Pres. Morsi Vows to Solve Egypt’s Staggering ‘Trash Crisis’ in 100 Days
- Posted on September 1, 2012 at 7:40pm by
Erica Ritz
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(The Blaze/AP) — The pile of trash overwhelmed the median divider on Ahmed Zaki Street and spilled into oncoming traffic – egg shells, rotten eggplants, soiled diapers, bottles, broken furniture, junked TV sets. Flies swarmed and the summer sun baked up a powerful stench.
Then Kawther Ahmed and her mom came out to add their plastic bag of household trash. The garbage collectors hadn’t been by for two days, said Ahmed, 25, and the metal trash bins in the lower-income Cairo neighborhood, called Dar el-Salam or “House of Peace,” had disappeared, probably sold for scrap metal. “What can we do?” she asked.
Egypt’s newly elected president, Mohammed Morsi, is under growing pressure to answer that question.
He already faces a host of challenges: from secular Egyptians worried about his Islamist doctrines; from militants trying to stoke conflict with Israel, and from the poverty and joblessness that fed the Arab Spring and brought down the three-decade dictatorship of Hosni Mubarak.
To all those, add the rising tide of garbage in Cairo, the world’s largest Arab city. Morsi declared it one of his top five priorities, promising to clean up the streets within 100 days. In so doing, he gave the electorate a powerful way of measuring his abilities, and it looks increasingly certain that 100 days will be nowhere near enough.
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Cairo‘s waste management problem worsened significantly a decade ago as the capital’s old system, simple but reliable, became swamped by population growth. A government modernization effort flopped. A swine flu panic prompted the mass slaughter of the pigs that recycled Cairo’s organic garbage; the city’s metal trash bins were easy prey for thieves, especially during the global scrap metal boom.
In Dar-el-Salam, as in many other parts of the city of 18 million, there is no one to hold back the “nabasheen,” the diggers – young men and women who rummage through the bags of plastic, glass and cardboard and leave the organic stuff to rot in the streets.
Morsi is wading into a landfill of interwoven problems. Rival collectors vying for the big business of trash fight over turf that used to be parceled out in an orderly way among a fixed number of garbage-collecting clans. Layers of corrupt and inefficient bureaucracy choke the system. The collapse of police forces in the revolution in early 2011 means that no one is enforcing what few rules there are.
As a result, Cairenes end up dumping much of their daily output of 17,000 tons of garbage on the street.
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“We have designed an unsustainable system for the city,” said Laila Iskandar, an expert in waste management. “It is a chain and no one thinks of the chain. Only the end point … Out of sight out of mind.”
In late July, Morsi launched a “Clean Homeland” campaign, giving free brooms and plastic bags to volunteers from civic groups and the Muslim Brotherhood to which Morsi belongs. They hit several Cairo districts, helped by local authorities, for two days and then turned it into a weekly campaign. They swarm the streets, removing piles of trash.
But the garbage quickly returns.
In Ahmed’s neighborhood in south Cairo, residents say, the volunteers kept watch for hours to fend off dumpers and diggers. “Even the girls were collecting garbage. The street was sparkling,” said Mamdouh Gamea, a dentist. “But it didn’t last. It is a matter of behavior.”
Waleed el-Senoussi, manager of the Clean Homeland campaign and hygiene file in Morsi’s office, said the idea was to define the problems and come up with solutions. The government, he said in an interview, wants to tackle the problem on a national level and issue bids for a more technological system that includes burning waste for energy.
In this photo taken in Sunday, May 20, 2012, an Egyptian Coptic Christian boy, Mina Anwar, looks on as he stands next to garbage bags, in the Moqattam area in Cairo, Egypt, where more than 60,000 Christians known as the Zabaleen, or "garbage people," collect, separate, sell or reuse the city's trash. (Photo: AP)
“The big strategy is to turn the garbage from a pain, a burden and a problem into a product that has a market value,” he said. “It is unreasonable to solve our problems by going backward.”
But experts fear they will trample the traditional systems that have served Cairo well.
The traditional way is that of the zabbaleen, up to 150,000 informal garbagemen who go door to door and collect trash for a minimal fee, transport it to their own neighborhoods and sort out the recyclables. The organic material is fed to pigs. (It’s a Christian-dominated industry; Muslims shun the animals.)
The result has been an astounding recycling rate of around 80 percent, and an informal recycling business in which they invested a cumulative $150 million over the past 40 years, according to Iskandar. In Manshiet Nasr, the largest of six garbage cities in Cairo, whole families work at recycling and thousands of workshops produce everything from plastic mats to shoe heels and clothes hangers.
But the zabbaleen couldn’t keep up with population growth. So in 2003, the Mubarak government, as part of a failed bid to host the soccer World Cup, contracted international companies to take up garbage collection. But it threw the system into chaos.
Egyptians fill garbage bags after separating it, in the Moqattam area in Cairo, Egypt, where more than 60,000 Christians known as the Zabaleen, or "garbage people," collect, separate, sell or reuse the city's trash. (Photo: AP)
The companies worked with dumpsters, but Cairenes didn’t use them, having grown used to the zabbaleen coming to their doorstep. Many resented paying both the companies and the zabbaleen. And the zabbaleen resented being squeezed out by the companies. Fights broke out over collecting schedules and routes. Many dumpsters disappeared.
Then came the swine flu panic of 2009. Deprived of their pigs, the zabbaleen no longer had any interest in collecting organic waste.
The end result: The government waste department can’t cope, the companies don‘t have dumpsters or the zabbaleen don’t come through. So on any given day – or stretch of days – a given neighborhood becomes a “no-man’s land” of garbage. Instead, there are the diggers, who take what can be recycled and sell it to the zabbaleen, leaving the food scraps strewn on the streets.
The zabbaleen still collect about 8,000 tons – more than half the daily output – and the companies about 3,000, leaving much of the remaining 6,000 tons on the streets, a lot dumped in the canals and some in the Nile River that flows through the capital.
The surrounding desert makes a useful trash bin and the government operates a half-dozen dumps which anyone can use for a fee. The private companies have their own landfills next to composting plants in outlying cities around Cairo. But only about 3 percent of the trash they gather is recycled, according to a government study cited by Iskandar.
In this Thursday, Aug. 16, 2012 photo, an Egyptian waste collector unloads garbage at a container in Cairo, Egypt. (Photo: AP)
So far, the zabbaleen say, the Muslim Brotherhood and Morsi, like the Mubarak regime, show every sign of ignoring them in favor of developing a new garbage system. They say Morsi‘s administration didn’t consult with the biggest community of zabbaleen about the volunteer clean-up campaign or ask them to be part of it.
“We only heard talk of it,” said Romani, a Christian collector in the Manshiet Nasr garbage city, who requested partial anonymity because he fears his community’s livelihood is threatened. “It seems they want to take my bread and butter,” he said. “This would kill me.”
Egypt’s Christian minority, around 10 percent of Egypt’s 83 million people, as a whole is worried that its livelihood would suffer under Islamist rule. Government representatives, however, assure religious differences are not a factor in transferring control of Egypt’s waste management.
Zabbaleen recycling is very basic and only operates in Cairo and Alexandria, Egypt’s second city, while the rest of the country has even more rudimentary systems. With the planned reforms, “We are talking about something that would benefit the whole country not just individuals,” said el-Senoussi.
“People have a right to a clean life,” he said. “We can get rid of garbage and benefit the country.”
Back at Ahmed Zaki Street, having dumped their bag of trash, Ahmed’s mother, Noura Abdel-Salam, said there was plenty more back home.
“We have to walk all this way ourselves to dump our garbage,” she said. “We pay the government and the collectors and end up doing it ourselves.”
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Comments (183)
mjazzguitar
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:58pmWell, Barry said “I will stand with them should the… winds shift in an ugly direction…
Report Post »americansfightingforcommonsense
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 9:14amHow’s that HOPE and CHANGE working for you in Egypt now?…… That’s what I thought! … Same as here…. the trash is filling the streets (OWS) and the government has NO answers.
Report Post »poorrichard09
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 9:36amThis what islamic rule looks like.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 9:54amSo the new currency or commodity is trash?
Lookin good Egypt! So a Christian based industry collects the garbage from the filthy Muslims to solve their trash problem. Muslims solution is to kill all Christians.
These people are morons.
Report Post »mattmo79
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 10:13amI guess Mohammed didn’t believe in trash pickup!
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 10:31amMuslims try to avoid anything they consider unclean. Somehow I can’t see them sorting trash by hand.
Even working at a city dumb using machines probably bring s person in to disfavor.
Too many Muslims thing about cleanliness like a pharisee would get all caught up talking about work on the Sabbath
Report Post »Legalette
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 11:04amThose sorting through the trash are Christians, not Muslims.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 11:39amHaven’t they ever heard of burn piles? Atleast its sanitary! I feel sorry for the kids who must endure living in this hell hole. Their government in constant squabble ever since they overthrew the one who was keeping the place up and running….now they must reinvent the wheel here. No wonder muslims have never gotten ahead in the world. Their too busy pounding their chests in pride.
Report Post »1TrueOne55
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 11:46amIF the world is ruled by this group of Religious Zealots is that what it has to look “FORWARD” to? If so Al Gore will be a gaZillionaire charging for all the carbon waste in the trash. ROFLMAO. Global climate change will be really accelerated with all that methane and other gases given off by rotting garbage.
Is Al Gore investing in their new desire to burn their garbage?
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 12:18pm……If you refine heroin for a living, but have a moral objection to liquor….you are a muslim
Report Post »If you wipe your but with your bare hand, but think bacon is unclean….you are a muslim.
If you own a 3,000 dollar machine gun and a 5,000 dollar rocket launcher, but you can’t afford shoes…….you are a muslim.
Max jones
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 12:19pmoops, credit Jeff Foxworthy for above comments.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 12:31pmLegalette
I know it is the Christians sorting the garbage.
The Muslims treat the Christians like untouchables are treated in India & eta were in Japan.
I still can’t see Muslims in the garbage business. SO I can’t see the problem being solved anytime soon.
Yes they will solve the problem 1st but there will be a war 1st because Morsi is that vain, prideful & stupid. The war might not solve any problem & create new ones but to a so called leader in a bad fix it seems like a war to distract the population is a winner.
Report Post »aragona
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 1:10pmI guess they aren’t allowed to burn their trash. That would be bad for the environment, right? Who cares if this is becoming a health/sanitation problem so long as no harm is done to the environment.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 2:43pmYeah thanks legalette.
The Muslim would rather just let the trash sit there and do nothing. Soon all Christians will leave and Muslims will fester in their own filth.
Great point. It’s always nice to see interesting perspectives being brought to the table. Then again your post was pointless. Try again.
Report Post »yiska8
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 8:45pmObama’s Egypt. He encouraged this. He built this with the Muslim Brotherhood and it stinks to high hell. Hey Egyptians, were you better off four years ago?
Report Post »mjazzguitar
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:52pmislam doesn’t have any answers. They depend on the West & Israel for science and technology, and any kind of innovation. Israel leadsthe world in patents for medical devices on a per capita basis. The arabs have 30 times the population of Greece and the Greeks translate 30 times the number of books.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 2:53pmOur leaders think they are a threat, they can not even take care of their own trash. Very sad. The Egyptians need to Wake up. God bless them
Report Post »Totally Domestic
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:52pmBreath in the fresh smell of the Arab Spring
Report Post »db321
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 12:17amIsn’t it amazing how followers of Satan never considers the details.
Report Post »cloudsofwar
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 8:34amthis is how Obama wants America to look. Obama wants us to be like any other 3rd world nation. go see the movie Obamas america 2016.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 12:20pmI don’t think a soap labeled “arab spring” could compete in a world ruled by Irish Spring.
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:39pmLooks like Arab Spring is working out well. Or did the OWS have an event there (is there really any difference)?
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 9:58pmBecause the problem only existed since Mubarak left?
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 1:44amChristians are treated like slaves in Egypt. Since the public tension has risen with the Muslim brotherhood’s rise in power, it is not safe for the slaves to do the public work…hence ,no trash pick up.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 10:03amNo sheepy
The place has always been a third world pig pen. Thats how they choose to live. Don’t believe me? Go to any Muslim neighborhood in Germany. The proud Germans with the goal of multiculturalism have to watch as Muslim Turks throw their trash out of apartment windows to the street.
But good thing you are an ex republisheep. You just keep on fighting for that multiculturism. Won‘t be long before your picking up someone’s dirty diapers from your yard. Tool.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 10:13amMax Jones
You nailed it ion 2 sentences
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 10:14amExrepublisheep
Because the problem only existed since Mubarak left?
Report Post »***
No, but they became much worse after he left.
bdandsl
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:29pmObama’s Ameritopia…
Report Post »SandyfromChesterfield
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:25pmWhen I went to Egypt in the 90s the people were putting their trash on the roofs of their homes. Smelled really nice! You would also see smart carts pulled by donkeys on the main roads that would pick up the trash. That was a traffic nightmare too.
Report Post »capnjack2010
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:46pmAhhh, the refreshing winds of the Arab spring, the shinning example of Islam and Muslim culture, wouldn’t it be great if we ignorant americans could just see the truth and could just be so enlightened as the recognize the superiority of the Muslim culture? Is this what obummer meant when he made the primary mission of NASA to reach out to the Muslim world in order to recognize their great contributions to humanity?
The next step is one of the riders of the apocalypse “pestilence” showing up. With all that garbage the rats are sure to follow and nothing like a good ole case of bubonic plague to clean house with these medieval through backs! May god have mercy on their retched souls.
Report Post »ComingUnglued
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 7:56amI was there with my husband in 1989, I think they still live alongside construction debris from the pyramids. What a filthy country? I thought it would be nice to cruise down the Nile, like Cleopatra. The people bathe, drink, rinse clothes and throw garbage in and alongside the Nile River. Couldn’t wait to leave. Our tour consisted of Africa and Egypt. I tell people we went to Africa. I try to forget the rest.
Report Post »BetterInformed
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:23pmThese people reley on others to solve there problems. America, Britain, Germany etc.
Report Post »What was ever invented in the middle east other than sand?
jumbles
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:35pmTextiles,rush weaving,essential oils,calligraphy,coin minting,stone carving,cultivation of fertile plains etc. etc.
Report Post »Eastinfection
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:39pmUm.. if you believe the bible… mankind.
Report Post »jumbles
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:47pmOh yeah! and Jesus.
Report Post »christos
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 10:03pmto jumbles – …….+JESUS+ was not invented +HE+ was Born.
Report Post »jumbles
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 10:13pmYou are correct.he was born it was just the events of his life that were invented.
Report Post »roostercogburn
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 11:49pmWell, a few things were created in the middle east, but not by muslims, the muslims have been unable to do anything but destroy things built by others, off hand the only thing I can think of that was created by muslims was terrorist bombings.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 1:47amOh. JUMBLES, you are so silly. And I mean that in the best way.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 10:11amBetterInformed
The Coptic Christians solved the problems of the Egyptian Muslims. The Christians were frozen out of money jobs, Trash collection was a job they could do. It seems as thought the Muslim Brotherhood government is intent on killing all Christians by depriving them the possibility of any job.
Report Post »mattmo79
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 10:19amNothing much for the last 1,000 years!
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 10:20amjumbles
Textiles,rush weaving,essential oils,calligraphy,coin minting,stone carving,cultivation of fertile plains etc. etc.
***
Textiles,rush weaving (same thing more or less).: We didn’t need the Arabs for textiles. I would bet that this would spontaneously appear around the globe. The American Indian left the old world 30,000 to 14,000 years ago before the agricultural revolution. Point is they didn’t learn it from anyone in the Middle East. The Canaanites, Sumerian, Akkadian probably invented all this stuff in their region & the Arab Bully boys just came in & took over after it was invented.
I do believe that India came up with the whole cotton weaving thing. The Greeks were into flax & wool, which they got from the I do European Homeland of Anatolia & not from Arabs in the Hi9jaz region.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 10:29amJumbled Thinking
calligraphy,coin minting,stone carving,cultivation of fertile plains
calligraphy or writing Canaanites, Sumer, China, Egyptians, & American Indian. The Egyptians or the Arab invaders of Egypt did not give this to the world.
The Egyptians , Arabs or Muslims gave us coinage. Puuuuuhleeeeease stop spreading dis-information!!
“First coins
Anatolian gold coin from 4th century Mysia.
Some archaeological and literary evidences suggest that the Indians invented coinage, somewhere between the 6th to 5th century BC.[3] However, some numismatists consider coins to have originated ca. 600-550 BC in Anatolia, which corresponds to modern-day Turkey, in particular in the Anatolian kingdom of Lydia -wiki
cultivation of fertile plains: Sumer, China, Korea, Japan
The Egyptians are a mix of Arab invaders & original Egyptians. The Copts are pure descendants of original Egyptians beset by cruel invaders form the Saudi Arabian Peninsula
Stone Carving: Show me a people who anywhere in the world & they carve stone whether they have contact with the middle East or not.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 10:42amcorrection: “many jobs” not‘ money jobs’
Report Post »LIBTARD_SLAYER
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:18pmIs the phrase “Trash Crisis“ Muslim Brotherrhood code for Christians, because I can`t see the Coptic Christians lasting 100 days under this lunatic. Remember when the Dumbocrats accused Palin for being clueless where foreign affairs were concerned. How`s that working out…..Barry might actually be stupider that Jimmy Carter, and that`s saying something!
Report Post »TurboCat
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 7:13amHmmmm….let’s see….Palin? or Biden? Palin? or Biden? Who’s the smarter? Hmmm…let’s see…..
Report Post »deltaecho
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:17pmSome men are born to garbage. Others have garbage thrust upon them.
Report Post »MrKnowItAll
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:14pmAll there Landfills are used for Anti Morsi Massive Murder Victims. From 100 days before Morsi was Elected.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:11pmLooks like the ppl r now shopping 4 a discount.
Report Post »watersRpeople
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:11pmMany cities in the Mid-East have trash pollution issues. But I guess they at least don’t export their garbage like American cities do. And eventually they will run out of land to export garbage to.
Report Post »jespasinthru
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 10:02pmThe United States doesn’t export garbage. We put it in landfills. And when those landfills get too big we cover them with soil, plant grass sod over them, and turn them into parks. You would be amazed at how many of America’s prettiest parks are actually covered-over landfills.
Report Post »Maximus_Delta
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:07pmLMAO Welcome to the Sharia Muslim 3rd world mentality. Kind of reminds me of Africa where the muslims reign.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:16pmKind of reminds me of a dump where the birds hang out.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:19pmPS – the birds r eatting the fly’s
Report Post »chips1
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 11:49amMAXIMUS:
Report Post »At least in Africa they can smoke their huts!!!
Sirfoldallot
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:06pm300 days & they will have suwer but they will still have 2 use there turban 2 whip there hands
Report Post »jespasinthru
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 10:04pmWas that English?
Report Post »Eastinfection
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:04pmSmells Like Teen Spirit! Enjoying those big deep breaths or “free-air” yet? Well done Egypt. Well done. By getting rid of the “christian pigs” you have become pigs, yourselves. Time to gather in the public square, rape a few more journalists, condemn Israel, and demand yet another regime change perhaps?
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:13pmlol, there thinking about it , Bush’s fault.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:03pm200 days & they will have runing water
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:01pmWhat, so all the Muslims will be gone in a hundred days?
Report Post »TJexcite
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:00pmIt all boils down to the only job that Coptic Christian where allowed to do was to work as trash collectors. Then recycle the trash as much as one can for a daily life. Now most the Coptic Christian had to flee the Arab spring as their churches where all burned out and the only Coptic Christian are low enough to collect trash so it piles up.
Removing the trash was a form of the Dhimmi tax paid by Coptic Christian.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:09pmOnly the Coptic Christian have the pigs that eat the organic garbage. When the pigs were killed the Coptic Christians stopped collecting.
Democracy in action.
Report Post »JACKTHETOAD
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 7:59pmIsrael could do it lickety-split.
Report Post »Eraina962
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 12:27amWhy should the Israelis be responsible for picking up Egyptian garbage?
Report Post »Eraina962
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 12:30amJackthetoad, why should the Israelis be responsible for picking up Egyptian garbage?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 10:44amGarbage is a valuable resource. Pick up a civilization’s garbage for a few centuries & they will become paupers.
Report Post »the gray lensman
Posted on September 3, 2012 at 2:23amEgyptian muslim = human trash.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 7:57pmDamn it they forgot that 1, oppsyy.
Report Post »OhSnappage
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 7:54pmThe value they put on society and respect for civility is yet again on display.
Report Post »CFL
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 7:54pmTri-Ox: you are absolutely right.
O/T, the best Photoshop reactions to Clint Eastwood’s excellent speech…
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2012/08/best-reactions-to-presidents-this-seats.html
Report Post »bdandsl
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:28pmGood one!
Report Post »KangarooJack
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 7:49pmThey should round up any uncovered dancing women to be put to death in some arena ….that will distract them!
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 7:48pmThe bigger problem there is the “human” trash. Could solve it with a tanker of special “Koolaid” and a lot of Dixie cups.
Report Post »jumbles
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:42pmYou may as well die right now because the rest of your life will be spent in a haze of self induced ignorance.What a shame.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 9:35pmAnother irrational comment from the limey clown.
Report Post »jumbles
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 9:47pmAnother moronic retort from the slow witted soothsayer.
Report Post »jumbles
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 9:57pm…..and show some respect to your imperial masters you colonial reject.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 10:34amJumbled Thinking
Does the Dinshaway Incident ring a bell?
Ireland, America, India, Egypt. << A few of the places Britain has screwed up.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 2, 2012 at 10:47amDinshaway Incident
Brits behaving normally by going on a hunting trip & shooting someone else’s domesticated animals that they rely on for survival and not seeing the problem with it at all.
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 7:44pmThis is what America will look like if we allow obama to remain in power.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:15pmYup
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on September 1, 2012 at 8:31pmCorrect, I think they call it democracy OWS style.
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