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NAACP CA: Negative America’s ‘Crazy Ass’ Marijuana Laws are Modern Day Jim Crow
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Tate
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:43amHow is this racist? You give Drugs to people you want to Control. They get high and don’t care about anything as much as they did 10 minutes ago. Many Kings and Rulers have used drugs to control people before. If you want to smoke Pot I don’t care, but don’t think these fools have your best at Heart. They never have or ever will. Remeber the old saying. “DOPE IS FOR DOPES”
Report Post »on.second.thought
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 2:55pmAnd prescription narcotics are fine?
Report Post »CrackerSmurf
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:41amModern day marijuana laws are ridiculous and unjust at best. To consider them as Jim Crow is like considering a 40 car pile up a fender bender. Get your weed on the black market like the rest of us and shut up. Then instead of crying about the educational values you democrats beg for and restrict truth from change it and start teaching the truth which would entail BOTH sides of history. Slave this slave that n word this n word that white people are racists yadda yadda. Saying white people is racist is not a racist comment!
Report Post »Desertlife
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:52amSaying white people is racist is not a racist comment!…..So telling a white person he or she is racist, without knowing where he or she actually stands on the issue is a just statement? That would be like saying all African Americans are crack dealers. You’re statement in and of itself shows a true lack of discretion and further causes the divide between us.
hucksqr
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:30amWell, there is one thing the left is correct about, and that is, Cannabis was made illegal using racism. What she fails to say is what type of President we had at the time. It was made illegal in 1928, with Hoover as President, who happened to be a progressive. Harry Anslinger was one of the big proponents of making it illegal.
Report Post »The reasons for it being illegal was not because of what Cannabis use does to people. If you really research, it’s not nearly, in any way shape or form, as dangerous as alcohol or tobacco. Aspirin are more dangerous and harmful to the body. It was made illegal not because it was dangerous, but because certain businessmen wanted the competition of Hemp fibre out of the way for their Fibre companies. Bottom line, Hemp should not be illegal in any way, it has far too many industrial uses, and would seriously help kickstart the economy again.
As for cannabis as a recreational drug, to be honest, I could care less if someone wants to get stoned at home, so long as they do not expose children to it, and especially so long as they don’t get behind the wheel of a car, although when I was in my young party days, and I used it like most do when they’re young, I could never understand why anyone would want to drive after using it. As a Libertarian, I don’t think the government should try to regulate what we put in our bodies. That’s our business, it’s our choice, and it’s our consequences to live with. You want to drink alcohol and destroy your body, fine, I could care less. You want to smoke pot? Great, don’t do it in public, leave the kids out of it, and GO TO WORK! That’s right, get off the couch. I’ve been a medical cannabis patient for 2 years now (and no, not in California, I really am sick), and even though I have to use it so that I don’t have to use super strong opiates like the methadone they used to give me for my pain, I get up, and go to work EVERY SINGLE DAY. Smoking pot does not give you license to be a lazy idiot. If I can get up and never miss work, even though there are days when the pain get’s through my medicine and it sucks, then some 20 year old pothead can get up every day, put on a McDonalds hat, and go get a paycheck also. For the record guys, I don’t work in a restaraunt, I actually have a good paying job, working for a very good corporation.
Now, about the left calling racism everytime we turn around. The left has become the little boy who cried wolf way too many times, and now nobody listens to them, even though when it comes to Cannabis, they are in fact, at least partially correct. They just don’t know that it was progressives who made it illegal in the first place.
Desertlife
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:14amI love the part about sending the police to her neighborhood and out of the white neighborhoods….Being a retired officer i can speak from experience. When assigned to a beat in a Ghetto neighborhood, I knew I would be extremely busy due to the daily/nightly criminality going on there. When assigned to a beat in a bedroom community, I would end up arresting people from the Ghetto community, who were there trying to steal something…Go Figure….No matter where assigned the statistics would rarely change for the most part.
Report Post »pbrown
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:10amhow about we drug test congress and see who is using
Report Post »carol m
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:53am@PBrown I really like that idea. It would probably also explain alot that goes on in washington.
Report Post »American Dad10
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:05amdont walt equality ,wont to run the hole show .they run the hole show in africa yet they still leaving,wheres the african car computor ,toaster,gun . seems all they know how to do is live off the backs of others. if they took away their contribution to the world what would the world be deprived of . race card is all they have. we are willing to live side by side their not b carefull how far u push the world its getting ready to fight back
Report Post »ritetrack
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:05amk… i am sooo “FOR” all of the crazies in CA to have full and complete access to all the MJ they want and can eat or smoke or stuff in their ears for all i care… have at CA!!! it will be a blessing to the rest of America that wants to “SAVE” what’s left of our country if you will will just “chill”… buzz out… and get the HELL OUT OF OUR WAY…. KNOCK YOURSELVES OUT!!!! LITERALLY!! SMOKE EM‘ IF YOU GOT EM’…. ENJOY… IT WILL BE THE BEST THING FOR ALL OF AMERICA TO HAVE YOU ALL INCAPACITATED AND TOTALLY “STONED” AND OUT OF THE WAY… DAMN DEAD WEIGHT THAT YOU ARE!
but here’s the deal… while you guys are celebrating your “victory” for your rights to “burn your brains out”… we will be establishing laws that WILL NOT INCLUDE ANY REHAB… NOR WILL THESE LAWS INCLUDE ANY SUBSIDIES OR HANDOUTS OR HELP FOR ALL YOU “CRAZY ASS” POTHEADS (FIGHTING FOR YOUR RIGHT TO “SMOKE UP!”)… YOU CAN ALL WALLOW AND REVEL IN THE VICTORY THAT YOU HAVE WON!! ENJOY!!! BE PROUD OF WHAT YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED!
but, heres the deal, when you have a day or so that you come out of your “fog” and have a rare rational thought with the 2 brain cells you got left… (HEAR THIS AND HEAR IT GOOD!)…..DON’T COME BRINGING ANY OF YOU COMPLAINTS, IDEAS, YOUR THOUGHTS OR YOUR NEEDS TO US…. DON’T EVEN COME COMPLAINING ABOUT “YOUR RIGHTS” TO WHAT WE HAVE ACHIEVED WITHOUT “BURNING OUR BRAINS OUT!…. HEAR THIS…WE DON’T CARE ABOUT YOU ANYMORE…. WE FREELY GIVE YOU FULL RIGHTS TO JUMP OFF ANY CLIFF YOU CHOOSE… AFTER ALL WE’VE BEEN THRU… YOU CAN BET THERE WILL BE NO ONE THERE TO STOP YOU….THERE WILL BE “NO MORE BAILOUTS!!” NO MORE MONEY…NO MORE HELP…FOR YOU, YOUR KIDS, YOUR SCHOOLS, YOUR TOWNS… WE INTEND TO LET YOU “REAP WHAT YOU SOW”…… HEY CRAZY ASS… GOT IT????
Report Post »Chris G
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 12:35pmThere’s no need to YELL, Riterack, but as a pot smoker, I understand & agree where you are coming from. The States should be free to as lenient or as draconian re: marijuana as the People desire: from complete legalization on one hand to the use of the death penalty on the other.
W/ the exception of protecting our borders, the feds should stay out of this issue completely.
Report Post »Juli
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 1:12pmDude, take a chill pill. I know very intelligent people that like to indulge in a centuries old tradition and have excellent memories and they are very hard working members of society. It does and has been proven to have many medicinal properties. Did you know that the seeds alone are one of the most nutritional foods on the planet? It has omega fats and many other good properties and can be eaten just like sprouts and many other ways, Google it. It used to be in bird seed but was taken out due to the laws against it. You can make paper, rope (hemp) cloth to make clothes to name a few. There was actually a law that you had to grow it, when along came DuPont in the 1950’s and they destroyed their competition: Please educate yourself before you comment. If you understand addiction someone who has an addictive personality will become addicted to anything including food but we can’t ban that. Just sayin. Just check out some information I found. It is really not that bad.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1341969/the_first_marijuana_law_in_america.html
Report Post »The first marijuana law in America may surprise most people; it was to order the growing of marijuana, not the banning of it. According to Healthy Oils, in 1619, America’s first marijuana law was enacted at Jamestown Colony, VA. This law ordered farmers to grow Indian hemp seed.
While hemp has been cultivated for over 12,000 years for food, textiles, paper, and medicine, it has been prohibited in the USA since the 1950s. Change is happening, albeit very slowly, as there has been a great deal of recent interest by fashion designers and mass producers.
In fact cannabis hemp was legal tender in most of the Americas from 1631 until the early 1800s. You could even pay your taxes with cannabis hemp for over 200 years. A jail sentence then was more likely if you did not grow hemp during periods of shortages.
Hemp was so useful that George Washington and Thomas Jefferson had hemp grown by the enslaved Africans who toiled on their plantations. Jefferson used hemp paper to draft the Declaration of Independence.
In addition to food, paper, textiles and medicine, hemp oil is used in cosmetics. It is said to naturally replenish skin moisture. The systematic use of skin care products containing this oil will effect change; the omega-6 fatty acids will help if you suffer from eczema, psoriasis, chapped lips, or dry hair. It will help restore the natural glow to your skin and bring a healthy sheen to hair and lips. (One popular product on the market containing hemp seed oil is the various soaps in both liquid and solid form).
Further, hemp seed oil is healthy cooking oil. Of all the oils on the market hemp seed oil is the highest polyunsaturated oil (80%). It is now generally available in gourmet supermarkets.
According to hemp.org – hemp is one of the most diverse plants on the planet and could supply most of the needs of humankind with fuel, clothing, food, medicine, and building products. Hemp seed oil is also bio-diesel and is three times more productive than any other seed crop oil. It can run any diesel engine with no modification.
While farming this plant was legal at one time, and though illegal now, its benefits can’t be disputed In addition to food, paper, textiles and medicine, hemp oil is used in cosmetics. It is said to naturally replenish skin moisture. The systematic use of skin care products containing this oil will effect change; the omega-6 fatty acids will help if you suffer from eczema, psoriasis, chapped lips, or dry hair. It will help restore the natural glow to your skin and bring a healthy sheen to hair and lips. (One popular product on the market containing hemp seed oil is the various soaps in both liquid and solid form).
unitedforgood
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 1:13pmRight on Ritetrack! When you destroy your own life after many warnings don’t come expecting and demanding help!
Report Post »OneRepublic4us
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:02amProof positive that the NAACP has out lived it’s purpose and is no longer relative.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:59amI can’t understand why the libs have set up elaborate programs to reduce lung desease by discouraging people from smoking cigarettes but they feel perfectly comfortable with promoting the ruin of lungs, brains, and performance with marijuana. They claim no harm to lungs or brains from smoking weed. Yea right!
Report Post »ritetrack
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:16ambecause they are like “the wind”… they are a shadow… empty and illusive.. they stand for nothing other than to “fulfill” their immediate wants and needs… they do not care about the rest of the country or others… they are all about “themselves… me… me.. me”… let them go… let them run headlong off the cliff of their choosing… it’s sad.. but it is a hard truth… no one can help these “self-centered” folks… no one but GOD… let them go…
Report Post »bookofwisdom
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:57amI’m sorry; I could not understand half of what she was saying, but how does she think smoking pot is going to help educate her people? I’ve seen some really smart black people who did not vote for Obama, and I think I can say that they don’t smoke pot either. Maybe she needs pot to get her through the day, but she should look to Christ instead…Just singing the old hymns gets me high…
Report Post »havanabrownsam
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:53am“For those of you who think you arrived… Jim Crow-ism waaaas a holistic approach… after 3-400 years of all the maladies bein’ perforated… on pleasure-lovin’, pot smokin’ people… who, at the time they happened to be African-American…”
Mz Huffman, in order for public schools to kill the brains of your kids, they have to attend first, which you obviously did not…
Report Post »AMERICA4EVER
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:51amHow about the NAAAP The National Association for the Advancement of All People. Anything other than that is racists.
Report Post »kobuk
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 12:53pmdoes that association exist?
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:49amThis woman and the NAACP are losing it. Under her way of thinking if your child commits a crime then simply make it legal and every thing in fine. Get real people.
Report Post »Iamtheoracle
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:49amIll tell that to my son who is an addict/ alcoholic who starting using marijuana @ 15 and is now disabled , homeless, lost his family but loves his “pot”…- it’s just because of racism -
her argument is stupid and takes away from the legitimate debate over de-criminalization of drugs or even the conversations about the overwhelming epidemic of addiction -
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:01amVery sorry to hear about the plight of your son. Given your proximity to the problem, how do you think de-criminalization of drugs would effect the overwhelming epidemic of addiction?
Report Post »Awakened One
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:24amThe same way repeal of prohibition affected alcoholism. Made it manageable. Marijuana use is not going away. It‘s rampant even though it’s illegal. Take the resources going to courts and jails and law enforcement and put them into education and medical help. It’s a much better approach to the problem.
And if marijuana becomes legal, what will those drug cartels that thrive on marijuana smuggling and distribution do?
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:36amI agree with you 100%. Very eloquently put.
Report Post »Pablo
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:48amSooooo, white people don’t smoke pot? Bzzzzzzt. I’d like to hear how black kids are losing their lives every day because they had a joint.
The NAACP in California has obviously been deep into The Chronic. http://tinyurl.com/28g2cnp
Report Post »drs9
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:41amClip seems to be edited for someone’s agenda. Perhaps to drive an even larger wedge between Americans. The phrase “divide and conquer” comes to mind.
Does anyone actually think that marijuana laws are not repressive? If so wake up, they hurt all groups of lower income peoples. (by design?).
Report Post »monkeymom
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:49amThe clip has probably been edited because the women is a windbag. It is pretty hard to imagine that whatever was edited out could have changed the context of this woman’s speech at all. When you intimate that the primary reason police patrol predominantly black/brown (her words) neighborhoods is to round up some “slave labor” for the jails – it is really kind of difficult to place that in any kind of context other than that the person speaking is a hateful, fear-mongering loon.
Report Post »drs9
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 12:28pmPerhaps the editing was done without an agenda, I don’t know, but I have learned to question everything. She is from the NAACP so of course she is going to have a particular view based on what is familiar to her, take the color (read between the lines) out of the equation and what do you have. The exact same oppresion is happening in lower income white nieborhoods. I don’t condone drug use but is our current system really working? What part was fear mongering?
Report Post »Mr.Nick
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:40amWell, I’m a libertarian so I do agree that drugs should be decriminalized, however it make sick the NAACP is turning this issue into a “race issue.”
In speaking of Jim Crow laws, are these dumb “liberals” not aware that Jim Crow laws were the manifestation of the DNC???
Report Post »Chris G
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:26amI’m not a Libertarian anymore, but I agree w/ you that keeping marijuana illegal is foolish & non-sensical. The latest poll that I heard said that Prop 19 was ahead something like 47-43%, so I hope that the momentum will continue & the People will pass it & defy the wanna-be dictators in Washington, DC.
Report Post »Mr.Nick
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 12:53pmMary Jane can be put to good rather than evil.
I mean its the street gangs that control the drug trade, hence causing violence and problems within the black community in the process.
You better believe that those within the gangs are highly opposed to the decriminalization of drugs.
I think if we decriminalize drugs we will kill a lot of social problems in the process. Not to mention if the states choose to tax the substances they can via democracy of course and that could limit taxes in other areas as well. Not to mention all the jobs decriminalization would bring because its an entirely new industry, not to mention marijuana has a lot of other useful purposes besides being a drug… Hemp is a very useful, the oils are very useful etc….
Even other drugs such as coca and poppy have uses beyond being a recreational drug, however I would be a little bit more reserved at the notion of legalizing hard drugs.
Report Post »drbage
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 1:12pmWonder if Mr. Holder and the Dept of Injustice are prepping their lawsuits for this one?? Or are they going to let some 9th Circuit judge tell the voters that their votes don’t count as they did with Prop 8? Oops, had a brain freeze for a moment, this is CA and nothing they do is illegal.
Report Post »NoName22
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 2:24pmGenesis 1:11
11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:31amAlice Huffman obviously hit the bong before she hit the stage. Is this woman for real?
Report Post »bob.s
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:28amnaacp said the same thing about crack cocaine laws versus powder cocaine laws….
Report Post »Sefton
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:36amThis CA NAACP is the same group that demanded Hallmark Cards apologize for a graduation card that mentioned “black holes” (as in, the astronomical term). They insisted the card’s recorded message was “black whores”.
Report Post »This is the mentality of chronic victimhood – when it doesn’t exist, make yourself believe that it does.
broker0101
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:25amSo, to recap, for those of you keeping score at home: The cause of: AIDS=racism, the crack epidemic=racism, “global warming”=racism, war in the middle east=racism, poverty=racism, illegal immigration=racism, economy in recession=racism, and now, apparently, the failure to legalize recreational marijuana use=…………..racism.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:32amthat about sums it up, broker.
Report Post »Chris G
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:19amI strongly support re-legalizing marijuana, but I am sick & tired of the racism BS that these progressive poverty pimps are constantly throwing out.
This is an issue of respecting the 9th & 10th Amendment rights of the People, not race. It was the progressives of the early 20th Century that started our nation’s anti-drug mentality in the 1st place — & that’s why conservatives should support Prop 19 in California.
Report Post »carrera
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 12:27pmChrisG- Legalizing pot will allow for Mothers against Drunk Driving to adopt a new program of awareness, perhaps they can call it Mother’s against Doped Driving. They can begin their new program the first time some stoned idiot hops into his Chrysler, that the stoned UAW member assembled, and runs over and kills an innocent child playing jump rope on their sidewalk.
Report Post »Mr.Nick
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 12:44pmThis is what happens when you allow progressive communists and the NAACP define “racism.”
What the NAACP wants is this – “give the black individual whatever he or she wants otherwise its racist.”
^^ That is the ultimate goal of the NAACP. They want a black person to be able to walk into a business and say “gimme dat job” and if the employer refuses its racism….
Of course progressive communists are doing everything in their power to brainwash people to believe that anyone who questions blacks or the NAACP is a racist and that gives these “social justice” organizations unlimited power to say what they want and do what they want. The NBP voter intimidation case only proves this, Obama or any other nonwhite saying blatantly racist things about whites only proves this….. Right now these “social justice” organizations are in Utopia because they can say or do whatever the hell they want and if anyone questions them its “racism” and people back off and allow them to continue pushing their agenda…
Report Post »scottwileyhome
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 1:38pmLet’s put this on a bumper sticker.
Report Post »Domdbomb10
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 2:43pmThat is the smartest thing I’ve heard in a while, you nailed it.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 2:47pm@BROKER>>et.al. Let me run through this again…..ALL of these non-sensical issues are part of a great diversion, a distraction. These issues and the entire progressive list of ridiculousness is to break the focus of the people..So…quit it!! The REAL issue, In fact the ONLY issue is the the formation and implementation of the New world order(Global fascism). This is efficiently occurring RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!
Report Post »WAKE UP!!!!! YOU_tube the‘ Obama deception’…NOW!!!
on.second.thought
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 2:54pmbroker0101: I agree. I’m not even sure where the black radicals are coming up with all this imaginary racism? Yeah, I’m white…but there are people who are rude to me too. I don‘t automatically assume it’s because of my skin color. And how many young Latinos, Asians, Samoans, and Whites die everyday because of inner city drug-related gang violence? It’s a cultural issue, not a racial issue. Let people of all colors make their own decisions…then let the chips fall where they may.
Report Post »MESO71
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 4:39pmBroker…You only say that because you are a racist… I can tell, because you are a conservative posting here on the blaze
Yes I am being sarcastic… Or does sarcasm = racism
Report Post »roninshaman
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 7:14pmI think your missing the point boker0101. Our founding fathers knew about hemp and heroin and opium. They didn’t need to regulate drugs because peoples behavior was regulated by circumstance and choice. Men who desired knowledge formed governments and created new things. Men who only wanted to chase the dragon were found dead in some dimly lit den. It’s called free will. Who decides what is right for you. You and GOD, or you and Big Government through creating and enforcing law.
Glenn Beck consistently talks about teaching right VALUES! I agree 100% and I think the man is a genius. We have the GOD given rights of freedom and liberty. This, like alcohol, is a victimless crime.
The government should protect our borders. They should protect our interests internationally. They should Maintain integrity of our state by closely adhering to founding principles. They should not be telling us what we breath, eat, own, drink, do or say. As long is it does not threaten others or does not have a known lethal affect it do. Add to that enforcing laws, regarding stealing, murder and violence or subjugation of our fellow humans free will and you have the limits of governments directive.
Police ourselves or let the government do it for us.
Report Post »kevinbogard
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:21amThe Demonicrats…………………………..Cry, Cry, Cry !!
Report Post »kevinbogard
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:19amI had to stop her………………..I think she’s high
Report Post »AmericanPatriot01
Posted on September 26, 2010 at 11:25pmYou know what? Let them legalize marijuana… They will be to high to care about going out to vote and we won’t have to deal with the wack job idiots, they will be too stoned to care and we can let the regular upstanding citizens vote and decide who represents the people. Think about it… makes sense to me, no more progressive jerks, they wont care about anything else but their precious pot. The bonus is we can reap the benefits of the taxes that can be imposed on it and put the criminal element out of business at the same time by taking the profit out of the street sales.
Report Post »PaleRyder
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:15amEverything with the left is either race or sex. It’s all they have,it consumes their very existence. The democrat party has become the biggest bunch of whining,crybaby zeros ever assembled in this nation.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on September 26, 2010 at 12:55amMan oh man… what ISN‘T wrong with this lady’s speech?
Jim Crow laws have been gone for 40 years… let’s move on.
Now that‘s she’s “throwing that term around” I don‘t think she’s “anazlying” how it applies to regulating pot.
Young boys and girls are losing their lives everyday because they had a joint? What does that even mean?
Here’s a thought—-how about NOT smoking the frikkin dope in the first place?
Report Post »DanSt
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:12amShe be being talking bout all hers peoples…
drs9
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:54amFor real, is that comment really appropriate?
Report Post »bulldawg
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:02amLOOK DUMBO you are giving her the platform she runs with, wise up
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:05amThat comment is ABSOLUTELY appropriate. We need to stop walking on eggshells and start mocking these people (the entire Left) ruthlessly. The time to play by rules that our adversaries refuse to follow themselves is OVER. It is time to fight fire with much bigger fire.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:15amTo paraphrase the great character Marsellus Wallace, “We need to call in some Hard-Pipe-Hittin’-Conservatives to go to work on the Left with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch. It’s time to get Medieval on their A$$.”
drs9
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:21am@Broker0101
So making fun of people is the way to go, bringing ourselves down to their level (mocking people and calling people names) will help our Country. Here all this time I thought intelligence, integrity, truth and honesty were the way to go.
Two wrongs do not make a right! We can be better than that.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:35amAWAKENED, No, DEFEATING the Left is the way to help our Country. One way to do that is to ridicule them mercilessly. We need to turn Alinski’s Rules against the Radicals. He, very rightly, pointed out that, “”Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” We need to train that weapon (among others) on our enemies.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:37amSorry, that was a response to DRS.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:45amThe British lost the American Revolutionary War because they could not or would not engage in guerrilla warfare. Learn from the past.
Report Post »carrera
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:47amBroker- I respectfully disagree, mocking and ridiculing is a tactic employed by those who have no intellectual argument. It is a tactic long used by Democrats. It compromises civility but does allow others to see first hand what vile people they are. Never lower your standards.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:54amOK. I respect your opinion. I volunteer to do the dirty work to win this battle. You can thank me when it’s won.
Report Post »drs9
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:56amThe conservative/liberaterian message is strong on its own. More and more people are becomming educated each day and are finally realizing the true principles of our Country’s foundation. The movement is growing based on information, polarization is no help.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 12:01pm“Polarization is no help”???? One “Pole” is “Right and Good” and the other “Pole” is “Evil and Wrong”. If you want to “meet in the middle” you can go there without me.
Report Post »Mr.Nick
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 12:27pmI agree with broker0101.
Passiveness and politeness will get you know where with these people. These people take bullying to a new extreme and you taking what they throw at you only empowers them more.
The NAACP wants to control what “racism” is and you allow them to do that by avoiding the subject all together — To them “racism” is when the white man doesn’t kiss their @ass.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with mocking stupid people.
Report Post »Mr.Nick
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 12:34pm@drs9
You‘re not going to stop these racist communists by tolerating THEIR racism and you’re not going to stop them by being passive either.
To beat these people you gotta understand them first and I dont think you understand this “social justice” movement….. This movement is successful because YOU ALLOW IT to be by tolerating their nonsense racism and communist demands…
They want you to be submissive and thats exactly what you do when you say “I’m not going to stoop to that level.” Whether you think you‘re being morally superior to them is irrelevant because the outcome is the only thing that matters and the outcome here is the NAACP controlling what racism is and what people need to do to meet their demands to prove to them they’re not racist and thats is total and complete submission to blacks…
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Report Post »american1st
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 1:36pmbroker – making their position look ridicules with logic and reason is the way to win,
Report Post »ridiculing the man is the last resort of those with no argument,
we learned about and made people aware of Alinski’s Rules so that the people using them would be easily recognized and end up making fools of themselves. …not to copy them….
MESO71
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 3:59pmSo… Can we use reason and logic to ridicule them?
That sounds like a win/win situation to me!
The right way is to know when to use which method.
Report Post »A great many people just don’t get it when logic or intelligence comes into play. It doesn’t bother them in the least to appear as if they are dumb as a box of rocks. But should anyone happen to point out their lack of intelligence they suddenly get it real quick!
To these people a witty insult wins the argument every time. They don’t care in the least about right or wrong.
poverty.sucks
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 6:34pmBroker101 – Your criticism is thought provoking and the groundwork you‘ve added is insightful and invaluable in all your posts that I’ve read. Thank you Sir.
Report Post »DanSt
Posted on September 26, 2010 at 6:54amWhile I’ve received some criticism for my original comment, I stand by it. Let’s be real people…in the past we have been told we must accept Ebonics as an accepted form of language in this country because so-called black “leaders” suggested it was wrong not to do so…Our Congressional Black Congress is filled with black “leaders” who many, by any reasonable standards should be in jail, and most certainly not a on the public payroll…But they ‘work the system’ specifically because of the people who claim we must not “offend”…Forgive me my shortcomings, but I’m offended by the arrogance of their so-called “leaders” who took the message MLK Jr. and flipped it 180 degrees from ‘success through hard work and education’ into ‘whitey owes you’…Our black citizens need real leadership, not the opportunists who now control their message which has now transformed into “The government owes you a living for life”…At some point, the political correctness has to stop…Racism is a two way street…all one has to do is look at Eric Holder’s Department of Justice…I rest my case.
MESO wrote:
Report Post »A great many people just don’t get it when logic or intelligence comes into play. It doesn’t bother them in the least to appear as if they are dumb as a box of rocks. But should anyone happen to point out their lack of intelligence they suddenly get it real quick!
broker0101
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 10:01amAnd the NAACP plays the race card – the only card in their “Crazy Ass” deck- Again….
Report Post »uneedmorekoolaid
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 11:21amSOOO Is she saying that all black people smoke pot? cause that would be pretty racist assumption and I think the NAACP should be out picketing her and heckeling her when she speaks. Just my little observation.
Report Post »galiper
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 12:15pmThe race card – isn’t that all the NAACP is about anymore???
Report Post »superfide
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 1:53pmYou dont win anyone to your cause by stooping to their level. Americans will choose the right side every time they are told the truth. Every time these radicals use violence and ridicule to shut the other side down, they are telling the truth about who they are. They are “ends justify the means” people and we are not. If we play the same game they play what have we gained if we win? We are no better off by winning that way. We need to win by telling the truth about who we are and that is good decent God-fearing people. They are demonstrating how evil they are and all we need to do to win is stand by, and let them. We will win by contrasting ourselves by not being like them. Fighting fire with fire is exactly why we havent won the debate. That kind of behavior turns people off and causes them to ask whats the difference? We will show them the difference.
Report Post »ProgressivesLoveAmerica
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 2:01pmThis is not just the NAACP pulling the race card: When you actually look at the statistics and do the math, you find that the War on Drugs in general is simply an excuse for ethnic cleansing in America. Reagan was well known for it.
So the fear of drugs and the fear of crime is very much stimulated by state and business propaganda. The National Justice Commission repeatedly points out that crime in the United States, while sort of high, is not off the spectrum for industrialized societies. On the other hand, fear of crime is far beyond other societies, and mostly stimulated by various propaganda. The Drug War is an effort to stimulate fear of dangerous people from who we have to protect ourselves. It is also, a direct form of control of what are called “dangerous classes,” those useless people who don’t really have a function contributing to profit-making and wealth. They have to be somehow taken care of.
In the U.S. you don’t kill them, you put them in jail. The economic policies of the 1980′s sharply increased inequality, concentrating such economic growth as there was, which was not enormous, in very few hands. The top few percent of the population got extremely wealthy as profits went through the roof, and meanwhile median-income wages were stagnating or declining sharply since the ‘70’s. You’re getting a large mass of people who are insecure, suffering from difficulty to misery, or something in between. A lot of them are basically going to be arrested, because you have to control them.
Just by looking at the trend lines for marijuana. Marijuana use was peaking in the late ‘70’s, but there was not much criminalization. You didn’t go to jail for having marijuana then because the people using it were nice folks like us, the children of the rich. You don’t throw them into jail any more than you throw corporate executives into jail — even though corporate crime is more costly and dangerous than street crime. But then in the ‘80’s the use of various “unhealthy” substances started to decline among more educated sectors: marijuana and tobacco smoking, alcohol, red meat, coffee, this whole category of stuff. On the other hand, usage remained steady among poorer sectors of the population. In the United States, poor and black correlation — they’re not identical, but there’s a correlation — and in poor, black and hispanic sectors of the population the use of such substances remained steady.
ProgressivesLoveAmerica
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 2:06pmThe NAACP is totally right on this one, people. Even libertarians will agree with this. Look at the statistics and trends, then to the math! They’re not just “pulling the race card.”
So take a look at those trends. When you call for a War on Drugs, you know exactly who you’re going to pick up: poor black people. You’re not going to pick up rich white people: you don’t go after them anyway. In the upper-middle class suburb where I live, if somebody goes home and sniffs cocaine, police don’t break into their house.
So there are many factors making the Drug War a war against the poor, largely poor people of color. And those are the people they have to get rid of. During the period these economic policies were being instituted, the incarceration rate was shooting up, but crime wasn’t, it was steady or declining. But imprisonment went way up. By the late ‘80’s, in terms of imprisoning our population, we were way ahead of the rest of the world, way ahead of any other industrial society.
Who benefits from incarcerating young black males?
A lot of people. Poor people are basically superfluous for wealth production, and therefore the wealthy want to get rid of them. The rich also frighten everyone else, because if you’re afraid of these people, then you submit to state authority. But beyond that, it’s a state industry. Since the 1930′s, every businessman has understood that a private capitalist economy must have massive state subsidies; the only question is what form that state subsidy will take? In the United States the main form has been through the military system. The most dynamic aspects of the economy — computers, the Internet, the aeronautical industry, pharmaceuticals — have fed off the military system. But the crime-control industry, as it’s called by criminologists, is becoming the fastest-growing industry in America.
And it’s state industry, publicly funded. It’s the construction industry, the real estate industry, and also high tech firms. It’s gotten to a sufficient scale that high-technology and military contractors are looking to it as a market for techniques of high-tech control and surveillance, so you can monitor what people do in their private activities with complicated electronic devices and supercomputers: monitoring their telephone calls and urinalyses and so forth. In fact, the time will probably come when this superfluous population can be locked up in private apartments, not jails, and just monitored to track when they do something wrong, say the wrong thing, go the wrong direction.
ProgressivesLoveAmerica
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 2:18pmThe NAACP know what they are talking about! ALL drug laws in this country happen to have the side-effect of acting like Jim Crow laws.
It’s enough of an industry so that the major defense-industry firms are interested; you can read about it in The Wall Street Journal. The big law firms and investment houses are interested: Merrill Lynch is floating big loans for prison construction. If you take the whole system, it’s probably approaching the scale of the Pentagon.
Also, this is a terrific work force. We hear fuss about prison labor in China, but prison labor is standard here. It’s very cheap, it doesn’t organize, the workers don’t ask for rights, you don’t have to worry about health benefits because the public is paying for everything. It‘s what’s called a “FLEXIBLE workforce,” the kind of thing ECONOMISTS LIKE: you have the workers when you want them, and you throw them out when you don’t want them.
And what‘s more it’s an old American tradition. There was a big industrial revolution in parts of the South in the early part of this century, in northern Georgia and Kentucky and Alabama and it was based mostly around prison labor. The slaves had been technically freed, but after a few years, they were basically slaves again. One way of controlling them was to throw them in jail, where they became a controlled labor force. That’s the core of the modern industrial revolution in the South, which continued in Georgia to the 1920′s and to the Second World War in places like Mississippi.
Now it’s being revived. In Oregon and California there’s a fairly substantial textile industry in the prisons, with exports to Asia. At the very time people were complaining about prison labor in China, California and Oregon are exporting prison-made textiles to China. They even have a line called “Prison Blues.”
And it goes all the way up to advanced technology like data processing. In the state of Washington, Boeing workers are protesting the exports of jobs to China, but they’re probably unaware that their jobs are being exported to nearby prisons, where machinists are doing work for Boeing under circumstances that the management is delighted over, for obvious reasons.
ProgressivesLoveAmerica
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 2:30pmOnce again, please research the facts & statistics and do the math on this issue: The War on Drugs is a waste of money that DOES INDEED have the side-effect of acting like Jim Crow Laws
The enormous rate of growth of the prison population has been mostly drug related. The last figures I saw showed that over half the federal prison population, and maybe a quarter in state prisons, are drug offenders. In New York State, for example, a twenty-dollar street sale or possession of an ounce of cocaine will get you the same sentence as arson with intent to murder. The three-strikes legislation is going to blow it right through the sky. The third arrest can be for some minor drug offense, and you’ll go to jail forever.
This is NOT the “race card.” These are facts.
Libertarian people even agree on this issue.
BehindBlueEyes
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 2:30pm@ProgressivesLoveAmerica
I want to say this about your posts above:
DATS VEDDY INTERESTING BUT SSHTUUUUPID
ProgressivesLoveAmerica
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 3:09pmBEHINDBLUEEYES, thankyou?
I wouldn‘t say it’s stupid, though. Do the research for yourself, if you don’t believe me!
The War on Drugs is very profitable for people who are rich & in power. The War on Drugs also happens to have the side-effect of acting like Jim Crow laws. I simply provided all the factual data and support to back up the claim
poverty.sucks
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 3:20pmAnyone for a game of “Crazy-Ass”
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 3:35pm@ProgressivesLoveAmerica
Report Post »You and the 9/11 truthers have the same wiring defect in your brains. You believe in these wild convoluted conspiracies. How do you fall into that line of thinking? You and Contathinker should do a duet together.
ProgressivesLoveAmerica
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 3:51pmBEHINDBLUEEYES, insulting me doesn’t really help you nake any point. In fact, to my knowledge, you have made NO POINT.
What “conspiracy theories” have I posed? I gave a very detailed explanation for WHY the NAACP would say that Marijuana laws are a Modern Day Jim Crow. It’s really not that far-fetched of an argument, once you do the research!
I provided a well thought-out presentation of facts and analysis, and YOU respond with insults & unsubstantiated claims.
Report Post »79USMC83
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 4:08pmGrew up white lower middle-class,was a hippy in the early seventies,joined the Marines in 1979. I am a recovered alcoholic and have smoked pounds of pot. Addiction DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE!!! Several white boys I knew died from overdoses,many have been locked up. card!!! I played on the basketball team in high school with my black friends that DID NOT go down the party path. One is a warden out in Texas!!!
This lady is playing the same old VICTIM card and Progressiveslovesamerica comments are the same ole IT‘s THE MAN’S FAULT CRAP!!!!
Report Post »fluffychainsaw
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 4:16pmhey “progressivesloveamerica”. i’m libertarian, and that is the craziest idea i have ever heard. drug laws are not made to hold back the black community. there are just as many whites that use pot as blacks. using that argument, you can say the government uses drug laws to hold back rockstars, or meth is only illegal because the government hates lower class whites. DRUGS ARE ILLEGAL, BECAUSE THAT ARE HARMFUL TO AN EXTREME AMOUNT TO USER, AND OR PEOPLE THE USER MAY ENCOUNTER. if what you beleive is true, why doesnt the black community ( because according to you they have a huge drug problem) just not break the law, and stop abusing drugs? wouldn’t that be the simplest solution.
Report Post »Gigantopithecus
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 4:17pmI used to be for legalization until I learned George Soros is behind the medical marijuana movement. George Soros and “Progressives” want to dumb down America, so they will be so ignorant they will vote for and support a Communist New World Order freak like Obummer. After Barry it‘s pretty clear America can’t afford to be any more stupid.
Report Post »smugsmiley
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 4:28pm@Fluffychainsaw
What is your position on alcohol and tobacco, though? Both of these are arguably more harmful than Marijuana (which this is about).
On other drugs, I agree with you. Coke, Crack etc ARE extremely addictive and very harmful.
Report Post »ProgressivesLoveAmerica
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 4:38pm79USMC83, this has absolutely nothing to do with addiction! If you want to talk about addiction, you ought to know that addiction is more of a public health issue than an issue regarding the way we manage our economy as a country. The War on Drugs has more to do with the consequences of prohibition and the way we manage our economy.
Where in any of my posts have I EVER said that I blamed something on “the man.” I’m not some Hippy who indulges in hedonistic drug-induced debauchery. Modern conservatives tend to be the one with anti-government sentiment. They’re more likely to blame something on “the man.”
I simply explained, in VERY pointed detail, WHY somebody from the NAACP might assert that Marijuana Laws are tantamount to Modern Day Jim Crow. If you do the research, you know why. This has nothing to do with out-dated perceptions of “the man” ruining your good time. This has to do with the way we take care (neglect, rather) of the poor (many of whom happen to minorities), and it has to do with how we manage our economy by investing in prisons & getting rid of workers’ rights.
Report Post »Tate
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 5:07pmI think this ‘Crazy Ass American’ is hitting the dubbie before they even vote on prop 19. She sounds high as a kite. Anyway it’s California so the judges can just say whatever Crazy Ass thing He/She wants to.
Report Post »LadybugsTX
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 5:19pmThis woman is crazy. She talks about how Jim Crow laws have never been overcome because they haven’t been “getting” what they need. This explains the problem in a nutshell. Poor African Americans, and I use them as the example because that’s the subject here, are sitting around waiting for someone to “give” them what they need. They are like trained elephants. Yes, they were chained from achievement by things such as Jim Crow laws, but now they have been released to move about the country and “go get” achievement for themselves. In fact, they are afforded more opportunity because of thier situation in the way of scholorships, job training, affirmative action, etc. But they don’t step up to the plate. They remain in thier gettos waiting for someone to “give” them what they need. And their leaders, Sharpton, Jackson, NAACP and this dingbat aren’t helping. They are the ones that keep signaling for them to conitinue to set there and wait.
Report Post »baldwin4freedom
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 5:28pm@PROGRESSIVESLOVEAMERICA
I agree that it is probably true that the drug war was instituted to create jobs. This parallels the time frame that it started when we were really losing manufacturing jobs overseas. The prison construction for the private sector is a short term revenue, but the detention officers and administration are long term jobs that people can retire from.
I also believe that the fair housing act was created to give those blue collar workers a job, too. Home construction is not a viable industry. That is why the federal government had to mandate home loans to lower income citizens. This in turn created the housing boom and, of course, led to the housing crisis. I am a contractor and none of this has made sense to me for the last 5 years. Home prices were way to high 5 years ago versus what those buying these homes were making annually.
Since the 70′s our federal government has been subsidizing american jobs. Like you said DEA along with FHA, DOE, US Military, DOJ and many other social programs. I do not know the exact amount of jobs created by the federal government, but the budget percentages tell the trends.
Almost all of these federally funded jobs are non productive and do not add any real wealth to our nation.
When you talk about this all starting in the 80′s I will partially agree, but its infancy started in the mid to late 60′s. Our work force had started deteriorating ethically and their wants were greater than the market could bear, so many jobs went overseas. There were also technological job losses along the way that contributed, too. People have forgotten how to work for what they get. We are in a bad case of entitlement syndrome, and have been for at least 35 years.
So, in my country grown education, I can agree with you on some of your reasoning. Where I think we probably disagree is that it is We The People to blame for delegating so much responsibility to the government when they said they could take care of it, instead of the People dealing with their own problems individually or within their own communities. Nothing is ever going to be perfect, and the more perfect our “leaders” try to be, the more imperfect it all becomes.
Report Post »cryba
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 5:30pmProgressivesofAmerica – No black kids are going to prison for smoking/carrying a joint. They are going to prison for selling large quantities of illicit drugs. They are not victims. They are selling drugs for a living. Any white kids caught selling large quantities of illicit drugs also go to prison. Poverty and lack of job skills may play a role, but that doesn’t affect just black folks. Poor whites have the same problem. One of the biggest causes of poverty is divorce. Maybe we should focus more on keeping American families together instead of just legalizing the drug trade. According to your logic, just turn your back on the drug criminals, let them all alone to sell & use drugs and everyone will live in peace and harmony. Using this logic, we should also decriminalize prostitution, pornography, shop lifting, drunk driving, etc. Most of the people who get involved in these crimes are also poor. Being poor is no excuse to break the law and getting rid of the laws to protect the poor is nonsense.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 6:17pmAny form of government to authorizing use of Marijuana is at risk to be responsible for its people having hallucinations, some of alcohol’s depressant and disinhibiting affects. Also encouraging dry mouth and throat, increased heart rate, impaired coordination and balance, delayed reaction time, and diminished short-term memory. False sence of well-being and a dreamy state of relaxation that encourages fantasies, renders some users highly suggestible, and distorts perception (making it dangerous to operate machinery, drive a car or boat, or ride a bicycle). Stronger doses prompt more intense and often disturbing reactions including paranoia and extreme hallucinations.
What the government really wants is the tax revenue. Green for Green Initiative.
Report Post »nomorelawyers
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 6:53pmproof, these NAACP fools hate america,,,
Report Post »79USMC83
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 7:36pmProgressivesLoveAmerica
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 4:38pm
79USMC83, this has absolutely nothing to do with addiction! If you want to talk about addiction, you ought to know that addiction is more of a public health issue than an issue regarding the way we manage our economy as a country. The War on Drugs has more to do with the consequences of prohibition and the way we manage our economy.
Where in any of my posts have I EVER said that I blamed something on “the man.” I’m not some Hippy who indulges in hedonistic drug-induced debauchery. Modern conservatives tend to be the one with anti-government sentiment. They’re more likely to blame something on “the man.”
I simply explained, in VERY pointed detail, WHY somebody from the NAACP might assert that Marijuana Laws are tantamount to Modern Day Jim Crow. If you do the research, you know why. This has nothing to do with out-dated perceptions of “the man” ruining your good time. This has to do with the way we take care (neglect, rather) of the poor (many of whom happen to minorities), and it has to do with how we manage our economy by investing in prisons & getting rid of workers’ rights.
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Ok the prisons are full of dope users and why???? 90% of the crimes in this country are committed to support drug habits!!!!! The majority are not there for dealing,but for robbing,burglary and murder!!! To support habits!!! I had my license taken away for five years because I was a repeat DUI offender. I was a danger to soceity.I know 14 people that have killed people in alcohol related wrecks,Two killed their own kids. Drugs ARE about ADDICTION and the crimes commited are TOO!!! Two million DUI’s are given out every year but their are only 48,000 alcohol realted deaths. Is this just another money maker for the very people you are talking about???? Alkso while I was on probation I called the police and helped get two minorities thrown back in prison ,because in broad daylight they were breaking into an apartment stealing guns!!!! There was a bag of weed on the freaking front seat and spent Ak-47 rounds on the floor. One was on parole as a sex offender!!!!
Report Post »I mentioned in my comment about my BLACK friend that did not go down that path and is a warden in the very prisons that house all of the minorities that CHOSE to commit crimes. I was locked up once and someone said that the way were packed in the cell was inhumane,the jailor said “If you do not like it STOP BRAKING THE LAW”!!!
I choose to turn my life around and have not been in any trouble since. Go figure,stop the feedding the addiction. Oh and yes I had help. Once an illegal immagrate would pick me up in his car and give me a ride to work LMAO!!!! So what was wrong with that picture!! Your comments are well written,long and windy , sorry if I dissagree with you and I am one of those Homer Simpson’s that think it is not always SOCEITIES faults but have learned to look in the mirror and admit I am to blame for my actions!!!
So here I am a VICTIM of the “Government Stupid” reversing prohibition and making alcohol LEGAL again!!! Yes the War on Drugs is a Failure and yes the “Government Stupid” does not want it stopped and yes it is about MONEY. But my PROGRESSIVE friend it is about ADDICTION,BURGALRY and one of my best friends sisters being MURDERED over DRUGS and MONEY!!
Psychosis
Posted on September 25, 2010 at 8:54pm@progessivesloveamerica……………………so using your thought process……….the government (us oppressive white people) force these people to break the law so we can lock them up? your evaluation is left wanting ………… these people chose to break the law of their own volition. noone is forcing them to do drugs
Now if you want to point fingers it would be of use to point them in the direction where blame is due.
so here it is in step by step so you can get your mind wrapped around this
1) person decides to break law
2) person has no value base to decide right from wrong
3) the family structure is non existent
4) government and educational systems telling population that they know best in raising your child
how is this the governments fault, and what political party is most to blame? well i think it is the welfare system and the schools.
the mentality that the government is there to give you everything is destroying those who partake by removing the reason to better yourself in exchange for an easy ride. now i am not saying that there arent people who need help but the way it is done is detrimental, and with government involvment it starts a machine that is self serving.
example= the democratic party is a very large group that has done a lot to push for welfare. they promise all this stuff and in turn these people tend to vote democratic. But instead of this system helping people get on their feet and then providing for themselves they promote a system that keeps them dependent on a system hence these people tend to keep voting for the people that provide this system. this is very similar to a type of self inclusive slavery. without actually giving these people a way up out of poverty and a way off the system thru education, the system continues to a very large degree a failing eduction system which ensures a large part of this populace to continue the viscous circle.
How do we stop this? how do we help those in need , without making them slaves to the system?
EDUCATION
how do we fix a broken education system that continues this epidemic?
REMOVE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM OUR SCHOOLS
AND ALLOW COMPETITION AMONG OUR SCHOOLS…………..CHARTER SCHOOLS AND THE VOUCHER SYSTEM
This will eliminate the stronghold over our education allowing us to chose where our students go to school and not letting the education of our students only depend on where they live of how much money they have to decide what education they can get
the competition will on its own drive down school costs and remove bad schools from the choices because they will fail. now this will also have to go hand in hand with ending tenure which is the best way to ensure responsible good educators rise to the top and failures are eliminated as they should be
Our youth is the most important thing we have, they are your futures, but more and more we give away our control, choices of education, and their futures to a government that is proved more and more to be self serving than us serviing
God bless and god help our families and country
Report Post »muffinmanpolio
Posted on September 26, 2010 at 12:41amIf you say that the system is setting people up to fail, THEY are setting them up to fail by making them think that the odds are stacked against them so they give up before they even try.
If you say you can’t do something, you are right.
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on September 26, 2010 at 6:23am@ProgressivesLoveAmerica
Here‘s where I’m coming from.
I got to the second sentence of your first post and read this:
“When you actually look at the statistics and do the math, you find that the War on Drugs in general is simply an excuse for ethnic cleansing in America.”
That told me the whole story. I do admit I didn’t read your posts entirely but I did get through the first post and half of the second. I found I was waffling in and out of conscientious.
Report Post »Forgive me I just can’t take you seriously.
BehindBlueEyes
Posted on September 26, 2010 at 8:17am@ProgressivesLoveAmerica
Report Post »I’ve temporarily regained my sanity for the moment and want to apologize for the not so funny insults. Your right that insults don‘t further the argument and I’m guilty of the same thing I chastise others for.
It still doesn’t change my mind about your theory on this matter but your replies to me are civil and you should be respected for that.