America. Finally, we have a resolute and honest politician in Scott Walker. He has fulfilled his campaign promises and has done so with tremendous courage. Mitch Daniels also faced enormous union opposition when he defanged collective bargaining in Indiana a few years ago. Though predicted that it would destroy him politically, he turned the state around financially and won re-election in a landslide. Walker, too, will be blessed tomorrow by what he has done today.
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:31pmfunny contradiction in unions. connecticut is rasing taxes on middle class families( $500 less property tax credit and $1500 more on income taxes) for families making between 50k-100k. Governor malloy is damanding 2 bill in union concessions from all state employees(20k per employee), he is going to lay of 10% of state workers and hire them back as perdiem employees with reduced pay and no benefits. This prevents them from collecting unemployment benefits and makes them pay union dues. The Unions are with the super manjority Democrat House, senate and Governor. Governor malloy actually marched in solidarity with the unions of Wisconsin and is making severe cuts to union members in Connecticut at the same time raising taxes on the working middleclass to pay for instate tuition for illegal immigrants and an income tax credit for those on welfare. The unions should be marching in Connecticut, but they are not, they are partying with the governor. it is hard to figure out.
Report Post »Progessives=Fail
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:35pmI wonder what kind of thuggery we can expect from the oh so tolerant and peace loving progressives now.
One good thing about this whole episode was that the progressives exposed themselves, they did more damge to themselves than Beck could ever do. Now I guess it’s time for the tea party to go pick up the trash and clean up after these low-lives. Take your drum circle elsewhere, like maybe back to the 60′s where it belongs.
Report Post »Tundra4x4
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:36pmWow!!!! They did it!!! This is but the starting point. Don’t stop here! Strip the unions to the bone. They just about succeeded in he total destruction of the country. Every last one of them should have been fired when they failed to show up for work and were identified as being at the capital protesting.
Report Post »Progessives=Fail
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:39pmFinally, some hope and change we can beleive in! :)
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:41pmGreat day for Wisconsin…even Greater day for America!
Report Post »ChaCha
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:46pmGood for you Gov Walker and to the rest of the republican congress. It’s incredible to me that the Dems continue to cry about being shut out when they were the ones to leave.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:47pmTexasProgressive
Report Post »Teachers have never been the best and the brightest. Education starts in the home and that‘s where it’s failing. You could pay every teacher $150K and test scores would continue to decline until parents take responsibility for their child’s education.
UpstateNYConservative
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:47pm@ishka4me
Oh, that’s easy: Wisconsin is a test case. The Dems and unions can make deals together, and the rank-and-file are the ones covering the costs. That works, because the politicians and union heads are making out. Wisconsin is different.
What Walker is doing is giving every citizen more liberty, more control over what Madison does. Instead of business as usual, where only the top fat cats get a seat, WI is setting up so that when the train comes in, everybody rides.
Harm to the unions directly harms the Dem Party. CT isn’t changing a thing, except to cost the people more. Wisconsin is doing the opposite, which has the unions going bonkers. Their heyday might be over.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 1:59pmThank you and Wisconsin for cutting one of the ropes binding our freedom.
Only 49 states to go (56 if you’re a Muslim occupying the White House).
Thank you for setting an example for the rest of the Nation.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 2:10pm@Encinom ~
“How brain dead are you, when you consider those proud americans fighting for basic worker rights terrorists, while a corrupt GOP used illegal methods to pass a law to strip rights from citizens.
Polls both liberal and conservative show that the American people are standing with the American worker not with the Koch puppet Walker.”
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How brain dead are YOU, when the GOP did NOTHING ILLEGAL, waited for three (3) weeks for the chicken-livered DEMOCRATS to RETURN TO THE STATE, and put the government in charge of their employed teachers instead of the other way around.
Whose government is this anyway? A government for the PEOPLE, of the people, and by the people, or is it a government for the UNIONS, of the unions, and by the unions?
Don’;t you think you have crapped on WE THE PEOPLE’s Constitution enough already? There is no God-given right for unions. Non-union citizens have rights, though, under the Constitution.
Geez! Another screwed-up liberal!
Report Post »riaf-decnalab
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 2:12pmENCINOM
I worked 30 years as a college educated engineer in a machine tool business. That same company had no union employees. Our competitors in the same industry that had unions went out of business long before my company (10-15 years prior). My company finally had to shut our doors due to the inability to compete with the international market which could just beat our pants off in pricing. That is the fair market system. I think unions had their place in the early 1900‘s but have grown to such a huge out of control monster that they’ve priced the American market right out of any competitive strategy. ENCINOM, I’ve seen your posts before and beleive you to be a true Christian. God forgive us all and have mercy on us (both sides of the aisle). This governor is doing what he was elected to do and is not going to cave to any demands from the left. You are correct in saying that the next election will tell the future tale but possibly/likely wrong in it’s outcome.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 2:14pm@AKMIIKEUS
Report Post »Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:40am
Yes Thank You Gov Walker, thank you for energizing the Left and all the Unions.
Once you are voted out, this too will change. The Right want to repeal Obama care, We will repeal the damage you have done. Thank you again, if you only knew what you have started, but we will finish it.
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Dream on, Mike! Why do you think the GOP governor and legislators were voted in? Now that bargaining rights have been stripped, perhaps there will be more students GRADUATING in Wisconsin. The teachers will have to actually TEACH in order to keep their jobs, instead of wasting time and money protesting at the expense of the children’s education.
encinom
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 2:17pmHere is why Walker and the Koch party broke the law with the bill to stripe citizens of their rights, the bill is a clear violation of several Wisconsin laws including the open meeting law, than again, the Koch Party never cared much about the law or the citizens.
http://danedocs.countyofdane.com/webdocs/pdf/press/Legal_Filing.pdf
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 2:18pm@keaton
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:24am
For Scott Walker to win the public overwhelmingly, what he should do is set up a web site, listing the exact financial compensation for every one of Wisconsin‘s 175000 employee’s. He could do it alphabetically with what they get this year, what they get next year, and future fpension mbenefits. There is nothing like the general populace being able to see what people they know, who work for goverment, earn, so they can compare with what they themselves get. Public servants, public compensation.
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Great idea. It’s public knowledge anyway, because any citizen can request a copy of the state’s salary audit!
Good thinking! Saves on printing!
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 2:21pm@sissykatz
Report Post »Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:58pm
To the trolls on here that are wanting to impeach Walker and the Senators, Maybe you will have better luck with your “dreams” than we have had with ours, Of course I guess it is easier to get a Governnor out of office that has done “nothing” wrong, than it is to Oust a President that TRUMPS all over the Constitution, uses truly unethical means to pass most everything, that hates the USA is in bed with criminals, the Unions(kinda redundent there) communist and destroying everything the US has always stood for,and has alienated all our allys and Loves the Dictators.I am not sure even if we get a Republican in office in 2012 that they can repair all the damage that AMERICAN HATING FOOL has done to hurt us. This country has never been witness to anything comparable to the destruction OBAMA has brought upon the United States using his Chicago style politics and with such total incompantcy as an administrator. At least Walker has had experience and knows what it takes to help repair what has been done to the State. It is a good thing Obama has a Valet otherwise the fool would be unable to even tie his shoes, In fact I have never looked but I bet he wears Loafers just for that reason. I am having a bad day in case anyone was wondering.
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You’re having a bad day? Fooled me! That was outstanding!
Showtime
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 2:29pm@encinom
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 2:17pm
Here is why Walker and the Koch party broke the law with the bill to stripe citizens of their rights, the bill is a clear violation of several Wisconsin laws including the open meeting law, than again, the Koch Party never cared much about the law or the citizens.
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Don’t be preaching to us about broken laws, okay, not until your sweetie in the White House gets his Communists dismissed, strips his czars of power, and does away with the unconstitutional regulatory agencies that are bypassing Congress.
I don’t like paying for a shadow government set up to overthrow the U.S.
Report Post »MrMark
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 2:30pmThank you, Governor Walker, for having the spine to do what is right rather than what is to your political benefit.
> TEXASPROGRESSIVE
> Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:15am
> “You think this will bring the best and brightest into the teaching profession? Isn’t that what we
> want?”
Those of us paying attention know this has never been about teachers. Teachers were trotted out as a distraction in an attempt to gain sympathy from those not paying attention – a typical leftist tactic. This has been about reigning in the greed and avarice of government employee unions in order to get a state budget under control.
It isn’t about teachers – it’s about money, and how the unions have been bleeding the state at every turn and using a significant portion of that money to buy the politicians who will sell their souls to the communist agenda of the union leadership. That funding didn’t work in the most recent election because the people realized there was a problem which must be corrected, so they elected the man who they thought was the best choice for correcting that problem.
As Barack Obama has said, elections have consequences. Either acknowledge the truth of the matter and help solve the problems or shut up and get out of the way while people with integrity do the work they promised to do to correct the problems created by decades of leftist policy.
And, if you really want the best and brightest to work in education, get education out of the hands of unions and government. Privatize it. Let the free market refine and improve the education process and produce exceptional students rather than students who can’t read.
Report Post »Beware of Romans
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 2:46pmThank You Governor & Wisconsin!
Report Post »omgfolks
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 3:16pmIf some cannot bargain then NONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO. BE Fair. Strip one group then strip them all, Now your really saving money…. Who is going to sue the state now and win since only select groups are without bargaining ???? Funny how some keep their right and some lose thier right. Does seem fair does it
Report Post »calamari12
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 3:27pmyay for gov. walker. he gives hope and courage to the rest of us in the other states in the union.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 3:30pmI have a question for all you liberals out there. When are the 14 childish runaway Democraps going to come back to Wisconsin? I hope when they show up they are arrested and charged with “in contempt and disorderly behavior” according to the resolution that was passed. They will also have to pay the $100 a day fines that were accessed. Ah what a wonderful day this is.
Report Post »ablisterin
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 3:53pmWealth, like happiness, is never attained when sought after directly. It comes as a by-product of providing a useful service.
Report Post »- Henry Ford
bread and circuses
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 4:06pmBefore this bill…………
One group of government workers (unions) negotiating with another group of government workers (politicians) with somebody else’s money (tax payers)
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE ????
Report Post »RIGHTNOTLEFT
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 4:28pmHE DIDN’T CAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This gives us real HOPE!!!!!!
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 4:52pmEcinom, I would suggest if you are going to put faith in that injunction be prepared to be disappointed. Just in skimming the first 5 pages I have seen at least two claims made by the plaintiffs (Dane co.) that are citing wrong codes and misrepresenting the circumstances behind sessions, I.E. They were in special session which has different requirements then when in regular session. Notification of proceedings for one. In special session there is no time requirement on notification of a vote as your injunction here fails to recognize. If they plan on winning this then they better plan on getting better representation.
Report Post »BMartin1776
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 6:05pmThank you Gov Walker and republicans who took a stand regardless of the attacks coming from the radicals. I’m sure this fight isnt over as Trumka and the radical left have vowed to fight it but thanks for doing what is necessary. Be warned the intimidation will continue, and as similar measure approach in other states the stakes will rise by the radicals. Through this fiasco they have learned what works and what doesn’t.
Now that this is over and the 14 cowards are returning its time to do punish them for agitating the situation and running away. During Obamacare debate the people and elected representatives stayed and fought against the socialist machine in DC. No one in the republican ranks ran away from DC when time came to vote. These 14 should be heavily fined, an investigation should be launched into how the expenses were covered while in hiding, if possible they should face expulsion. New legislation needs to be passed to prevent runaways from occurring again during a critical vote. Legislators who run and hide instead of staying and fighting IMO are forfeiting their vote, that said the vote should continue they should be recorded as not voting if the deliberately leave the state or go into hiding.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 6:24pmNow what was the polling data on this one? Where do “we the people” stand (as so many of you are so fond of saying)?
Report Post »koyettsu
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 7:38pmNo problem, we put in the right people and have stood by them since.
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 8:00pmNo worries, both he and it will be gone in 2012.
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 8:15pmThank you Gov. Walker and all the legislators who voted for this. Finally, some politicians with the spine to do what is right. This bill is not about collective bargaining RIGHTS, but all about collective bargaining PRIVILEGES.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 8:47pmBwahahahahahaa Dawg, You think Walkers going to be gone??? BWahahahahahahaha your simple mind doesn’t even grasp that the majority of opposition in Wisconsin WAS rent a mobs from out of state. You think that they mean anything in this debate other then background noise???? Bwahahahahahaha. Dude you’re delusional. Get a grip on reality.
Report Post »Cosmo6
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 9:42pmIt is more important now than ever to be self supporting whether you are a union member or not. Nothing is for certain in this world except for what you personally do for yourself. Four months ago I would have only been able to feed my family for 5 days with the food we had at the time. Today I have 2 years worth, so no matter what happens we will still be able to eat. We get our food stores from http://www.reserve.myefoods.com They will let you try the food for FREE, just pay shipping! I highly recommend checking this out for your family and neighbors.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 10:35pmEcinom, just to drive the point home a little more on the either complete negligence of dutiful representation or the sheer incompetence on the part of the author of this injunction let me point you to the core of the injunction’s argument.
on page 5 of your cited injunction
15. The Wisconsin Constitution requires the presence of 3/5 of members of either the Assembly or Senate as quorum in order to pass any bill which would have a fiscal impact on the State of Wisconsin. Wisconsin Constitution Article VIII Sec. 8
Now the injunction is implying that any bill that has any fiscal impact is then considered a need for quorum.
Now when you look at the ACTUAL wording of my states Constitution it says
Vote on fiscal bills; quorum. SECTION 8. On the passage
in either house of the legislature of any law which imposes, continues or renews a tax, or creates a debt or charge, or makes, continues or renews an appropriation of public or trust money, or
releases, discharges or commutes a claim or demand of the state,
the question shall be taken by yeas and nays, which shall be duly
entered on the journal; and three−fifths of all the members
elected to such house shall in all such cases be required to constitute a quorum therein
The truth is, that not all matters that can or do have a fiscal impact are necessarily dependent on a quorum to vote. Since the basis of the bill signed into law today does NOT break the lines clearly stated by the state Constitution of what constitutes a need for a quorum vote the Senate and Assembly were well within their constitutional ability to vote on the bill with a simple majority which was attainable without the absentee Democrats.
Now should you choose to try to make the argument as they also tried in the injunction to make that sufficient time was not garnered before a vote was enacted. That is easily debunked by Senate Rule 93
SENATE RULE 93. Special, extended or extraordinary sessions. Unless otherwise
provided by the senate for a specific special, extended or extraordinary session, the
rules of the senate adopted for the regular session shall, with the following modifications, apply to each special session called by the governor and to each extended or extraordinary session called by the senate and assembly organization committees or
called by a joint resolution approved by both houses:
(1) No senate bill, senate joint resolution or senate resolution shall be considered unless
it is germane to the subjects enumerated by the governor in the special session proclamation and is recommended for introduction by the committee on senate organization
or the joint committee on employment relations.
(2) No notice of hearing before a committee shall be required other than posting on the
legislative bulletin board, and no bulletin of committee hearings shall be published.
Special notice should be taken by the author of this injunction to section (2). As can be seen at this point that the injunction has failed before even leaving the stable. The Democrats have made wild accusations of wrong doings when in fact the laws and rules have been followed, and the Democrats abdicated their duties when they decided to shut down democracy when they fled the state.
As a little topping to the pie so to speak that can be found in Wisconsin statute 946.12
946.12 Misconduct in public office. Any public officer or public employee who does any of the following is guilty of a Class I felony:
946.12(1)
Report Post »(1) Intentionally fails or refuses to perform a known mandatory, nondiscretionary, ministerial duty of the officer‘s or employee’s office or employment within the time or in the manner required by law;
Mil Mom
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 10:55pm(( Do you suppose we could raise the money so Waker & Wis. GOP could tutor Boehner & Cantor on how to do the job you’re elected to do? ))
Report Post »God Bless & Protect!
Mil Mom
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:11pm@Non-sequitur
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:22am
“The true SHAME is that 2/3 of Wisconsin 8TH GRADERS CANT READ OR WRITE PROFICIENTLY, and ONLY 45% OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS GRADUATE ( 35%) AMONG AFR AMERICANS in Wisconsin. Pathetic!”
And the solution to that is making the teaching profession even less desirable.
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Report Post »No, the solution is to do away with teacher tenure, and pay each schools teachers according to how well they teach the children, not in social activism, or whatever political theory is being put out as scientific fact, but in the ability of the students to enter college without makeup courses the first years of study, and the ability to do well in the workplace as well as make intelligent decisions, think problems through to their own conclusions, balance budgets and solve living problems with limited assistance, deal with everyday problems in a peaceful way. (( This was the accomplishments the vast majority of American students graduated with in the 1950‘s 7 1960’s [pre-unionization], at least in Ohio!!!!!!!!!!1 ))
Obviously the behavior at the Capitol buildings across the country where these bills are being debated totally teaches kids the opposite of the last. {{ Earlier in America’s history the shenanigans of Madison and Columbus, at the state capitol buildings, would have automatically made any teachers involved in them incapable of getting a teaching job, because the parents would not have stood for this behavior from those who are set up as examples for their children!! }
Mil Mom
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:30pm@Mettag
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 12:19pm
Good this passed. Bad way to get it passed though. Conservatives need to be above the underhanded tricks the progressives use to get items passed. They should have stuck to there guns and not done anything until the dems came back. nationally they were winning the pr battle.
*************************When you’re fighting the mob-like union thuggery and WH backed campaign group, do you really think sticking to their guns and waiting them out could accomplish anything. The GOP was elected to balance the budget, keeping the capitol open longer to be further destroyed by the unethical masses who were occupying it, would never have accomplished this. This wasn’t underhanded, it was perfectly legal, and moral, since they only separated off the “Non Budget” portion from the Budget Bill. Don’t believe the lies, This put them way out ahead with taxpayers,WHO ARE VOTERS!!! The left won’t publish it, but it is reality all the same!!!
Report Post »sleazyhippo
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:30pmWhich one of you heroes is deleting my Posts?
Report Post »sleazyhippo
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:40pmH ey!
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O r – We Heroes can just, Delete Other Opinions
Land of the free
Posted on March 11, 2011 at 11:58pmThank you all…now that’s taking care of business the American way. Let freedom ring.
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on March 12, 2011 at 12:16amBravo, to Gov. Walker.
Report Post »Jackers
Posted on March 12, 2011 at 5:05amThank you, Governor Walker, for standing strong and doing what’s best for all the workers of Wisconsin!
This is a major victory for the taxpayers of Wisconsin. No more “win-win” for union bosses and Democrats only at the expense of the rest of us…
Report Post »orchidman
Posted on March 12, 2011 at 9:10amHere is the opening ‘salvo’ in the 2012 election. I am heartened to see Gov. Walker follow the lead of Govs. Christie and McDonnald and do what all of us have had to do in our own lives. They are doing their best to save their state worker‘s jobs by spending only what they take in but the unions can’t go along or they will lose control of their dues monies. We will all have to financially support the right candidates in 2012 and continue to take our country back. We The People…..!!!!
Report Post »Quest4Truth
Posted on March 12, 2011 at 9:33amThank you Governor Scott Walker!!! YOU are an American hero who can wear the title:
THE PEOPLE’S MAN!
No class warfare, no gimmiks, no self-serving motives. Just Courageous, Honorable Leadership!
Question: Why can’t public employees simply receive an annual Cost of Livng raise just like Social Security recipients get? (Which we haven’t gotten for TWO years, because they tell us there has been NO inflation, (Huh?). Wouldn’t that end the need for collective bargaining? Wouldn’t that be fair to ALL public employees and ALL taxpayers?
Report Post »orchidman
Posted on March 12, 2011 at 10:11amThis is certainly the opening ‘salvo’ in the election of 2012. It is so refreshing to see Governor Walker doing for his State exactly what all of us have had to do for ourselves – spend only what we make. The union’s response was predictable because now they lose a lot of their dues monies so their power will decrease. Wasn’t it interesting to see how the “civil debate” and “representative government” played out in Wisconsin.
Report Post »sleazyhippo
Posted on March 12, 2011 at 11:33am“Mission Accomplished” – a memorable phrase! That still has such a great ring to it, after all these years1
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on March 12, 2011 at 12:59pmI have to say.. I DO NOT like it when EITHER side acts ARROGANTLY.. it dishonors what they are doing.. and that is JUST what WALKER and the REPUBLICANS are doing.. EVERYONE is aware of what happen.. another old saying..(I am full of them they came from my gram).. PRIDE goet before the FALL and what Walker did is VERY prideful. . Humbly accept your win and move on to the next victory..
Report Post »suttonea76
Posted on March 12, 2011 at 7:30pmThe first of many I hope. Walker started the “tsunami” of what will come in other states. Pardon the timing on that one.
Report Post »Kookaburra
Posted on March 13, 2011 at 5:48pmAll the temper tantrums couldn’t stop him! Halleluia! Now, make all the teachers and unions pay for the $7.5 million in damages to the capital building. I want to see that. I want to see all their butts in jail, and liens slapped on all of their homes for damages to public taxpayer property! Guarantee then it will never happen again.
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