(Updated) NASA’S Big Announcement: Scientists Discover Arsenic-Based Life Form
- Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:29pm by
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WASHINGTON (The Blaze/AP) — Scientists have discovered a strange bacteria that can use arsenic as one of its nutrients, a discovery some speculate is the big announcement NASA is set to unveil at 2 p.m. E.T.*
The finding widens the possibilities for finding different forms of life here on Earth and possibly on other planets or moons. The unusual bacteria was found in a lake in California.
Six major elements have long been considered essential for life — carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur.
But the researchers found that the bacteria is able to continue to grow after substituting arsenic for phosphorous.
Ariel Anbar, a co-author of the report, said “it makes you wonder what else is possible.”
Earlier today, the Huffington Post published a story saying that the newly-discovered life form is NASA’s bug announcement.
“The news has leaked now,” HuffPo writes, “and while the discovery is not extraterrestrial life, NASA has indeed uncovered an entirely new life form on our planet that “doesn’t share the biological building blocks of anything currently living.”
*UPDATE from NASA:
NASA-funded astrobiology research has changed the fundamental knowledge about what comprises all known life on Earth.
Researchers conducting tests in the harsh environment of Mono Lake in California have discovered the first known microorganism on Earth able to thrive and reproduce using the toxic chemical arsenic. The microorganism substitutes arsenic for phosphorus in its cell components.
“The definition of life has just expanded,” said Ed Weiler, NASA‘s associate administrator for the Science Mission Directorate at the agency’s Headquarters in Washington. “As we pursue our efforts to seek signs of life in the solar system, we have to think more broadly, more diversely and consider life as we do not know it.”
This finding of an alternative biochemistry makeup will alter biology textbooks and expand the scope of the search for life beyond Earth. The research is published in this week’s edition of Science Express.
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thinkingoutloud
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:28pmThis in no big deal , Nancy Pelosi thrives in pond scum, why wouldn’t a bacterium thrive in arsenic?
Report Post »OK3Wire
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:17pmHave you seen the picture of these bacteria? Those little boogers look suspiciously like the things crawling on my cereal each morning. Hmmm … my wife said that it was just a new artificial sweetner …
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:03pmYou know what scientists SHOULD be working on? Pizza trees. Wouldn’t it be nice to eat a nice garden fresh pizza straight off the tree?
If not that, perhaps clothing that manages to fall off of women at inconvenient times based on how attractive they are?
That’s science I can support.
Report Post »Sunnyr
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:03pmHow fitting that alien life forms would be found in California. If the Mothership comes down to take them all home, Hollyweird and San Francisco will be ghost towns.
Report Post »RedIrishman
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:01pmI love how half the comments on here are about the actual article, and half is about “argh, damn progressives need to eat arsenic!”
Not bashing, but i just find it funny.
Anyways, It is actually a big find. I personally think that if we ever found any kind of extraterrestrial life that has similar intelligence to us, it would either 1) Bring every human being together, as humans would instantly think these new alien lifeforms are threats, or 2) We would continue to bicker, and the aliens would either pick a side or do away with us entirely. I could be wrong of course, but it’d be nice (or scary) to imagine.
Report Post »fan-of-glenn
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:29pmI am willing to donate to building a pipe line directly from the arsenic laced lake to “Spooky Dudes” nest. Maybe along the way we can include all the progressive parasites we have in and controlling the government?
Report Post »mrmikejohnson
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:28pmHere’s the story:
NASA is angry at Obama for declaring that their primary objective is to help Muslims. They’re angry that Obama has cut funding declaring, “We’ve already been to the moon.” Today’s announcement by NASA is purely political. They need funding. They’re trying to restore the public trust that Obama has damaged. They want Americans to feel like NASA is deserving of the huge budget that they have so they felt like they had to report something.
This news would typically be buried in the science section of most websites. NASA called a big press conference because of the huge hits that they’ve taken politically under Obama.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:36pmI think your right
Report Post »mintyfresh
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:43pmabsolutely false. the importance of this is lost on you, and i‘m sorry that you can’t revel in it. but you are wrong. i guess that’s the most amazing thing. people who can’t even understand the fundamentals of this story feeling they can comment and see “the truth.” he question then becomes – do you do this on other topics too? is talking out of your ass a hobby you find enjoyable?
Report Post »WISEPENNY
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 10:27pmWell with the money shortage situation we’re experiencing, nothing short of a reptilian pole dancing act will loosen up any funding for them, for now at least. lol
Report Post »mrsmileyface
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:26pmArsenic life forms eh? We’ve known this for more than 40 years with Keith Richards. And he keeps on ticking and ticking and ticking.
Report Post »Heitah
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:21pm“Bug” announcement huh? Nice typo.
Report Post »ILoveGlenn
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:17pmScientists Discover life on Earth!
A real shocker!
Report Post »TennesseeConservative
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 5:51pmNASA has a new mission pond scum. Forget space exploration. Lots of scum here to examine.
Report Post »MeteoricLimbo
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:14pmIt seems the further back you stand the more you see. Does this maybe mean there are infinite possibilities? Nawww lets stick with carbon or maybe silicon….. and maybe arsenic. But that’s all! maybe
Report Post »youguysready_letsroll
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:10pmWhy all the hype? I guess it increases the probability of extra-terrestrial life maybe? geez with the hype you think they would have spotted or heard something from an alien species in space.
Report Post »mintyfresh
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:36pmthese comments just make me sad beyond belief. a very basic grasp of any science would lead one to understand why this is jaw-droppingly amazing and so fantastic it is hard to believe. but the lack of that amazement is equally telling… and much sadder.
go learn some science, people!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:50pm@Minty
And again with the attacks. Now that you‘re this far down in the thread you’ve clearly read mine and some others here agreement with the profound nature of this discovery. I can only attribute your attitude and words now to simple malice.
Report Post »cognitivedissonance
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 5:58pmGod you folks sure are sensitive, really though this is an amazing scientific discovery, enjoy it. Science is cool.
Report Post »ILoveGlenn
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:08pmThis is actually a very big discovery. It still doesn’t answer this questions, that are on scientist’s minds:
1. Where did we come from?
2. Why are we here?
3. Who are we?
BUT this is all answered if you are christian by the Bible.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:37pmScience is not the tool that you’d use to search for morality or questions of ethics. That’s a bit of confusion that both religious people and science type people run into all the time.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:38pmAgree and Amen.
Report Post »roach
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 4:08pmI can write a book answering all of those questions too… doesn’t make it true though.
And those are NOT the questions on scientists minds. Those are philosophical questions and ethics questions.
Report Post »Rowgue
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:52pmThis is stupid. It’s not an arsenic based lifeform, it’s a bacteria that can eat arsenic and not die. There are many animals and bacteria that are naturally immune to a wide range of different poisons. Is it slightly interesting? Sure. Is it some kind of revelation about new forms of life? Umm no.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:56pmI don‘t think they mean that it’s immune to arsenic, but rather, arsenic inserts itself into the organism’s biology and replaces phosphorus.
Report Post »Camo Pants
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:56pmSo, if we find a life form somewhere past the asteroid belt that can survive solely on certain metals, like Fe, then it’s not a big deal? Sorry, last I checked it is.
Report Post »Rowgue
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:14pmAll they said was it can use arsenic as one of it’s nutrients. Is it news? For the biological community…yes, because it‘s the first time it’s been seen. Is it earthshattering news that changes the entire prospective on “life”? No sorry.
Report Post »cognitivedissonance
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:24pmIt incorporates arsenic into its DNA, this is new, we’ve never seen this before.
Report Post »mintyfresh
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:31pm@rowgue – maybe you should read a real version of the story. the blaze, obviously knowing the intellectual capacity of its regular audience, significantly simplified the story. i don’t exactly know what your motivation is for inserting your “scientific” opinion about things of which you obviously have not even a rudimentary grasp. but you are revealing your idiocy. if you wish to enact any self improvement, go read, say, a basic high school biology text book and understand why this is amazing.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:49pm@Minty
I was tempted to agree with your first post on the thread, as this is quite important in the big scheme of things and I’ve said as much on the thread (as have others), then I scrolled down and saw your attacks, smears and sneering.
If you wish to not perpetuate the image of the bitter, angry leftist I strongly urge you to consider developing the capacity for true tolerance. Even if others are intolerant towards you, your example of tolerance can change minds and convert souls. Being angry and bitter does nothing but close down any chance of helping others understand.
Report Post »Hugie 59 PA
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:50pmScientist have found alternate life forms in the past deep within the ocean floor. These worm like creatures, I believe, used nutients other than what is considered normal and continue to survive.
Report Post »mintyfresh
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:28pmbut this is completely different. not the same at all. this is huge.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:52pm@Hugie
Giant tube worms around the thermal vents. Centuries in age and remarkable.
Report Post »MrObvious
Posted on December 4, 2010 at 8:18pmAt thermal vents the substitute chemosynthesis for photosynthesis and often live at temps at or over over the normal boiling point of water.
This lake critter is still carbon based, as are the vent life forms.
It’s still cool that the life adapted to ambient arsenic levels, by using it instead of phosphorus.
Report Post »Tightie Rightie
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:47pmOf course the tree huggers will now demeand that we stop arsenic regulations as a threat to our newly-discovered bacterial friend. I suppose California will demand an arsenic pipeline to the lake to keep it well fed. Maybe they can use the water pipeline they shut down to the valley for that.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:41pmCan’t do it, the bait fish will get hurt.
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:46pmWhy is NASA so surprised? Washington DC is filled with stupidity-based lifer forms.
Report Post »cognitivedissonance
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:23pmand this site runs entirely on ignorance and impotent rage
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:30pm@cognitivedissonance
Blanket assumptions and categorization of a swath of people into one terse ad hominem, kind of puts me in mind of somebody running on ignorance and rage. ;)
Report Post »M31Sailor
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:41pmRemember the last days of the pervert in chief ,BJ Clinton, when he had the EPA, set hard new standards on Arsenic levels in Colorado? Eight years in office and this scumbag waited till his last days to do this. Democraps doing their best to let Repubs do the heavy lifting
Report Post »Fox
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:41pmThis is actually really big news biologically — it does force us to look at life in a totally different way. It’s too bad this story got hyped up so much. Suddenly because NASA -didn’t- find little green dudes, everyone is disappointed.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:49pmIt is a big thing, no question.
Report Post »ILoveGlenn
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:02pmYea
Today is a historic day, to the scientists
Report Post »MeteoricLimbo
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:16pmThey did. but they aren’t green dang it…..
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:29pmOk, I’m not a scientist so this might seem dumb. Is it possible that the bacteria started out as a carbon based lifeform and over time adapted to the environment since it was “using arsenic as one of its nutrients”? If there was mostly arsenic available wouldn’t it naturally evolve towards being an arsenic based life form?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:31pm@ Kate
Yes, that’s conceivable. Adaptation to the surrounding, and a dose of millions of years of “if it don‘t kill ya’, it makes ya’ stronger” and badda bing, a being that can replace phosphorus in its genetics with arsenic if required.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:45pmThankyou, GHOST. I was a little nervous about asking, sometimes I get my butt chewed on this site for asking a ‘dumb’ question.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:51pm@Untameable Kate
Only ‘dumb’ question is one never asked!
Had a manager who used to chide me for being an asker of ‘dumb things’; at least until the day he was fixing a washer and I asked him if he wanted me to unplug it first. The next words were ‘trust me’ and that impish look on his face of smug superiority – at least until he was kissing the floor a moment later from touching a hot wire with a full metal screwdriver and bare handed.
Yes he lived, and earned from me the nickname he still holds ‘live wire answered’
Report Post »Rapunzel
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 4:14pm@Kate…or God created them that way ~ 6000 years ago in order to confound the materialist scientists of today.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:41pmNow we just need to look for a lace based life form.
Report Post »moriarty70
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:32pmWe would have had to find it first to qualify as old.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:38pmYes, exactly. That’s why I was unable to qualify it as old in my statement. :)
Report Post »rwing
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:35pm“while the discovery is not extraterrestrial life, NASA has indeed uncovered an entirely new life form on our planet that “doesn’t share the biological building blocks of anything currently living.”
Report Post »**********************************
Cool. However, call me when you find E.T.
Camo Pants
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:54pmI found Nancy Pelosi, happy?
Report Post »rwing
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 9:11pm@ Camo Pants
Report Post »LOL. Good one :)
snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:33pmTerrestrial life form known of for some time; there are groups in Yellowstone park called “Anarchi bacteria” if I remember the spelling right, that live on sulpher compounds, deep sea versions that live on methane hydrate and methane sulfide compounds, and one that lives on cyanide compounds. After all of these discoveries, it shows life will adapt to any conditions around it.
There are bacteria in the gulf of mexico who live on hydrocarbon compounds from natural oil leaks.
http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm
Report Post »J.C. McGlynn
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:39pmIsn’t this something found in the made for television version of “Andromeda Strain?
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:43pmThat one of the mini series was ‘found’ in a deep sea volcanic vent; there was suppose to be some kind of time traveling satellite sent back as a warning of the future.
These bacteria though have been mentioned on various programs and journals to my knowledge as far into the early 80s. Look into information on “Thermovents of the ocean deep” and the “Giant Tubeworm ecologies” these buggers live upon the bacteria like this.
Report Post »Independent Tess
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:58pmWhy are they surprised that other life forms are so different?
Report Post »I have said for years that extra terrestrial life would be so different from us that we might not even recognize it as Life. Why would they think Life has to ALWAYS be based on carbon? We are talking EXTRA terrestrial here.
I have no doubt that there are other forms, but they are probably vastly different!
Independent Tess
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:02pmThough not EXTRA terrestrial I still don’t see why they are so surprised. I expect infinite diversity.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:33pm@Tess
Most likely we’d be talking extra-solar. Extra terrestrial means that it comes from the solar system, just not earth. A distinction some weenie made to me years ago. :)
I strongly suspect anything originating in this solar system would hold a lot of common traits with life here, even if it is strangely different in many respects. The solar system coalesced out of the same basic cloud after all (elements).
Report Post »RavenGlenn
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:20pmCouldn’t agree more Tess. I’ve been saying for as long as I can remember that scientists are foolish when they talk about how they need to find water on another planet. Life on EARTH needs(as far as we know) water to be sustainable. But what makes us think that other life would need water? Now, if they want to talk about whether WE could live and colonize somewhere, sure. But life?
The universe is so massive and diverse that life could be spawned out of almost anything. Water and the other elements in our atmosphere and air might be required for life, or they might not. I’d bet on not.
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 10:48pm@Snow–
Biologists now group life into three Domains: Bacteria, Archaea, and Eukarya.
Bacteria should be obvious.
Eukarya is complex single-celled organisms and all multi-celled organisms.
Archaea is what I think you’re talking about. Mostly extremophiles, regarded as being somewhere mid-way between Bacteria and Eukarya in evolutionary terms.
However, the discovery here is that these bacteria actually incorporate arsenic as a substitute for phosphorous in their important molecules and proteins. Interesting because phosphorous is very important in membranes and DNA and in metabolism.
Report Post »Oil_Robb
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:33pmYup…found in a lake…how the hell do they know where it came from?….near Roswell?
Report Post »chickenlittle
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:49pmCame from CA… probably an evolution of a marijuana based life form. They produced Pelosi & Boxer out there didn’t they? (Sorry, that’s not really considered a life form, is it?)
Report Post »DagneyT
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:32pmI’m always fascinated at how many ways government agencies have to waste OUR money!
Report Post »chickenlittle
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:45pmI’m not sure that this kind of science is a waste. I call it a waste to have Obama force NASA’s mission to be an Ambassador to the Arabs.
Report Post »Camo Pants
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:52pmIt is in no way a waste of money, think about it. If we can substitute the elements that we need with other ones, we could perhaps live longer or develop cures for horrible illnesses, like cancer, just imagine :D
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:36pmAnyone see the connection of the Arab states and NASA? NASA builds and flies missiles and rockets, and the Arab states often want missiles and rockets? If we sent a man to the moon, how difficult will it be for the Arab states to soon chuck a sub-orbital warhead in our direction?
Report Post »chickenlittle
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:59pmAh, come on Snow… aren’t you exaggerating? The Arabs (and Muslims) are our friends! Peaceful, too!
Report Post »mintyfresh
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:26pmthis comment embodies what is wrong with the world. possibly the biggest scientific discovery in our lifetime (if true) and you guys call it a waste. what exactly is a good use of money then? keeping the homosexuals out of your town? science is powerful, if understood. i’m thinking few here understand, as in the 30 comments i’ve sifted through thus far, no one has even commented on the momentous nature of this story.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:41pm@Chickenlittle
First rule of international relations: Keep your friends close, and enemies closer.
2nd rule of international relations: You have no friends, only allies of convenience.
Same in politics.
Report Post »cognitivedissonance
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 5:55pmIf you lot were in charge of science funding we’d still be consulting wizards.
Report Post »J.C. McGlynn
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:31pmArsenic based life forms. We have them here already. They are called “LIBERALS.”
Report Post »patriot4evah
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:34pmPerfect! absolutely perfect! .. post of the day.
Report Post »dcwu
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:37pmHear! Hear!
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:42pmI suspect Randi Rhodes, Mike Malloy, Ed Schultz & Keith Olbermann may be arsenic based when you consider there constantly poisonous rhetoric.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:44pmAh yes, Arsenic = Rat poison, the connection is revealed!!! Amen!!!
Please read also my entry lower down about other kinds of these bacteria and the life they support for anyone interested.
Report Post »ElleSi
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:45pmlmao!
Report Post »mrlogan3
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:50pmCome off it. Why do you have to stoop to namecalling? Comment on the article or shut up.
Report Post »APatriotFirst
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:50pmRoaches has been using Raid for years as a substitute.
No big deal here on life form.
Report Post »If NASA wants to find a new life form……they need to look in DC. Maybe they can figure out just what it is.
grandmaof5
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:54pmSo that’s what happened, the left has been drinking water from the lake. I maintained that those who want to destroy the economy and life as we have know it were “pond scum”, I guess this proves it.
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 1:59pmJC, you got that right liberals and progressives are poison to any and every society.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {mix art}
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:04pm@The Blazers
In the original Star Trek series, was not the vulcan blood based on copper, as human blood is on iron? Wonder if any ET life forms could be based upon that?
Report Post »TheMysterian
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:07pmMy thoughts exactly!
Report Post »spendthrift
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:08pmArsenic eating bacteria found in Mono Lake? Wonder if they would eat progressives in D.C.?
Report Post »booger71
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:11pmYou beat me to it
Report Post »booger71
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 2:12pm“Come off it. Why do you have to stoop to namecalling? Comment on the article or shut up.”
No one on this board has to shut up
Report Post »Sunnyr
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:00pmThank you, thank you!! lol!!!
Report Post »KEA
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:19pmDitto, Post of the DAY!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 3:59pmLOL … yes … no surprise here … bottom feeding liberals.
Report Post »me
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 4:13pmahahahahahahaahaahhahhahhahhaha…d*ck
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 4:59pmWhy am I not surprised that this would be the very first comment – always against liberals – why all the hate for liberals? There are many liberals who have the same feeling about certain issues as you do – you all are making sweeping generalizations on the site about liberals and progressives – we are not all alike – there are many who actually do use their brains, do research and have some of the same goals that you do. Stop hating – the hating will destroy our country faster than anything else.
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moonpeace
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 6:47pmSee, I told you so. The state of Pennsylvania has been telling me for five years now that I have been trying to murder my wife. Now the truth is out, and we know now that all that arsenic I have been feeding her throughout the years was really meant to improve her life. Alas, I am innocent!
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 8:07pmJack Parson’s Moonchild
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tower7femacamp
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 8:08pmMaybe the Aliens can live on Sodium Fluoride ?
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 8:23pmlife finds a way…………….
Report Post »jb1972
Posted on December 2, 2010 at 8:46pmAKA.. Nancitis Pelosis
Report Post »jzs
Posted on December 3, 2010 at 12:18amOne thing can be determined with certainty from the posts on this topic, if not on most. This is not an intellectual crowd, nor an educated one. Pretty sad that our public schools have not done a better job in science education.
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