Nazis No More: Pop Singing Twins Now Claim They’re Liberals
- Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:07pm by
Billy Hallowell
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Remember Lamb and Lynx Gaede? The now 19-year-old twins were part of an infamous, Nazi-themed band called Prussian Blue a few years back. Now, the young girls who sparked international outrage with their White Nationalist tunes have had a change of heart. Rather than subscribing to Naziism, they now claim that they are liberals. The Daily has more:
“I’m not a white nationalist anymore,” Lamb told The Daily in an exclusive interview, the twins’ first in five years. “My sister and I are pretty liberal now.”
“Personally, I love diversity,” Lynx seconded. “I’m stoked that we have so many different cultures. I think it’s amazing and it makes me proud of humanity every day that we have so many different places and people.”
Not that long ago — back in 2006 — the girls captured international headlines with songs like “Hate for Hate: Lamb Near the Lane” (co-written by Lamb and David Lane, a man serving 190 years in prison for his role in the death of a Jewish talk show host). The girls formed the group at the recommendation of William Pierce, a White Nationalist leader.
Below, watch the video for their controversial song, “I’ll Bleed for You:”
And here’s their video for “Victory Day:”
Prussian Blue: Victory Day
Get More: Prussian Blue: Victory Day
While Prussian Blue never had any hits on the pop charts, the group was seemingly everywhere and was dubbed by some news outlets as “the new face of hate.” The girls’ story even sparked a musical called White Noise, which was backed by Whoopi Goldberg. Sources say it may be turned into a Broadway production.
So what changed?
The girls attribute their change in attitude and perspective to increased knowledge and maturity. The Daily adds:
“My sister and I were home-schooled,” Lynx pointed out. “We were these country bumpkins. We spent most of our days up on the hill playing with our goats.”
Lamb agreed. “I was just spouting a lot of knowledge that I had no idea what I was saying,” she said.
The twins’ mother, April Gaede, who has been a prominent member of racist fringe groups like the National Alliance and the National Vanguard, brought up her daughters with the ethos of white nationalism — a mix of racial pride, anti-immigrant hostility, Holocaust denial and resistance to the encroachment of “muds,” i.e., Jews and nonwhites.
While the girls are glad to be done with their Nazi ways, they recognize that there are some dangerous people in the White Nationalist movement who may not be happy with their conversion. So, they have laid low over the past five years, turning down numerous requests for interviews and have attempted to live normal lives.
Stress from being in the spotlight, though, may have left both young girls with some serious medical conditions. Lynx was diagnosed with cancer a few years ago and doctors were forced to remove a large tumor from her shoulder. Later, she developed cystic vomiting syndrome (CVS). Lamb struggles from scoliosis, chronic back pain, lack of appetite and emotional stress. Both girls have turn to marijuana, which they claim has helped them immensely:
Pot has also helped the twins rekindle the creative impulses they once channeled into their music. They’ve both taken up painting — astrological themes, mostly — and Lynx restores furniture. They hope to enroll in college, and intend to dedicate themselves to making medical marijuana legal in all 50 states.
The girls’ story is surely a bizarre one, with their White Nationalist mother pushing their former career along. While they still have a good relationship with her, their newfound liberal ways apparently run contradictory to her continued obsession with the Aryan race. On BuzzFeed, Matt Stopera writes that the girls’ ideological conversion is “an upgrade.” Do you agree?
(h/t BuzzFeed)
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Comments (245)
compatriotshonor
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:33pmNazis? liberals? I say what is the difference here, because these days, there, it seems to be one and the same!
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:41pmJust change the name. Progressives = Liberals. Lies = mis-speaks. Marxism = Social justice. Raise taxes = Revenue enhancements. Printing monies = Digitizing the debt = Quantitative easing. And so on, and so on…
Report Post »cripplecreek
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:48pmSounds to me like nothing has changed.
Report Post »Rightsofman
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:49pmWhoever they are they’re too young to be anything but stupid. They couldn’t even describe a Nazi and who cares anyhow?
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:52pmI‘m certainly glad I wasn’t born with “that” genetic defect.
Sometimes I wonder if one‘s ideology really isn’t genetic? I mean, my life could have played out 1 million different ways and in each one, I still find myself having the same outlook on life.
I’m trying to pinpoint things that could have happened differently in my life, for which I would have swung the other way, but I just don’t see it.
I think my vivid recollection of the mid to late 1970′s is what cemented my ideology at a young age, if it is, in fact, environmental. Fortunately, I figured it out before I finished 6th grade, and I didn‘t have to be one of those people that didn’t see what was going on until after college, etc – a blessing and a curse.
Report Post »Miguelito
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:00pmAnd we care about what these two young people think, why?
Report Post »0dysseus
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:01pmActually Nazism was and is recognized as right wing political activism, not liberalism. We need to guard against using the word “liberal” as a catch all for everything we dislike.
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:04pmAmazing how they get that electric guitar to sound like an acoustic.
Report Post »BrotherWill
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:09pmStop stealing my comments before I post them. ;D lol
Report Post »LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:10pmThe headline is misleading … AGAIN .. The Girls didn’t say they were Liberals, They said
“My sister and I are pretty liberal now.”
“Personally, I love diversity,” Lynx seconded. “I’m stoked that we have so many different cultures. I think it’s amazing and it makes me proud of humanity every day that we have so many different places and people.”
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It’s a play on words, and you have to look at it in it’s context
heck .. we are are all “Liberal ” when we compare ourselves to Muslim countries
Report Post »But we are not all ““ Liberals”” in a Political context
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:12pmThe move from racist to inventing classes to pit against each other, while certainly a step up, is still miles away from equal rights for all citizens. (And no, there is no such thing as a “citizen of the world”).
Report Post »Browncoat359
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:16pmAgreed,compatriotshonor. Liberalism was born from such things as National Socialism. When the girls have embraced Conservative principles then I’ll be more inclined to believe their “conversion”.
Report Post »This tale will be used as an attack on those who choose to home-school their children.
fliteking
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:32pmThey should feel right at home and their career should continue without a hitch.
The Nationalist Progressives have a histroy don’t youo know…
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Brizz
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:33pmMy thoughts exactly!
Report Post »Goodgriefgeezlouise
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:35pmHippy kids from Hippy parents..Nothing has chaged much from the sixties crowd to now..No doubt these kids will grow up with their warped view of the world and become just as outspoken and misguided as their liberal friends today…Parents have a great affect on their children..Just another example of the cultlike behavior that comes from a lifetime of endoctrination…We need to get this country back on track..jmo
Report Post »Ken
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:35pm@Compatriotshonor: I totally agree with you on that point!!!
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:36pmThere is no difference between liberals progressives and nazis, they all follow the same ideology.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:38pmIs that a different name or a different stance? I thought they were the same.
Report Post »Drives Like Jehu
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:42pmJust because the french parliament’s seating arrangement was and is used by the humanists of the world to classify nazis as right wing does NOT make it so. Conservatives (right wing) are rugged INDIVIDUALISTS, not fascists. The entire french parliament was and is liberal, so its “right wing” is just the right hand door at the end of the leftwing hallway.
Report Post »ConstitutionalPatriot
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:48pmNazi = Fascist which is an offshoot of socialism and Liberal = progressive which is an offshoot of socialism and of course socialism is what Karl Marx and Fredrick Engels wrote that socialism is the ‘only’ way to lead capitalist’s to communism. So to answer the question; what’s the difference… Not much!
I find it interesting that the ‘twins’ blame their sheltered life for their fascism… will they blame their sheltered life for their marijuana belief’s later on when they find that to be non-productive as well?
Report Post »BSdetector
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:53pm@ 0dysseus
Report Post »You are confusing the Eruo and American Right.
In America, Socialism is NOT right wing. The National Socialist Party(AKA Nazi Party) was rightwing by EUROPEAN standards alone.
Of course the commies are universally recognized as the true Left.
Marci
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:55pmThey don’t even know what liberal is—any more than they understood what their parents beat into their heads with that ridiculous group Prussian Blue they had. They have now instead fallen victim to criticizing anyone who is home schooled and lives in the country. These poor kids have no other frame of reference really, and maybe, just maybe as they grow older, they will land more middle of the road.
Report Post »gravedanger
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:57pmActually nazi means national socialist party so it is not true that it is right wing. It means gvmt run.
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 3:01pmIt appears that these girls are attempting to think outside of the toxic box they were raised in. It’s a start! Please Jesus, take them by the hand and lead them into Your Truth!
Report Post »BoiseBaked
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 3:35pmFunny, you hear an acoustic guitar in the video sound track yet one of them is playing an unplugged electric guitar in the video. Also, it seems they have some work to do on their vocals…. pitchy… Catchy tune though…
Report Post »chazman
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 3:37pmThese little brats need to be horse whipped …
Report Post »SLOWBIDEN
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 3:47pmActually in Mein Kompf (unsure spelling) Hitler said the only difference between socialism and nazism was race. So know your facts before you try to pipe up and sound intelligent.
Report Post »sbenton
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 4:01pmMy thoughts exactly. Hitler’s first initiatives were health care and anti-smoking propaganda. Hitler hated God, so do liberals.
Report Post »chfields62
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 4:19pmKarma’s a bit%^
Report Post »HippoNips
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 4:24pmNazism is NOT right wing as compared in the US politica spectrum
Nazism is right of other far left idealogies, right of Communsim., but far left of the US poltical spectrum…then and now.
The liberals in America are the closest to Nazism , communism, and other forms of socialistic systems
Report Post »FlamingFartSyndrome
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 5:01pmNazism and liberalism is like the exact opposite of one another, one believes in rights for everyone, the other rights for whites lol.
But who cares these girls are HOT!!
Report Post »MontanaRob
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 5:16pm0dysseus Posted:
Report Post »Actually Nazism was and is recognized as right wing political activism, not liberalism. We need to guard against using the word “liberal” as a catch all for everything we dislike.
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Sorry TROLL! Nobody here stupid enough to by your “ideas”, look on Hackington Post!
Nazism was National SOCIALISM and totalitarian, thus extreme LEFT. The ties to the right are nothing more than liberal revisionism, period!
vastrightwinger
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 5:50pmLiberal progressive=The New Nazi
Report Post »NotFooled
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 7:29pmI felt Odysseus brain melting from stupidity as I was reading his post. Lol Pick up a book! What can we expect from our Liberalized school system?
Report Post »Cause4Liberty
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 7:41pmWho Gives A Flying phhuccck
Report Post »GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 7:57pmThey seem so incorrigible, let’s brainwash them to support the tea party movement.
@Montanarob I suppose now ur going to deny Hitler was a great leader? U really got it bad for a jew don’t U. The red cross est the dead to be about 150K, how can u get 6million from that, do u even know the population of Germany in the mid 30′s ?
Speaking of brainwashing, who remembers Steve Austin?
Report Post »$6million man: energy comes from nowhere. Underground temps @ GroundZero exceeded 4700 deg F, where did thermal energy come from?
WAKE UP TO WHAT REALLY HAPPENED!!!
mossbrain
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 8:20pmI agree completely, also Jesus Christ and Charles Manson are the same spiritual being, they both bring the same message to mankind. One is the mirror image of the other.
Report Post »GadsdenGurl
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 8:55pmSO true… Nazis are the same as liberals, progressives, socialists and one step away from communists. No news here.
Report Post »N37BU6
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 10:13pmCalling average, modern-day Liberals Nazis is about as stupid as calling Conservatives Nazis… you hate it when the idiots like Olbermann, Schultz, and SEIU do it. Don’t stoop to their level. And don`t trivialize what happened to all those Jewish families just to make your lame little political jab.
Seriously, it’s weak.
Report Post »newrepublic7
Posted on July 19, 2011 at 12:37amA tyrantical socialist is a tyrantical socialist one in the same.
Report Post »Uranium Wedge
Posted on July 19, 2011 at 12:47amThats about a stones throw away… Or less
Report Post »ZOMBIE JESUS LOVES ME
Posted on July 19, 2011 at 10:22amTrue Saying: Not all conservatives are racists … but all racists are conservatives.
Report Post »Observer
Posted on July 19, 2011 at 1:58pm“Actually Nazism was and is recognized as right wing political activism, not liberalism. We need to guard against using the word “liberal” as a catch all for everything we dislike.” by Odysseus … sounds great but you are off base a bit. These are European girls. Lived in socialism all of their lives. Socialism is divided in three ways. National socialism, the european right, and communism the european left. In America, socialism is progressive and liberal in nature. No one in the right wing or conservative movement in the United States of America is calling for socialism in any form as a good solution for any part of their lives. They are for a Capitalistic economy based on the freedoms that our constitution provides. When they passed the liberal internal revenue service the people back then didn’t like the idea. So it was changed to the progressive internal revenue tax. Remember the reason why they changed the name. It’s all in the delivery of an Idea. How to sell the concept? ….. the program?….. the reasoning? …… Your concept that people are ignorant because of their beliefs, their life styles, the way they are raised are true. When you are ruled from the top down and cannot expand your knowledge into other economic ventures how do you learn about Capitalistic values? It’s more then bartering for something of value you may want in life. It’s you working hard for more in life then the next guy who could be, by all accounts, just as satisfied as you for a
Report Post »Observer
Posted on July 19, 2011 at 2:05pma lot less. Sorry 1500 characters …….. must remember …… must remember ………… I saw John fall while getting out of the car! Who got out of car? John or I? ………. must remember ………. 1500 ………… must remember …………
Report Post »408 CheyTac
Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:12pmHope they are better at being ******** than they are at singing… that video made my ears bleed it was so bad.
Report Post »obamanation
Posted on July 19, 2011 at 3:16pmFrom one form of Socialism to another…. BFD.
Report Post »ILUVJESUS
Posted on July 19, 2011 at 4:06pmSame thing! Still idiots!
Report Post »chazman
Posted on July 19, 2011 at 8:45pmSo, these little twerps went from NAZI to liberal? Is that a step up or down for them? Kinda like no longer a commie, but now a socialist? How about no longer smart, but rather stupid.
Report Post »vandyke
Posted on July 20, 2011 at 7:20pm>>> Odysseus:
What is it about Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartie, which in English translates to “National SOCIALIST German WORKER’S Party” that is right wing?
Report Post »amateurvisionary
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 6:18amcompatriotshonor – Nazis? liberals? I say what is the difference here, because these days, there, it seems to be one and the same!
Browncoat359 – Agreed,compatriotshonor. Liberalism was born from such things as National Socialism.
Wow…these are two incredibly ignorant comments. Liberalism was born from Nazism? Come now even you types should know that liberalism far pre-dates National Socialism. And Nazi=Liberal? Really? I’m guessing you were never taught anything about the Left-Right Spectrum, were you there, Rousseau?
I hope you guys and gals all have a great weekend.
av
Report Post »amateurvisionary
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 6:21amBut, sadly, neither of those posts would even make the Top 100 of inanely ignorant comments on this site. Not even close, actually. So…yeah…you’ve got that going for ya.
av
Report Post »LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:32pmfirst off, very limited musical talent, nothing to praise on that account. The vocals are pretty bad, the guitat playing is low level. Second, its clear their commie upbringing has them brainwashed. Kind of sad actually.
Report Post »right-wing-waco
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:48pmI agree on all you said, LIBSALWAYSLIE, but at least their pretty good looking!
Report Post »B_rad
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:58pmYeah, and that was before they were stoned all the time. I’m guessing their next hit will look something like this:
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RightPolitically
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:31pmLet them tour any “-hood” in the good old USA, hang out for awhile alone at night and then let’s see how they feel afterwards? My thought: They will have had THEIR FULL of diversity!
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:44pmWhat, do you want to turn them back into Nazis:)?
Report Post »cosette
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 3:35pmFrom Nazi to Liberal. Seems like a logical step. Up or down? Makes no difference!
Report Post »thegreatcarnac
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:30pmIf they want to hit it big in show business they have learned they have to spout the party line…which is ‘diversity’ and ‘liberallism’. Maybe…just maybe…they may be faking it and will send their money back to the Nationalists.
Report Post »What is truth
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:26pmNow that there liberals they can learn a new level of hate.
Report Post »hersey10
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:27pmA simple name change . Same agenda .
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:04pmwhere do they live? why doesn’t the article say where they are from?
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:26pmNever heard of them before…..upgrade? Somewhat….but not near enough difference….yet. But the good news is they’ve broken from their mom and maybe now will continue “moving to the right” and finally get the revelation of “truth”, see the evils of liberalism as well. Pray for them.
Report Post »coryf076
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:24pmDemocrats and Liberals have / had former Klansmen amongst their ranks….why not add national socialists?
Report Post »jessieH
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:24pmThey are liberal, now. So, nothing has changed.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:24pmThere is very, very little difference between liberalism and Nazism, they are identical twins.
Report Post »y_we_fight_u
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:22pmNo different than Robert (KKK) Byrd…All Nazis head towards the dem party of rats
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:28pmThese girls have their heads filled with things a dog would not eat and a cat would want to cover up.
Report Post »hightide
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:22pmNever heard of them. Sounds like child abuse and then rebellion. They are still young enough to find the truth.
Report Post »NotFooled
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:22pmLiberalism is the new Nazi/Communist movement. Just as Green is the new Red. Liberals talk of population control and support the Pro-Death movement. They will defend a murderer heading to the death chamber but stay silent and smile as innocent babies get murdered everyday.
Report Post »y_we_fight_u
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:21pmNo different then Byrd…All Nazi’s flock towards liberals
Report Post »cntrlfrk
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:21pmSounds like they have expanded their spectrum of hate.
Why just be ‘White Nationalists’ when you can be a liberal and hate Christians, Patriots, the wealthy, the poor, yourself ……
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Report Post »BetsyRoss1513
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:20pmGirls, the nazis ARE the liberals. You did a bad thing.
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:20pmNot familiar with these two at all! Am I to believe they are Americans? Just what we need more racist liberals to call us Conservatives “racists” ha ha ha and the “beat goes on…”
Report Post »Uncurable wound
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:20pmOh my God,WHO CARES!!!
Report Post »Tickdog
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:19pmbrainwashed…
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:19pmTelling the truth, they had no idea what they’re were singing about, I believe their parents allowed them to be used in such a way for the potential of making money….
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:17pmMaybe they can keep moving right and become conservatives.
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:27pmThey are so beautiful and sexy that I know they are Conservatives.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 4:21pmYeah, but they really can’t sing, at least in those two awful clips.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:16pmAnd now….
Wait for it…
They can Vote.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:06pmvote where? are they even americans?
Report Post »J.C. McGlynn
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:15pmNo. Not an upgrade. Not much of a difference.
Report Post »Obama_Sham
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:15pmOne day, they will both run for elected office…
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:06pmare they from america? if so, where?
Report Post »AIDANMAN
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:13pmsame thing….
i’m rich , smarter than the rest of you. do as i say not as i do.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:12pmHmm, I’m not surprised. Quite a few anti-Semites in the democrat party…
I’ll wait and see… as to the content of character…
Report Post »HKS
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 1:17pmCharacter is a product over time, not the product of a statement.
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