New Film: Jesus Wasn’t Divine & He Was Born After His Mother Was Raped by a Roman Soldier
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Last year, a Hollywood documentary wondered if Jesus Christ was a communist. This year, a totally separate film is slated to claim that the Son of Man was born after a Roman soldier raped his mother. The movie, which will be based on Paul Verhoeven’s controversial book, “Jesus of Nazareth,” is set to begin filming in the near future.
According to the blog Wizbang, Verhoeven’s 2008 book was filled with some controversial claims. Aside from dismissing Christ’s many Biblical miracles, it charged that Mary’s pregnancy was anything but immaculate and that it resulted from non-consensual sex with a Roman centurion. This, of course, would mean that Jesus wasn’t (and isn’t) the son of God, as stated in Christian tradition. The author also claims that Christ was never betrayed by Judas Iscariot.
“As for Verhoeven’s book, the adaptation will depict Jesus in a more human light, hence the reason the miracles and the resurrection are being stripped from the story,” IndieWire reported. “Instead, Jesus will be portrayed as an ethicist and a radical prophet, whose message became too politically strong for the Romans to idly accept and endure. While that version may not seem blasphemous to Verhoeven, it more than likely is for many.”

Paul Verhoeven (AP)
Here’s an official description of Verhoeven’s “Jesus of Nazareth” that has caused so much controversy:
Building on the work of the great Biblical scholars of the twentieth century—Rudolf Bultman, Raymond Brown, Jane Schabert and Robert Funk, founder of the Jesus Seminars, among others—filmmaker Paul Verhoeven disrobes the mythical Jesus to reveal a man who is, after all, startlingly familiar to us, a man who has much in common with other great political leaders throughout history, human beings who believed that change was coming in their lifetimes.
Gone is the Jesus of the miracles, gone the son of God, gone the weaver of arcane parables whose meanings are obscure. In their place Verhoeven gives us his vision of Jesus as a complete man, someone who was changed by events, the leader of a political movement, and, perhaps most importantly, someone who, in his speeches and sayings, introduced a new ethics in which enlightened behavior and the embrace of human contradictions transcend the mechanics of value and worth that had defined the material world before Jesus.
Coming to a deeper understanding of the historical Jesus has been a lifelong passion for Verhoeven, who for the last quarter-century has been among the very few nonacademics participating in the Jesus Seminars. Verhoeven assumed that one day he would make a film of the life of Jesus. Then he realized that it must be a book. Steeped in Biblical scholarship but free of the institutional biases, whether academic or religious, that so often dictate the terms of discussion of the historical Jesus, Jesus of Nazareth is a book that builds a bridge reaching all the way back to Jesus’s lifetime, all the way forward to the present, and from biblical scholars to lay readers whose interest might be personal or political.

Watch the director discuss his take on Christ’s crucifixion, below:
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“It’s not about miracles, it’s about a new set of ethics, an openness towards the world, which was anathema in a Roman-dominated world,” the author and director told Deadline’s Mike Fleming last year. “I believe he was crucified because they felt that politically, he was a dangerous person whose following was getting bigger and bigger.”
Verhoeven’s past films include “Showgirls” and “RoboCop.”
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pdw
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:35amOur thought process seems to run by the way we live and our life style. So we can understand why he cannot think any other way. Sad what the morals of this country has fallen to. He knows people love hate movies with sex and violence. More Jesse Jackson’s are learning how to make money by spreading hate for profit.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 12:00pmOur Lord certainly does NOT need our Defense, but pity this poor “Director” …gosh, I guess anyone can call themselves a Director nowadays. The person who posted that this guy directs gay flicks..I didn’t see a notation in article but HAVE no doubt . Good Grief!!! How’d you like to be this guy?
Report Post »Monday is looking better by comparison !! Forgive us Lord for we do NOT know what we do.
commonsensefreethinker1
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 12:44pmI’ts about time someone made a reasonable movie about the MAN they called jesus. Still won’t see it but glad it will be without all of the fairy tales and hope it will keep children from being brainwashed. That’s if their parents will let them go see it so they think for themselves and make their own judgment as to not just be the sheep that have to believe because they do.
Report Post »Kaoscontrol
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 12:48pmVerhoeven was raised by God fearing, Christian parents, but he strayed from the faith. Like so many running from God, he channels his fear of God and depravity into an attack to justify his own moral bankruptcy. Such a sad person.
Report Post »And good luck finding investors for your film, Verhoeven! Anti-God, anti-Jesus films almost always fail at the box office…People don’t want to waste there time and money to see this kind of crap.
lukerw
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 1:11pmAfter Christ… Christian Sects were established… where some believed that Christ was Conceived as Divine… some that He became Divine… and some that He was a Prophet, with the Holy Spirit, which made Him alike GOD. And, from this comes the Debate: What was the meaning of His death!
Any way… in opposition to these Sects, the story presented by Judaism was: Mary, Christ’s mother was Raped by a Roman, or Herod, Soldier.. and she was Impure!
Report Post »Hollywood
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 1:30pmHe just has a reprobate mind, as the Lord has given him up to Verhoevens’ god-satan. He, sadly,will reap the fruits of his completely idiotic statements. He quotes other so called Great biblical scholars, who like him, also had/have reprobate minds, giving up truth for a lie. I offer Paul this comment re Biblical veracity: ISRAEL. Its’ destruction in 70 A.D. was predicted, and it happened! It was also predicted the Jews would be regathered,once again, in the final days, to be a nation once again. Then, the destruction of its’ enemies, and the enemies of GOD wll come to the forefront. God’s WORD is foolishness to those who perish, and 90% of the worlds’ population is about to find this out,sadly!
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 1:40pmREMEMBER: After 325, Nicaea… where the Roman Emperor Constantine organized the Christian Sects… the only acceptable Theology became… Christ was Conceived as Divine. And, all other Sects were Exiled, alike the Copts!
Report Post »mils
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 2:22pmi don’t understand the whole thing…there are no records from back then…to prove anything..for or against…supposition at it’s best
Report Post »i want facts…facts!!!
NeoFan
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 2:22pmIf the left can recast Jesus Christ as a deviant then they would be allowed to worship him.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 2:40pm@PATTY It‘s you who don’t know what the hell you are talking about…. No one has seen a man walk on water in 2000 years… you believe that bs happened?
Report Post »black9897
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 3:38pmLast place anyone should get Biblical info is from an atheist.
Report Post »black9897
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 3:38pmRight….ok..someone needs to head to the padded room.
Report Post »Cesium
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 4:40pm@BLACK Pew Research Center “Atheists and agnostics, Jews and Mormons are among the highest-scoring groups on a new survey of religious knowledge” http://www.pewforum.org/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx
You want to go head to head with me? I’m an Atheist Jew just to warn you…
I’ll disarm you from this one first: “The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.”
Atheists more compassionate than religious: study
Report Post »http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-05-04/news/31560611_1_religious-people-atheists-show-generosity
Cesium
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 4:44pmI’ll tell you what you did with Atheists for about 1500 years. You outlawed them from the universities, or any teaching careers, besmirched their reputations, banned or burned their books or their writings of any kind, drove them into exile, humiliated them, seized their properties, arrested them for blasphemy. You dehumanized them with beatings and exquisite torture, gouged out their eyes, slit their tongues, stretched, crushed, or broke their limbs, tore off their breasts if they were a woman, crushed their scrotums of they were men, imprisoned them, stabbed them, disemboweled them, hung them, burnt them alive. And you have the nerve enough to complain to me that I laugh at you. –~ Dr. Madalyn Murray O’Hair
Report Post »discipleofyeshua
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 5:02pmIn response to LukeRW, all the early Christians…were Jewish. Early Jewish thought believed wholeheartly in a suffering Messiah who would preform miracles and die on behalf his people. It was only several hundred years later, when Christianity denied it‘s Jewishness and oppressed it’s root, that Jewish faith changed its qualification for Messiah.
Report Post »As to the whole idea that Mary was raped by a Roman officer? Ludicrous. In the small-town community culture of Galilee and Israel. There was absolutely no way a origin story like that could have been kept quiet- and not a chance in the world Jesus could have gained the political and religious prominence he did. Clearly another attempt by Hollywood to warp history for their own purposes.
BuzzardSays
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 7:21pmI am Jonah in regards to atheists or people who want to make a living on defaming Jesus. I know God is a forgiving and loving God showing kindness to those who don’t deserve it. I don’t need a whale to vomit me up so I simply say God break them and make them yours. That would be cool.
Athiests and blasphemers there is a day of righteous judgement coming. Repent because God does not want to destroy you and because I am in His debt I beg of you to reconsider. Or, that God puts such awful conditions before you life that you’ve no where to go but to Him.
Amen. P.S. Mormonism is not Christianity. Glenn you better know the difference because it matters.
Report Post »JGraham III
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:34pmHo hum…yet another warming over of the Pharisaic claim about the Lord Jesus Christ. This b.s. has been claimed for nearly 2000 years and for some reason it just doesn’t sem to be able to make the Lord go away. The Lord said “though one should rise from the dead, yet will they not believe”. Looks like this bozo is to be counted in that number. I predict his film will receive “wild acclaim ” for its ” stellar accuracy, superb acting, yadayadayada…” but it will fall financially faster than a millstone tied about this chump’s neck as he is cast into the sea.
Report Post »Simple-James
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:08pmThe bible was written for political interest, by Greeks, in Greek. (A language Jesus didn’t speak) You can thank Emperor Constantine for compiling the first publication of the Holy Bible. Need I remind you it was the first time a government used a religion to unite it’s people. Boy did it work.
Before any of you start your bashing and scripture quoting, I have a firm belief in god, just not in Christianity, and I hold nothing against Christians for their faith.
Report Post »MrBoneHead
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:25pmThe Road to HELL is WIDE……..after a taste of life in this MANS/SATANS world, I cannot understand how so many don’t want to go and live in HEAVEN. The Choice is YOURS people. A short life in this stupid world or forever in Heaven. I chose Heaven! See ya, Don’t want to be ya, all you atheists are dumber than dumb. I will however, pray for you all!
Report Post »pennswoods
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:45pm@Cesium
Shall we talk about what the state philosophy of the USSR and all other Communist governments, atheism, did to destroy human freedom in the last century after the Russian Revolution of 1917? The atheist Soviet state killed tens of millions of people who dared question atheistic Communism, it also persecuted religion and killed hundreds of thousands of priests, ministers, nuns, and even rabbis and mullahs and created a one party state where no opposing points of view of any kind were allowed to exist. The Atheist Communist governments in the USSR, China, Viet Nam, Cambodia, North Korea and others created vast networks of labor death camps where tens of millions died. The first Communist atheist death camps were in Stalin‘s Gulag years before Hiler’s holocaust of Jews. The Atheist Soviet Unio instigated fake famines in the Ukraine that killed at least 7 million in a forced famine in the early 1930′s. Atheist states banned and burned books, and allowed no freedom of speech. Atheist Communist states thought of people as mere atoms for the state to do with as it pleased with no civil rights. The list of atheist state abuse in the last century goes on and on. This all happened within the last 100 years by Marxist Communist systems that many liberals not long ago supported. Did you? Modern state atheism has it’s own bloody history. By the way,Madalyn Murray O’Hair was never a “Dr” of anykind. She did go to law school but never passed her bar exams.
Report Post »Amarath01
Posted on June 26, 2012 at 10:57amWhere or not mary never had sex before is debatable with accurate translation and depending on which source text you reference.
Report Post »But all maintain jesus himself was divine
wwolfwp
Posted on June 26, 2012 at 11:29amI do not pity the director…directors make a knowing choice in choosing which movies to direct and which not to. Deny Christ here and he will deny you in front of his father.
Report Post »Leader1776
Posted on June 26, 2012 at 12:43pm@CESIUM
Report Post »WOW! An atheist, a Jew, AND a graduate student. Who would dare go up against YOU? Triple threat! You do have posters shaking in their boots. How ’bout assigning more labels to yourself? I’m sure there are many here with suggestions.
Alessandre
Posted on June 26, 2012 at 4:28pm@commonsensefreethinker1: have you conducted any research on Jesus? have you read Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny the Younger, Phlegon, Lucian, Celsus, Suetonius and Thallus, as well as the Mara Bar-Serapion – all non-Christian historians who wrote about Christ? &, in addition to the evangelists & those who wrote the New Testament, have you read Linus, Iranaeus, Clement of Rome & the many, many other 1st century witnesses who left us written testimonies about Christ? we have more evidence about Jesus collected immediately after & w/i a few years of Christ’s death than any other figure in ancient history. we have more about Him than about many figures of more modern history. but you don‘t like the history they tell so you decide it’s “unreasonable.“ these ”great Biblical scholars” aren’t comfortable w/ the truth. they too decided everyone was lying, that no one got it right so they rewrote history w/o a shred of evidence to support them. Verhoeven took their work & wrote a book for the avg man (the “scholars” don’t appeal to most people, I’ve read them) & is now making a film to reach those who didn’t read his book but will see “important” films. you may decide you don’t believe them just as you may decide there was no moon landing. but to imagine that Verhoeven, who rejects the witnesses accounts (that support what the Church has taught for 20000 years), is making a “reasonable” movie is utterly unreasonable.
Report Post »Alessandre
Posted on June 26, 2012 at 4:52pm@Mils, there are facts! facts! read Scripture & the early Church Fathers. read Josephus, Tacitus & the other 1st century Roman historians. Christianity hasn’t been hidden, it’s out in the open for those who care to see it.
@LukeRW: Jesus divinity was taught by His disciples. some NT references (not in historical order but all 1st century): John 6:68-69 Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life; and we have believed, and have come to know, that you are the Holy One of God.” Acts 3:14-15 But you denied the Holy and Righteous One, and asked for a murderer to be granted to you, and killed the Author of life, whom God raised from the dead. Phil 2:5-7Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. Col 2:8-9See to it that no one makes a prey of you by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the universe, and not according to Christ. For in him the whole fulness of deity dwells bodily,
there are other sources. Christ’s divinity was made a dogma of the Church in 325 a.d. but only after it had been taught from the beginning. that’s a mistake many make about Catholic dogma thinking old, white men in Rome pass edicts. actually, they don’t proclaim dogma unless & until some part of the faith has been believed for a long, long time.
Report Post »Jack Lewis 99
Posted on June 27, 2012 at 1:54pmThe movie and book are just more recycled gibberish based on a century-old approach that violates every rule of textual analysis and interpretation. If the Bible weren’t its target, it would be laughed out of court.
Where this silly approach goes wrong is that it turns rules of evidence upside down. Outside of the wacky little world of biblical criticism, scholars assume that texts are conveying accurate information until proven otherwise. If a text speaks about people, places, and things, we give the writer the benefit of the doubt on the details until either he contradicts himself in a big way or something outside the text contradicts him and his words.
Nearly all of the Jesus Seminar material violates this common-sense approach to old texts.
That’s the way historians normally do their work.
Report Post »Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 1:46amYou are all delusional. Besides, even Forx News reported that atheists know more about religion than religious people do.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/09/28/dave-silverman-pew-survey-atheists-bible-preacher-god-islam-holy-american/
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:34amIt is blasphemous ..
Jesus spoke in parables ,so that those with “ears” could HEAR…
And its becoming painfully obvious …to SEE so many that cant.
Report Post »idjk
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:58amIt would be nice if after this low life got the “truth” about Jesus in the can (likely the trash can) that he would man up and make a film with the truth about Mohammed !
Report Post »poorrichard09
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:04amHe’s going to make a follow-up movie about mohammad, right?
Report Post »Ari Ben TZion
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:05amJust once I would like to see this type of film done about Mohammed.
Report Post »atechgeek
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:16amWhatever.
Report Post »Nasado
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:40amSo let me get this straight, he was able to show that Jesus was born out of rape how? It is funny that he can conclude that something that occured 2000 years ago, and has very little written about it other that what is contained in the Bible, was completely false. He is so intelligent that he was able to discover something about probably the most studied figure in human history that no one else has been able to prove over the course of close to 2000 years. Man, that must be amazing being as smart as he must be! (please note the sarcasm)
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:52amReportedly.. Paul Verhoeven is a member of the Jesus Seminar being the only member who does not have a degree in biblical studies. He graduated with a degree in mathematics and physics from the University of Leiden. Since he is not a professional biblical exegete, his membership in the Jesus Seminar has been cited as a sign that this group is less scholarly than it claims So I would assume that this guy is just in it for the money that he will make from the controversy..he really has no clue..
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:23amAmazing that this “rape-victim” Jesus singlehandedly changed the course of religion and world history and never so much as wrote a letter. Amazing that a Jew (Thomas) would call this “rape-victim“ Jesus ”my lord and my God”. (John 20:28). Amazing that the immediate followers of this “rape-victim” Jesus would ALL die horrible torture-filled deaths claiming that He was the resurrected Messiah and Son of God. Amazing that thousands would continue to die throught history making the identical claim.
These idiots have to completely disregard everything Jesus claimed about himself, and everything others claimed about him as well.
And yes, the cowards and children of Satan must ALWAYS be driven to attack Jesus Christ (and NOT Muhammed, Buddha, Krishna, etc.) because Jesus is the only man who backed up his claims with actions and spotless character.
Report Post »SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:28amThe detailed prophecies that were fulfilled by Jesus are amazing not to mention all of the Typology of Christ and His work of redemption literal on every page of the OT; I cannot fathom how people so quickly and easily dismiss Him as Messiah? Having said that I also know that many have had their minds blinded, their thinking twisted, and their eyes remain closed. What a cynical, faithless, cold-hearted, hateful people we have become as a nation. Greed, immorality, ruthlessness, and vanity are all increasing at very distrubing rates. Claiming to be wise we have become a nation of fools and the fruit is ripening on the tree as we speak. God will not be mocked, we will reap what we have and are sowing as a nation. As the foundations crumble, what are the righteous to do? Men need to lead their homes and invest in their children, the courageous need to stand up and speak out against evil. Just ask the German christians who were silent when Hitler rose to power what can come from passivity and silence. All evil needs to succeed is for good men to do nothing.
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:36am“Instead, Jesus will be portrayed as an ethicist and a radical prophet, whose message became too politically strong for the Romans to idly accept and endure. ”
It was not the Romans who could not accept Jesus, but the Jewish leadership who wanted him killed.
It was Cesar who “washed his hands” of the railroading.
I wonder why this man wants to spin a different scenario on the existing feelings at the time? Could it be to absolve the Jewish leadership of any blame?
My, my, my.How these flakes, oddballs and misfits just love to demonize Christ.
I wonder why they never want to demonize Mohammed?
Report Post »klohitman
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:51amCornelius Tacitus (55-120 AD), “the greatest historian” of ancient Rome:
“Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind. Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired. Nero offered his gardens for the spectacle, and was exhibiting a show in the circus, while he mingled with the people in the dress of a charioteer or stood aloft on a car. Hence, even for criminals who deserved extreme and exemplary punishment, there arose a feeling of compassion; for it was not, as it seemed, for the public good, but to glut one man’s cruelty, th
Report Post »SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:52amJust like Pilate thought he was trying Jesus and was in fact himself on trial so is this man.
Report Post »SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:54am@ Independent…..I wonder why they never want to demonize Mohammed?…….A house divided cannot stand. Both are the tools of the same enemy of Christ.
Report Post »Wolfgang the Gray
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 11:03amIn the end of times, does not the Devil blaspheme God?
This is so clear to me. They are trying to destroy God. Without God, there can be no inalienable rights, endowed by our creator. Then they can say rights are given by man, meaning they can be given or removed by government. Look at all the politicians on the left now saying that healthcare is a right, employment is a right, having your own home is a right. This not only shows what Obama has been striving for, it is also almost directly from the Communist Manifesto.
It is also interesting to note that nobody is making a movie to discredit Muhammad. No doubt because when Muslims are offended, they start chopping heads. The Bible says that Christians would be persecuted in the end times. I will die praising God to my last breath and no politician, terrorist, or thug shall sway me.
“We will never be defeated unless we give up on God”. – Ronald Reagan
Report Post »starman70
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 11:06amIn the Bible it says that in the end times scoffers will come, even denying the divinity of Christ. Folks, it appears that the end times are here.
Report Post »readyfornov
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 11:23amAgreed! It hurts my heart that people are so blind. Blasphemous! How can one write about Jesus when he does not KNOW HIM?
Report Post »anomnomnommm
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 11:33amOh he went to college? That explains his ignorance.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 1:44pmThis guy will answer to God for his misrepresentations! I don’t feel sorry for him, because he knows what he is doing. If he repents and informs us all of this, then sin no more friends.
Report Post »commonsensefreethinker1
Posted on June 27, 2012 at 2:12pm@ALESSANDRE
Report Post »Once again,..yaaawwn, just because it is written and you read the scripture word for word over and over again as if it is supposed to mean something like take it literally does not make it true. 20,000 years??? I thought you creationists thought the earth was only 10,000 years old?
Just more useless jibberjabber from the crazy jesus freaks. Wake up and smell the 21st century! Oh , and yes I do believe in the moon landing as it happened in my lifetime but your god and jesus had nothing to do with it. When they find heaven let me know LOL.
70S_KIDS_FIGHTING_SOCIALISM
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:32amHe makes homosexual movies so we know were his allegiance and bias is.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 4:26pmAs far as I know, he only made exactly one movie with a bisexual lead character, The Fourth Man. He also made Starship Troopers, but I don’t assume that his sympathies lie either with military dictatorships, or with giant bugs from outer space.
Report Post »rfycom
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:32amBoth sides are whacky.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:08amrfycom – Here is someone much more intelligent than you are and he sees the Divine in the creating of life and its complex design.
Http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=fKyljukBE70
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:17amAlexander Tsiaras: Conception to birth — visualized – YouTube
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=fKyljukBE70
HowardSternIsABigot
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:32amThese tales all sound interesting. Unfortuneately there is extremely little evidence of Christ as an actual person. They build these tales on very little knowledge, usually second or third hand a hundred years removed. I would welcome any actual archaeological finds that would really mean anything, anything but a felection of the authors biases.
Report Post »PPMStudios
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:07amActually, they have found ancient texts written by prominent Jews of the day, who wrote about the Man Jesus. They even spoke of the ‘miracles’ written in the New Testament. However, those prominent Jews also believed the miracles to be works of the devil…
So if the Jews acknowledged His existence, that’s good enough for me…
Report Post »ConservDadASD
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:13amUm… s’cuse me… have you heard of the name Josephus?
Report Post »GrayPanther
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:40amHow about the “Dead Sea Scrolls”? How about the church in Bethlehem you can enter and go down to the lower levels where the cave became the birth location of Jesus. You say fake and I say historical truth. Hopefully Jews and Christians alike will reject this movie and save their dollars for worthy films.
Report Post »klohitman
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:50amSince you seem to believe that there is no evidence for Christ I will provide some extra Bibical evidence. Cornelius Tacitus (55-120 AD), “the greatest historian” of ancient Rome:
“Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind. Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired. Nero offered his gardens for the spectacle, and was exhibiting a show in the circus, while he mingled with the people in the dress of a charioteer or stood aloft on a car. Hence, even for criminals who deserved extreme and exemplary punishment, there arose a f
Report Post »klohitman
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:53amFlavius Josephus (37-97 AD), court historian for Emperor Vespasian:
“At this time there was a wise man who was called Jesus. And his conduct was good and he was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. And those who had become his disciples did not abandon his discipleship. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion and that he was alive; accordingly, he was perhaps the messiah concerning whom the prophets have recounted wonders.” (Arabic translation)
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 12:07pmNow, I’m beginning to see the light! It worried me for years why the Bible says only 144,000 will make it to Heaven (with millions and millions on earth, it bothered me) but with all this hateful, nasty, made up stuff from the Anti-Christ people, I understand where this comes from. Oh ye of little faith, you know Jesus in your heart, or you know nothing. Just that simple.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 6:58pmLOL, then you do not know this…
Jesus Christ is in Roman history, Greek history, and I bet this one will be your favorite…he is in the Koran, and Arab history. The dead sea scrolls and of course the Bible, but you don’t believe so the last example you will throw out completely, as expected.
You are a soothsayer and have no education to say what you just did.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 7:56pmHuh? Who are you answering? If it’s me, you got it all wrong. Read what I said!
Report Post »You have to answering Howard Stern……….
Unix
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:21pmOh yeah, I was responding to the sternbigot guy…
Report Post »HowardSternIsABigot
Posted on June 26, 2012 at 7:04amyou people are a bunch of knuckleheads. Everything cited is just what I sdaid, references to Christ by second hand sources. I am aware of everything above. Where is the item used by Christ? Where is the definite connection? It doesnt exist. Idiots that think I dont believe in Christ, its faith stupid. I have faith..
Report Post »woodyl1011fl
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:29amNone of this garbage is new; as for these alleged scholars they are Satan’s servants and serve him with great enthusiasm; academia and the media work hand in hand in this effort. What we are witnessing is the rise of evil and the willful impudence of ungodliness in our society and culture. The arrogance of atheism and those who are part of it think of themselves as gods in their own right and create their own “ethical code”, read moral here. When in fact it only reveals the total depravity of mans mind, character and behavior. In joining Satan and promoting his deceptions and denying TRUTH in his long war against the Sovereign Holy Creator God, they seal their eternal destination.
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:21amS’okay. I know who will have the last word on this. Hint: it won’t be Verhoeven.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:20amarrogance of atheism is the perfect statement. this man believs himself brilliant while I pity him and his blinded hateful heart.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on June 26, 2012 at 12:35pmYep ! Gonna have to insulate yourself folks ! It’s coming – bury the Word in your ” heart.” Study the Word well to find yourself approved.
Report Post »DWilliams08
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:29amWas one of his sources ‘Life of Brian’?
Report Post »SomeGuyFromOhio
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:05amExactly what I was thinking.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:23amBlessed are the cheese makers…
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 12:16pmSo you prefer bronze age mystics?
Report Post »babylonvi
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 7:33pmAhhh, yes, the Romal Soldier‘s name was ’Bigus Dickus’, I presume?
Report Post »Eggcellent
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:52pm(Replying to Babylon VII) No, his name was Busheous Georgeous (also known as “Shrubius”). Don’t you remember, he’s to blame for EVERYTHING!!
Report Post »HKS
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:28amLooks to me like this guy had better hope there is no god as he appears to be getting close to meeting him. It might be tough to enplane his actions here.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:30amI hope Verhoeven makes a lot of money and really enjoys his few remaining years on Earth…because eternity is going to be a bitch for him.
Report Post »Dde13
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:50am@gonzo
Report Post »Right on!!! Some people believe that the holocost didn’t happen, we never went to the moon and our own country brought down the twin towers…
Magyar
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 11:20amGONZO has it correct!
Matt 24: 40…..Then there shall be two men in the field; one will be taken, and one will be left.
Eternal damnation is gonna be a b%tch for him…..and all those who blaspheme and deny the LORD Almight!
Report Post »65Mustang
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 11:45amYes, Gonzo and the others that replied to this original comment are right..there is a God and eternity is forever.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 11:50amBluntly stated and absolutely correct GONZO.
Report Post »Sharon Rose
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:27amI would imagine there is a nice warm place waiting for
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BreeZee
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:35amI’m not religious by any stretch of the amagination but until peoples of all faiths band together and stand up? they will be dismantled and destroyed by the gov’t and the athiest progressive left..
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:09amThere is only One Faith.
Report Post »tess q
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:26amhere we go again.are they trying to convince the public or themselves? Whacky!!
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:25am“Building on the work of the great Biblical scholars of the twentieth century…..” ha ha ha ha ha. Did you type this with a striaght face? Funny how “Bible scholars” never seem to believe the Bible. Apparently, being a scholar means you know squat and make stuff up!
This coming from the genius that brought us “Showgirls” and “Robocop”? Arguably the two worst movies ever created? Showgirls was so awful that it ruined any actiing cred the main star had from “Saved by the Bell”, now that’s saying something!
Oh no! The maker of RoboCop says the fact that I base my whole life on is wrong. I might have to rethink this whole christianity thing. After all, he did make RoboCop. ha ha ha ha…..
Report Post »momrules
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:55amSQUID……….Funny how “Bible scholars” never seem to believe the Bible.
True. I also notice that the many atheists who post here can throw out scripture like Lucifer but they have no understanding of the Bible either. Unlike Lucifer, who also can recite the Bible chapter and verse, they do not believe the Word of God. Lucifer on the other hand knows that God exists.
Report Post »SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:38amThe interting thing is that when people like this do things like this they actually help support the biblical doctrines that Jesus taught when he said the world hates him because he convicts them that what they do is evil. Also, that the carnal man cannot submit to God. Spirit gives birth to spirit. They actually unknowingly fulfill what is written just like Caiaphas did when he, an unbelieveing Pharisee, prophesied that a man would die for the people….God‘s foolishness is wiser than man’s wisdom…..
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 11:09amSQUIDVETOHIO — That you would call Robocop one of the worst movies of all time makes me question anything you have to say. Clearly, your tastes and judgment are lacking.
HOW DARE YOU SIR!
Report Post »Conservative-Atheist
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 12:21pmYea Robocop was a great movie….and he’s obviously right about jeebus.
Report Post »INTHEBROTHERHOOD
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 5:29pmmom….have you heard lucifer recite the bible chapt and verse? bible says he also believes…..just sayin…..ive crossed paths with many demons…so far none have quoted any scripture correctly.
Report Post »SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:12pm@ brotherhood……..in order for Satan (lucifer was his name before falling) to twist scripture and pervert it’s meaning to mislead humanity he must know exactly what it says. He did in fact quote it accurately to Jesus in the wilderness. He simply misapplied them by taking them out of their proper context. I think the point mom was trying to make is obvious to most objective readers.
Report Post »RedDirtTexas
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:25amSome people you just can’t reach! Their egos and so-called intellect will not allow them to accept Christ so they spend their entire lives trying to debunk Him. Go ahead Buddy. I‘m sure you’ll receive an Academy Award by your atheist pals in Tinsletown but is it worth your soul? Better do some thinking on it!
Report Post »churchdog
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:23amHey, Glenn- here is the first appendix to your book “Cowards”: Fim makers who make anti-Jesus movies. The Prince of Peace, is an easy target. His followers are mostly asleep, so they will probably only write tepid letters and boycott theaters. If they wanted to make something really controversial, they would make movies like this about Mohammed.
Report Post »Need to be FREE
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:21amThese people are trying themselves. It will be to late for them if they have to see proof. Lord forgive them.
Report Post »ShyMan
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:21amHow much you wanna bet he portrays either Jesus as gay or Mary as lesbian?
Oh, c’mon. How many times does an “open-minded” person get to make a movie about Jesus? And you don‘t think he’ll take full advantage of this opportunity?
Yep, straight to DVD or HBO.
Report Post »De-Elect
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:20amIf you can make people believe that what you are doing is in the name of intellectualism, they will follow you right off a cliff.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:21amor if you are acting within the dictates of ” social justice.“ Then you can steal and call it ” redistribution !” Yes, they will follow you right off that cliff !
Report Post »lgccac
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:20amHollywood … that’s all anyone needs to know.
Report Post »RRFlyer
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:18amQuite simple, if you don’t like the way Jesus is depicted in the Bible, just make up your own story. Anyone can do it. But why are we supposed to believe some nut job???
Report Post »Abel
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:10amI’m pretty sure Monty Python already did this film…
Report Post »contkmi
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:19amLOL Awesome. Simply awesome.
And the film was much funnier than this turd, I’m sure.
Report Post »De-Elect
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:26amStwike him, Centuwion. Stwike him vewy wuffly!
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:38amHeh heh heh….. Welease Wodger… :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik0cqxJElqA
Report Post »NewLife56
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:10amI’m sure this guy will get his chance in front of Christ to explain this as we all will have that chance. I know Christ has forgiven this guy already and loves him but I’m sure Jesus at times scratches his head in amazement at these things.
Report Post »skiz
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:01amChrist does not give forgivness unless it is asked for. This whole thing would be totally laughable if it was not so pathetic! Mr Verhoeven you WILL meet your maker and have to explain yourself, Better get ready! And that goes for all the other athiest cowards on the Blaze!
Report Post »AJ4USA
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 3:39pmPlease be careful Newlife. There is a hell. God has spoken on this subject many times and tells us what it is like. When you say that you know God has already forgiven him, you imply that everyone is forgiven. If your church is teaching this soft, everybody goes to heaven because God loves everybody theology, find another church fast.
Report Post »kryss187
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:09amwhile it could be plausible, there is as much evidence for this as with the bible. its he said she said.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:31amNo, it’s not remotely plausible. The premise that the Roman govt knew of or even cared who Jesus was until the week they crucified Him is ridiculous and based on nothing. They were not interested in the internal affairs of the jews. As long as they maintained order and taxes. This is PLENTY of historical evidence to substanciate the Bible. This has zero.
Report Post »tzion
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:08amWhile I as a Jew don’t believe Jesus was either the Messiah or divine, I don’t think this story is historical. Personally, I believe Jesus was handed over to the Romans by the Sadducees, a sect of Jews that rejected all oral traditions and embraced Roman traditions. Nearly all of the Priests serving in the Temple, including the Roman appointed High Priest, were Sadducees. The Temple was the main source of their authority and Jesus challenged that, which is why the Christian texts record the High Priest at Jesus’ trial. They had him executed in order to ensure their own authority wasn’t threatened.
Report Post »Charles
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:08amWhat a disgrace. Lord have mercy on us all. You will have people believe this crap.
Report Post »Romes944
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:42amYeah, some people will believe this garbage… gays, atheists, liberals… good company eh?
Report Post »JACKTHETOAD
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:06amRoboturd.
Report Post »SREGN
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 8:01amI fear there will be much eternal gnashing of teeth for Verhoeven et al.
Report Post »edmundburk
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 11:04pmInstead of condeming vanderhooven and the athiests who post here, we shoul pray for their conversion and repentance. and for all you unbelievers, i know you don’t know me, but you’ll have to take my word for it. i was very bitter at god, and when i came to him, he COMPLETLY changed my
Report Post »life! i mean a complete 180. all i know it was’nt me it was Jesus.
florida123
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 7:59amThis nit wit is an Expert Because……………………..He deemed himself one! This disease is rampart among those in the Gov’t and Academia………..
Report Post »Solexander
Posted on June 28, 2012 at 6:34pmThe only possible source I can think of for his notion is one I saw mentioned years ago from an old Jewish source (not even sure what) claiming Josh of Nazareth was the son on a Roman soldier named “Panther” & got himself some tiny bunch of disciples before being executed. As for the *rape* aspect, I can only guess that Verwhorin’s attitude is like that of the guy in _Blazing Saddles_ who explains, “I like rape.”
Meanwhile I don‘t think The Blaze helps JC’s cause with such corny art.
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