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Mont. Honor Student Survives Expulsion After Forgetting Hunting Rifle in Car

A Montana high school junior will not be expelled for accidentally leaving a hunting rifle in her car and then parking on school property, the local school board decided Monday night.

Demari DeReu, 16, was immediately suspended after she turned herself in following a school PA announcement that contraband-sniffing dogs were on the premises. The 16-year-old honor roll student, class treasurer, and varsity cheerleader said she forgot the gun in her blue-green Honda Accord after a Thanksgiving hunting trip.

DeReu’s high school, Columbia Falls High school in Columbia Falls, MT, has a zero tolerance policy against guns on campus, in accordance with federal law. However, as Foxnews.com noted, that federal law does provide for some wiggle room on a case-by-case basis.

On Monday night, the school board exercised that case-by-case discretion and voted unanimously to not expel DeReu.

“I honestly expected to be expelled today,” she told the Daily Inter Lake after the vote.

Around 150 townspeople attended the board meeting to support DeReu, and about 20 picketers showed up as part of a supportive protest.

“I don’t think any crime was committed, and I don’t think any crime was intended,” said Clarence Taber of Columbia Falls. “This lady here is one we should hold up in our community as an example of what we’re looking for.”

But while the board will now allow DeRue back to school, she still is suffering the effects. Normally a 3.0 student, she‘s now receiving two F’s because of missing work and now must try to bring up the grades.

“At this point … I don’t have any teachers. I’m teaching myself,” she told the paper through tears. “It’s not fair for me to hear this isn’t going to affect my college education when I have two F’s since I’ve been suspended.”

In response, superintendent Michael Nicosia told the Inter Lake that the district would work with DeReu to help her catch up on the work she has missed while suspended and to mitigate any effect the incident might have as she pursues college.

That was welcomed news to DeRue: “I’m really happy that I can sort out all this mess, that it won’t affect me when I go to college.”

Read more from the Daily Inter Lake.

Comments (138)

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  • saved81207
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:25pm

    If they did not expell then they should give her a chance to make up the work.

    As far as forgetting, I had to stop carrying a pocket knife because I could not remember to take it out of my pocket when entering my childs school. I had carried one since grade school so it was just basically a part of me. I can see how this could have happened.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:36pm

      How would they know you had a pocket knife?

      Since when can the government demand that you disarm in order to conduct business with the government? That’s counter to the entire spirit and letter of the Constitution.

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  • rogersranger1776
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:11pm

    There is not a single gun law that makes sense. Political correctness has choked this country into stupidity. There is not a single incident of a gun crime on a campus that was prevented by such anti gun laws. If one chooses to commit such a crime there is little in the way of stopping them as long as no one else is carrying a gun. GUNS SAVE LIVES! OTHER PEOPLE WITH GUNS STOP CRIMES ALL THE TIME!

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  • TexasHillsPatriot
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:08pm

    I don’t remember reading that there were bullets available to use in the rifle. If there was no ammunition then a tire iron or a 2×4 could be considered a lethal weapon, which they could very well be. What a bunch of blinded idiots, screwing with a 16 year old’s life like that!

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  • Deda1
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:07pm

    If I read this right it is in accordance with federal law. It is not the feds business.

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  • jakartaman
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:59pm

    Some adults in our education system – good for them!
    Stay strong – 2012 is coming!

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  • Florida Steve
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:58pm

    A zero tolerance policy is just a zero brains policy for administrators. It tells them that they are not smart enough to deal with problems on a case by case basis. Of course, that is probably true of most public school administrators.

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  • conservativeone
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:55pm

    Thank God … Common Sense Prevails

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  • Eagle in NYC
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:53pm

    Although the school said it will work with her, liberal teachers enjoy nothing more than punishing conservative thoughts, words, and actions. How much does anyone want to bet that the 2 knee-jerk “F”s are from libs?

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  • OkiePatriot
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:49pm

    @ABC

    I have the right to keep and bear arms…that means I do….right now I’m at work, later I will be in my car and after that at home. So, If my arms are only at home how can I bear them in a time of need if I dont have them with me?

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:55pm

      He’s not interested in debate. He’s interested in trying to intimidate and bully through various painfully obvious logical fallacies that he hopes nobody notices.

      But I do. :)

      His best purpose here is to be used as a foil, in my estimation. Whatever is typed for his consideration is rejected out of hand if it does not fit into his already come to conclusions.

      Just an FYI. Slainte!

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  • PatriotsCause
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:47pm

    Glad to see that the school board actually took the time to really think this one out.

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    • KCXD45
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:58pm

      This should never have been required to go to the school board for a decision. This is nonsense!!! All these “Zero Tolerance” policies are set so no one is forced make a decision on their own or make a judgment call. They can just point to a policy on the paper and shrug. Cowards!

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  • youguysready_letsroll
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:44pm

    It‘s a good thing that the gun didn’t walk out of her Honda and start shooting people. She should be put in jail for putting so many people at risk..

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    • BurntHills
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:51pm

      she put no one at risk. the gun was properly stored in her car. she forgot it was in the back. she lives in a community where there are a lot of hunters. she is a responsible, good student. case closed.

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    • youguysready_letsroll
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 5:04pm

      I know…I was being sarcastic.

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  • PatriotDaze
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:43pm

    Survives expulsion? Ok….i can see ‘suffers’ expulsion….or ‘tolerates’ expulstion…but survives?? Who knew a high school suspension was life threatening?

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  • warner
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:39pm

    My Middle school actually had a .22 shooting range in its basement. Oour last class of the day was “Activities” class and one of the class was….yep, shooting class! THere were about 20 boys and girls that would go downstairs with two teachers and using rolled wrestling matts would target shoot into steel trap boxes. It was very controlled and of course the teachers demanded respect…if you screwed off you were gone! This was 1976… how many kids today even know how to safely handle a gun? Not to many…. so sad! Good luck to this young lady…she deserves a good life!

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    • OkiePatriot
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:54pm

      I agree…kids today are not taught these things and I believe that to be by design. If a population is not trained and armed then any govt or entity can rule over them however they want. The founders gave us the 2nd amendment for a reason!

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    • MicroChick
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:36pm

      Great point. We need to teach our children at a young age about guns, how to safely handle a gun, if, when, how to use one, instead of making more locks, safety’s and scaring everyone half to death! I think then there would be fewer accidents and incidents involving children. It’s like anything else, teach responsibility at a young age!

      I mean, comeon.. they use this same argument to teach sex ed. at a young age!

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  • Joisey
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:38pm

    The Overton Window: Everyone is debating her having a hunting rifle in her trunk on school property. No one is challenging the underlying reality that public schools are regularly, and randomly, subjected to “contraband smelling” dog search and seizure operations. Nobody is challenging the fact that public school students are now routinely subjected to such searches where no reasonable suspicion, nor probable cause, exists. How bad could the crime rate possibly be in Montana, anyway?

    A pity our government is not as interested in patrolling out border in this fashion.

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    • BernieKittyCat
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:20pm

      Amen.

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    • ozz
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 10:16pm

      Exactly!! I recall when I turned 18 the school tried to tell me I was still a minor because I was in school and could not leave school grounds when I pleased. I called bull shizz and walked out. They were shocked when I called them on their BS. Long story short…they did nothing to me over it because they lacked the authority to restrain an adult from leaving. The schools are trying to train our children to comply to this crap at an early age so they will be accepting of it in their adult life. IF YOU DO NOT PARENT YOUR CHILD THE STATE WILL!!

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  • Better_Red_than_Dead
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:38pm

    Nice to see the use of reason in the application of the law. Hopefully the school will work out a way for her to make up the missing work.

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    • Dexter Alarius
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 5:01pm

      Absolutely! At least this board didn’t mindlessly expel her like the one did to the boy who brought a GI Joe toy gun to school to play with. Yes, the plastic toy that is at most 2 or 3 inches long!
      Common sense ruled… for once.

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  • Moocephus
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:32pm

    It is good that she wasn’t suspended, However, bringing up her gpa should be her responsibility alone. Lets not forget, she was irresponsible for leaving the gun in her car. The same as a parent is irresponsible for leaving a gun where children can find them. Surely this incident and any gpa damage would not disqualify her from college acceptance.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:49pm

      We let guns in our car all the time, even in the school parking lot. In gun racks, in plain view even. Back when it was a right and not a “privilege”.

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    • republitarian
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:58pm

      Yeah, my guess is that “forgetting” it was a matter of convenience. But when the search was announced, she faced a very difficult choice. Just imagine walking into the principals office and saying “Um… I’m really,really sorry… I um… I have a gun in my car?” I’m so glad everyone did the right thing.

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    • Moocephus
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:01pm

      Owning a gun means also knowing where not to have the gun. I agree, back in our day rules were different and not necessarily bad.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:06pm

      Then the rules need to be rescinded and thrown into the dust bin. Zero tolerance, especially in regards to exercise of natural rights, is an outrage in a supposedly free nation. Instead of lamenting that “things were different then”, maybe we understand that things are different *now* and then question why we’ve allowed ourselves to be led down the primrose path of quiet slavery.

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  • davecoolworld
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:32pm

    Columbine would have been less deadly if guns were on campus that day. Perhaps the two ******** that killed all those people would never have done what they did if guns were at hand at Columbine.
    Statistics PROVE that States with LOOSER gun laws have LESS violent crime.

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    • TSUNAMI-22
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:47pm

      That’s because gun laws only apply to law abiding citizens. The criminal element doesn’t give a damn about gun control law. The more expansive and intrusively stifling of the gun laws…the higher victim mortality rate.

      I think it should be a national mandatory requirement that ALL responsible law abiding citizens be instructed and qualified in firearms safety and usage from age 18 upwards, and let open-carry be a privileged option in every state, similar to obtaining a driver’s license.

      The ******** criminals would have something to think twice about before committing of a crime.

      Your experience may vary, batteries not included.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:57pm

      But open carry is already a right. Rights are not privileges. You have a right without anybody’s permission, and retain it even in times when exercise of said right is limited (such as when you enter somebody else’s home).

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    • TSUNAMI-22
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:06pm

      …..but unfortunately I live in CA. Just to get a CCW in my county (San Joaquin) is expected to be a pain in the ass.

      Don’t get me wrong, I agree with you. I guess living in my state has brainwashed me somewhat into improper thinking. This state seems to foster crafty methods of law circumvention. It’s frustrating.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:12pm

      I hear ya’ Tsunami. When the propaganda is everywhere, it’s hard not to absorb some of the habits that the propaganda is trying to teach you.

      It’s a strange position I find myself in as of the last few years. I have a strong sense of right and wrong, and believe strongly in Rule of Law and not Men. But we find ourselves now in the Rule of Men, just like those who defied royalty did centuries ago. It is thus my thought that in order to conform to Rule of Law, that we must necessarily disobey the lawless Rule of Men.

      Hence, I now advocate firmly not getting ANY permits to exercise ANY right, at any time. And as I consider it, I find it a shame that I ever once thought “well, it’s only a CCW, and I’ll get to carry!” Those are the mental machinations of a slave, and it took me a while to realize it in my own positions.

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    • TSUNAMI-22
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:33pm

      @ GHOSTOFJEFFERSON

      Some quotes that I think you’ll appreciate. I know I do. :)

      http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/cccw/cache/quotes.html

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  • MeteoricLimbo
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:29pm

    Rehberg had input I would hope…

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  • sWampy
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:28pm

    Who grades on a 3.0 scale? If she isn’t graded on a 3.0 scale, who brags about someone being a B- student?

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    • LRC
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:41pm

      Careful SWAMPY, your halo is slipping…

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:44pm

      I was wondering the same thing. :)

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    • KCXD45
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:55pm

      That’s your total take on the issue? She’s a B student?!

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    • davuf
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:57pm

      Yeah :)

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    • sWampy
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:40pm

      I had commented earlier in the thread, I just thought it strange that 3 out of 4 might now be considered the kind of students we needed.

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    • Ron_WA
      Posted on December 15, 2010 at 12:05am

      You know, since 40% of American kids never graduate HS I think a 3.0 is something to be proud of especially given her extra-curricular activities to include hunting!

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    • sWampy
      Posted on December 15, 2010 at 1:43pm

      If 40% don’t graduate, we need to reevaluate the system, not lower the bar. America would be so much better off if we would admit 40% aren’t going to graduate, and take that 40% out of regular school at some point and concentrate on life skills. Plumbers, carpenters, welders, mechanics that get into it at 12 turn out to be much better at their craft than those that take it up at 20.

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  • Paleo2k
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:26pm

    While in school in North Dakota in the 60‘s and 70’s guns were often brought to class for show and tell (particularly after Christmas) as well as props for speech classes (on proper cleaning and maintenance, etc). We survived and learned a thing or two.

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    • sWampy
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:30pm

      We had a target range behind our gym, that we used during PE to learn to shoot both guns and bows. Many of us had guns in our cars, but would have never in a million years thought about using one on each other. We have seriously devalued how this generation values human life. The public schools teachings are going to destroy our society.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:34pm

      I and my fellow hunters had to bring our weapons to school, along with our hunting license, on the first day(s) of any given game season, to prove we were going hunting that day in order to get an excused absence. This in the mid 1980′s.

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    • the_ancient
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:40pm

      No Kidding, Our Normal PE Class in High School had a week long Bow Competition, we also had hunting clubs and shooting sports as after school activities (shooting sports were done at a local gun range not at the school though)

      I remember carrying all kinds of pocket knives and other such item all through both middle and high school.

      I really feel sorry for todays kids, we use to joke about school being a prison, sadly today they ARE prisons

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    • BRAVEHEART
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 3:34pm

      Are public schools still public, or have they been swallowed up by the federal government? Isn’t this another example of federal law superceding state and local law?

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    • Dexter Alarius
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 5:04pm

      People forget that the shooter in the bell tower in Texas in the 60s was kept pinned down by a faculty member who had his hunting rifle in his office. That faculty member saved lives.

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  • krenshau
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:25pm

    ABC, our rights are absolute and unqualified, regardless of the law. Nature’s law always supercedes any court decision. It may not play out that way in our country, but that doesn’t make it untrue. People make mistakes, Nature’s law does not.

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    • Camo Pants
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:53pm

      But I would rather someone NOT bring a gun to my school. Just saying. I can understand accidents, but if it looks suspicious then yeah…

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:04pm

      @Camo

      Why?

      Countless generations brought them prior to the current one. No school shootings at those times. Maybe the fear you’re being taught is being used to disarm you and train you to be fearful of all rights. Just a thought.

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    • biggreenboo
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:25pm

      No guns at school… there is alway some retarded kid that will get there hands on it and screw it up for everybody. What she did was not a crime (to me) and she shouldn’t have been punished… but that being said… keep guns out of school. Kids are NOTR the same as when most of us grew up… they WILL f it up.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:34pm

      If you don’t teach children to respect rights, at home, then you get what you get now. The rest of society should not have to pay because some idiots can’t raise their own children. Kids are human beings, they’re not somehow unteachable demons. Introduce mandatory gun training in schools for a couple of years (say, at 7th or 8th grade and forward) then after a good 4 year cycle, rescind current gun restrictions and let’s get back to a free nation.

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    • biggreenboo
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 3:17pm

      Sounds good until one of those so called “human being” children turns the gun on a teacher or other student. Maybe it’s just the area i live in. The parents can’t be trusted to teach there kids anything and the schools have now become even worse.
      I just don’t see any place for teaching about guns in schools (At least where I live) I will not speak for other parts of this nation. Maybe the kids are raised better or just got there heads screwed on better in other places.
      Now there was a kid at the skeet shooting range last week (probably 8 to 10) with his parents learning to shoot a 20 gauge… seemed like his parents were on the right track. So maybe there’s hope for this area?

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 15, 2010 at 10:28am

      Children are only “so called” human beings?

      You opt for safety. I opt for liberty.

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  • marhee9
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:20pm

    The liberal mindset is an amazing thing. They did a special at donsmithshow.com about this. Liberals are an amazing cult.

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    • cnsrvtvj
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:31pm

      That is a great site. I love the Biden interview they did last week. It was hilarious. I loved when he said he wanted to get Obama impeached.

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    • ZOMBIE JESUS LOVES ME
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 3:38pm

      Cult? Wait. We talking about Liberals or Mormons?

      ZOMBIE JESUS LOVES ME  
    • Ron_WA
      Posted on December 15, 2010 at 12:00am

      I really hate saying this but the Principal did what he was mandated to do by way of the letter of the law to enforce federal law but I’m glad to see the school board saw fit to correct the inappropriate nature of that law w/ regards to this situation.

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  • mikem1969
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:16pm

    Where I live, that happens all the time. There are a lot of hunters around, and they forget stuff in their trucks and cars all the time.

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    • scott367
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:42pm

      That is exactly why I got my CCW permit. I almost never carry a gun but its nice to know if I mistakenly am transporting a weapon to or from a hunting trip I have the CCW to fall back on. The CCW would do no good in this particular example though.

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    • rogersranger1776
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:02pm

      CCW are not needed. Supreme Court already ruled that the people have the right to bear arms. Why does one need to pay a fee to the state / county for a god given right. Carry a gun, get arrested, file suit, win your case plus $1,000,000 for violation of your rights! Time to start the real fight for right to bear arms.

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    • WAR PIGS CRAWLING
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 4:53pm

      @Rogersranger….so that means the mentally ill and convicted felons too? I agree about the fees that are charged for the conceal carry permit are too much, but to imply there is carte blanche to carry is insane. I believe every capable, law abiding, sober citizen has the right to carry. You are flirting on the side of anarchy.

      Life Member NRA

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    • EP46
      Posted on December 15, 2010 at 6:39am

      @Mike
      Be safe mike…don’t park your truck at Walmart. Someone will call Big Sis and report you and the gestapo will arrest you. This ‘see something say something’ in Walmart is DANGEROUS. BOYCOTT WALMART until they remove the GESTAPO BIG SIS VIDEO
      In the south, especially, lots of trucks have gun racks, lots of folks have political stickers, flags, etc. on vehicles Be aware, it is now easy to target you at Walmart.

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  • guyperram
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:13pm

    At least they had the brains to do the correct thing.
    Either we have the right to bear arms, or we don’t. Way past time to correct this problem.

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    • abc
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:17pm

      Every right guaranteed by the Constitution is not unlimited or unqualified. You have a right to bear arms, but not at a school, per federal law that has been upheld by the courts. Only a moron believes that his rights are not qualified by legal decisions, and even Scalia admitted that your right to bear arms is not absolute in his opinion in Heller. You make a fool out of yourself with comments such as this.

       
    • Rapunzel
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:24pm

      @ABC – just because a court decided it, doesn’t make it right or constitutional. Unjust or unconstitutional decisions can be challenged and overturned.

      On another note, it is a shame you did not grow up in the kind of home where you would have been taught not to call people names.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:32pm

      @ABC

      Yes, in fact, they are absolute insofar as our relationship to the government is concerned. While a private party may dictate whether we’re permitted on his premises with a weapon, the public square falls under the domain of the Constitution, which tells us what government may or may not do.

      And in fact you do have a “right” to yell fire in a crowded movie house. However, if your yelling it causes a panic and damage, then you are liable for the results of the actions.

      You are put on notice. Your world of “except” does not apply any longer. There are no words “except” in the Bill of Rights applying to our right to bear arms (nor to our right to freedom of speech, nor to our right to freedom from warantless searches). Sorry.

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    • cubber
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:32pm

      @ABC – Go read the constitution again. Or maybe for the first time.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:32pm

      @ABC

      And what’s with the ad hominem? Nobody has said “boo” to you on this thread, and your lead in is with sneering and name calling. Can you address people in no other way?

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    • TEIN
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:54pm

      30 years ago, in rural town I lived and went to high school, the majority of the kids had rifles in their trucks or cars during hunting season. Most of the farmer’s kids had rifles in there trucks all the time. You went hunting with your friend after school let out. And guess how many accidental shooting, or any shooting’s occur??…zero, none, nada, 0%….I guess we must of been more responsible, and more adult back 30 years ago…

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    • biggreenboo
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:00pm

      It just goes to show ya… No good deed goes unpunished. She turned herself in (because of a mistake) and they suspend her. Zero tolerance laws = blind leading the blind.

      At least they figured it out in the end and did the right thing.

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    • Highland
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:16pm

      If the gun was in the car, how the heck was she a threat to anyone inside the school?

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    • evilconservative
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:28pm

      @ABC
      I‘m not sayin’ anyone’s a moron, but generalizing about “all rights” in the face of different wordings in the document seems, oh, a tad shallow-thinking to me. Let’s see the 2nd amendment ends “… the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Now, maybe it’s just me, but the New Oxford English dictionary says that means the Federal government shall not “act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on : his legal rights were being infringed”. Now, to me, that sounds like it pretty-much says this particular right is not subject to limitation. Whatcha’ think, Sparky?

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    • Michigan Vacation
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 4:50pm

      It all revolves around the word “infringed.”

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    • SunnyJ
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 8:16pm

      ABC is back with the ridicule of anyone that disagrees with the current position taken or with his/her postion. I told you nicely before and telling you nicely again…stop the ridicule when you post opposition. It’s a very old and transparent bullying technique. On the beach you‘d be the one kicking sand in someone’s face. Right now I think anyone that gets a “you’re a fool”, “stupid”, “idiot” or any variation there of from you must consider putting it on their resume. Would be a very good employment search technique. The post you responded to doesn’t agree. Scalia is conservative yes, but he’s not God, just a man with a excellentmind, there may be other good minds that disagree and are more libertatian. Perhaps you could work on developing some critical thinking skills that include recognizing there are “degrees” and taxonomies of thought progression. While you’re working on that STFU.

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    • Ron_WA
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 11:53pm

      RAPUNZEL: sorry but if the Supreme Court rules it unconstitutional it does make it so (thus the reason for a Constitutional Supreme Court – duh) but I agree it doesn’t make it “right”. We need to balance common sense, societal norms, and what’s right (God’s message) with a proper application of the “law”.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 15, 2010 at 10:27am

      Nope. There is no clause in the Constitution stating that SCOTUS gets to determine the validity of the Constitution. They have appellate power only, they can review and rule on current cases passed up to them by the lower courts, which may have nothing whatsoever to do with the Constitution.

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    • Ron_WA
      Posted on December 15, 2010 at 1:10pm

      GHOSTOFJEFFERSON: you’re absolutely right (for the most part) but w/in their appellate power is the duty to rule on the constitutionality of cases that come before them thus if they rule something constitutional or unconstitutional them at least in that case it becomes so

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  • cubber
    Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:13pm

    Invest the the three precious metals. Gold, Silver and Lead. BE PREPARED.

    cubber  
    • SgtB
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:29pm

      Would they have shown such lenience (?) to a male student? My guess is no, but hopefully we’ll get all of this crap thrown out someday and people can be allowed to do what they want with their own property again.

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    • dkhartman
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:50pm

      SGTB – I agree. A male would have been a bit more complicated. I’m glad they let her be though.

      Truth is, if someone wants to bring a gun to school and start shooting, they’re going to do it. No law is going to stop it. So innocently leaving your gun in your vehicle where clearly no harm was intended should not have caused her to miss school and be suspended at all. A bit ridiculous. This happened in my town a few years back and it was a guy. But the town I live in is quite conservative and understanding… Well, back then. I can feel it changing which is why I want out. Although our FB team just made it to state.

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    • wildjoker5
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 1:56pm

      It is Mont. Could have been a class on hunting there.

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    • FED-UP-AND-READY-TO-TAKE-ACTION
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:01pm

      The reality of zero tolerance regarding guns on school property is nothing more than a “fix” for the administration and parents. This effect gives everyone some hope and somewhat confidence that their kid will not be killed while at school. This is the same thought process that the left has been pushing for years regarding guns in general. If someone is determined to do harm they will do harm plain and simple with or without a gun. Just to show how far out in “left” field we can gotten when I was in HS 60′S-70′S WE COULD BRING OUR GUNS TO SCHOOL AND SHOW THEM AND EVEN SHOOT AT LUNCH BREAK BUT LAVING THE ZEOR TOLERANCE IN PLACE MAKES IT SEEM AS IF EVERYTHING IS OK……………..VICTORY OR DEATH

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    • RightWrite
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:06pm

      Those Leftist teachers giving her Fs need to be ‘schooled’ !! You know they are eFing gun haters!

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    • oldoldtimer
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 2:52pm

      This would not be a problem if they just required the kids to ride the busses provided free. No car no guns. Why does every parent think little Suzy is too good to ride the bus? Some schools have bigger student parking lots than some malls.

       
    • dorightfearnothing
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 3:27pm

      All Firearms are precious metal….

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    • 1776Federalist
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 3:33pm

      Hey OLDOLDTAHMER; My kids would have had to get up and to the bus stop an hour before school started, then been on the bus for an hour after school ended. We live 5 miles from school. That would have made them less likely to have been able to hold down the jobs the worked at in the next town, 12 miles away. Not every kid drives to school because they think they are too good. Some districts around here in Colorado are also talking about charging all of the kids to ride the buses as well (Of course they won’t be charging the 60+% that don’t pay for school lunches because they are too “poor”). This was an honest mistake, and I am glad to see reason won out in the long run.

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    • ME
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 3:45pm

      Love it, Lots of Lead investments here:)

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    • USN Patriot
      Posted on December 14, 2010 at 6:11pm

      I invest in Brass and Lead……….. I get gunpowder thrown in free!!!!!

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    • proudinfidel54
      Posted on December 15, 2010 at 10:15am

      Zero Tolerance does nothing to protect students as DKHARTMAN said, someone that troubled as to open fire on the school is not going to think twice about any law, this is just another way in which our goverment is systematically taking away our rights to bear arms.

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