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Muslim or Christian? Dome on New Church Causes Confusion in Phoenix
- Posted on November 16, 2010 at 1:24am by
Scott Baker
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The new Light of the World church in Phoenix would like to make one thing very clear — they are not building a mosque. Sure they have a dome, but it’s a fresh, new Christiany kind of dome:
Since the distinctive dome shape went up, church leaders said they have received phone calls from concerned neighbors who’ve mistaken the building for an Islamic mosque.
On Wednesday, church officials hung a sign reminding people they’re Christian congregation. “We‘re trying to let people know that we’re Christian and our churches are modern,” said Uzieo Martinez.
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Comments (104)
rfycom
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 8:42amDoes a house of fantasy matter anyway?
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 11:50amYou may not believe in God but, He still believes in you.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 8:36amI can’t wait to see the bell they are going to put inside this dome.
Report Post »Buck Ofama
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 8:26amHere’s a pic of an islamic mosque. I think it’s in Michigan. Not sure exactly as I had opened the pic in a new window and then jumped away from the original page.
http://www.salatomatic.com/images/photos/4218.jpg
Now here’s a pic of a Greek Orthodox church near Indianapolis, Indiana.
http://www.holytrinityindy.org/Portals/3/Images/newchurchwide.jpg
With the exception of the crosses on the domes, it looks more like a mosque than the pic of the actual mosque. But after looking at a few other Greek Orthodox churches they seem to lean toward the domed style of architecture. I’m just used to Christian churches looking something like this.
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Gonzo
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 8:25amSt. Peter’s Basilica in Rome has a dome, Muslim‘s don’t own the concept.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 9:25amThey have been very effective at usurping the icon and associating it with Islam. Look at the response the construction of a dome has attracted. Most people don’t even really know why they object other than “it looks like a mosque”. They never stop to think how an import architectural form that existed before Islam, has been usurped.
The sign of Islamic dominance over a region is when the minarets are constructed not domes.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:23amAgreed Mike.
Report Post »Country
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 8:17amWhy would a church want to look like a mosque? I would be suspicious too.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 8:28amTake a look at St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome. Big old dome on top.
Report Post »JohnnyJT
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 8:14amDon’t look good.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 8:10amDomes existed before Islam.
The usurpation of symbols and architecture is a part of Jihad. This church should sport a dome. They are great big open spaces. Do not allows Islam to usurp an architectural icon that is not theirs!
Report Post »HouseNegro
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 8:08amMohammad the architect can’t figure out what the controversy is all about…………
Report Post »WestOfThePecos
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 7:54amHow is Soros‘s ’One World’ and Muslins going to co-exist?
Report Post »Kimberli
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 7:46amI am intolerant of their promise to kill infidels. I am unwilling to surround myself with muslim, islam, or whatever bow you want to put on it. I do not want to listen to every new spin they put on “jihad”. Their beliefs are treasonous and they should never have been given a foothold in our Great Country.
Report Post »NHABE64
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 7:14amI am sick of seeing the increasing numbers of islamic mosques in America, and I know I am not alone. We are a CHRISTIAN country, and WE THE PEOPLE are not about to let islam pull off the same crap they have done in Europe and especially France. No way! Enough is enough, and don‘t think Americans don’t know who exactly are responsible for increased security at airports, the pat downs, etc. As American moves forward in taking our country back from the socialists, one of the things we must brace ourselves for is stop pussyfooting around with islam. We are war with islam, period and the sooner more of America wakes up to that fact, the sooner we can send it on its way.
Report Post »bobodu
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 6:04amDeuteronomy 21:18
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JRJSRJ
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 5:38amMany of the ancient churches had domes. There is nothing distinctively “Islamic” about a dome. Now a minaret would be a dead give away! Good eye though to the folks in Phoenix. Now if you can just spot those illegals
Report Post »Kalidor835
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 6:10amThe whole point of domes back when the first large churches were built was that it was the strongest building that they could make with the technologies that they had. It was predicated on the same theory as an arch. The weight would flow towards the center with all sides then being able to support it. Some of the largest domes even went as far as to have smaller arches within the dome to disperse weight even further. A perfect example of such an ancient cathedral that still stands is the Hagia Sophia (Aya Sofya) in Istanbul which dates back to the Byzantines. For a modern church to do so is no big deal as far as I’m concerned and, unless the architects say otherwise, it may even have been inspired by such.
Report Post »Kalidor835
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 6:16amIt is a real shame though that the Muslim Ottomans decided that they were too lazy to build their own building so converted it into a damn mosque.
Report Post »welovetheUSA
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 3:49amTear it down…….Muslims are our enemies…………kick them all out of here now before that take control.
TrueGrit
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 6:05amWay too late…
they are taking over Churches all over the country… one by one.
Do your homework.
Wolverine
Report Post »kspatriot
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 3:14amOne thing people need to get straight. This is America. They (the progressive left aka the democrat party) wants us to be “tolerant” and “inclusive”. This is fine as long as those things fit into the American Ideal and cause no harm or weaken the country. People that come here and expect the country to change into something other than The Constitution dictates, need to leave or get tossed out. We won’t tolerate lawbreakers that tresspass on our land, and that is NOT a race issue, it’s a legal and moral issue. We need citizens that follow the laws and have honor and integrity. Those that sneek in by lying, cheating, and stealing, though would be model democrats, are not good for America and have already domonstrated a lack of honesty.
Report Post »whitaker
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 4:06amSo tell us how you really feel about democrats? lol. The dome is an old archetical shape used in alot of buildings for 1000s of years. Americans just dont use it much.
Report Post »“We should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else … But this is predicated upon the man’s becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American. … There can be no divided allegiance here. … We have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
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New-American-Saviors
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 2:38amFaith is Good ! Maybe the design needs a little Tweaking though. Wouldn’t want a bunch showing up at 3:00 in the afternoon locked out…Would we ?
Report Post »tea bag patriot
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 2:31amGlenn is awesome.
Rn mom
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 8:50amSee… now you aren’t censored anymore-see how conformity works?
Report Post »1776Federalist
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 3:19pmGlenn is awesome. God is magnificent!
Report Post »tea bag patriot
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 2:30amI am being censored
Gonzo
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 8:25amGood.
Report Post »Rn mom
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 8:49amI guess the site administrator is giving you a taste of what your future will be like with communism- your freedom to insult will limited.
Report Post »judy1270
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 11:13amGood…..take the time to read something_Useful
Report Post »1776Federalist
Posted on November 18, 2010 at 3:18pmWhat happened ******? Did your Mama come downstairs and find your rants were getting too mean again? You should be glad she is only censoring you instead of grounding you from your computer.
Report Post »LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 2:30amFor some reason I expected it to look LESS like a mosque. I can see why there is confusion.
Report Post »burnteye86
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 2:24amGod is not the author of confusion.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 9:26amnope, god is a confused concept from primitive uneducated people who roamed in the desert looking for a reason for their misery.
they made on up alright.
Report Post »dkhartman
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:56amThats funny mrbutcher, GOD and GOD alone has brought me out of my misery. There is no mistake about that…. With him I have peace and the ability to love others that I really would just rather not love…. But, when it’s all said and done, you will meet the One you speak so harshly about and only then will you know how wrong you are…
Report Post »Spookytruck
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 2:39pmNo, MrButcher is the confused one. He still cannot explain to me how all this just happened by chance, but our best science cannot create life, or even restore life to something that has died. Why not Mr Butcher? Everything is there. The body is there. You can put new blood into it. You can put new air into it. You can even put nourishment into it. Where does the life come from? Some cosmic soup? If it all just happened by chance MrButcher, why can’t we create it?
How about the universe? How did precise organization such as the orbits of planets come out of a bang? Every explosion I’ve ever seen, has only ever created chaos, not precision. How did skunks develop their smell? How did different animals develop different kinds of eyes that work only for them? How could different animals each develop their own defense systems, by chance? How many different animals had to die, before they figured out how to develop their defenses? Why doesn’t a snakes poison, poison the snake?
No MrButcher. Everything is wonderfully designed and everything that is designed, has to have a designer. I can put every part of a watch into a box, and it will never come together, by chance to be a watch. Everything is there. All the parts are just parts, until someone puts them together. Someone had to design the parts. It would be a whole lot easier to just humble yourself and ask G-d to make Himself real to you. He’s not afraid of your asking Him in honesty. He loves those who can just come to Him and ask. Tell Him you don’t believe, but you are open to Him. Ask Him to reveal Himself to you and make Himself real, if He really is real. Then watch out. You may just find out how real He is. Those who G-d has revealed Himself to, can never again doubt. They know, that they know, that they know, that they know. Are you that certain?
Report Post »WhiteFang
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 3:14pmSpookytruck, When speaking to Mrbutcher, you need to keep it simple, he does not understand clear logic.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 2:15amI don’t have any misconceptions about Muslims. Do you?
Report Post »MrObvious
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 3:18amSaying you don’t means you do. Here’s how that works. If you are sure you know everything, and lack misconceptions, about almost anything as abstract as a major religion, odds are you’ve misconstrued something.
If you think it’s a religion of peace, then explain Jihadists.
If you think it’s all evil, explain the Imams at 8/28.
Islam, like most religions has many sects.
Even within the main branches their are sub-sects.
AQ are Sunni Wahhabis.
Hamas and Hezbollah are Shea Muslims (although probably an extremist sub-sect, similar to the 12ers that run Iran).
One thing is for sure though: Anyone calling for enforcement of Sharia law, is an extremist.
Sharia law calls for the stoning of woman who’ve been raped, and disfigurement of girls private parts to prevent pleasure from procreation, the killing of homosexuals, and conversion of non-believers, to whatever specific branch of Islam is followed by those enforcing it, by force of arms and/or the killing of non-believers who refuse to convert.
The GZVM Cordoba project Imam, has stated he would like to see Sharia in the US.
If you had a problem with any of the above, then I’m glad I was able to help clear up your misconception(s) about Islam.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 6:29amHere we go with “intolerance”, “Islamaphobia”, but they just don’t get the point. If they would root out the people willing to do harm to this country the perception would be different. I wonder if someone moved into the neighborhood willing to do harm to this lady and her family, but none of the neighbors would root them out, if she would get the point. There is no problem with 99.9% of the Muslims in this country.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 7:02am@Grandmaof5
Agreed that the majority of Muslums are decent folks, it is the extremists and radicals of any and all faiths or beliefs (like Progressives) that ruin it for everyone. Even among Christianity are fanatical and radical extremists who desire to impose their will on everyone else. We have one other building just down the street, about a mile away from where I live in Phoneix that has a dome on top of the building and they do get asked if it is a mosque. It is a giant reception room.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 7:51amSnowleopard, we also have one in our town. When they were building it (about 7 years ago) I remember thinking it looked odd but never that it might be a mosque. Times have sure changed.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 8:42amI don’t have any misconceptions about Muslims either Republicorp. They can do and say whatever they want. But they have already told me that THEY WOULD LIE TO ME TO GAIN MY TRUST SO THEY COULD KILL ME. That’s all I need to know.
Report Post »joseph Fawcett
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 1:58amHummmm, I wonder if they are apart of the one world Church even if they say they are Christian. Muslims, I don’t fear muslims, I use to decorate muslim weddings just outside of Chicago. I am a born again Christian. I did it for the money and as a witness to them. I was very well respected in that muslim community.
However, I don’t trust the muslim faith because of what some of the followers believe and have done while the silent majority has remained silent. I would be concerned if I lived by a muslim community, I don’t yet.
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the hawk
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 1:55amiT’s in Phoenix right whats wrong with a big tint and some fans? really?
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snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 2:38amChecked the sight out and it kept tying up my IE to a snails crawl despite the number of times I went to it on different computers.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 1:31amThe spirit, not the shape, determines the will of the worshippers.
Report Post »tea ****** patriot
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 2:15amPerfectly understandable that the neighbors would be concerned.
Can’t have non christians building churches.
tea bag patriot
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 2:28amTotally understandable why they would be concerned.
Can’t have non-christians building churches.
Diego Garcia
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 2:56amThere is European Christianity and American Christianity. European Christianity built ostentatious domes while American Christianity built clarion calling steeples to the faith. The ostentatious domes are in our heads in the form of an intellectual faith in Christ and God the father.
God is in the head and not the in the physical. People who name their kids Jesus as if they were naming him Mikey are only grasping Christianity in its pagan form.
Report Post »Robert W
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 4:09amRun from that church!
Report Post »sodun
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 7:12amThe ‘church’ is the people INSIDE the building.
Report Post »HeavyMetalRooster
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 7:35am@DoucheBaggingPatriot–
Especially those “non-christians“ that want to kill ”infidels”
Report Post »A1955Rosie
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 8:37amGiven the sentiment, GOOGLE “FLIGHT 93 MEMORIAL”…..think of the towers and the mosque….no more, but no less.
Report Post »proudinfidel54
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 9:30amTEA BAG PATRIOT, Hmm, new name same Sarcastic Rhetoric
Report Post »finwe
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 11:53amOK this is ridiculous! Think people, how many churches have domes? St Peters…St Pauls, Church of the Holy Sepulchre, and the Duomo are just a few, soooooo many old Christian places of worship have domes. People are morons if they think domes = mosques.
Report Post »Spookytruck
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 2:00pmThe Church is built with living stones. Do you not know, that we are the temple of (Ruach HaKodesh) the Holy Spirit, if indeed (Yeshua the Messiah) Jesus Christ dwells in you. Neither the dome, nor the steeple make it a church, but the people who meet there. It could be a house, a pavilion, a store front, or open air meeting. Where two, or three are gathered in His name, He is there in the midst of them.
Report Post »REBELWITHACAUSE
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 3:47pmTHANK YOU, @ SODUN – too many don‘t realize the ’people’ ARE the church. Doesn’t matter what kind of building the people are meeting in… they could worship from a tent, a shack, or what have ya… the people, their unity, their worship of their creator, that’s what matters. As long as they’re not drinking poison-laced kool-aid!
Report Post »Robert W
Posted on November 16, 2010 at 10:17pmTeabagginloser- Did they leave the asylum door open again?
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