Muslim High School Girl Barred from Marching in ROTC Parade Because of Head Scarf
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Demin Zawity was not allowed to march as an ROTC member in her school's homecoming parade because of her Muslim head scarf. (Media credit: WTFV-T)
A Tennessee high school freshman wasn‘t allowed to march in her school’s homecoming parade last month because of her Muslim head scarf and is now trying to change U.S. Army policy as a result.
Demin Zawity, a Junior ROTC member at Ravenwood High School in Brentwood, Tenn., contacted the Council on American-Islamic Relations after she was barred from participating in the homecoming parade because her head scarf wasn’t allowed.
Under U.S. Army policy, full head coverings are prohibited during official uniformed ceremonies.
Zawity said she quit the program, an elective, after her commanding officer told her she would have to remove her head scarf if she wanted to march in the parade.
“I was like, you’ve got to be kidding me. I wanted to just break down crying right there,” Zawity told Nashville’s WTVF-TV. “They‘re telling me I’m not allowed to march in the parade just because of a piece of cloth wrapped around my head. And to me it‘s not like it’s just a piece of cloth, to me, it’s like my symbol.”
Zawity asked if an exception could be made for religious circumstances, and her commanding officer said he would see what he could do, according to Fox News. But both school officials and district lawyers ultimately decided if she was going to participate, she would have to be dressed like every other member, in accordance with U.S. Army policy.
“We as a school system are bound to the regulations of the Army. We cannot conduct the program unless we follow the regulations,” said Jason Golden, chief operating officer and general counsel for the school district.
CAIR is calling on both the school district and Department of Defense to reverse a policy that it says “effectively bars a Muslim student from participating in the class.”
“It’s an unwise policy,” CAIR attorney Gadeir Abbas told Fox News. “It’s acceptable for a Jewish student to wear his yarmulke under his uniform hat. The regulations already reflect that there are religious obligations among members.”
Lt. Col. Matthew Hackathorn, a spokesman for the U.S. Army Cadet Command, said the cases are different because a yarmulke can be covered by military headgear, whereas head scarves cannot.
Perishan Hussein, the teenager’s mother, said her daughter felt as though the school district was “dismissive” of her beliefs, and said her head scarf should not have been a surprise to anyone since she wears it every day.
“It’s the American process,” Hussein said of getting CAIR involved to petition the government. “We make rules, regulations, laws, and later on down the line we find out they may not work, so we make amendments to change those laws.”
Both the family and CAIR said they do not plan to sue over the policy unless they deem it necessary. In addition to a policy change, they want an apology from the school district and for Zawity to be allowed to participate in the program again.
Hackathorn said the commanding officer at the school acted in accordance with policy and defended the uniform requirements, saying they instill “personal responsibility, attention to detail and being part of a team.”
“We’re not discriminatory. She’s invited to come back anytime, but it has to be in accordance with the regulations,” he said.
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Comments (442)
USMCGator
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:37pmBuying in to this kind of crap would be like allowing Japanese students to wear a Kamikaze headband at school right after the attack on Pearl Harbor. I’m with 82DAIRBORNE on this one SCREW CAIR!!!
Report Post »mils
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:49pmjust a piece of cloth?….then just take it off…
Report Post »ROTC has rules and regulations.
We DO NOT need muslims in our military
A muslim by any other name is still a muslim.
If they follow the Koran, they are a threat to us, period.
janiha
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:50pmI agree completely. Turn the tables on her. Ask her why she HAS TO wear that rag on her head.
Report Post »Don’t let her get away with telling you its her religion. It has nothing to do with religion.
jmvsb
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 10:02pmFirst she says it’s just a piece of cloth. Then she says to her it is a symbol. Guess what to others it is a symbol, too. And we don’t want the symbol in the military for the US. Besides, I bet the guys that wear the white hoods could get away with saying its just a piece of cloth and why do people get upset.
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 10:08pmI think if she wants to participate she should do as CAIR said the Jewish do.
Put the DARN rag under her hat.
Problem solved…..
They better not give in on this…. Surely they won’t…… But after all it is CAIR……
Report Post »Grey Eagle
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 10:19pmI am surprised her father even let her participate in ROTC in the first place. However, the scarf has no place with a military uniform. She obviously knew what that uniform was when she signed on.
Report Post »theaveng
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 10:23pmJMVSB
We allow other people to wear symbols in the military. Like Scots wearing kilts. Pastors wearing crosses and collars.
Report Post »eaglenva
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 10:25pmWelcome to the US Military. Serve with honor and obey the oath.
Or get your muuslleeem arse out, and take your crap with you.
III
Report Post »WeDontNeedNoSteeeenkinBadges
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 10:42pm“They‘re telling me I’m not allowed to march in the parade just because of a piece of cloth wrapped around my head.”
If it’s “just a piece of cloth wrapped around my head’, then you’ll have no trouble removing it.
“And to me it‘s not like it’s just a piece of cloth, to me, it’s like my symbol.”
Ah, now the truth comes out. Well, you little jihad girlie, WE DON’T LIKE YOUR MURDEROUS-SUICIDE-GANG SYMBOL in our face.
Next …
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 10:52pmsissykatz
I think if she wants to participate she should do as CAIR said the Jewish do.
Put the DARN rag under her hat.
======================
Sounds as if she needs to put it between her legs.
1947
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 11:00pmJust another way for the MUSLIMS to start more problems in the UNITED STATES. America it time to look ahead at what the MUSLIMS are doing to this country.
Report Post »Hayabusa
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 11:11pmTHEAVENG, you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about. Religious apparel is extremely restricted. Wearing a headscarf would not have been compatible with the uniform should would be wearing for a parade (Class As, Class Bs, or ACUs).
http://www.aele.org/law/2005FPAPR/ar-670-1.pdf
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 11:13pm@theaveng.. Thats just it moron, there are NO girls trying to wear a nuns scarf.. FOOL !!
Report Post »Quagmir
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 11:14pm“And to me it‘s not like it’s just a piece of cloth, to me, it’s like my symbol.”
And to the military the symbol is everyone looking alike and being dress right dress. Get with it or or get out.
Report Post »Seasoldier
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 11:37pmThat’s why they call it a UNIFORM. If you sign up for Army JrROTC, you agree to follow ALL the regulations established by the Army for that program, including those specified for wearing of uniforms. The U. S. Armed Forces establish rules and regulations designed to foster and maintain good order and discipline, because, ultimately, lives depend upon everyone in uniform rendering obedience to orders. If a person cannot comply with the regulations, they need to separate themselves from the program, which is what this young lady apparently did. Semper Fi.
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 11:38pmUSMCGATOR, You are ok with the fact that Americans of Italian, German, and Japanese decent were thrown into internment camps as well, right? Very Roosevelt (socialist) of you.
Report Post »“Buying in to this kind of crap would be like allowing Japanese students to wear a Kamikaze headband at school right after the attack on Pearl Harbor.” It’s not the same thing. We keep doing what you are expressing, and all we’ll be doing is making it easier for the fascist/socialist/theocratic Muslims to recruit these impressionable kids. If we show that our constitution is for the freedom of the individual to practice the faith of their choice, it takes away a major recruitment tactic from the totalitarianists.
Fat Dude
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 11:55pmProbally has c-4 attached to the cloth. piss her offf anymore she may go off.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 12:19amHer right to freely practice her religion is protected. No different then wearing a Sikh head covering, yalmulka or rastafarian head cover. What do the courts say?Must be consistent.If the military welcomes all religions then it must welcome their head coverings. Is kosher or hallal food served in the military?
Report Post »Teaparty-grammy
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 12:24amWell, yeah, it’s like a symbol of a perverted religion that, like, wants to kill everybody who doesn’t join it, so, like, if you want to be an American, TAKE OFF THE FREAKIN’ ****** head covering. Good God–now we have, like ****** VALLEY girls? Now THAT is obscene!
WHY would they even let this person into ROTC, when Muslims have already proven they cannot be trusted in the military, any more than they can be trusted anywhere else, since they are only interested in doing Jihad on Americans and killing as many of us as they can. Examples: rolling a grenade into a tent of sleeping soldiers in Iraq. That was a Muslim who was let into our military. Ft. Hood shooter. THAT was a Muslim who was let into our military. And yeah, I know that is politically incorrect, but “by their fruits ye shall know them”, or in her case, by her HEADSCARF you shall know her. On second thought, by all means let her leave it on–since she is likely neither a loyal American NOR a fit candidate for military service, and it makes her easier to identify as a member of the “religion of peace” so she can’t sneak up on anybody when she decides to “go jihad”.
Report Post »woodyb
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 1:18am@ THEAVENG–
>>>“Japanese students to wear a Kamikaze headband at school”
Not really. Kamikaze were suicide killers. Muslim girls wearing headscarfs are no different than Christian girls wearing nun hats. ”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
WERE SUICIDE KILLERS — As were the Muslim hijackers on 9/11!!!!!!!!!
Today’s Japanese students (I HOPE) are not suicide killers!!!!!!!!!!!
You might try reading that to which you are replying and then THINK before you reply!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 1:55amDrip Drip Drip… CAIR = yet another agenda-driven saboteur trying to erode our Military.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 4:45amtheaveng
Do you ever read your posts before you hit the reply button?
You make absolutely no sense.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 6:49amThey are not prohibiting her from practicing her religion. She can do that without a covering. I knew of a couple Jewish people when I was in the military, and when in uniform they couldn’t wear the little cap (what’s it called, a yamica?). You HAVE to abide by the uniform regulations. What if I decided I was a frisbetarian and wanted to wear a frisbee on my head? (By the way, frisbetarians believe when you die, your soul goes up on top of the house and won’t come down….it’s a joke). A head covering like Muslim women wear, in combat has GOT to be a safety hazard.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 7:30am…CAIR = Constantly Advancing Islamic Regime. Islam is a cult. Islam is the enemy!
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 7:43amThere is a dress code in the military and there are no exceptions. The girl must follow that code or quit the ROTC. If not before you know you’ll have ponytailed soldiers,with facial piercing,and facial tattoos. This is a religious freedom case this is a you wanted to be in the ROTC case.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 7:47am“I was like, you’ve got to be kidding me. I wanted to just break down crying right there,” Zawity told Nashville’s WTVF-TV. “They‘re telling me I’m not allowed to march in the parade just because of a piece of cloth wrapped around my head. And to me it‘s not like it’s just a piece of cloth, to me, it’s like my symbol.”
Report Post »The piece of cloth as she called it is detatchable,no one she couldn’t march they said she had to follow the military dress code. And given her reaction she doesn’t belong in the RESERVE OFFICERS TRAINING CORP.
smithclar3nc3
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 7:57amto theaveng,
Report Post »No is saying she can’t be Islamic and serve, So to draw that comparison is hyperbolic and shear baseless rhetoric. What they are saying is if she choses to be in the ROTC there are dress codes. In the military no one gets special treatment or special attire. When she‘s off duty shehas the freedom to wear whatever she choses but when she’s on duty she as a uniformed dress code.
If she doesn‘t like then quit now because when she reached the real military if that is her goal she’ll follow the code or go to prison and then get dishonorably discharged.
HKS
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:18amIs this not a religious symbol just like a cross? I think we are establishing a clear message with this kind of situation. It violates the separation of church and state. What is so hard about this situation? Either apply the law or throw it out for everyone, simple discrimination here.
Report Post »bboatmanable
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:22amOK, how about this. Let’s take all of our emotion out of the situation and just go with facts. It’s U.S. Army, Air Force, Marine, Navy and Coast Guard REGULATION that full head gear not be worn to official uniformed functions. If you can’t follow the regulations for ANY reason, then you can’t perform your duties. It’s that simple.
Report Post »bboatmanable
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:25am@ROSE-ELLEN…….Apparently you have no clue how the Military works. We sacrifice many of our freedoms (including full freedom of religion) in order that OTHERS may fully have those same freedoms we are not allowed. It is necessary for us to sometimes not be allowed what others take for granted every single day.
Report Post »VerySeniorCitizen
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:46amJANIHA: Then can we ALL assume that wearing a cross has nothing to do with religion? Or can we assume that wearing a Star of David has nothing to do with religion? Or shoud the Amish sects begin to wear the ‘midrif’ t-shirts that other teen agers wear? Does a heart shape have nothing to do with love – or a clenched fist have nothing to do with hate?? Does ONLY a bible symbolize true religion? I think not. After all, there are various folks here in this country who claim to be the TRUE Christians but use hate in all their teachings. Religions Symbolism has been a part of the human psyche since time imimmorial! But I guess you only believe what Glenn tells you to believe?
Report Post »rabblechat
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:53am“I was like, you’ve got to be kidding me. I wanted to just break down crying right there,” Zawity told Nashville’s WTVF-TV. “They‘re telling me I’m not allowed to march in the parade just because of a piece of cloth wrapped around my head. And to me it‘s not like it’s just a piece of cloth, to me, it’s like my symbol.”
No we are not kidding you, if you want to be a member of our military ( or any military for that matter) you will wear what you are told to wear. This is no different than “Johnny” asking to wear his lucky ball cap or the “boggin” his Nanna knitted for him.
Does this girl not know what the word uniform means????
Report Post »JRook
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:09amIf she wants to participate in the organization she needs to accept and abide by the rules. A religious stance is not accepted in many instances to overturn or amend rules and regulations. For example many courts have ruled that parents cannot withhold necessary medical treatment from a child based on religious beliefs. This is not how you assimilate into a culture and society.
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:05amROSE ELLEN – Since you have constantly proven your hatred for the U.S. constitution and individual freedom, your disagreeing with this young lady being left out of a parade because of her religious head covering is not valid. You totalitarianists are the reason why so many of my fellow Americans see a Muslim as the enemy and not who the true enemy is, which is the diseased socialist mind.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:14amI agree. You joined the military. It didn’t join you. Get used to it or get gone.
Report Post »JWINK56
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:22amI’m so ticked off by this CRAP! Its thier goal to make the entire planet muslim and Obummer is helping! He did what no other terrorist has done but are trying to do! Ruin our economy, ruin our values and way of life and to serve him! He, like all Islam hate us, he’s thier inside man and helping them accomplish that goal! I have family I the UK and they cant fly thier flag at school cuz it offends the Muslims! They cant sing God save the Queen at school events or games cuz it offends the Muslims! This infection is making its way here too. I’m glad and proud I lived and served when this Nation was the greatest country on the planet! I feel sad for my kids and grand kids if the Libs and the idiot PC crowd let this S!!T happen!
Report Post »canyousmellmenow
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:57amScrew Cair! Thank GOD for people like USMCGATOR all I can say is her family came to this country and had to say”I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.“ ”Take the piece of CLOTH OFF” or shut the hell up!!!!
Report Post »mortusbard
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 12:30pmHave we forgotten that we are a nation of diverse peoples. I am sitting here reading people ranting. People I get it, but we have to think, think deeper than what your are though. I served Bco 1/504 82nd Airborne 91-95 but surprisingly I became A Muslim and have Five Children 4 Giels 1 Boy who I am raising Pro American Pro Isreal I am not askining for anything but MY 1st Ammendment rights. If my child want the ROTC program than under her rights I would expect some sort of accomadation to be looked at LOOKED AT not made but looked at honestly. We can not beat the threat of Islamic radical terrorism body for body it is impossible. It is a matter of changing the thought process of the masses of Muslims around the world and suppourting them in throwing of the radical ideas of the few. Empowering them in thier countries to not tolerate that which scares them. Yet we can’t stop liberalism here which is just as dangerous. So rein in yoiur obviously blind hatred and fear and allow other the freedoms that you have.
Report Post »MASTER YODA
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 1:01pmNo you stupid ignorant muslim. It’s because you are trying to stick it in the eye of the majority of Americans who happen to be Christian. You are the one who can stick it, all the way back to mecca.
Report Post »jkjk
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 1:22pmGood, recently they’ve been hiding bombs in their turbans and head scarfs. One can’t be to careful these days. If you don’t like the rules, and you don’t want to follow them like the rest of us……. Go back to milking camels in the desert !!!
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 3:18pm@THEAVG
Soldiers wear kilts? Not in the US Military. You must be a Canadian, Scot or Brit.
Report Post »ScreaminEagle
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 3:27pmGI as in soldier, stands for Government Issue, is to be uniform. If the rules say no scarf, then no scarf. A given group of soldiers are to be in uniform that means they all wear exactly the same clothing. What one wears they all wear. Maybe she should get out and do something else if she doesn”t like it. Maybe they can all wear scarves and be in uniform.
Report Post »Bill in Texas
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 3:38pmSorry it’s not part of the uniform. I can’t openly display a cross in uniform. Get with the program! Or get OUT!
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 4:02pmI believe BBOATMANABLE summarized it perfectly. When you choose to join the military, you give up many of the rights and privileges that American citizens enjoy. Your actions are covered by a different set of laws called the Uniform Code of Military Justice. You relinquish your privacy and have adopt a new set of grooming, clothing and behavior standards. The military requires a person to give up some of themselves for the greater good of the unit. Uniformity provides commonality, hygiene and most importantly safety. If everyting has a place, you can find it at zero dark 30 when the sappers are in the wire.
As a personal note, I hated the gas training course. Everyone who goes through it knows what a bad seal feels like. Imagine trying to get a gas mask on with a head scarf.
The only grooming exception I know of is black soldiers who suffer from a skin aliment brought about from shaving, upon medical verification, can grow a well-groomed beard. Understand this knowledge is 40 years old and may no longer be accurate.
Finally, if you don’t want to follow the rules, don’t join. I don’t want to give US combat training to a muslim anyway.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 4:08pm@HKS
I don’t know current military regulations. However, during my time in the Army you could not wear jewerly. A cross or star of david was considered jewerly if worn outside the shirt. You could wear one under your T-shirt as long as it was not visible.
Report Post »pavepaws
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 4:58pmShe is in ROTC, why? There are regulations in the military.Maybe she is the test case. If she can‘t follow the rules in ROTC she’ll be great in the regular Army.
Report Post »John Humble
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 5:22pmMost of the Muslims in the U.S. are true patriots, USMCGATOR. The fact that this young lady has signed up for Junior ROTC is a testament to that fact. We need not denigrate steadfast allies because they bear a superficial resemblance to our enemy. Remember: we are not at war with all of Islam; we are at war with those who have twisted Islam to serve their own purposes.
Report Post »toto
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 5:56pmPlease explain why the army should accommodate you, rather than you accommodating the organization which you joined. The world does not revolve around YOU. YOUR wants and needs should not and do not supercede the wants and needs of others. Please feel free to return to a country where your requirements and allegiances are more welcoming to you.
Report Post »right-wing-waco
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 7:12pmWhat would be next, religious shoes, or maybe a pink rifle. This is the military, you are all alike for a reason. Either obey the rules or get out.
Report Post »So
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:23pmEveryone has the same rules, sweetheart.
That’s the way it is.
Report Post »JMorcan
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 12:45am@ JOHN HUMBLE: Well said. There’s a lot of hatred and stupidity in these forums. Most of the comments look like they were written by eight-year-olds.
Report Post »UPSETVET
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 8:59amThe student said the Muslim headscarf is the symbol of who she is. Well, that’s why military personel wear “uniforms” as the symbol of who they are. The word UNIFORM for proper military dress means exactly that, all are DRESSED uniformally. If a person voluntarially becomes a member of ANY USA military organization certain rules and regulations do apply. What a crybaby !
Some Tennessee young men would probably wear Davy Crockett style coonskin caps if they could, so is there somewhere they could write are call to present their case to change military regulations?
Report Post »Catering to Muslim likes and dislikes has reached it’s limit. I’m sure the girl could wear her scarf if she enlisted in Hezbollah or the Iranian Guard. Maybe she should move to Iran or Syria.
SamIamTwo
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 10:11amSigh: they can’t separate their religion from their every day life. Obama has emboldened them to this and they see the Riots as an opportunity to do what has been done in other nations.
If they can’t abide by our separation laws and rules, then they will war with us. And obviously they can’t, it’s now a spark that can turn into a fire.
The commies, socialist, hippies, tree huggers etc along now with the Muslims have fused into what? Chaos in the streets, riots and a take over…they do not have a snowballs chance in hell to take over this Nation.
All this started in 1988 when Jessy Jackson lost and some sociology professor who apparently did not take an “ethics” (thou shalt not push a society into a theoretical mess-data tells us it does not work-and there is no data to indicate that it will work) class came up with a third party tactic called fusion…it is still an ongoing process that is apparently working.
Report Post »ilovethiscountry
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 11:29amNoone gets to wear their symbol in the military, any military. If they would allow her to wear her head scarf, they would need to allow Christians to wear crosses where they could be seen. The object in the military is to have everyone look alike so they will know that they are part of the team. The team needs to be more important than her headscarf. Not more important than her religion, but more important than her religion’s symbols. Mormans can wear their undergarments because they are covered. Yarmulke can be worn because they can be covered by headgear. If she can stuff her scarf under her hat she can wear it otherwise take it off or don’t be in ROTC.
Report Post »Lewis Iven
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 2:48pmDamn straight!!!!!!! More of this has to happen. They are taking OUR COUNTRY, one piece at a time. Force us to bend to their ways, and to hell with our Constutition and way of life. Come on people!!! The time is here! To hell, no pigs feet, with CAIR!!! God fearing AMERICANS have had enough. Stand up Americans!!!
Report Post »wellhangingchad
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 10:39pmIf you don‘t like rules then don’t join the military. It’s that simple. It should be the same with citizenship. If you want our country to be like the one you escaped from then go back.
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on October 23, 2011 at 8:01amtheaveng…”We allow other people to wear symbols in the military. Like Scots wearing kilts. Pastors wearing crosses and collars.”
Are you SERIOUS? We do not allow Scotts to wear kilts, unless it is a bagpiper at a funeral. When was the last time you saw a trooper, or a Marine, marching wearing a kilt. Name me ANY instance you saw a US soilder wearing a kilt that was not a bagpiper at a funeral.
As for priests and pastors… as most chaplins are wearing bdu’s, they are also wearing faith based insignia, not collars.
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on October 23, 2011 at 8:32amrose-ellen… “Her right to freely practice her religion is protected. No different then wearing a Sikh head covering, yalmulka or rastafarian head cover. What do the courts say?Must be consistent.If the military welcomes all religions then it must welcome their head coverings. Is kosher or hallal food served in the military?”
Your complete and utter ignorance is astounding. First, No one is prohibiting her from practicing her religion. The military is about conforming. All dress alike. A soldier in Korea is wearing the same uniform as a soldier in Germany, Italy, or the US. Being in the military removes most of your freedoms. For instance, you no longer have the freedom of speech or assembly. You do not even have the freedom of your own personal body. If the military says youre getting a shot, trust me, your getting the shot. You give up your rights to personal freedoms when you MAKE THE CHOICE to join. Your reference to wearing a Sikh turbin, Yakima, or rastafarian beanie is ridiculous. A Yamika can be covered by covers and caps. No skh is allowed to wear a turbin and no rastafarian (now we have a whole new outlook as to were you are coming from) is allowed to wear reggae beanies, just like they cant smoke dope (considered a spiritual act). You are no longer an individual but part of a uniformed collective. Something you should be accustomed to.
Finally, the uniformity, is discipline. If she cant show uniformity, she cant show discipline. And Cair can kiss my butt
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on October 23, 2011 at 8:51amFor those of you who believe there are good muslims… There are two types of muslims.
1. Extremest muslim. One who faithfully practices the teachings of the koran.
2. Moderate muslim. One who watches the faithful, practice the teachings of the koran.
Here are a few tasty quotes:
Report Post »Sura 2:187 “And kill them wherever ye shall find them”
“Kill the disbelievers wherever we find them.” (Sura 2:191)
“The infidels are your sworn enemies.” (Sura 4:101)
Sura 4:89 “seize them and slay them wherever you find them.”
“The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger…will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land.” (Sura 5:33)
“Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends.” (Sura 5:51)
“Infidels are those who declare: ‘God is the Christ, the son of Mary.’” (Sura 5:17)
“Infidels are those that say ‘God is one of three in a Trinity.’” (Sura 5:73)
Sura 9:005: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush”
“Make war on the infidels who dwell around you.” (Sura 9:123)
Armed Patriot
Posted on October 23, 2011 at 8:52amA few more tasty quotes from the Koran…
Sura 9:123 “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you”
Report Post »Sahih Bukhari 004.52.176 “The Day of Resurrection will not arrive until the Moslems make war against the Jews and kill them, and until a Jew hiding behind a rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: ‘Oh Moslem, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!’
“When you meet the infidel in the battlefield, strike off their heads.” (Sura 47:4)
“Mohammed is Allah’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the infidels.” (Sura 48:29)
“Prophet, make war on the infidels.” (Sura 66:9)
AxelPhantom
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:35pmRead the rules before you sign on the dotted line. The military is not a place where your personal preferences are worth crap! You screw up and the whole group pays for your mistakes; Fuzz on your locker socks and your whole unit gets an extra hour of PT. Uniformity, conformation, out of many… one. It is not a game. .If it rubs you the wrong way, don’t volunteer.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:41pmTELL YA WHAT WE’RE GONNA DO….allow us to carry BIBLES in Saudi Arabia and Iraq and Egypt…and don’t kill Christians for trying to attend their churches (older than ISLAM) …let us wear CROSSES if we want to and SAY OUT LOUD: Yes, I am A Christian or Yes, I am Jewish…and then we’ll think about talking to this band master for you.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:43pmOH, yeah…don’t run through ROME and throw a beautiful STATUE of our BLESSED MOTHER either, okay? You wore your scarfs I noticed while you were doing that. Probably not a good thing to do.
Report Post »ErinLindsey
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:45pmSomeone needs to tell this girl that when you‘re in the military it’s not all about the individual. When you‘re in the military you’re part of a team. That’s why everyone has to wear a uniform and the only thing that differentiates you from others would be the insignia on your collar or shoulder that signifies rank.
If her hijab is more important to her than being part of a team in the military, then I guess the military isnt for her. Good that she finds out about that while still in the ROTC and not during or after she finishes basic training.
Report Post »jose wasabi
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:35pmThis is America, we have rules for some things. We don’t care whether you like them or not. If you don’t want to assimilate and be an American, please go back to whereever you came from. I’m certain you had more rights there than you do here.
Report Post »Teaparty-grammy
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 12:42amYeah, and if she doesn’t want to assimilate, why does she want to join our military? Hoping to get a chance to do another Fort Hood? We don’t need HER or any of her “religion of peace” friends in our military. So keep your headscarf, girly, and stay the he ll away from our military. We‘ll all sleep better at night know you’re NOT guarding the ramparts,. Jihad girl.
Report Post »MakeTheMiddleEastAGlassFactory
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 7:11amAmen!
Report Post »random357
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:35pmThey‘re telling me I’m not allowed to march in the parade just because of a piece of cloth wrapped around my head.
If is is only a cloth why not take it off? Not allowed to march because she won’t take it off.
Report Post »FLPAINTBRUSHMAMA
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:35pmThe liberals will jump on this as she is being “discriminated” against.I’m just wondering where the separation of church and state “doctrine” that liberals heartily endorse will be applied to this situation.
Report Post »KenInIL
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 3:13amThere are plenty of Muslim armies for her to join, just not in this country. Her family should vote with their feet and move to that freedom loving Saudi Arabia.
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on October 23, 2011 at 9:01amI believe Hamas has the rag as part of their uniform for girls… ummm female camel jockeys… Ooops did I just say that. Islam is at war with the US. The only way to win wars is to demonize the enemy. Islam is the enemy and they are truly demons.
Report Post »Libby Tarian
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:35pmThe head covering ( hijab ) is not even commanded by the Qur’an. The term hijab or veil is not used in the Qur’an to refer to an article of clothing for women or men, rather it refers to a spatial curtain that divides or provides privacy. The Qur’an instructs the male believers (Muslims) to talk to wives of Prophet Muhammad behind a hijab. This hijab was the responsibility of the men and not the wives of Prophet Muhammad. However, in later Muslim societies this instruction, specific to the wives of Prophet Muhammad, was generalized, leading to the segregation of the Muslim men and women.
Report Post »Teaparty-grammy
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 12:48amThat’s all very interesting, but it is STILL a disgusting symbol of a perverted religion that would deny everybody in the world except them any freedom of religion or expression. I see no reason why we should cooperate in our own destruction by letting these cockroaches take over our country the way they have in Europe.
Report Post »Skrewedretiree
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:33pmWhat part of uniform regulations of the United States military does she not understand. Gonna fight to change the rules? Go ahead; we’ve known for years that muslims are looking to pick fights in Western society and try to convert it to that pig-dung Satanic religion called islam, so go for it. If it‘s a fight you want it’s a fight you’ll get.
By the way: The US Military has been fighting boy-buggering ragheads since 1804. No doubt you will want to change the history of the Barbary Pirates so you mooslim cows won’t be offended. Well, get over it! Frankly, I’m damned tired of being offended by YOU and YOUR KIND!
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:42pmMorocco was one of the first states to recognize the U.S. They also provide protection to our ships. U fortunately their writ did not extend further east to Tunisia.
Report Post »USMCGator
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:31pmIf it’s “just a piece of cloth wrapped around your head”, then take it off and march. If it‘s more than that and you are unwilling to remove it then don’t march. It’s not that difficult to understand.
Report Post »Dalady
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:48pmnuf said
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:58pmThat about covers it.
Report Post »bullcrapbuster
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:30pmHey cupcake…christians and Jews do not think it is heroic to blow up airplanes or strap bombs to their bodies and blow up innocent women and children. Shape up or ship out.
Report Post »normbal
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:28pmOn the one hand, it’s why they call them “uniforms.”
On the other hand, and not to cast aspersions, while on active duty I knew American jews who wore Yarmulkes while on duty.
But next thing you know, all the brothers will want to wear do-rags, Sikh’s their turbans (oh, they already do that too).
Looks like the ‘slims get to wear their hijabs now.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:40pmYes, someone already pointed out that those are covered by head gear & so are not seen normally.
Report Post »Attention2Detail
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:55pmThey only wouldn’t allow her to wear the scarf in a parade. I assume that means that she has been allowed to wear it for everything else. The military has been very accommodating. In a parade the word uniform means just that and the scarf would not work. The same would go for any deviation. Even chaplains cannot wear clerical collars in certain situations. She had the choice to wear the uniform or not participate in the parade. That was more choice than she would have had when I wore the uniform.
Report Post »bcim
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:27pmIf you want to practice Sharia Law, go home bitch. We don’t wear Muslim rags on our head in the USA, especially in the services!!! STONE HER!!
Report Post »TADTAD
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:27pmFor the 100th million time; sigh.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:23pmDoes anybody care what the hell CAIR thinks, says or does??
Report Post »getalong
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:27pmBoo Hoo….live in America then abide by America’s rules!
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:30pmFor about the 1st year they were on FOX back 11 years ago. But since then, they have been getting more radical or more honest.
Report Post »InfiniteSolutions
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:36pmIf it’s only a piece of cloth then why is she making such a big deal about taking it off. I think America has bent our rules for too many foriegners. If she doesn’t want to adopt the culture than she can go back to her own country. I don’t buy the crying crap, this is just another attack on the American way of life. This is the right decision and I agree and support it. By the way, all the other languages we are catering to, let’s get rid of that to, no more multiple support of languages on ballots or anything else government produced. This is our country, go back to your own country if you don’t like it!!!!!! Shame, shame, shame on you people who have no backbone and give into to this stupidity.She‘s lucky she’s not living in her own country, should wouldn’t even have the rights she has here in America. Respect Us!
Report Post »Steve
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 1:50am82dAirborne
Well Ron Paul does.
Paul cited a University of Chicago professor, Robert Pape, whose research argues that most of the suicide terrorism in the past 30 years was caused by military occupation. Pape’s research, funded by the Defense Department, shows that suicide bombings in Afghanistan went up one third after the Obama administration surged 30,000 troops into the country.
Report Post »Not only is Pape wrong; he’s on the dole of Hamas-linked CAIR.
Lion420
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:22pmShe should be used to subjugation, after all she is owned by her father until he sees fit to give her or sell her to another man.
Report Post »jonnyfontain
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:19pmand thats the way uh-huh uh-huh we like it!!! Get a life and either conform to our society or leave! We do have our own customs in this country and they will not be broken for the backward religion like islam
Report Post »The Divided States of America
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:19pmi am so sick of these muslims ..GROWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL…GOOOOO AWAYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:17pmGuess she didn‘t read the rules and reg’s huh ? She is simply stirring crap that’s what muslims do she knew she would have to give up the head gear but thought she was special beacuse she could claim discrimanation she could get away with it .
Report Post »DJEyeDub
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:26pmYou are right on the money. This has been going on in Canada for some time now. It started with our RCMP and recently participation in soccer is under attack by the same argument. This is just he beginning.
Report Post »dmforman
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:26pmThis seems to be what some Muslims do when they come to America. They don’t realize that they must follow rules, like everyone else, and if they don’t like it, they are more than welcome to go to where they want they can do the things that they want to do. America needs to stop changing rules like this for Muslims, progressives, and the like.
Report Post »Teaparty-grammy
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 1:11amIt’s just what the Muslim cockroaches do: First infest the country, then make a lot of noise, accusing everybody of violating your “rights” and get a bunch of laws passed where you can basically do whatever you want and nobody is allowed to touch you . . . they are so interested in THEIR rights, but sure don‘t care about anybody else’s.. I am with the poster who said “I am so sick of these Muslims – gooooo awaaaaay!
By the way, I have a solution for world terrorism. We should issue a statement that the next time ANY Muslim puke commits an act of terroris against the US or Israel, we are going to reduce MECCA to a smoking hole in the ground. If they revere Mecca as much as they said they do, THAT should cook their jets. Oh, yeah, and part 2 is, if they DO commit another act of terrorism after that warning, then FOLLOW THROUGH and bomb Mecca. Hopefully at whatever hour the most cockroaches will be there doing their cockroach prayers.
Report Post »BetsyRoss1513
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 6:51pmAnd it’s so funny how this kinda stuff has been all over the news before. Did she think that she would somehow be able to change the rules for herself even though others before her have been denied?
Report Post »Did she think we forgot about all those other girls we also said NO to?
One of the strong
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:17pmGood, and tough crap. You wear the uniform of the service, not the one of your choice. Or, you don’t get to play, simple. Learn it, love it, live it. And as for CAIR, no one CARES about anything you think or say, so go way boy, ya bother me.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:17pmDoes any one else feel uneasy about letting the muslims into our military. Devout muslims are Islam first. That does not seem to mesh well with America first.
Report Post »Welcome Black Carter
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:30pmHistory would suggest it is like oil and water. Better if we nip it in the bud and keep them all out.
Report Post »Teaparty-grammy
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 1:19amPersonally, I am REAL uneasy with it. There have already been cases where we lived to regret letting these cockroaches into our military. Grenade boy killing his comrades by rolling a grenade into a tent of his own fellow soldiers in Iraq, and the Fort Hood shooter. We are at WAR with these people, literally and figuratively, and even if we were not, they are CERTAINLY at war with us!
This is way different than Japanese-Americans and German-Americans in WWII. They did not deserve the treatment they got, as they were as loyal as any other American. But these cockroaches are NOT loyal Americans. They are only loyal to their bloodsoaked perversion of a religion. They come into our country and use the very rights and freedoms they would deny others to try to destroy us and take over our country. I do not see that we are obligated to go along with their ideas OR tolerate their filthy religion, which is only a 7th Century Theocratic form of government with delusions of grandeur that wants to take over the world.
Report Post »geonj
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:15pmthe military branches have uniform requirements. religion does not come into play. cair can make as much noise as they want. if muslims wants to get into the military, they need to follow the rules. weare not now, nor will we ever be, a sharia compliant nation. this girl has something here she wouldn’t have in an arab nation, choice. she can choose the rotc or she can choose her head scarf. case closed. funny how these muslims all run to cair, like they have some influence in the obama administration.
Report Post »netmail
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:13pmIf they cave in and let the girl wear her headgear, they will have to let flag pins and ‘God Bless America’ emblems in too. That‘s what they REALLY don’t want to do. Their real intentions are not good that’s for sure.
Report Post »netmail
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:20pmI blew thru this article and picked up “high school” and “homecoming parade”….ROTC…girl’s got to follow the rules. That’s what keeps the military together, or it use to.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:21pmAnd swastika’s
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:24pmHey, guess what? When you’re in uniform, you don’t get to wear a flag lapel pin. YOU ARE the symbol of freedom. I wasn’t even allowed to smoke in public, or kiss my fiancee when in uniform.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:58pmKiss? You are not even allowed to hold hands!
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 4:20pmThe UCMJ prohibits public display of affection.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:12pmWell if it is just as just a piece of cloth as you say then you should have no issue with taking it off…
Report Post »majorsco
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:11pmAs a retired military member, there are reasons for everything. Uniformity and teamwork are hallmakrs and necessary requirements. Just as headscarves would be inappropriate in a fox hole, they are also inappropriate the rest of the time. Soldiers never know when they’ll be thrown into a combat situation and will need to be ready in all aspects. The soldiers and sailors at Pearl Harbor didn‘t have the ability to decide when they’d be in combat vs. in dress uniform. They were forced into combat while in dress uniforms in some cases. This woman knew the requirements before she entered the military. Did she lie when she accepted the oath?
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:26pmI have a theory that they take away all our freedoms in boot camp just so we will know what we are fighting for. They teach how to fold your underwear, not because you‘re momma didn’t teach you, but to teach attention to detail, because it could save a shipmate’s life.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 10:05pmLoriann,
Report Post »It goes much deeper than that, it is about tearing the old you down and rebuilding you into a stonger person who can think/act as both an individual and as a team. Hang in there, boot camp is tough, but the adventure begins soon enough. Thank-you for volunteering to serve.
asybot
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 2:23amI have never been in the military but have played a lot of team sports at high levels. There you had to have discipline as well. The minute I read she was just about to cry I though wow that would enough for me not to have her on my team!
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 6:57am@AxelPhantom
You’re welcome, but I did my service a long time ago…..1984-88. Reagan signed my discharge papers. I remember thinking how awful it would be to have Clinton sign them, and now we have Obummer….sigh.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:05pmSorry honey in the Military you swear an outh to the constitution and follow the rule. Your muslim faith does not make the militays rules null and void. Be a soldier first!
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:14pmSorry!, “ oath” for all the educated liberals. Pardon my islamophobic stpidity!
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:03pmGood. It’s about time we became America again.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:08pmI forgot: Screw CAIR!
Report Post »Crakaveli
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:16pmYou say that now but what about when it’s a Christian?
Report Post »Blazer123
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:20pm@Crakaveli: Christians aren’t allowed to display any religious symbols on their uniforms either. Uniform, it’s a word…
also, screw CAIR
Report Post »ThatsJustCrazyTalk
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 9:32pm@Crakaveli: “What about when it’s a Christian?“ Do you mean when they let ”gays” into the military?
Christians have been affected by military rules for well over 200 years. Haven’t noticed them making a fuss like this. I don‘t understand your point even though you’re just playing devils, er, I mean LEFTIST advocate.
Report Post »eddvoss
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 10:13pmSpoken like a true Paratrooper. Only cloth I want over my head is the cloth my canopy is made of.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on October 20, 2011 at 10:24pm@Eddvoss
Report Post »Well I am kinda partial to that maroon beret! BUT- It is part of the uniform IF you earn it.
Dismayed Veteran
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 4:27pmSheeeettt. Religion comes second to the mission. If I could let my men go to church services, I would. But if I needed them they would have wait for next visit by the padre. Every Saturday or Sunday, depending on your Sabbath, soldiers are on duty who would have liked to attend church but don’t.
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