Muslims Killing Muslims: 54 Dead After Another Attack in Pakistan

Pakistan’s Taliban has claimed responsibility for a suicide bombing yesterday that struck a rally in Quetta, Pakistan.  At least 54 people were killed in this the second major attack just this week; on Wednesday, 33 others were killed when a bomb was detonated during a Shi’ite procession in the eastern city of Lahore.

Friday‘s attack was unleashed on a Shi’ite rally meant to express solidarity among Palestinian people.  The White House was quick to condemn the attack, saying it was “even more reprehensible” having been timed to coincide with the Muslim holy month of Ramadan and amidst Pakistan’s attempts to recover from devastating flooding in the region.

Further compounding matters, the Taliban warned that it would launch attacks in the United States and Europe “very soon” in response to recent drone attacks that have targeted its leadership, Reuters reports.

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  • HEARME_NOW
    Posted on September 5, 2010 at 2:26pm

    If you truly want to know what the Muslims have in store for America, please read the book “ONE SECOND AFTER” which is the effects of
    an attack of an EMP and will occur within the next 5 to 10 years. The American people have fallen asleep and are not prepared for this and what follows. Muslims have been preparing for world domination for several thousand years and the time is now at hand. God FORBID.

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  • dteam270
    Posted on September 5, 2010 at 1:27pm

    How intolerant of the Taliban..

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  • zagfan
    Posted on September 5, 2010 at 11:39am

    Muslims killing Muslims should not shock anyone any longer. When someone straps on a bomb vest and walks into a market and blows his self up, who do you think they are killing…Other Muslims! They are savages and there are no moderate ones. They will lie to your face but if push comes to shove, you are an infidel to them and their ideology demands they kill you.

    If they follow the Koran, which they all do, it is an edict to either change you into Muslim or annihilate you. How can one be peaceful and one not when they believe the Koran? There are many places on the web to get a true education on their beliefs…read and educate yourself before you get a big surprise from a peaceful neighbor, store clerk or who ever you might think is different and peaceful.

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  • WISEPENNY
    Posted on September 5, 2010 at 10:05am

    More news and unbelieveable comments out of Pakistan: http://news.in.msn.com/international/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4337606
    The article takes 45 seconds to read, but 2 hours to get your mind to stop spinning.

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    • Large Eagle
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 8:44pm

      Wisepenny
      No need go to the link – Thanks for the update – Let’s be outrgaed before it hits FOX

      Pak Minister wants Obama to be ”leader of all Muslims”
      Islamabad, Sep 2 (PTI) A Pakistani minister wants US President Barack Obama to offer Eid prayers at Ground Zero in New York and become the “Amir-ul-Momineen” or Caliph of Muslims.

      Minister of State for Industries Ayatullah Durrani, who belongs to the ruling Pakistan People”s Party, said the upcoming Eid-ul-Fitr festival, expected to be observed on September 11, would be a “golden opportunity” for Obama to offer Eid prayers and declare himself the leader of all Muslims.

      “In this way, all the problems of the Muslim world would be solved,” Durrani told The Nation newspaper.

      Durrani, a former member of the Pakistan Ideological Council, contended that the Muslim world is in “dire need” of a Caliph and occupying this distinguished slot would provide Obama “exemplary titles” like “Mullah Barack Hussain Obama” or “Allama Obama”.

      He said: “The time is approaching fast. Barack Hussain Obama must act now. This is a golden opportunity, Muslims badly need it.”
      Obama”s elevation to the Islamic Caliphate would be the “key to success, he claimed but did not offer any explanation for his remarks.

      ”Ground Zero” is the former site of the fallen twin towers of the World Trade Center.

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  • Texas Patriot
    Posted on September 5, 2010 at 9:56am

    Yes Endstatism I wait on baited breath for the 1.6 billion Muslims (or however many there are) to fully condemn the “Few” radical Muslims who are doing all the killing. If Muslims are really a religion of “Peace” then they should police the terrorists among them.

    But that is a really big if.

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    • LesterWillox
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 10:39am

      Excuse me, sir, but I don‘t quite understand what you’re trying to say. Are you playing on the ridiculousness of 1.6 billion people making a collective apology, are you saying it‘s impossible for them to do so or are you saying they don’t want to? Or is it sarcasm? With all due respect, I honestly cannot tell.

      Also, the ones who should police terrorists of any creed are the police, a secret service or similar institutions. Anything else would be vigilantism.

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  • FoxRules
    Posted on September 5, 2010 at 9:46am

    Sad for the innocent, justice for the guilty!

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  • Endstatism
    Posted on September 5, 2010 at 9:17am

    If the American Muslims want to clear the air, they should publicly and without equivocation denounce and separate themselves from those who are violent. The imams and their supporters who oppose radicalism should call press conferences and make that well known to the American people. But I am not seeing much of that and then the Muslims wonder why people are suspicious and distrustful.

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    • LesterWillox
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 10:04am

      @endstatism

      There are many, many Muslims leaders, scholars and just regular people who distance themselves from the attacks of 9/11 or denounce them. What I find sad about it is that most people will just reply with something like “They’re Muslims, it’s in their FAITH to lie to the infidels!”

      So what can a Muslim do? If they don’t denounce it, they’re for it, if they denounce it they’re lying. It’s damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

      A (small) listing of Muslims denouncing the attacks of 9/11 and terrorism in general:

      http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

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  • Endstatism
    Posted on September 5, 2010 at 9:10am

    This is nothing new for Muslims to kill other Muslims. It is part of their long history. Not many years after the Islamic conquests, their empire fell apart in civil wars and fratricide. The Shia and Sunni rift dates back to the early days of Islam.

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  • Joseph
    Posted on September 5, 2010 at 9:10am

    This is truley a religion of Peace. Yes bridges must be built, but it would serve the Musilm cause better to build them in their own countries…Homicide bombers will go to heaven and get their 72 white raisins and be happy.

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  • pinnybogg
    Posted on September 5, 2010 at 8:02am

    HMMMMM THEY DO THINGS AT THEIR RALLIES THAT WE NEVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT TO DO AT RESTORING HONOR RALLY HMMMMMMMMMMM

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  • 596signalco
    Posted on September 5, 2010 at 6:33am

    Good luck with that “peace” process…

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  • Beck23
    Posted on September 5, 2010 at 1:04am

    I agree, I don’t get why we didnt stop this a long time ago. 9/11 should’ve never happend Bush practically let it happen, and i know this isn‘t much on topic but my point is that we could’ve had Al queda mostly out of the picture by taking Osama out while we had the chance, but when a president gets into office they don‘t want to look at what the guy before him did because they want to look good but the fact is that they need to see what they did right and then look at what they did wrong and improve and that is what most presidents don’t do. Then we get something like this, where is our military in this what is our tax dollars going towards when we could be making improvements instead of more “casualties”.

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    • LesterWillox
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 9:56am

      @endstatism

      There are many, many Muslims leaders, scholars and just regular people who distance themselves from the attacks of 9/11 or denounce them. What I find sad about it is that most people will just reply with something like “They’re Muslims, it’s in their FAITH to lie to the infidels!”

      So what can a Muslim do? If they don’t denounce it, they’re for it, if they denounce it they’re lying. It’s damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

      A (small) listing of Muslims denouncing the attacks of 9/11 and terrorism in general:

      http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

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    • LesterWillox
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 10:05am

      Whoops, must’ve hit the wrong reply button. My bad!

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    • smartypoop
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:28pm

      Lesterwilcox, you make a valid point about Muslims being dammed if they do/don’t, however you’re not giving Americans much credit are you. A passionate condemnation of violence goes along way, even when you have a nagging doubt. It would reach more people than it would be dismissed by. Things like this are really just a small portion of the evaluation pie. I, like many others took the Islamic in stride, until the imposition of shiria government and intolerance began to prevail.

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    • LesterWillox
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:58pm

      >Lesterwilcox, you make a valid point about Muslims being dammed if they do/don’t, however you’re not giving Americans much credit are you.

      First off, thanks for the compliment. It’s Willox by the way, but I get that all the time. Also, I didn’t mean to come off as condescending or even insulting. It’s just that I read the reason for not trusting Muslims that I brought up in my comment so often I just had to mention it here. I must say, the first time I heard it I just sat there dumbfounded, unable to make up a response that could be considered moderate and respectful.

      >A passionate condemnation of violence goes along way, even when you have a nagging doubt. It would reach more people than it would be dismissed by.

      There are condemnations (how passionate each of them is I cannot say) in the link in my comment above. The problem I see is that they won’t ever reach anyone. Nobody is bringing them out into the public and I wouldn’t know how to change that. There was a Muslim peace march in Austin, TX last year, but it got little to no publicity. There also was one in London, with twenty-thousand people participating but again.. no publicity. It appears that “Muslims march for peace” isn’t a headline people would care about.

      >Things like this are really just a small portion of the evaluation pie. I, like many others took the Islamic in stride, until the imposition of shiria government and intolerance began to prevail.

      I don’t believe that the United States of America will EVER see the Constitution replaced by Sharia law, I just can’t make up a plausible scenario where that could happen. Any politician who would dare touch that would commit political suicide.

      I do have a question though, which intolerance are you speaking of specifically? It‘s just too general a term for me to comment on and it’d be kind of you to clarify.

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    • Large Eagle
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 8:30pm

      Let‘s thank Al Gore when he chastized Colnel North in the hearings about Osama and blew off the colonel’s comments about the maniac Bin Laden. Great story if anyone is interested in researching on your own as Professor Beck suggest.

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  • LEGION
    Posted on September 5, 2010 at 12:52am

    There are some muslims who have spoken out against it, but the lame stream media doesn’t cover them. I’ve seen a some of them on Fox of course but they are few and far between. They are afraid they will get killed if they speak out. The violent wing of muslims are like the Mafia. It takes fortitude to speak out and they don’t have it for the most part. If 1% are violent out of a billion muslims that is still 10 million crazies out there.

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  • Beck23
    Posted on September 5, 2010 at 12:46am

    I think what God would want us to do is to pray for them…Isn’t that what christianity is about, not about violence but love and forgivness. This is what our God would want no matter what their religion is or gender or race, because in a way they are all like us because we all have problems whether you would like to admit it or not but luckily Jesus died to forgive our sins and we should love these people not hate. Just pray isn’t that what Glenn Beck would say soon our prayers will come true and we can have peace.

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  • C_Era
    Posted on September 4, 2010 at 10:48pm

    No way?!? Violence from those people is unheard of! I refuse to believe it.\

    Oh wait. . .

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  • Photo
    Posted on September 4, 2010 at 9:40pm

    Islam is not even a legit religion. Its a cult of hatred. Look at these savages. How are we supposed to turn them into civilized nations when they havent done it on their own for thousands of years?

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  • DeadFred
    Posted on September 4, 2010 at 8:08pm

    I’m NOT trying hard to understand Islam. I already know they are defeated…they do not worship the one true God….they are not a religion of even peace. Get down on your knees and ask the one true God to reveal the evil that Islam embodies. He will do that for you…and then the TRUTH shall set you on the right understanding. All that parades as “spiritual” is not. Even Satan fears God.

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    • walkwithme1966
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 8:23pm

      How do you know that Muslims and Christians aren’t worshipping the same God? There is only one God but many paths to get to him. They go thru Mohammhad and we go thru Jesus Christ. But isn’t it eventually the same God?

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  • snuffymd
    Posted on September 4, 2010 at 7:53pm

    It would be more practical if suicide bombers would all get into one room, shout “Allah Acbar” and blow themselves up. To do so would serve the same purpose.

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  • ezdoesit
    Posted on September 4, 2010 at 7:47pm

    I am trying my best to be open minded about Islam. however, if more of the “silent but truly non-violent” members of this religion do not step forward and speak out (against the violent extremists they claim are not representative of their religion) SOON, do not be surprised if you find few Americans supportive of having you here. Muslims in America are allowing Islam extremists to be the only voice Americans hear so pray explain why we should believe you, as an American muslim, do not also share their (extremists) view? If you won’t even speak out you invite scenes like this to continue in the name of your religion? Do you really want that? Sadly to date I have only heard 2 “TWO” muslims speak out against the extremists… I was taught long ago that ‘silence’ is always perceived as just another form of agreement.

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    • smartypoop
      Posted on September 4, 2010 at 9:15pm

      I agree there. If your not speaking out against it, your for it. I remember only one Muslim Imam speaking out against 9-11. It seemed like he was sorry it happened, but not outraged or condeming it.
      They’ve made a lot of headway, I was reading an article in the Atlanta Journal (?) the other day, I wish I could remember the authors name. The article addressed alot of issues but the bottom like was along the lines of; there are very few moderate Islamics left, the radicals have taken over and are determined to dominate by any means. Kind of like the progressives and the Democratic party.

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    • lovemysoldier
      Posted on September 4, 2010 at 9:48pm

      I know how you feel. I have little to no understanding of Islam, or why is seems to spawn so many violent extremists. Then again, the Muslim people that I DO know seem to be great people who wouldn’t harm a hair on my head. Seeing as how this is the example that I personally observe in my every day life, that’s the view I choose to take on the people of that faith as a whole. 9/11 made me angry… really really really ANGRY, but my heart tells me that everybody of that religion is just an individual like you or me. Billions of people can’t all be murderous zealots out to infiltrate every corner of the globe. That just doesn’t make sense! Having said all that, I’m still really conflicted on the Mosque near Ground Zero. Not a big fan at all. Dang, y’all. I have to say, I’m a Christian, and sometimes the Holy Spirit gives me a headache. *wink*. Probably would be easier to fear and hate, but God just won’t let me get away with it.

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    • smartypoop
      Posted on September 4, 2010 at 10:02pm

      Lovemysoldier- while I agree that every religion has its extremists and generally I agree that many Muslims choose to live by the peaceful passages of the Koran, there are just as many that don’t. I asked a person of Muslim practice (whom I always believed to be a peaceful moderate), how far would she and her family go to defend their faith. I was told that they would do as instructed by Allah, just like Christians would go as far as they were instructed to by their God. Frankly, I was pretty shaken by that response. We have a rather large Muslim population where I live. I have to admit, between the frank discussions that I had with my Muslim acquaintances and the 911 mosque issue, I have altered my tolerance scale considerably.

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    • lovemysoldier
      Posted on September 4, 2010 at 10:21pm

      Smarty: Hmmm. Again, I understand, logically, that it really is kinda’ scary. I would never “believe” that the God I know would ever ask me to kill anybody to defend his name or purpose. That part of Islam is a mystery to me. I guess the question is how do we know where the line is for some people… and I suppose that could be applied to anybody of any religion. Crazy is definitely not exclusive. How do we maintain a tolerant society but still be honest enough to skip the PC crap that keeps us from really talking to each other about how we feel. Kudos to your for having a dialouge with real people instead of just watching TV and wringing your hands!

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    • smartypoop
      Posted on September 4, 2010 at 11:17pm

      Love my soldier- therein lies the rub. I would agree that my God would never condone violence as a means to an end and that love of God is a matter of your path to him, however having said that, I suppose we have to evaluate Islam as we would any other religion thru the ages. By critical evaluation, and if violent or intolerant, ultimately by rejection. Mormons (insert any religion here) may believe that they are the one true religion, but they do not plan on your extermination as a result of a different faith or path to God. While being tolerant of religion we must guard against the extremists who will destroy all others. Just like politicians who would become tyrants. There are no easy measures or evaluations, but certainly, it begins with a cold, hard, honest look at the overall desires and agendas of the primaries in power. I would say the big tip-off would be when another religion says my way or the highway, and has a historical pattern of violence as a means to an end.

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    • lovemysoldier
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 1:12am

      Smarty: Agreed. By all means, we should all ask the hard questions, give voice to our concerns, stay vigilant and yet still be tolerant and stick to what the Constitution tells us. It’s going to be a really bumpy ride, and we can’t expect any help from the left. Sigh.

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    • Large Eagle
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 12:25pm

      I am with you EZEDOESIT
      When the Muslims showed up outside the court where a terrorist was being arraigned everyone thought they where in protest. It turned out that their leader made a public statement as the camera man zoomed in on him. He said: “I condemn all the jihads and he didn’t care what their names were. Be it Hamas, Al-Qaida it didn’t matter. Then he put his index finger on his fore head and told the people watching the news that night – that if the terrorist wanted a target then let it be right here.” Then he said: “Come I am waiting”

      If every Muslim Organizations that are making these you tubes videos – trying to convinced us that they don’t want to take over our country – would claim that exact condemnation of the terrorist groups then I’d let them put a Mosque in my back yard. Then he an I would stand shoulder to shoulder and wait.

      These people know if they speak out they would disappear like rats – not in mass killings like they try to do to us – but one at a time within their own communities – by their neighbors who are the real cells that have infiltrated our society since the early 90’s – whether it is Michigan, South Carolina or Fort Hood.

      I pray for their courage to stand up if they are sincere – that would change my mind.

      If the Muslims had the courage that I witnessed at 8-28 by Aveda King, Glenn and his crew then there would be a healing of our hearts.

      Be Blessed – Power to Prosper

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    • Silversmith
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 1:24pm

      @ smartypoop and lovemysoldier — I really think the dilemma here is that while Islam is religious, it is also a form of government, one that gets it’s mandate from Allah, or a Theocracy. This blurs a lot of things in the name of God. The separation of church and state is one of the smartest things the founders could have installed. People can get pretty heated about religion. If you tack governmental powers to that righteousness, it becomes wild, unpredictable and dangerous to the citizenry. All you have to do is disagree and you are incarcerated or worse.

      The blurring of terms and semantics is the cornerstone of the ideologies aligned against America. Make no mistake, this is not an inditement on all muslims any more than all the investors of Enron are guilty of that companies crimes. Most of any organization is made up of just folks trying to live their lives. But until we acknowledge the nature of the Islamic movement as a competing governmental structure within our boarders, we will be at risk. And if you think the Federal Government is intrusive, just look at how people live in countries controlled by Sharia law.

      Silversmith

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  • RoseAnnaDanna
    Posted on September 4, 2010 at 7:35pm

    There is a Sharia College opening in CA. http://bit.ly/8X6gLz IMO, they are moving quickly now.

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  • smartypoop
    Posted on September 4, 2010 at 6:27pm

    And this is the hate we are supposed to embrace and be tolerant of? Saneromeo- I think your right, the progressives who have licked thier boots and put muslim freedoms above American freedoms will be the first to go should they ever take power.
    Kind of brings to mind the question; If you would die by the hands of those who would enslave you anyway, why wouldnt you fight to the death to defeat them?

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  • Photo
    Posted on September 4, 2010 at 6:08pm

    I dont know what we are thinking fighting wars to nation build. Its a horrible strategy. I dont doubt the good intentions of the USA but it is seriously like trying to train barbarians to act civilized. A noble cause I suppose, but how many more American lives are worth the task of helping a people who cant be helped? Its time to get out or change the rules of engagement.

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  • slwolfgram
    Posted on September 4, 2010 at 5:43pm

    Had a question asked in a recent email…Can Muslims be Good Americans?
    I liken them (Muslims) to the old pipes that broke under my house. It first started with just a drip that no one noticed and then another one until they broke and caused a lake under the house. Some of them might be peaceful and it is only because they are not following their written law or it is the master plan to not get anyone too suspicious so just play nice until the time comes to make their move. In my opinion they are not to be trusted therefore they cannot be Good Americans.
    They have slowly infiltrated this country and just like a leaky old pipe no one noticed. Because we are peaceful people we never objected and only became really aware of them after 9/11. By that time we were amazed to see how many of them were actually here and then they started their screaming about being persecuted because they were Muslim or they were being profiled and that evolved into political correctness that has virtually tied the hands of the American people and law enforcement. Then enter stage left Obama and we know that it was all down hill from there. Maybe he didn’t think in those terms of Sharia law but I find it hard to believe that a man as seemingly well educated as he is could be that naive. BUT GOD has different plans in mind for His children and His country. What we witnessed on 8/28 is the beginning of the third Great Awakening that this country has seen. Like Glenn Beck said get on your knees and get the sin out of your life and God will be able to do amazing things. We are about to see miracles, signs and wonders that will boggle our mind if we continue to walk by faith and not by sight.

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    • prayqday
      Posted on September 4, 2010 at 6:15pm

      Amen, God is going to pour out His Spirit in these last days as spoken in Joel. For those that believe it is going to happen, and for those that do not it is still going to happen. God is still God and His Word is true and never lies. Wake up and get ready there is a change coming and nobody will get the glory or honor but Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. I was there also 8/28 Christians have a voice and will no longer remain silent.

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    • LesterWillox
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 8:40am

      @SLWOLFGRAM

      Had a question asked in a recent mail…Can [Jews] be Good [Germans]?
      I liken them ([Jews]) to the old pipes that broke under my house. It first started with just a drip that no one noticed and then another one until they broke and caused a lake under the house. Some of them might be peaceful and it is only because they are not following their written law or it is the master plan to not get anyone too suspicious so just play nice until the time comes to make their move. In my opinion they are not to be trusted therefore they cannot be Good [Germans].
      They have slowly infiltrated this country and just like a leaky old pipe no one noticed. Because we are peaceful people we never objected and only became really aware of them after [they made us lose World War I]. By that time we were amazed to see how many of them were actually here and then they started their screaming about being persecuted because they were [Jews] or they were being profiled and that evolved into political correctness that has virtually tied the hands of the [German] people and law enforcement. Then enter stage left [the Bolsheviks] and we know that it was all down hill from there…

      Just a heads up there. Because you’re generalizing millions of Americans of Muslim faith here. And that’s a dangerous path to walk.

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    • LesterWillox
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 9:36am

      @Findkeytothetruth

      Neither did “The Muslims”. You cannot collectively condemn 1.6 BILLION people, a quarter of the population of earth, for what a few dozen did.

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    • WISEPENNY
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 10:10am

      Signs and wonders will be fine, but they better be done in the name of Jesus Christ when they are performed. If they are done in the name of a “god of all faiths and paths”, BEWARE!

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    • LesterWillox
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 11:21am

      You’re expecting ALL Muslims in the world to march for peace, man, woman, child and elder? Really?

      You don’t see how that could possibly be thought of as “demanding the impossible” or “ridiculous”? By the way, why should they? Except for an incredibly small percentage, they didn’t do anything. And there’s no one person to lead them anyway, since they have no leading political or religious figure to speak for all Muslims.

      In a post further down I posted this link: http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php
      It’s full of Muslims from all parts of society condemning the attacks of 9/11 and terrorism in general, speaking out their sympathy or regrets. Maybe that counts for something to you, at least.

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    • LesterWillox
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 12:57pm

      >Hey LesterWillox,

      Hey.

      >You took me literally on the 1.4 billion Muslims marching for peace but you did that intentionally to blow off my question as ridiculous. OK let rephrase the question.

      I’m sorry, but I can only work with what you give me. It’s hard to convey intentional hyperbole over the Internet, so mostly I have to take things I read at face value. But alright, moving on…

      >Have “The Muslims” ever had a march for peace?

      Yes. More on that in a moment.

      >I know you stated Muslims don’t need to because they are so peaceful and have nothing to do with the muslim violence we see every day (like the article we are both responding to).

      I didn’t say that. What I said is that it would be wrong to say that all Muslims are guilty of 9/11 or that all Muslims are guilty of the violence we see so often in the News. I specifically said “No Muslims except for an incredibly small percentage (paraphrased)”. Terrorists are a fringe minority. It’s a percent of a percent. It’s a grain of sand on the beach. Besides, the article was about Muslims killing Muslims. They are not one monolithic entity bent on the destruction of the US. Do you think every Muslim man, woman or child wakes up every morning with “How do I destroy the US today?” being the single thought in their minds?

      We’re talking about 1.600.000.000 (or 1.4 Billion, the numbers are between 1.2 and 1.6 Billion in most reports) people here. What percentage of them do you think are terrorists? What percentage of them do you think have killed another man or will do so?

      >I know you would like us to believe that there are only a “few dozen” Muslims that are causing all the problems but I don’t buy it.

      That is your opinion to which you have every right. But don‘t you think that we’d hear about terrorist acts a little more often if even a single percent of Muslims would partake in them?

      >But with 1.4 billion Muslim people there should have been at least one peaceful march. If not a few dozen

      I’m not going to spoil your fun of using Google, but I’ll post this link again, a small selection of Muslims speaking out against terror: http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

      And there was a Muslim peace march in 2009, held in Austin, TX: http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2009/09/28/86328.html or in London http://www.wilayahnetwork.com/news/?id=9666

      These things happen. It’s just that they get little to no air time in the media.

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    • LesterWillox
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 1:14pm

      I am aware of that protest march. You should, however, read the link you yourself posted to see that the march was immediately denounced by the Chairman of the Muslim Public Affairs committee of London, Asghar Bukhari.

      And let me reiterate: Those are extremists. Like Neo-Nazis, like the Westboro Baptist Church, like the Ku Klux Klan. I still stand by my opinion that it would be wrong to condemn all Germans, Americans or Christians for the acts of fringe minorities. And neither will I condemn all Muslims.

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    • JusticeBlaze
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 1:44pm

      findkeytothetruth,

      Do you have any idea what you just said? You just insinuated that if 20 Jewish people would have flown a plane into a German building in 1920-something, then Hitler would have been justified in his treatment and attempted genocide of Jewish people. I would say that you have strong racist-like tendencies.

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    • LesterWillox
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 2:09pm

      >Hey LesterWillox,

      Hey.

      >Nice try. You can give numbers and percentages all you want but the bottom line is the vast majority of violence in the world is Muslim related.

      What, specifically, do you mean by “violence”? The majority of (intentional) violence in the world is crime related. More people are murdered around the world every day than died on 9/11. Then there are warlords in Africa, crime lords in south America and Russia. Pirates. Slavers. Then there are those wars we’re not totally uninvolved in.

      I’d say that an almost vanishingly small part of violence in the world is Muslim related. Some of the perpetrators may be Muslim, but it’d be a stretch to say that their driving force was their religion and not greed, lust for power or simply hunger.

      Or do you mean “terrorism”? Even there Muslims don’t make up a majority. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2009

      Also, it is considered good form to back up your claims in a discussion. And usually the burden of proof lies on the shoulders of those who make a claim.

      >What other people of religion are flying planes into buildings and killing innocent people by blowing themselves up in crowds.

      Flying planes into buildings was a pretty unique thing, I give you that. But killing innocent people by blowing themselves up? There are a LOT:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2009 (Wikipedia. The numbers are referenced at the bottom of the page)

      There are maniacs everywhere. Unstable countries make for unstable people. That’s not new.

      >You have an lame excuses for everything. You, my friend, are in a state of denial.

      That is, once again, your opinion to which you have every right.

      >And who said ALL Muslims are bad?

      Nobody did. But there sure are a lot of people who think they are at fault for many things that they’re not. But if we can agree on not all Muslims being bad, maybe you can be convinced that in actuality, only very few are.

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    • LesterWillox
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 2:14pm

      @justiceblaze

      It’s quite clear I disagree with findkeytothetruth on some pretty basic principles, but where did he insinuate something like that? I can’t see how he says that all Muslims in America should be executed.

      Or did I just overlook something?

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    • LesterWillox
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 3:33pm

      Findkeytothetruth, I left you a longer comment on Page 2, I missed this one.

      And (short and sweet) I‘m not saying everyone who’s a Muslim is a good little lamb. The Taliban and several political leaders of Muslim nations are anything but. But hate where it’s due. Please don‘t hate the regular guy who just wants to live a quiet life in our good ol’ USA. By god, he has it difficult enough nowadays.

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    • JusticeBlaze
      Posted on September 6, 2010 at 12:36am

      Of course you wouldn’t support genocide. That’s obvious. What’s not so obvious is the “leaky pipe” description of muslims in America. It sounds exactly like Hitler rhetoric towards Jewish people, and after this parallel was highlighted you said there was a difference, and in doing so insinuated that if there were some Jewish Al-Qaeda, then Hitler’s rhetoric would have been justified. I’m not trying to distort, deceit, or intimidate, but I am worried when I read Hitler-like rhetoric towards muslim people. Making generalizations about muslim people as violent, is the same as saying all black people steal, or some other racial generalization that at its base is rooted in the sentiment of one race being superior to another, and that is just a bad route to go down and I think the term for it is racism. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

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    • Stupid Windmill
      Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:25am

      Replace the word Muslim with Communist.

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  • dollfin
    Posted on September 4, 2010 at 5:42pm

    Let’s erect a Christian church on the the grounds of this latest violence! Think they’d mind? Imagine, more violence from Muslims…..Just makes me wonder what’s gotten into those folks!

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    • HEARME_NOW
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 2:08pm

      If you want to know what the Muslims have in store for America please read the book “ONE SECOND AFTER” when they hit us with the EMP. It will happen in the next 10 years which will come out of Iran with the help of North Korea.

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  • saneromeo
    Posted on September 4, 2010 at 5:38pm

    Is this the same Taliban that needs to be recognized as a government entity? Or the one that helped plan 9/11? Radical Muslims and Progressives are playing on the same side for the same ends. It’s not about helping special interest groups (for the libs) or members of their religion (for the Taliban) but for the attainment of personal power. Both groups use fear, intimidation, and then violence to achieve their ends, but the biggest joke is what will happen if the two groups do win…I’m pretty sure that those in the special interests groups will be the first targets of the Taliban….Thank God they never will win…

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    • boydboyd
      Posted on September 5, 2010 at 3:19am

      The Progressives and the Pan-Islamic Jihadists are all powerlusting Anti-Americans. The enemy of their enemy being their totalitatrian comrade.

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    • Stupid Windmill
      Posted on September 13, 2010 at 2:24am

      WHAT THE HELL are you guys talking about?

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