MSNBC Host Refuses to Read Own ‘Facts’ & Name ‘Black Separatists’ as Hate Group
- Posted on March 8, 2011 at 7:31am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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The video is almost too incredible to believe it actually exists. It does.
During a segment on his show “MSNBC Live” Monday, host Cenk Uygur decided to go on a tirade against New York Congressman Peter King for his hearings on radical Islam. During the segment, Uygur wanted to “introduce some real facts here,” and pulled up a chart showing the top hate groups in the country. Before reading it told his audience they were all “on the extreme right.” He quickly listed the top two groups, but when he got to the third one, his jaw audibly hit the floor. I’ll let Mediaite’s Frances Martel take over from here:
“Topping the list,” he began, “[are] the Ku Klux Klan with 221 groups. They are followed with Neo-Nazi groups with 170 groups, and”– at this point Uygur stops for a beat, before ending the list with “that doesn’t make any sense.” What doesn’t make any sense? That the third largest hate group contingent in America are black separatist groups. Not exactly the first type of political group conjured up by the phrase “right-wing,” unless Uygur was willing to argue that the social conservatism often found in black separatist groups somehow made them right-wing or some other similarly stretched-out argument. Of course, the socially conservative black separatist groups on the SPLC’s list mostly appear to be chapters of the Nation of Islam, and slamming them would not exactly strengthen Uygur’s argument that focusing on Islamic groups is a waste. [Emphasis added]
Yes, you read that right, but let it sink in for a second. Uygur tried to claim that all the rising hate groups were on the right, and when presented with facts from his own chart that said otherwise, refused to read those facts. And the kicker, as Martel points out, is that that the “black separatist groups” are mainly comprised of Nation of Islam chapters. Wow. And yet Uygur still thinks King’s hearings are a “waste of time.”
You can watch the mind-blowing segment below:
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Comments (208)
Rickfromillinois
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:35amSomeone is in a lot of trouble for putting that list up on the screen for everyone to see. It shows just how fair and unbiased this network is. See something in writing that you disagree with even though it is from an organization that you are using as the authority for a point you are trying to make and the answer is to totally ignore that one fact. Not only do they try to mislead us but they do a lousy job while trying to do it. I guess they think they don’t have to be careful, the sheep will follow no matter what they say.
Report Post »en2deep
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:33amThe left is always willing to go to bat for the enemies of America. If the tea party was responsible for one act of violence these same people would demand that everybody in the tea party be thrown into Guantanamo, waterboarded and executed.
Report Post »MacGirl
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:31amIN the beginning, he took a clip of a comment from King…. something like, “there are too many mosques in this country…” Well I‘d like to see the rest of that quote because taking such a short part of it can imply something but doesn’t tell the whole truth.
Report Post »I mean, what if he said something like, “there are too many mosques in this country that aren’t speaking up for the majority of muslims, against the radical extremists”
Let’s find THAT out.
teachermitch32
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 9:39amThose were my thoughts exactly. Taking a quote from King out of context. I’ve been reading the rest of the comments and searching youtube since I heard that, but can find nothing as yet. Hopefully some inovative Blazer will come on here with some success and post a link of the whole quote.
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:30amWow, that’s funny! New face, same old same old, and still with the suavity of a five year old.
Silversmith
Report Post »matt708
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:26amanother ducebag who doesn’t do his homework but who just reads from a teleprompter, oh like his leader BO
Report Post »Tomr
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:22amAnybody with a name like Cenk Uygur can’t be too bright. He fits in quite nicely at MessNBC.
Report Post »5 Aces
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:21amOnly Muslim coperation in 48 of 120? and that means success? Who are Black Separtists anyway, Oh Black people who want to separte from the nation. Now why doesnt that make sense to him and why couldn’t he say it?
Report Post »peezee
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:20amThe weird little guy with glasses and curly hair is comic book evil looking.
Report Post »redneckgenius
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:19amthe truth has no agenda.
Report Post »ares338
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:16amThis is not surprising in the least. What is surprising is they even let it get put up in writing. They just don’t care about the truth.
Report Post »upstateny
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:15amWhen did people start listening to Sean Penn’s little bearded brother? The dirt bag even looks like a deranged little Communist.
Report Post »jorgeshrugged
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 9:25amSorry, but Michael Penn is Sean Penn’s little brother and is a very talented Musician. Not at all like this Rick Sanchez wannabe.
Report Post »upstateny
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:26amjorgeshrugged, My bad, I was responding to a different post and I put it into the wrong place.
Report Post »nacilbuper
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:15amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acYDNlMYAaI&feature=related
Report Post »parra5143
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:15amWhat is this guys problem with America? He sarcastically says “congratulations America” Like we are all a bunch of hatemongers. Go to Cuba or Venezuela, but you wont.
Report Post »Lucy Larue
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 5:49pmPARRA5143,
Report Post »Amazing Non?!
Look at him! Look at him! He’s a beefy ,well fed guy.
Cenk Uyger! UGH! UGH! UGH!
A leech sucking the lifeblood of America!
Does he have a MORAL CODE?! HILARIOUS!
Young Turks?! Yeah ,whatever Cenk.
hauschild
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:14amYou’ve gotta feel for liberals. This is exactly like Letterman telling Rand Paul that “something doesn’t seem right” about America’s deficit problems.
What the f@#! has happened rational minds in this country??? My goodness, liberals are really, really, really ignorant.
Report Post »Fina Biscotti
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:11am——————————————————————————–
Obama Asks Terrorism Help — from Muslim Brotherhood Spinoff
By Ben Johnson, FloydReports.com
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As more sober minds consider ways to keep the Middle East from falling into the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood, Barack Obama is “fighting terrorism” by reaching out to the leader of one of the Brotherhood’s American creations. In the process, a White House official revealed that radical Muslims frequently advise the White House office headed by the president’s top adviser and alter ego, Valerie Jarrett.
Preemptive Groveling
Flush with instances of American Muslims supporting Islamic jihad, Rep. Peter King is set to launch his investigation into the radicalization of U.S. mosques, imams, and the faithful they serve later this week. Barack Obama, ever keen to reach out to the Muslim community, decided to get ahead of this by sending a deputy to plead with the extremists for cooperation. On Sunday, Deputy National Security Advisor Denis McDonough spoke to a Sterling, Virginia, mosque some believe is a model of moderate Islam: the All Dulles Area Muslim Society (ADAMS), led by imam Mohamed Magid. Indeed, McDonough began by thanking Magid by name.
Although the Sudanese-born imam presents himself as an ecumenical, anti-terrorism leader active in “interfaith” outreach, his current associations — and those of others at his mosque — present a different picture….
Report Post »quarter horseman
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:10amchoke, choke, Got that! you my sir are a dum ars
Report Post »I SPY
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:06amLOL! Welcome to the news, Uygur. That‘s the job you chose and the job you’re about to get canned from.
Report Post »suttonea76
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:06amYou mean MSNBC isn’t editing their “live” shows anymore? I just purchased the MSNBC top and it spins more than any top I have every had. Olbermann Jr. will be out of a job in less than 6 months. Comcast will actually fire people who have abysmal ratings.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:34amYou gotta call it!
Report Post »givemeavent
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 7:59amcan someone please give me back the 1:30 seconds I wasted on that……jeeeez
Report Post »txbigfoot
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 7:58amIt is amazing that they will always blindly follow their agenda despite the truth from their own research.
Report Post »It goes to show they clearly have an agenda and its not reporting the news. They should be removed from the airwaves.
RocktonWhy
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 7:58amWell, if the story doesn’t fit, simply change the facts!
Alot like the “science” of evolution, today’s mainstream press has a conclusion in mind BEFORE any investigation is done. Bending the facts to fit “the story” is all too commomplace. This is what occurs when the elitists cannot trust the proletariat to arrive at their forgone conclusions.
I prefer the facts to be recvealed, without bias, and allow for logical conclusions to be arrived at. Oh, but that is silly, though, because liberalism, in all its maifold forms, is neither formulated nor sustained through logic. On the contrary, it is an ideology based on emotion. … You feelin me??
Report Post »BIGJAYINPA
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 7:52amOops, Once again those darn pesky facts ruined a promising rant against the Right. How are the mental pygmies of the left supposed to denigrate the dangerous right wingers if their stupid staffs continue to include FACTS in their cue cards?? What’s next?? Facts on the Barry O teleprompter???
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 7:49amThat’s too funny! What a white piece of trailer trash!
Report Post »Just_Bubba
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:19amgeez…that is an insult to trailer trash everywhere.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:38amI believe this guy is actually Turkish.
Report Post »KenInIL
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:47amCenk is just another pretty face – that can’t even read the stuff someone wrote for him. He wouldn’t have these moments if he wrote his own stuff. I am waiting for the Rick Sanchez moment – when he says “ad lib a tease here”. His Frances Fox Piven interview was funnier when she started to rhetorically ask why the unemployed were not rioting in the streets as he is trying to paint her as an innocent little old lady.
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 7:40amTruth is not a value of the Left. It never has been. We are living in perilous times when we can’t turn to the news media for facts. The American people are truly on their own.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:00amWhat is also interesting is that the “right” denounce those first groups .. but the left is covering for the number 1 far left group .. . distrurbing to say the least.
Report Post »Jill
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:23amWhy is NeoNazi’s considered right wing? Everything I have read about Nazi’s puts them right into the leftists columng….I found this comment on daily pundit that sums it up better than I can…by JCoke
http://dailypundit.com/?p=2149 …
I’ve been thinking about this a lot. See, Nazi’s have been heaped on the right side of the political spectrum, as a sort of counter-weight to communism. Thing is, that really doesn’t stand up to a serious analysis. The idea that the Nazi’s were right wing seems to boil down to the idea that racism (and nationalism) is a unique and defining trait of the right. But this is transparently false; Mecha, the Hispanic-power group, is avowedly leftist, racist,and nationalist. The Black Panthers and other black supremacists were leftist. There are any number of examples of groups and people on the left who are racist. In any case, I don’t accept that premise.
Without the racist=right wing idea to pin the Nazis, it becomes clear that the fascist movement is actually a faction of the left. Mussolini, the father of fascism, was a socialist. He split from the socialist to join a more extreme left-wing group which became the Fascist party. The word Nazi actually stands for, get this, the National Socialist German Workers Party. That’s two leftist red flags in one name. Their economic policy wasn’t anything CATO would approve of. One of their policy initiatives was to create a fund that would provide cars to everyone who decided to contribute. (The name of the car? The People’s Car, or, in German, Volkswagen. It was actually the VW Beetle. All those hippies were driving Hitlermobiles. Nice.) Basically, from where I’m sitting, fascism was a socialist sub-group that figured out how to tap into nationalism and racism. In the political climate of Europe (where the conservatives are just socialists who go to church) fascism had a broad appeal. Perhaps on the European left-right continuum, the placement of the Nazi’s on the right would then be appropriate. But I’m not really seeing how they’d fit on the right in America’s political continuum. They weren’t really hard-core Christian (more of a neo-pagan Christianity-when-in-public bunch), they certainly weren’t into the free market, and racism isn’t necessarily a right wing trait.
I, of course, am biased. I would love to be able to put Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot in the same (diametrically opposed to me) political category. It seems to me that the argument has a fair amount of weight. I mean, what American right-winger would form or join a party called the National Socialist German Worker’s Party?
Report Post »Jill
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 9:12amAlso, the KKK was the military wing of the Democratic Party. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1924_Democratic_National_Convention So it would seem to me that more groups are Leftists than right wing groups.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:15amJill liberals never let facts get in the way of their beliefs.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 12:09pmNice post Jill,I’ve argued the very same points on other blogs. The fact that far right is anti-government intrusion(libertarian or even anarchy) and nazis were about total government control(socialism).
Report Post »The far right is sink or swim and the left is entitlement society.
Jill
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:40pmWell, I guess if growing up was easy, maybe more liberals would do it…(shrug)
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 7:35amNever let the facts get in the way of MSNBC’s agenda. Another propagandist for the left that needs to be fired for not being able to read the facts.
Report Post »REDPILLREADY
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 7:55am“…and that doesn’t make any sense….” Too precious. Is Comcast going to keep rolling with these idiots?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 7:56amWhat surprises me is that someone didn’t “dummy” the list before it went on the air .. they must be slipping.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 7:58amApparently, the ******* DO think there are too many churches, at the rate they are burning them down, and killing Christians worldwide.
Report Post »48 out of 120 ain’t much of an average. If the Muslim community really wanted to help, it would be much higher. Grateful for the ones who have come forth, tho.
The Southern Poverty Law Center is a laugh! They and the ACLU hate anything Christian.
This MSNBC host is even worse that Olbermann.
dwh320
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 7:59amVery well said. It has always been their MOA of the Progressive Socialist Democrats to never let truth and facts get in the way of their goals of a socialist America.
Report Post »Lesterp
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:04amCatb, They are to dumb to “dummy” it up.
Report Post »righttobeararms
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:07amConsider who this guy really is. They found him on youtube, please!! He is an idiot but he is the only troll that would consider working for them. You are right, the facts just showed the agenda of the left. I support the hearings 100%
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:08amcommies will lie, lie and lie again. much like taqiyya in islam they lie to advance their cause and any lie is acceptable. words are not going to shut these dangerous people up.
Report Post »upstateny
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:12amWasn’t Mohammad also called the great deceiver? Why wouldn’t they keep putting these factually impotent people up. They are so invested in this great lie they are trying to pull over on us we will NEVER hear the truth from these people. You need to start looking at these people for what they are little children in the checkout line throwing a fit when mommy will not let them get the new flavor of gum. I have used this technique for years and I haven’t found a better tactic, they crumble every time. They never expect their ways to be used against them, and were never taught how to counter their Alinskisms. I have been using their tactics on the people from Woodstock, New Paltz, Bard College etc. for years and it works, I do it sometimes just to watch them squirm it’s downright comical. They are inherently cowards so they will only run away when they realize you do not back down and that you work from a position of truth and un-spun facts.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:14amSTUCK_IN_CA, I consider myself “right” but don’t belong to either the KKK or the Neo-Nazi group. How do they come up with those two groups being “right” – just because they are primarily white? (poet and didn’t know it)
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:16amCenk is also wrong on the two his jaw DIDn’t hit the floor for and that “made sense” to him.
Report Post »KKK = largely Democrat org
Neo-Nazis = wannabe socialists
The left likes to paint these guys as extreme righties, because they talk about “preserving” American culture and gun rights, but closer looks at their agendas and policy proposals give you nothing like what true Conservatives or principled Libertarians want for the country.
Obama Bin Lying
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:16amDid anyone really expect MSNBC to read something against their Agenda? Or state actual facts for that matter.
Just another sorry example of Liberal Bias not wanting the whole truth exposed.
Report Post »not funny
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:17amHe could not even read the list because it did not fit his argument? How pathetic.
Report Post »Dstarr55
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:24amGrandma, you are right – MSNBC has never allowed facts to stop their far left agenda. The fact is the Southern Poverty Law Center is a left leaning group which is why Cenk thought the list would fall into his way of thinking – too bad he doesn’t actually read his facts before putting them on the air. I would point out that the list is ‘hate’ groups – when was the last time the KKK committed a terroristic act? They may spew vile but they aren’t strapping bombs to their chests or trying to blow up New York. Since King is looking at a rise in home grown terrorism then the obvious, although not PC, choice is looking at the Muslim community. When you have CAIR advocating for Muslims not to talk to the FBI then it begs the questions that King is raising.
Report Post »Rice Water
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:28amApparently, I should be outraged over something? Sorry, but my mind has yet to be blown. What this story needs is the word “Socialist”. Typed in all caps.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:36amI wonder if the TEA Party is on that list of hate groups?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:49amEvery Klan member I’ve ever met has been a Dixiecrat. Neo-nazis want fascism, aka national socialism. Socialism is solely a political ideology of the Left.
Strange how when you look at things deeper and don’t accept talking heads at face value, how everything is almost completly opposite of what they claim.
Report Post »804Emo
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 8:54amI pride myself in trying to watch all news cylces to dissect the information that is presented by both point of views. Not with this GUY!!! His show on MSNBC looks like it is just him and the camera guy. It’s like MSNBC executives said “Who cares who does the commentating, there is no one watching.” Turn to his show today, and you will see what I mean…..this guy is horrible, my guess is that a friend of a friend lost a bet, and this was the payoff….”I don’t have the money to pay you, is there anything else I can offer you?“ ”Well, I do have a nephew that is a moron who needs a job.” What can he do? “Well,….let me think….well…..He Can READ!!” I think I have the perfect place for him………and WHALLLA another incompetent MSNBC commenter is made. I mean really, I would follow him on Twitter but I am scared he would know that I was following him!!!!!
Report Post »Ironmaan
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 9:08amIgnore EVERYTHING the left says. It’s ALL a lie.
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smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 9:27amHow many buildings have had Jets rammed into them by the KKK,or Neo Nazi. How many of acts of terrorism have been attempted by Neo Nazi and the KKK 30 years.H ow many planes havd been highjacked by the KKK or the Neo Nazis.And this idiot might want to fact check things like the fact that the TIME SQUARE BOMBER actually carried out his attack but his bomb didn’t go off. So to say Islamist group helped stop the attack is a lie. The attack was carried out his device was defective and he was caught on tape by cameras all around time square.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 9:31amThe screen showed
Hate Groups in U.S.
National Numbers
Ku Klux Klan: 221 Groups
Neo-Nazis: 170 Groups
Black Separatists: 149 Groups
White Nationalists: 136 Groups
Racist Skinheads: 136 Groups
Neo-Confederate: 42 Groups
Source: Southern Poverty Law Center
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 9:57amIt is time to send COMCAST a message…..if this is the type of “programming” that they support, then they can do so without my subscription……
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 9:58amI’m 46 live in the South and have never seen a KKK rally, anyone in a KKK uniform, or anyone passing out KKK literature, the only time I have heard anything about the KKK at all is when studying HISTORY, watching a movie, or the left claiming they still existed.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:04amoh oh oh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha he he he he he……that pause and then the “sep” then the “that doesn’t make any sense”. That is hilarious !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Classic absolutely classic. What a doofus. I think the only thing he exposed was his bias and lack of knowledge. lol that was absolutely great. Thanks for making such a wonderful point there Cenk. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !!!!!!!
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:10amMornin’ Grandma! That commentator isn’t with MSNBC (at least not that I know of, since I don’t watch it! LOL) …he‘s been on the web for quite some time and he’s basically a “water-carrier” for the distribution of hateful Muslim propaganda! Of course, in my opinion, it seems that the Moos-lims are ALWAYS full of hate for one reason or another! I guess I would be too if my head were full of all the “crap” that they are fed! Peter King..you keep going guy…we’ve got your back! Can‘t say that I’ve always agreed with Mr. King, but I’ll give him this one! America needs tougher immigration laws! We stemmed the tide of Muslim immigration for over 4 decades…we need to do it again! Did you know that something like 75% of all Muslims living in the US today are US citizens? However, it is the 25% that are the problem…but…isn’t that the way it has always been down through history? We‘ve learned lately that it doesn’t take a “majority” to bring about a revolution…allowing “radicals” into this country is just plain SUICIDAL and it has to end! AND, since they reproduce at a rate of 9 x 1, how long will it be until we have completely changed the demographics of this great nation? I conclude, NOT VERY LONG!
We’ve seen what the “stealth” communists have been up to for the past 30 years…we are now waging the fight of our lives…won’t be long until the radicals also step out of the shadows and we will have no one but ourselves to blame!
Report Post »Bullcop34
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:15amSwampy. I too have lived in the South, LA, for 40 years and my parents for 77 years and my grandparents , God rest their soles, for an average of 94 years. And that was also time in southern AR as well as TX and NE. NEVER have they attended, met with, advocated for, listened to, attended or otherwise supported the KKK. A total crock of a reporter with usless vile dribble and twisted facts to support and agenda. People are just not buying into this crap anymore.
Report Post »walterskeeney
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 10:37amIf I remember correctly doen’t NAZI stand for National Socialist. Aren’t socialist liberals and on the left so why do we keep saying that the neo nazi groups are right wing when they are obviously socialist?
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:04am“What surprises me is that someone didn’t “dummy” the list before it went on the air .. they must be slipping.”
…or that some staffer wanted to try and show this idiot for what he really is. As much as I dislike Maddow and Olbermann, I believe they review material before they go on the air. Or in Kieth’s case, before he “went” on the air.
Report Post »Skipperdoodle
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:08amWhere is the Klan? There is no such thing. When Lisa Presley married Michael Jackson it proved two things: There is no Klan and Elvis is really dead!
Report Post »Miguelito
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 11:22amDoes not fit his agenda……theTRUTH has NO agenda!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »RJO
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 12:46pmWho? Am I supposed to know this guy? Why? Why should I care what this apparent Marxist thinks. MSNBC? Ohhhh….that’s the cable channel that appeals to “dozens” of Americans who look for the “entertainment” of self-described “journalists.”
Talk about irrelevant…..
Report Post »Templar Knight
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:00pm@righttobeararms
Exactly right on the spot. They found this guy on YOUTUBE and not only that, his channel is called the “Young Turks” let me know where you think his loyalties lie? With the Muslim extremists of course. I bet you a million this guy is definitely not on the side Israel and I bet you another million that I would win that bet.
He couldn’t even get his facts right on youtube like every liberal extremist reporter he took things beyond out of context with Glenn and anyone else who presents facts. Speaking of facts this segment just proves how this idiot operates, he is a liar with an agenda and will bend the truth in order to appease that agenda.
Comcast should fire him along with Matthews and Meadow for delivering falsified information and using MSNBC to not deliver the news but instead try to promote their incentive with baseless reporting.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:01pmKu Klux Klan: 221 Groups
Neo-Nazis: 170 Groups
Black Separatists: 149 Groups
White Nationalists: 136 Groups
Racist Skinheads: 136 Groups
Neo-Confederate: 42 Groups
The premise of this thread is that this list is accurate and that Black Separatists are predominantly Muslim. So why is the US government spending money to investigate the third group instead of the first group or all of them? Why choose Muslims and have the guy in charge be someone who thinks there are “too many Mosques” in this country? Politics?
And Ghost, your idea that Neonazis are left wing is laughable. Fascism is an extreme right wing philosophy, not left wing.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:06pmBecause only one of the groups on the list still exists, and has committed an act of terrorism in 40 years. If you want a list, they should add NAACP, SEIU, ACORN, Black Panthers to the list and then they would have 5 real world terrorist organizations to investigate.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:06pmNation of Islam, Do we worry about this being a race issue or a religious war or both? All of these groups are terrible but only one has an advocate at the head of the DOJ. Government in bed with one of these groups leads to big trouble down the road.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:10pmThe only thing right wing at all about the NAZI is the moron liberals saying they are.
Report Post »hwyphd1
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:19pmNobody would ever know what goes on at that station,if it wasn’t for this site…The Blaze should get all there sponser money..
Report Post »Lost in the Flyover
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:41pmI don’t understand what the Klu Klux Klan, Skinheads, or White Supermacist have to do with the right! Must be that because they are white and they are idiots it makes them right wing conservatives… what trash reporting aimed at discrediting the real conservative movenment that deals with real issues that are anything but race related such as a balanced budget and a constitutionally bound government.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 1:43pmOn top of that, the Klan isn’t even a Right Wing group.
Every Klansman I’ve ever met was a Democrat. Every. Single. One.
Report Post »orkydorky
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 2:31pmI look at this and others stories in the media as smoke screens thrown up to keep people from looking at the real issues at hand, getting cuts to the budget, a limit on spending, and the removal or reversal of the health care con. The real issue at hand is to eliminate the appropriations that were hidden in the health care bill. To assume that the legislators didn’t know about this when they voted for the bill calls for a gullibility of epic proportions. I sincerely hope that Sean, Glenn, and Rush, (our only real voices in the media), don’t fall for the lefts attempted sidetracking of these vital issues. Let’s face facts, the American people were duped out of their children’s money by the socialist politicians and Obama by trickery included in the bill. Our three spokesmen need to be shouting from the roof tops how the Obama administration has snookered our citizens. Don’t address any of the smoke screen issues and pay attention to the slight of hand going on!
Report Post »SUPPLY_SIDE
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 2:32pmAgain, Uygur made himself look stupid. Uh…Go to commercial…Winner Duh…Lean Forward…D’OH!
Report Post »jzs
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 2:33pmI guess you remember Timonthy McViegh. Here’s a list from The Hill:
July 2008: A gunman agitated at how “liberals” are “destroying America” kills two and wounds four at a Unitarian church.
October 2008: Two neo-Nazis are arrested in Tennessee for a plot to murder Barack Obama and dozens of other African-Americans.
December 2008: A father-son team involved in the “patriot” movement try to extort a bank with a homemade bomb; they end up killing two police officers.
January 2009: A white supremacist in Brockton, Mass., rapes a black woman, kills her sister and a homeless man, and is captured while en route to a Jewish community center.
April 2009: A white supremacist and gun nut kills three Pittsburgh cops because he believed conspiracy theories about President Obama taking away his guns. He had been posting Glenn Beck videos on a neo-Nazi website.
May 2009: Another right-wing crazy in Okaloosa County, Fla., also fearing his guns would be confiscated, kills two cops before being shot dead.
June 2009: A Holocaust denier and right-wing tax protester kills a security guard at the Holocaust Museum.
July 2009: A woman takes a break from posting Glenn Beck videos on her MySpace page to case an Air National Guard Base in Long Island. Upon her arrest, authorities find an assault rifle, a shotgun and 500 rounds of ammo in her car.
August 2009: A man in Collier Township, just south of Pittsburgh, walks into a women’s aerobics class and kills three women. His diary states, “Good luck to Obama! He will be successful. The liberal media LOVES him. Amerika has chosen The Black Man. Good!”
February 2010: An anti-government tax protester flies his plane into the IRS building in Austin, Texas, killing himself and one other.
March 2010: Seven militiamen in Michigan and Ohio are arrested for plotting to assassinate local police officers to spark a new civil war. This is also the month that an anti-government extremist walks into the Pentagon and opens fire, wounding two, before being shot dead.
May 2010: A mosque in Jacksonville, Fla., is firebombed.
July 2010: A Glenn Beck fanatic loads his car with weapons and drives to the Bay Area to attack the offices of the Tides Foundation and ACLU. He is wounded in a shootout along with the patrolmen after they intercept him on a routine traffic stop.
September 2010: A Concord, N.C., man who refers to himself as the “Christian counterpart to bin Laden” is arrested and charged with plotting to blow up an abortion clinic.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 2:55pmSorry Grandma…you were right…guess this guy is with MSNBC…I seem to be having one of those days…(didn’t read the title of the article…dah!)….think I’ll go back to sleep or something………………
Report Post »ozz
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 4:19pmROFLMAO liar liar pants on fire!!! You can change the back ground behind the lying turk but it won’t change his lies.
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 4:56pmCenk, it’s called show prep, all the “real” hosts do it. Next time, ask a producer or assistant to actually flip through the graphics and make sure they support the argument you’re trying to make.
Working on TV (even MSNBC) is a lot harder than pumping out blog postings from your parent’s basement…
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 5:19pmRacist piece of
Report Post »Contrarian51
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 6:07pmOne last attempt to make this point. If buttholes could fly, MSNBC would be an airport.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 8, 2011 at 6:19pm@ JZS…………Neo -Nazism consists of post-World War II social or political movements seeking to revive Nazism or some variant thereof.[1][2][3][4] The term neo-Nazism can also refer to the ideology of those movements.[5][6]. Since WWII Nazis were national socialists I seem to be at a loss as to how they are right wingers. They are known in English as the Nazi Party (from the German Nazi, abbreviated from the pronunciation of Nationalsozialist[5]), was a political party in Germany between 1919 and 1945. It was known as the German Workers’ Party (DAP) prior to a change of name in 1920.
The party’s last leader, Adolf Hitler, was appointed Chancellor of Germany by president Paul von Hindenburg in 1933. Hitler rapidly established a totalitarian regime[6][7][8][9] known as the Third Reich.
Nazi ideology stressed the failures of laissez-faire capitalism, communism, economic liberalism, and democracy; supported the “racial purity of the German people” and that of other Northwestern Europeans; and claimed itself as the protector of Germany from Jewish influence and corruption. The Nazis persecuted those they perceived as either race enemies or Lebensunwertes Leben, that is “life unworthy of living”. This included Jews, Slavs, Roma, and so-called “Mischlinge” along with Communists, homosexuals, the mentally and physically disabled, and others. The persecution reached its climax when the party and the German state which it controlled organized the systematic murder of approximately six million Jews and six million other people from the other targeted groups, in what has become known as the Holocaust. Hitler’s desire to build a German empire through expansionist policies led to the outbreak of World War II in Europe.
If you see they may stand for racial purity but they also stand opposed to capitalism and democracy by representation, so that is what “right” wing people are defined by. So I guess I need an explanation as to how GHOST was wrong!!!!!!!!! I think you are confused by the racial purity component of those groups, but unless they are advocating national socialism they cannot be defined in the full sense of the word Neo-Nazis. When they support the swastika they are advocating white supremacy not national socialism so the term ascribed to them is more of a slang than an accurate use of the term, probably due to their presenting of the Nazi symbols. In this regard they are not right or left wing just simply nuts and racist !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So Ghost was completely accurate in what he stated historically and in the full definition of the word …. Sorry GHOST not to speak for you but just to support what you said
Report Post »altmanblaudio
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 1:29amPeople should check out where this guy came from…the young turks on youtube. He sucked then and still sucks. His logic is one sided and it isn’t the smart side. He is a way, way, way leftist. I didn’t know top talent came from YouTube.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 12:03pmyep don’t let the FACTS get in the way..
Report Post »ozz
Posted on March 9, 2011 at 1:57pm@ JZS
I can give one really good reason. Because the top 2 are home grown problems and the Muslim problem is imported. Protect your self from external threats first then worry about the internal.
You could make all three happier with one fell swoop though. Buy them half a third world country with allot of land, give them a nice size bank roll and recognize them as a new country. There all 3 groups happier.
You do not like the constitution? Fine! Then do not let the door hit you in the rump on the way out :D
Report Post »Psonaught
Posted on March 10, 2011 at 12:18amTo jzs, what is laughable is that we’ve allowed this farce to go on so long that we have socialists on left and right? Where are all of us who don’t want socialism in any of its forms? non existent? I feel like I’m existing quite nicely thank you. We allowed this lie to continue because noone ever thought it mattered. The soviet union had died china was moving to a more capitalist way of thinking, to us no sane person could deny communism’s and socialisms failures, we‘d put down the nazi’s long ago we had put down the fascists long ago. Who would have thought people were still working to implement these ideas or that they were so organized and zealotized.
So we ignored a moot left-right argument as unimportant. It is reluctantly apparent that it is important, now, one of the most important arguments we can make. To let all of us know that all of the evils, all of them in two hundred years are traceable to one and only one idealogy. Why that one ideology is considered on both one side and the opposite? Socialists and communists must reassure themselves that the evil is shared across arbitrary bounds. And that they are actually the lesser of these two evils.
They are not the lesser of two evils, they are just the same evils, with multiple names. Like two street gangs the names may be different, the colors, red shirt / brown shirt. But they are the same, their just fighting to see what color of shirt rules the streets. Nothing more. And it comes to us, as it always does, different people but the same job to once again make sure they don’t win, and this time hopefully end it for good. To stop the slow and relentless creeping tyranny of their many ‘ism’s, to finally have peace, real peace one not brokered by banks when the society is sufficiently in indentured servitude. Picture a world without any of their ‘isms socialism, fascism, communism or naziism. Thats a pretty world indeed.
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