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New Evidence Suggests King Herod Didn’t Complete the Western Wall

King Herod Didnt Complete the Western Wall, New Evidence Suggests

Visitors walk in the Davidson Center near the Western Wall, the holiest site where Jews can pray, in Jerusalem's Old City, Wednesday, Nov. 23, 2011. (AP Photo/Sebastian Scheiner)

JERUSALEM (The Blaze/AP) — Newly found coins underneath Jerusalem‘s Western Wall could change the accepted belief about the construction of one of the world’s most sacred sites two millennia ago, Israeli archaeologists said Wednesday.

The man usually credited with building the compound known to Jews as the Temple Mount and to Muslims as the Noble Sanctuary is Herod, a Jewish ruler who died in 4 B.C. Herod’s monumental compound replaced and expanded a much older Jewish temple complex on the same site.

But archaeologists with the Israel Antiquities Authority now say diggers have found coins underneath the massive foundation stones of the compound‘s Western Wall that were stamped by a Roman proconsul 20 years after Herod’s death.

That indicates that Herod likely began, but did not complete construction on the wall – part of which is venerated as Judaism’s holiest prayer site – and that construction was not close to being complete when he died.

“The find changes the way we see the construction, and shows it lasted for longer than we originally thought,” said the dig’s co-director, Eli Shukron.

King Herod Didnt Complete the Western Wall, New Evidence Suggests

An ancient coin, one of 17 discovered in an underground part of the Western Wall, the holiest site where Jews can pray, is seen in a presentation of archeological excavations in Jerusalem's Old City, Wednesday, Nov. 23, 2011. Photo: Sebastian Scheiner / AP

The four most recently recovered bronze coins were stamped around 17 A.D. by the Roman official Valerius Gratus. He preceded Pontius Pilate of the New Testament story as Rome’s representative in Jerusalem, according to Ronny Reich of Haifa University, one of the two archaeologists in charge of the dig.

The coins were found inside a ritual bath that predated construction of the renovated Temple Mount complex and which was filled in to support the new walls, Reich said.

They show that construction of the Western Wall had not even begun at the time of Herod’s death. Instead, it was likely completed only generations later by one of his descendants.

The Jerusalem Post reports:

The coins confirm a contemporary account by Josephus Flavius, a Jewish general who became a Roman historian. Writing after a Jewish revolt against Rome and the destruction of the Temple by legionnaires in 70 A.D., he recounted that work on the Temple Mount had been completed only by King Agrippa II, Herod’s great-grandson, two decades before the entire compound was destroyed.

The Jewish Forward corroborates this claim:

According to Dr. Donald Ariel, curator of the IAA numismatic collection…“This bit of archaeological information illustrates the fact that the construction of the Temple Mount walls and Robinson’s Arch was an enormous project that lasted decades and was not completed during Herod’s lifetime,” said the IAA, adding that the find confirms descriptions by the Jewish historian Josephus, which state that it was only during the reign of King Agrippa II (Herod’s great-grandson) that the work was finished.”

King Herod Didnt Complete the Western Wall, New Evidence Suggests

Visitors are reflected as they walk in the Davidson Center near the Western Wall, the holiest site where Jews can pray, in Jerusalem's Old City, Wednesday, Nov. 23, 2011. The Al-Aqsa mosque is seen in the back. Photo: Sebastian Scheiner / AP

Scholars have long been familiar with Josephus’ account, but the find is nonetheless important because it offers the “first clear-cut archaeological evidence that part of the enclosure wall was not built by Herod,” said archaeologist Aren Maeir of Bar-Ilan University, who was not involved in the dig.

Josephus also wrote that the end of construction left 18,000 workmen unemployed in Jerusalem. Some historians have linked this to discontent that eventually erupted in the Jewish revolt.

The compound, controlled since 1967 by Israel, now houses the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the golden-capped Muslim shrine known as the Dome of the Rock. The fact that the compound is holy both to Jews and Muslims makes it one of the world’s most sensitive religious sites.

The dig in which the coins were discovered cleared a Roman-era drainage tunnel that begins at the biblical Pool of Siloam, one of the city’s original water sources, and terminates with a climb up a ladder out onto a 2,000-year-old street inside Jerusalem’s Old City. The tunnel runs by the foundation stones of the compound’s western wall, where the coins were found.

The drainage tunnel was excavated as part of the dig at the City of David, which is perhaps Israel’s richest archaeological excavation and its most contentious.

The dig is being carried out inside the Palestinian neighborhood of Silwan, and is funded by a group associated with the Israeli settlement movement that opposes any division of the city as part of a future peace deal.

The excavation of the tunnel has also yielded a Roman sword, oil lamps, pots and coins that scholars believe are likely debris from an attempt by Jewish rebels to hide in the underground passage as they fled from the Roman soldiers.

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  • GTH
    Posted on November 25, 2011 at 4:30pm

    I could have told you that King Herod didn’t finish the wall. King Herod didn’t even start the wall. Kin Herod never even lifted a single rock. Me thinks all King Herod did was watch others build it.

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  • AB5r
    Posted on November 25, 2011 at 3:35pm

    The Muslims trying to lay claim to the Temple Mount is like having a mentally challenged child around who any time some other kid picks up a toy or tries to sit somewhere the mentally challenged child jumps in and tries to claim the same spot, not because it means anything to him but just because the other child is using it. Muslims must be removed from the Temple Mount and the Al Aqsa mosque removed. What an absurdity, Islam wasn’t even made up until the 7th century AD. Muhammad never visited Jerusalem but they claim he flew there on a winged unicorn. Muslims are no better than any gang that tags over the graffiti of other gangs who were there first. They destroy the temples of the indigenous culture and then build filthy mosques on top to show their dominance and the submission of the conquered. Islam out of the West now.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on November 27, 2011 at 6:31am

      Which is the reason that knowledgeable people did NOT want the 9/11 SITE used for a Mosque. Muslim will try to claim it‘s just a ’Civic Center“ for ”all people” but we know good and well that it‘s nothing more than a ’Conqueror’s Trophy”.. One other thing: IF WE ALL (Christians/Jews/Muslims) did, in fact, worship the SAME GOD we could have settled our differences years / centuries …ago. BUT THEY do not worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. They don’t have one, but TWO Messiahs and like AB5R says, Islam did not begin until 700 AD. GOD has not / would not break His covenant with his CHOSEN people, the JEWS. Jews did not kill Jesus. Jesus came to die for our sins. Jesus was Jewish, Mary was Jewish, as were most of the Apostles . I believe that Jesus named the JEWS as His Chosen people because they worshiped Him…not a bunch of Idols..and being human they ran hot and cold about their faith (like we do today) but God knew there would be a CULT in the end times who would try to claim they worshiped him (The Great I AM) also, but it’s false. Nothing they do is part of the teachings of our GOD. Only what they took from the Old/New testaments to try to mimic our Faiths so what they came up with (ISLAM) would be appealing to people. Once in, you could never get out. GOD (the real GOD) never has to threaten anyone. He doesn’t want us to come to HIM out of FEAR (he says FEAR NOT more than anything else in the BIBLE!!) We know they ar

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  • Arshloch
    Posted on November 25, 2011 at 2:49pm

    And this is important how?

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  • Bella Rose
    Posted on November 25, 2011 at 2:31pm

    Were they using union workers?

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  • shofar
    Posted on November 25, 2011 at 2:29pm

    @stmikearchangel:
    Using that perspective, then are you saying that God has the right to break his holy covenant with any group that fails to keep all that He commands? If so, then you are playing right into the hands of Islam. If God can break His holy and eternal covenant with the Jews, then why can’t he break His covenant with Christians? Islam came about during time of apostasy and a rise in the church’s earthly power and influence. The early Roman Catholic Church was not a pillar of sanctity, and using your view of the Jews, God could have sent Mohammad to start over with Islam.

    God’s covenant, both to the Jew and Gentile Christians is a holy and everlasting covenant. Not something that can be tossed into the dustbin at will. God cannot lie, and if He said that this is an eternal and everlasting covenant and then changes His mind, He would be a liar. Please rethink your view of God’s promise not only to the Jew, but to the Gentile.

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    • Greenwood
      Posted on November 25, 2011 at 5:08pm

      A covenant is not just one sided is it? It is a binding agreement made by two or more individuals or parties.
      Hebrews 12: 24 Jesus the mediator of a new covenant……………

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  • stmikearchangel
    Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:34am

    The jews should not even be in holy land. When they rejected Jesus as the messiah, instead they made sure he was crucified by the romans. They gave up their birthrite to the holy land. That is why the diaspora happened. The temple was destroyed because Christ was the ultimate sacrifice. Deuteronomy 28:58…64
    If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book… the Lord shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.

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    • Counter-Culture Revolutionist
      Posted on November 25, 2011 at 2:38pm

      Your statement bothers me a great deal on several levels. You have been incorrectly taught.

      First, the Bible is very clear that God‘s everlasting covenant was made with Abraham through the Hebrew line of Isaac in order to bless all mankind through Jesus Christ’s death and resurrection. That covenant continues to this day, although it is no longer necessary to administer theblood atonement, which was completed in Jesus Christ.

      The covenant included God’s gift of land which Israel now owns. (Actually, the land contract between God and Abraham was much larger than it is today (see Genesis 15) and it occurred thousands of years before the creation of Islam by a man, Muhammad.)

      God is holy and just and does not break His covenants. He told Abraham it was an everlasting contract that He was making with him through the line of Isaac and that is sufficient to seal permanently Israel’s right to all of the land. The fact is, the Palestinians are occuping Israel’s land. It does not matter what man (the UN) dictates; God‘s judgment is above man’s laws.

      As to the crucifixion, EVERY human nailed Jesus to the cross because of our sin. The Jewish leaders and Romans unknowingly participated in God‘s plan for man’s salvation; they didn’t make Jesus die in our place. The Bible says that the Branch of Salvation is Jewish and that all non Jews who are saved are grafted into/made a part of that branch. In the latter days, many Jews will finally acknowledge that Je

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    • Greenwood
      Posted on November 25, 2011 at 4:58pm

      @COUNTER-CULTURE…………God is holy and just and does not break His covenants.

      He did not break His covenant, but he did say in Exodus 19: 5 And now if you will strictly obey my voice and will indeed keep my covenant, then you will certainly become my special property out of all other peoples, because the whole earth belongs to me.

      John 19: 15 “we have no king but Caesar”

      Matthew 21: 43 Therfore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruit of it.

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    • stmikearchangel
      Posted on November 25, 2011 at 4:58pm

      God did not break his covenant the jews broke it, they failed to recognize Jesus as the Messiah. Paul writes about it here…. Paul in Acts 13:27:

      “For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.”

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on November 25, 2011 at 5:50pm

      The covenant made with Abraham is still in effect. Genesis 11 and 12

      Later, the Law Covenant was made with the nation of Israel through Moses and Israel agreed to the terms. The terms were rejected by Israel when the promised Messiah arrived, the Law Covenant was broken with Israel. So it was the Law Covenant that the nation of Israel broke.
      Exodus 19, Deuteronomy 28, Jeremiah 31:31-34, Hebrews 8:13

      The study of the various covenants in the Bible is a fascinating occupation. There is not a satisfying way of covering this subject on a forum like this Blaze site.

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    • BlessedONE333
      Posted on November 26, 2011 at 4:40pm

      @stmikearchangel WOW YOU ARE IGNORANT
      First off by listing the name “jews” in such a broad way is ridiculous! I can’t help but laugh at how dumb you are!
      There are more hebrew downline of DNA BLOOD in the entire area of Israel now and the middle east! even millions in the USA so that is hilarious what you said about the ‘jews’ you remind me of irrational muslims!
      The Human Genome Project which studies the very blood that runs through our veins shows that even some of the ‘arabs’ claiming mohammad as their savior actually have the blood of Israel keep them alive! This is a fight of ideas – Islam is a cancer that is spreading like wild fire. It is not the truth of a real religion – it is a form of government using a fake moon god for a story line!

      The hebrew people are not all talmud jews – pharisees, which is the sect that killed Yeshua [Jesus] and can be full of blind hating jews.
      There are Torah jews who love the word of the Real God and are great people – in fact some of them created the software used in this very computer you are using!
      then there are messianic jews – they love Jesus. there numbers are growing greatly in Israel

      so all these different types of people live in Israel and I’m lucky enough to have a few friends from there! I‘m guessing by your statement you never been there and don’t know anyone from there huh?
      maybe you should go – before you type another word!

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  • Rayseafus
    Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:04am

    I believe the land of Israel was deeded to the ones that fled the slavery of Egypt.
    This deed is recorded somewhere. Oh Yeah! It’s in the Bible. Recorded thousands of years ago.
    Now did they sell it? No? Does anyone on the face of the earth have the authority to revoke
    God’s deed. I would say no.
    Now if you don’t believe any of that then there is no use in reading this. Your heart has been “hardened.”
    The Palestinians were thrown out of Jordan. King Hussein I believe it was put a price on Arafat’s head. The Palestinians do not play well with others when they aren’t killing each other and they do. It appears the only thing they do well is launch rockets and schools, buses and the kids in them.

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  • Ghandi was a Republican
    Posted on November 25, 2011 at 10:54am

    Other evidence indicates mecca lies upon the place of Solomon’s Temple. Further evidence on behalf of Islam itself indicates it is time to return this ground to it’s previous state! These should be the stakes and the spoils of war clause should apply equally.

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    • Counter-Culture Revolutionist
      Posted on November 25, 2011 at 7:15pm

      Dear Ghandi,

      You said, “Other evidence indicates mecca lies upon the place of Solomon’s Temple. Further evidence on behalf of Islam itself indicates it is time to return this ground to it’s previous state! These should be the stakes and the spoils of war clause should apply equally.”

      Very insightful. As Mecca is upon the ruins of Solomon’s Temple, it is clear that this was previously land that belonged to the Jews. We know from current and ancient history that Muslims take over conquered territory/property and put their own stamp on it such as churches being turned into mosques. Therefore, as you so eloquently communicated, it is time to return the ground to its previous state which was under Jewish control.

      You also made an excellent point saying that the spoils of war clause apply equally. Therefore, Israel should not return ANY land to the Muslims and, in fact, the Muslims should return all land to Israel based on their victory in the 1967 war.

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    • baker john
      Posted on November 26, 2011 at 5:43am

      Seems to me the Jewish Nation then won the rights to Jerusalem, Golan, West Bank, Gaza and Sinai (desert which they returned ) during the previous wars. Since the Muslims claimed any land they conquered and the Jews conquered the above mentioned I guess it belongs to the Jews now, going by Muslim rules of war.

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  • Coolcat51
    Posted on November 25, 2011 at 9:36am

    Here is what the world is upto. http://garykah.com/shgo.html

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  • seekverta
    Posted on November 25, 2011 at 9:21am

    If any of the commentors were actually and really concerned with an accurate and true history of the israelites, including Jewish history, and where and when the Old Testament histories were written and occurred, then they would have availed themselves of the works of Ahmed Osman, Ralph Ellis and other historians, who have shown that these Old Testament histories actually occurred in areas of the Nile Delta near Tanis (Sion) and not in Judea. It is now clear factual history that Moses, Joseph, Jacob (Israel), Issac, etc…all the way back to Abram (Abraham) occurred in what is now known as (northern) Egypt. Their (City of David, Temple of Solomon, etc) historical sites have been identified and located and are being excavated. However, this is not to say that Judeans (ancestors of Joseph) lived in and had possession of (what we call) the Holy Land…thousand of years before Islam. Muslims have no legitimate claim upon Jerusalem or any of that land. Mohammed never set foot in Jerusalem….he only saw himself there in a dream. I dream of Paris…but that does not make Paris mine and I have no legitimate claim on France as my homeland. Simply because of polygamy and rapid population growth, and the fact that my numbers have expanded quickly does not make a land which I have overrun with population mine to claim as being original inhabitants…

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  • Meyvn
    Posted on November 25, 2011 at 7:12am

    Eliasim, the answer is Christ, who came in the flesh, died, resurrected, and will come again. Soon.

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  • American_Woman
    Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:53pm

    The important fact that I took away from actually seeing this site in August was that there is evidence of two Jewish temples UNDER the mosque – undeniable proof of who was there first.

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    • UPSETVET
      Posted on November 25, 2011 at 7:00am

      The Muslims weren’t in Jerusalem before the Jews. They came several centuries later as “squatters” and like most squatters, the longer they stayed the more they began to believe Jerusalem and all of “Palestine” belonged to them. The “Palestinans” came from areas east of the River Jordan where Jordan is today. They have NO LEGITIMATE CLAIM of ownership of Israeli territories. They are just SQUATTERS.

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  • semihardrock
    Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:17pm

    I THINK…….THE POINT IS….The Jews have been there for awhile and have a legitimate claim to live there UNLIKE what others are ALWAYS preaching including our current sitting President and OTHER Muslims.

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  • Katydidnt
    Posted on November 24, 2011 at 10:27pm

    Well one thing they have wrong is that Herod died in 1 BC not 4 BC. It was long thought to be 4 BC. It turned out to be a typo. All parchments before a certain date say 1 BC, all parchments after a certain date say 4 BC. They believe a calligrapher made a mistake and it kept getting recopied, and recopied. The earliest parchments say 1 BC. Whoever wrote this should have known that, if he is dating things by when certain kings lived.

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    • eric6161
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:30pm

      Katy… I have a coin dated 1 BC I’ll sell you. LOL

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    • WSGAC
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:31pm

      @KATYDIDNT – Katy, you said, “It turned out to be a typo. All parchments before a certain date say 1 BC, all parchments after a certain date say 4 BC.”

      LMAO!! I wonder if those fellas writing those parchments in 4 BC knew that Christ would be born 4 years later? Katy, can you show us a parchment that has a date of 1 BC on it? as well as one that has a date of 4 BC on it?

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    • CHICAGOTHUGBUCKET
      Posted on November 25, 2011 at 12:56am

      Bad toner cartridge in the scribe machine maybe?

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    • Katydidnt
      Posted on November 25, 2011 at 6:46am

      The historians who were writing the about it. Were writing about it later.

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  • COFemale
    Posted on November 24, 2011 at 10:06pm

    Anything that can bring us to an understanding of when Biblical events occurred, the better we can understand the sequence of events. You must remember there are no real dates written in the Bible so how much time passed on an event isn’t clear. If you assume Adam and Eve equate to year one, then about 1,654 years after their creation is when the flood occurred and one year after that is when the Flood was over. Noah died 350 years after the flood, which means he died in the Biblical year 2005 or year 350 +/- 1 year, if you assume that the day of the flood is once again the beginning of year one. The furthest that I have been able to track up to is about 600 years after the flood. After that time you don’t have enough info to determine how much time has passed. I stopped at Jacob and Esau.

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  • Bakko Bomma
    Posted on November 24, 2011 at 9:11pm

    The New Testament has Jesus predicting the destruction of the temple and that not one stone will be left standing upon another and yet there’s that wall.

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    • garyM
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 9:25pm

      I think the Temple that Solomon built was totally destroyed, a temple was constructed after Solomons Temple, the one Jesus referred to was totally destroyed! If Jesus said it, you can believe it happened just the way he said it would, when you see something in the Bible that seems to contradict another part, we need to study harder to understand because the entire Word Of God fits together perfectly!

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    • skilaxdad
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 9:26pm

      I believe that the Western Wall was part of the enclosure of the Temple Mount area, not actually a part of the Temple itself. The Temple that Jesus prophesied would be destroyed without one stone being left upon another, was a building inside the enclosed area. The Temple itself was secluded inside those walls in order to help keep it from being defiled.

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    • garyM
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 9:40pm

      Mark 14:58
      We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.

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    • absolutelynot
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 10:14pm

      You do not understand scripture Bomma , he is using a parable of his own death and resurreection in 3 days Seek and you shall find. nice try though

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    • willbedone
      Posted on November 25, 2011 at 8:36am

      That is a retaining wall and is NOT part of the temple complex. Most of the walls, especially the eastern wall was erected over the rubble of the former structures my a Muslim leader.

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    • Bakko Bomma
      Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:17am

      So where in the prophets does it say he shall be called a nazarene like Matthew 2:23 says?

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    • Bakko Bomma
      Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:22am

      Temple complex is still the temple and making excuses for it like “he didnt mean that particular wall just the other three and the rest of the temple” is bogus.

      ABSOLUTELYNOT
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 10:14pm
      You do not understand scripture Bomma , he is using a parable of his own death and resurreection in 3 days Seek and you shall find. nice try though

      You’re funny. Everyone else in the thread just told you it means the actual temple as well. Hilarious when people that don‘t read it pontificate about who doesn’t understand it.

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  • Bearfoot
    Posted on November 24, 2011 at 8:39pm

    Re: The picture of the “coin”.
    Is that a real coin?
    I know the stampings on coins from that era are much better than that example.
    How did they decipher a date on a coin such as that example?

    Is that really a coin?

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  • Eliasim
    Posted on November 24, 2011 at 7:50pm

    “We three Kings of orient are bearing gifts we travel so far.” Because they saw the star in the East. What East, geographical East, or Mental or spiritual East? For the save your soul question, the answer is?

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  • Eliasim
    Posted on November 24, 2011 at 7:36pm

    And don’t forget, Herod ordered the slaughter of children two and under in Rachel. Kind of reminds me of the belief of some White House Czars.

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  • David
    Posted on November 24, 2011 at 6:35pm

    Yeah… I didn’t really get the point of this article other than a nice hisotry lesson, and an interesting find of an ugly looking coin from the time of King Agrippa II.

    Did anyone else notice the absense of a particular name, or even a faith, in this article? it’s not a huge deal or anything.

    It may be just me, but it seems as if years ago, it would be more common any time in discussing, well, the time period of Christ, to simply mention this, “the time of Christ.” of course, it’s so ironic that “B.C.“ and ”A.D.” have their meaning in centering on Jesus, before, and after, although, of course, now we believe the dates were off. I just thought it noteworthy, that’s all.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 7:32pm

      And it’s because of the coming of Christ that the temple was destroyed. Because Jesus said he would tear “This” temple down and rebuild it in three days. Of course he was talking about his soul. And he walked on many waters, that being the meek, and the righteous knew Jesus when they saw him coming across the waters. The temple was wrecked because that wasn’t the temple, but the mind is the temple.

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    • DagneyT
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 9:14pm

      No, Eliasim. Jesus is the Temple, and his body was resurrected in three days. It is what it is, and He is Who He is.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 9:38pm

      I don’t give a rats @ss about a wall, or whoever worked on it.
      It is totally Irrelevant to anything that is Important !!!!

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    • Greenwood
      Posted on November 25, 2011 at 2:28pm

      @DAGNEYT……..No, Eliasim ?…………..1 Corinthians 2: 16 Do you not know that you people are God’s temple, and that the spirit of God dwells in you ?

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    • Greenwood
      Posted on November 25, 2011 at 4:28pm

      @ELIASIM………..”And it’s because of the coming of Christ that the temple was destroyed.”

      Also because the chief priests said; “We have no king but Caesar” John 19: 15

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    • piper60
      Posted on November 26, 2011 at 11:14am

      Jesus iswoukd have a lively idea of what a major building project would require- the word usually translate as ‘carpenter was techies-a builder.

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  • garyM
    Posted on November 24, 2011 at 5:29pm

    While the Old Jewish Temple is an very important part of Jewish and Christian history and I would like to visit there but probably will never be able to, the Temple that we need to concentrate on now is Jesus. When Jesus said the Temple would be torn down and He would rebuild it again in three days, well when he arose from the grave that was prophecy as fulfilled!
    The Jewish religion required killing the perfect lamb for a sacrifice in the temple in the old Testament and that was a foreshadow of things to come. When John the Baptist saw Jesus from a distance and said, ” Look the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world, he was referring to Jesus!

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    • Greenwood
      Posted on November 25, 2011 at 2:37pm

      @GARY………….”the Temple that we need to concentrate on now is Jesus.”
      “the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world, he was referring to Jesus!”

      Is he the lamb or the temple? 1 Corinthians 2: 16, 17

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  • qpwillie
    Posted on November 24, 2011 at 4:32pm

    The construction may have been what Yahshua and the disciples were discussing in Matthew 24: 1-2.

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  • KingCanon
    Posted on November 24, 2011 at 4:14pm

    Seems the informal nitpicking is only critical when it’s Biblical. Everything else can be off by a century to a million years without controversy. Hmmmmmmmmm…

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    • ScienceIsNotEvil
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 4:40pm

      Funny science is just that picky when it comes to facts…

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 4:51pm

      @ science is not evil

      seems to me your too dense to get the other posters drift

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    • Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 10:58pm

      It‘s more likely that he’s not dense enough to get the idiotic drift.

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    • KingCanon
      Posted on November 25, 2011 at 7:37am

      Picky? I grew up loving science, you know the kid with the advanced chemistry set, constructive motion toys and amazing early electronics, however science today is wiser but weaker. Picky? No.
      Greedy and much of the time useless? Yes…

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  • Mandors
    Posted on November 24, 2011 at 3:58pm

    Herod was Rome’s puppet. Not surprising they finished the wall after his death.

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    • chips1
      Posted on November 24, 2011 at 4:39pm

      And Obama is Mohammad‘s puppet and he won’t finish our southern wall.

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  • lukerw
    Posted on November 24, 2011 at 3:30pm

    Same history… no significant change!

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