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N.Y. Man Dies in Gym Fight After Police Used Tasers

N.Y. Man Chad Troy Dies in Gym Fight After Police Used TasersCOLONIE, N.Y. (The Blaze/AP) — A burly, incoherent 32-year-old man who rampaged through an upstate New York gym died after going into cardiac arrest when he was repeatedly shocked with stun guns during a struggle with three officers, police said Monday.

Colonie Police Chief Steven Heider said Chad Brothers of Troy had gone to the Gold’s Gym in the Albany suburb just before 6 a.m. and was described by witnesses as “annoying” and in a “highly escalated mood.”

“He was mumbling things,” Heider said. “We’re not too sure what the mumblings were.”

Soon after arriving, Brothers fell off an elliptical machine, turned up the speed on another patron’s treadmill and then punched him in the face. He started toppling 700-pound training machines and throwing 45-pound free weights around the gym filled with about 30 clients and staff.

“It was a rage, that’s what it was described as,” Heider said.

Brothers, who was a muscular 6-foot-1 and weighed between 225 and 240 pounds, went on to destroy a showcase and entered an office where he threw around equipment, including computers, the chief said.

That was when the first officer on the scene, a woman, confronted Brothers and told him to get on the ground and show his hands. At some point, Brothers threw some boxes at the officer and she knocked him down with a stun-gun jolt just before 6:30 a.m.

Heider said that while the officer was trying to cuff Brothers, he stood up with her on his back, was shocked again and then got hold of the Taser, apparently triggering another jolt himself. Two other officers jumped in and used their Tasers in stun mode at least twice and one of the officers hit Brothers with a plastic baton.

“This was a whirlwind of a battle in a confined area,” Heider said. Two wired prongs fired from the first stun gun were embedded in Brothers’ chest and thigh, while the other officers used the hand-held devices in “stun mode” directly against his body.

Brothers went into cardiac arrest shortly after he was subdued with the help of two or three patrons. An off-duty EMT performed CPR while an ambulance was called. Brothers died shortly after arriving at Albany Medical Center at about 7:15 a.m. Heider said information was still being downloaded from the stun guns to determine the precise number of shocks.

The patron who was punched was bruised and the two male officers had minor injuries. None of them required medical attention.

Asked if he believed steroid use might have been involved, Heider said it wasn‘t clear what was behind Brother’s actions or what caused his death. An autopsy scheduled for Tuesday morning will include toxicology screens for steroids and other drugs. Police were getting a warrant Monday to search his apartment.

Heider said he believed his officers acted properly, but the use of force will be reviewed.

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  • sundance_sp
    Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:24am

    Women should be taking care of the homefront! Not in situations like this! I’ll be shocked if the blog nazis allow this in…. What the heck,, I guess we’ll see….

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  • sundance_sp
    Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:22am

    I know most others are thinking this, so i’m going to say it… This is a good example why we shouldn’t allow female cops or firefighters for that matter. In the name of feminism, we continue to put our women, who seem to have something to prove, in harms way and innocent people, ok, and some guilty ones also,,, but needlessly, die. When are we going to wake up and shove feminism back into it’s dirty hole that where it belongs. Women have a great deal more power as it is, where it should be, in the home, and in the public… but not in roles that put them at risk, and others too. Let the men take the danger. It’s our role! Eh, for what it’s worth…

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    • rdietz7
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 4:43am

      Whatever dude. I give those female officers credit. If I was in her situation I would have just shot the guy with a bullet in his torso. Better crazy dude dead than an officer with damaged vertebrae or the perps bodily fluids spraying them in the face.

      7.5 billion minus one knuckle head. Who cares.

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    • DCxRexon
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 6:33am

      Oh Sundance…idiots like you are why we need police. This guy was clearly hopped up on something. Google “excited delirium” then sit in the corner and remember that you are still far from educated enough to speak. Yes Sundance, about anything. Damn sheep.

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    • PingPongPing
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 6:53am

      explain female nurses…..

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    • loriann12
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 6:58am

      Believe it or not, I (as a woman) tried to make the police force back in the early 90′s. Did you know that there are different requirements for men and women? For my age bracket at the time, I had to lift (I think, it’s been a while) 50% of my body weight, which at the time was 140 pounds. Men had to lift more like 70% of their body weight. That 220-240 pound man doesn’t care if you are a woman cop, and could pass the physical with lower requirements. I think the requirements should be the same. It’s bad enough that the average woman weighs less than the average man. That said, IF a woman could pass the same restrictions, I’d be all for her being a cop. Equal rights means you don’t have priveledges (like lower standards to get in) – it means everything is equal and sex doesn’t enter the equation.

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    • Longshot35
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 8:31am

      I used to be a police officer. Women make great police officers. And yes this sounds exactly like excited delirium and it is most likely related to hard drug use. The tazer did not kill this manl like the title suggests.

      PS. Atleast in WA state the physical requirements are the same for men and women.

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    • Servant Of YHVH
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 8:36am

      @rdietz7
      I agree fully! Sounds like that guy could have done the same thing to a male officer. I’ve seen women cops that could kick the tail of most of the other officers in their department. It doesn’t matter if it is male of female, there will always be someone who can “take them on” and win “man to man”. This story has absolutely nothing to do with the police being male or female. I’m a strong believer in protecting women but I also know that if the woman wants to do it, the more power to them. This was a good takedown on the perp and I say “Well Done” to the officers involved in the incident.

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    • IntegrityFirst08
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 8:52am

      Agreed, I didnt see this article as being about a female cop. They are great where I work. With tools like taser, OC, and Glock, as the basic tools you have on your belt. Why should a woman ever have to let it get so far as to where she was in a man to woman fight. Taser is a great tool and surprisingly most departments use of force policies allow for its use early in the stages.

      I think longshot is correct that there is something about the guy like drug use thats not being explained here.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 10:04am

      This stun-gun-death crap has gotta cease.

      They need to learn some wrestling and restraint techniques and stop always trying to use technology to make their job easier. If the stun gun is incapable of incapacitating a person without causing cardiac arrest, then it should NOT be used.

      If several tasers and stun guns are needed, then neuromuscular incapacitation is ineffective. Try something else. Like physical restraint by BIG strong MEN, not women.

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    • JMorcan
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 1:13pm

      Yet another unnecessary stun gun death. The risks are known; officers who do this to someone not carrying a weapon commit murder.

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    • IntegrityFirst08
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 6:11pm

      @ Morgan – haha thats sounds reasonable. Put an officer on trial for murder for using a less than lethal method to subdue a subject. Good idea, you must be in the buisness of wating tax payer dollars. Where are your studies from reliable sources that say taser causes these deaths. I want held up in court cases not your liberal BS police brutality cases. If taser cause cardiac arrest they WOULD NOT BE USING THEM.

      So Vman mace the self proclaimed police hater wants cops to get into Physical confrontations with poeple and cease the use of self defense becausehe thinks cops should walk around as big billy badass. You are so contradicting its not funny. I have seen your video and most of your posts because you are the posterchild of hipocracy. You tout police nazi state and brutality but yet you want ” Like physical restraint by BIG strong MEN, not women.” Would you cry more when you got the asswhoopin then rather than taser??? Probably….

      Taser was deployed more than once because the subject was able to get the gun away from the female cop. I would have shot him again with taser also. This is absolutly nanny state thinking by these 2 idiots.

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    • Jezreel
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 8:32pm

      You are absolutely correct. Women have no business being in jobs that require brut strength. God put it into the heart of man to be the protecter and the hunter. The left liberal agenda has for years, spawned young boys and men to be docile and cowards. Women are the weaker vessel. They are not unequal, they are just built differently and put together differently and anybody who argues that fact has been brainwashed by modern liberal left propaganda. Women today are brainwashed to be career people and they have become horrible homemakers and cooks. No wonder men leave them and vice versa because reversing roles has caused great confusion.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on November 2, 2011 at 5:02pm

      I‘m being censored from responding to the Bootlicker’s ad hominem attacks.

      Must be an editor or moderator posing as a regular person.

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  • ballsofFe
    Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:39am

    Been to a gym lately? With some of the screwballs you see working out, I am surprised we don’t hear more stories like this.

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    • Public Enema
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 10:00am

      I go to the gym all the time. Yeah there are some big dudes, I being one of them. So with your comment because guys like me train and eat right and are bigger than the average person then there is something wrong? What a D bag! I can only suggest that you go to the gym because I am sure you are one of THOSE PEOPLE who get on a treadmill because that is all you know how to do and put in a little time, and continue to look the same as you did a year ago, Overweight or too skinny and the only way you can make your self feel better about your fatness is to make fun of every guy in shape and say “oh he is on steroids”. Nothing upsets me more than people like that. Well there are some but this is on the list. LIFT HARD.

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    • oldschoolgreen
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 1:39pm

      Public Enema
      Dang dude he wasn’t saying everyone at the gym is a screwball. Little touchy are we? Isn’t that one of the signs someone is using steroids? Mood swings and fits of anger? Hmmm…..

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    • Public Enema
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:20pm

      what ever d bag…i have no prob calling a douche a douche …..douche….honestly green??? and i know some fellas that are….cops, teachers, bankers military….so limp dk know something first.

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    • neocon1
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 2:55pm

      green
      wow old ENEMA….LOL
      typical in your face tough guy with a 50 chest and 2 hat.
      Every body is a Dbag or Dhead if you do not agree with mr muscle head, and he will kick your azz to prove it.
      I know many like him and the one who rampaged.
      Act like an animal get shot like a dog and PS superman your bif Fn muscles done even begin to compete with a .45 ACP

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    • Public Enema
      Posted on November 2, 2011 at 1:05am

      Neo Con…. I got ur typical right here…and being an active card carrying member that works and supports candidates, it is u my son that poses…it makes me gag to see all the talkers like you ,,,,u sheep….come out to vote and act like ur part of group….there are doners, volunteers and voters…u my friend are a voter…when was the last time u walked for a candidate answered phones or participated in govt….u dont ….ur sheep who think that you have the magic bullet that would fix everything…I run into guys like u all the time..u come in and talk and vent and say ur gonna do something to help the candidate or that you hate some policy but after u leave ur conviction comes up short much like your life potential….you are a sad little person with no understanding of a muscule subculture and yes sweetheart…i stay armed because there is nothing scarier than a small man like ur self with a 45 to make up for something….except someone like u with a complex….u make me smile knowing that ur convictions just stop at voting and yelling at the TV or sitting in a pub over beers and talking like ur the smartest guy there…u tiny child u make me giggle.

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  • oldschoolgreen
    Posted on November 1, 2011 at 1:55am

    Drugs and Tasers. Sounds like a heck of a battle. Props to the chick cop that didn’t back down. I know lots of dudes who would have.

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  • jason1974
    Posted on November 1, 2011 at 1:33am

    sounds like he was high on meth or PCP. sad that he died, but what can you do? they had to make him stop!

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 1:46am

      No..the guy was probably doing steroids.

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 7:56am

      Sorry, steroids do not make you go into a rage. Regardless of what the msm tells you. They are absorbed slowly, and are NATURALLY occurring. If “roids” did that, every teenage boy would act like this.

      No, what we will find is other drugs that caused this fit. Could he have used or abused steroids? Sure, but they were not the cause of this.

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  • DocZ
    Posted on November 1, 2011 at 12:16am

    Didn’t read it all but was just put out. I know NYCLU I’ll take it with a grain of salt.
    http://www.nyclu.org/files/publications/nyclu_TaserFinal.pdf

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  • Infidel49
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:31pm

    Don’t do drugs

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  • SCARY313568
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:55pm

    Proliance I know what excited delirium is as I’ve been in the biz 19 years. However, reality is when that is what the coroner pronounces as the cause of death they generally don’t know exactly what killed the individual. The problem is Chad is responsible for his death for apparently doping up and raging causing his exited delirium to take his life. I really don’t see what the officer involved could have done otherwise than shoot Chad with the real gun. Granted, the problem here is that the CED is not meant to cause death so it opens up a BS lawsuit on behalf of the “wonderful” Chad. Personally I prefer the good old days when we had a big wooden stick and a gun.

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  • planeofecliptic
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:18pm

    The MEs report will clearly show that he died of a small brain fragment lodged in his skull.

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    • listeninginVT
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 8:49am

      I am always sorry to hear of loss of life, but bad choices have consequences. that being said. Plane, you have a way with words, thank you for the LOL this morning.

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  • SerikFox
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:16pm

    Totally his fault that he got killed. I’m sorry if he went insane, or went out of his mind, but either way, he had to be stopped before he seriously injured or killed someone.

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  • knighttemplar999
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 9:52pm

    I have a premonition that this is the way Glenn will go out.

    A burly, incoherent man who rampaged through an upstate New York gym died after going into cardiac arrest when he was repeatedly shocked with stun guns during a struggle with three officers, police said Monday.

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  • FireShowing
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 9:52pm

    Roid rage, have a nice day punk!

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    • Public Enema
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 10:12am

      and now u have the crown as king d bag…learn something then make comments…when u open ur mouth and say something stupid u make ur self look even stupider than i imagine u look..get off ur fat as well and get to the gym piggy.

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  • whatthecrazy
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 9:40pm

    Sorry dude that was the wrong move………Next

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  • PirateHunter
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 9:18pm

    That is the gym my wife and I work out at in the morning. I was not there, but she was. The guy was out of control and in state of rage. He got into a fight with a person on a treadmill and was throwing around weights. He destroyed one of the offices and the men’s locker room. The first police officer that arrived was put into a position to tase him based on his overtly aggressive behavior. As the cop was trying to cuff him, he threw her off of him and that is when other officers arrived and tased him again to put him down. An EMT working out at the time started CPR and used a defib unit at the gym. It was amazing seeing what destruction this guy did. My guess is that he was hyped up on more than “roids”….but the coroner’s report will have the specifics. I wonder if that will get get released.

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    • phillipwgirard
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 9:43pm

      Glad she was not hurt.

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    • NeoKong
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:04pm

      Definitely more than steroids.
      He was on something and was probably up all night.

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    • Rowgue
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:00pm

      Police are put in a position where they have to tazer people because PC society insists that 112 pound women and 5′2″ men be admitted to the force. If they had people on the job that were capable of actually doing it then all this ancillary crap wouldn’t be necessary.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 7:03am

      In my hometown back in the early 80′s when the first starting hiring women as cops, they sent a woman to a bar fight. She didn’t wait for back-up (her fault), and went in to settle the fight. She was armed and not with a taser. The men saw her, got together against her, overpowered her, took her out back and raped and killed her. 1. it’s good to have backup (which I’m glad this female officer did) and 2, make sure you’re tough enough for the job, it’s more than writing tickets and pulling over drunks.

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  • valleyfever
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 9:11pm

    His long lost relatives will be telling the story of the gentle loving person Chad Brothers who loved little kittens and asking WHY the PD had to use excessive force to subdue him. Anybody else smell a lawsuit coming?

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  • lukerw
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 9:09pm

    He was mumbling: “I having a Heart Attack”…. “help me”…

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    • TheVoice1
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 9:43pm

      Right! Having a heart attack while punching people in the face, throwing weights around the gym, and taking on all these police officers…. I don’t know where you are coming from…heart attack????? Man could occupy wall street use your genius …..

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    • lukerw
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 12:42am

      People (alike my wife)… who have Strokes… tend to Mumble… and Panic… where in an attempt to gain Control, they will Flail about, and have a Wild look… which is usually caused by a Cardiac Condition. Of course, it could be drug related… and we will find out later.

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  • proliance
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 9:09pm

    He most likely died from excited delirium. Most law enforcement officers are trained to look out for this, but then again, most don’t give a damn.

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    • SCARY313568
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 9:18pm

      Another stupid comment. Maybe if Chad wasn’t hopped up on dope or roids he would not have keeled over dead. But I guess the police officer should have tried to reason with the idiot and gotten the snot beat out of her first. There is only one person to blame in Chad’s death-Chad.

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    • proliance
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 9:38pm

      If you‘ve never been trained to handle excited delirium then you don’t know what I’m talking about. When a person goes nuts like this (usually on drugs) and you cuff him and seriously restrict his movement he can go into cardiac arrest.

      I know cops are trained to look out for this because I was trained as a Deputy Sheriff. I also know that if you resist a cop in any way then you‘re going to get what’s coming to you. Deliberate indifference is a great way at getting back at a suspect who ****** you off.

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    • Dustoff23
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:53pm

      So you where trained as a Deputy Sheriff, tell us what you would have done to defuse the situation. Are you a deputy now? Did you finish training as a deputy? Have you ever been in a situation like that or do you just like to monday morning quaterback. Sorry for all the questions, just wanting to know.

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    • Robinette42
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:12pm

      Proliance you’re spot on with the excited delirium as the probable cause of death. Scary, before you go characterizing someone else’s post as STUPID, you may want to understand what you’re reading first. Just because you’re not up to date on medical terminology / Diagnoses, doesn‘t me some of us aren’t.

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    • proliance
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 8:11am

      Dustoff23, I was a deputy Sheriff for four years in Tennessee from 2002 to 2006. I quit due to the low pay. One memorable situation I was a suspect went nuts (turned out he had the DT’s) and it took a team of us to restrain him. After he was sprayed and cuffed I rolled him onto his side to allow him to keep breathing and kept a hand on him at all times to monitor him. If he had been dumped into the back a car or someplace where he could not be continuously monitored it could have been deadly for him.

      But the reason its memorable is that he was thoroughly pepper sprayed (twice) and I forgot to tell the medical personnel. When the first person walked up and leaned over the suspect she instantly gagged and ran off.

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  • jopmur
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 9:08pm

    Addios Chad, don’t be so stupid in your next life.

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  • TriforcePlayer
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 8:59pm

    Thank God for police officers.

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  • RugDog
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 8:58pm

    Steroids. An idiots best friend. Glad he’s dead.

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  • drago
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 8:53pm

    Steroids and meth dont mix, guess he found out the hard way…….

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  • ares338
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 8:53pm

    Don’t taze me bro……..zaaaaaaaaaaaaap!

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  • rangerp
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 8:51pm

    if you do not fight the police, you do not get the juice. Pretty simple. Chunk him in a hole in the ground, and move on.

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  • chips1
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 8:48pm

    If this keeps up, NY should balance their budget by saving tax money on trials for the nutcakes.

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  • Markie Mark
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 8:46pm

    Sounds like the police did there job correctly…Glad they are all going home safe :)

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    • sillyfreshness
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 12:42am

      Umm, “glad they are all going home safe”? Didn’t one person die? I don’t think everyone went home safe. “Sounds like the police did their job correctly” yeah it sure sounds that way, but we won’t know until we see the readings on their stun guns. They claim it was set to “stun” when it could have been set to “kill” and they said they gave just a couple of jolts when they may have done dozens. Don’t always take the cops words. There are a lot of innocent people sitting in graveyards because the police “acted correctly” when in fact they didn’t. That’s why states should not make laws against filming cops doing their jobs to hold them accountable. No film, no evidence.

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    • SouthernMan
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 1:47am

      @SILLYFRESHNESS. Set to “kill” instead of “Stun” really. This is not Star Trek. Tasers do not have stun or kill settings. They are either on or off. I have carried one on duty for seven years and have yet to find the kill setting. As far as it goes I don’t much care if someone films me in the performance of my duty because I, like most other officers, am doing nothing wrong. I would sure love to see how you handle a 6-1 240 pound man hyped up on dope. What, would you indulge in some hug therapy or just stand around while he beats the hell out of patrons and trashes the gym. Seriously, what are we supposed to do. If we do nothing we are lazy cops; if we do something we are abusive corrupt cops. So please, in your infinite wisdom, tell me exactly how this should have been handled.

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    • neocon1
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 8:15am

      southernman

      double tap
      one center mass
      one forehead

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