New EPA Rules Could Cost Three MT Plants $90M
- Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:45pm by
Becket Adams
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The Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) plan to “improve air quality and visibility” in famous parks, such as Yellowstone, could cost three industrial plants in Montana up to $90 million dollars in upgrades. The EPA says the Colstrip coal power plant, Ash Grove cement plant near Montana City, and Holcim cement plant would have five years to make the appropriate upgrades.
“The Environmental Protection Agency plan would clear the air in the Big Sky State of about 15,000 tons annually of sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxides,” the Great Falls Tribune reports. “Those pollutants react with the atmosphere to create haze.”
Of the three plants that would be affected by the new regulations, Colstrip would get hit the hardest: the coal power plant will have to spend approximately $80 million to clean the emissions from its stacks. Colstrip operator PPL Montana says the new regulations are far too costly and for only “marginal improvements.” Spokesman David Hoffman said the visibility improvements would be “non-perceptible.”
“We‘re moving very quickly in a short period of time at huge costs to obtain a result that’s pretty questionable,” Hoffman said. “It’s going to be a challenge to the plant.”
But there are some exempt from the new regulations. For instance, the coal plant PPL’s Corette in Billings, MT, isn’t required to make any upgrades.
“The EPA was prodded into action by a legal challenge in part by environmentalists who sued the agency to set deadlines to follow through on haze rules adopted in 1999,” the Great Falls Tribune reports. “Two of the groups involved, WildEarth Guardians and the Montana Environmental Information Center, said the agency’s proposal does not go far enough.”
Indeed, even with these new regulations, spokesmen for the environmentalist groups are still dissatisfied with the EPA.
“People might gasp a little bit and say that’s a lot of money but you have to look at how much these companies are profiting off these facilities. It dwarfs these costs,” said Anne Hedges with the Montana Environmental Information Center.
The new EPA proposal could become final after a 60-day public comment period, the Tribune reports. Public hearings hosted by the EPA are scheduled for May 15 in Helena, MT, and May 16 in Billings.
“[T]he reduction in pollution would have spinoff benefits to public health, particularly among children,” EPA spokesman Rich Mylottt in Denver told the Tribune in an emailed statement.
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welovetheUSA
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:29pm11 months to go to boot the radicals out………………….Thank the Lord
Report Post »shogun459
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:50pmNot going to happen.
Right, like Obama is going to leave the end of the US half done because of a pesky rule like an election.
Report Post »brickmoon
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:55pmI would like to raise awareness about a polluter located in Montana and Wyoming that vents millions of tons of the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide and more than 150 tons of mercury into the air each year. It also produces other toxic gases, with periodic emissions that have killed local wildlife — even large animals.
It has been in continuous operation longer than anyone can remember.
It’s called Yellowstone National Park.
Call your legislator today, and let’s get this dangerous thing shut down.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 9:15pmYour Legislator????
Your “legislator” could care less what you or I want.
Your legislator is not a representative of the people.
Your legislator is a bonded private company.
A subsidary of the mother Corporation.
Here is just one example:
http://www.manta.com/c/mmnqlyz/senator-harry-reid
Welcome to your real-life matrix.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 9:32pmYou can call the PRIVATE COMPANY; the EPA that was established in 1970 in washington D.C..
Report Post »I hear the have a Complaint Department:
http://www.manta.com/c/mm2w3×5/us-environmental-protctn-agcy
oldguy49
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 9:38pmi live in panama city beach and they already closed our coal fired power plant down and are tryng to close arizona chemical down……..buying candles
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 10:12pmI do construction in these coal burners all down the Ohio River. There are 6 coals burners scheduled to be shut down, that I’m aware of… maybe more.
Report Post »brickmoon
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 12:21amWhooosh! (the sound of my point as it flies over)
Why do I even try?
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 5:32am@Brickmoon
Excellent point.
Report Post »brickmoon
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:24amGracias.
Report Post »Link8on
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 8:23amSo the pattern by the EPA is to shut down coal plants here,
Then our coal mining declines.
Then our surviving coal producers can cheaply export to China.
China’s manufacturing profits allow them to review US coal producing sites that were shuttered, so they purchase them cheaply too.
Chinas pollution comes over the pacific.
The EPA cracks down on other dirty facilities, in the USA, so the cycle can continue to the next resource.
EPA seems to be working for China.
Report Post »We should be examining that department for spys / advocates of China, or other nations who want to cheaply acquire our natural resources.
oldguy49
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 8:39amever see the picture of north korea at nite………….
Report Post »VigilantGuardShark
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 9:05amBrickmoon–
Report Post »not only that, it threatens to end life as we know it should it repear a massive ‘super volcano’ eruption. It would kill tens of millions immediately and hundres of millions more over times, perhaps even billions of people the world round. Yes, we should build a huge chimney around yellowstone to vent such an eruption directly into space. Just think of the jobs such a civil engineering project would create, and the children it would save. My God man, it would SAVE THE EARTH!!! (sarcasm)
GrayPanther
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 10:43amAmen to that! We have had our fill with the EPA and their make work and raise costs projects. government being a monopoly manages to keep funding these bureaucrats without any real oversight. Its time to pull funding and roll back regs to the 1980 level.
Report Post »piper60
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:19pmfor the love of big brother
Report Post »michael48
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:34pmoperate for five years then mothball…part of chairman Ocommies jobs bill…BTW hope like he!! the wind blows and sunshines ..or just turn the heat off..
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 8:04pmThey can shut down the coal mine and put up about 10,000 wind turbins around the rim of Yellowstone. Now that would be Justice. It would be like the ones they were going to install off Marthas Vinyard. I remember how Kennedy and Walter Croncrite squaked. The whole project was trashed.
Report Post »FloridaFarmGirl
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:18pmIs anyone really surprised by this latest attempt to destroy business and jobs? The EPA is the first that needs to go and second would be the NLRB. It seems obvious that this administration is determined to kill energy and jobs and also the American ecomony. Where is Obama planning to move to to become the New World Leader, which has been his plan all along (Agenda 21 comes to mind as well).
Report Post »Eblaze44
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 10:00pmCan‘t say he didn’t warn you – hope and change.
Report Post »57states
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 8:57amRight because if things get a lot worse, he wont be living here ….he dont want to have musolinni’s fate! the only way to stop this is if we all rise up at the same time! no other way!
Report Post »RetUSAFVet
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:13pmPlease do not shut down the power plants. Instead, find the names and addresses of all EPA members, and every member of a tree hugger organization, and SHUT OFF THEIR power. Let them put in their own wind and solar power to replace the coal generated power. (It only takes 100 acres of solar panels to partially power one small business complex) See how soon they will change their minds.
Report Post »FANGS
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:03pmGoogle: The “Johnson Motor ” and never use the Power company cartel’s power again, Never.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:24pmDo you have any experience with one of these motors?
Report Post »FANGS
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:59pmIt is now time for Companies being assulted by the EPA to take action. We must now set up a connection with the Mexican Cartel Hitmen.Money talks. Pay them a hefty sum of cash and Put contracts out on Tyranical Marxist Regulators. American Democrats are no longer operating in a lawfull manner. Businesses must now take our own appropriate action. Laweful or not. If one company hired 5 Hitmen at 5000 a piece, Guaranteed at least one of them would succeed.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:58pmNothing like some good old fashion redistribution of wealth. There’s just more millionaires right now than there has ever been before. Who cares, it’s all blood money anyways, and that’s why all you millionaires came by it so easy, because it just got printed.
Report Post »dlo
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:55pmThis truly makes me sick we really need to shut this evil organization down. They are destroying America as we know it
Report Post »aChameleon
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:48pmI hope the people of Montana remember this come November.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:12pmRon Paul, if elected would dismantle the EPA, on day one of his presidency.
But no, he’s not “electable”.
He would end the association (actually an international lien) with the PRIVATE BANK, the Federal Reserve.
You know, that bank that took control of our Treasury in 1920 due to the 1913 federal reserve act.
The PRIVATE bank that PRINTS “money” from thin air and loans it to our “government” (which is actually a Corporation” – look up The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871.) with INTEREST.
But he is not “electable”.
He would end the IRS and INCOME TAX on day one, and allow 100% free enterprise with minimal regulations.
But no, he is not “electable”.
He would enforce our borders and deport illegals. Also, he would cut off ALL of their “government” benefits.
Report Post »But no….
coldnorth
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 2:58amCongress can defund the EPA today, but it needs a scapegoat. It much easier for them to point the finger of blame at someone else, than to take a stand for what is right and risk upsetting a small but vocal part of the electorate.
Report Post »pidpit
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 1:04pmDon’t worry..we will.
Report Post »Huguenot1732
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:46pmThe EPA, cutting American enegy production and jobs at the same time, Obama and the tree huggers must be proud.
Report Post »Eblaze44
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:40pmLet’s see – Obama and cronies gave Solyndra $500 Million for “green” energy, I’d think $90M for cleaning up these power plants would be a much better payout – jobs – cleaner air – and keep the onus OFF the energy buyers.
Report Post »2small2succeed
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:53pmGood point…..agendas…..maybe part of agenda-21 in process?
Report Post »Kinnison
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:40pmDon’t you just love the last line of the article? Essentially, “It’s for the children…” What a typical liberal progressive Democrat mantra. “The children” are going to have to cope with parents who will now have to pay an additional $90 million in energy costs to amortize the EPA-mandated changes in their electric utilities’ plants. Thanks a lot, Tree-Huggers. These whackos care more about “The Environment” than they do about people. Hey, a lot of the electricity produced in Coalstrip is exported via high-voltage lines to Arizona and California… Perhaps Montana Power should simply cut back until they are only producing enough power for their home state. And then a bunch of eco-freaks in California can dehydrate and starve to death in the dark. That would be a win/win situation.
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:46pmIt’s for the chillins!!
Report Post »cheyenne1028
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:57pm…wait ’till I leave CA first, please. The state has gone nuts
Report Post »dlo
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:58pmI love you comment lets see them do it
Report Post »Eblaze44
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 10:04pmIt surely is going to be “for the children” to pay and pay and pay – serf’s to the elite Socialists that will be running this United Socialist States of America. Can‘t say we don’t love them – they are going to pay for it well.
Report Post »Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 10:11pm@Riightunite
Report Post »Quit being so damn prophetic!
gryffn
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 1:44pmWhose children exactly? Not American children.
Report Post »ranchoazulmt
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 4:09pmMontana Power does not own these plants or anything else. Montana Power does not exist.
Report Post »Eblaze44
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:38pmThe government AUTHORIZED AND PERMITTED these power plants – if the GOVERNMENT (AKA _ EPA) wants them upgraded – then let the EPA/government PAY for it. This post approval crap needs to have some basis in law that after the plant is approved built and in production – oh – wait a minute – you need to add this and that – it is typical cost overrun – it‘s NOT the governments money and they don’t care.
Report Post »Link8on
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 8:29amIf only we could promote an EPA in China that is as aggresive as the one we have here.
Report Post »sallyredneck
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:36pmSomeone please explain to me where the replacement energy will come from, the attact on the coal fire power plants in this nation has left a huge hole for electrical use. Maybe the Epa will have lack of Heat and Air Conditioning in the coming years.
Report Post »Lt_Scrounge
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 9:22pmObamao is simply following in the path laid out by Jimma Cahtah. I remember when Jimma’s EPA caused numerous coal fired power plants to convert to oil to meet their ridiculous emissions standards costing tens of thousands of coal miners their jobs. Luckily Dad’s mine was owned by the power company so it made more sense for them to do the plant upgrades. Lot‘s of my friend’s dads lost their jobs.
Report Post »gryffn
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 1:47pmThey don’t care. The bigger pictuire is the gutting of America. Chaos reigns as all these Cass Sunstein regs come into force. They want people to get into the streets and are even training their own “troops” for a May1 street event. Then the hammer comes down.
Report Post »Now is the time for the “I Will Not Comply”.
SpeckledPup
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:31pmone really good thing about obama’s civil war, we will know exactly who to target to bring in to Justice for being his collaborators. … all the alphabet arms of the communist party…. PP, EPA, TSA, NPR, CNN, MSNBC, DEA, NBC, ABC, CBS, the 9th Circuit Court and all those other communist and muslim democrat anti-American judges ……
Report Post »MainThingIsDontGetExcited
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:27pmEnvironmentalists can sue the EPA to make more rules, but we consumers must get a supreme court judgement to be able to sue the EPA for their arbitrary fines.
Report Post »SpeckledPup
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:27pmthe EPA is nothing but another arm of the communist party. drag all those cockroaches out into the light and bring them to trial and Justice.
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:25pmI tell you if this doesn’t wake up Democrat coal miners and power plant workers.. than I don’t know what will. They would have to be just dumber than heck to vote Obama the worst American President ever back into office. We are being regulated to death.. November, shut em down! Lord help us!
Report Post »dwh320
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:19pmThe more it becomes clear Obama will lose the next election, you will see the Progressive go into high gear to impose more regulations designed to weaken America.
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:34pmThe only way to combat this creeping treason, that the Federal Govt. is perpetrating, is for states to just say that they will not enforce any rules or mandates such as this, or allow the Feds to do it either, within the borders of the state. We will then see how little power Washington has, if/when states begin to say “I will not comply”.
Washington also depends on the fact, that states allow it to assess and collect taxes on citizens, within the borders of each respective state, so I have to wonder, what would happen, if some states started to refuse to let the government do this?…..hmmm
Report Post »SoupSandwich
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:42pm@ TX
Report Post »Those states would see massive numbers of people immigrating to them…
aChameleon
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:12pmPower bills are going to necessarily skyrocket in Montana. He wasn‘t lyin’. Hows that for hope and change?
Report Post »SpeckledPup
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:26pmobama’s hope and change is really hatred and communism. he is trying to ghetto America.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:54pmTheyre gonna break Americans yet they wont let you live on your property in a trailer because that will be Verboten too!!!
Report Post »http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/local/north_central/madison-county-evicts-man-from-trailer
nzkiwi
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:58pmNo, he didn’t lie, but a lot of people weren’t listening.
They are listening closely now, though. Thank God.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:12pmDo not comply. Simple. Then go to the media and argue your case. Then shut down the plant and tell the Government where to stick it…
Atlas shrugged…
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:10pmDay 1 .. repeal Obamacare, Defund/close EPA, NEA, TSA ….. etc.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:25pmCATB
Report Post »Day one issue a exective order that repeals all exective orders obama issued
Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:06pmRemember, Obama declared that under his energy policies prices for power and electiricity would of necessity skyrocket. One more part of his madness made manifest to the rest of us.
Report Post »dwh320
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:16pmAs the cost of power skyrockets and more jobs are lost the progressive agenda to destroy free market America marches on….
Report Post »I SPY
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:53pmEPA = joke
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:04pmSo is O.S.H.A. Who cares about pollution and workplace safety. That’s just un-American.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:42pmNothing to do with Osha, the EPA needs to go to Yellowstone and test the gases coming out of the ground naturally. They might be surprised that Sulfur dioxide coming out of the thousands of geysers and mud pots in Yellowstone give off tons of this gas every year.
Report Post »possom
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:48pmRemember when they tried to classify milk as a hazardous substance! LOL
Report Post »SoupSandwich
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:46pmYeh, unions can’t stand stupid job slowing extra money bs osha rules and regs. Beaurocrats suck in any shape, form or acronym.
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 3:28pmEPA = too powerful gov’t agency used by Obama and his crowd to drive up costs of production of energy to make our energy costs more than most can afford to make our economy fail to take over. I would like to see the EPA be done away with along with the NEA.
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:52pmGood.
Report Post »$90.000.000 for new jobs.
That’s how jobs are created.
kaydeebeau
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:54pmIsn’t that odd – trees cause haze too – ever been to the Smokey Mountains – ever wonder why they are called that? Just sayin
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:56pmFailed economics huh – they will have to lay people off and will have to raise rates to cover the extra costs.
Let’s try this for an example – If your electric bill goes up $500 month, do you then think you have more or less money to go buy other things?
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:01pmYour ignorance knows no bounds,tell us who do you think will pay for the 90 million in ‘upgrades’?
Report Post »The Marxist regime currently in power isn’t interested in clearing the air,that notion is for gullible people,no they’re interested in putting coal fire plants out of business and making our energy cost more than it should.
Psychosis
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:06pmi bet people tell you your an idiot all the time, but your just too dumb to take a hint
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:09pmmarybethelizabeth
Report Post »You’re leaking again
Listen_then_think
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:18pmMary you are a clown right? Because I know you had to be joking. 90 mill means that the plant will close or they will lay off most of their staff which means LESS jobs and LESS power. So when summer hits and Commiefornia needs more electricity to power the A/C or all of its electric cars, the rolling brown outs that turn into the rolling blackouts will be longer than ever. I hope you live in commiefornia Mary then you can reap what you sow.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:19pm@progslayer… I think that was meant to be sarcasm.
Smokey mountains? That’s fog/cloud layer.
However, whining about co2 is beyond nonsensical. Every green plant needs CO2 for photosynthesis.
Report Post »Amazingly, God made the trees that way, and He even made them emit OXYGEN. God’s beautiful air scrubbers. Plants need CO2, so limiting CO2 is anti-plant!
Enough Plants Already (EPA) LOL
marybethelizabeth
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:30pmA challenge to the plant doesn’t sound like lay offs and rate hikes to me.
We are a nation of laws. The company should have voluntarily complied with existing laws.
You Keys seem more upset then the plant operators.
Report Post »My3Girls
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:53pmMarybethelizabeth, you do not seem to understand. The EPA constantly contradicts itself. It issues rules, then when a company complies with them it isn’t enough and they make an entirely different set of rules. I am speaking from experience, as my family is in the coal industry. The entire plan of the EPA is to bankrupt industry and make the price of energy too high, thus making all of us dependent on the government for our sustenance.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:59pmTOMFERRARI I was addressing Mary the intellectual titan,also to the blaze, my insult to psychosis was censored.Apparently I can be insulted but I’m not allowed to answer. I‘ll try again Psychosis this is for you pull your head out you’re a moron.
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:06pmI could be wrong but I don’t think posts are censored.
I think there is something wrong with the comment section computer code.
Posts seem to drop frequently near the bottom of the page shortly before a page two is created.
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:12pmI don’t think your post was censored.
I think there is something wrong with the computer code that causes comments to be lost near the bottom of a page right before a page two is created
Report Post »SoupSandwich
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:44pm@ ME
Report Post »Stop with the crack. It really does kill.
kaydeebeau
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:44pm@Mary – Did you miss the part about “new ”laws”? Hint – story Headline:”New EPA Rules….”
Let’s try the math thing again. If you get new tax levied against you for $500, how much less is your income?
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 9:38pmDid you read the story? The New Rules are from 1999, last century.
A court ruling is the new part.
If the companies had acted responsibly the work would already be done and the cost may have been less.
They’d rather pay lawyers than lessen the harm they do to the communities in which they operate.
The $90,000,000 figure is an estimate.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on March 28, 2012 at 2:35pmlike yes, I, like, did read it especially this part …”The new EPA proposal could become final after a 60-day public comment period, the Tribune reports. Public hearings hosted by the EPA are scheduled for May 15 in Helena, MT, and May 16 in Billings.”
New general means, especially as used in this case, regulations that just happened. Since 1999 didn’t just happen it follows that the 1999 regs are not being discussed as the new ones.
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