New Info: Slain American Tourist Was A Christian Missionary to Jews
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JERUSALEM (AP) — An American tourist killed in a forest outside Jerusalem had deep spiritual ties to Israel through her involvement with an evangelical ministry that promotes Christianity among Jews.
Kristine Luken, who was in her mid-40s, was stabbed to death Saturday while hiking with a friend. Israeli police had originally identified her as Christine Logan.
Luken was involved with the “Church’s Ministry among Jewish people,” first in the U.S., then in England, where she became a ministry staffer. The church is active in Israel.
On the CMJ American web site, Luken quoted inspirational poet Minnie Louise Haskins’ words, “Go into the darkness and put your hand into the Hand of God. That shall be to you better than light and safer than a known way.”
A 2007 study tour in Israel, “Walking with Jesus in his Jewish world,” brought Luken to the church, she wrote on the site.
She and Kaye Susan Wilson, a naturalized Israeli from the U.K., became friends on a study tour to Poland earlier this year, the Rev. David Pileggi of CMJ’s Christ Church in Jerusalem said Monday. Luken, an avid hiker, and Wilson, a professional tour guide, decided to go hiking together in Israel during Luken’s Christmas holiday, he said.
On Saturday, the two headed for the wooded hills. Wilson told Israeli reporters from her hospital bed Sunday that she and Luken were attacked by two Arab men with what looked like a bread knife.
She said she escaped to a nearby road after pretending to be dead. Luken’s body, hands bound and bearing multiple stab wounds, was discovered Sunday in the forest.
Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said authorities were treating the attack as politically motivated, while not ruling out that it could have been criminal.
The forest is inside Israel but close to the border with the West Bank and the Palestinian villages of Husan and Wadi Fukin.
No suspects have been taken into custody. There was no claim of responsibility, which suggests that the assault, even if politically motivated, was likely the work of individuals and not a militant group.
Don Stanley of the church’s head office in Israel said he would put out a statement on behalf of the Luken family later in the day. He said the family did not want Luken’s hometown disclosed.
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Comments (63)
JaneDo
Posted on December 21, 2010 at 6:05am“”Wilson told Israeli reporters from her hospital bed Sunday that she and Luken were attacked by two Arab men with what looked like a bread knife.”" ????? YEAH, sure……..and then………..she died. I am 99% positive that what she REALLY said was that they were JEWS —not arabs!
Report Post »Totally Domestic
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 10:34pmThese Arabs were practicing their religion in it’s purest form. They were doing exactly
Report Post »what Mohammad (Satan) commands them to do. Killing both A Christian and a Jew.
They must have the smile of Mohammad (Satan) on them.
Col. HawK
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 9:59pmI am a Christian, and if walking with my Jewish friend, I would give my life freely to save theirs. Be careful people of your words, for one day you will be held accountable. We can only speculate at this time what the motive was. I only pray, that the people who follow ‘Hate and Evil’, will come to see their wicked ways. I firmly believe that there are good Muslims( I worked with a Mujahadin MD, years ago, he does not believe the radical view side) that will see the light eventually and reject and over throw their erroneous fanatical leaders in time, because they are peaceful. Remember this, there are bad apples in every basket which eventually will be discarded. If they are all bad?, only then will the entire basket be discarded. I hope my old friend is doing what he can to stop, and teach the radicals of Islam, that they are only destroying themselves. There are radical verses in the Bible too, but we are smarter than that, and we have the gift of the new Testament.
Report Post »getalong
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 11:38pmWhere are these “good” Muslims, and why are they not speaking up! Very few have criticized the cowardly actions of Islamic terrorists.
Report Post »CrackerSmurf
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 5:20pmPeaceful Muslim? They all believe in the same thing. In the end whether acted upon or not. Sharia law is not just for the extremists. It’s sad they cannot advance past 2000 B.C. well if you discount their advancements in slaughtering devices. No guilt to them murder is redemption for them. Suicidal murder is met with 42 virgins and a mansion in the after life. We really do need to put them in their place. They think they can just topple civilizations and put monuments of their greatness up where they think they have victory.
Report Post »sdparker
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 4:49pmAs sad as it is, why do Americans go hiking around in other countries as if they own the place? They must seem arrogant in the eyes of others. Americans are not appreciated in most countries, it would be wise for Americans to keep that in mind when they travel.
Report Post »SilentReader
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 4:08pmI just hope they find out who did it. These people cannot be allowed to continue their murder with impunity. They must face the consequences.
May Kristine Luken rest in peace. My condolences go to her family and friends.
Report Post »EnlightenedinGA
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 4:07pmStay home.
Report Post »srharrison
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 12:56pmTo Libertyluvnmomma: it is not the responsibility of Christians to “convert” Jews – or anyone else for that matter. “Conversion” is the work of the Holy Spirit as He reveals our sinfulness and need for salvation by Jesus Christ. This fundamental misunderstanding of man’s role in the salvation process has done much harm to the Gospel message. Our responsibility as followers of Christ is to speak the truth about Jesus Christ in love to the people that God puts in our lives and to be a living example of God’s love and grace. Only God can change a man’s heart.
Report Post »YoungAndReckless
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 3:54pmLet’s say, for arguments sake, that Muslims did get their dream world and everyone, everywhere, followed Islam. Does anyone believe for one second that this would end the culture of violence propagated by Islam? Of course not, there would just be in-fighting. Shiites would kill Sunnis, Sunnis would kill Shiites, one Mosque or method of worship would not be kosher (no pun intended) with the other group, and the cycle of violence would continue. I‘m not saying that Christians and Jews don’t fight each other, because it does and has happened. But the violence committed by other religions is not in the epidemic numbers associated with followers of Islam, it is not ingrained in our children from birth, and other religions most certainly do not find it acceptable to strap grenades to our innocents in the name of some false and disgusting ideaology (jihad).
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on December 22, 2010 at 12:28amOh, calm down.
Report Post »You just needed a platform.
J.C. McGlynn
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 12:51pmThe Religion Wars have begun in earnest.
Report Post »bigdaddybernie
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 12:46pmPROSELTISING in ISRAEL is unlawful…………the ISRAEL ZEALOTS probably killed her !
Report Post »Tal-El
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 12:56pmIt is illegal to actively try to convert Jews to Christianity in Israel, but I guarantee you, as an Israeli, that no Israeli Jew feels strongly enough about this to kill anyone. Jews are quite secure about their own religious identity in their own land.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 9:28amWhy doesn’t this news surprise me?
Report Post »Bless her heart, her reward will be great!!
I feel for her family, but I’m happy for her because of where she is now. Happy forever more!!
wash1776
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 9:17amThis should not surprise anyone. That is most likely the reason she was so brutally murdered. NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE THESE VICIOUS PEOPLE!! They are raised from birth to believe that only they and there sick, violent religion and laws should exist on earth. We can wail and complain all we want, but this will continue to go on. I am not putting anyone down that is complaining. I complain too. I just realize nothing will change them. We just have to keep on guard and fight back every chance we get. Do whatever we can to mitigate the problem. I just don’t think it will go away until JESUS COMES TO TAKE BACK THE EARTH!!
Report Post »Olygal
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 9:14amIt’s a horrible and tragic thing that this young woman was killed here in Israel. My condolences to her family.
I only wish she and her friend had not been on the “mission” to convert the Jews to Christianity. We have many wonderful Christian friends who stand with Israel, unflinchingly, in the face of all the difficulties here. They don’t try to change us, they are our friends. We don’t need people trying to undermine our own Jewish faith by trying to convince (young) Jews to become Christians. It’s really out of place and offensive. You’ve got your faith, we’ve got ours — do I try to missionarize others to become Jews? There’s a lot of other work to be done in this world to bring about better times and to make better human beings, but actively working to convert the Jews really is an offense to God’s children.
Report Post »Rage Rockets
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 9:30amIt is insulting to Jews for a Christian to try and convert them. I agree with you.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 10:08amI understand your viewpoint, but please understand ours. Jesus came as a Jew; he preached to the Jew first, and he instructed his followers to do the same. Jews who accept Jesus are not giving up their Jewish faith. They see him as the promised Messiah. If you believed Messiah had come, would you not share him with other Jews?
People do not choose where they are born, but they should be able to choose their religion or lack thereof, as long as those beliefs do not violate fundamental human rights. Christians aren’t even allowed to openly proselytize in Israel, so those who do convert to Christianity are doing it out of their own free will, much the same way people in America convert to Judaism. Let them be, Olygal. Christians rejoiced when Israel became a nation, and we pray for the peace of Jerusalem. :)
Report Post »timber wolf
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 11:27pmIt is called The Great Commission, “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” ~ Matthew 28:19-20
The message is offensive and that is why Jesus said Christians would be hated because the hated Him first. How many times was the apostle Paul whipped, beaten, and pounded for preaching the Gospel?
Kristine Luken was doing what all Christians are commanded to do, share the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The message may be offensive, it is done in kindness with open dialogue and communication, and not by force or to cause harm to anyone.
Report Post »ronmorgen
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 8:52amI have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day.
2 Timothy 4:7-8
I read about Christian martyrs every day now. Makes me think the time is very short.
Report Post »Ms Archivist
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 8:50amNot to be indelicate, but does “stabbed” really mean “something else”? You know what I mean without me saying it….
Report Post »Tal-El
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 1:01pmNo. This was widely reported in the Israeli media, who are not shy about reporting things as they are. Stabbed is stabbed. They hate Jews and Christians. It is a much under-reported fact (because it is politically incorrect in this country) that the places where Christianity was born, i.e. Nazareth, Beth Lehem, and Jerusalem are being emptied out of Christians because of relentless persecution by Muslims. This also has economic reasons because Christian Arabs are on the average much wealthier than Muslim Arabs as they tend to work harder and be better educated. By forcing them to leave Muslims are taking over properties that have been in Christian hands for centuries.
Report Post »truth4at
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 8:15amRest in the Peace of Christ my sister and fellow missionary to the Jewish people. I pray some one takes her place as a missionary to the people who are the apple of God’s eye.
Report Post »Hondaman
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 8:12amJust another example of people trying to take Christ out of everything. Yes, it is a very sad situation, but they are no different than judges, city officials, school officials trying to take Christ out of Christmas and everything else. You know what? God WILL have the last word and it won’t be pleasant.
Report Post »Rob
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 8:04amWe should close down our borders, use the military to clean house here… get rid of anti-American Muslims, gang members, illegals, and clean out the prisons. Then if there are any MORONS that want to leave the then safety of America and travel to another country and get in trouble… then they are ON THEIR OWN!
But as long as anti-Ameicans are running our damn country, good luck fixing anything.
Report Post »retsofarik
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 8:11amAdd your comments
Report Post »retsofarik
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 8:12amAgree Rob good point!
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 10:09amThat would require people in office to have the courage to do it. So far they are all so busy trying to decide who’s boot to lick next, so they can get the voting block of that community, they won’t stand on any principles. How could dingey Harry have won in Nevada if he hadn’t romanced the Mexican vote with the dream act? Our politicians are have far too much self intrest to do what is best for the country.
Report Post »numbers
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 8:02amGod rest Miss Luken’s soul. I hope Israel will work diligently to solve this case. I have a feeling we haven’t heard the whole story yet.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 7:47amI find it odd that they stabbed Wilson only once, but Luken, the Christian woman was stabbed multiple times. Israelies are saying this was a random act of terror, but I disagree. I think it is very likely that these men knew who Luken was and targeted her.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 7:47amWhat a terrible act of evil to fall upon this peace loving innocent couple!
Report Post »May swift retribution be brought to these Muslim Barbarians!
And the traitors in our government want to throw the Israelis under the bus to support these kinds of people!
GiGi80
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 7:41am“Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said authorities were treating the attack as politically motivated, while not ruling out that it could have been criminal.” Err . . . It seems pretty likely that this murder was “criminal.”
Report Post »Tony
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 10:21amAmazing isn‘t it how one’s “politics” now over ride everything else, even the brutal murder of a peaceful woman wanting only good for others. Possibly this “blindness” explains why it is “ok” for tens of thousands of missiles to be fired into Israeli civilian areas hoping a few will kill randomly. The Islamists are true believers in “the end justifies the means”. So are some in Ameriica.
Here in America, the Progressives’ media and at least one political party have decided it is “justified” in destroying our economy and the reputations of future opponents by repeating over and over lies and misleading statements if done in the name of their agenda. And once they committed to the road of “the end justifies the means”, tactics deployed in the forest of Israel are but a short distance away.
Report Post »GeauxAlready
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 7:40amNew Info: Slain American Tourist Was A Christian Missionary to Jews
Is it really news that an American was somewhere in the world trying to do some good? And is it really news that some Jihad Ali somewhere in the world wants to kill them?
Report Post »guyperram
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 7:40amMuslim males, just exercising their right to cleanse the world of anyone that disagrees with them. We really do need a constitutional amendment banning this religion from America.
Report Post »Flagwaver
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 8:51amActually, Islam is a peaceful religion, it is the extremists that muck it up for the rest. As for the amendment, it is called the First… The government cannot ban any religion. How long after “banning” Islam do you think Christianity would last before the Progressives ban it too?
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 8:57amAgree, but Islam is NOT a “religion”, it is a POLITICAL ideology that bans all real dissent AND CONDONES MURDER of innocent civilians in the name of POLITICS. ‘They’ point to the West’s ‘moral decay’, but ‘they’ enslave more than half of their own citizens by denying women many, and sometimes most basic rights. Better moral decay than outright slavery and oppression.
While we at it, we should probably ban communism and socialism, as they both always lead to fascism.
Fortunately, we have the first amendment to the Constitution which permits free speech and freedom of religion. I’m not quite ready to give those up just yet and thus not yet willing to take those things from others.
“You can’t hold a man down without staying down with him.”
Report Post »~ Booker T. Washington
Pslam 144 verse 1
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 10:26amMy prayers go out to the family of Mrs. Luken. Being a Missionary is very difficult work, and this happens sometimes when you preach the Gospel to non-believers, at least Christians don‘t go around slicing the heads off of people that won’t convert, we just pray harder for you.
We almost did it in the 1100’s. It’s almost time to start the 10th Crusades, or have they already started it for us? Time to finish it for them, and “hit the reset button” once again on these vicious religious zealots! Then we can have some relative peace for another 900 hundred years or so…maybe.
Report Post »JESUS-IS-LORD
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 11:16amReligion is man made which is a human failing.
Jeremiah 29:13 –
And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart (God speaking).
Amen.
Report Post »thecid100
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 11:20amIslam is not a peaceful religion. Mohammad said that his followers must kill those who do not believe as they do, whether they want to or not. Their religion was founded on violence. Their entire centuries old history is violence against the West. They see the world divided into two parts – that which has already been conquered by Islam, and that which has yet to be conquered. They believe it is acceptable to lie to the infidel, and that’s in the Koran. Wake up America!
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 12:58pmWhy are we all jumping to conclusions?
Do we know yet, for certain, that the murderers are Muslim?
Speaking Arabic does not make you a Muslim; a sizeable minority of Arabs in Israel and the West Bank are Christian.
Report Post »BeckIsNuts
Posted on December 21, 2010 at 7:47amFlagwaver, Islam is a religion of whatever its adherents want to interpret it to be. Unfortunately for the rest of us, a number of its believers use it as an excuse to inflict a lot of misery, pain, torture and the most vile sort of suffering on the a lot of innocent, undeserving people. Please don’t make me vomit by calling Islam a religion of peace. Like most religions, it’s a free pass used by ignorant primates to inflict mind control, misery and suffering on the rest of us.
Taquoshi
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 7:37amMay God speed the healing of Ms. Wilson and comfort the family of Ms. Luken.
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 9:02amThe only way to solve the problem of Islam is to wipe its followers from the Earth. They cannot be reasoned with….they cannot be bargained with….and it is impossible for them to live in peace. Time to send all of them to Hell, with their perverted, child raping prophet Muhammed.
Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 9:37amWhile this is a horrible story. I would like to point out that her ministry is what Christians in America need to be doing.
Report Post »The Apostle Paul charges us Gentiles with the job of converting Jews- Read Romans.
Christian Conservatives- Do you have Jews in your church? Like Gideon, Are your churches like clay pots pouring out the Holy Spirit. If not, you’ll meet on Sunday following the rapture.
Even awake conservative Christians here in America are extraordinarily ignorant and complacent to God’s laws and feasts. If you are the Bride of Christ we should all understand what exactly will happen when that trumpet sounds. For some reason we need self esteem sermons and disregard most of God’s laws- birth control..anyone? we make too many excuses to stay comfortable.
BeckIsNuts
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 11:46amAnd once again, the heavens stand by and watch, their arms folded. The fundamentalists must be rather perplexed by this one; the Jew lives and the Christian dies. By the same logic people use when they thank God for some good fortune, why no blame for this horrific tragedy? Or is God simply sending a message to the Christians to leave the Jews alone? It certainly makes one stop and think in any event.
TheWilderness
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 12:23pmI agree with TXPilot.
Report Post »Tal-El
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 12:57pmBeing a pilot myself, I completely agree with TXPILOT. Being Jewish, I have to say that I find the idea of converting us to anything quite repugnant. To my Christian friends I’d say this: Jesus was a Jew from a town not far from where my parents lived and I grew up. It is undoubtedly God’s plan that His people, the Jews, remain here on this Earth till the end of days…
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 1:16pm@TXPilot
Why are assuming they are Muslims? It happened in Israel (a Jewish state) where many Jews, Muslims, and Christians live. Just because they are Arab does not mean they are Muslims!
@Libertyluvnmomma
Sometimes God commands too much of us. Why do you believe your commandment to convert non believers towards Jesus is anymore real than a Muslim’s conviction to convert non believers towards Muhammad? Or a Jew’s conviction to stay Jewish?
For some reason everyone on this site gets offended when they described the job of a Muslim to convert others towards Islam, yet no one bats an eye when a Christian talks about converting others towards Christianity.
And don’t tell me because Muslims kill people in the name of Allah because I can pull up dozens of times when Abortion Clinics were hit in the name of Jesus Christ.
Report Post »gotea
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 3:50pm@VoteBushIn12
If you think for 1 minute these 2 arab men were not Muslims you are either stupid or naive, and the day I see a Christian homicide bomb a family gathering, I will say they are equal. Muslims are an evil people that have lost the peace in their hearts from the time of Abraham. Why the birthplace of “civilization” remains so barbaric can be directly attributed to the “religion” of peace.
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 9:26pmTal El
Report Post »Not only was Jesus a Jew, He died on unleavened bread and rose for First fruits. Maybe I misspoke using the word “convert”.
Jesus is all so the one of the pieces 3 matzhoh bread that is broken and rewrapped during Passover. He was pierce, striped and broken. Why is there 3 pieces of bread?
Then your kids head out the door to see if Elijah is coming. It was all shadows of things to come. And come they did.
Jesus is the the Bread of life. Isn’t that what Bethlehem means? And yet your parents home is just out of earshot, Yes? He who has ears will hear.
VoteBushIn12
Posted on December 20, 2010 at 10:15pm@gotea
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2006/9/19/3328/99097
Attempted suicide car bombing? Sounds pretty similar…
Christian terrorism on individual family gatherings? How about Westboro Baptist Church with their picketing and slandering of fallen soldier funerals.
You can pretend this doesn’t happen and if all you watch is Fox News you might be able to keep that lie going, but all it takes is a two second Google search and one minute of fact checking to determine how blind you are. Every religion has its fanatics, I just ask you try to avoid lumping the over 1.1 billion Muslims into the same group as the extremists – if not for my sake than for your own intellectual credibility.
Report Post »Modawg734Blue
Posted on December 21, 2010 at 12:09am@BeckisNuts,
Report Post »Seriously, that isn’t even funny. You think you are so intelligent don’t you. What is the matter with you. You self righteous little pompus, (male donkey). In case you are ignorant of the facts, or just ignorant, a woman was brutally murdered. Your smug little holier than thou attitude is totally inappropriate. I can’t believe, I thaught you might be intelligent. Now I see you are nothing more than ….. forget it you are a waste of time. Do you have that low of self a image. WTF
AGunAndAPrayer
Posted on December 21, 2010 at 12:49amBeckisnuts, while the circumstances of this womans death are regretable,and it is always sad when someone dies, she is with the Lord now. We should mourn her passing but we should also celebrate, because she is going to recieve her just reward. Death is only the doorway to glory, for Christians. I always find it far more sad when a none believer dies. How a person dies is irrelevent, it’s where they go after that matters. If someone killed me and I was allowed to come back and speak to them, I would thank them. I would also fight with every inch of my being before that, for life is no idle thing, I would make them earn my death, but I would still thank them if they were able to kill me, because thats when eternity begins, a good thing for a Christian. By the way, condolences and prayers to the family.
Report Post »BeckIsNuts
Posted on December 21, 2010 at 7:26amMowdawg, what makes you think I was joking about this tragic affair? The purpose of this forum is for people to share their individual opinions and unique perspectives in order to stimulate thoughtful discussion. It is not a church where free thought is restricted, in spite of the apparent wishes of many of the fundamenatlists here. I have read more racist, ignorant, violent comments here than I ever have on any other forums I’ve visited, but I make an effort to reign in my scorn and disgust as much as possible and try instead to shine some light here. You have somehow missed the point I was making, which is a pity.
Report Post »BeckIsNuts
Posted on December 21, 2010 at 7:40amAGunAndAPrayer, you say she is with the Lord now? Is that the same Lord that stood by and watched that poor woman get stabbed multiple times until she suffocated on her own blood while her terrified friend listened? I’m not buying it. If you find comfort in believing fantastical tales written by long dead primitive people be my guest. As a logically oriented believer in the scientific method and a free thinker, I’m not buying your brand of religion. No offense intended of course.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on December 21, 2010 at 10:10amBeckIsNuts
Report Post »Do you have any idea how ignorant you are on Christianity? We all do.
BeckIsNuts
Posted on December 21, 2010 at 12:13pmThen go ahead Gonzo. Share your understanding of Christianity with us all. The ball is in your court.
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