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‘Neuter That Regime’: Sen. Graham Stuns Audience With Iran Attack Scenario

The Canadian Press:

A U.S. lawmaker sent ripples through an international audience Saturday saying his country should be prepared to launch a military attack on Iran that would “neuter” the hard line regime.

But Defence Minister Peter MacKay, who was in attendance, said a military attack on Iran would have negative fallout, and that international sanctions are preferable.

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said Saturday his party would support military action against Iran that would destroy its ability to fight back while allowing its people to rise up.

Graham surprised attendees at the Halifax International Security Forum with his hawkish rhetoric, saying an attack could cripple Iran’s nuclear program as well as its armed forces.

The Jerusalem Post:

A leading US senator on defense issues said Saturday any military strike on Iran to stop its nuclear program must also strive to take out Iran’s military capability.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who sits on the Armed Services Committee and the Homeland Security Committee, said the US shouldn‘t just consider a surgical strike on Iran’s nuclear infrastructure.

“My view of military force would be not to just neutralize their nuclear program, which are probably dispersed and hardened, but to sink their navy, destroy their air force and deliver a decisive blow to the Revolutionary Guard.

“In other words, neuter that regime,” added Graham, who spoke at the Halifax International Security Forum.

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  • mossbrain
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 2:11am

    I realy don’t know how an American hero like Glenn Beck puts up with planet of the apes types like most of the people posting here (and also Graham). Yeah, I’m sure you people want less governmen except when it comes to killing off the rest of the world, then it’s spend, spend, spend. Let Israel take care of Iran, they are perfectly capable. Look at what they’ve done to their nuclar plants with computer viruses.

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    • vennoye
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 2:33am

      If Iran keeps on threating to wipe Israel off the map, I don’t think we will have to do anything to Iran. I have heard that when our cadets train on war strategy–they look at everybody‘s battles except Israel’s. Israel’s battles and the outcomes are just too unbelievable to study.
      And as for Lindsey I can’t remember when I have EVER agreeded with him……..normally his position is wrong and his timing just makes you shake you hear and roll your eyes!

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    • Doc_Slammin
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 3:49am

      Did someone in the interview say we wouldn’t unleash Israel on Iran while we sit to the east and west in Iraq and Afghanistan? Leave it to a mossbrain to assume.

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  • KnowingTheFuture
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 2:10am

    You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, nation will rise against nation and kingdom agaist kingdom, but the end is still to come…

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  • shane2813
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 2:07am

    Hey wait a second Lindsey……I thought our enemy was the American People??? I’m confused??? PS find another job Lindsey your services are no longer needed. MARXIST=DEMOCRATS=TERRORIST All the same.

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    • jacobstroubles
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:25am

      The American people should not wait or prolong the next step. All those who were not up for re election this last week, we need to start issuing recalls. They ALL need to clearly understand that we are not going back to sleep, and that they are not going to go back to their little games.
      If we leave any of them in, they will poison the water. That is a fact. They’ll just wait untill they detect Americans, nodding off, during the warm fuzzy elavator music time, between floors.

      If you think they were not watching this, way at the beging of the formation of the Tea Party formation, you had better think again…they were definitely watching and listinening from day one.
      They were banking on past performance of Americans to tire out or run out of steam. Only this time they got a little suprise.

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  • New-American-Saviors
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 2:06am

    If we do it properly, decisively & Quickly that would probably send a good signal that we aren’t the sniveling, procrastinators we appear to be under His Majesty’s Apologetic regime. Of couse that would be the Old-School American way ( WIN ). Just don’t tell Obama about it.
    Yes Let’s Do something right for the History Books. Then we can at least bluff our way to Peace.

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  • Scothantlas
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 2:02am

    Iran is already at war with us. They are just using the taliban and bin ladin’s bunch as proxies. We need to seriously follow Israel’s example. Remember bush’s shock and awe. Which was more like bored and drooling. We need to unleash the full wrath of our armed forces. Unleash an air attack that makes pearl harbor look like childs play. One that with that first blow renders Iran incapable of responding. We have the ability. we need to use it.

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  • welovetheUSA
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:52am

    Yes………..A true American.

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  • motorman
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:48am

    What a masterful gambit by the republicans. Place a sitting US Senator in a foriegn hypothetical discussion forum and float a overthrow scenario while Obama is out of country. Throw in another US Senator to float the greater sanctions options and you have a faux diplomatic shot across the bow of the Iranian regime. President will not be back in country for days giving the salvo plenty of time to be analyzed by the Imans. Suddenly hardened nuke sites seem irrelevant…regime change raised the ante to an all or nothing play. All without an actual shot being fired. Big stick diplomacy at its best.

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  • Rob_M
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:44am

    Obama only has the courage to stand up to people who like america.

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  • Rowgue
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:20am

    Why are people such morons. He’s not calling for this action. Questions were posed to him and he answered them. He didn’t say we SHOULD do this. He said we should be PREPARED to do it. He also explained that IF YOU DO DO IT then you can’t half ass it and drop a couple of bombs on suspected nuclear installations; you have to be prepared to do what it takes to get the job done.

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  • AzDebi
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:19am

    We can only hope that Lindsey Graham is with the next wave of Rhinos we throw out! He’s too tied at the hip to “McShame” to help restore our Republic…be careful patriots, he‘s part of the good ol’ boy network that got us into this mess to begin with…

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  • Independantthinker
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:18am

    I know noone likes the talk of fighting someone else over there, but this would be a fight to make the hole region safer. Unlike Afganastan and Pakistan, we are fighting small groups and their governments are not supporting us. Seems to me that the threat of nuclear weapons is more a threat to us and the rest of the world than a few terroist groups but then again we need to keep them at bay because if Iran gets their nuclear weapons they might give them to the terroist. And then everyone is at risk. So I agree with Senator Graham.

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  • Jsh1284
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:15am

    Send me in! Give me a Barrett M82 .. a .308 FAL ..lots of ammo .. some provisions .. a little close air support (if needed) .. maybe a suitcase nuke or two.. Oh, and one of those prototype transparent uniforms. If I win, we are victorious. If I get captured, I will just tell them I’m a Tea Party member. They’ll just think I “Went Rogue” Where’s the risk there?

    O-Man .. call me!

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  • NeoFan
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:14am

    Oh yeah lets spend another 5 trillion dollars on a fight with a country full of suicidal morons. No thanks.
    Lindsey Graham is suddenly a hawk? Wow do you think he got word of the elections and is now changing his stripes? This guy is a total phony. He would still be supporting Obama if the republicans had lost.

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  • N37BU6
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:13am

    It’s pretty sad when Lindsey Graham has bigger cojones than the president… strange times we’re living in.

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    • Vince Vega
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 4:11am

      As I’ve mentioned in previous posts, there’s something odd afoot at the Circle K.

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  • Patriot Z
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:13am

    very good lindsey. finally someone who at least wants to win a fight instead of apologize. i bet obama is bending over now preparing to apologise

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    • CatB
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 12:44pm

      Sorry but I don’t trust Lindsey any more than I trust Obama to mean what he says. Lindsey is up to something .. I don’t know what .. but it will become clear .. POTUS? — LOL >>>after the whimpy McCain campaign NO WAY! NO MORE RINO’s and LINDSEY IS A BIG ONE!

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  • Vunks
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:13am

    Ahh yes because the other two wars are working so well.. wait what’s that they are going very very badly.

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  • Exrepublisheep
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:13am

    Do we have so many soldiers that Graham thinks we should lighten the load by killing off more of them? Israel is more than tough enough to police its own backyard, were having trouble enough in our own. Bring them all home and lets defend our southern border against an enemy thats actively attacking Americans on our own soil.

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    • Rev. WC
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 4:30am

      Amen Brother!

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    • staythecourse
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 6:09am

      There is a reason that our National Guard is halfway around the world. We forget that it is not a regular army we talk about…it is our National Guard. It used to be that the governors of the state could/would call up the National Guard to provide defense and security in our own country. A number of years ago the POTUS took control of the National Guard and that leaves us defenseless at home. Thru NATO our National Guard aka military serving in Iraq and Afganistan, are in service to the United Nations. Do not doubt that in the case of an emergency should Obama feel the “need” to call up a national guard that he would not invite an occupying army of blue hats (aka UN army) into our country.

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  • CowboyExpat
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:12am

    STUPID MACKAY…. Your country is on the verge of being swallowed by Islamists and you still have your head up your ass. Your attitude is exactly why there is a problem in the first place. Where did it come from? Your nation was once the premier subjugator of races via forced colonization. And now you have come to this? I can’t scream it loud enough….

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  • firstamend
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:10am

    Bay of Pigs Invasion ring a bell anywhere?

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    • jshalasz
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:51am

      The Bay of Pigs operation was run by a Cuban force trained by the CIA, not a battle hardened professional military.

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  • txpiper
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:04am

    Interesting. I would expect a few nervous break-downs on the Sunday talk shows.

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  • RealityCheck
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:02am

    Scary stuff right there. Better do it with gloves off or were all in allot of trouble.

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    • Vince Vega
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 4:13am

      Yup…I’m not sure that nation-building is an option here.

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    • firstHat
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 7:02am

      I’m with you guys. My spidey senses go up immediately when it is this man taking this stance. And then when I stop and think about the whole thing…Nope, Don’t think so…

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:02am

    i have a hard time disagreeing with him, but another war……………really? granted the threat is real, and somrthing needs to be talked about and discussed about irans nuclear program, but at this moment in time a war cry is really detrimental to the cause. one more RINO that needs to retire………………If and when the need does arise, the correct choice will be made

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    • Patriot Z
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:18am

      another war would suck but our problem isnt too many wars(bad choice of words i know but bear with me). its the lack of our govt to dicisivly win them. we keep making the same mistake of thinking our enemies should like us. it failed in vietnam it is failing now. Wars stink, but thats why when we choose to fight them we need to fight to destroy our enemy and make sure he cant come back. our weapons are a bazillion times more advanced yet this is the 10th yr we have wasted figting stone throwers. and the stone throwers are winning because we dont want to be rude.

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    • Rev. WC
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 3:42am

      Patriot Z: Exactly right..lets stop policing and trying to social engineer the world..

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    • suzg60
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 7:57am

      we would need to get in and GET OUT!! Or we will be AGAIN rebuilding another damn country. Although that would be the country to help, the majority of the people there hate the leadership. All the time we have spent in Iraq and they still need us to hold their hands. Helpless…………………Afghanistan, forget it, they don’t want us there and we should get the hell out!! I am tired of this country helping, rebuilding everyone else when our own country is in such disarray.

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    • CatB
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 12:08pm

      As long as we need no “boots on the ground” .. I’m in … using drones and strategic strikes should be able to take them out .. then let the Iranian people rise up –as they have proven before they will.

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  • lbsm
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:58am

    Awesome…LOL…he said neuter Iran!!!

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    • Vince Vega
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 4:07am

      For such a sober topic, your comment made me laugh! Now…on to Armageddon…

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    • CatB
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 12:03pm

      Lindsey has spent most of his time trying to NEUTER Conservative values … Nice to see his take on someone besides American Conservatives.

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  • lharns
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:57am

    It’s about time we started to get serious about Iran. Let the sabers start rattling!

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    • staythecourse
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 6:04am

      Iran has made friends with neighbors to the south. Things are not as simple as they appear. Our president has and continues to ignore the true defense of our country. He gives consessions to Russia while Russia arms our enemies. We are giving up access to the space station planning on using Russia to get there when we want to go (????) This is insanity. When will Congress wake up to the fact that Obama is setting us up for destruction. He has abandoned our defenses…. and he goes prancing around the world, while his wife dances…. and we are jobless. And the number of jobs he is talking about for the expenditure of money…. something is not right. I do not trust him and believe he is giving our country away.

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    • Dstarr55
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 7:02am

      Staythecourse – I know that is off topic but that is one of my pet peeves – we were the dominate force in space exploration yet now we take a back seat to Russia and will soon be begging for piggy back rides to the international space station. Our shuttle program is far superior to their rockets which still land the hard way. We were once the pioneers, blazing the trail and now we are the hitchhikers with our thumbs out.

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    • mamawalker
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 7:42am

      Staythecourse – You are so right! What we are doing to the space program and missile defense is unthinkable and we will ultimately pay a heavy price for our weakness!

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    • Promotefreedom
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:08am

      There is nothing strange about the communist policies of Obama, plus the FED printing money. The New World Order is upon us. Soon there will be no sovereign US. We will need no missile defense or entrepreneurs.

      The elite world leaders already decide which wars will be fought and who wins. They already decide which nations will be prosperous and which won’t. They have been for some time now been depleting the US of industry and good jobs. The pace has quickened lately because they see the RIGHT MOMENT is approaching SOON.

      Obama is meeting with his future “sub-rulers” over in Asia right now.

      Oh, and BTW people: The US has seen it’s last election where there is more than a single candidate to vote for.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:48am

      I agree.

      The Iranian Regime needs to be put on notice that their days are numbered.

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    • MontanaMade
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 4:29pm

      Stay-
      The countries we must look at are Iran and Pakistan. Take one out with “Shock and Awe” and the other will fall in line. We are funding Pakistan, and they turn around and fund the terrorists who are camped out on the boarders. Russia on the other hand asks for concessions from us and Obama politely gives them what ever they want- then Russia turns around and funds Iran (along with weapon grade plutonium). Yeah, this is an over-simplification & it’s a sticky situation- but if we don’t do something- we are sitting ducks. The POTUS has to grow a backbone and stand up for THIS country!!

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  • patriot4evah
    Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:56am

    I have to admit. I really like Lindsey when he is on our side. It does not happen too often though.

     
    • GBMBulletsSKNRD
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 2:00am

      I would make it a one week war. Destroy the guard, Sink their navy and ground their airforce as in shoot down anything that flies. Then let their people sift through the mess.

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    • Strictlybusiness
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 2:12am

      Thats What Lindsey is trying to do , CONVENCE people that he is on the conservatives agenda and talk Hawkish……… It’s toooo late Lindsey, your progresive ways MUST be exterminated in the next election.However I do agree with what he said in this case , But he doesn’t go far enough we need to turn IRAN into a glass factory ! ! ! !

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    • IVillageIdiot
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 2:21am

      Ode to Lindsey:

      When that I was and a little tiny boy,
      With hey, ho, the wind and the rain,
      A foolish thing was but a toy,
      For the rain it raineth every day.

      But when I came to man’s estate,
      With hey, ho, the wind and the rain,
      ‘Gainst knaves and thieves men shut the gate,
      For the rain it raineth every day.

      But when I came, alas! to wive,
      With hey, ho, the wind and the rain,
      By swaggering could I never thrive,
      For the rain it raineth every day.

      But when I came unto my beds,
      With hey, ho, the wind and the rain,
      With toss-pots still had drunken heads,
      For the rain it raineth every day.

      A great while ago the world begun,
      With hey, ho, the wind and the rain,
      But that’s all one, our play is done,
      And we’ll strive to please you every day.

      -W.S.

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    • DrammyCoke
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 2:33am

      It’s good when he reaches back across the isle to side with Republicans… typically his dumb arse is waaaaay on the other side.

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    • rebel
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 5:01am

      He sounded like a man there. too bad i really don’t trust a word he says.
      And can someone tell me when/why politicians started pointing with their thumbs? does that seem “pansy” to anyone else but me? Just point! You won’t hurt our feelings!

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    • Aeric98
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 5:05am

      I agree. I think he’s starting to see the writing on the wall.

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 5:26am

      It is hard to like someone that kicks you in the teeth one day and hugs you the hext. It is also hard to like someone you don’t trust. Having said that, he is right this time. Iran is on a collision course with us and the rest of the free world. Just think what Iran could do with one terrorist delivered untraceable nuclear bomb (either on one cities or high altitude EMP) or let alone many nukes. The destruction would be immeasureable.

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 6:00am

      Lindsey has the neuter thing correct but he has the wrong regime. Our priority right now should be to lop the ****** off the Obama regime. If we don‘t stop Obama we’ll soon be doing the goose step along side the revolutionary guard.

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    • GulfPeg
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 6:07am

      Graham is one of the ones that has to go in 2014. He can’t be trusted. He is a RINO, a Communist/Socialist!

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    • Rev. WC
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 6:09am

      I wish Grahamisty was as tuff on the borders!

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    • docvet
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 7:37am

      …allow its people to rise up… Yeah, that worked out real well in Iraq and Afganistan. Don‘t know how we were able to suceed there without the people’s support!! NOT.

      If and when we finish our current Mid-East operations, we need to bring our military home and build them up bigger and stronger than they are now because the only way we are going to effectively deal with their threat to the U.S. is to take on the entire Mid-East at one time. It will end up being as close to a third world war as possible. And we will never be big enough to do that alone (not as long as they still have oil).

      Furthermore, if Soros and the other one-worlders get their way, Islamic law will spread over much of the world. Kiss any form of freedom and happiness good-bye.

      Yeah, Graham, just keep flapping your lips.

       
    • aro5o75
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 7:38am

      It’s a ruse.
      Anyone can appear tough by proposing something that he knows isn’t going to happen.

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    • GodfatherofBlog
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 7:58am

      Lindsey Graham has to be a hawk, he is targeted by the Tea Party to be ousted~!!!

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    • Max jones
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 7:59am

      I’m not sure if Mr Graham is being forthcoming. He is a progressive and his real interest is getting Obama re-elected in 2012. A war with iran may accomplish this, handily. Americans always end up supporting the POTUS in wartime.. This political tactic has been used before: that’s what got FDR elected to a third term. I don’t trust him.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 8:01am

      How about we have some Criminal Trials for AIG,JPM and Goldmen Sachs ?

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 8:18am

      A Sissy talking tough. He is starting his Campaign for head RINO. What a joke of a man…

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    • HKS
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 8:22am

      Can’t figure this guy out, is he Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde????????

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    • oldoldtimer
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 8:33am

      Graham is just trying to sound tough. He wants to run for POTUS in 2012. Do not be fooled he is just another Dem in Repub clothing(RINO). About as progressive as any Dem.

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    • Chicago Ray
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 8:49am

      I’d make it a one nighter after announcing over their Allah loudspeakers a call to flee the big cities in 36 hours that are about to be nuked.

      Enough of this crud from that country that’s been tugging our western chain Since Mr Peanut. They’ve been waging war against us for 40 years, my entire life practically and they’ve had more chances any civilized nation deserves, especially an uncivilized one…

      don’t neuter em, destroy em so that can’t regenerate.

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    • tobywil2
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:09am

      Senator Graham (R, SC) believes that the “Tea Party Movement” is unsustainable. Perhaps, that is just wishful thinking on their part.

      The fact is that it is that either the “Tea Party Movement” or Senator Graham will go the way of the Dodo bird.

      RINOS cannot survive in a nation of citizens that understand that FREEDOM RESULTS IN PROSPERITY AND THAT TYRANNY IS THE ROOT OF POVERTY AND DESPAIR. Mr.Graham’s action proves that he understands his peril. RINOS like Senator Graham are more of a danger to the American Revolution than the admitted tyrants like Obama.

      We the people will not yield to the tyranny of King George III even under “new management.”
      http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • neverending
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:09am

      Me too – I just had to pick myself up off the floor in shock!!

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:14am

      Graham as POTUS. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!! no way.

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    • bobby535
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:28am

      Lindsy is a progressive, although I like the idea he mentions, his reasons are for sure different than my reasons.

      http://stores.ebay.com/Stickit-Decals

       
    • drbage
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:28am

      Gee, wonder how soon we will hear that he is against any sort of attack on the sovreign nation of Iran even though he used to be for it until he drank the koolaid. How long will it be before this established elite will become a Democrat saying: “I didn’t leave the Republicans, they left me.”? Wonder if Lott and McCain will join him, too?

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    • 2
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:32am

      Did He grow a pair or is He tired of being called a RINO?

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    • jimmythebullet
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 9:59am

      behindblueeyes-AMEN
      i very seldom post,for a variety of reasons,but i felt compelled to second your sentiment.if we don’t effect a “regime” change at home,we are on a fast track to BECOME one of those regimes.the elections were a decent start,but we have a long way to go before the entrenched political machines are dislodged.IMHO,pres.erkel is just a spokesman doing what he is told to do.does anyone else ever wonder who’s on the other end of that blackberry?i guess that’s a topic for another show.
      back to regime change-
      as a veteran,i am apalled,disgusted and pissed to the MAX at the position our combat troops have been put in.not since alexander the great has “the stan” been conquered or controlled in any manner.of course,alexander wasn‘t hamstrung by insane ROE’s.bush’s rules were bad enough,but erkel‘s ROE’s would cripple your local police dept.hell,i‘m surprised they’re allowed to carry loaded weapons
      our troops are not cops or diplomats.their job is to KILL the enemy.erkel and his handlers don’t have the balls to identify the enemy,let alone kill them.as one of my heroes and newly elected congressman Col.Allen West says-”until we stop looking at that part of the world through western colored glasses,we’ll never be able to implement a winning strategy.”he has seen the enemy and knows they only understand two things-strength and weakness.lopping off heads is strength,diplomacy is weakness.
      until we are willing to accept and address hard truths and respond accordingly,IMHO,talk of another “regime” change is just plain crazy.
      “praise the lord and pass the ammo”
      jimmy “the bullet”
      Psalm 144:1-15

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    • psst
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:01am

      I hope the good folks in SC neuter Grahmnesty when he comes up for re-election.
      He‘s just babbling BS now to assure cons he’s still their friend.
      Nov 2nd scared the crapola out of him.
      He’s looking to “his” future,
      His mentor Juan Valdez McCain tacked hard right (actually, defending the constitution should not be considered hard right, but just right)on the illegal amnesty which he pushed along w/ his protege Grahmnesty.
      Pols of all “tripe” will babble BS to fool the electorate.
      Juan McCain loved being lionized by the marxist MSM (sorry for the redundancy)
      Hell! The NY Times even endorsed him during the republican nomination.. then threw him under the bus after he won. Ol’ Juan really thought they loved him.I don‘t know for sure if he’s reallybeen reborn.
      For years Juan and Grahmnesty pushed for Amnesty for Illegals along w/ Kennedy, Clinton and even bOOsh.
      Grahmnesty was looking to replace his mentor as the love of the marxist MSM (sorry for the redundancy)
      I don’t trust anything he now says.He’s full of BS as always.

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    • realindependent
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:07am

      YEAH lets have another war!!! woohoo, and while your at it repubs why dont ya give more tax cuts and borrow the money from china. And you wonder why republican administrations always leave us in debt up too our eye balls. yeah good idea.

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    • Major Infidel
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:12am

      Thats a bigger fight than we can handle right now with our forces spread so thin. Plus you know Russia and China will step in to aid Iran.

      It would literally be WWIII. We missed our opportunity to “neuter” Iran. It far to late.

      They‘ll have nukes in a matter of months if they don’t already have one.

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    • silentwatcher
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:13am

      Much as I despise Iran and what they stand for, I MUST hesitate against nuking Iran. However, I DO believe they wouldn’t hesitate to do so against us. It has been VERY obvious that Iran has shown no regard to nuclear proliferation and has every intent on arming themselves with nuclear weapons during a period of history when the world has been trying to disarm themselves of such. Shoud OVERWHELMING evidence of nuclear weapons or their creation be evident, then their intent is obvious and a STRONG military strike, a multi-nation strike, should ensue.

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    • SLAPTHELEFT
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:19am

      Wow. Thanks linda. Bide your time. You’re next.

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    • EgoBrain
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:32am

      Amen, Graham.
      Can‘t believe I’m agreeing with this guy.

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    • TSUNAMI-22
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:57am

      Flimsy Graham is a fair weather fan. ,,,,and they called Meg Whitman a whore…..

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 11:49am

      Advocating launching attacks on countries that have not attacked us first is not “on our side”. That is the mark of every despotic nation in history. Pre-emptive strikes are not the domain of any honorable people.

      The fact is that our budget is out of control, we’re already saddled with more debt than any nation in history, and we can ill afford any more military adventurism, hell we can‘t even afford what we’re doing now. Bring our boys back home and put them in place defending our borders and our traditions here, as they should have been doing from the beginning. This lust for war is a very new Republican trait and one that we have to keep ourselves from adopting wholesale. We should always be a nation of entangling alliances with none, peaceful trade with all. That’s what the Founders envisioned at a time when nations routinely went to war almost “just for fun” and the world was a very dark and dangerous place, and it’s what I uphold as well.

      The Neocon injection into the Republican party is when the war mongering started. Neocons are warfare minded liberals folks. They couldn’t find a home in the Democratic party so they slithered into the Republican party. Reject these anti-American Trotskyites once and for all, and stop participating in their calls for blood. Please people, think about it rationally.

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    • Captain77
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 12:24pm

      Oh how this nation has fallen. On the left we have socialist who are willing to sacrifice every freedom and right for an illusion of security (Obama Care, Cap and Trade, bailouts and stimulus). Then on the right we have the same thing, only in different ways. (Patriot Act, TARP) Sacrificing our freedoms for supposed security, and spending not only our children’s future, but our own also. Now some of you here are of the illusion that going to war with Iran is a good thing? They are no threat to us, but you would have us send out children to kill their children when they are no threat to our safety, our security. As for Israel, Iran knows very well that should they launch one nuke at them, Israel can respond with hundred or even thousands of nukes. Israel is a greater threat to Iran, thanks to America, than Iran could ever be to Israel. Then some of you pathetic people think it would be a one week war!? Are your memories so short you can’t even remember where we are today? How long have we been in Iraq, Afghanistan? How many thousands of our sons and daughters have fallen in these foreign lands that should have fallen in a week? Most here claim to love the Constitution, our forefathers. I tell you their is no support in the Constitution for this and our forefathers would be just as sickened as I, if not more at what we are doing.

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    • mudvilles9
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 12:40pm

      Although I agree with the Idea it sounds bad on two fronts Lindsey:

      1 – Don’t make statements like that unless you are ready to go and do it.

      2 – If you agree with that let Israel make the first move then support them and their efforts as allies.

      Actually Lindsey, I’d prefer you “neuter” the Obama regime before you go throwing smack like that around. Start by helping America and it’s problems before we go and take on other wars. We have bigger fish to fry Lindsey.

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    • Lady Hawk
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 12:46pm

      I agree … When he’s on our side, he’s stands out in the crowd.

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    • jenny2384
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 12:51pm

      GBMBulletsSKNRD – Nicely put. I’m with you. A one week war. None of this years of pandering to a government that can’t get their act together…where we lose thousands of soldiers. A one week war.

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    • jds7171
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:07pm

      Graham is an idiot. There is no way we can afford to fight on 3 fronts. Maybe when we bring our troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan. Then letting them rest for about a few years. I fought in iraq, and there is no way I want to go to Iran. Whoever supports graham in this is an idiot.

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    • Beckofile
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:27pm

      I opened this article cause I thought he wanted to neuter the regime here in DC. I was suprised to see him offer up some of the old right side progressivisms of starting another war spending program. Fire Pelosi in 2010-Fire Graminmo in 2012

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    • watchmany2k
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:41pm

      It’s Friday, Lindsey Just had his Low-T shot,
      He’ll be his lean forward bend over self come monday.
      Move on, nothing to see here….

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    • AlaskaRick
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:46pm

      Every squirrel finds a nut in woods once in awhile.

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 1:55pm

      @jimmythebullet
      Your right about the elections only being a start. Obama isn’t going to stop just because he lost the house. He’s a true believer that “the ends justify the means”. Obama will continue his fundamental transformation of America by using his back door tricks to get around congress.

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    • ProgressivesLoveAmerica
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 2:29pm

      This really shouldn’t come as a surprise to anybody who follows foreign policy.

      The United States has been actively pursuing War with Iran for several years now, albeit through covert means. It’s well known among followers of US foreign policy that the CIA has been supporting terrorist dissident groups WITHIN Iran, most notably, one called Jundallah. Jundallah literally meaning Soldiers of Allah‎, though also known as People’s Resistance Movement of Iran (PRMI).

      In fact, the word on the Grapevine is that the Obama Administration has been planning some sort of military action against Iran for just right now. This is supported by the fact that the US & Israel gave Saudi Arabia & Egypt the greenlight for their first ever joint military excercises against Iran late last month.

      We have gas pipelines and oil to secure. We have surrounded Iran all sides. This makes total & complete sense. Nobody should be surprised.

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    • Jim S
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 2:44pm

      What you can do is very different from what you should do. All those international students at USC, MIT etc have gone home with knowledge and you cannot stop knowledge. The knowledge with enough money can create ANYTHING we have. As oil gets more and more expensive I suspect more and more countries will switch to the only GREEN 24/7 energy source. Most will be our friends, a few will be anti-American and may use nuke power as a ruse to create weapons. Pakistan has nukes and is hiding Osama. They throw us a few scrapes every once in a while and the cash pipeline keeps flowing. All the 9/11 bad boys were Saudi, Saudi pours $$$ to Osama. The entire US military, CIA, a trillion dollars spent and 2 countries invaded and we can’t locate a few hundred Satan spawn living in caves? Despite that, this ass wants to go to war for a week? Please name me a war that did not need ground troops? Please STOP. Do we want US troops in 3 countries ?..this has taken longer than WWII and still is not over. I have read my US Constitution and it says ”
      Congress shall have power to … declare War”. Please NO more police actions, no more congressional ok for “ military action”…declare war, in bright sunlight with the Constitutional requirements. No more Korea’s, NO more Vietnams, NO more Gulf War 1, Gulf War 2…declare WAR or shut the hell up. Yes we CAN blow up a lot of stuff in a week, no doubt, we have been blowing stuff up for 8 years and killed thousands and have lost thousands. Does anybody ever say WHY? Playing Wack-A-Mole with the excellent men and women of our military must STOP. Walk softly, carry a big stick.

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    • uneedmorekoolaid
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 3:54pm

      there goes a surprise attack, but BO would want to call and apologies for us getting ready to bomb them and ask dinigaude, their president to come stay at the white house while we rebuild his castle and country, apologizing the whole time.

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    • MontanaMade
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 4:21pm

      Holy Crap!! Did I just see that Graham just grew a pair??!! Didn’t think that was possible.

      Though in this case he’s dead on- we SHOULD try sanctions first- but be ready for war if necessary- BUT none of this mamby-pamby sissy stuff- it has to be a real “blow the s*** out of everything and let the chips fall where they may” type attack. We didn’t do it in Iraq pt2 or in Afghanistan. Needed to be a real “shock and awe” thing. Like Iraq pt1

      Think the world (and Al Queda) would sit up and take notice then?

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    • abc
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 4:24pm

      Captain77, well said. But the sad truth is that the US has been an imperial power for a long time. The US has been a less agressive one that Britain or Spain before that, but we project spheres of influence around the world and have been willing to preemptively invade all the time. It wasn’t just Bush in Iraq post 9/11, it was Clinton in Kosovo and Somalia, Reagan in Grenada, Nicaragua and Beiruit (before he turned tail). This is the problem with BOTH parties’ lust for military power, and it is explained by the public’s willingness to unquestioningly stand behind its government on these foreign escapades. Those that protested the war in Vietnam were roundly rebuked. Ayers is called a terrorist, while a US government that projects military power to defend interests abroad that have nothing to do with our freedoms or security at home is referred to as the greatest country in the history of mankind. This is total nonsense. Saddam Hussein, Mao Tse Tung, and many other dictators have manipulated their people with perpetual war. But that strategy works on all human beings, given our nature, and it works on Americans too. If you want to stop draining the Treasury on unnecessary wars, then you ought to stop waiving the US flag so proudly and then, alternately, pretending as though a country with 10,000 nuclear warheads and an annual defense budget multiples larger than the rest of the world combined is really at risk at all. Aggressively attack anyone who calls for military action anywhere. Our threats are not military. They are fiscal. And they cannot be fixed by neutering Iran. Iran is a threat to Israel, so let Israel solve that problem. If Americans worry about Israel, then buy a gun and move to a Kibbutz or send checks to that country’s government to support the war effort (like many Irish did during the conflict in Northern Ireland). Israel’s interests are not aligned with our, and we have no business attacking another middle east country preemptively. History will not judge the US kindly for all of this aggressive action over the last 50 years.

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 5:56pm

      @2
      What he said makes him a rino. Read history. This is how the republicrats pull you away from liberty. War.
      Its hard for me to understand how so many on this site can agree with such lunacy as another war.
      Graham and what he said is more dangerous to Liberty then anything the nuts on the openly left have done over the past 2 years.

      Its hard for me to feel optimistic when those who supposedly have been waking up refuse to give up their empirical talk.

      “It is our turn.
      Our turn to do what?
      Our turn to assume the responsibilities of moral leadership in the world.
      Our turn to maintain a balance of power against the forces of evil everywhere — in Europe and Asia and Africa, in the Atlantic and in the Pacific, by air and by sea — evil in this case being the Russian barbarian.
      Our turn to keep the peace of the world.
      Our turn to save civilization.
      Our turn to serve mankind.
      But this is the language of Empire. The Roman Empire never doubted that it was the defender of civilization. Its good intentions were peace, law and order. The Spanish Empire added salvation. The British Empire added the noble myth of the white man’s burden. We have added freedom and democracy. Yet the more that may be added to it the more it is the same language still. A language of power.”

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    • Blazergirl
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 7:43pm

      Why is it that our government always wants to go to war? We can’t afford to go have one more war. Helloooo Senator Graham. Your new chum President Obama has really no clue when it comes to war. You boys up in Washington have no problem sending our men and women to wars while you sit in your comfortable congressional seats thinking you know how to run a war. You have no clue because if you did we would have already won them. These past and present wars have absolutely no meaning and will make no difference for our country except sending our soldiers on suicide missions. Remember Vietam? When 9/11 happened you can’t tell me that our special forces could not go in and get the job done in a reasonable amount of time? Of course they could but you just needed to drag it out much much longer than necessary. I believe this war is just another diversion for you progressives to get other agenda passed us. If you really wanted to stop Iran, you all ( the UN) could have easily done so by simply and completely shunning Iran economically/ politically and any country that was in “business” with them. Why has the UN allowed Iran’s leader to come to the US and be so insulting? Really. Why are we giving billions to Pakistan? They are soooo taking us for a ride. Why are other countries (our allies for example) tolerating Iran’s type of behavior?

      Something so doesn’t smell right. Either way Senator Graham, South Carolina has your political days numbered. I seriously doubt you will be re-elected when the time comes. Shame you decided to become co-opted. You should have stayed on the Jim Demint platform. Don’t even think about running for POTUS. You‘d be wasting the GOP’s money.

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    • StMichelob
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 10:48pm

      DOCVET, the difference with Iran is that the vast majority of their people want their extemist Iatolah regime gone, so that they may succeed in life without interference. remove their obsticle and thes folk will rise up and get control. That being said, I think Lidsay Graham has a picked-on-lil-boy’s mentality, that since he now has power he wants to make the military kick someone’s ass. South Carolina, get him the hell outta Dodge when he is up.
      THAT being said, the best policy is for America to make a secret deal with Israel, that when they feel the need to take defensive action of any kind against Iran we will have their back in the form of 3-5 carrier battle groups if their mission in any way results in retalliatory action from Iran. Could this turn into a poop-storm? Yes, obviously. But if they succeed, like I think they would, then all is well. Either way, Iran needs to be “taken behind the woodshed” for it’s arrogance that it should be allowed to advance its nuclear option. And Israel has her right as a sovereign nation to defend herself.

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    • StMichelob
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 11:01pm

      ABC….Do you even remember the events of September 11th, 2001? We were attacked. America, as a soveriegn nation must defend. These are not imperialistic wars, and of all your examples of American conflicts in the past 20 years, which of those countries have we conquered? Any? So where is you evedence of “imperialism”? You have absolutely none, so shut your propagandist hole. I agree with your right to free speech, but when you overtly lie, then I must make a stand to silence your anti-American spew. So give me facts, or give me your pouty silence, because I don’t want to hear it. And neither does any other truth-loving American.
      Semper Fi and Happy Birthday, Marines!

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    • Kaen
      Posted on November 7, 2010 at 11:37pm

      Diplomacy never works…ask Neville Chaberlain. Warn once, Warn twice, boom. Enough discussion.

      http://thefreeamerica.blogspot.com/

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    • jzs
      Posted on November 8, 2010 at 1:54pm

      Agreed. While were at it, let’s neuter North Korea as well. We may want to knock the Russian army down a notch or two as well.

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