Motivational Speaker Told He’s Too Disabled to Fly
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GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (AP) — A motivational speaker with cerebral palsy says he was kicked off a U.S. Airways flight after being told he was too disabled to fly alone.
Forty-seven-year-old Johnnie Tuitel of Grand Rapids Township, Mich., told The Grand Rapids Press that he has flown over 500,000 miles to give motivational speeches. But Tuitel says he missed a speech because of the Sept. 23 incident at Palm Beach International Airport.
U.S. Airways‘ website says people can’t fly alone if they wouldn’t be able to help themselves or others in an emergency. A company spokeswoman says the crew was following company policy.
Tuitel says he will meet with U.S. Airways employees in coming weeks to discuss his concerns with the policy, which he hopes will be changed.
Tuitel says he was raised to believe he shouldn’t require special treatment.
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DSTSS2010
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 8:53amIf U.S. Airways is that concerned about an accident, I think I’d consider a “SAFER” airline. My guess is that there is an insurance company involved in the making of this policy.
Report Post »Wenchypoo
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 8:32amAnybody concerned at all about the multitudes of DRUNK PILOTS in the cockpits? Talk about being too “disabled” to fly…
Report Post »Amethystmoon
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 8:13amThis is yet another nudge by the left, folks. Disabled people will soon be denied health care, too.
Report Post »EP46
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 6:52amAre you ‘able’ to fly if you do not speak English or understand it? Are you ‘able’ to fly if you are the pilot and you are drunk ?? Are you able to fly if your brain is bigger than your skull ??
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 7:27amLove your response. The brain one is making me LMBO.
Report Post »momsense
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 6:31amWhy not do a common sense thing and remove a few seats to accommodate passengers in wheelchairs Someone culd nvent a machanism for locking wheelchairs in place during takeoffs and landings to secure the safety of the passenger and they wouldn‘t be anyone’s way. This is a violation of civil rights.
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 6:21amBut he wasn’t alone unless, of course, he was the only person on that flight. This society of every man for himself if sickening. What the airlines is saying is all their other passengers are selfish, self-serving creeps who wouldn’t help a disabled person in the case of an emergency. In that case, none of us should fly US Airways because in an emergency we would be on our own. And to think they have always been my carrier of choice – NOT anymore.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 6:19amI hate to overcomplicate this, but was it determined if the flight over land or over sea? Some disabled persons are good swimmers you know. Must we now be able to swim on over sea flights?
Report Post »Jimmers46
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 6:05amMore B S!
Report Post »thegr8restoration
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 3:26amWe are all flying by the seat of our own pants. Let the man fly! You cant plan an accident you can only react. If it comes down to it I’ll help him or die trying.
Report Post »Skwerl E. Muckenfutch
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 10:53amWhat occurred to me that in the case of a crash wouldn’t a large amount of the people be incapacitated? So barring this man is a moot point. Let him fly. Now if we’re talking about the bag-hogs…ban away!
Report Post »thefiremanjoe
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 3:17am@George Washington – How would you feel if you were on the same flight as Johnnie when in an emergency situation he is blocking the aisle, unable to move and, you could not move him so that you could get to an emergency exit?
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Who says that he would be blocking the ilse?? Just because he‘s disabled doesn’t mean that he can’t fend for himself!! For all we know, he might be able to get out of harms way faster then you or I!! Don‘t discount the disabled just because you don’t know what they are capable of doing on their own.
Report Post »George Washington
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 2:39pmI am disabled. I know what my capabilities and limitations are. First of all, I would not do anything which would place anyone, including myself in harms way. Even if it means foregoing certain activities.
Report Post »4wheels
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 2:58amIf this is true, what about paraplegics? There is no way I can get off a plane without help. I at least need a wheelchair. Does this mean I can’t fly alone?
Report Post »joseph Fawcett
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 1:48amYou mean that there would no one there to help him if there was a need? So you don’t put him by an escape route. As long as he can get on, off, and into his seat and out of his seat by himself he should be allowed to fly.
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Report Post »George Washington
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 1:27amTO ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN ANSWERING ME. Thanks for your comments. Most of them make sense. The others are open for discussion. Let me say this. You have high ideals as do I. Under normal circumstances we would go out of our way to help someone who needs it. However, in a life threatening emergency, we do not know how we will react. We do not know what we will be thinking. It has been proven that many people died unnecessarily because they or others around them panicked in emergency situations. One cannot know what one will do until something happens. The point I am trying to make is that we must minimize the risk to everyone concerned. When it comes to emergencies, there are many variables such as presence of fire, smoke, fumes, explosion, structural or mechanical failure, in air collision, collision with land, collision on water and the taking on of water.or collision with another aircraft. or anything else. As distasteful as it may seem, under certain circumstances, certain individuals should be barred from certain activities. I rest my case. If anyone still feels that my thinking is incorrect, please let me know why you feel as you do. Maybe I can learn something. Thanks, much.
Report Post »LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 1:40amCut out the weak and the sick. I DO know what I would do in an emergency, and I DO know what others would do. You cite the minority while we cite the majority. Very left thinking indeed.
Report Post »Chett
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 2:51amWell I am blind, want to bar me from flying? I have flown all over the world …alone. I bet you in all that smoke and stuff I can find the exit before you do. Fact is if this sort of thing is allowed to stand its the top of the slippery slope and I will be beanned next, then you won’t get my help finding those exits. You never know exactly what might happen, this guy, or anyone else might just have the skill you need.
Report Post »Jean Lafitte
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 5:15amWe all start in life as disabled. We are born without the ability to care for ourselves. It takes a choice of someone else to protect, nuture and assist us in life until we are able to navigate on our own. I have a son who you would consider disabled. He is blind and has brain damage. He is not my biological child, instead we adopted him. My wife and I chose to give him, what his mother could not find it within herself to do, a chance to be more than what the world can see for him.
Report Post »George Washington, I do not know you, but I would request that you look to the character of the man who’s name you use. I believe he would answer your comments with a quote from the Bible:
[While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. Then one said to Him, "Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You."
But He answered and said to the one who told Him, "Who is My mother and who are My brothers?" And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, "Here are My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother."] Matthew 12: 46-50
We all need to realize that how we treat one another should have nothing to do with who we are as humans, but with who we are as children of the Creator of the Universe. When we get that straight in our heads, the arguments herein (and many others) become moot.
untameable-kate
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 10:07amI don’t think any of us know what we would do in an emergency as frightening and disorienting as an airplane crash. I can speculate though and if I were in a crash with my child I would not give a crap about anyoune but my child. Call that selfish if you need to, and I would like to get up on my high horse and say I would be a hero and try to save all the disabled people first but that wouldn’t be the truth.
Report Post »dukestreet
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:57pmI know what I would do I’ve done it before in other emergencies. Most people out there who don’t know that they are able to act until the situation happens. I’d do whatever was necessary. I’ve never left it to someone else,even if I had to get others to help me. Once he’s at the shoot you push him down and he follows instructions like everyone else. If I have to follow him and help him at the other end I’d do that too. I’ve never even thought about it I just go on auto-pilot regardless of the risk. I just can’t sit there and do nothing,not part of my nature. If I die because of it at least I know I stood up for something or someone.
Report Post »Pnxgld
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 1:07amThey let young kids fly that wouldn’t know how to deal with an emergency as long as you pay them extra charge. Did they even offer this option to the man so that he could conduct buisness? The airline rules seam to be written by a lifelong left wing nut, oops “public servant”.
Report Post »ZaphodsPlanet
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 1:07amHey…. at 36,000 ft, if you open the door, anyone not properly belted into their seat is easily deplaned from said airplane. So maybe the new policy should be, doors will be temporarily opened before plane crashes to allow those unable to deplane to deplane before the plane crashes. Subsequently, if you are unable to deplane w/o the help of another individual, a seatbelt will not be made available to you unless said helper is present.
Report Post »LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 1:23amlol! I needed that : )
Report Post »DMD
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:47amThe thrill, power and adrinilin rush that agent mgr. must have felt kicking a disabled man off a flight.
Report Post »I wonder if he got to kick the wheel chair when he was going up the jet way?
You the MAN gate slug you the MAN!!!!
NOT YOU FING LOSER!!!
hopefully his lawsuit grounds this airline for good
markdido
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:37am“George Washington
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:22am by George Washington
How would you feel if you were on the same flight as Johnnie when in an emergency situation he is blocking the aisle, unable to move and, you could not move him so that you could get to an emergency exit?”
What an exquisite display of “liberal-think”
See, the ‘right” thing to do would be to help him to an exit. Not “move him” so we could get to one.
Report Post »LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:48amI concur!
Report Post »George Washington
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:52amOnce at an emegency exit, just how do you propose to have him exit the plane without jeopardising the lives of the other passengers and crew? In a true emergency, seconds count.
Report Post »LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:59amJust how complicated do you think it is to get off an airplane? Once you get to the exit?? YOU GET OFF! Life-vest, slide, there ya go. It’s a human being not 2 ton boulder.
Report Post »George Washington
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 1:03amTo Ludwika Bronislawa. Disabled individuals are perfectly able to drive cars which are equipped with adaptive driving controls. IE: hand and/or foot controls. For steering, there are Saganaw power steering units and steering wheel spinner knobs. There are also oversized rear and sideview mirrors. In an emergency, he would not throw himself into the aisle. However, he could get knocked there and may not be able to move while an able bodied individual migh be able to..
Report Post »LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 1:20amI’m sorry, I’ve dumbed down my argument as much as I can. The point is obviously over your head. Pun intended.
Report Post »PeachyinGA
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 9:11amI suspect that Mr. Tuitel’s disability was only his legs. Usually that means his upper body gained unusual strength. I doubt that he was just a lump with no muscle! And I doubt that the manager/agent did little more than hold the wheelchair while the passenger used his own arms to swing himself into his seat. He seemed to be a thinking human being and I also seriously doubt his motivation speeches were on how to get everyone around you to do your physical work for you!
Report Post »GeeWhiz
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 10:26amWhile the crew is screaming and jumping off the plane, those with a conscience would drag that guy to safety. I say this as a currently non-athletic, middle-aged female, who did her time as an RN in a hospital.
Damn right, I would help. Matter of fact, I would be yelling at anyone within earshot to give me a hand, because that is what people do in an emergency. See 9/11 or other disasters for reference.
People with conscience just ACT, they don’t intellectualize.
Report Post »M31Sailor
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:21pmRemember what Chris“Pee running down his leg” Matthews said about Tea Party, Coservatives, Repub, people only helping themselves.in an emergency. While The Progressives scurried off the plane, I’m sure most able Conservative people would be assisting anyone with a problem.
Report Post »George Washington
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:17amThe airline was correct. Their policy is for everyone’s safety. Even though Mr. Tuitel flew over 500,000 miles without incident, there is always the first time. In an emergency situation, his life and possibly the lives of other passengers and the crew could be jeopardized by a severely disabled person who is unable to move.
LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:30amIf that is the case, why do we allow the disabled to drive cars? I seriously doubt he would be a threat to the safety of others. What would you do if someone hit there head and got knocked out from turbulance? If there is an emergency is he going to throw himself in the aisle and block the whole plane from the exits? What about children traveling alone? Where do we draw the line here? Anybody could become disabled in the event of an emergency. The policy needs to be changed.
Report Post »tolduso
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:38amWhat about people that are obese? Are the airlines going to check your BMI while they time you going through an emergency exit before being able to board a plane?
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 8:11amI can see, understand both sides of this issue – but I think if I only have seconds to get out I won’t want the aisle blocked by a wheelchair. But then again – there should be some fellow passengers who would be willing to help – UGH – I hate questions where there is no right or wrong answer, no black or white and a lot of gray!! http://wp.me/pYLB7-g6
Report Post »Momma M
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 8:21amI tend to agree with WALKWITHME1966 – It’s a difficult call to make, but if I had to make the choice for myself and my loved ones, I’d rather not have an unassisted-handicapped man in a wheelchair between us and the exit.
Perhaps airlines should have a lower-cost “assistant” fare availiable for those truly in need of such additional assistance.
Report Post »pavnvet
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 11:06amI agree to an extent that the airline was correct. I have flown over a million miles and can attest that there were many that shouldn’t have flown if that rule was uniformly enforced. For example, little old ladies or men who can barely walk with a cane, people under the obvious influence of alcohol and young (under 12) children flying unattended. There have been times where I insisted that individuals sitting in exit row seats be moved as they were either prohibited (under 15 years of age) or physically unable to handle the responsibilities.
However, being disabled myself, the airline should have made reasonable efforts to accommodate him by asking another passenger if they would assist him in case of an emergency. Furthermore, the gate personnel should have caught this before he was boarded. (I assume by the phrase, “he was kicked off” meant he was already boarded).
And finally, US Scareways has probably on average the rudest, dumbest employees of any carrier I have flown. This is especially true if you have to go through Philly.
Report Post »jmb847
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:11pmThere decision may have been correct, it may have been legal but is it really the right thing to do. We all need some sort of help at some time.
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:16amAren’t we all too disabled to fly?
Report Post »George Washington
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:24amI tried flapping my arms for over an hour before it became clear to me that I was not going anywhere. So, I must admit that you are correct.
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:30amOK, so it would be “unable”. :P
I can see the reason for the “not being able to help someone else” part, but if he can’t help himself, who does that hurt in most circumstances? Only him. If he has a window seat, he won’t be blocking anyone in an emergency.
It’s really inconvenient for a guy who is already very inconvenienced. Seats, luggage, and all sorts of other objects are “in the way” and can’t help anyone either. I don’t see the point of this policy.
Report Post »LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:46amAnd let’s not even get started on the rights of the obese! What is the difference? I have come to the conclusion that most airlines’ rules are enforced arbitrarily.
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 1:32am@GEORGE WASHINGTON
(It is an honor to speak to you, sir)
Are you cupping your hands?
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 5:37amI think I levitated a little once but, I never flew either.
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:09amTerrorists are welcome but not this dangerous american .
Report Post »Thanks US Airways for watching over our security , I feel that I’m in good hands .
George Washington
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:22amHow would you feel if you were on the same flight as Johnnie when in an emergency situation he is blocking the aisle, unable to move and, you could not move him so that you could get to an emergency exit?
Report Post »LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:44amI’m pretty sure one could figure a way around him. It’s an airplane not a closet. I also feel there would be some people on that plane that could and would help ANYone who is ‘disabled’ in an emergency.
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:45amif he‘s blocking the aisle in an emergency case I’m sure someone will help me to assist him or to move him aside if he’s refusing to do so , we’ll figure out something like going around him or jumping on the seats .
Report Post »M31Sailor
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:47amRemember the old joke,
Report Post »I don’t have to outrun the bear
I just have to out run you
Rev. WC
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 5:27amSince most airline crashes result in the death of all, me thinks this is a mute point..
Report Post »Madisonian
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 6:25amI fly a good deal of the time. I’ve flown on planes with people too drunk to stand, flown with folks that have walkers and canes, people that need to be wheeled on and off the plane. That doesn’t even account for families that fly with small children, or those that try to stuff oversized bags under the seat or in the overhead because of the newer policies on charging for bags. I can honestly say, I’ve never seen anything as ridiculous as what happened to this man.
Oh, and so you know, I always sit in the exit row, at the window, on regional jets or other smaller planes. So I would be one of the people in the unlikely event of a crash trying to help people safely get off the plane, and the last thing I’m worried about is if someone is disabled. Final thought, are we that morally bankrupt as a society? I bet US Airways kept his money, they pretty much always keep mine.
Report Post »LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:09amWait a minute, if one has to be ‘abled’ enough to help others, wouldn‘t that imply that SOMEbody on that plane might have to help one who can’t help themself??? Paradox, or just another fine example of the slow demise of common sense?!
Report Post »snowleopard3200
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 4:18amShows the slow demise of common sense.
Report Post »bookhound63
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 6:56amExactly! They even allow children to fly alone. They take special precautions and assign a flight attendant to the child to make sure they are picked up by the right person. Do they think a child can assist someone on the flight? This is ridiculous.
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 9:40amAre they saying every man for himself? Wow, that’s cold.
I was wondering what would happen if one was perfectly healthy and was seriously injured in the landing. Since you aren’t able to make it out alone, would they leave you behind?
I assume there would be those who were selfish enough to think only of themselves, and others who would help someone who needed it on every flight – I hope.
Report Post »JGP
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 10:03amDittos Taquoshi, exactly what I was thinking.
So now, if I‘m in a situation where there’s injuries on a landing and you’ve got to get out, I’m I going to get in trouble with U.S. Airways for violating their every man for themselves policy if I were to help someone off?
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 9:41pmJGP,
I was thinking that it would be extremely ironic if a disabled passenger had an “able bodied” assistant on the flight with them and it was the assistant that was injured in an emergency landing.
Oh, yeah, note to U.S. Air – if I’m ever flying with one of my friends who happen to be disabled, not to worry. After an emergency landing, I’m bringing them with me, if I’m able.
Report Post »WestOfThePecos
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:08amI see a new business opportunity here. ADA Assistant.
Report Post »Rev. WC
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 5:22amSpoken by a true Capitalist!
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 5:47amIf the lawyers and Congress have anything to do with it, this will escalate into a requirement for an ADA assistant and a lawyer to be on every flight. After all, our goal is to make America “stupid proof” isn’t it?
Report Post »PlaneRick
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:08amIt is sad that such an incident has happened and probably happens frequently. I think it illustrates the vast misunderstanding among people in the complexities of the disabled or handicap. From the video, Mr.Tuitel, seems to have reasonable capabilities and a clear ability to communicate. But it still seems reasonable for the airline’s personnel to not have the same faith in others that Mr. Tuitel.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 9:52amThe problem is that if something happened and this man got hurt or God forbid killed because he couldn’t get off the plane or he got trampled by others trying to get off (we have all seen or heard of this happening) somebody would sue the pants off the airline. I think the airline is just trying to protect itself from the sue happy crowd. That said, there should be a waiver maybe incase he did get hurt so he could choose for himself if he wants to fly or not. I don’t think this has anything to do with left or right, just safety and CYA for the airlines.
Report Post »M31Sailor
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 10:46amThank God they repealed Don’t Ask, Don’T Tell, If the airline had been able to question him more thoroughly ,they could have weeded him out as a flight risk. Now they can screen passengers for being extremely stupid, abnormally slow, embarassingly weak, unbearably smelly, exceedinly short
Report Post »annoyingly pious, ETC. Might even be a way to get another airline fees, and a new government surcharge,
untameable-kate
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 11:07amSailor, I hope they weed out the unbearably smelly, those people are just being a-holes. Why would you dump a whole bottle of perfume on yourself and go sit in close quarters with other people (I happen to be alergic to perfume). A person knows if he smells bad, take a shower hippie!
Report Post »M31Sailor
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 11:39amKate,
I just realized that even though I am a fully limbed human being , I can’t fly either
Report Post »klstj
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:49pmHe seems as capable or more capable than someone who weighs four hundred pounds, but then again, they couldn’t charge him for an extra seat, could they. I don’t see anything reasonable about this at all. Especially since the person who seated him is the one who kicked him off.
Report Post »mandograss
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 1:18pmPeople are a lot smarter than government say they are. They actually know what to eat,use and keep a gun, speak and vote. if you don’t believe that, wait till November we (USA) will show you better than we can tell you :n)
Report Post »mandograss
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 1:20pmAdd your comments
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:01amUSAirways is unfit to fly.
Report Post »Robert W
Posted on October 16, 2010 at 11:58pmThey let Biden fly dont they? Maybe mentally disabled dont count.
Report Post »M31Sailor
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:44amI thought it was Kieth Oberdork
Report Post »Then i understood why they banned him
DaytonConserve
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 1:36amStatistics show that you have just 90 seconds to exit a crashed plane before being overcome by smoke or fire. Climb over the seats to the nearest exit and start pulling people out.
Report Post »TNT1
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 5:16amWhy did’nt a passenger on the flight help him out ???You ever see the commercial where the young guy gives the older woman his seat.Just a shame that the division continues.
Report Post »Rev. WC
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 5:25amLiberalism at its finest…they tell you what to eat…what to drink…and now how to fly…
Report Post »kristoporski
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 8:47amYeah, Rev. WC and everything they tell you is “for your own good” since you’re too stupid to figure it out on your own… dontcha think it has occurred to this guy that his odds aren’t good if the plane goes down? so I guess the libs will force “safety” on him, for his own good of course, sorry sir no airplanes for you!
Report Post »uneedmorekoolaid
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 11:32amu know in a crash he would end up being the first one out! carrying two old ladies on his shoulders, like a typical great american.
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 11:41amYou’d think he was the pilot or something. Based on the logic of getting in the way or not able to help in his own evacuation, will my small children be the next to not be able to fly. What about kids flying alone? Don’t they require a stew … a flight attendant’s assistance? This is ridiculous. Breakout the ADA lawyers.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 12:47pmI thought it might be Obama and he couldn’t get on without the help of his teleprompter. Seriously, I hope they are able to get this policy worked out for all concerned.
Report Post »mandograss
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 1:10pmBiden is concidered a terrorist because millions of people know for a fact he has and will effectly use the “F” bomb.
Report Post »ARIZONA VETERAN
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 1:32pmahahhaah, you nailed it
Report Post »johngaltrules
Posted on October 17, 2010 at 9:33pmPlease, people, remember that we are too good to make so many negative comments about others. We don’t improve the world by making fun of Biden or tearing others down. Please, pray for the fools that exist and hold up those with good morals!
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