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GEW
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:38pm@N37BUG, are you a Brit or and Aussie? Certainly you are smart so you must be one of the two….
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 3:40pmIt’s just an act. Here, let me get out of character:
“Ahh laak Glenn Beyuck. He lerns me stuff good.”
I know you’re referring to Wallis but funnily enough, yeah… I am unfortunately a Brit. A self-hating Brit in Canada, which is now the sanest place on earth. That’s a sad state of affairs, isn’t it?
*grabs a hold of your collar like a maniac*
PLEASE, PLEASE HELP US WHEN THEY COME OVER THE POLE! OH, GOD HELP US PLEASE! THEY ARE GOING TO KILL US ALL! OH GOD, PLEASE HELP US, THEY ARE COMING!
Report Post »Paul_Kersey
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:38pmGlobal Warming is a ruse and the people like Al Gore and Michael Moore need to go to jail for perpetrating this scam for the purpose of making money. I don’t feel sorry for the unwitting idiots that believe this tripe because we each have to be personally responsible for ourselves. If you buy the Brooklyn Bridge so be it but the Department of Justice and the Attorney General should be arresting the people who sell it to you.
Report Post »oldeagle101
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:36pmAl Gore where are you??? Would you like to comment on this….please respond, thank you..
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 3:57pmhe is with another massage therpist
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 4:21pmYeah… trying to get his globes warmed.
Report Post »colt1911
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 7:59pmI think algore is better _red_than_dead
Report Post »AynRandLives
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:34pmI understand that Al Gore received coal in his stocking.
Report Post »Joseff
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:32pmI read Al Gore’s book way back when it first came out, I think that was 1988, or somewhere around there. I have been calling Global Warming a hoax longer than most people have been aware of it. I knew at some point, actual facts would be self evident. Show me your Global Warming now, AlGore.
Joe
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 4:15pmIs that the same book where Al stated that he wanted to do away with the internal combustion engine? Where he said that a lawnmower put out more pollution than a bus?
Report Post »So, now will they repeal the law that will ban incandescent light bulbs after this year?
MCGIRV
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:30pmWho is his coiffeur?
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:25pm@MIKEE T
1) Learn how to extract sarcasm from text.
2) There IS such a thing as global warming… same with global cooling. How else do glaciers advance and recede, genius?
The issue isn’t whether the climate changes or trends up and down. It’s whether humans are having a major impact. The issue isn’t with “global warming”, but with “ANTHROPOMORPHIC global warming”. There is a massive distinction.
No offense, but you don‘t entirely know what you’re talking about. You’re also socially retarded.
komponist-ZAH
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 12:02amI believe you mean ANTHROPO*GENIC*?
Report Post »Anthropomorphic global warming would be global warming that looked like a man…
But, right on!
theVirginian
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 12:39amAnthropomorphic global warming would be Al Gore I think, lolol
Report Post »LimoDavid
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:23pmThis guy was on the documentary The Great Global Warming Swindle. Just Google the movie and watch it. Only 76 minutes long but invaluably informing. And DO NOT take my word for it: global warming is a ploy to redistribute wealth AND (wait for it) keep third world countries from enjoying the benefits of wealth and electricity (note the part of the documentary that discusses abundant natural gas/oil in impoverished areas of Africa where the inhabitants are forced to use cow dung to cook dinner). Also, DO NOT take the word of the Phd’s and climate experts in the documentary (although ONE of them knows MORE about the global warming issue than a football stadium FULL of global warming alarmists/Gores/activists). Look it up yourself. These global warming, I mean, climate change alarmists are full of hooey. Next they will try and outlaw chlorine! And it is part of the periodic table! Oops! That’s covered in the documentary also.
Report Post »Mixwell63
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:23pmThe debate is over, AL GORBLES IS A LIAR.
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:21pmAnd if “the debate is over” — when did it ever really start ? The first I heard of the ‘debate’, was the part about it already being over.. I guess nobody else gets to enter any evidence.
Report Post »Better_Red_than_Dead
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:12pm@GHANDI WAS A REPUBLICAN
“That humans are causing global warming is the position of the Academies of Science from 19 countries plus many scientific organizations that study climate science. More specifically, around 95% of active climate researchers actively publishing climate papers endorse the consensus position.
Direct observations find that CO2 is rising sharply due to human activity. Satellite and surface measurements find less energy is escaping to space at CO2 absorption wavelengths. Ocean and surface temperature measurements find the planet continues to accumulate heat. This gives a line of empirical evidence that human CO2 emissions are causing global warming.”
komponist-ZAH
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:07pmSource, Red?
I have some empirical evidence that you’re wrong. It’s still about an inch deep in some parts of my yard in upstate South Carolina three days later…
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:41pmAnd to the inevitable repost of the local weather has nothing to do with global temperatures comment, you do realize that relies on average temperture (there is no single global temperature), which can be wildly thrown off by a handful of abnormal temperatures?
Report Post »teachermitch32
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 12:38pmTo better red,
You stated: “around 95% of active climate researchers actively publishing climate papers endorse the consensus position”, and this is because those who would publish otherwise, and are in oposition to man made GW, are not allowed to publish or were afraid of being ostrasized by their peers and fear of loosing their income. So, your adherance and bloviation to any of these publications is found to be mute and a false conclusion. There was never a real debate ALLOWED in any of these publications. The truth, then, will never be discussed in open and you are their sheepel.
Report Post »DrFrost
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 3:11pm“Direct observations find that CO2 is rising sharply due to human activity. Satellite and surface measurements find less energy is escaping to space at CO2 absorption wavelengths. Ocean and surface temperature measurements find the planet continues to accumulate heat. This gives a line of empirical evidence that human CO2 emissions are causing global warming.” – Quoted by RED but no reference provided
The CO2 absorption spectrum is covered by H2O for the most part, which is a far superior “green house gas”. Therefore, if the world were to warm up FOR ANY REASON, there’d be more water in the air. Therefore, with more water in the air, less energy would be escaping to space in the H2O absorption spectrum (which essentially covers the CO2 absoption spectrum). Therefore, if the earth were to warm up FOR ANY REASON we’d see less energy escaping at the CO2 absoption spectrum. This makes it difficult to draw any conclusions on the source of any real or perceived warming trend based solely on the amount of energy escaping the atmosphere over a given range of photon energies which represents the CO2 absorption spectra.
Scientists don’t tend to use words like “consensus” and “endorsement.” Prevailing theories die all the time when confronted with new evidence. Belief, however widespread, plays no role in whether something is true or false. To put it more simply, scientists generally don’t care about consensus.
As a scientist, when I read statements with obvious fallacies supporting AGW (like the one quoted above) and hear the rhetoric involved (which is something more similar to political speech then scientific evidence) it makes me very skeptical.
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:16pm*
Report Post »Anyone else convinced the lefty progressives would destroy the Planet if they felt it would further their agenda?
Wildstar35
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:06pm***Raises hand*** I believe It
Report Post »expatinontariocanada
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:14pmSing it with me (to Draggin’ the Line)….“Hide the decline ”
Report Post »Better_Red_than_Dead
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:14pm@EXPATINONTARIOCANADA
“While some of the private correspondance is not commendable, an informed examination of their “suggestive” emails reveal technical discussions using techniques well known in the peer reviewed literature. Focusing on a few suggestive emails merely serves to distract from the wealth of empirical evidence for man-made global warming.
Though some of the CRU emails can sound damning when quoted out of context, several inquiries have cleared the scientists. The Independent Climate Change Email Review put the emails into context by investigating the main allegations. It found the scientists’ rigour and honesty are not in doubt, and their behaviour did not prejudice the IPCC’s conclusions, though they did fail to display the proper degree of openness. The CRU emails do not negate the mountain of evidence for AGW.”
Report Post »roostercogburn
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 6:23pmFunny how they had to cook the books to get the data to show what they wanted it to, it’s all about the money, look you have a few special folks that stand to make billions if they can pull this scam off.
Report Post »Remember a good 30 years ago the same loons were telling us we were all going to die from global cooling, that didn’t work, so they change it to global warming, but even their number showed a decline in global temps in the late 1990′s and they had to change the name to climate change. They really don’t even have any facts that pass the smell test.
Plankchapel
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:13pmOh, it’s true! It’s true! There is “global warming!” PROOF:” The sun came out and melted the snow!
But wait! Where did all the SNOW come from that paralyzed airports, stopped busses and trains, caused the ice that brought so many wrecks?
Hmmmmm!
Report Post »WhiteFang
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 3:26pmI love snow!
Report Post »Better_Red_than_Dead
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:10pm@PLANKCHAPEL
“A local cold day has nothing to do with the long-term trend of increasing global temperatures.
Since the mid 1970s, global temperatures have been warming at around 0.2 degrees Celsius per decade. However, weather imposes its own dramatic ups and downs over the long term trend. We expect to see record cold temperatures even during global warming. Nevertheless over the last decade, daily record high temperatures occurred twice as often as record lows. This tendency towards hotter days is expected to increase as global warming continues into the 21st Century.”
Report Post »Volsense
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:11pmAl Gore has made 100s of millions on pushing global warming. The people of Tennessee have never questioned his intentions, which are obviously clear, but they have questioned his sanity.
Report Post »Deanna in Missouri
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:10pmWonder if they will make this guy “disappear”?
Report Post »KenInIL
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:06pmThe Hoaxers need to go to JAIL !!! — Starting with big AL Gore and bigger Michael Moore !
Report Post »Wildstar35
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:04pmMy theory, and I’m trying to see to South Park as follow on to their Global Warming episode, that al “the bore” gore has a secret safe room at his huge mansion so when he’s outed as the phoney he is, he‘s gonna go down there and flip a switch and turn all those windmills he has planted as eye sores everywhere and either claim he’s trying reverse the earth’s rotation (w/ his fake science, I believe he’ll believe he can) by turning them in a certain direction or he‘ll point them at the North Pole and say he’s gonna melt the polar ice cap. Silly, I know, but makes for a funny South Park episode.
Report Post »mrmikejohnson
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:04pmAny scientist that goes against what Al Gore believes is just spewing hate speech and is violating the human rights of millions of people. Who cares if the globe isn’t getting warmer. We need global marxism and redistribution of wealth. What else can we pretend to believe in if not global warming? Global warming is our best chance for political goals and tens of trillions of dollars every year. We‘ll just use tricks to make it look like the globe is warming if it’s not actually warming. Science is just a political tool anyways. Plus, Karl Rove and Dick Cheney are racists. Did I leave out any other crazy liberal talk?
Report Post »the_ancient
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:11pmWell in their “defense” these are the same people that think Iran is ok with Human Rights but the United States needs to work on our “human rights violations”.
That is why we will never “win” a debate with them, you can not win an argument with insane ignorant fools. The best course of action is to ignore them and not allow them to have any power over our lives
Report Post »bbquizzle
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:12pmYou failed to blame Bush for something.
Report Post »bare faced truth teller
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 4:31pmYou forgot “It is all George Bush’s Fault!”
Report Post »mtnclimberjim
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:03pmGotta love that guy. I’ll be checking out his web site. Speak the truth with facts.
Report Post »GetUpOnTheWheel
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:03pmI love this guy.
Report Post »Psytoxic
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:17pmMe too. Just remember though that we only think he’s smart because of his accent.
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:17pmMe too… but, from Wikipedia:
“Corbyn was a member of the Labour Party and a campaigns organiser, but has since left it. His brother, Jeremy Corbyn, has been Labour MP for Islington North since 1983.”
“Corbyn was a housing and squatters’ rights activist in the North Paddington area of Westminster in the mid-1970s. In 1974 he fought for a seat on the council as a “Squatters and Tenants” candidate; in 1978 he and a colleague fought as ‘Decent Housing’ candidates. In the 1977 GLC election he was the International Marxist Group candidate for Lambeth Central. He and all the squatters in Elgin Avenue were – as a result of their campaign which included the building of barricades against eviction – rehoused to Southwark, South London, by the GLC in 1975. He later moved from that rehousing in Rust Square to the Alvey Estate in Southwark where he became a leader of the Tenants Association.”
Let‘s just hope it was a 70’s thing.
Report Post »GEW
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:29pmLOL…me too does this make us as Wallis, OB’s spiritual adviser says “one of those confused Americans that think a person with a British accent is smarter than anyone???” Lol…I couldn’t help think it as I read about him earlier and then listened to this video. Well, count me in then.
Report Post »MiketheTrucker
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:23pmA special Not for “better red than dead”
You really need to go back to third grade. Co2 is a major part of our ecological system. Without it ALL plant life would die(save for the Venus Fly Trap). Without plants, MAN would die. You see, there’s this little process that God created called Photosynthesis, it’s a process through which mankind and ALL plant life sustain each other.
In FACT, since you love to quote “scientific facts”, the atmospheric Co2 levels today are approximately 400 parts per million. Twenty five thousand years ago the Co2 level was 6,000 parts per million. This leaves just one question for you fruitcakes; if Co2 is causing “global warming/climate change/global climate disruption(any names I forgot?), then why didn’t the planet burn up before idiots like Gore were ever born?
YOUR scientists are being paid to LIE!
Report Post »missy8s
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:02pmIt was warmer on Earth 25,000 years ago, the AGW argument is BS unless of course the Flintstones were actually behind it and they just farted too much…
Report Post »Better_Red_than_Dead
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:08pm@MISSY8S
“Climate reacts to whatever forces it to change at the time; humans are now the dominant forcing.
Natural climate change in the past proves that climate is sensitive to an energy imbalance. If the planet accumulates heat, global temperatures will go up. Currently, CO2 is imposing an energy imbalance due to the enhanced greenhouse effect. Past climate change actually provides evidence for our climate’s sensitivity to CO2.”
aeronut44
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 7:45pmBETTER_RED_THAN_DEAD
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:11pm
@@POLI_MIS
“In the last 35 years of global warming, the sun has shown a slight cooling trend. Sun and climate have been going in opposite directions. In the past century, the Sun can explain some of the increase in global temperatures, but a relatively small amount.”
Better red, are there humans on the sun causing it’s cooling trend too, or does that happen naturally??? do you people even listen to yourselves?
Report Post »Wildstar35
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:57pmNo according better dead it’s the SUVs that the dinosaurs drove back then, LMAO!!! Better dead just go away, you sound like a brain dead moron and broken record. Wait…. YOU’RE STILL BREATHING OUT CO2 AND POLLUTING CAUSING GLOBAL WHINING oops I mean WARMING
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 10:07pmBetterred — Reposting zzzzzzzz still no references. Not that it would make you any more correct.
Silversmith
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 12:25am@Better_Red_than_Dead
There has been roughly a 15 year lag if you look at the charts.
Entire oceans take a long time to warm and cool, you know. It doesn’t happen overnight.
Report Post »@Poli_Mis
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:01pmThis has always been about solar activity – sun spots, solar flares, etc.
Not cow farts, light bulbs or any other asinine mythology the Marxists can cook up.
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 3:59pmWell, 18% of Americans did think the sun revolved around the earth, and another 3% had no opinion.
(LOL… who has “no opinion”? It’s not even an opinion anyway.)
Don’t expect too much from your fellow citizens. Just pick up the slack for them while they are busy playing Xbox Live with their gangsta nametags.
Report Post »Better_Red_than_Dead
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:11pm@@POLI_MIS
“In the last 35 years of global warming, the sun has shown a slight cooling trend. Sun and climate have been going in opposite directions. In the past century, the Sun can explain some of the increase in global temperatures, but a relatively small amount.”
Malachai
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 7:06pmYou immediately discredited yourself the minute you claimed that all the climatologists who subscribe to the idea that there is some significant human caused global warming are all Marxist. I know you don’t bother to think that far, but just think about how difficult it would be to get that many people behind the same conspiracy and same mentality (Marxism) to back the same idea. It’s idiocy at best.
Report Post »MrObvious
Posted on December 29, 2010 at 9:22amIt’s not exactly hard to figure out AGW is bunk. The quantities of CO2 we have are too small to accomplish any measurable amount of heat retention and no heat generation. O2 traps more heat than CO2. The AGW folks always respond that CO2 is a green house gas and O2 is not. Those are labels; and, they don’t fit.
Then you top that off with Global warming on Mars, and other planets; and, it’s pretty hard to argue that the solar powered rovers did it.
AGW insisters that claim the Sun as being hotter or colder than weather on earth would suggest, ignore general solar activity data. The have to in order to make the claim.
Overall solar activity is what needs to be looked at – not just minor IR fluctuations. In fact, the best predictor is probably the UV fluctuations. The increase dramatically just before CMEs; and, elevated UV reacts in our Ozone Layer translating UV into IR through well understood chemical processes.
Not saying that UV accounts for all of it, just that the Sun is the primary driver of our temps and that UV is a much larger component than most seem to think it to be.
Other factors like cosmic particle/ray deflection by the Sun, electromagnetic effects in the Ionosphere, and direct IR effects all play a part in the total. Water vapor varies from location to location; but, generally increases when solar activity does. CO2 increases after ice, containing trapped quantities of it, melts. While the CO2 has no measurable impact on the temps, water vapor does have some positive forcing effect – IE water vapor, triggered by Solar activity, helps retain more heat. Also, more of the earth is effected than the portion facing the Sun. It’s basic geometry.
The Atmosphere that surrounds the earth is exposed to more of the sun than just the area of the earth facing it. Draw two circles, one inside the other. The one in the middle is earth. The one on the outside is the Atmosphere. Draw a third circle on a far corner of the page. Draw lines from that circle that intersect the other two. Then draw more lines that only intersect the outer circle.
Assorted layers of the atmosphere trap rays that pass through it and direct some of that energy down to earth.
In this way far more of the earth gets solar output than just the portion facing it; and, earth‘s temperature is effected the the temperature of it’s atmosphere; so, shifts in solar activity are amplified by the normal structure and makeup of the atmosphere, without any man made help whatsoever.
It takes a pretty narrow, egotistical and or/duplicitous, point of view to think that man made CO2 levels can in any measurable way effect the temperature of the planet.
The evidence that CO2 has little or no effect is overwhelming.
The evidence that the Sun itself is the primary driver is clear and convincing.
Report Post »stargazer qmc
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:00pmAt last, somebody with a clue.
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:17pmI think he’s kinda cute too. He came right out and told the truth. It’s all about the money!
Report Post »Mikee T
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:00pmPerhaps the fraud can be exposed now……..LIBERAL MEDIA, WHERE ARE YOU ? The *******/progressive media would be all over exceptionally warm conditions, and yet, true to their partisan radican agendas, they are strangely silent………. We have had extreme cold, windy, blustery weather for 5 straight weeks in NJ…….We have a couple feet of snow in the east coast areas from S.C. up thru New England…….This astrophysicist can “counter” anything these “green planet” criminals can argue……..and when do we get these scum bags to start telling the truth ? I really don’t get it…..the media has that much to gain by helping to perpetrate this “Global Lie” ? It is baffling to me……..I for one think that our Lord and Savior is “slapping” these miscreants right in the kisser with the truth……..there is NO GLOBAL WARMING….period….and if there was, it would be cyclical and would change back and forth based on normal affects from the sun and solar system….It’s high time we expose these criminals…….starting with ALGORE…
Report Post »Better_Red_than_Dead
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:46pm@MIKEE T
“A local cold day has nothing to do with the long-term trend of increasing global temperatures.
Since the mid 1970s, global temperatures have been warming at around 0.2 degrees Celsius per decade. However, weather imposes its own dramatic ups and downs over the long term trend. We expect to see record cold temperatures even during global warming. Nevertheless over the last decade, daily record high temperatures occurred twice as often as record lows. This tendency towards hotter days is expected to increase as global warming continues into the 21st Century.
To claim that record snowfall is inconsistent with a warming world betrays a lack of understanding of the link between global warming and extreme precipitation. Warming causes more moisture in the air which leads to more extreme precipitation events. This includes more heavy snowstorms in regions where snowfall conditions are favourable. Far from contradicting global warming, record snowfall is predicted by climate models and consistent with our expectation of more extreme precipitation events.”
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:57pmWhat flavor WAS that cool-aid,Red?
Report Post »jackrorabbit
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 12:05pm@Red and in the 1940‘s through the 1970’s temperature dropped by over that amount, which lead the scientist of that day to claim that the next ice age was coming. Wake up and smell the conspiracy.
Report Post »jagr1850
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 1:59pmmother nature is in charge and anyone who claims otherwise is a moron !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Cliff
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:56pmwell I may be off as I am not a biblical scholar or even close… LOL… but if Satan is in control of the earth… and the governments… and if true, why would he not want to debunk God and his creation? By claiming that (we) the people are the ones responsible for changing the climate, and only (we) the government can fix the weather problem… it is an attack on the creator of this world… Guys this is NOTHING but a plot for them to control us and take our money and give it to their colleagues AKA cronies!
I say BS… Piers is right on target!!!
I can tell you that if you look throughout history you can see that the weather has always been the same for millions of years and only started changing since the idiots settled in America and capitalism took over on its intended purpose (to take over the world and actually destroy it so that 3 people that run the whole thing get rich and make all of us poor!!!) <– people actually believe this and tell me I am crazy for believing in God!!! WOW!
http://www.mentordvd.com <– scroll all the way to the bottom of this page and click on the word Blaze to get your discount for being a Blaze reader!
WhiteFang
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 3:21pmNot exactly a snappy dresser is he.
Report Post »Does he have a comb?
What is the deal with these scientist fellows, do they all take a special course in collage on how to dress like a mad scientist?
He is smart though.
paperpushermj
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 4:36pmWhitefang: It’s called JOB SECURITY
Report Post »mtnclimberjim
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 4:52pmThe switch has been made. It’s now man made global cooling
Report Post »Better_Red_than_Dead
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:03pm@JAGR1850
“Humans are small but powerful, and human CO2 emissions are causing global warming.
Atmospheric CO2 levels are rising by 15 gigatonnes per year. Humans are emitting 26 gigatonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere. Humans are dramatically altering the composition of our climate.”
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:29pmHey Red – no just stupid like you!
Report Post »It’s the SUN – always has and always will be!
Better_Red_than_Dead
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:32pm@JAKARTAMAN
“In the last 35 years of global warming, the sun has shown a slight cooling trend. Sun and climate have been going in opposite directions. In the past century, the Sun can explain some of the increase in global temperatures, but a relatively small amount.”
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 6:19pm@Better_Dead…
The one at Jagr was from http://www.skepticalscience.com/Are-humans-too-insignificant-to-affect-global-climate.htm plagarist.
Report Post »Better_Red_than_Dead
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 6:28pm@@LEFTFIGHTER
Do you not understand the concept of “quotes”?
Report Post »poppop13
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 6:44pmRight you are old chap. I love global warming. Those 4 airports closed this morning around NYC would be 40 and not for a few days. How about 3 or 4 months and not 2 feet of snow instead of 5 foot. An old man like me can’t handle the 19 degrees we had in Oklahoma this morning, old arthur was really squaking. It takes July and Aug. at 100+ to thaw my bones out and get me ready for winter. Everyone needs to quit griping about the wearher and just enjoy it. This just another test the lord is giving and you can’t do anything about it. Yhe farmers almac says you haven’t seen anything yet – remember last January.
Report Post »Have a happy new year;;
Wildstar35
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:52pm@Better red
Ummm, I think you failed basic Biology, unless they changed since I was in High School, which I am pretty sure they have, but last time I checked plants need CO2 to grow and when they grow they produce O2, which we need to breath. So, if by what you’re saying, if Co2 is SUCH a horrible thing and a big factor, by YOUR version of things, the planet should be over run w/ plants and trees and flowers. Also on that same vein, humans give off CO2, with that said, every time we, also meaning YOU better red, you’re polluting and causing “global whining” oops I mean warming. So, interest of the planet please stop breathing… STOP!!! YOU’RE BREATHING!!! DON’T EXHALE BETTER, YOU’RE POLLUTING THE PLANET, WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:31pmAnd do you, Red, not understand the concept of citation–you know, provding a link so others can check the veracity of the source?
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 1:54pmSeriously, when are we going to get past this AGW farce and finally recognize the global climate is cyclical?
N37BU6
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 1:57pmPfft… next you’re going to say glaciers advance half way to the equator back all by themselves!
Flat earther.
cubber
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:02pmAs a weather merit badge counselor, I must admit that climate does change. There, I said it and I am proud of it. BE PREPARED.
Report Post »missy8s
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:05pmAGW is the biggest lie in the history of mankind.
These lefty loons were preaching about this over 100 years ago and it was the exact same damn lie as they are insisting we believe today.
The “hockey stick” is pure horse hockey!
Report Post »Psytoxic
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:08pmWhere is ABC for this one?
Report Post »taskmaster78
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:09pmKeep in mind if we don‘t believe in global warming there isn’t any money in none global warming, we must sell carbon credits.
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:11pmThis gent has a very intriguing approach and may end up having the last laugh.
To all those in the Northeast suffering from the effects of global warming, a survival tip
from Frank Zappa:
“Watch out where the huskies go and don’t you eat that yellow snow”.
Report Post »GEW
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:21pmActually the old man is right. Why is it that people refuse to admit this. oh, maybe the reason they cling to global warm theory made by mankind, mostly the western civilzation is because he is also right about “follow the money”.
Report Post »You cant do one damn thing about the weather, whether we get hotter or colder, man can do nothing to stop it or enhance it, except man can do 2 things, clean up their nasty messes, and get prepared for whatever “Mother Nature” has to throw at us.
Study the effects our sun has on our climate, and then let it go.
Dustyluv
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:26pmHe is right! The ICE AGE is coming…
He seems to be growing enough hair to keep him warm too…
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {cat folk art}
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:37pmClimate change occurs on a larger time scale than humans usually are willing to understand; the changes and cycles occur on a decade or even generational scale of time. We are use to dealing with events now on a daily, hourly, or at most a weekly time scale and refuse for the most part to think beyond those terms.
These morons of the UN and such have admitted they are crooks and liars as well, only interested in the redistribution of global wealth – under their supervision, and pocket books, of course.
Report Post »Hobo Boondocks
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:39pmMISSY8S
Report Post »Man made religion and evolution are among the biggest! You can get college degrees all over the world in both fields. No so yet in Global Warming, but give them a chance.
Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:40pmThis is “extremely snowy” London? An inch of snow?
Report Post »I am waiting for the day when Al Gore is brought up on charges of perpetrating a fraud. Think that’ll happen?
TXPilot
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:41pmMaybe when we are all freezing and buried in snow, everyone will realize the whole global warming/climate change thing is all a big lie meant to do nothing more than take away our rights, freedoms and money.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:42pmAaand, repeal all the laws based on the global warming nonsense.
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:52pmYoutube Dr Bob Carter. Especially if you believe in this AGW nonsense. Since he is the world’s preeminent expert on global & historical climate, he might edify you. – Note you might have to watch a few hours of his address to the global climate symposium. I’ll give you a hint though, he thinks it’s a fraud.
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 3:34pmIs man so arrogant as to think he is GOD and can change the climate of a whole planet. MightI recommend you read“ Unstoppable Global Warming” by Fred Singer and Dennis Avery. Many say they lie but they verify with foot notes and refrences every claim they make. IE… Greenland. ice is receeding and revealing villages from 900AD Viking farmers. So how did those farms get under that ice? Maybe the earth was warmer for 500 years during that period? Why did Native Americans tell explorers of a NorthWest Passage if it had not existed before. What better way to control and tax man than by creating a false science? Most climate models in use take into account less than 20% of the variables that affect climate. I just made myself a Climate Scientists and my proven theory is that concrete, buildings and pavement cause Global warming. Proof? Does the air not get hotter above plowed(dark) fields, above cities such as Atlanta, La, NYC etc…? If not then how am I able to rise on these thermal in my glider? The US now dumps 1/10 of the pollutants in the air that we did in 1950. The air is actually getting cleaner. So exactly how is man creating Global Warming? OOPS!Global Climate change. It may go up or down so you must name it to cover both contingencies. The whole thing is a bunch of hog wash. It is just a money making scheme.
Report Post »bassist237
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 3:42pmWhoa, this is heavy Doc.
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 3:47pmGlobal cooling and warming… it is interesting how is corresponds with sun spots and not cars.
Report Post »rfycom
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 3:57pmI had a drink to that just the other day. I think I will have another. Cheers
Report Post »Curator_JDR
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 4:07pmIts all part of‘ God’s plan to mock Progressives, the answer to prayers such as “let their evil be visible”
Kind of like when Obama had his fly problems (and a fly flew into Ahmenenidijad’s mouth when he was making a speech too)
God has a sense of humor. Humor is also our weapon. Its time to LAUGH this seditious clan into “submission”. Ridicule is their social atomic bomb. The Progressives will not be able to function.
Just released. An Animated Short Feature Film “A Not So Grimm Fairy Tale” ………… Political Satire without the restraint of correctness. In the fair land of Hairmerica all is not well. The problem with and resolution to Hairmerica‘s wellness is the arrest of a ruling class called Progessives Dada’s. From the creative genious, artist Marc Richard Rubin.
http://www.marcrubin.com/hairmerica.ivnu
Report Post »Better_Red_than_Dead
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 4:45pmSo, are 97% of climate scientists just liars, or what?
Aldo_the_Apche
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 4:55pmit is a cycle but the cycle is changing in the 21st century there has been more sun spots than ever recorded in the 20th century usually the temperature goes up and down in 11 year cycles of hot and cold climate now due to sun spots it is in a more radical 22 year cycle and guess what were at the end of the warm cycle…..get your jackets its about to get real cold for the next two decades
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:23pmI wanna know who does his hair.
Report Post »Better_Red_than_Dead
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:30pm@@LEFTFIGHTER
“Climate reacts to whatever forces it to change at the time; humans are now the dominant forcing.
Natural climate change in the past proves that climate is sensitive to an energy imbalance. If the planet accumulates heat, global temperatures will go up. Currently, CO2 is imposing an energy imbalance due to the enhanced greenhouse effect. Past climate change actually provides evidence for our climate’s sensitivity to CO2.”
@ALDO_THE_APACHE
“A full reading of Tung 2008 finds a distinct 11 year solar signal in the global temperature record. However, this 11 year cycle is superimposed over the long term global warming trend. In fact, the authors go on to estimate climate sensitivity from their findings, calculate a value between 2.3 to 4.1°C. This confirms the IPCC estimate of climate sensitivity.”
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:53pmbetter ded thn red….Just what flavor WAS that kool-aid, bro?
Report Post »Better_Red_than_Dead
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:58pmScience-flavored.
“Nothing burns hotter than the truth,” right?
Bluebonnet
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 6:11pmFollow the money. Global warming caused by the ones who made all the money off false reports and records including the biggest liar of all time: Mr. AlGore. He has made his fortune off the whole lie. Yeah, I believe the weather has cycles and we’ve been going into a cold cycle for a while (and they say when it gets cooler, that’s because of Global Warming.) Most of us admit we aren’t scientists, and I believe God controls the weather, whether cows burp or we toot, it makes no difference. Cold cycle, warm cycle, that’s life, be prepared with a good coat.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 6:15pm@Better_Dead_than_Red
Next time, don’t plagarize this page:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-change-little-ice-age-medieval-warm-period-intermediate.htm
If you’re dumb enough to believe that 1.5% of a gas that isn’t even the largest greenhouse gas contributor in the environment (water is), then go right ahead and believe it. Just don‘t plagarize other peoples’ work and expect me to believe you as if the Great Knowledge of the Universe flows forth from your fingertips.
Folks: Help me out… bing search this ‘tards’ quotes and out him as the kool-aid drinking plagarist he is.
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 6:17pmLOL red than dead, your are a moron, just like the twits you bow down to, the frauds that they are! CO2 follows the cooling and warming cycle, and that cycle is influenced by the Sun, so you still think you are right huh, then let them raise your taxes imbecile!
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 6:17pm@ Better_Dead…
Your quote at Aldo came from this page, plagarist…
http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-cycles-global-warming.htm
Report Post »Better_Red_than_Dead
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 6:27pm@@LEFTFIGHTER
Well, there’s a reason I put all the snippets in quotes. Because I was quoting. That‘s sort of what they’re used for.
And yes, I’ll continue to believe that CO2 is a major contributing factor to climate change, as 97% of climatologists believe it to be. When it comes to matters of science, I’ll look towards scientists.
nateums
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 6:32pmIt’s too bad this dude is a Marxist. I guess you can’t win them all, at least he realized global warming was a joke.
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 6:36pm@RED, then your logic will always be flawed.
Report Post »guyperram
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 7:32pmThe EPA will put this to rest shortly, by imposing all the carbon nonsense so they can rip off our industry and taxpayers to enrich the correct politicans and others “in the know”.
Report Post »Only a few thousand “fair” trials and executions of the ringleaders in this scam will redress the situation. Of course Al and Barry fit in that situation so don’t hold your breath for that to happen.
Oh yea, there are still idiots that actually are stupid enough (ignorant) to believe in this scam.
Juan
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 7:41pmA cycle that never seems to repeat it’s self. According to science the Earth has been volcanic, temperate, acidic oceans, frozen waste land and dried up prune. If there is a cycle it is one greater than science has proven and well beyond the ability of modern man to control.
Report Post »I know, I know. We are the God appointed Stewards of the Earth and our little Man Gods have repeatedly pointed this out to us and that is why we continue to kill each other. Fake science and fake religion continues to line the pockets of charlitons. We humans have no clue as to the glory and power of the almighty creator.
Just saying
Timekeeper
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 7:47pmI guess they want “the world” citizens to get wrapped around this “concept” – after all, it might mean a global tax, or more regulations, or world regulations… It’s a farce that has been found out, exposed, and proven over and over…hence the name change from “Global warming” to a much more inclusive “climate change” Pffft !
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 10:04pm@betterred — your percentage is way off. 97% Really! And where are you quoting that figure? I know that over 30,000 scientists of varying fields are on record stating that this is not proved. This is clearly a question over the methods employed to reach this conclusion, and an immense lack of raw data for verification.
We, of course, are talking about MAN MADE climate change right?
Silversmith
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 8:07am“The Earth has a fever and just like when your child has a fever, maybe that’s a warning of something seriously wrong,” AL Gore (Flat headed) wouldn’t lie to make a buck?
Report Post »jackrorabbit
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 12:03pm@Red
“1500 years ago everyone knew the world was the center of the universe, 500 years ago everyone knew that the world was flat, and 30 years ago these same scientists knew that we were heading into the next ice age, can you imagine what you will Know tomorrow.” from MIB with some minor tweaks
If you follow the 97% of scientists and ignore the 3% then the earth is still at the center of the solar system, the world is flat, and we should be in the middle of a global ice age. Fact, they were all wrong. When the weather man can get next weeks weather right 100% of the time, then I will believe that they can be right about the longer term. However, they are lucky if they bat 50%, so don’t hold your breath.
Report Post »razeus1
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 12:37pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftVDI8522p0
This is hilarious and pertinant to this topic! ;))
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on December 29, 2010 at 6:17am“When it comes to matters of science, I’ll look towards scientists.”
Ever notice that the people in news reports who are most “stumped” and “don’t have a clue why“ and ”this goes against all current consensus” are financial experts and scientists?
Report Post »WhiteGryphon
Posted on January 1, 2011 at 9:45amjust ran across this..
http://www.trutv.com/video/conspiracy-theory/full-episodes/global-warming.html
http://soldierforliberty.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/maurice-strong-man-behind-agenda-21/
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