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Update: Is New Australian Face Veil Traffic Law a Sign of Anti-Muslim Bias?

Update: Is New Australian Face Veil Traffic Law a Sign of Anti Muslim Bias?

A Muslim woman wearing a burqa shops at a local market in Sydney Sunday, July 10, 2011. Muslim women would have to remove veils and show their faces to police on request or risk a prison sentence under proposed new laws in Australia's most populous state of New South Wales that have drawn criticism as culturally insensitive. (AP Photo/Rob Griffith)

CANBERRA, Australia (AP) — Muslim women would have to remove veils and show their faces to police on request or risk a prison sentence under proposed new laws in Australia’s most populous state that have drawn criticism as culturally insensitive.

A vigorous debate that the proposal has triggered reflects the cultural clashes being ignited by the growing influx of Muslim immigrants and the unease that visible symbols of Islam are causing in predominantly white Christian Australia since 1973 when the government relaxed its immigration policy.

Under the law proposed by the government of New South Wales, a woman who defies police by refusing to remove her face veil could be sentenced to a year in prison and fined 5,500 Australian dollars ($5,900).

The bill – to be voted on by state parliament in August – has been condemned by civil libertarians and many Muslims as an overreaction to a traffic offense case involving a Muslim woman driver in a “niqab,” or a veil that reveals only the eyes.

The government says the law would require motorists and criminal suspects to remove any head coverings so that police can identify them.

Critics say the bill smacks of anti-Muslim bias given how few women in Australia wear burqas. In a population of 23 million, only about 400,000 Australians are Muslim. Community advocates estimate that fewer than 2,000 women wear face veils, and it is likely that even a smaller percentage drives.

“It does seem to be very heavy handed, and there doesn’t seem to be a need,” said Australian Council for Civil Liberties spokesman David Bernie said. “It shows some cultural insensitivity.”

The controversy over the veils is similar to the debate in other Western countries over whether Muslim women should be allowed to wear garments that hide their face in public. France and Belgium have outright banned face covering veils in public. Typical arguments are that there is a need to prevent women from being forced into wearing veils by their families or that public security requires people to be identifiable.

Bernie points out that while a bandit disguised by a veil and sunglasses had robbed a Sydney convenience store last year, there were no Australian crime trends involving Muslim women’s clothing.

“It is a religious issue here,” said Mouna Unnjinal, a mother of five who has been driving in Sydney in a niqab for 18 years and never been booked for a traffic offense.

“We’re going to feel very intimidated and our privacy is being invaded,” she added.

Unnjinal said she would not hesitate to show her face to a policewoman. But she fears racist male police officers might misuse the law to deliberately intimidate Muslim women.

“If I’m pulled over by a policeman, I might say I want to see a female police lady and he says, ‘No, I want to see your face,’” Unnjinal said. “Where does that leave me? Do I get penalized 5,000 dollars and sent to jail for 12 months because I wouldn’t?”

Sydney’s best-selling The Daily Telegraph newspaper declared the proposal “the world’s toughest burqa laws.” In France, wearing a burqa – the all-covering garment that hides the entire body except eyes and hands – in public is punishable by a euro150 ($217) fine only.

New South Wales state Cabinet decided to create the law July 4 in response to Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione’s call for greater police powers. Other states including Victoria and Western Australia are also considering similar legislation.

“I don’t care whether a person is wearing a motorcycle helmet, a burqa, niqab, face veil or anything else – the police should be allowed to require those people to make their identification clear,” State Premier Barry O’Farrell said in a statement.

The laws were motivated by the bungled prosecution of Carnita Matthews, a 47-year-old Muslim mother of seven who was booked by a highway patrolman for a minor traffic infringement in Sydney in June last year, The Blaze previously reported.

An official complaint was made in Matthews’ name against Senior Constable Paul Fogarty, the policeman who gave her the ticket. The complaint accused Fogarty of racism and of attempting to tear off her veil during their roadside encounter.

Unbeknown to Matthews, the encounter was recorded by a camera inside Fogarty’s squad car. The video footage showed her aggressively berating a restrained Fogarty and did not support her claim that he tried to grab her veil before she reluctantly and angrily lifted it to show her face.

Matthews was sentenced in November to six months in jail for making a deliberately false statement to police.

But that conviction and sentence were quashed on appeal last month without her serving any time in jail because a judge was not convinced that it was Matthews who signed the false statutory declaration. The woman who signed the document had worn a burqa and a justice of the peace who witnessed the signing had not looked beneath the veil to confirm her identity.

Bernie, the civil libertarian, said the proposed law panders to public anger against Muslims that the case generated in talk radio and tabloid newspapers, which itself is a symptom of the suspicion with which immigrants are viewed.

Muslims are among the fastest growing minorities in Australia and mostly live in the two largest cities, Sydney and Melbourne. There are many examples to suggest they are not entirely welcome.

Muslim and non-Muslim youths rioted for days at Sydney’s Cronulla beach in 2005, drawing international attention to surging ethnic tensions. Proposals to build Islamic schools are resisted by local protest groups. The convictions of a Sydney gang of Lebanese Muslims who raped several non-Muslim women were likened by a judge to war atrocities and condemned in the media.

In 2006, then-Prime Minister John Howard published a book in which he said Muslims were Australia’s first wave of immigrants to fail to assimilate with the mainstream.

Government leaders have also condemned some Muslim clerics who said husbands are entitled to smack disobedient wives, force them to have sex and for suggesting that women who don’t hide their faces behind veils invite rape.

“I wouldn’t like to go and say this is Muslim bashing,” said Ikebal Patel, president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, of the proposed New South Wales laws.

“But I think that the timing of this was really bad for Muslims,” he said.

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  • So
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:33am

    I agree with the law.

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  • psst
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:32am

    Folks. this IS a World wide happening thingy.
    The Western World is is full of useful idiots.
    I have said many time berore and will say it again for the first time,The NWO/OWG/World Governance is a World Wide Conspiracy It IS Real..
    I don’t know who is the COO of Australia, Soros IS the COO of the Americas for the Illuminati.
    Illuminati Members and the Illuminati in this context refers to all of the secret societies and global elitist clubs such as The Illuminati, The Freemasons, Skull and Bones, the Brotherhood, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Roundtable Group, Bilderberg Group, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, the Power Elite, the Bohemian Club, the Young Presidents Organization and dozens of other such organizations.
    The COO deals in $. Greases the palms of crooked pols (useful idiots)and who makes laws to undermine their own countries. BTW they own the MSM.
    They come by any means. The phfluck, they breed like Rabbits (whilst Western “wimmens”opts for 11/2 kids ) eventually will conquor.
    The real irony here IS. These Moslems, Hispanics and others aound the Globe don’t even know they are helping the Illuminati.They only think they are brunging their country into the Western World to take them over.

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    • AOL_REFUGEE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:54am

      Hey, Muslim A-holes: If God (“Allah” to the Muslim A-hole) wanted us to wear veils, we’d have been born with them over our arses. Now you just wear them over yours.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 11:14am

      Yea, they are being used by globalists, agree 100%.

      For religous idiots, Satan got us to eat the fruit, we became aware of our nakedness, and GOD YAHWEH provided for us CLOTHING in order to assuage the SHAME of our OWN CONSCIOUSNESS.

      The VEIL is a way for sin to be reduced in man, because it takes away the visual stimulus that causes men to commit adultery in their hearts by lusting after women visually.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 11:15am

      In order to put down a dog, first claim that the dog is mad (crazy).

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 3:05pm

      I would ask you both to examine 1 Corinthians 11 in regards to Paul’s explanation of women covering their head before God while praying and for Men not to cover their head while praying or prophesying. 

      Paul specifically says all men, all woman, not just the those following social traditions. Curious as to your thoughts. 

      As for the Muslims of Australia, there is no wrong in having to reveal the face to authority for recognition. Most Muslim woman don’t drive and to be honest woman need not wear veils while driving. 

      To argue this invalidates their religious belief is not true unless abused by law enforcement of Australia to embarrass or harass such individuals. 

      @Psst
      Google Club of Rome to find the roots of all the globalist push. It is higher then Buildaberg, UN, etc. The Club of Rome’s agenda is then given to these groups to pass in the 10 kingdoms the Club of Rome setup. Agenda 21 started with the Club of Rome. 

      Globalists want less population, not more, so the ones playing in to their hands are Americans who have only 1 1/2 kids.

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  • Southernguy
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:31am

    Try wearing that stupid looking crap down at the local bank and see what happens, lol

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  • Endurance997
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:28am

    Very reasonable law. Can a reasonable person identify who is under a face veil? No.. I question if some of the face veil impede side vision. Lastly, follow the rules of the road and you won’t have a problem…

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:19am

    Their stupid veils are offensive to me!

    They are offensive to me. It’s why I stay in MY COUNTRY and do not go to their countries. Arghhh!

    You muslimes don’t like our rules, our way of life, go home, leave, now and take your ugly clothes and worse manners and all bombs with you. NOW.

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  • docgreen
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:18am

    @mace
    You stated that police use masks when they enter a building for protection from being ID. Your logic is Ignorant!…. AS soon as their done with their mission, they take off their masks! As far as women wearing a veil, Its BS! Where in the koran does it say they have to cover their faces? When a police officer pulls someone over, or need to verify whom they have or that their name matches who they have, have every right to do this! Same thing with Illegal imigrants, Law inforcement needs to verrify whom they have and make sure they have no warrants, or are not wanted for anything! What if people started to wear white hoods like the KKK used to? Would that be OK, to have millions running around with White hoods? I don’t think African Americans would like it! We need to be able to Identify individuals to verify who they are “its for our safety”!. Have you not heard about terrorists dressing up as women to escape our military? Use your brain! If we don’t wake up to the Evil that surrounds us, we might as well just submit to islam! They use this to mask their Identity! I’d like to see you wear a veil and or mask into a bank! Don’t be surprised if your arrested! So then what? I can see it now, bank robber wears veil into bank to rob it! Canrt I’d them because they wore a veil! Believing these people have the right, not to show law inforcement thier faces, is just Ignorance and will eventually kill us!

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:34am

      Ahahahahahahaa!!!

      After the cowards did their dirt, they take off their mask…AHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHA

      Puhlease spare me the hilarity.

      I don’t know what the Koran says, it’s not my book. All I can do is go off of what that individual thinks is an expression of their religion, and it’s off limits in my opinion if it is not hurting people or costing me any money.

      Leave them the hell alone.

      To hell with the police state. If they can‘t do their jobs without violating people’s rights and religions, then they need to go flip burgers or something, maybe anger the Hare Krishnas for selling cooked pieces of their reincarnated ancestors (cattle).

      KKK isn’t a religion it is a white supremacist cult, and your comparison to Islam displays your true ignorance.

      I’ve heard of people using camoflage to carry out attacks… like the British SAS that was caught in Iraq dressing up like feuding tribes and carrying out shooting and bombing in a false flag attack…

      Something like Operation Northwoods where the Feds were gonna stage a false-flag shootdown of a Cessna filled with students…mhmm.

      If you don’t wake up to the police state being erected around you based on false pretense, may your chains lay lightly upon you.

      Down with the NAZI Police State.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBVVfed4cpA

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    • docgreen
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:03am

      @mace you think islam is a religion? Its a cult just like the KKK! Do you understand they don’t have free will to accept other religions/ its totally against what the koran states! If they convert to another religion its an automatic death sentence! So you really believe islam is a religion? Its a cult of death! Keep thinking what your thinking, eventually you’ll be forced to convet to their peaceful religion! What if the KKK said they’re cult is a religion? Whats the difference then? None! Yet, I don’t see the KKK blowing themselves up for their cult! Mostly muslims, blowing up everyone! Wake Up and pull your Ski mask off! So, because they say they wear it for their religion/cult its OK, even though the Koran doesn’t say they have to wear it? What does the BIble say about covering hair? I believe it was put in their to let us know, that there would come a time when some cult would do this!

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    • DYNA
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:22am

      @V-MAN MACE
      Islam is a supremacist cult. When the numbers of Islam adherents are sufficient to dominate they do.
      They are not going to respect your life when they kill there own. Regarding costing you money, don’t you think they are mooching off of taxpayer paid entitlements? If you are an infidel they probably think you owe it to them.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:33am

      docgreen

      There is no doubt that Islam is a religion.

      For me to accept the premise that it is a cult, I would have to consider myself a cult member of the Christian faith. You are WROOOOOONG!

      Comparing the KKK to Islam is a FALSE COMPARISON.

      I don’t accept your premise. My ski-mask is staying firmly on to hide my face from my REAL enemies, the NAZI POLICE STATE.

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    • muhamadhater
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 2:22am

      @V-Man..It truly is not a religeon.. Please read some of the Quran and u will see…Knowlegde is power my friend, And u are right about one thing…comparing the KKK 2 Islam is wrong, a much better comparising would be Nazi germany 2 Islam…but hey see for yoourself…
      Punch in( prophetofdoom.net) I promise u it is eye opening, but go there read some of the Quran yourself and take what u want from it. I think if anything u will see that it is a fake religion if not a cult, eather way I hope it brings u closer 2 God!!
      Death 2 Islam

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 10:35am

      I’m not going to argue with some idiot calling themselves “muhamadhater” about whether Islam is a religion or a cult.

      You are a joke. That’s one thing that is non-debatable.

      Go stand outside a mosque and spout your ridiculous garbage. They know what to do with you.

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  • Bermuda Onion
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:14am

    Isn’t it also against their religion for women to drive? So, if they cannot drive because of their religion don’t drive. Now, if you must drive then you just broke a religious law so not using the veil should be OK also.

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    • cogito ergo sum
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:35am

      No it is not against their religion. Can people inform themselves first so they do not make inaccurate claims. Saudi Arabia does not allow their women to drive as they interpret the religious text VERY conservatively. The right to drive is based on interpretation, it is not explicit in the text. I haven’t actually read the text, just articles on that particular topic.

      Cogito Ergo Sum

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    • WitegaSchadde
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 11:07am

      Cogito. You have just outed yourself as not knowing what you are talking about. You need to study Sharia law so you can make an informed opinion. Islam is not just a religion its a political ideology.

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  • cogito ergo sum
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:14am

    While this law seems to be practical, it should not be implemented without far greater clarification. They have a religious freedom just like every other citizen. If there is a need to remove the burqa or veil then it should be only to female officers since their purpose is not have men look at their face. Also under what conditions can an officer request the veil to be removed? That is the most pertinent question here. It is necessary to set conditions under which this law can be applied. It is wrong to say a woman should have to remove her veil simply because she drives. I think they need to really re-think this law. As it stands, from the information gathered from this article it should not be passed as law.

    Cogito Ergo Sum

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    • Coralchristie
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:00am

      I disagree. It is imperative for police officers to be able to identify any person in the course of enforcing the law. The niqab hides identity so completely as to cause increased risk to the officer. Waiting for a female officer will still increase risk to the “arresting” officer. If Muslims want to come to America then they should be reasonable and accommodate the culture of their adopted country. If they cannot do that then they should go where their culture is accommodated. All these issues are part of the plan to force Sharia compliance on others and preparation for their vision of a world-wide caliphate.

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    • Throwback70
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:14am

      It’s about time someone startedto push back against political correctness. Giving a crap about whether or no someone is offended is the lions share of what’s wrong with us today. If you decide to live in a country where your culture is not the dominant culture, be prepared to have that culture dominate yours. Don’t try to force the country to change to what you require. Go the hell home. Everyone doesn’t get to win, if you don’t like the policy go away….

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  • pecosval
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:10am

    Lift the veil to see who they are….then, lift the burka to see if there is a bomb sticking out of their butts

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    • OhSuzieQ
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:11am

      @Pecosval
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:10am
      Lift the veil to see who they are….then, lift the burka to see if there is a bomb sticking out of their butts

      ~Really!!

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  • One Man Progressive Wrecking Crew
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:09am

    How about shooting them off their heads? I’m sick of all the Kow towing to these replanted Muslims who are just testing the systems of the west priming the pump and planting the flag of Islam everywhere. I’m sick of it. We need to take this cancer out now before it’s too late.

    And that day is coming sooner than Obama becomes a scratch golfer, I’ll tell you that much. He sucks and he’s taken in more rounds in 3 years than PGA Bro Pro Tiger Woods and that IS A FACT.

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  • TH30PH1LUS
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:09am

    IDENTIFICATION: that’s the whole point here. Case began when a MUSLIM WOMAN was DRIVING in Australia – something she would NEVER be allowed to do back in the Caliphate Lands – and cops pulled her over for traffic violation & needed to I.D. her. The ungrateful woman threw a hissy fit instead of thanking the Infidels for creating a country where women can DRIVE.

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  • NHABE64
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:57am

    Absolutely right way to go. If these people do not like, they know where the airport is. Go home to their desert paradise and have a goat round up or something. They will NOT force their absurd and ridiculous culture on a Christian nation. Actually they are almost laughable.

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  • Thatsitivehadenough
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:57am

    I can’t stand seeing these people in a free country. If they want to live like this, go back to some shithole in Arabia. We don’t want it here in Australia. Whenever I see someone like this here, I have to do everything I can to stop myself from attacking them and tearing off their face vail. It is disgusting.

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  • Thatsitivehadenough
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:54am

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! They have to abide by the same laws the rest of us abide by. If they don’t like it THEY SHOULD MOVE BACK TO SOME ISLAMIC COUNTRY. Australia is NOT an ISLAMIC country. Not yet. And not ever.

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  • Carol in MA
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:43am

    The first war America fought was against the Muslims back in the 1780′s. “From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli”…The Barbary Pirates created chaos…..killing, raping & taking slaves….This problem wasn’t just an American, Jewish, or Christian problem…it was a problem to ANYONE who didn’t follow their way of life, their laws, their religion…… The WORLD needs to wake-up IT AFFECTS US ALL!! STOP being so politically correct before it’s to late!!! Are we more concerned about being called a racist than the safety of our children, families or our country??? If the Muslims can’t assimilate into another countries culture…it’s time for them to go back to their homeland.

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    • OhSuzieQ
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:56am

      @Carol in MA

      I’m with YOU 200%! Great post Carol.

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  • old white guy
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:43am

    those who do not hate islam and all the evil that it represents are delusional. islam will be much worse than any of the ism’s of the 20th century. we ignore it at our peril. the burka is just one visible symbol of this evil cult.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:47am

      Islamism vs New World Order Globalism/Crony Collectivism…

      I think New World Order Globalism/Crony Collectivism is a much more insidous and ominously leering menace than Islamism…

      Perhaps I’m awake, perhaps I’m asleep. I’m definitely not sleepwalking.

      I’m not worried about the big bad muslim boogeyman. The Nazi Police State is a much more sinister presence and much more visible.

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    • streetrodder
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:56am

      Mace. WTF You are not asleep, you are in a coma.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:03am

      Streetrodder

      You just keep looking under your bed for the real Osama Bin Laden, you brainwashed sheep.

      Make sure you bend over and cough real hard when the Nazi Police tell you.

      Al Awlaki is behind your toilet. He teleported there after he met with top officials at the Pentagon.

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    • streetrodder
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:36am

      Mace. Next time you have a problem don’t call the Nazi police like you call them, call a muslim. Later!

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:51am

      I don’t call the weak body limp bullies called cops. I reach down in my dadunt dadunts and pull out MY strap. I exercize my 2nd Amendment rights.

      Have a nice day!

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:54am

      PaulusMinimus

      In case you still have your head firmly up your rear end, Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL, the NAZI TSA Is rolling out VIPR TEAMS in public to reinforce the NAZI POLICE STATE TAKEOVER, and the 4th Amendment is GONE thanks to them and their tyranny…

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    • duckman1911
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 12:57pm

      @ Mace…. Just a lil heads up for you…. It’s EXERCISE not EXERCIZE…Good thing for you that an IQ test isnt part of the back ground check for purchasing firearms…If so you would be stuck using a slingshot :)

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 1:36pm

      duckman1911

      You illiterate fool. Are you reduced to correcting spelling errors that don’t exist?

      Exercize can be spelled with a “z” or an “s”.

      You really are stupid, you know that?

      My IQ of 172!!!!!!!! SOARS over yours, dimwit.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 1:46pm

      You hear that fighter jet sound?

      That’s my IQ SOAAARING over yours at ground level, peon.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:48pm

      DUCKMAN, the highly intelligent, IQ of 172 (no less!) V-MAN has just accused me of “CONFLAGRATING!” [ He'll say he was joking, but he wasn't. ] :)

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:58pm

      Yea, that was funny. Honest mistake, I’m not perfect!

      I‘m just smarter than you and you can’t defeat me in debate!

      If that’s all you got, then WOW!!!

      YOU’RE VICTORIOUS!!!

      AHAHAHAHAHAHA

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  • V-MAN MACE
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:41am

    Cops worldwide are using this fabricated terror pretext to push boundaries they really shouldn’t cross.

    “For your safety, let me violate your body and religion.”

    I yell with the voice of thunders: “HELL NO!!”

    I will not pass through the Fire of Moloch and allow myself or my children to be molested or compromise my religious sanctity for this false sense of safety at the hands of incompetent mortals.

    No man can protect me. Only Yahweh.

    No man can save me. Only Yeshua.

    I cannot protect myself. I cannot save myself.

    I do not delegate my salvation and safety to man.

    Halleluyah.

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    • awizard
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:25am

      Eh, V-MAN … islam is not a religion … it’s a cult, ‘nuf said.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:35am

      You’re a bigot.

      ‘Nuff said.

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    • B4B
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:51am

      Here in the USA, it’s illegal in most locales to enter a business with your face covered.
      Period.
      The reasons are obvious.
      If you don’t wish to enter under those rules, you have the right to not go in.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:00am

      That’s inside a business.

      We don‘t have to shop there if we don’t want to. Free Market Capitalism is grand, ain’t it?

      These clowns are saying the cops ought to be able to yank off facemasks when they feel like it’s inhibiting the Nazi Cops doing their “job” of illegal search and seizure…

      Umph That!

      V-MAN MACE  
    • GETLIFE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:01am

      Islam is a fundamentally undemocratic POLITICAL SYSTEM based on inequality of races and inequality of the sexes. By and large, in France the Muslim women who can no longer cover their faces in public are HAPPY about it! Kind of delicate though, because they risk being BEATEN in the privacy of their own homes if they show it!

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:37am

      The bible says don’t lust after women, and don’t commit adultery with women in your heart.

      The muslim veil reduces that sin of man by not offering that visual stimulus.

      Leave them alone.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 11:04am

      “The bible says don’t lust after women, and don’t commit adultery with women in your heart.”

      Seems to me the Bible puts the responsibility on the “luster” not the “lustee.”

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 11:20am

      Remember, Satan and his minions taught women the art of beauty using perfumes, makeup, certain colors, etc.

      You ought to thank them for preventing you from lusting after them by covering their natural beauty, and not tempting you with unnatural beauty.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 11:55am

      I get it! I FINALLY get it! Everyone should just cover up head to toe so that Muslim men will finally be able to control themselves! Oh thank you– now I can go explain to all the Muslim women I know why their husbands have a right to beat them if they don’t cover up.

      A sincere thanks to V-MAN for his expert defense of the hijab mentality. By ALL MEANS– keep it up!

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    • Furious American
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 12:08pm

      Are you saying that muslim men do not have the ability to control themselves?

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 12:13pm

      GETLIFE

      Wow, did you take that statement far enough out of context?

      It’s not just about MUSLIM men, it’s about MANKIND.

      We are a lustful people. Our every thought is sin.

      We are sinners.

      I’m not sure of the leap you made between that and domestic violence, but whatever. Perhaps.

      What you eat doesn’t move my bowels.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 12:25pm

      FURIOUS AMERICAN: No, V-MAN is saying that. I was just showing how ridiculous it would sound to agree with him/her.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 12:35pm

      GETLIFE

      I know, it’s absolutely ridiculous for me to assume that mankind are sinners.

      Golly gee Willikers, silly me.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 12:42pm

      You got me V-MAN! You win! Can’t argue with religious extremism– whatever the religion!

      You might want to take up the domestic violence issue with SHEIK, who posted the following:

      “…But let’s give a full picture of the situation, shall we? Here are some interesting news items regarding the hijab that CNN did not deem fit to print:

      Canada: Father strangles daughter after she refuses to wear hijab
      Australia: Death threats for call to remove hijab
      Taliban threatens to disfigure un-veiled women with acid
      Jihadists in Bangladesh: all women, Muslim and non-Muslim, must wear veil
      Norway: “Parents often beat their daughters into obedience and virtue and the hijab as a rule constitutes part of the control”
      Malaysia: Non-Muslims ‘must wear scarves’
      Iraq: “We warn against not wearing a headscarf and wearing makeup. Those who do not abide by this will be punished. God is our witness, we have notified you.”
      That’s just for starters. There’s more where that came from.”

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 1:44pm

      GETLIFE

      At least you’re honest about your lack of faith and comprehension in conflagrating a religious concept such as “sin” with “religious extremism”.

      As far as the domestic violence issue, only the EXTREMISTS of Islam follow Sharia Law to that degree.

      But thanks for the insight. You do know that domestic violence is something that happens in non-Sharia compliant households, right…

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:37pm

      The word is “conflation,” which cannot be changed into a verb, or “conflagration,” which also cannot be changed into a verb. No matter, I get your drift. And now I’m worried. I am neither a sinner nor lustful, yet I am spiritual. Tell me, Mr/Ms non-extremist, non-victim of the false left-right paradigm, made up V-MAN persona, how is this possible? Do I not have a right to my personal beliefs?

      On the niqab front, which IS the subject at hand, you ARE getting somewhere! Now all you have to do is use that internet connection to see just which Islamist groups want all women to cover their faces in public. Remember: “As far as the domestic violence issue, only the EXTREMISTS of Islam follow Sharia Law to that degree.”

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:55pm

      You know, I’m not perfect, I said the wrong word!.

      I can admit that!

      It was another word that starts with c, and is a synonym for confusing… um…CONFLATING!!

      HONEST MISTAKE!!

      TROLL AWAY, SPELLGRAMMARCHECKER!!!

      THAT’S YOUR NEW JOB, YA KNOW, THE MODERATORS DECLARED YOU THE FORUM‘S SPELLGRAMMARCHECKER SINCE YOU CAN’T DEFEAT ME IN DEBATE!!!

      Loser.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 3:06pm

      BTW, conflating is a verb and I used it (sic) the correct way.

      You are conflating “sin” and “religious extremism”.

      But as far as my conflating those two words, touche!

      But you digress.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 3:10pm

      GETLIFE

      If you think you aren’t a sinner, that’s your prerogative. I know I’m a sinner.

      Jesus Christ was sent to make a liar of all men.

      I know all about that “spiritualist” stuff, and I’m not even gonna attack you on that. You can have your religion.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 3:18pm

      I don’t really CARE which Islamist groups want to enforce extreme Sharia Law. I’m not Islamist, and I don’t LIVE there. It’s not coming HERE. That‘s all I’m concerned about. I live HERE. America!

      Their silly threats don’t trump the laws and constitutional rights that the Nazi Police State are already TRAMPLING over IN AMERICA!

      As far as the State passing laws to allow cops to violate religious sanctity of those who WILLINGLY wish to wear facegarb, that is a MOOT POINT! IN AMERICA!!!!

      If these Nazi Prison Guards can‘t do their jobs without violating people’s rights and religious sanctity, then they ought to FIND ANOTHER JOB!! Those entitled public servants….!

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 4:28pm

      Should have quit while you were ahead, V-MAN. Now you are just ranting and raving, and admitting to not knowing or caring about what this fake traditional veil wearing is all about….how boring! Oh well….

      I AM a stickler about vocabulary though. Especially with people who claim a 172 IQ. :D
      Anyway, sorry, but “conflagrating” is indeed the word you used:

      “At least you’re honest about your lack of faith and comprehension in conflagrating a ….”

      No worries! I am about to go and enjoy my Sunday beer and cigar, sinner that I am, apparently. Why fight it?

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 6:32pm

      GETLIFE

      You LOST this debate, brother.

      You should start shutting up from now on.

      You already admitted to not having a Christian faith, not understanding the difference between religious extremism and the concept of sin, and now you think my indifference with Extreme Sharia Law in another country that I DON’T LIVE IN has conceded debate?

      I already SCHOOLED YOU on the FACT that a lot, if not most, muslim women cover their faces WILLINGLY…such as the woman in this case… ***FAIL!!!***

      So what, I said “conflagrating” instead of “conflating”…HONEST MISTAKE!! I’m HUMAN!!! They’re SIMILAR!!!

      YOU STILL CONFLATED THE CONCEPT OF SIN WITH RELIGIOUS EXTREMISM!!!

      Do you feel GIGANTIC that that is the ONLY thing you can possibly use to claim you won this debate?

      YOU are PATHETIC!!!!

      You aren’t a “stickler” for vocabulary, you’re a obsessive, tangential, non-comprehensive nitpicker!

      You actually have the AUDACITY to ASSERT that you ARE NOT A SINNER!!!?!?!?

      ROTFLMFAO!!!! SAVE ME GETLIFE!!!

      SAVE ME, YOU HAVE SINNED NOT!!! YOU ARE JESUS!!! THE MESSIAH!!

      SAVE YOURSELF!!!

      AHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

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  • GETLIFE
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:41am

    In France a recently passed law is more coherent–people do not have the right to cover their faces in public. Of course this is mainly addressing extremist Muslim garb (contrary to popular belief, covering the entire face is a relatively recent practice associated with extremist groups).

    Have to agree with the French. Australian law enforcement is asking for trouble by making themselves have to ask. Countries have a right to maintain their cultural identity and humanist (in this case feminist) ideals.

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  • neverwrong
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:38am

    Life the veils! Don’t make us waste our time with these non-issues. matter of fact, BAN THE VEILS. Muslims- lets deal with them now not later. Hey muslims, our GOD is better than yours!!

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    • cogito ergo sum
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:27am

      Your arrogance is astounding! They have every right to exercise their religion as you do. We should not ban people from wearing crucifix, why should they be banned from wearing their veil.

      Cogito Ergo Sum

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:49am

      First they came for the Muslims…and I didn’t say anything, because I was not a muslim…

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 12:20pm

      COGITO: “Your arrogance is astounding!”
      Why don’t you do some research on the history of women and the full veil. What did the great Prophet have to say about it? Which Muslim groups are promoting it? Since when?

      Also, just who gets to interpret Islamic texts? If a religion prohibits women from voting, is it still just a religion, or is it also a political system? If a religion can order your execution because you are homosexual, is it still just a religion, or is it also a political system?

      Hint to get you started: Full veil wearing Muslim groups are the same ones promoting Sharia LAW.

      Perhaps you should live up to your pseudonym and do some research. You obviously have internet access….:)

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 12:39pm

      Cogito-

      Don’t you DARE step outside of the false left-right paradigm and think for yourself!

      You…RACE TRAITOR!!….I mean…um…You!…um…

      You ummmmmm……RELIGION TRAITOR!!…or something…

      ummmm…

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  • nomercy63
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:34am

    Some countries are starting to grow a pair!!!!!!!!

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  • Skippy Toes
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:33am

    We should be able to see who we are dealing with. I don’t get to hide my face.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:43am

      When those cowards called cops kick in your door, they sure have their faces all masked up…

      Don’t want no retribution, huh…

      These women just don’t want men lusting over their face. The cops want to hide their face like criminals while they violate you.

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  • Grasshopper42
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:29am

    Take the damned thing off when driving! It impairs visibility of the road. Drive safely, now . . . .

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    • Ed in PSL
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:11am

      I thought they were not allowed to drive? I forgot that’s only in there very tollerant native coutries.

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  • V-MAN MACE
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:26am

    Leave them alone, you Nazis.

    Let them cover their face if they want.

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    • Obama Bin Lying
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:40am

      Mace..the only reason you want them to leave the veil down is so that you can start wearing your Crypt color dew rag tied around your face to duck from the cops. Seriously…instead of us bending to meet their will, why don’t they have tollerance to our culture. Why don’t they try to assimilate into the west? I mean if they want to run around dressed like a vienna sausage, let them stay in Pakistan, saudi, Kuwait, or any other freedom denying state?

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    • streetrodder
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:43am

      Its OK to check a 90 year old grandmothers diaper but they don’t have to lift there veil.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:53am

      ROTFLMFAO!!!

      That was a good one.

      The only mask I wear is to cover my face so the Nazi cops can’t target me personally.

      The flags I fly are only two…one is red, white, and blue, and the other is yellow with a BIG SNAKE on it…

      Let these people cover their face if they want to. Stop being intolerant and demanding that people violate their religious traditions in order to assimilate into your “culture”.

      That’s the most American thing you can do. Leave people alone and let them exercize their religion freely unless it hurts you. If it doesn’t crack your head or pick your pocket, what do you care?

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:59am

      That’s the point, the cops shouldn’t be digging in diapers or demanding that people lift veils.

      We’re innocent until PROVEN guilty. That doesn‘t mean that we’re constantly under investigation by the damn Nazi Police State and have to submit to violations of our 4th Amendment rights.

      The Feds are the ones perpetrating all the false-flag terror…

      Why don’t we, the people, go LIFT UP THEIR SKIRTS SKYHIGH AND EXPOSE ALL THE ROTTEN NETHER REGIONS OF THIS RANCIDLY CORRUPT STAGNANT CESSPOOL OF LUCIFERIAN, MURDEREROUS, CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING, ROBBING, MOLESTING SABOTEURS…

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    • Obama Bin Lying
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:03am

      Mace..if you don’t break the law, then you don’t have to worry about the cops now….do you?

      Just saying

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    • Wiz001
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:03am

      What religion are you talking about.. Islam is NOT a Religion it is a CULT!!!!! When we start to treat them like they deserve to be treated (like a cult comparable but worst then the JONES TOWN CREW). Mohammad was a loser and a baby raper, what rational person would follow their rules???
      God Bless Our Troops

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:06am

      Oh yea, I know why.

      It’s easier for sheeple to ignore all the corruption of our own government and instead be little cowards and take act like we believe their lies and propaganda and focus on the big bad muslim boogeyman…

      While the TSA is getting excited while fondling breasts, buttocks, and crotches all day…

      Stealing people’s items from their luggage… jamming folk’s IPads down their pants…

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:09am

      Obama Bin Lying

      That is the WEAKEST response to TSA tyranny to date. You couldn’t even be original…

      I’m revoking your citizenship…rotfl

      Wiz001

      They probably feel the same way about Christians. You’re just another brainwashed BIGOT.

      What is your religion? Bigottry?

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    • Obama Bin Lying
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:20am

      See the problem with you mace, is I have to keep it simple for your limited intelligence to grasp. It may not be original, but it is the truth. Your hatred for Law Enforcement must come from your proffesional dealings with them.

      You can’t stand what is good for one should be good for all. When you go for your license picture, you have to show your face to have a picture taken. They don’t and hide under cultural bias…When stopped for speeding (or in your case multiple fealonies) you have to be identified with your picture, they don’t once again, hiding under cultural correctness.

      You just hate following laws, and you hate being told what to do. So you make any excuse you can to bash cops. If anyone is the biggot here it is you…..

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    • paulusmaximus
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:33am

      Are you for real, incase you haven‘t come out of your cave recently Bush isn’t the Pres. the law is from Australia. and most state require a picture ID you are stopped.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:49am

      Obama Bin Lyin

      Your childlike logic is AMUSING!

      I didn’t think someone could actually be THAT DUMB, I thought you were just acting!

      Do you realize that your stupid ramblings are all predictable responses from Police, their family members, and generally bootlicking sheep, to any criticism of the Nazi police?

      It isn’t original, or true!

      “You must have had some negative encounter with your PUBLIC SERVANTS in ordfer to draw your conclusion”….

      ROTFLMFAO!!!!

      All I have to do is do the most superficial research and I have multitudes of examples of the NAZI PIGS overstepping their boundaries time and time again, against people of ALL COLORS!

      I don’t have to have had a negative experience with them in order to draw my conclusions.

      You’re just an imbecile.

      See, in Aistrailia, they can get away with this crap, they don’t have the protections we have here. Here, they CAN’T do that crap. They don’t have a right to search and seizure without PROBABLE CAUSE.

      See, now these Nazis are trying to change those two words from “probable cause” to “reasonable suspicion” so they can violate more citizen’s rights under the guise of not being able to do their jobs without violating rights. ROTFLMAO!!!!

      Yea, I’m a “bigot” towards cops… ROTFLMFAO!!!!

      Yea, I’m intolerant towards their abuses… I don’t hate anyone, I hate their ACTIONS and the actions of their PUBLIC INSTITUTION…

      You’re a tool.

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    • awizard
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:55am

      Troll alert; V-MAN, you sound like a prog. spouting what “They” think “We Conservatives think and believe … You are not very good at it … “The muslim problem” is growing fast. They flee from their wretched impoverished country’s for a better life in successful places, then they bring their problems with them.

      It is they that need to be “culturally sensitive” … It is not up to us to “tolerate” or “change” what works for them …

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    • concealled9mms
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:25am

      they should cover there faces they are as ugly as democrap woman. hell what they do at home is fine

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 11:01am

      awizard

      I’m a Conservative Libertarian. Does that solve your malfunction?

      The Nazi Police State menace is expanding fast. They have really accelerated their roll-out.

      RESIST.

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 4:44pm

      V-man
      This BS about a melting pot is just that-BS. We need to get back to the America as she was intended. This business about letting any idiot from any country come here and not assimilate is ruining this country. Other countries STRICTYLY control their immigration numbers. Lets see you try to get into Switzerland, see how far that gets you. The fact is uncontrolled migration of people sucking the life blood out of a country has proven throughout history to destroy that country. The only people that deserve to be in the USA are Whites, Blacks, Hispanics and Asians. Everybody else are freeloaders and need to be driven out by the barrel of a gun. Especially the Muslim freaks. The only reason that they are coming here is to subvert us.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 5:05pm

      Mil-Dot

      Just what America would you like to return to?

      You would like people to come here and assimilate to the NAZI POLICE STATE we have running here?

      I don’t wish that on anybody… the US is recognized as the worst police state on earth. We have more people imprisoned here than anywhere else. The FEds have a 99% conviction rate. 99%!!!

      Do you actually believe that 99% of people are guilty????

      At this rate…it will be 100%…hell…next year or something!

      In terms of immigration, the FEDS are ALLOWING our borders to remain WIDE OPEN!!

      You said: “The only people that deserve to be in the USA are Whites, Blacks, Hispanics and Asians. Everybody else are freeloaders and need to be driven out by the barrel of a gun. Especially the Muslim freaks. The only reason that they are coming here is to subvert us.”

      If that’s REALLY how you feel, I stand against you.

      Just who the hell do you think you are, man?

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    • dragos598
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 5:35pm

      It is actually illegal in the US to walk down the street with your face hidden for safety reasons so…..

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 6:21pm

      dragos598

      It’s illegal to wear a mask in public???

      Where is that?

      Not in Ohio…

      Show me the State Law or City Ordinance…

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  • duckman1911
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:25am

    Hell yes… Im glad to see them doing something about that crap… Muslims are an infectious disease that needs to be stopped… Who cares if its percieved as anti-muslim… Protect your country from them at all costs…They should all be rounded up and shipped back to the sandbox they came from.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:34am

      Now, take the word “Muslim” and replace it with “blacks” and there you have it!!

      This guy is a frothing BIGOT!

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    • You Are All Glenns Sheep
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:41am

      @V-Man
      You can’t change Duckman1911’s comment then call him a Bigot. If he was a bigot, you would not have needed to change his comment.

      By changing his comment, you point out that his original statement was not biggity.

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    • streetrodder
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:47am

      Duckman1911. V-Man Mace figured a way to throw in the race card. Unbelievable.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:00am

      I didn’t play the “race” card. I simply used race as an analogy to display this man’s blatant bigottry towards muslims.

      Try again.

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    • Obama Bin Lying
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:10am

      Mace, now put in the word whites, and you have the New Black Pather party. See Mace, you are just the same. You can’t wait to call all people who dissagree with you, or that think differently a racist. If anyone is a racist here it is you. The more you use that word, the more you cheapen it’s meaning….There are racists everywhere, of every color. Look in a mirror and you will see what I mean. The reason you use that word so liberally is because you have nothing intelligent to say, and you can’t stand the truth.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:18am

      ObamaBinLyin

      Your strawman ***FAILS*** brother.

      I didn’t call him a racist for “disagreeing” with me. I used race to illustrate his bigottry. I called him a BIGOT. You can’t comprehend that he displayed intolerance towards muslims, can you?

      Perhaps it has something to do with your arrested development…or maybe YOU’RE a bigot too…

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:23am

      Obama Bin Lying

      I don’t disagree with you about the New Black Panther Party.

      If you think you’re hitting me where it hurts, you’re not, I don’t associate with them or subscribe to their ideology. You tried to find my weak spot, but still, you ***FAILED***, paduan.

      Your strawman ***FAILS*** again, brother. You haven‘t provided any evidence to claim that I’m a racist, you just throw out labels based on…air.

      Or perhaps based on your lack of comprehension… but definitely not based on anything in actuality.

      If I were you, I would start shutting up.

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    • Obama Bin Lying
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:24am

      See once again Mace proves I am right and that the truth strikes a nerve with him. You can’t add anything of intelligence, so you resort to calling names. I am saying what is good for one, should be good for all, that maybe you stop posting here and actually use your computer for knowledge, and get your IQ out of the single digits.

      You just prove my point.

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    • streetrodder
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:30am

      @Mace. Replace the word muslim with blacks, thats the race card. It’s getting old.

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    • Obama Bin Lying
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:07am

      Obviously I am getting to you mace, you telling me “to shut up” is proof enough. Besides the only “fail” here is you. You can disagree all you like, because you hate truth, and people here see you for the bigoted loon you are.

      You want to so badly to twist this you can’t see straight. Once again my mentally challenged friend, it is about fairness as compared to being PC. But you have to make it all about race, and it has gotten old to a point when you write anything, it just makes you look more and more like a circus clown.

      See unlike you, I will not tell you to shut up as you are entitled to your opinion no matter how idiotic. But it is funny to see you scream about rights and freedom, but you tell people to shut up when they disagree with you…..So by all means, continue. You amuse us

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:09am

      Obama Bin Lying

      Your “truth” is a joke and only exists in your delusional imagination.

      I don’t care what you say about the Panthers, I’m not a panther, and I don’t subscribe to their ideology. I’m not running around yelling “Kill Whitey!! Kill some of their babies!!” and all that silliness.

      lmfao

      You made MY point for ME… I was illustrating his bigottry towards muslims, and you offerred another good analogy- replacing “muslims” with “whites”.

      Good Job! Some of the brain cells you have left still function!

      I can’t believe you have the audacity to mention IQ after that pathetic display of debating prowess.

      How freaking hilarious. Ad Hominem attacks? Is that what you are reduced to? Or is that a step up from your idiocy?

      Streetrodder

      After all these comments, you still dwelling on my simple analogy that proves this clown’s bigottry is astounding and hilarious at the same time!

      Two words sum it up!!

      WOW!!! and AHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:47am

      Obama Bin Lying

      You aren’t “getting to me”. You CANNOT get to me.

      You’re beating your forehead against an impenetrable surface that you have ***FAILED*** to even scratch.

      I didn’t TELL you to shut up, I suggested that If I were you, I would, for your own sake, because you sound like a fool with all your ad hominem attacks and strawmen.

      But whatever floats your boat…continue!

      I will continue to thrash you in debate.

      So, where were we…oh yea. So…where is the evidence of me being a bigot? Do you have any? Anything?

      A single comment?

      So, you’re saying that, since you submit to Nazi Police harassment, that it’s only FAIR that muslim women submit also…? Hmmm?

      That sounds like what you’re saying….talking about fairness…pfft…

      I only used the black person analogy to point out one person’s bigottry, but whatever, you‘re gonna hump that strawman’s stuffing right out of him… go ahead…run it in the ground…if you repeat it enough it might magically become true…

      ***snicker***

      You’re a joke. Go back to troll debate camp.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 11:41am

      You’re idiots or thinking that my replacing religion with race as an analogy is playing the race card and that makes me a racist.

      You‘re so twisted it’s sad.

      I pity you.

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    • brado9505
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:23pm

      go ahead, replace w/blacks. nazi police? c’mon man!

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:37pm

      brado9505

      You don’t see some of the parallels between the actions of our modern day police force, the TSA, and the NAZIS?

      MCFLYYYYY ARE YOU THERE?!?!

      MCFLYYYY!!!

      lol

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    • duckman1911
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 4:50pm

      V-MAN MACE… Just another wacko RP supporter. I do agree with alot of what RP says but man he sure has some wacko followers. Its people like MACE that are doing harm to RP’s campaign. He would be doing much better if not for his followers that act only on emotion and lack the ability for logical thought. Im not saying that about all RP supporters because the good ones out weigh the bad ones but MACE is as dumb as a box of ****…

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 4:58pm

      duckman1911

      And you’re a bootlicking, hero-worshipping neocon sheep.

      People like you are doing a great deal of damage to this country with your complacent stupidity and gullibility.

      I’ve defeated your dumbazz in debate already and made you look like a fool, forcing you to act as the forum spellgrammarchecker because YOU can’t participate coherently in logical debate.

      This dummy tried to tell me the word “exercize” can’t be spelled with a “z”, and I must use an “s”, this self-important douchepuddle.

      You wish you HAD a team to stand by. NO ONE wants to associate with idiots of your level of stupidity.

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    • sodacrackers2
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 9:00pm

      @V-Man Mace, calm down deary, you are gonna have a stroke! Calling people names is not debating. You are blaming the police for what the administration is doing. Islam is a political system not a religion. If people keep tippy toeing around them pretending it is a religion, they will never stop their hateful treatment of women and children (both boys and girls,) not to mention their killing of kafirs.

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  • MaggieRose
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:23am

    Good! I agree with this law.

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    • You Are All Glenns Sheep
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:38am

      How is a police officer writing you a ticket and taking off your veil Racism? That charge makes no sense because neither action has anything to do with race.

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    • G3L
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:50am

      Great a country with some balls! Way to go Australia. Hey, Obama look at the way a true leader acts. Wake up America, screw the aclu.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:11am

      “I don’t care whether a person is wearing a motorcycle helmet, a burqa, niqab, face veil or anything else – the police should be allowed to require those people to make their identification clear,”

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:12am

      Switzerland has pretty big balls…They would arrest and prosecute Bush for war crimes…

      It doesn‘t take balls to violate people’s religious sanctity. It takes hubris, indifference, arrogance, and some other things I’m too annoyed to mention.

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    • Morris
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:14am

      America,If “WE THE PEOPLE” start to wise up,“WE THE PEOPLE” of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,WOULD NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE DAMN “MUSLIMS”,!!!!
      DEPORT ALL “MUSLIMS” ALONG WITH ALL “MEXICANS”,DEPORT ALL “MEXICANS” AND “MUSLIMS”,
      “PROBLEMS SOLVED”???????

      IMPEACH DICTATOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA,and get rid OF HIS MEXICAN-MUSLIM LOVING ADMINISTRATION!
      DICTATOR OBAMA (OUR MUSLIM -IN -CHIEF) DON’T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT “WE THE PEOPLE” THE
      AMERICAN PEOPLE,THE CITIZENS OF AMERICA!
      THE ONLY THINGS THAT DICTATOR OBAMA AND HIS CORRUPT ADMINISTRATION WORRY ABOUT
      IS HOW TO MAKE ALL 12-20 MILLION “ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS” CITIZENS OF THE USA,AND
      HOW TO BRING MORE “MUSLIMS” INTO OUR AMERICA!
      THE MUSLIMS ARE DICTATOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMAS CHOSEN PEOPLE!

      Three THINGS THAT DICTATOR OBAMA,HILLARY CLINTON,ERIC HOLDER,NANCY PELOSIE,and
      DIRTY HARRY REID ARE WORKING TO DO,TO DESTROY OUR REPUBLIC OUR AMERICA!!!!!!

      GUN CONTROL,THAT AWAY OUR GUNS,THEY WANT TO TAKE AWAY OUR 2-ND AMENDMENT!
      UN-AGENDA-21,THEY WANT TO REPLACE OUR CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
      WITH THEIR NEW UN-AGENDA-21!
      “DREAM ACT”,MAKE ALL “ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS”,AMERICAN CITIZENS,THIS ADMIN, WANTS TO SIGN UP ALL“ ” ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS” FOR ALL OF OUR ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS,
      WHAT WILL IT COST TO KEEP 12-20 MILLION :“ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS”?(HOW ABOUT $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS!!

      AMERICA, IMPEACH THIS DAMN DICTATOR, THIS MUSLIN-IN -CHIEF AND HIS CORRUPT ADMINISRTATION

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    • The_Almighty_Creestof
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:30am

      I think it is called…”You’re in OUR country now…which is now YOUR country. If you want to do things like they do in your old country…THEN GO BACK THERE!”

      I’m serious…when they get off the boat they should be handed a copy of the constitution and our dress code. It should be illegal to call your self mexican-american, african-american and so on. You’re either with us all the way or no way.

      They say “Oh but I’m a minority…I’m a minority” …well how about you join the home team and become a part of the MAJORITY…by being an AMERICAN!

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