NATO: U.S. Service Member Held in Mass Shootings of Afghan Civilians
- Posted on March 11, 2012 at 7:45am by
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An elderly Afghan man sits next to the covered body of a person who was allegedly killed by a U.S. service member, in a minibus in Panjwai, Kandahar province south of Kabul, Afghanistan, Sunday, March 11, 2012. (AP Photo/Allauddin Khan)
BALANDI, Afghanistan (AP) — A U.S. service member walked out of a base in southern Afghanistan before dawn Sunday and started shooting Afghan civilians, according to villagers and Afghan and NATO officials. Villagers showed an Associated Press photographer 15 bodies, including women and children, who they said were killed by the American.
The shooting could deepen strife between U.S. forces and their Afghan hosts just as weeks of violence set off by the burning of Muslim holy books at a U.S. base had started to die down. The burnings sparked violent protests and attacks that killed some 30 people. Six U.S. service members have been killed in attacks by their Afghan colleagues since the Quran burnings came to light.
NATO officials apologized for Sunday’s shootings.
A man sits in the back of a truck with the bodies of several men and a child allegedly killed by a U.S. service member in Panjwai, Kandahar province south of Kabul, Afghanistan, Sunday, March 11, 2012. A U.S. service member walked out of a base in southern Afghanistan before dawn Sunday and started shooting Afghan civilians, according to villagers and Afghan and NATO officials. Villagers showed an Associated Press photographer 15 bodies, including women and children, and alleged they were killed by the American. (AP Photo/Allauddin Khan)
“I wish to convey my profound regrets and dismay at the actions apparently taken by one coalition member in Kandahar province, said a statement from Lt. Gen. Adrian Bradshaw, the deputy commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan.
“One of our soldiers is reported to have killed and injured a number of civilians in villages adjacent to his base. I cannot explain the motivation behind such callous acts, but they were in no way part of authorized ISAF military activity,” he said, using the abbreviation for NATO’s International Security Assistance Force.
NATO spokesman Justin Brockhoff said a U.S. service member had been detained at a NATO base as the alleged shooter. The casualties were evacuated to NATO medical facilities, he added.
The incident took place in two villages in the Panjwai district of southern Kandahar province. The villages – Balandi and Alkozai – are about 500 yards (meters) away from a U.S. base. The shooting started around 3 a.m., said Asadullah Khalid, the government representative for southern Afghanistan and a member of the delegation that went to investigate the incident.
A resident of the village of Alkozai, Abdul Baqi, told the AP that, based on accounts of his neighbors, the American gunman went into three different houses and opened fire.
“When it was happening in the middle of the night, we were inside our houses. I heard gunshots and then silence and then gunshots again,” Baqi said. There was no immediate verification of his account.
Helicopters were circling overhead in the village as a delegation from the Kandahar province Gov. Tooryalai Wesa’s office arrived to determine exactly what happened in Alkozai and nearby Balandi village.
Reuters
There were reports of protests in Panjwai following the shooting and the U.S. embassy warned travelers in Kandahar province to “exercise caution.”
An AP photographer saw 15 bodies between the two villages. Some of the bodies had been burned, while others were covered with blankets.
Khalid, the government representative, said he had tallied 16 dead, a number that matched accounts from villagers.
Twelve of the dead were from Balandi, said Samad Khan, a farmer who lost all 11 members of his family, including women and children. Khan was away from the village when the incident occurred and returned to find his family members shot and burned. One of his neighbors was also killed, he said.
“This is an anti-human and anti-Islamic act,” said Khan. “Nobody is allowed in any religion in the world to kill children and women.”
Khan demanded that Afghan President Hamid Karzai punish the American shooter.
“Otherwise we will make a decision,” said Khan. “He should be handed over to us.”
Residents in Alkozai village also demanded that Karzai punish the American or hand him over to the villagers. The four people killed in the village were all from one family, said a female relative who was shouting in anger. She did not give her name because of the conservative nature of local society.
“No Taliban were here. No gunbattle was going on,” said the woman. “We don’t know why this foreign soldier came and killed our innocent family members. Either he was drunk or he was enjoying killing civilians.”
The Taliban called the shootings the latest sign that international forces are working against the Afghan people.
“The so-called American peace keepers have once again quenched their thirst with the blood of innocent Afghan civilians in Kandahar province,” The Taliban said in a statement posted on a website used by the insurgent group.
Just as news of the incident started to break, Karzai stressed the importance of foreign forces leaving Afghanistan to preserve the country’s national sovereignty in a speech at a public even in Kabul.
Any international forces that remain after 2014 – when Afghans are scheduled to take over responsibility for security countrywide – would have to operate under strict guidelines governing their responsibilities and when they could leave their bases, he said.
“We have a strong army and police, so it is to our benefit to have good relations with the international community, not have international troops in our country,” Karzai said. His office had no immediate comment on the shootings in Kandahar.
The president has demanded that international forces stop night raids on the homes of suspected militants as a condition to signing the strategic partnership agreement.
The raids have caused widespread anger among Afghans, who say civilians too often end up the victims of violence or indignities during the raids.
Some of the most egregious examples of misconduct, however, have not come from night raids.
Four soldiers from a Stryker brigade out of Lewis-McChord, Washington, were sent to prison in connection with the 2010 killings of three unarmed men during patrols in Kandahar province’s Maiwand district, which is just northwest of Panjwai. They were accused of forming a “kill team” that murdered Afghan civilians for sport – slaughtering victims with grenades and powerful machine guns during patrols, then dropping weapons near their bodies to make them appear to have been combatants.
And in January, before the Quran burning incident, a video that purportedly showed U.S. Marines urinated on corpses of men they had killed sparked widespread outrage.
President Barack Obama has apologized for the Quran burnings and said they were a mistake.
This post has been updated since it was first published.
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TyrannyNoMore
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:07amI am surprised there are not more soldiers snapping in this manner, after seeing their brothers in arms murdered because of the burning of a friggen book ! It is time to bring them all home and rebuild our military. After they are all home, as a departing gift, nuke the Kaaba in Mecca !
Report Post »momrules
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:58amAbsolutely right. I always thought that damned rock would make a great target.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:07amimagine your son or daughter was lying dead in the back of that truck – do you think you would go nuts on whoever was responsible??? There is no doubt i would become mel gibson in ‘the patriot’
Our troops are and should be trained to kill. This peacekeeping stuff is for the birds. The war is over – bring them home. Let the afgans handle their own business like they always have
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:33amI agree we are DONE there…..
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:43amI’ll wait for more details on this. American soldier or terrorist? Or one & the same? If it was an American soldier, why did he do it? Don’t forget the Ft Hood shooter.
And I agree – bring our troops home. If you‘re going to fight a war you don’t do it by piddling around. Either you fight it to win it or you stay home.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:48amThe Afghan Enemy Does Not Wear Uniforms So Everyone Attacking NATO Is An Enemy
The Afghan enemy finds some little kid who just died of food poisoning and claims he was shot by a NATO soldier.
Why was this soldier the only one who shot 16 people?
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:52amObama Will Be Held Responsible For This.
If all of our troops open fire on the Enemy, the war would be won, is Obama going to blame everything on our troops. Its Obama’s War now, he promised to end it two years ago but he likes killing people.. Where are the women, none of them were killed.
Report Post »79USMC83
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:24pmWe can hear it now Bush’s fault for defending our country after 9/11. “The Speech Giver’s ” fault for the surge and giving apologies as our troops are gunned down and blown up daily by EVIL Jihadist !!
Political Warfare does not work and drone attacks are nothing but snipers from the AIR !!! All out bombardment and 824 Spec-Ops pushed the Tailiban OUT into Pakistan in 2001. Pull out the troops, Bring in the B-52′s and level the Northern tribal regions of Pakistan !!
Report Post »flavsngrace
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:49pmwell said. lets get out of there….
Report Post »MadIvan
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:55pmYou hit the nail on the head Soybomb315. We need to bring them home and prepare for the real war about to start over there… By preparing for it, we may avoid it. Weakening our forces to the point we have random shooting sprees only emboldens Iran in their plans against Israel.
Report Post »Conservative Hippy
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:56pmI bet the will find he killed the relatives of the Afgan soldiers that turned on and killed American soldiers, sounds like he targeted 3-4 families. Not saying its right or anything, just that its explainable.
Report Post »Conservative Hippy
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:58pmsounds like he took out 3 families… I bet investigation will find they are the families of the Afgan soldiers that
Report Post »marvinsaunders69
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:10pmWe are the only ones (American Forces) that are held to:
Report Post »Geneva Convention
Rules of Engagement
Blah, Blah, Blah.
The brought the fight to us. Where was the U.N. condemning the beheading, capturing, detaining of contractors, civilians that are noncombatants? Where was Obummuh? Siding with the Muslims, that is where. Have our soldiers, marines, sailors, and airmen to fight by the same rules as the chickenshit taliban. Let’s even the playing field. I have no sympathy. Many of the civilians in Afghanistan play both sides of the coin, and if they are called on it. So be it. As far as I am concerned the “detainees” in our prisons have no rights. What about the rights of the dead from the fight you brought to us on our soil.
Let the Generals and leaders run the war. Do NOT allow politicians run the war. This is what you get. Complete the mission, and let Israel do as they wish. Unfortunately we cannot embrace isolationism. I really wish we could. Take the illegal aliens who want to be here so badly, issue a weapon, and fight for their new found home. Hold EVERYONE to the SAME standard. Get “the bum” out of the white house and put someone in there with morals and values with the best interest of America at heart.
I served for eleven years, before I received a medical discharge, and repeatedly shunned by the worthless VA.
lukerw
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:19pmTheir “Business” & Economy is based upon Opium! This is part of a “war on Drugs”… not Peace Keeping nor Defeating an Enemy.
You must state your position upon Drug Prevention or Legalization… and how to deal with the Mexican Boarder — this is the reason for the Afgan support!
Report Post »pavepaws
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:37pm“This is an anti-human and anti-Islamic act,” said Khan. “Nobody is allowed in any religion in the world to kill children and women.” This shooting is heinous and tragic and apparently unjustified. Judging from the farmer’s comments though, what religion does he belong to?
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:52pmUSA! USA! USA! We are Exceptional! We are righteous! We are here to instill Democracy! When we slaughter it’s really good for you. We are here to promote Democracy and help the women. USA! USA! USA! Says the ignorant deceived Christian Zionist Neo-Con after watching a few hours of FOX News.
4Trillion pissed away over the past decade Neo-Cons? How many dead US Soldiers? How many injured? What’s the cost for ramping up the VA going forward? What about the 10s of thousands of innocent Iraqis and Afghan and Pakistan civilians slaughtered in our cross fire? Do you even give a damn you wicked people? Hell no you don’t care for you are a wicked people under the poison of Jewish propaganda! You think you are doing the work of God?
OMG you are a sick people. Will you pinch yourselves please! I see more and more coming to their senses but how long does it take? Seriously? I’ve literally seen smarter sheep! Your masters Beck and Gingrich are even beginning to question the mission in Afghanistan… but not ole Rick, he’s still trying to get him a Jewish billionaire behind him his campaign so he’s advocating more War even World War for the sake of Israel and his campaign!
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:16pmObama Has Brought Shame On The American People With His Massacre In Afghanistan
Americans across the nation and Moslems around the World are demanding that Obama resign for this horrible act. Department of Defense Leon E. Panetta should be arrested for this War Crime. If Panetta was just followng Obama’s orders than both must pay the penalty. Panetta must be replaced immediately. The new President Joe Biden should go on national TV and explain to the American people what really happened.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:16pmmarvinsaunders69
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:10pm
We are the only ones (American Forces) that are held to:
Geneva Convention
Rules of Engagement
You sound like a somewhat capable individual. Do you really believe that the Arabs brought it to us? You are intelligent aren’t you? Do you really think this started on Sept 11, 2001? Are you going to over the look the past 100 years in particularly the past 50? A Nation can’t place their freaking Army in Foreign lands and then act shocked once they attack back? Are you so deceived to think that Arabs are evil for desire for the US Military to not be in their lands? Please get off the Crack.
As for your rules of engagement and the Geneva Convention let me test your historical knowledge for a moment and ask did Eisenhower and the USA abide by the Geneva Convention during the immediate period follow WW2 where up to 2 Million Germans were allowed to die in POW camps when there was plenty of food and lodging for everyone. Do tell Marvin. Oh I’m sure you are very familiar with it right? I‘m sure Hollywood made dozens of movies concerning the murder of million of German POWs after WW2 didn’t they? lol
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:23pmDemocrat[-Commie Party Gives Away Another Part Of The World To Communists
1. Truman gives Eastern Europe to Russia
Report Post »2. Truman gives China away to Communist Chinese
3. Truman gives North Korea away to Communist Koreans
4. Kennedy gives Cuba away to the Communists.
5. Democrats give South Vietnam to the North Vietnamese.
6. Obama surrenders Iraqi
7. Obama now orders massacre so he can surrender Afghanistan to Iran.
8. Democrats surrender entire Moslem world of 3 billion people to radical Islamic Terrorists.
TheCoffinMaker
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:24pmJust a minor tidbit, we have spent over $100,000,000.00 dollars in Afghanistan installing cell phone towers!!!!!!!!
Imagine that sort of investment in OUR country!
We are being bled to death.
Report Post »TheCoffinMaker
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:29pmHopefully, this incident will bring our troops home from that God forsaken hell hole!
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 3:05pmteamarcheson
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:23pm
Democrat[-Commie Party Gives Away Another Part Of The World To Communists
There’s a lot of truth in your post but please do not be deceived into thinking this very same ideology has not penetrated the upper echelons of the Republican Party as well. Most especially amonth the Neo-Con elite.
Report Post »cuinsong
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 3:36pmWe now have one of our nut cases let go on innocent people. This idiot has made us look like we are just as bad as any other terrorist! I can’t think of anything more heinous then busting down some ones door and shooting them while their sleeping when you are supposed to be their protector! This one guy has done more in this one act to help bring on a world war then any thing else We have done lately. If this guy is truly an American and not Muslim American then you better speak out about our own idiot &hit brained people or we will be just like the others and no better justified!
Report Post »This song gets more and more true! “The End Times” http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_10381143
conservativesteve1960
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 4:33pmAgreed, bring them home, we have plenty of work for all our military
Report Post »Like protect our borders, air, land and sea…
PASSIONFORCHRIST
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 5:28pmThis COULDN’T BE A SET UP, COULD IT? I agree 100%, BRING OUR TROOPS HOME, LET THE UNITED NOTHING TAKE CARE OF IT! WITHOUT OUR MONEY!!!!!!!
Report Post »VanceUppercut
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 7:55pm@teamarcheson
Report Post »1. Truman gives Eastern Europe to Russia
The fact that Russia had the largest standing army in the world at the time (and also that the USSR had been an ally in the war from Barbarossa on) might have had something to do with it.
2. Truman gives China away to Communist Chinese
Nobody gave anything to anybody.
3. Truman gives North Korea away to Communist Koreans
The birth of Communist Korea has it’s roots in WW2. Taking out the Communist North
would’ve meant going to war with Russia. Truman would later go to war with N. Korea in defense of S. Korea.
4. Kennedy gives Cuba away to the Communists.
The Communists were never going to be taken down by the exiles. This would’ve required a war between Cuba and the U.S..
5. Democrats give South Vietnam to the North Vietnamese.
Johnson, a Democrat, is the one who took the country into all-out war in Vietnam, and Nixon, a Republican is the one who pulled out of Vietnam. Your point here is just perplexing.
6. Obama surrenders Iraqi
Obama did not “surrender Iraqi” (whatever that means). The end date for the withdrawal of American forces was agreed to between the Iraqis and Dubya’s admin.
7. Obama now orders massacre so he can surrender Afghanistan to Iran.
Was this right after he killed Elvis and sabotaged the Challenger shuttle? This is ludicrous.
8. Democrats surrender entire Moslem world of 3 billion people to radical Islamic Terrorists.
The Moslem world in not America’s to surrender.
red_white_blue2
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 7:57pmCome home, and reassign them to the Mexican Border–I hear there’s no peace keeping there, and the area is ripe with “justified” opportunity!
Report Post »Holyfields_Good_Ear
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:07pmAgreed, if “BHO” thought things were bad after the Koran burning you just wait until tomorrow… I hope that base has extra troops manning their front gate.
Report Post »Uranium Wedge
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:51pmHow bought we wait until all the facts come out…
Report Post »Just seams fishy.
Restored One
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:12pmGet our troops out NOW! Nuff said. Now, pack your bags boys. It is time that there is not another US service members boots put on the ground over there. Done! It is now time for M.A.D to be put into play. I am tired of this crap. Secure out borders,our international fly zones here and our international sea borders. This is not a man v man war. Our men are overloaded and for every stupid thing that they do, we here in America are going to pay a HUGE price. 16-20 innocent dead in a hell hole will equal thousands of us killed here in our own country. Sad, so very sad!
Report Post »americansfightingforcommonsense
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:15pmI keep hearing that we have GNGS in our military. I that what this is? Do we have rogue Men and women who are doing their own thing instead of following orders? I am not sure what is going on here, but I sure would like some straight answers. Of course this administration will never do that.
Report Post »americansfightingforcommonsense
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:17pmSorry, that was “GANGS in our military!”
Report Post »stifroc
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:37pm@ techengineer11
Ummmm what are you ranting about? I haven’t seen anyone applauding this event, or even the war. Nobody here is happy about the trillions wasted over there. Are you sure you are posting in the right thread? The guy talkin about the Geneva convention was clearly stating that when one side abides by such rules, and the other doesn’t, the one side is fighting with a hand tied behind the back. So you fly off the handle about WWII history as though that is what he was talking about. Huh? He’s not talking about +60 years ago, he’s talking about the here and now. I mean you sound like you have some level of education but you are so clouded with hate and venom that you #1 cant generate a concise point or argument, and #2 expose yourself as being cut from the same cloth as you blast others for being.
Just step away from your keyboard, and go have a nice cup of warm milk or camomile tea.
Report Post »db321
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 12:40amThis smells of a set up – we need to get our troops out now – Obama’s weak spine has rallied these idiots – once we leave – Karzai will be dead in less than a month – the Taliban will take over and 1000′s will be killed, tortured or captive.
US OUT NOW!
Report Post »balrog25
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:52amAn American soldier that does something like this reached the end of his rope. As we pray for the lost, please also pray for this one who lost his way. God be with him in his torment. Amen.
As Elijah needed rest and care in his battles with the forces of Baal, so do our forces in their battle with radical Islam. Bring them back into the fold, strengthen them, for we have many battles ahead. God be with us.
Report Post »BeingThere
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:51amBring the troops home. The entire country of Afghanistan and every living thing in it is not worth one American life!!!
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:20amThis wouldn‘t have happened if Taliban hadn’t persuaded Afghan soldiers to shoot their American counter parts. That is too much stress for some.
Did the Afghan government hang any of those who killed American soldier while wearing Afghan uniform?
Masood, the Lion of Panshir is long since dead. We owe these people nothing. They have had over 1/2 generation to to get on their feet.
Time to leave. See if Uzbekistan, China & Russia like more fundamentalist Muslims causing problems.
Report Post »Gamaliel
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:51pmAgree with you there!
Report Post »All Pro
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:31amThe following poem is dedicated to Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, Barack Obama and the rest of the war-mongering-yet-never-served-chickenhawk-politicians. Especially you, Rick.
Allow me to first clarify something: I am NOT anti-war. Sometimes, there is a legitimate threat to the people of this nation. When those times occur, we ask only that our government give us a clear and defined mission, that a Declaration of War is made by Congress and that you let us bring the full might of the American Military to bear upon the enemy, let us fight to win, not with our hands bound by red tape and bureaucratic bull****. Let us destroy the enemy and return home when the task is completed. I assure you, the American Military is still quite capable of winning wars, if we are allowed to fight them the way we know how and we are actually guided by our Constitution that we swore an oath to defend.
No, I am not anti-war.
I am, however, opposed to the unconstitutional, unnecessary, undeclared “wars” promoted by the political hacks who have never had the guts to put their own ass on the line, yet don’t bat an eye at sending other people’s son’s and daughters to be maimed and killed in some foreign land that poses no threat to our national security.
I’m talking to you, the politicians who have broken the oath that you took when you were sworn into office. You have taken brothers from me, men that were closer than family. Your policies have left an epidemic
Report Post »All Pro
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:38amI’m talking to you, the politicians who have broken the oath that you took when you were sworn into office. You have taken brothers from me, men that were closer than family. Your policies have left an epidemic of suicides, depression and broken homes across this great nation. All because you chose power and position over honor and loyalty.
And, as l much as I hate to admit it, these warriors have died in vain. Their deaths were unnecessary. They trusted in you, our elected lawmakers to make the right decisions… and you failed their trust in the worst way possible. For that, I will never forgive you.
Fires of Dissent
The rhetoric sounds familiar,
And we’ve heard it all before,
You beat the drums and pump your fist,
And make your case for war.
It’s easy to sell destruction,
When your own kids won’t have to bleed,
And your own body won’t be broken,
By the war machine you feed.
And it’s all just a game to you,
Just numbers on a screen,
And the body count’s not real to you,
And you’ll never hear the screams.
Of the children and the mothers,
Whose fathers and sons you’ll take,
With lies and propaganda,
And decisions that you make.
But those of us who’ve been there,
And fought your dirty little wars,
Can see through your eyes and your disguise,
As you cry out again for more.
And the message that we have for you,
Report Post »Is simple and it’s clear,
Our voices won’t be silenced,
Your threats we do not
techengineer11
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:58pmUSA! USA! USA! We are Exceptional! We are righteous! We are here to instill Democracy! When we slaughter it’s really good for you. We are here to promote Democracy and help the women. USA! USA! USA! Says the ignorant deceived Christian Zionist Neo-Con after watching a few hours of FOX News.
Now ALL PRO do you think that you are the only one entitled to this good ole American Democracy? After all things are so so great in America now aren’t they? Crime is down homocides are down abortion down, drug use down? Porn business is in retreat. Unity is thriving. We are one! We are America! We are exception ALL PRO and don’t you forget it. It’s up to us to save the world! No matter who has to die for it the goal is good! World Wide Demcocracy for all! We have plent of worthless souls to sacrifice for it and our cash register is teeming with excess! Let’s Roll!
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:15pmTECHENGINEER11, You certainly sound more hateful than the soldier who committed this heinous act.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 3:11pmRJJinGadsden: I wish you’d elaborate on that.. I’m not sure I understand; however, make no mistake about it I’m utterly disgusted with the new US foreign policy for pretty much the past century but most especially in the past two decades.
Question: Who is more justified the American murdering Afghan civilians or the Taliban killing American soldiers? And once again please explain why I”m so hateful. So going into Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan, Libya, and Iran in the near future is all based upon Love correct? We love them so much don’t we?
Report Post »Hickory
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:30amHow about the Americans they killed? The time has come to pull our troops out and nuke the whole place.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:10pmChristian or Jewish? So since you can’t completely dominate a people you desire a Genocide? Interesting thoughts Hickory.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 5:14pmThey have had what 5000 years of recorded history to leave the world, hey plain and simple just want. It’s time they all go once and for all.
Report Post »celestialfire
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:26amThere must be more to this story than meets the eye, a nato spokes person states “it was not clear if the shooter knew the victims.” What?
Report Post »chips1
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 3:15pmDid I miss something? The title “American Soldier” has been used throughout the story, yet no proof was included. It’s possible it was a hyphenated American. More info needs to be revealed before I agree with it. Seems like it was avoided in order to please the Obama army.
Report Post »celestialfire
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 4:43pmThe stories must be edited as they are updated. I couldn’t find the original transcript as it appeared here, but this comment is the exact same.
http://www.incyprus.com.cy/en-gb/world-news/4329/26379/official-us-troop-opened-fire-on-afghan-civilians The service member was being held at a NATO base and US forces are investigating the shooting in cooperation with Afghan authorities, Brockhoff said. He said it was not clear if the alleged shooter knew the victims.
Report Post »normbal
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:24amRelax. It will all be fine when The Obama gives his apology.
He has told us so. And so it will be.
All praise The Obama.
Report Post »scrapadapolis
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:24amWhats not being said is our soldiers cant shoot unarmed taliban when they put down their guns and flag there asses at them then go back in hiding and start shooting again.This soldier got fed up and said screw that rule of war.They don’t follow US rules.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:56amThey can’t shoot unarmed people? Duh! it’s called murder and it is rightfully unlawful.The good news about this story is that unlike that murderer alan west-this american in uniform is being held and will be prosecuted for killing civilians.-by his own fellow americans in uniform.he’ll be imprisoned for years to come too.That is good news -american s doing the bidding of afghan civilians by prosecuting this terrorist.If there were real justice west would be on trial along side this terrorist.i stand with the victims of american agression in afghanistan,iraq etc.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:41amrose-ellen
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Ditto Head
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:43am@ROSE
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USAPLISKENXI
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:51amNo such thing war is war all are guilty us and them the more ugly you win
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COFemale
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:05pmWhy not Rose-Ellen Muslims do it all the time. Guess this soldier decided an eye for an eye. Please tell when a Muslim hasn’t just gone out and killed OUR American soldiers in cold-blood. Why it just happened about a week or two ago. I guess that does not count in your book.
Whether it be on American soil or foreign, Muslims have killed innocents. So don’t make them like they are all victims.
Now don’t get me wrong, what this soldier did is just as WRONG as all those Muslims who kill innocents also. I found it funny when the Taliban tried to pass themselves off as the peaceful bunch. Hell they are the biggest animals and killer of their own people than any other group and the biggest oppressors. Anyone who throws rocks to kill someone needs to grow up and come into the 21st century. Muslims are the ones who kill for sport.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:07pmrose-ellen
The World Trade Center had a day care center. Besides that the people in the World trade Center were civilian & included women.
There have been plots to shoot up shopping malls. A person would be 100% sure of finding civilians at a mall & a 1% or less chance of finding American Service personnel.
The Jihadis have been committing un-Islamic acts since 1993 if not before.
Allah will judge you Rose-Ellen & cast you into HeII.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 3:14pm@ROSE…
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BO_Bill
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:19amThe answer to most of the back and forth is an old tried and true military strategy for pacifying a population. The President of the United States should clearly communicate to the Afghan people that for every American shot in cold blood, ten random Afghans will meet the same fate.
Our people would be safer, and so would theirs. Not like anyone in the current human bio-diversity denialist New World Order power structure has the balls or desire to acknowledge this reality, but it should be something to keep in mind for future operations.
Calling this President’s stance on Afghanistan dangerously naïve is giving him the benefit of the doubt. President Obama is fully aware of the demographic makeup of American combat arms units, and sat in those church pews for twenty years.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:44amDecimation? Yeah, not a great idea. Getting out of Afghanistan? Now there’s a plan we can get behind.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:33pmyou invade a country and the people are morally justified to resist .you all know and believe that yourselves so this is just posturing about the fact you’re angry they fight back. hypocrisy,lies and thin skinned false narrative to mask the fact they dare fight back. a bunch of backward illiterate stone age people. but they fight back. i stand with them.in your heart of hearts you know you would do the same if invaded and occupied. lieing thin skinned gulls.you don’t fool anyone-least of all those barbaric 13th c afghans. even backward people have the right to defend themselves.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:38pmkeep dreaming your genocidal tough guy narrative. the reality is we have no business occupying them and they have every right to defend and resist occupation.good luck trying to get your politicians to sign on to your dreams.more media fed fantasies but totally impotant on the ground.rail all you want-that american murderer is being held and will be prosecuted for killing afghans-he’ll be prosecuted by americans!as he should be.get your candidates to say other wise!
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:13pmPart of the strategy of handing over the war to the Afghans is to embed American service personnel 2 advisers here or a platoon of soldiers with a platoon of Afghans. That is a lot of stress for a person to be under. Soldiers in the current military have been in combat longer than those in WWII.
When German soldiers were caught during the Battle of the Bulge in American uniform they were shot (there were no appeals or years in jail). I don’t remember if it was on the spot.
We are given no news on the Taliban plants or defectors to the Taliban who shot American soldiers in the back while in Afghan Army uniform.
Were they shot? One got away. When they are captured are they executed as spies?
The news media has let us down as has Karzai & Obama.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:13pm@rose-ellen
Are you saying the Afghan people who welcomed NATO forces so they could be freed from the sadistic & barbaric rule of the terroristic Taliban are immoral? Are you saying the Afghan people who want the NATO forces to stay & keep the Taliban from re-gaining power immoral? Are you saying the current Afghan government is immoral? Don’t get me wrong, I’d be happy to see our troops brought home. As far as I’m concerned that entire country of “backward illiterate stone age people” can go right back to starving, stoning, raping, torturing, beheading, murdering & fighting each other.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 8:49amBo Bill
Random executions is a war winning tact? The Nazi’s tried it. Random executions worked well up to the point they lost WWII.
Report Post »hempstead1944
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:57amApparently, grew tired of walking around with a bullseye on his back and decided to shoot some shooters. No American should condem this guy…..for any reason.
Report Post »NuttinPhucks
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:23amI have read a lot of shocking comments on the Blaze, but supporting the slaughter of civillian women and children and saying he should have shot more is just disgusting. This soldier has gone off the rails.
Report Post »flyoverbob
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:41pmIt is sad to see,but I can tell you I am surprised it doesn’t happen more often.These young people are put under terrible pressure by their leaders and the rules of engagement.
Report Post »They have a commander in chief who does not have any qualms about tying their hands and putting them on the line.He apologizes for burning a few defaced korans,while our brave people are killed.If he was a stand up person,he would have told them tough,they were using these books to pass messages.
I am a Vietnam veteran,when you see your friends killede or wounded and you know where it came from,it’s hard to restrain yourself.And the fact is sometimes it’s just too much and they snap.
I am sorry for the innocents in this,but I will tell you thisfor sure,they were not all innocent.Whatever they tell you this wasn’ all random.Theres a reason he went into those homes.Someone in there has responsibility also,but don’t expect to hear about that..
Like I said I am a veteran of Vietnam.I was one of the many who were drafted and fought that war.I think that made a difference for us,we had an attitude,we did not volunteer so we were more defiant.We had rules of engagement too,but for the most part ignored them.I spent most of my time in a free fire zone,which meant if it moved shoot it.When my unit went to a zone that required that you not chamber a round unless told to or fired on,we ignored that.If we were given a mission that was obviously suicide,we refused.
Bring them home,you wont let them win.
rose-ellen
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:37pmJust shows how mallable you are. you went there to get alquada then you were told you’re there to bring them freedom even though they neveer asked to be free of the taliban.whatever you’re told-you believe.you‘re killing to topple taliban or you’re klling to bring them into the modern age. whatever.the reality is you are too gulled and manipulated to see that you’re at war with the people of afghanistan.the taliban are the people of afghanistan.just like viet nam-fighting the people of the country then whine that they don’t fight fair.they hide behind civilians-blah ,blah blah-they don’t hide behind civilians-they AREthe civilians resisting your invasion and occupation.they rightfully allowed alquada to train there as alquada helped them topple the soviet invasion.that’s the extent of their connection .they neither knew or cared about alquadas beef with the west[propping up dictators in arab countries and the first gulf war and the pro israeli one sided policies ,etc].their backward ways are cultural.alquada was a natural ally for us-as they oppossed dictatorships but we for cold war and cheap oil interests supported the oppression of arabs by dictators.alquada were freedom fighters.if we cared about freedom we would have supported alquadas anti mid east dictators.instead because we benefitted -we supported tyranny over arabs by dictators. hence alquadas attacks. we were not innocent. had they been able to only target military they would have. we also target civilians
Report Post »drago
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:40amYea, he just walked off base, and went on a shooting rampage, my ass.Just because some backward muslim caveman says it happened, doesnt mean its so, like those people wouldnt lie.Just kill em all and let God sort the out, and bring our troops home.
Report Post »Marsh626
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:38amIt was only a matter of time.
Afghan soldiers and police have killed or wounded over 200 allied troops in insider attacks.
It was only a matter of time before some allied soldiers went beserk and carried out revenge attacks.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:37amI don‘t know what really happened anymore than any one here does but maybe he just couldn’t take it anymore. Couldn‘t take a CinC that won’t stand behind him and his fellow soldiers or watching the savages got to fight to win while his hands were ties behind his back.
Maybe this soldier knows things, has seen things that finally sent him into the same rage that his enemies display every day
As I said, I don’t know the answers but I will stand up for him until I do.
This soldier is in more danger now than he probably has ever been in. Remember who is President of the United States. He will get no help there.
Report Post »mikee1
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:37amThis is exactly what THEY HAVE BEEN DOING TO OUR SOLDIERS FOR YEARS. ELITE AMERICAN POLITICIANS have forced our soldiers into a PC DEATH TRAP IN THEIR PC WARS. This soldier DESERVES THE MEDAL OF HONOR. There should be a MILITARY COUP. OUR ENTIRE COMBAT ARMY SHOULD SUPPORT THIS MAN. TURN ON THE POLITICIANS AND MILITARY LAWYERS. TAKE THEM OUT. MILITARY COUP NOW. WE LIVE IN A COMMUNIST COUNTRY TODAY. COMMUNIST COUNTRIES ARE RULED BY THE SWORD. IT IS COMING.
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:11pmDid anyone ever tell you it is impolite to yell on the Internet. It is called Netiquette. Please from now on, use your indoor voice.
Report Post »Sue of AZ
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:34amOMG, I blame our President for this. I really believe that his decisions have caused this. He is weak and has let our soldiers down.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:07amHe is always spouting off about being “Command in Chief” … but only when it is a good thing…. I agree … this is on Obama.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:55amYou are correct to blame obama’s lack of leadership. I don’t agree with this soldiers actions if in fact it happened as printed. That said our soldiers are between a rock and a hard place- They are forced to work alongside people that will shoot them in the back at any time. This has been proven over 200 times in the past. Yet not a word out of obama that it had to stop. The bastard don’t care about our troops.
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Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:15amI don’t condone this type of thing at all. If found guilty (under American military law), this soldier should be punished severely. Another tragedy is about to come of this I fear. Our own media will make far more of this act by a lone soldier than it did the organized killings of American troops over the Koran burning incident. Obama will probably fall in line with this.
Report Post »Tony
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:29amDon’t take anything reported out of that part of the world on “face value” and especially if released by our media or the media of NATO. Just say’n….
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Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:35amDOUGRAL and TONY. Agree with both of your comments.
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Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:56amOkay… here we go, the anti-war anti-Military Code-Pink pacifist isolationists will have a field day with this. Warrrrrr-mongererrrrrs, un-Consititutional illegal warrrrrrs, murdererrrrrs, baby killerrrrs blah-blah-blah. I can see the Ron Paul commercials on here nowwwwwww.
Bad things happen in bad places where guns and stress are present. This kind of action of course can’t be condoned, but let’s not start insulting the troops Ron Paul fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah… we know you’re on their side, yeah, yeah, yeah, just like the left, same talking points from boths sides of your Democrat Party mouths.
Watch how you word your anti-war rants, or you might PO real patriots and Military members here.
Report Post »IndyGuy
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:03amTime to pull out…Afghani‘s aren’t worth one more drop of our blood…
Report Post »justangry
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:04amI wouldn’t dare insult our boys. You know that. I feel the same way you do, and I’ll be right there with you if any Paul supporters talk crap about our boys.
Report Post »scuba13
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:05amAnd don’t forget all of the apologies that will be coming from Obama and this administration.
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Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:16amINDYGUY. Have no problem with your comment. Our intentions were noble. IMO it Is time to get out of there. Let the chips fall where they may. If we have to go back (like Iraq)… it’s with the intention of turning the place into glass, along with the animals that inhabit that place. I have no fondness for any of those animals over there.
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Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:20amJUST. I know, my comment is not mean’t necessarily for you, but your comrades walk a fine line… especially the posers who say they served and never stepped a foot away from their “puters.” You are not part of the group I write about.
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Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:26amSCUBA. That’s a given. We have two camps of apologizers out there though. The regulars from the left, and the carpet bag’grs on the right who run with Ron Paul.
Report Post »texasnellie
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:37amYou know that 67% of our military support Paul. I don’t understand your hostility. It is sad this happened, we need to bring our troops home. Stop this nation building and concentrate on our own nation because it may not been here much longer.
Report Post »There is nothing wrong with any of our GOP candidates, anyone but Obama.
JoeFX
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:45amRon Paul fans don’t insult the military. If you do just a little bit of reading you’ll see that Dr. Paul gets just about all of his campaign funds from active duty military and vets. But you keep right on feeding the war machine with your idiocy so our kids and theirs can be indentured servants.
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Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:51amTEXASNELLIE. That figure is absolute horse dookey. Ron Paul has very little Acitive Military support. What he has (for the most part) is a mish mash of disgruntled Vets, dishonered Vets (like Adam Kokesh types), dead enders, those who enlisted and couldn’t cut the mustard, some older isolationist (bunker mentality Vets) and posers. There are some (SOME) who like Paul, and to those I say… being a Vet doesn’t prevent you from being naive.
The donation ruse of Paul‘s has been debunked more times than people stating Nancy Pelosi’s face never saw a BOTOX needle or a knife.
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Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:55amJOE.
Every veteran of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan also have every reason to feel insulted by Ron Paul and his repeated characterizations of the wars as “illegal.” These statements are a personal affront to every veteran of the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:16amTime2
You do the same mischaracterization about ron paul supporters as the media does about the tea party (remember how they tried to tell us they were all gun crazed hicks?).
Find some ron paul supporters in your local area. I bet you will find them to be good people
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Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:28amSOYBEAN. I am a Tea Party member and have had to tell Ron Paul supporters to sit their rumps on the curb and STHU. Ron Paul supporters are what actually gives the decent people at Tea Party events a bad name. I have also throughout a very long career in the Military, dealt with Ron Paul supporters side-by-side their loving partners (Code-pink etc) and had to back them off Government property or have their arses handed to them. I was very willing to hand them their arses, but my Military bearing kept me from that enjoyable possibility.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:49amagain, you are talking about the exceptions not the rule
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Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:59amSOY. I can only relate to what I‘ve personally seen at Tea Party and other events I’ve attended, plus what I’ve encountered many, many times while in the Active Military with the anti-Military and anti-war crowd. It goes wayyyyy back with me, Ron Paul and his supporters AND the “other” left. You have no idea.
Report Post »Boycott the Media Let the People Decide
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:40pm“I can see the Ron Paul commercials on here nowwwwwww.”
Finally, you wake up to realize what Ron Paul has been saying is true…..
P.S. Your other B.S. claims on here about being a Tea Party supporter is a joke, there is no Tea Party anymore as it was hijacked from Paul to become an establishment movement now
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Posted on March 12, 2012 at 3:43am@ Time to End — “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win”
Report Post »Rweb
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:47amIf this is true this man needs help. He will likely never get it and given to these screw it I have to go throw up.
Report Post »oldironsides
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:37amObama‘s war doesn’t get many headlines, but to quote Sen Reid ‘ This war is lost!’
Report Post »EP46
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:02amobama’s “Rules of Engagement’ lost the war….how can we fight a War when he puts a ‘hold’ on the military and tells them to ‘play nice’?
Report Post »kenr1963
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:32amYep this is what Nation Building gets you just think of all the money we borrowed.To help this country and five years after we do leave you wont be able to even tell that we did anything.
Report Post »G.E.R
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:28amTurn him over to the Afghans
Report Post »justangry
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:34amScrew that. What he did was wrong, but war does bad things to some people’s minds. This wouldn’t be taken into consideration if we turned him over.
Report Post »G.E.R
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:58amAre you trying to imply this soldier is the real casualty of this incident
Report Post »scuba13
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:07amGER I’m implying that you are a complete idiot.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:28amI’m saying he should be screened for PTSD, treated, then punished with that in consideration. Not just handed over to raging angry people who would behead him in a heartbeat because they’re mad at our government. I’m also saying that, unless you’ve been a war yourself, stfu because you don‘t know what you’re talking about.
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Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:28amGER. You are a casualty of the Liberal education system.
Report Post »G.E.R
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:34amLucky for me I don’t care and what you think and feel is the furthest thing in my mind
Report Post »G.E.R
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:39am@ Justangry
9 children and 3 women are dead. I‘m pretty sure they’ll be angry at this person. The fact it’s a U.S. soldier is just gravy.
And for your own personal edification I served from 77-89
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:10pmG.E.R – Might we ask how much time have you spent in combat? You are dam quick to judge but don’t have enough common sense like most liberals to make good judgement calls. They‘re all kinds of casualties in war and you’re to liberal minded to understand so no reason to explain it to you. I’m sure it would be far more than your spoon- fed liberal mind could handle.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:07pmI am not condoning the actions of this soldier and salute your service. It’s just not the same to serve during peace time. PTSD is real and messes with peoples’ minds and makes some do terrible things. He must be punished for his actions, but he should have a PTSD screening to determine how. The Afgani people wouldn’t do that.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:21pmG.E.R.
People who commit crimes can have been victims of crimes in the time preceding their criminal offense.
So yes this soldier is a crime victim as well as a crime perpetrator.
Have you walked in his shoes? Have you been deployed? Have you faced the duration &m intensity of stress he endured? If you were deployed, were you a REMF?
Teddy Roosevelt wrote about your kind a 100 years go. The sickness is known to all.
Report Post »G.E.R
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:06pmFrom 1979-1989 I served in South America.and it wasn’t in the REAR.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 5:57pmGroup Therapy was invented by U.S. Army psychiatrists during WWII. There where so many mental casualties from shell shock & other things that there were not enough psychiatrists to go around.
People also talk about days in combat or on the line.
Until i find otherwise, I will assume that the shooter was a victim as well as a victimizer. It doesn’t mean that capital punishment is not in order. I am pretty sure it is. I am pretty sure but not absolutely sure that the Commander in Chief will take full credit whether this man is given life in prison or capital punishment.
BTW there was a lot of intense combat in South America in the 80s that lasted weeks & weeks & months & months. NOT!
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 6:03pm25-year-old Abdul Saboor, who shot the 2 advisers, is still at large.
Will he be tried & executed for cold blooded murder? Is any Afghan calling for it?
It has been2 weeks and where ism justice. No justice & more strain is all.
Next time it will be different.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 6:29pmInterior Ministry Asks for Restraint as Kandahar Shooting Investigated
http://tolonews.com/en/afghanistan/5600-interior-ministry-asks-for-restraint-as-kandahar-shooting-investigated
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 6:35pmTolo TV (Persian: طلوع – “Sunrise”) is a commercial television station operating in Afghanistan. Launched in October 2004 by MOBY Group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolo_TV
Just a little digging to see where I was getting my news from.
Report Post »G.E.R
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 7:05pmYou need to brush up on your history before commenting. There was a lot going on in South America during the 80′s.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:20pmI know about Grenada, man. Trust me I didn’t intend to insult you, brother. Vets are my peeps. Even the ones who go batcrap crazy.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:16amOver extended and fatigued and many of you want to send our boys into another muslim country. There‘s issues that buying a yellow ribbon bumber sticker won’t fix.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:19amThey can‘t even tell themselves they’re fighting for freedom, or they’re protecting the Constitution anymore. Nope, as we heard this week they aren’t even under US authority, but rather the international community. Thanks neocons.
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Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:21am“JUST”
“They can‘t even tell themselves they’re fighting for freedom, or they’re protecting the Constitution anymore.”
Our Military represents freedom wherever they are and whatever they are doing. You my good man, are not giving our Military enough credit here with this statement. One, two or three bad apples won’t make me change my mind that my Service is any less than honorable, and that our Military is any less honorable for having performed the duties we were called to perform by our nation and CIC… whoever that may be.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:22amI think we can all agree that our current government does not respect our freedoms and the constitution. So if obama send troops somewhere halfway around the world – can we expect our government to be doing it in the name of freedom?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:13pmOK poor choice of words. Everyone in the services signs up to protect freedom and they’re honorable. Our politicians just aren’t keeping up their end of the bargain. While our boys fight for freedom the dirtbag lawyer politicians are selling out what they signed up for.
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Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:30pmYes JUST, that I can agree on that comment. That‘s why I get so PO’d at the left AND Ron Paul’s support element (which I also consider the left on topics such as these). We can attach our anger to the politicians. We should never, ever, even come close to attaching that anger to the Military who are just carrying out orders and doing their damnest every day for our country. Ron Paul continues to walk a fine line between with ideology and being damn near traitorous in his word and deeds.
Report Post »Deepdiver58
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:13amKarzai is a lier, a thief, a cheat, a drug dealer, a misogynist, and a politician, but he is no leader. We should be on our way out of that hole and use scorched-earth as a methodand policy for leaving.
Afghanistan is still in the 13th century.
It was just a matter of time before some US service member took matters into their own hands. I am not surprised.
I spent 4.5 years in that dump. I know what I am talking about.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:16amDeepdiver58 ***Karzai is a lier, a thief, a cheat, a drug dealer, a misogynist, and a politician…***
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Jezcruzen
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:31amHe should have killed more! I’m just sorry this soldier will now be made an example of in some attempt to salve the feelings of murderous barbarians who worship a Satanic “religion”.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:05ameven 13th c people have the right to live and not be murdered by american invaders.i stand with them.like viet nam you’re fighting the people of the country.you’re manipulted gulls.-spoon fed fantasies of genocide by the media to get you to join the military after 9-11. once there-they told you -you love these people so much you’re going to bring them freedom,schools, hospitals etc. that’s when you realized you were manipulated by the neo-cons in government and in the war mongering media.They fooled you as they had no intentions of carrying out the fantasies their media fed you.Gulls!That’s when you lash out with ptsd-angry you can’t commit genocide.
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Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:20am“…you’re manipulted gulls.-spoon fed fantasies of genocide by the media to get you to join the military after 9-11. once there-they told you -you love these people so much you’re going to bring them freedom,schools, hospitals etc. that’s when you realized you were manipulated by the neo-cons in government and in the war mongering media.”
And now the “occupy whatever %’r” has had her say on the matter. Thank you Madea Benjamin.
Report Post »Charles
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:33pmThe only reason for our warriors to go into a country like that one is to kill, destroy and subdue, then leave. Putting them there as political pawns of some kind having to sit in a compound waiting for the savages around them to start attacking them for some “religious” reason is ludicrous and a recipe for disaster. When those 13th century throwbacks started killing our warriors over burning some books they used to pass messages in prison our leaders apologized. . Really? Our warriors should have wiped a thousand of them off the face of the earth for each soldier killed. The only thing these cave dwellers understand is overwhelming deadly force. Now our imbecile flaccid leaders are tripping all over themselves apologizing again. A scenario where the warriors overpower their impotent leaders and take matters into their own hands is likely to come. This was not it. Yet.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:07amAnd here comes the Obama’s apology train……
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