New Iowa Poll Has Gingrich Leading Over Paul Then Romney in 3-Way Race
- Posted on December 3, 2011 at 9:29pm by
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A new poll released by the Des Moines Register Saturday has former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich taking a palpable lead in support from Iowa Republican caucusgoers, followed by Texas Rep. Ron Paul and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney in a three-candidate race. With Iowa kicking off voting in the presidential nominating process just a month away on January 3, Gingrich has support from 25 percent of likely Republican caucusgoers in the Hawkeye state. Paul has risen to second with 18 percent and Romeny slipped to third with 16 percent. Undecided came in fourth place with 11 percent.
Selzer & Co. of Des Moines conducted the poll of 401 likely Republican caucusgoers between November 27 and 30. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.9 percentage points. The poll was conducted before Georgia businessman Herman Cain suspended his candidacy on Saturday. Cain amassed 8 percent, tied with Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann. The same Iowa poll conducted between October 23 and 26 had Cain at 23 percent support and Gingrich at only 7.
POLITICO notes that Gingrich’s new found support has him further ahead of Romney than anyone has been in Iowa all year. Pollster J. Ann Selzer tells the Register that the results show Gingrich’s ascendancy has the potential to grow. Forty-three percent of likely caucusgoers picked Gingrich as their first or second choice, and 60 percent are still willing to change their mind.
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HumbleCitizen
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:23pmBrief Overview of Congressman Paul’s Record:
He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.
He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.
More can be found at http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ron_Paul
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:25pmPeople wont go to the link. They are afraid of the truth.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:39pmtzion — Israel can blast the heck out of Iran’s nuke site, but haven’t done it. Why? You think maybe THEY have reservations of starting WWIII? I think so — Israel is divided on what to do (just like America is divided).
Dr. Paul thinks we can do a lot with nuclear submarines and letters of marque and that our recent presidents didn’t know how to use the weapons at their disposal.
Even if you don’t agree 100% with Ron Paul’s foreign policy, a Paul presidency would be dictated heavily by the congress (as the constitution says it should). So if the congress thinks there is an imminent threat, Dr. Paul would be obliged to respond.
Dr. Paul speaking of America’s safety
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATmUE8TCmjE
Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:41pmSo basically you are saying that you are okay with giving up liberty for national security. Are we watching the same video? Paul was brilliant. If u can watch that same video and not like ron paul its so clear why so many people bash him. I am so glad i never threw my lot in with conservatives, well thats not fair because no one of you paul haters is a conservative. NEVER GIVE UP YOUR LIBERTY FOR SECURITY.
Report Post »Clinger_Bible
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:42pmI think everyone did better than Ron Paul, here is the whole Huckabee forum, with all of the candidates: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/dec/gop_huckabee_forum.html
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:42pmoh and i love when u goto this link that he gave us, this message is posted there :
RESULT OF PROJECT FLIP-FLOP:
Report Post »Research shows Romney is not a flip-flopper like the media has told us. Our research and panels have come up with the decision that Romney is a politician, who has had some different opinions, giving soft answers but much like his competitor has a strong core of beliefs that the left, starting with Ted Kennedy, have tried to smear since 1994. Please read and comment.
Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:47pmClinger are you sure you watched the video you posted? Because how can you watch that and not want to vote for ron paul, can you give me 1 concrete example from that video where ron paul flubbed?
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:47pmClinger Bible….I watched it…Paul 2012
Report Post »Clinger_Bible
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:38amI mean compared to the rest of the candidates. Ron Paul is a little too extreme in some aspects, and spot on in others. Even if he got the primary vote, there is no way he would get the general and then Obama would be back in office.
Sorry couldn’t vote for him.
And about the ‘Project Flip Flop’ message above the videos, that was attached to the video. Either way, their ‘project’ shows full clips of the videos people take clips from, of Romney talking, and it shows how much the left and some on the right are so blatantly dishonest to take him way out of context. Much like that immigration clip Gingrich was sending around and saying Romney wanted Amnesty. Those that take any one out of context so blatantly need to apologize to their God for such obvious misrepresentations of a person. That ‘project’ has the full quotes and articles where people try to twist his words. Looking into his past you really see how conservative Romney really is.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:38amOverall Paul has a good voting record but he is hardly the Saint that some would have you believe
Report Post »Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime.
Voted NO on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research
Voted NO on barring transporting minors to get an abortion.
Against ID for immigrants; it leads to national ID card. (Dec 2007)
Voted NO on Constitutionally defining marriage as one-man-one-woman. (Jul 2006)
Voted NO on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Sep 2004)
Voted NO on letting shareholders vote on executive compensation. (Jul 2009)
Voted NO on allowing stockholder voting on executive compensation. (Apr 2007)
Constitution even protects terrorists, not just citizens. (Apr 2011)
Opposes death penalty at state and federal level. (Jan 2008)
Voted NO on military border patrols to battle drugs & terrorism. (Sep 2001)
Voted NO on allowing vouchers in DC schools. (Aug 1998)
Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids. (Apr 2003)
Put 65 projects into 2006 bills, worth $4B to his district. (Dec 2007)
Voted NO on requiring lobbyist disclosure of bundled donations. (May 2007)
Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits about obesity against food providers. (Oct 2005)
Voted NO on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005)
Voted NO on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003)
Earmarks, 400 million (2011)
ronnie8365
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:43amHere’s some truth for the Paul fans…. Now who won’t go to the website for some truth?
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar/15/nation/na-ticket15
Report Post »Br@dley
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 1:07amyou do know he votes against those earmarked bills right?
of course not, you’re another fake conservative who believes whatever fake conservative news wants you to. just like a good little moron. what’s the term, useful idiot right?
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 1:26amBR@DLEY yeah….he was for it before he was a against it
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbca34MS8LI
recoveringneocon
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 1:38amAfter watching this video nobody with ½ a brain or ¼ of a heart could even fathom voting for that nutcase Ron Paul. His comments in it are so ignorant that he makes a little girl cry. Shame on you Paul and your pot smoking Paulists
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLuqIWwTYK4
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Modawg734Blue
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 1:48amThe more I hear about Ron Paul, the more I like him. The truth is all the other candidates, Scare the he@# out of me. Romney is Obama lite. Gingrich reminds me of Barney Frank. Cain turned out to be a Clinton clone. ….. Help us ObeyRon, Your our only hope.
Report Post »YoungBloodNews
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 2:12am@CLINGER
Your a hack, you really think Dr Paul too extreme. What this TOTALITARIAN government is doing to us is EXTREME. Yeah google the big word and learn something. I detest people like you and will offer you no help when our system collapses by design (read ZeroHeadge MOFO to get a real picture of world problems) – Oh wait, you probably dont like to read…
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 2:48amWhy in the heII does the headline leave out Ron Paul?
Report Post »marion
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 3:01amRon Paul would have my vote if he wasn’t such an isolationist.
Can you imagine a world without our influence? How many bully countries and organizations out there would have the rest of the world destroyed within four years? I do like the idea of getting out of the UN, it is a wasted organization, I think we could do more good on our own, but the world would go to hell in a handbasket if we weren’t out there, like it or not, and if we did, guess how much hatred would be towards us?
No, that 10% Ron is out to lunch disqualifies him in my book, sorry, good man otherwise.
Report Post »skiziks20453
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 3:16amhe is a doddering old fool.
Report Post »DrWho
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 3:26amNewt will crash next in the polls and Beck still wont back Ron Paul. I just don’t get it.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 3:35amMarion, Please watch this clip. It shows just how outragious Pauls foreign policy is.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=351761#ooid=VtMWZ2MjoZHMco4i8lZolGtHwphRu_Xt
Report Post »AZindependent
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 4:05amBlaze headline should read: Newt 1, Ron 2, Mitt 3 in Iowa
RP’s solutions are so bold that he would NEVER get them approved by the current whores of DC. I support and will vote for RP, but I think that the guy who can take five or six vacations a year including 17 days in Hawaii for Christmas stay in the hot seat. Newt is about the same as Obama, big gov. solutions to all problems. We are going to have worldwide economic collapse, and then an escalation of WW3 (which has already started, but hasn’t been named yet). Why make a great patriot like Ron Paul take the fall for the mess made by decades of bad political and banking policy? God bless him for running, but let one of the political hacks take the fall for what awaits us.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 4:55amI used to think Ron Paul was a nutcase. Until I started really listening to what he said, while UNPLUGGED FROM THE MATRIX created by the PROGRESSIVE REPUBLICAN RINOS.
If you will just listen, he makes more sense than anyone, but YOU get hung up that he wants to let Iran have a nuke and he wants to legalize drugs…BULLCRAP! He wants to return to the CONSTITUTION. Just listen you fools!
If we would return to the Constitution we would not be in the welfare state, we would not have the war on drugs and we would not be the International police force. Thinks that have bankrupted our nation!
Wake up fools!!
Report Post »flaflyboy
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 4:56amI like Paul as well, but his foreign policy views are , to say the least, naive. …Just one man’s opinion. There’s a reality in dealing with Iran , putting your head in the sand won’t get it done. I like most everything else.
Report Post »Kevin The Elder
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 5:16amLet me preface this to say that I’m not a Ron Paul supporter … yet. I’ve be evaluating like most everyone else. In my case, I think I agree close to 100% with Dr. Paul on issues not related to foreign involvement. I suspect that a good percent of GOP voters either feel the same or at least agree with him 75% of the time or more. In fact, I think the majority of us favor him over the other candidates in this regard. So it comes down to his foreign policy. Right now, I’m torn. In my heart, I feel he’s right in wanting us to completely pull in our horns; the nagging thorn keeps prodding, ‘What if he’s wrong?’ Hopefully, prayer will guide me.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 5:34amFiscally Ron Paul is a genius as well in constitutional matters but when it comes foreign policy and boarder policy he’s as liberal as Obama. When it comes to sovereign military defense, he is down right dangerous
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 6:00am@RepubliCorp It would be nice to provide the source of your information. Here is the whole picture:
http://www.issues2000.org/Ron_Paul.htm
Now, may you please post all the Bills he wrote or voted Yeah to that infringed on the right of gun owners, restricted free speech, prohibited religious expression, diminished private property rights, limited personal liberty, created welfare programs, advanced Progressive policies, personally profited from them, were unconstitutional, or unnecessarily expanded the Powers of the federal Government?
We both know that there are none. Newt on the other hand…
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 6:01am@Ronnie8365 That was a great article. Thanks! Paul said,
“The principle of the earmark is our responsibility. We’re supposed to — it’s like a — a tax credit. And I vote for all tax credits, no matter how silly they might seem. If I can give you any of your money back, I vote for it. So if I can give my district any money back, I encourage that. But because the budget is out of control, I haven’t voted for an appropriation in years — if ever…
I don’t think the federal government should be doing it. But if they’re going to allot the money, I have a responsibility to represent my people. If they say, Hey, look, put in a highway for the district, I put it in…
I put in all their requests, because I’m their representative…
The whole idea that you vote against an earmark, you don’t save a penny. That just goes to the administration and they get to allocate the funds…
If you don’t earmark something, then somebody else spends it and there’s no transparency.”
I‘d rather that money go to good Americans than to Obama’s administration!
Report Post »charleyrocks
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 6:29amI would not trust gingrich, anyone who tells his wife in the hospital with cancer that he wants a divorce is a moron and has no feelings. Is this what you want for a president? he can’t relate to his wife and has poor timing and is insensitive, how do you think he will be with the american people. Be smarter this time .
Report Post »Thomas Paine
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 6:33amBrief Overview of Congressman Paul
Ron Paul never returned the campaign contributions he got from
CAIR, Ku Klux Klan: Knights Party, National Socialist Party of America, America Nazi party, Aryan Brotherhood, 911 truthers.
Ron Paul never rejected the endorsements of
Report Post »CAIR, Ku Klux Klan: Knights Party, National Socialist Party of America, America Nazi party, Aryan Brotherhood, 911 truthers.
Thomas Paine
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 6:43amOWS is a socialists movement, Ron Paul supports OWS
A quote from Ron Paul
“I’m very much involved with the 99. I’ve been condemning the 1%…the people on Wall street got the bailouts and you guys got stuck with the bill and I think that’s where the problem is.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtlIBsq9EHA
Report Post »Miami
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 6:47amcharleyrocks
It seems you are following the MSM’s playbook on how to destroy a conservative voice. Just the same way they’ve destroyed every conservative since Sen Joseph.McCarthy. You know the one they called crazy for saying there were communist in Hollywood, Unions and so on…
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 6:51am@Thomas Paine Good! Less votes and money for Obama! To win in a general election we must take votes away from the other side. We cannot win with only Conservative votes. The way I see it, the more votes the better. We do have free and open elections, and private voting rights, here in America. A citizen of this Nation can vote for whomever he wants, and no candidate can make him vote otherwise. We live in a diverse Nation, politically, economically, religiously, and socially, and to expect a Candidate to monitor, censor, and prohibit voters is ridiculous. Paul respects everyone’s right, and I respect that. He holds no prejudice, bias, haughtiness, or self righteousness over any person. He politically is against Big Brother watching over the private lives of others, and I‘m sure personally he’s no different.
Who do you think those folk voted for in 2008? I’ll give you a hint, it wasn’t the black guy. And last I recall, McCain didn’t renounce or returned anything to that effect.
Pulling the reverse-race card out a bit early, huh?
Heck, if Paul can get the OWS crowd and any other Obama supporter, and convince them to support limited Government, Constitutional principles, secure borders, sound monetary policies, end of welfare programs, protection of gun rights, repeal of the national income tax, private property rights, free religious expression in public, balanced budgets, getting out of the UN, and ending birthright citizenship, that would be even better!
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 6:59am@Thomas Paine I’m against the corporate Government bail outs too! I don’t want the federal Government intervening in the free markets. There is no such thing as a company too big too fail. Corporate welfare is as bad, if not more worse, than social welfare. This inflates our currency and creates an unstable economy. Why? Because the federal Government has to print out more money and borrow more money to bail them out!
I’m also against Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac, AIG, G&E, and any other corporation that lobby‘s our elected Representatives to put their company’s interest above the American people! I also don’t want Bank of America to invest in bonds from European Banks and come crying to the Federal Reserve to insure their risks and burden the American people with the risks and losses!
I’m pretty sure all Conservatives would agree. Do you think maybe that is what Paul was talking about?
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:02am@Miami Concerning Paul’s border position:
“If elected President, Paul will work to implement the following common sense reforms:
* Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.
* No Amnesty – The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.
* Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.
* End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.
* Protect Lawful Immigrants – As President, Ron Paul will encourage legal immigration by streamlining the entry process without rewarding lawbreakers.
As long as our borders remain wide open, the security and safety of the American people are at stake.”
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/
Report Post »Miami
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:16amcolt1860
Paul is also on the same page as Obama on how to deal with Iran, Northg Korea, Cuba and Venezuela. Lets play patty cake with those who wish to destroy the US. Let them all have Nukes… Israel has them why not them…?
This theory is reason enough to not vote for him
Report Post »Miami
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:22amLets not forget his stand on drugs which is to the left of Europe or California. Heroin, Cocaine they should all be legal… Are you nuts…?’
Report Post »Miami
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:27amAs for the boarder I believe you got that wrong. I remember Ron Paul saying that a boarder fence could be used to keep us in. He was not for securing the boarder
Report Post »Philo Beddoe
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:47amAnd he brings the most pork back to his state.
Great politician
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:53am@Miami North Korea has nukes. Should we go blast the living daylights out of them? Iran is allied with Syria, China, Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, and any other radical or communist Nation. Starting WW3 is not exactly in our Nation’s best interest right now. If we have to defend ourselves some day, I’d rather we not be the aggressors and initiators of such a large scale war. My concern right now, in considering our own situation, is our mounting debt and ever expanding federal Government (not to be confused with some assumed position of being against defensive war). We certainly have the right and power, as a free and independent Nation, to act if our intent be righteous and in defense. Any action we take as a Nation must be through Constitutional means. We have the greatest Military and most prosperous Nation in the whole history of Mankind. I have confidence in our Nation. We can and will defeat our enemies. My main objective right now is to restore America and to reclaim our Constitutional Republic.
The US Constitution delegates no Power to the federal Government to regulate or deal with drugs, food, or even agriculture. These are State issues, and should be dealt with by the elected Representatives therein. Heck, not even California was able to legalize marijuana in a popular constitutional vote. How have our drug laws been working today? As to the fence, his analogy was referring to businesses going to foreign nations with jobs and capital.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:59amThe Case for Gingrich by Bruce Walker
Report Post »There are many problems that conservatives should have with President Gingrich. His personal life has been speckled with adultery. He has flip-flopped on global warming. His firm has profited, though modestly, from the housing debacle (although there is no hint of wrongdoing on his part.) Gingrich sounds very wonky for a conservative who wants to lead a revolution: conservatism is not, in essence, detailed. Basic principles, nearly all of which devolve choice to the individual or the state government, are clear, few and brief.
Nevertheless, there is a compelling case for Gingrich as the Republican nominee. He is both glib and brilliant. In this respect Gingrich resembles much more the parliamentary pugilist Winston Churchill, who also had very heavy baggage, than Ronald Reagan, who gave “The Speech” ten thousand times. Like Churchill, who mastered much more than just politics, Gingrich is an historian, a fiction writer and a dozen other things.
He will not be stumped by the media…
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/42907
colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:00am@Miami Concerning drugs. Only Congress can make Laws for our Nation, and Powers not conferred to the federal Government by the US Constitution remain with the States, or the People. Unless our President becomes a dictator and makes laws himself, these are moot arguments and irrelevant.
Then, there’s the fact to consider, that there exists two classifications of the same plant; industrial hemp and “marijuana”. The two are used for different purposes. You cannot get high on industrial hemp. Heck, even our own Government advocated the use of industrial hemp:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne9UF-pFhJY
@Philo Beddoe The way I see it. That money just stays at the federal level with no oversight. Obama and his administration would have endless amounts of money to use without us American folks knowing what for and how much. I think keeping our tax money away from Obama is a good thing.
Report Post »watashbuddyfriend
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:01amYoung Patriot, I called your hand! I went there, did a limited view, and saved the file for further viewing. Thanks HUMBLECITIZEN.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:11am@miami Our solution is not more Government and the Nanny State. Our society and culture are in decline, while drugs and all sorts of bad things are prohibited and illegal. How is our current policies helping or decreasing our society’s present immorality? The answer to our problems is getting rid of all these ‘we know whats best for you’ progressive laws. We need God back in our lives, not Government in our lives. A religious revival and a fear of God is the answer, not more bureaucratic legislating. Our ills in society have been caused by a departure from God in our private and public lives, and disobeying his perfect Word. We must choose to good and act upon a virtuous character of self dependence, self reliance, and individual responsibility. If you want to really seek solutions, I suggest to every patriotic Christian to pick up a bible and go to their local church or neighborhood meetings ground and preach on. The lack of religion and godliness in our lives should not be an excuse and justification for the Government to pick up our slack.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:21amPeople are going to let the media select their candidate again. Probably Romneycare, maybe Gnewt- whomever it is, trust it to be the wrong person for the country. Then he‘s going to lose to the Turd and we’ll become a turd world nation overnight.
Report Post »Susie
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:21amSorry, HUMBLECITIZEN, but on last nights Huckabee, Ron Paul did not come off well at all. ONCE AGAIN, his national defense explanation was totally bogus and in fact dangerous. Someone should explain to Ron that when any entity highjacks commercial airliners and starts using them as bombs – AND BOMBING YOUR COUNTRY – RON – you have had war declared against you – WETHER IN YOUR AIR-HEADED WORLD, YOU WISH TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT – RON.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:22am@Stuck_in_CA I certainly agree, Gingrich is a great debater. I don’t think we should dismiss his political record so easily though.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:27amPeople aren’t afraid of Ron Paul….they’re afraid of the Ron Paul Zombiebots. Are you going to vote for Newt if he gets the nomination or throw your vote away, thus voting in Obama for 4 more years? Are you going to eat crow and say I’ll vote for whoever gets the nomination, even though my guy didn’t? Or are you going to switch to a third party and split the vote between 3 thus giving Obama the win? You’re just too rabid and scare people away. I’d vote for Ron if he gets the nomination, but because of you, he’s not my first choice.
Report Post »davidstep
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:40amAnother piece of Ron Paul history you forgot.
Report Post »Ron Paul, as a matter of practice, will slip pork into a popular bill that he knows will get passed, then vote against it. Then he will publicly say he voted against it and all the pork in it. I call him a hypocrite.
AzDebi
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:42amI like Ron Paul…in fact, compared to the rest of them (Except Rick Santorum), I LOVE HIM…BUT…HE IS UNELECTABLE! PERIOD! He will NEVER NEVER EVER get elected…so, keep promoting him and you may as well just skip the election and hand BO the keys for another four years!
Report Post »Miami
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:47amcolt1860
North Korea has a Nuke the size of a trailer truck, they’re still years away from having a deliverable weapon. Standing by and waiting for someone who has vowed to kill us over and over again to finish building the weapon that can make that happen is INSANE!
You’re right, the Congress write the laws but the President sets the Agenda. You might recall Obama Care, tax policies on Tobacco, Sodas or even his Energy policy and the monetary policy. That have tripled the cost of fuel, doubled the cost of food and clothing.
It‘s not about a Nanny State but Common Sense which is not so Common just take the OWS crowd for example in a matter of months they’ve reverted to the lowest common denominator with rapes, murders, drug abuse, theft even would be cannibals
I agree with you as to the need for God’s hand and influence
Report Post »robgc1
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:06amIt’s his foreign policy that scares people
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:16amI have my concerns in Paul’s foreign policies as well. However, I know this for a fact, all the other candidates will continue the same foreign policy we’ve had for these past 30 years. Which has been molded by a very liberal Government and progressive Court system. In choosing my preferred candidate, I have read the Constitution and examined which Candidate’s record best aligns itself with the Law of the Land and the intent of our founding fathers. I have come down to Paul and Bachmann. Our Nations current mounting debt and ever expanding federal Government has me concerned the most. As I’ve said before, I have faith in our Military. We can and will defeat our enemies. I have never doubted our troops, even with Obummer in office. I fear for my country’s destruction from within. I don’t fear any enemy of ours. There is an inevitable global economic collapse that will hit us very hard, and I do not want another Big Government Republican in Office when that happens. I do know this for sure, we better elect a TEA Party majority Congress come this election. We’re on the same side here. Let’s not forget that.
Report Post »patriot4evah
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:30amAll of that is true.. Absolutely..His is consistent and has lived as an exemplary citizen of the United States, he has no baggage waiting to be released. He loses me on foreign policy, he is consistent there too, unfortunately.
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:43amI really like most of Ron Pauls opinions, but his views on foreign policy are naive at best and horribly dangerous at worst. His statements that basically if we are friendly to Iran they will be friendly with us, are insane, and will get us all killed.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:46amIt’s like Dr. Paul has said, the people who call him extreme can’t handle freedom. They are so used to big government and socialist policies. It is a shame that so many people live in a bubble away from reality. I love to hear these people talk about our foreign policy as if we aren’t already $15.1 Trillion in debt and running multi Trillion dollar deficits every year. That‘s right let’s elect some moron who will keep our global welfare/warfare empire going with borrowed money from Communist China, that‘s so smart isn’t it. And people call Dr. Paul extreme for living in reality.
Report Post »Southernsoul
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:49amDon’t get me wrong, I would love to see a Libertarian become President, but Ron Paul also plays the game of waiting to see how legislation is going and then votes against it when he knows it doesn’t really matter. As much as I hate to take ‘Baby-steps’ all the way, we need to move slowly towards a Libertarian political philosophy, not jump into the middle of it. From hard core Socialism to hard core Libertarianism, Obama to Paul, could you imagine the chaos?
Report Post »TheWholeTruth
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:50amCLINGER_BIBLE and anyone else who doesn‘t like Paul’s foreign policy. Number one) It’s CONSTITUTIONAL! Read it for once in your life. You can’t have it both ways. You are either FOR Constitutional government, or you aren’t. There’s NO middle of the road, pick and choose what you like and what you don’t. 2) Ever hear of a little country called Switzerland? Seems they never get attacked. They have no standing army to speak of. Wonder why. Hmmm could it be because they are ‘non-interventionist?‘ Isn’t that what Dr. Paul is saying? Want peace and security in this country? Try it sometime!
Report Post »TheWholeTruth
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:04amMIAMI
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:22am
Lets not forget his stand on drugs which is to the left of Europe or California. Heroin, Cocaine they should all be legal… Are you nuts…?’
What part of “It’s up to the STATES to decide” don’t you understand? SHOW ME in the Constitution where it gives the Fed’s the power to pass laws on such things. Each State (yes CAPITAL S, look at the Constitution for once) is a sovereign entity unto itself. They are given the power to pass such laws, NOT the Feds. That‘s all he’s saying. Plus, you cannot legislate morality. People who do drugs are going to do them regardless of the legality situation. As it stands, we have the largest prison population in the world. Can you guess what the vast majority are in for? Rape? Murder? Theft? No, DRUG POSSESSION.
Liberty is defined as being able to do whatever you want as long as it does not interfere with someone else’s. If you wanted to do drugs, you are not harming anyone but yourself. Much like drinking alcohol. IF while doing so you DO harm someone else, then, that’s a totally different story, just like alcohol. Tell me the difference? They tried to ban alcohol, remember? It did the same thing that the ‘drug wars’ are doing. They finally had to give it up. Now, it’s up to the States, even down to the city to decide if they want to ban it or not. And THAT my friend, is the way it SHOULD BE.. Constitutionally speaking.
Report Post »marvel
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:05am@Clinger_Bible,
I’m not seeing what you are seeing either. I thought Ron Paul was right on message, and consistent as he has always been. Was there something specific you thought he said that turned you off?
Don’t get me wrong, I’m currently a Romney supporter, but I still try to be fair to the others. I think Paul is trustworthy, as far as protecting our liberties and following the Constitution goes. I could vote for Paul.
Marvel
Report Post »koyettsu
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:16amBrief explanation of how annoying Ron Paul cultists are and how they can’t help themselves in spamming every forum in existence.
Report Post »DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:21amAll of you “conservatives” that complain about Paul’s foreign policy are completely, brain-dead idiots. Your are also hypocrites –especially Beck. You sit around complaining about a government nanny-state, social (in)justice and government spending/debt. In the next breathe, you sheep, starting claiming you support Israel by having the government BORROW money from China to GIVE to Israel! The interest on that dumb*** loan will be paid on your children‘s backs by printing money which reduces your dollar’s “value” which is a TAX!
Are you seriously as stupid as the left says you are? Apparently. Do you need Beck or the government to tell you to whom you should give your money? Are you too stupid to stuff an envelope with funds and send it yourself? If you supported Israel wouldn’t you want them to have MORE money instead of wasting it on interest and devaluation?!?
I am a Jew and I don‘t want America’s political/oil interests in Israel. There is only one factor as to why Iran is not scared ****less of Israel; America. Without us, Israel would be free to handle Iran. Israel’s enemies(“pallestine”) would not be receiving TEN TIMES more monetary help than Israel under Paul.
Lastly, it is unconstitutional! If you want to waste money legally, amend the constitution! You are WORSE than the left. At least they admit they hate the constitution and Israel. Wake up sheep!
Report Post »wesinLR
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:21amI have heard and read what Ron Paul stands for..I will not support him.. I will not support newt, nor mitt either… if forced with any of these three i will not vote…I will never hold my nose to give another bush my vote. Or any lesser of two evil votes either… and as far as Ron Paul.. i think he is insane so he will never get a vote from me.. if left with a choice i say let the evil we have now stay . If America wants to be like greece then so be it i guess. i will be here to help rebuild a free nation again when it all fails.
Report Post »NeptunusRex
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:31amU.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) was one of only four House Republicans to break rank from the party and request earmarks despite a Republican Conference earmark moratorium. Paul sent 41 earmark requests totaling $157,093,544 for the 2011 Fiscal Year. His largest single request was $19,500,000 for a naval training ship at the Texas Maritime Academy in Galveston, followed by a $18,126,000 to provide maintenance on the Matagorda Ship Channel.
For Fiscal Year 2010, Paul requested 54 total earmarks, adding up to $398,460,640 in pork that the former presidential candidate sought to bring home to his district. These requests were made prior to the House Republican Conference’s voluntary ban on filing earmarks
Report Post »wesinLR
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:32amI agree the RP supporters make it hard to want to join their ranks.. tell me what freedom do you think we would have had after ww2 had your man been in charge during that war? lol Had he been our pres we now would be speaking German. going for Rp is like climbing the wrong mountain and then deciding to jump off the cliff over just walking back down.. sorry guys not the guy we need right now..
Report Post »stewartist
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:35amPaul has some great views on how to save this country, but his foreign policies will weaken this country!
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:43amThe other day my suspicions regarding the sabatuers in Washington D.C. was confirmed.
I had come to the conclusion it was 5-10%.
After the HDAA bill #1867 vote in the senate thursday, my figues were confirmed.
7% voted NAY to pass the Unconstitutional bill.
93% of ALL D.C. are corrupt to the core, and need to go.
Newt is one of them that have been a part of the problem is whole pathetic Political” career.
Another global elite minion posing as a representative of the people has been exposed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWKTOCP45zY
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:43amLove the Blaze Headline Iowa Poll Newt #1 – Romney #3 Blaze.. Ya skipped over #2 and the REAL frontrunner anyway.. Ron Paul.. Your bias is disgusting Blaze..
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:48am*93% of ALL D.C. politicians are corrupt. Democratic or Republican, it makes no difference.
Report Post »David
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:55amI heard Paul has put “pork” in bills for his own district, then voted against the bill, knowing it will PASS, but also getting the PORK he put in it! So, he gets the “credit” for voting against the bill, but gets the “pork” he put in the bill for his own district. Please… don’t give me this Paul is this “holier than thou” congressman.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:59amTheWholeTruth
I agree there might be some in prison for tic tac drug possessions but when it comes to dealers and traffickers what would you recommend? let them rule the streets? Whether it is legal or not there will still be a black market for drugs. Legalizing alcohol did not do away with moon shiners.
Murder, rape and theft are national crimes, crossing a state boarder does not save a felon, right? So how would you manage a state by state law on drug trafficking? Crimes can not be written on a state by state basis, it just does not work just as it does not work for other crimes.
Murder is a moral act, unless you believe killing in self defense, is murder. Not all killing is murder and what separates the killing and murder is morality. Take the Islamist, to them killing innocents is acceptable to their morality. To the common man it murder…
The same can be said for rape.
And as for theft, it too is a moral act, if one has no morals or scruples there is no difference in taking what is not yours.
As the founding fathers said our Constitution only works with a moral public, this is why the progressives have worked to corrupt the masses. Tearing the masses away from faith, constantly attacking Judeo Christian beliefs. Attacking the family structure, telling the kids that they know more than their parents. That their parents are racist, they must change their history their customs as Woodrow Wilson said the prepuce of college is to make children differe
Report Post »db321
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:08amIt looks like this article got high jacked by Ron Paul Supporters – Look, we are in serious times – We need real solutions – Ron Paul is not the answer – Swinging the pendulum from one radical to another is not the solution.
Would some one just legalize Pot so we can shut these Ron Paul Supporters up and move on to choosing a candidate to save America.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:15am(continued )
different from their parents. Moving public opinion and changing opinion bias gradually with each generation perverting our history with each stroke.
Report Post »leftisneverright
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:15amLet’s be honest, Paul is so dead wrong on foreign policy, that it is scary. I don’t like a man that blames the US for the attacks on 9/11 and would allow Iran go unabated in it quest for nuclear weapons. By the way, America needs someone at the helm that shows strength during these times. Sorry, all you Paulbots, but a feeble old man doesn’t cut it!!!!!
Report Post »kungfutzu
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:19amBrief addition to Paul record: He doesn‘t recognize people can be freakin’ insane and not act in what he thinks is their “best interest” which includes world leaders. — I‘d be great with him if he could state that he realizes MAD won’t work with Iran.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:20amDTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
Really…..
Please….!
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:31am@Clinger_Bible – Love the fact you are so open minded and willing to look at the truth. You and those like you will be the reason this country decends into the fires of hell, as your candidates want to ruin the morality of this country through BIG GOVERNMENT CONTROL. Fighting tyranny is Gods work – Ron Paul is the only candiate that believes that our freedoms and liberties from from GOD
Report Post »Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:35am@clinger
What did you see in that video that was soooo horrible that you would NEVER support him. I thought it was great!!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:37amRe: drugs, porn, prostitution
Report Post »The Republican National Committee pulled a dirty trick on Paul. According to the Times, Paul was running for Congress against fellow Republican Greg Laughlin, whom he eventually defeated in a runoff. During the campaign, an Austin marketing company called people and asked respondents who favored Paul if they would still support him knowing that he was in favor of legalizing drugs, pornography and prostitution. The real truth, the Times noted, was this: “Dr. Paul said he only favored repeal of Federal laws on drugs, pornography and prostitution, leaving states to prohibit them.”
colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:40am@NeptunusRex,@David That would be $398,460,640 going to Obama and his administration, and we wouldn’t know what for and how much.
@wesinLR During WW2, was there a constitutional Declaration of War passed by the US Congress? During WW2, did we actually face a potential threat or actual attack from a foreign Nation? During WW2, was there an actual threat or possible breach to our National Security? During WW2, did we fight a third world Nation, or a highly civilized, technologically advanced, and militarily developed Nation? During WW2, did we have an ally in actual danger and risk of being defeated? During WW2, did our allies ask for help and aid in fighting against their enemies? During WW2, did we go to war, fight the enemy, win the war, and return home? During or after WW2, did we engage in nation building? Was WW2 preventable? Was WW2 a regional conflict or unavoidable worldwide conflict? Was WW2 fought over ideology and religion, or abusive Government and mass centralization of Power? During WW2, were we as a Nation and People respected and admired throughout the World because of our trade, friendship and Christian charity?
@Miami Making laws won‘t change a Nation’s morality. Laws can only reflect a Nation’s morality.
@db321 I for one am not a pot smoker. I’ve never drank alcohol or smoked. These are the primaries. I’m glad people are enthusiastic, some more than others, but it’s America.
@leftisneverright http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXvHPkRHBvk
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:41amI am SO against the antiPatriot act and the current bill Rand Paul is fighting, which is the antiPatriot act on steroids…………..here’s a good reason to be against “suspending our civil liberties”…….
“One of the most traumatic events in German history occurred soon after Hitler took office. On February 27, 1933, in what easily could be termed the 9/11 terrorist attack of that time, German terrorists fire-bombed the German parliament building. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Adolf Hitler, one of the strongest political leaders in history, would declare war on terrorism and ask the German parliament (the Reichstag) to give him temporary emergency powers to fight the terrorists. Passionately claiming that such powers were necessary to protect the freedom and well-being of the German people, Hitler persuaded the German legislators to give him the emergency powers he needed to confront the terrorist crisis. What became known as the Enabling Act allowed Hitler to suspend civil liberties “temporarily,” that is, until the crisis had passed. Not surprisingly, however, the threat of terrorism never subsided and Hitler’s “temporary” emergency powers, which were periodically renewed by the Reichstag, were still in effect when he took his own life some 12 years later.”
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DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:43am@miami
Report Post »Wow, what a well thought-out and articulated argument. Thanks for proving my point.
amagaux
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:44amBut he is not electable.
Report Post »republic2011
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:46amYes, and for his dedication to the Constitution and its values, the globalists do this to him…
Report Post »http://www.infowars.com/republican-jewish-coalition-bars-ron-paul-from-debate-hes-misguided-and-extreme/
YoungBloodNews
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:50amYou put whos at 1 and 3 but dont mention 2nd place Paul in the big main page pic title.
BLAZErs, do you get your orders from Shill Ed of HotAir who did the same thing? (I can respect you allowing anyone to join and comment though where Ed limits his commentators because hes a hack).
SHILLS GONNA SHILL
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:52amWhy the Church should embrace small government
Report Post »drugs, gays, terrorists, etc.
http://eli-bruton.blogspot.com/2011/12/why-church-should-embrace-small.html
wfkuhn
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:53amHe also supports unrestrained marijuana use. This has been proven to be the gateway drug that leads to further addiction. We know my wife and I were coordinators for Tough Love for a year in the 80s and every, repeat every child we saw who became addicted started by using marijuana. Not a good position.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:57amRecent poll:
In matchups against the top GOP candidates, only Paul ties Obama, with each candidate at 42 percent.
Obama 42%, Paul 42%
Report Post »Obama leads Gingrich (47 percent to 37 percent),
Obama leads Bachmann (54 percent to 31 percent),
Obama leads Romney (46 percent to 39 percent)
Obama leads Perry (48 percent to 37 percent)….
Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:00pmDr. Paul does NOT support drug use:
Why the Church should embrace small government
Report Post »http://eli-bruton.blogspot.com/2011/12/why-church-should-embrace-small.html
colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:13pm@wfkuhn You do realize that practically all these natural herbs were legal during the founding of this Nation? Did you know that some of these herbs were even grown by our founding father, and a few states even mandated their citizens to grow hemp? And that our founding fathers used hemp for health, oil, paper, rope, cloth, fiber, etc? And that pilgrims sails were made of hemp? That our Declaration of Independence is made of hemp? And this use never led the founding father through some gateway or anything else? Do you know that the founding fathers would sometimes accuse one another of using some drug, but that they would not criminalize each other? All of our drug laws, just like our gun laws, are modern and progressive in nature. They haven‘t work and won’t work. That is why the founding fathers created a small Government and expected the people to be personally responsible for their own safety and health. That is why our Constitution was made for a religious and holy people, and it is inadequate for any other. Trying to fix our religious and moral problems through more laws just makes our Government bigger. That isn’t working now. Like I’ve said before, start preaching to change the hearts and minds of our youth, and start disciplining your children. Stop putting blame on the lack of Government. We already have enough.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:17pmDTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
Your argument opens with anyone who disagrees with me “are completely, brain-dead idiots. Your are also hypocrites”
Bottom line, you and Ron Paul’s foreign policy are a joke and not worth an honest answer…!
Report Post »nobummer12
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:17pmPaul has my vote.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:18pm@wfkuhn Do you know what alcohol leads to once a person is addicted to it? I think we tried prohibiting that once. I think it didn’t work. I’m defending the Constitution here and the intent of our founding fathers.
Report Post »sermaus
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:27pmYou need to realize, that Ron Paul does not have the traction and support to be president, he has only be a distraction in the process
Report Post »Miami
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:32pmcolt1860
Making laws won‘t change a Nation’s morality. Laws can only reflect a Nation’s morality.
Are you saying we should change our laws to the acceptance of the changing masses?
for examples:
In south Florida there’s a large amount of Cubans and an acceptable practice of Sanatoria with the sacrificing of animals or **** fighting. Should it be legalized?
In other factions of the country there are areas where dog fighting is a common act, should it be legalized if a state votes to allow it?
Polygamy, if a state votes to approve it…. marring a minor or even child molesting. I can go on and on but I hope you see my point.
A great number of our laws are written on a moral bias
Report Post »Miami
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:36pmBottom line….
If Ron Paul goes a third party route would you vote for him? Or try to fire Obama…
Report Post »leftisneverright
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:39pm@colt1860
9/11 – it doesn’t matter what our policies are – there is only one thing that caused us to be attacked. To them we are infidels. They want to kill us no matter what. That’s it. We are not muslims. So whatever policy is in place, it doesn’t matter. I don’t want an aplogizer, we already have that. I want a president that’s going to make our enemies rue the day they even thought about attacking us.
Iran – The use of diplomats (diplomacy) has not and will not work with Iran. How many times have you heard president Ahmadenijad threaten to wipe Israel off the map. You can’t let a savage like that go undisturbed in the development of a nuclear weapon. Ron stated there is no proof that they are developing a bomb? That is extremely naive at best. We are not just talking the survival of Israel here, we are talking about the survival of the world as we know it!!!!!
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 1:03pm@ronnie8365,
“Here’s some truth for the Paul fans…. Now who won’t go to the website for some truth?”
This is not an issue because …
Earmarks are constitutional, and even if there were no earmarks there would be ZERO money saved.
Earmarking is another word for “allocating”. What earmarking does is ammend the appropriations bills which withdraw money from the Treasury. This money will be spent, with or without earmarks, if it passes.
Any money that is not earmarked will be spent by the Executive Branch however they see fit, and this is dangerous to our liberties. This is why Ron Paul says that ALL of the appropriated funds need to be earmarked by the peoples’ representatives.
Most of the time, though, Ron Paul sees appropriations bills as unnecessary, so in these cases he will at least earmark as much of the money as possible in case it passes, but will vote against them.
See here.
Earmarks Don’t Add Up
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul513.html
“If a congressman does not submit funding requests for his district the money is simply spent elsewhere. To eliminate all earmarks would be to further consolidate power in the already dominant executive branch and not save a penny.”
And here.
In Defense of Ron Paul’s Earmarks
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Miami
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 1:04pmYoungBloodNews
As bad as it may get as horrible is that women is I can defend my home but I can not defend from a nuclear weapon and that is the treat that I ran represents. They do not do “ Mutual Assured Destruction ” they could care less, to them it’s martyrdom ( 73 virgins ), chaos and the return of the Martyr. When people promise to kill you if they can, you try to keep them from the ability to do so…..
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 1:09pm@Miami That’s not what I meant at all.
I meant this. We cannot change anyone’s morality by force (Law). Meaning. Man made laws (not Natural Laws) have no power to effectively persuade the individual to change his ways. Our laws are only capable of reflecting our own desired behavior and actions, but they cannot make us like robots or zombies to behave and act a certain way. That responsibility lies with the individual and society. I’m not against laws punishing wrong, I’m against passing laws that try to change people and are in the end ineffective, unnecessary and a burden to our Government and tax paying Citizens. I hope that explains it better. Our Christian character and morality should reflect our established Laws, but these can‘t automatically change people’s hearts and minds. That kind of change is determined by education and discipline.
Report Post »DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 1:22pm@miami
Report Post »It’s called a charge. A charge which was backed up with factual examples and now you attempt to deflect to hide from a hypocrisy you cannot possibly defend. (Just like the left.) Was it rude? Hell yes. The time for politeness is WELL over, for me, with you lying hypocrites. You’re being called the **** out on the floor. Like it or not your deflection is admission of hypocrisy.
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 1:48pm@RepubliCorp,
“Overall Paul has a good voting record but he is hardly the Saint that some would have you believe”
I’ve addressed at least most of these twice before.
“Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime.”
States rights issue.
“Voted NO on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research”
States rights issue.
“Voted NO on barring transporting minors to get an abortion.”
States rights issue.
“Against ID for immigrants; it leads to national ID card. (Dec 2007)”
Federal government doesn’t get to track you.
“Voted NO on Constitutionally defining marriage as one-man-one-woman. (Jul 2006)”
States rights issue.
“Voted NO on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Sep 2004)”
This would expand the powers of the federal government to require its approval for certain kinds of relationships – even legitimate ones. This would be a violation of the principle of inalienable rights. In fact, we need to get government OUT of marriage, to the extent that it’s in it.
“Voted NO on letting shareholders vote on executive compensation. (Jul 2009)”
States rights issue.
“Voted NO on allowing stockholder voting on executive compensation. (Apr 2007)”
States rights issue.
“Constitution even protects terrorists, not just citizens. (Apr 2011)”
He is right. Terrorism is a crime that must be prosecuted.
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Report Post »jocko
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 1:59pmRon Paul would be as big of a disaster as Obama. The guy is crazy as a loon and suffering from dementia.
If not, then he is incredibly naive and totally divorced from the reality of the world we live in.
Michelle Bachman is the only remaining true CONSERVATIVE AND PERSON OF FAITH.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 2:01pm(Continued from prior post)
“Opposes death penalty at state and federal level. (Jan 2008)”
He wouldn’t presume to have the authority to tell states how to punish crimes. And Congress has the discretion to choose the punishment for Treason. Having said that, I disagree with him on his view.
“Voted NO on military border patrols to battle drugs & terrorism. (Sep 2001)”
The war on drugs is a war on personal liberty. We have laws against actual crimes, and the government may not simply assume that we will break those laws if we’re under the influence of drugs.
“Voted NO on allowing vouchers in DC schools. (Aug 1998)”
States rights issue. Also, public schools are unconstitutional.
“Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids. (Apr 2003)”
States rights issue.
“Put 65 projects into 2006 bills, worth $4B to his district. (Dec 2007)”
See my post about earmarks, above. Earmarks are constitutional.
“Voted NO on requiring lobbyist disclosure of bundled donations. (May 2007)”
Violation of the right to liberty. It presumes that donations must require government approval. If there is a conflict of interest, this must be proven in a court of law. We CANNOT simply presume that a law is being violated by donors.
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Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 2:03pm(Continued from prior post)
“Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits about obesity against food providers. (Oct 2005)”
Violation of the right to liberty. Eating is always a personal choice, and we are allowed to buy or sell what we want. Food providers are NEVER responsible for obesity.
“Voted NO on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005)”
States rights issue. Also a violation of the right to liberty. Also a Second Amendment violation, since it would allow government to know something about the means by which it may be defeated in the event it chooses to violate our rights. And yes, all gun laws are violations of the Second Amendment.
“Voted NO on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003)”
Same as previous. There are laws against actual crimes, such as murder, and these laws ought not depend on what is used to commit the crimes.
“Earmarks, 400 million (2011)”
See my post about earmarks, above. Earmarks are constitutional.
Report Post »leftisneverright
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 2:33pm@ A DOCTORS LABOR IS NOT MY RIGHT
Excellent! Thanks for listing the real voting record of Ron Paul in context! Maybe some of these Ron Paul sycophants will calm down and realize that their hero is not all that palatable!
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 3:04pmREPUBLICORP: The more I hear Ron Paul, the more he sounds like a liberal. I would never vote for him. His stance on foreign policy and Iran is scary and on just that issue alone I wouldn’t vote for him. This guy is really out there. I would be scared to death to have him as President. We’d be in worse chaos in no time.
Report Post »Watchingtheweasels
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 3:32pmRon Paul is the last off ramp on our present highway to insanity.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 3:58pm@leftisneverright,
“Excellent! Thanks for listing the real voting record of Ron Paul in context! Maybe some of these Ron Paul sycophants will calm down and realize that their hero is not all that palatable!”
Thank you for reading my response to Republicorp‘s list of claims that supposedly prove that there is something wrong with Ron Paul’s voting record.
Maybe it will help some of these Ron Paul “sycophants” to prove to the NeoCons that he, rather than they, is the Constitutionalist.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 4:49pmDTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
I hide behind nothing, my posting are simple and clear. I try not to attack anyone on a personal level.
Hypocrisy? You keep using that word, I do not believe it means what you think it means
If that’s a charge, I charge your mother tossed the baby and raised the placenta…
You’re not rude, your ignorant and behaving the way liberals do. Accusing, insulting and name calling. I deal in facts, judging people by their words and actions. As I said before you’re a joke
Report Post »Miami
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 5:12pmcolt1860
I believe we’re much on the same page, I love Bachmann and believe she would be great for the country. Unfortunately I feel she would allow the MSM to write her narrative. She has to much class to get down and dirty. Whoever the candidate is will be dragged through the mud by the MSM.
We need someone who can write his or her own narrative without looking angry or crazy.
I will vote and fight for whom ever is nominated, sadly to meany of Paul supporters seem to want to take the ball and go home. Even a third party run and that will guarantee Obama’s reelection.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 6:18pm@Miami,
“I will vote and fight for whom ever is nominated, sadly to meany of Paul supporters seem to want to take the ball and go home.”
You don‘t understand that Obama’s policies are an extension of past anti-Constitutional policies held by BOTH parties. Getting rid of Obama without dealing with the fundamental issues of the Constitution, free markets, and monetary policy, will allow the destruction of our liberties and economy to continue.
Well-meaning as they are, many Conservatives are unknowingly supporting positions which were not supported by the Conservatives which came before them, but they are also supporting positions which are obviously unconstitutional.
The Marxists are close to destroying this country, and they know it. People are becoming more aware that fiat money is the primary reason this has been able to happen – under our noses, no less.
So thoroughly have the Marxists deceived us that we recite a Socialist Pledge (written by a Socialist, and is statist in nature) and say we believe in individual rights, and we praise a racist tyrant for violating states’ rights and fighting a pseudo-war on slavery that he was never committed to; That would be Abraham Lincoln.
See here.
Another Big Lincoln Lie Exposed
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Jefferson
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 6:35pmFunny how all of these armchair quarterbacks talk about Ron Paul’s foreign policy, but he has received MORE donations from the military that ALL of the other candidates COMBINED. Even more than Ohmamma. They want to flap their gums about “supporting the troops,” but when the troops send you a message by voting with their hard earned limited cash, you ignore it.
We have crossed the Rubicon. The traitors have voted to make the US a “battleground” and will arrest and detain American citizens indefinitely.
Report Post »YOU are on that list, whether you like it or not.
Ron Paul is the ONLY one who hasn’t been bought off. Quit parroting the MSM “presstitute” talking points, and do some actual research for a change.
This is the LAST chance to get it right before we tumble off the edge of a financial and societal cliff.
Ignore the warnings Ron Paul has been trying to get to you for over 30 years, and this country’s downfall will be on YOUR conscience, not ours.
We SEE the writing on the wall, and where things are headed.
You’d better wake up before it is too late.
This is NOT a drill.
momsense
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:33pmYeah, but he‘s stupid enought to believe that the Iranians won’t use the bomb.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:14pmRon Paul’s War: Dr. Paul supports using “letters of marque and reprisal.”
These are, in effect, licenses to private parties to carry out acts of war. We used them against the Barbary pirates. Almost immediately after the attack on the World Trade Center, Dr. Paul introduced in the 107th Congress H.R. 2076, called the September 11 Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001, authorizing holders of the letters to go after bin Laden and other Al Qaeda leaders and seize them and their property. He also voted to give President Bush authority to use the military to go after Al Qaeda, but he has been pressing for letters of marque ever since.
Dr. Paul’s bill would have covered not only past attacks but any “planned future air piratical aggressions and depredations” against us. It would have given the president discretion to pay up to $40 billion in what were, in effect, bounties for the “capture, alive or dead, of Osama bin Laden or any other al Qaeda conspirator responsible for the act of air piracy upon the United States on September 11, 2001.”
Dr. Paul said that one thing he wanted as to avoid a trillion dollar expedition when there was a simpler, constitutional approach of bringing the war to our enemy.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:48pmA Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
My friend I agree Paul is a genius when it comes to our government finances. I would appoint him to restructure the Fed and setting it on a path to disillusion of it.
When you weigh his foreign policy it not just found wanting but nonexistent or even foolish.
Yes, worthless money is without question a threat to the nation’s and personal security. Many mistakes have been made, some accidentally and some intentionally. I’ve never been a fan of the Bush family, when one speaks of right wing social engineering, Barbara Bush has been its face. To say it is “Well-meaning” is far to kind, any form of central planning is dangerous, Socialism is Socialism no matter what party is in charge of it.
As dangerous as monopoly money is, it can’t evaporate a city in a Millie-seconds. Where mismanaging the foreign policy with the current cast of characters, do I really need to list them? We’re on the verge of a third world war and turning our backs on it will not defuse the situation.
Any of those in the fight for the nomination are a leap in the right direction from the last two decades of nominees since Ronald Reagan, he was not perfect by any stretch and he brought us back from the brink of disaster.
Report Post »Pigpen
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:00pmREPUBLICORP posted that Paul was no saint because Paul voted:: “Against ID for immigrants; it leads to national ID card.”
Hello? The fact that Ron Paul is AGAINST a National ID Card is a GOOD thing! And most ALL of your list is explained by the same thing! Paul voted no on a LOT of legislation solely because of the snowball or slippery-slope effects that the bills would have caused if they had become laws. I don’t want an ID Card for Illegal Immigrants, I want Illegal Immigrants to be sent home.
You could also say that Ron Paul voted NO on keeping Americans safe from Terrorism because he was/is against the Patriot Act. But you know not even the mainstream Republicans would fall for that one. Even SUPPORTERS of the Patriot Act admit that it has a LOT of SCARY stuff in it, but they are SCARED and don’t want to repeal the Patriot Act out of FEAR. Ron Paul is NOT afraid, and I am not afraid to VOTE for Ron Paul!
Report Post »Pigpen
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:47pmI don’t know how theBlaze editors and/or staff work when it comes to “moderating” radicals like myself, but if the author of the article has any control over moderating those of us who have to have ALL of our posts moderated before they are allowed to be displayed in the comment stream, then it would appear that Mr Santarelli has been the most fair to me in the past. HOWEVER, I gotta say that this headline: “New Iowa Poll Has Gingrich Leading Over Paul Then Romney in 3-Way Race” is appallingly manipulative!
Hello again! I thought that both theBlaze and Republicans in general were against the weaselly tactics of the Mainstream Media based on PRINCIPLE?!? This is BIG NEWS that Ron Paul has edged out Mitt Romney in ANY poll much less an Iowa one! But that little fact is well obfuscated by this smarmy little headline worthy of CNN or MSNBC or CBS or the NYT or any of the lefties who so slyly spin this country’s news to their neo-communist favor. It is groundbreaking that NEWT is out front now yes, BUT it is even more groundbreaking that RON PAUL is now looking like a viable candidate in the farm belt! C’mon Blaze. Don’t censor me for just this little critique. I didn’t break your Terms of Use on this little post. Honest!
Report Post »YoungBloodNews
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:53pm@MOMSENSE
“Yeah, but he‘s stupid enough to believe that the Iranians won’t use the bomb.”
Yes, use the bomb. The one or few they have vs our hundreds. Even the corrupt Mullahs know this it suicide. Why do I say corrupt Mullahs, because there is CURRENT tension in Iran over the lording Mullahs who live the high life while the rest suffer (read up on foreign events idiot).
To the rest of you and those who doubt me. Wow okay under your logic Iran wipes out ONE major US city, we retaliate and turn them to glass with nukes to spare. SOOOOOOO SCARY
or my logic:
Our system fails as it currently is. Shelves are empty of food staples and remaining food costs are off the chart. Those who relied on gov. bene’s to get by, some DREGS decide to group up and take from the weak to survive. Add to this the family men, guys who were good and did their part to get by and live modest (but did not cache food and resourced like many of us). This guy, family man, is suddenly in a position where he needs to feed his kid and can’t, Hmmmmmm What will he do, what would you (family folk) do??????? I already know that answer.
So it boils down to this (I love you fools who say ‘Oh but Youngblood, I have weapons and ammo and have prepared for this!’, well how many rounds do YOU have stupid?): They majority in this country DO NOT PREPARE, and are unaware. US preppers are a vast MINORITY and hence will be a constant target. So keep speaking out of your @s$ about IRAN, Im a realist
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:16amAnd Ron Paul hasn’t accomplished anything in his almost 35 years as a politician. One would think he would have accomplished something of note with that many years under his belt. His lack of actually doing anything in that amount of time really worries me. Plus I don’t like foriegn policies because it leaves us vulnerable. And in a time when their are many enemies of the USA, both homegrown and foriegn born, the last thing we need is a Pacifist for a Commander-in-Chief, and yes people he is a complete Pacifist. While I’m at it… let’s not forget that he has made some comments in the past of the sorts of people he would put in charge of Cabinet positions and his choices are down-right scary!
Report Post »But all the Pot smokers really like him.
thepatriotdave
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:20amOooops, I almost forgot… If Ron Paul was to happen to win the primary it would guarantee 4 more years of Obama. Now to be honest, with Cain out of the picture now, I’m not so sure that any of the candidates in the top tier have a prayer of beating Obama. I do know that RP would lose the GENERAL ELECTION.
Report Post »Bill in Texas
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 10:11amBr@dley
Yah he’s quite the politician, lets load my earmarks in a bill and then vote against it when you know it will pass without you. It’s a win win. He can deny voting for earmarks, and still look good to his constituents for getting funds for local projects!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 1:02pmAs Ron Paul says: “You have two choices. Either you can work your way out of this, or you wait until it collapses and you have to rebuild it.”
A primary vote for either Romney or Gingrich is a vote for waiting, just as surely as a vote for Obama in 2008 was. Neither Gingrich nor Romney has even the faintest grasp of the nature or the extent of the problems presently facing the nation. Neither Gingrich nor Romney will do anything in office, anything at all, to address these problems. They will instead do precisely as various presidents named Bush, Obama and Clinton have done in attempting to buy more time, and thereby exacerbating the situation when no more time can be bought.
Republicans now have two choices. They can either put forward Ron Paul as a candidate who is committed to address the financial and economic problems facing the nation, or they can put forward a candidate who will do little more than ensure Republicans bear the blame for the economic collapse of the country.
Report Post »CulpepperJosh1638
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:20pmOne book alone should damn Newt Gingrich; READ the forward to Alan Tofflins “Creating a New Civilization; politics of the third wave” If you are a typical RINO, his globalist tone will fit nicely into your desire to be the “police” of the world. If your a person who understands liberty, you’ll see that Newt is undermining the American way of life in effort to impose the Great American century. Not to mention Newt is the GOP’s version of Bill Clinton. WAY TO GO RINOS your going to elect someone worse than Barack Obama.
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leftisneverright
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:25amWorse than Obama, are you kidding me! Pull your head out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »ares338
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:19pmI wish people would ditch the word “troll”. On this site it is used to designate someone who disagrees with another’s point of view whether valid or not!
Report Post »HarmonyCorruption
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:14pmIt never ceases to amaze me how full of hate you anti-Paul posters are. You claim to be conservative, but ignore and often outright HATE a devout Constitutionalist. Many of you will call on the great “11th Commandment” but don’t hesitate to slam Paul or his supporters, all the while claiming that we are the bad ones. I hope you are ready to lose in 2012 if you nominate anyone else.
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:19pmOK, one more time. I don’t have a problem with Dr. Paul. It’s his arrogant, jerk supporters who bother me. You’re always talking down your nose to people. Like you’re lecturing a kid. We don’t want to hear it. So, if you’ll zip it, I will.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:28pmI agree with Grayling646, I have a problem with Dr. Paul’s policy on national security, but other than that, my main problem is with the Paulies is their tendency to describe anyone who disagrees with them as morons and un-americans. Lighten up Paulies.
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:29pmBecause we are tired of being slaves because of sheep like you, if you were in our shoes you would be pulling your hair out. I dont hate americans, i just hate americans like you.
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:34pmSee. It never fails. You Paul supporters always come back with something arrogant and wiseass. Quite simply, I throw up a little in my mouth every time I read one of your posts.
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:36pmShasta if u knew anything about ron paul then you would be angry too. FREEDOM is the most important thing we have in our lives. People in 3rd world countires kill over soccer games, im willing to kill for my freedom, are you? Acourse people who know ron paul is our only way to freedom, why wouldnt we be pissed that you decide to stay ignorant and manipulated by the media, thats how all you treat democrats and socialists, so all of a sudden you guys dont like the same treatment? You didnt really think u guys were informed did you? lol I love how you all hate the people who want you to be free, do you know only 5% of the human population in the history of mankind has experienced freedom. Why arent you so worked up about freedom, whats wrong with you shasta and grayling, name 1 thing u guys know that a ron paul supporter has said, then try to name something right you have said about ron paul, the scoreboard is getting pretty embarassing
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:47pm@young patriot
I don’t hate Dr. Paul or you or any of his supporters. As I’ve said before, I don‘t like his supporters because you’re arrogant, rude and disrespectful. You think you know better. You’re just like the left wing elitists. Your most recent reply is a perfect example of what I’m talking about?
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:52pmWe do not HATE Dr. Paul… He just has a few disqualifying positions. But, all of us “Haters” would vote for him if he wins the nomination, will you Paul supporters pledge similarly?
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:53pmLet me try to say this slowely for you. I care about freedom, and liberty. What do you care about, if you cant have pride in your country then what can you have? You call me arrogant, i call myself awake and aleart and open to logical solutions to our problems. I have never heard ron paul be asked a question he didn’t answer. I love ron paul, he inspires me, how would u have me try to convey to you that he is our savior? Why dont you have love for anything in life like i do? Why do i have to be arrogant when i so badly just want you all to see the truth, why is that arrogance?
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:53pmgrayling646, may I kindly suggest that you stand back a moment and look at your own behavior on this subject. Just read your comments and nothing else. Same thing, over and over — and not nice at all.
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:16am@V
Report Post »This is a response to watching you and others for months spew your arrogance all over me and everybody else. I’ve had enough.
jvig
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 1:14am@youngpatriot
I am a Ron Paul supporter and I understand where greyling646 is coming from. If you truly want to support RP spend more time talking about the issues like sound money. Does RP ever call people morons? The disrespectful tone sounds like the overly emphatic Obama supporters who love him regardless of his policy shifts.
RP is not a perfect candidate but in my view he is the best hope for saving our country from financial collapse if it is even possible at this point.
I am with RP on his economic policy but have had some difficulty with his foreign policy. This nation though is facing what has killed empires before us; unsustainable wars.
As conservatives we are going to have to face that we can not grow our way out from under the financial liabilities the Federal government has ahead of it. We will have to cut everything including militarism or we will literally have no country to defend.
We can bring our troops home and still be secure. China is an example of what I am talking about. China is not policing the globe and I don’t think it compromises their security. No one would want to invade China or piss them off. The U.S. is broke, we can’t keep policing the world.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 3:49amJvig, I can see that you are woke up, but also see you still have some doubts. Pauls policy is something that we need right now. We should have been awake in 2007 and elected Ron Paul. If we had , we would be in better shape than we are now. At present, I fear that our economy is going to crash regardless of who we elect. I just pray that we have a person in office that beleives in the Constitution and not a person who would hand the Key to the Country over to the U.N. We are headed for a confrontation of huge proportions, and everyone is sitting around believing it cannot happen in the U.S. Well, it is about on us. Watch this video for a little more clarity in an entertaining way. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=351761#ooid=VtMWZ2MjoZHMco4i8lZolGtHwphRu_Xt
Report Post »RonPaul
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 4:02amI’ve only recently been getting interested in Paul for about the last 3 months. I have rarely experienced hate from his followers. They definatly show their support and defend him, but they are never rude about it. Not that I’ve seen. But the amount of hate that people on the Blaze are spewing towards Ron Paul and his followers is really saddening. I’m not even a huge fan of Paul, but I like him more than the other candidates, and I think he’s the only one who we can trust to change things. I don’t understand why everyone has such hate towards him and why the media ignores him when he has been one of the top runners for a while. Sometimes I think that Blaze commenters are just white trailer trash that jump on the pseudo-conservative band wagon.
Report Post »UnitedWeStand DividedWeFall
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 4:27am@youngpatriot
I am glad you are so passionate about Ron Paul and Liberty. I too am a Ron Paul supporter, however I refuse to say he is our “savior” as it is up to WE THE PEOPLE to get us out of this mess we let ourselves get into. But that is another topic for another time.
I just wanted to say I have to agree with JVIG and GRAYLING646 in regards to your behavior. When you are disrespectful to people and call them names etc. it makes you look like poo. And I think it is your confidence in what you believe in that makes you seem arrogant even though you may not intend to. I would say it is not so much WHAT you are saying as it is HOW you are saying it. I would suggest you take head to what we are saying and reevaluate how you express yourself in your posts. I certainly encourage you to continue speaking your mind but I hope you can find ways to do it in a more respectful and polite manner in the future. For example, instead of saying “…its so sad that people are too stupid for freedom these days.“ you could have said something like ”I just wish people were better informed about Freedom and how incredibly valuable it is”.
Furthermore, at the end of all this we have GRAYLING646 saying “From now on, I’m gonna be just as big a jerk toward all of the jerk Paul supporters.” Negativity often leads to more negativity. We are on the same side brother, but you are planting negative seeds not positive ones. I do hope you understand this and can reverse this cycle soo
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 5:10amSorry, I would have a little sympathy for grayskull666 if he wasnt constantly coming on here for one reason…EVERYONE of his posts add nothing! He only incites trouble by playing the victim, All it is is a plou to keep every Ron Paul supporter nuetered and quiet. We as Americans have been quiet enough! We will poi t out a rino when we smell one!
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 6:47am@ thetruthshallsetyoufree.
LOL you‘re so arrogant and you can’t even see it.
Report Post »I’ve been watching the RP jerks condemn and criticize those of us who disagree with them, call us morons, talk down your nose to us, tell us how you know better, tell us we’re wrong, interrupt other candidates speeches, do childish things like send in bogus negative reviews of Killing Lincoln and Dubs Goes to Washington (man, how immature can you be?) and other things for months. Because I finally start speaking up you’re gonna try to throw it back in my face?
Anyone who wants to know who the real jerks are has only to read the RP jerks posts. It’s easy to see.
bhohater
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:39amI like Ron Paul, he is a true patriot and has many good ideas, especially on domestic policy, but if he got the nomination the left would have a field day. Remember the mushroom cloud ads the dems ran against Goldwater in 64? The media would portray Paul as a mad lunatic. All you die hard Ron Paul fans are missing the point, which is to defeat Obummer. To do that we need to remember what Bill Buckley said and vote for the most conservative candidate with the best chance of winning. That would be Newt Gingrich.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:14am@bhohater You’re right about the attack of the left wing media, but I think that will come irregardless of who our Nominee is. I‘ve looked into Buckley’s view, and I found this article:
“WILL: Today, we have a very different kind of foreign policy. It’s called Wilsonian. And the premise of the Bush Doctrine is that America must spread democracy, because our national security depends upon it. And America can spread democracy. It knows how. It can engage in national building. This is conservative or not?
BUCKLEY: It’s not at all conservative. It’s anything but conservative. It’s not conservative at all, inasmuch as conservatism doesn’t invite unnecessary challenges. It insists on coming to terms with the world as it is…
WILL: You know who Ron Paul is — the congressman. He’s derided and discounted by many conservatives and his fellow Republicans as a kook. Yet his strong stands in favor of limited constitutional government, lower taxes, more personal freedoms and nonintervention overseas make him in many ways sound like a conservative of old — a Robert Taft, or a Coolidge kind of conservative in some ways.
BUCKLEY: I agree.”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/25/was-bill-buckley-a-foreign-policy-leftist/
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:36amI don’t hate Americans, I just hate Americans like you? man, that’s real constitutional. There is NO talking to a Paulite. And for those who agree, please don’t lump them (the Paulites) in with everyone who smokes marijuana. Not everyone had no brain cells to start with, and it doesn’t kill brain cells anyway. If you start out as an idiot and smoke pot, you’ll still be an idiot. If you start out with a high IQ, you don’t lose it. My highschool valedictorian was a smoker, and now he’s a neurosurgeon.
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 5:47pmAll of you RP clowns are missing the point. I’ve explained it several times. I DON’T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH DR. PAUL. It’s his arrogant, jerk supporters who bother me.
Report Post »Ssenkrad
Posted on December 5, 2011 at 12:49amI’m sorry, I have no respect for these people complaining out Paul supporters. These are the same people who call Dr. Paul a kook and a loon, and also call Paul supporters Paulites, Paulbots, Pot heads, the whole nine yards. How about take a step back and look in the mirror: YOU ARE DOING THE SAME THING YOU ACCUSE RON PAUL SUPPORTERS OF DOING!!!
Besides, do you really expect Ron Paul supporters to ALWAYS be nice?! None of you certainly are; after years, and years, and years of being called idiots, morons, and druggies, and having their candidate called a loon over and over and over again, do you expect them to always be civil and not every say a single nasty word? It’s ludicrous, I tell you. If you were in their position and saw liberty, freedom, and our country sinking away and everyone blaming you for it, you would do the same.
Report Post »nobull14
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:11pmwhat do you want Mitt is a shined up turd ? and Paul is a little too much of a flake ? so all you really have left is Newt !!
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:19pmRon Paul a FLAKE? 30 years in state governent, Never flip flopped once, WHAT CRACK ARE YOU ON AND WHY WONT YOU SHARE ANY WITH ME!!!!
Report Post »nobull14
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:24pmRon Paul does not have chance of winning the 2012 elections he has tried many times with no results ? .So what makes you think he has a chance now
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:28pmPeople are fed up. Thats why. Its harder to black ball someone these days, in 08 yes there was smart phones and computers. But these days pretty much everyone has access to the internet and videos of ron paul, if you dont want to watch them, then you dont want freedom, i love how people think that is arrogance, but its just the truth, i have no reason to want to push 1 candidate, i just listen to ron paul and my heart soars and i believe there is a chance in my life to raise a family in joy. (24 years old btw)
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:45pmYoung Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:28pm
But these days pretty much everyone has access to the internet and videos of ron paul,
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And Glenn Beck too! (LOL):
“Glenn Beck: Ron Paul is the closest to our Founding Fathers”
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyyI1EC5i2U
PzV
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 3:13amWow, for a nobul! you’re re(tum is full of it.
Here is the bottom line. YOU think the Gingtch is great!? Here is the truth. Gingrich, Romney, Perry, Huntsman, and Obama are all the same. The end result is the same. The difference is semantics. It is the speed of the train taking us down the same track. The destination is no different.
So if one of these is selected, then why should I vote for them in the general election? The result is the same. If we are going to insist on destroying our country, it is better to do it sooner rather than later. For this gives a better opportunity to return to our former values.
I know there are millions out there like me. If a RINO is selected for a republican presidential candidate, I will be voting for Obama – as will millions of other Americans that really care about this country.
Report Post »PzV
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 3:22amPeople are finally waking up to the fact that holding their nose and voting for the nominated politician in their party has not worked. I have and I am disappointed that I have thrown my vote away over the last 20 years voting for the establishment candidate “because they can win”.
Remember the definition of insanity? Look it up and never forget it!
Report Post »hucksqr
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 4:33amPZV, I’m with you completely on the statement that Newt, Romney, Obama, they’re all the same. However, where you lose me is that you would “punish” the republican party by voting for Obama. Have you not learned from our Founding Fathers? Voting is not just a Right, it is a Citizens responsibility to their community. I believe that if you vote against your values, for any reason, is showing nothing but disrespect for that responsibility. Neither should you vote for the RINO the republicans attempt to feed to you. Instead, punish them both, write in Ron Paul, or vote Libertarian. :)
Report Post »bhohater
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:17amI have flip-flopped between the candidates but now that the dust has settled a bit truly believe that Newt has the best chance of defeating Obummer. He would eat him alive in the debates, and despite his marital problems of the past, which of course has been blown out of proportion by the dems and media, I believe he is the most brilliant of all the candidates and would do what is right for the country.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 9:41amNewt is slick alright — slick enough to fool Americans who only listen to debates and don‘t check Newt’s background.
an example:
“The American challenge in leading the world is compounded by our Constitution. Under our [constitutional system] – either we’re going to have to rethink our Constitution, or we’re going to have to rethink our process of decision-making.“ He went on to profess an oxymoronic belief in ”very strong but limited federal government,” and pledged, “I am for the United Nations.” — Newt Gingrich, July 1995, speech at the Center for Strategic & International Affairs
Newt and Pelosi’s global warming ad is more than just an ad — it shows Newt’s ideas for one world government, regardless of the Constitution.
This also shows Newt’s contempt for the Constitution:
Gingrich wrote the forward for a book “Creating a New Civilization” by Alvin and Heidi Tofler, who are “ex” Marxists and “futurists” that Newt calls friends. “The Constitution of the United States needs to be reconsidered and altered…..The system that served us so well must, in its turn, die and be replaced. ”
What was in Newt’s mind? That doesn’t sound like anything an American would support.
Here is a web page of Newt’s history condensed and easy to understand:
Report Post »http://www.landthieves.com/board/showthread.php?20533-So-you-think-you-know-Newt-Gingrich
Mike Templewind
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:55pmIf all we have left is Newt we’re done! He is the biggest globalist in the game, CFR member, Bilderberg’s second choice on the Repub side, and with both hands out to multinational super corporations. In my opinion, he would gleefully strap a little boy to each depleted round of ammunition just to increase the kill rate of our sons and daughters who are also destined to die from using the weapons used to deliver them. Am I mad? You damn right!!! And though I won’t stoop to name calling those who oppose themselves and our liberty by supporting ANY OF THE OTHER CHOICES, I will speak very clearly toward the sold-out politicians who make up the current debates. Whatever “difficulty” most of you have with Ron Paul should be laid aside if you compare them to completely selling out to the New World Order that each of the candidate will walk us right into…..
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:07pmI posted this before……what about Bauchman???…she doesn’t have a sleazy past…she’s conservative…she’s christian…she is smart…she’s a tax attorney…good with money…isn’t dillusional about the middle east…has spoken up for the constitution just as many times as Ron Paul…why isn’t she being discussed…
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:22pmMom. I can only speak for myself of course. I liked her at the very beginning of the campaign. But after awhile she seemed to be lacking in depth on some of the issues. She says a lot of great things about the budget and debt limits, family issues and States rights, but something is just missing for me. At this point I think she is running for VP, and that would be fine with me if she made the ticket.
Report Post »Stopit
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:25pmOne big plus with Michele is she did hold the line on increasing the debt ceiling. We could still be a few trillion lower right now, and an A+ credit rating. But no, got to feed the monster government.
Report Post »AmeriCat
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:02amMichelle Bachmann is truly THE candidate who should be rising now…
She just needs to be included in the polls…
Report Post »those selection machines of MSM and Establishment GOP / FOX,
because We The People still support her!
…TEA
recoveringneocon
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 2:01amvoted for the Patroit Act and she was an IRS Lawer for starters
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 2:04amEdit
Report Post »Please put in the “Y”
tb54701
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:04pmDo you have faith in our Founders? Do you understand the power of the Constitution and the republic? Do you think our Country can be brought back from the brink of socialism? Do you believe in Free Market Capitalism,, not crony capitalism or corporatism,,, but truly Free Markets…? Then give Ron Paul 4 years. to make a difference. You know in your hearts that anyone else will give us the same statist conditions we currently suffer under. Vote your principles,, don’t vote to win. To do so means you vote for all of us to lose.
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:09pmWasting your time, your speaking to a bunch of sheep that rather perpetuate lies than actually spend 5 minutes at youtube learning that there is logically no other choice than ron paul. freaking sheep, cant handle freedom, we dont deserve it. Benjamin Franklin said we only deserve our liberty if we can keep it, and we definatly cant keep it.
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:13pmInterviewer: Dr. Paul, what will you do about the Iran situation?
Dr. Paul: Why, I‘ll go over there and give’em a big ol’ hug. Yes, I will.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:14pmI’d choose Paul over newt or romney, that I know!
Report Post »AmeriCat
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:04amMichelle Bachmann clearly, easily over RomneyCare and NewtyPelosi
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 5:18amLook here folks…another perfect example of greyterd666 stupidity, dont expect for people to not call you names when you cant debate anything, all you do is repeat your loser mantra that Dr Ron Paul is bad, but you never tell us why..perhaps its cause you can’t.
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:51pmJust a touch off subject:
Clemson’s kicking butt!!!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:53pmLOL Yep, Ron Paul is kicking butt too!
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:54pmSee…there’s that arrogance again.
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:00pmCan all the blazers who don’t like ron paul, please stand up and be honest and admit they know nothing about him. I search on youtube everyday for ron paul videos, if you havent seen them they are your own fault and you deserve another 4 years of obama or romney. You can all burn, really. Im not going waste my time writing facts about ron paul. If you dont want to know about him, then you dont want freedom.
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:04pmYou Paul supporters are so arrogant it’s almost sickening. Read what you wrote, patriot. It sounds like you’re scolding your 8 yr old.
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:10pmIts not arrogance, thats the funny thing, all us paul supporters have watched hours of ron paul speaking, so you are the only one that is out of touch, you are like an 8 year old that walks into a convesation, your out of your element donny just STFU
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:16pmAgain with the arrogance. Sheesh, enough already!!!
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:21pmSo, are you dumb or really know nothing about ron paul and can offer nothing in the debate other then… lol ron paul supports are arrogant? HELL YA WE ARE ARROGANT ABOUT FREEDOM
Report Post »GUNNSUP
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:20amRead up on Dr paul, he is a good man & the most honest out of all of them. I used to be a neo-con until I realized they are all ripping us a new one….Ron Paul will get us back to our constitution & he is not a globaist puppet….He is truly a man that will work for us & not his pocketbook like the rest of them.
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:48amYou may be arrogant about freedom, I don’t know. I do know you’re arrogant toward people who disagree with you. I’ve been watching you jerks talk down to us for months. That’s over. From now on, I’m gonna be just as big a jerk toward all of the jerk Paul supporters. You’re sickening.
Report Post »raspberrytea
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:51pmRon Paul 2012 ! Blazers……
Report Post »Please read the link that JackWrench
provided.
grayling646
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:43pmNobama or Nopaul in 2012
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:01pmWhen Bush was on the radio and saying “I’m thinking about going to war” He did this for a good while and that to me defined him as one of the most ignorant Presidents that we ever had…I was of the opinion that it should have been a Reagan deal ..quietly get in and get out. It can be done in a succession of ways…No one even has to know..why do a viet nam? Go in defensive and kill thousands of our men?… stupid….. I did a college thesis on the statistics of Islam vs Christians.. I was against going to war because we had muslims right here and felt we needed our military here to defend us..We have been at war ever since..and guess what? The enemy is running the country..So do you really think that being at war has helped..I think Paul has the right idea..build our military here at home..quit supporting all those arabs..we are drowning..if we legalize drugs..we flatten the tires of the cartel and the other pushers..I mean look..the money is being made off of it by not only law enforcement but at the hightest echelons of our government. I don’t like the idea of legalizing them or prostitution..and I don’t see the reasoning in legalizing the degradation of women.. but we do need to go back to the Constitution..Who’s willing to do that?
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 2:09am@ashes
Report Post »You really make a lot of c0mm0nsense
ddg7
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:38pmRon Paul‘s problem is that he actually SAYS he won’t stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons and the other candidates just SAY Iran cannot get nuclear weapons but do nothing. GW and Obama said Iran cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons but nothing is done. If Israel is attacked with nuclear weapons they have the ability to retaliate with nuclear weapons ….. and it’s goodbye Iran. What about our ‘good friend’ Pakistan and their nuclear arsenal. Why were they allowed to get nuclear weapons? Build it or buy it, Iranians, Palestinians, Afhgans, Syrians, etc. are all nuclear threats what’s the difference? At least Ron Paul would let us be able to live out our lives in prosperity before armageddon.
Report Post »cyclops
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:46pmAgreed…………and more chaos with a rainbow nations way of thinking……..be cautious with that way of thinking……
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:51pm@DDG7 Did you happen to see that Irans nuclear facililty got mysteriously destroyed the other day?/lol
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:55pmDo you want LIES or do you want the truth? You’ll always get the truth from Dr. Paul. When Mitt Romney said “Elect Obama and Iran will have nukes. Elect ME and Iran WON’T get nukes.”
The media has used fear to control the public and there went Romney capitalizing on that fear. Romney can’t do ONE thing to keep Iran from getting nukes. China and Russia have said leave Iran alone. What’s he going to do? What do YOU propose we do?
Report Post »tzion
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:11pmIf Iran gets Nukes and uses them on Israel it’ll be no more Israel. The best Israel could do is ensure Iran is destroyed as well. And once Israel’s gone, America is likely next. It’s one thing to not make enemies where none exist and another to ignore enemies as they prepare to destroy you.
Report Post »hallkbrdz
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:12pmHear hear.. well said.
Sometimes the truth hurts, but it’s much better than lies. At least you can act and plan on the truth.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:41pmWhy hasn’t Israel blasted Iran? Why is the job of the US? Think maybe someone is trying to avoid WWIII?
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:43pmSearch some YouTube video of Michael Scheuer, he was the head of the CIA Bin Laden unit, and is extremely well educated on these matters, and was a regular on Fox. He says if the troops come home, a terrorist attack is extremely unlikely.
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 8:12amWhen Ron Paul cuts aid to the enemies of Israel, which is multiple times more that Israel gets. you will see real foreign policy at work. The caliphate will fold. Israel WILL take out Iran without any interference form US!! BOOM!
Report Post »sambachico
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:45amThe Iranian situation is so ridiculous, it‘s a complete distraction so that we don’t worry so much about the domestic problems at home. if Iran obtains a nuclear weapon, first then have no way of deploying it without specialized weaponry they would have to develop. #2 – Israel is threatened by Iran, and Israel will blow them off the face of the earth when ready. They have their finger on the trigger now. Our domestic problems are much more troubling than worrying about Iran. Paul has my vote, as my children’s future is a larger concern here in the USA. The terrorism is always fear-mongered and at this point we don’t have much of a bill of rights left. See Oath Keepers recent video regarding this. The senate is declaring the homeland a warzone, thus you no longer have rights to due process, and can be detained indefinitely. Ron Paul would not sign a bill to authorize an act like this as President. That’s my #1 issue, not some maybe questions about Iran possibly getting or developing a nuclear weapon. Our own government is more of a threat to our liberties than some extremists thousands of miles on another continent with no navy and no ability to even produce their own gasoline refineries.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/12/01/stewart-rhodes-interview-citizen-detention-act-senate-has-declared-war-on-american-people/
Report Post »Ssmicheal
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:34pmBesides Mitt and Newt are the same old big government politicians we have always had
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:43pmYes, they are — not much difference between Romney and Obama. I’ve been doing a “call from home” Republican Primary Poll that has Democrats on it! — they choose Romney! Makes me cringe each time I hear it.
As for Newt — he blows which ever way the money is flowing:
Newt “I am not a lobbyist for ethanol” Gingrich has yet to divorce himself from the corporate corn lobby.
Newt lobbied for ethanol subsidizes as recently as January 2011 calling the Wall Street Journal’s view against subsidies:
“…just plain flat intellectually wrong.” (Wall Street Journal)
He proposed federally mandated flex-fuel cars for all Americans:
“If they’re prepared to insist on a flex-fuel vehicle and every car in America’s capable of buying ethanol, I think the industry can stand on its own” (Radio Iowa)
Why does he believe in corn subsidies and mandates? Because his bank account is lined with corporate corn money.
In 2009 Newt was one of the highest paid consultants for Growth Energy, a coalition of ethanol producers, earning $312,500. (Politico)
Rallying his bosses from Growth Energy in 2009, he said ethanol is:
“…very, very important from an environmental standpoint…if you’re concerned about global warming, not supporting ethanol makes absolutely no sense, and if you’re concerned about carbon loading of the atmosphere, supporting ethanol is a major step in the right direction.”(iWatch news)
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:50pmAny candidate but Paul.
Report Post »goobert
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:34pmSo Ron Paul is leading on Mitt Romney? This is the real story. And Newt may be rising fast but will be sinking soon just like all other candidates. Just wait until people start to Google Newt and all the affairs he has had. Hrmmm?
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:50pmYeah, hard to believe. The media keeps saying “Ron Paul can’t win” and yet he’s 2nd in Iowa (and guess what else, it’s not official yet — but he’s also second in New Hampshire!)
Makes O’Reilly, Dick Morris and the Fox network look pretty stupid huh?
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:02pmReally hurts to come on the blaze and see all the ignorance of Ron Paul. I thought u guys came here to get out of the media manipulation, but instead the blaze is just a place for you guys to feel safe heareded together with like minded sheep. Ron Paul is the only conservative in the republican party, only one that speaks of the founding fathers all the time, a true patriot. Where did all of you lose your way? I would give my life to any person on this site that watched all the ron paul videos, and still didnt want to vote for him, dont vote for ron paul, vote for freedom.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:33pmSo Dr. Paul is a shoe in? Then why are you Paulies acting so desperate? Why do you call the rest of us such horrible names?
Report Post »unsafe
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:58amRon P runs every year and gets no were. Like a lot of what Paul has said But some of his stuff is totaly off the wall. Sorry Pauls I would never vote for him he is a bit of a crack pot on a lot of things. Been around for a long time and Pauls has been saying this same old **** for years.He need to retire after this , but he well be the cause that we have Obama for another 4 yrs with his talk of a 3rd party. Paul would be great as the watcher over the FEDS but not Pres.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:07am@unsafe
Ron Paul: 1-in-20,000,000 Chance I’ll Run Third Party
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEZg-rB-W5Q
Report Post »sambachico
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:50am@shasta
As a Paul supporter i’ve been called plenty of names here on the blaze. Paul supporters generally attack policies, not a person. Many Paul supporters get fed up over the willful ignorance of those who love the state, and listen to fox news as it’s the word of God, and continue to willfully compromise voting for some douche-bag like Newt Gingrich, when he actually may be worse of a globalist and crony capitalist than even Obama. Paul supporters generally are concerned about our welfare as a nation in terms of abiding by and restoring our constitution which maximizes freedom, and is supposed to bind down the tyrants with the chains of the constitution as Jefferson said. Our politicians ignore the rule of law, so we basically have a system of democratic anarchy. That should be your #1 concern, not what Iran might do.
Report Post »Ssmicheal
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:31pmWe need someone like Ron Paul to save our asses financially and it would not hurt to pull in bunch as far as our global military footprint.
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:37pmAnybody but Obama or Paul in 2012
Report Post »Koz469
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:03pmIf Noot or Romney are the nominee I will vote third party. I can‘t hold my nose and vote for these RINO’s. I couldn’t for McCain either.
Report Post »THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:22amGrayturd, How did you escape the toilet?
Report Post »palerider54
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:20pmIf Gingrich, Romney or Paul get the nomination I swear I will vote for Obama just to hurry up and get the destruction of our nation over with.
Report Post »They absolutly refuse to put a born again Christian conservative in the WH.
Jesus, PLEASE COME SOON.
godlovinmom
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:25pmDon’t go that far, my friend!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:29pmRon Paul is a born again Christian, Baptist. Says his faith comes from Jesus Christ.
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:36pmRon Paul is a born again Christian but most of his supporters are arrogant jerks.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:48pmWho cares about Dr. Paul’s supporters? They aren’t going to sit in the White House.
I’m a 60 year old, Christian Tea Party person that supports Ron Paul and it’s not fair of you to generally label me with name-calling. I‘ve NEVER in the months I’ve been at the Blaze called any one names.
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:05pmShows your ignorance, Ron Paul is Christan. Next ignorant untrue statement about Ron Paul. You guys talk about not being sheep and getting carried into mainstream media lies, yet the only true tea party candidate in ron paul is treated with nothing but scorn around here. I swear we deserve what we get, just like benjamin franklin said.
Report Post »HumbleCitizen
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:19pm@ Vechorik
Report Post »Gray is just a troll (probably a regular in a differnt name) here only to stir up drama. Gray doesn’t “know” most,.. many, ..several,..or even a few of RP supporters (personally). What he “knows” about the masses of RP supporters could fit into a thimble. He name calls…because that is the method the left uses ala Alinsky. Click his name.
recoveringneocon
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 2:18amYes and Young Patiot is falling right into it. Stop it!
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:39amPaul’s statement of faith:
“I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, and I endeavor every day to follow Him in all I do and in every position I advocate.
It is God Who gave us life. As He is free, so are those He created in His image. Our rights to life and liberty are inalienable.
I’m running for President of the United States because I believe that our traditions and way of life are under attack from an out-of-control federal government and reckless politicians who show no regard for what our Founders entrusted to our protection.
America became the greatest nation in human history because a dedicated band of Patriots believed their God-given rights were worth fighting for, even if it meant challenging the world’s most powerful nation in what many deemed a “hopeless” cause.
Being free meant so much to our forefathers that they put everything on the line – and thousands sacrificed their lives – to give the promise of liberty to not only their children and grandchildren, but to generations they knew they would never even meet.
Their courage and determination guaranteed they would defy the odds and achieve victory.”
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/statement-of-faith/
Talking about faith, I think some Paul supporters on here should act more Christian towards other users. It doesn’t matter if they talked about your mama, you should show some respect, turn the other cheek, and strive to have a civil discourse with your fel
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 7:41am*and strive to have a civil discourse with your fellow Americans. Be the mature adult, hold your tongue, and think before you speak. Well, that’s what the Bible says.
Report Post »NewLife56
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:10pmGingrich\Rubio 2012
Has a nice ring to it
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:16pmAbsolute must read for Newt fans
http://www.landthieves.com/board/showthread.php?20533-So-you-think-you-know-Newt-Gingrich
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:17pmGingrich wrote the forward for a book “Creating a New Civilization” by Alvin and Heidi Tofler, who are “ex” Marxists
and “futurists” that Newt calls friends. “The Constitution of the United States needs to be reconsidered and
altered…..The system that served us so well must, in its turn, die and be replaced. ”
What was in Newt’s mind? That doesn’t sound like anything an American would support.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:19pmRubio has already made the Chris Cristy speech, I will not run, absolutely no chance, I would accept a VP nomination!
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:06pmMr. Gingrich admits to his errors, and in doing so, does not try to dissemble the truth . Admirable qualities that few possess. An excellent trait for any leader.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:17pmHis errors are fine with me — in the past — and I WON’T give him a chance to make more. America deserves better than Newt.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:28pm“See, when I smoked pot it was illegal, but not immoral. Now, it is illegal AND immoral. The law didn’t change, only the morality… That‘s why you get to go to jail and I don’t.” — Newt Gingrich, 8/8/1996, Wall Street Journal (source)
When asked if he would change or repeal the Patriot Act: “No, I would not change it. I’m not aware of any specific change it needs. And I’d look at strengthening it, because I think the dangers are literally that great.” — Newt Gingrich, 11/22/2011, CNN Debate (source)
Report Post »grayling646
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:34pmIf we deserve better than newt then we better not vote for Paul.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:46pmWe’ve had our first black president
I don’t want our first divorced president
I don’t want another progressive Republican president
Maybe it’s time for the first Republican/Libertarian president!
We need drastic changes and the president has a hard time getting 1/4 of what they want accomplished. I’d rather have 1/4th of Dr. Paul than 1/4 or Romney or Gingrich.
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:08pmgrayling, please inlighten us, show us why ron paul is so bad? Please show some evidence. All your bashing of ron paul is probably just a huffpo troll trying to gains support for obama, and it works because the people around here are a bunch of sheep. They want freedom but they are too manipulated to get out of their own ways. How hard is it to watch videos of ron paul on youtube. I have never 1 accurate negative thing people have wrote about ron paul here. I talked to my 63 year old captain that watches nothing but fox news, YOU GUYS KNOW NOTHING OF DR. PAUL. its so sad that people are too stupid for freedom these days. oh well socialism is cool i guess.
Report Post »just happy
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:01pmRon Paul is not Radical, he is just so Constitutionally Conservative and the rest of the candidates are so liberal , that he seems radical. Look at the constitution, learn what the FOUNDERS take was on the principles that they included and why, and then see who is closer to the original intent. Liberty is the best way for EVERYONE to have a better life. WE have this one chance to get our liberty back. We cannot allow a second rate republican to be elected, we need a real conservative in the white house. We will have liberty again but not without blood shed if we do not have a True constitutional conservative gain the presidency in 2012.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:11pmRon Paul in denial that the whole Muslim world is out to wipe us off the map and he doesn’t want any plan to prevent it, I called that idiotic! He denies the war on terror……… crime! The police can handle it, yea right! Ron Paul is dangerous!
Report Post »garyM
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:16pmjust happy
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:01pm
Ron Paul is not Radical
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and Obama loves America right
82dAirborne
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 9:52pmWhen will Ron Paul stop wasting other people’s money?? If you really look at it objectively his chance of becoming POTUS is somewhat less than zero. He could play a big role and help our nation in some other role. Treasury Secretary?
I am waiting for him to cut and run a “third party” campaign thus insuring Mr. Obama a second destructive term.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 9:58pmI sure hope he is not that stupid but listening to him talk about national security I wouldn’t put past him.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:04pmYou got a better solution instead??:
“Gingrich: I’d Do a Commercial With Al Gore”
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-XVYLc2HD8#!
unholy1
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:05pmThat would explain why he’s second in Iowa and third in NH. Maybe if the GOP was actually conservative they wouldn’t need to worry about a third-party run.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:05pmI have said the same thing. Dr. Paul’s policy on national security makes him ineligible for the position of president in my opinion. But I believe he is a patriot, and very intelligent and a cabinet post like treasury would be good for the country. Ok Paulies, come and tell me what a moron and how un-american I am. That is what you do best.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:07pmWe are being played for fools. The Democrats are working together and also voting in the primaries and supporting candidates who they know won’t win against Obama. You can sit there and say stuff about Ron Paul and we who support Ron Paul could easily do the same. The only reason Ron Paul isn’t getting the support he needs is that there is still so many ignorant sheep who will be deceived by the corrupt media and the establishment to choose who they have already chosen for them.
Report Post »Spread the word and vote for Dr. Paul in the primaries, I know I am and many more are too!
82dAirborne
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:09pmI don’t think he is stupid. I do think he is an isolationist. He sees a strike on Iran by us or America/Israel as meddling. I see it as a preemptive strike in self-defense.
I am no war monger. No one on the planet hates war more than someone who has been there- done that. Islamist extremists wouldn’t think twice about using a WMD on our country if they had the chance. I think we should do everything within our, considerable, power to prevent them from having that chance. It may not be successful. They may acquire nukes in spite of our best efforts. Doing nothing isn’t, shouldn’t – can’t be the best option.
Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:09pm82dAirborne, it’s exactly that mentality that brought us to the brink. When you continually compromise your principles year after year, you eventually become your original opponent.
Ron Paul is the real deal. You keep listening to the talking heads about electability, and now you parrot the same. Stick to what is right, and let the cards fall where they may.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:13pmThe establishment is scared to death of Ron Paul because the people are starting to hear real solutions to how to fix the country and not just continue our global ponzi scheme to destruction. Why does Dr. Paul not get media coverage? The majority of media outlets are Liberal rags and don’t give Ron Paul coverage because they know he is a huge threat, some polls have him head to head in a race with Obama and this was in the past, Obama’s approval has since gotten lower. Dr. Paul’s message also resonates with many ex Obama voters and independents. Dr. Paul could easily win against Obama but only we are in the way. The Democrats are already voting in the primaries and choosing the candidates they know can’t win against Obama, like Newt and Romney. They want these people on the ticket because they know they have stuff on them to trash them afterwards if they win the primary. Don’t throw away your vote, vote for Dr. Paul in the primaries. The media will be forced to give him airtime if he is put on the ticket. That is their worst nightmare.
Report Post »Scottsman
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:14pmI’ll keep donating to his campaign. He won’t be wasting my money.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:15pmRight On 82nd, You nailed it. In fact that is my main reason for NOT supporting Dr. Paul. If I cannot trust him to commit to his own party how can I trust him with anything else. Furthermore, he never really outlines any real solution to problems. He is Good at saying what is wrong, but he never gives specific plans or ideas. He is big with vague platitudes like, “ this whole idea that the government can stop crime”, or “we need to get back to sound money”… Blah blah blah… Nothing specific, no solutions! “We need to get back to the Constitution”… HOW DOCTOR?
Whether he runs as a third party or not, there are so many of his devotees who will write him in or just stay home, thus insuring 4 more years of Huessein and the total destruction of our Country. You hear them here all the time, saying how ideologically pure they are, when in fact they are petulant and naive.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:20pmEveryone is repeating media talking points re: Ron Paul’s foreign policy. Do you even know it? Have you ever studied it? I have — it a grand plan for America — balances the budget — keeps us safe — what’s the deal? I don’t understand.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:22pm82dAirborne
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:09pm
I don’t think he is stupid. I do think he is an isolationist. He sees a strike on Iran by us or America/Israel as meddling. I see it as a preemptive strike in self-defense.
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I see it as giving delivering to the enemy exactly what he wants on a silver platter, no less:
“Bin Laden: Goal is to bankrupt U.S.
November 01, 2004
“We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah,” bin Laden said in the transcript.
He said the mujahedeen fighters did the same thing to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, “using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers.”
http://articles.cnn.com/2004-11-01/world/binladen.tape_1_al-jazeera-qaeda-bin?_s=PM:WORLD
Looks to me like it’s working:
http://usdebtclock.org
When you go bankrupt, then you don’t have much choice to be anything other than isolationist!
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:28pmSeveral folks here accuse me of being a “parrot” or blind or worse – of compromising on principles. I am none of those. I do my best to think of the country. Our country. The whole country.
Not all but a lot of Dr. Paul’s supporters defend him on the basis of his so called defense of the constitution. They seem to forget or ignore that the most important part is the “common defense.” Without that nothing, and I do mean nothing, else is possible. There are fanatic seemingly crazy people who want to kill us and our way of life.
What is Ron Paul prepared to do to protect the country as well as the constitution??
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:29pmOokspay
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:15pm
Furthermore, he never really outlines any real solution to problems. He is Good at saying what is wrong, but he never gives specific plans or ideas.
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That’s false.
Ron Paul has said on many occasions that he wants to start using the United States Constitution once again.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:30pm@KidCharlemagne
Or you could destroy your county’s sworn enemies before they destroy us.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:55pm82dAirborne
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:30pm
@KidCharlemagne
Or you could destroy your county’s sworn enemies before they destroy us.
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How???:
“If so, the spike in Crude Oil prices could be massive depending on how long Iran is able to defend and engage in conflict with its adversaries at the Strait of Homruz.
The last time a conflict erupted in the region was the Iraq-Kuwait war in 1990 which resulted in Crude Oil prices almost doubling in no time on fears of reduced output. Increased global production, particularly from Saudi Arabia, was able to ease prices from its highs.
But this time, the situation is quite different. The Strait of Homruz transfers about 17-18mbpd of oil a day and there are no alternate routes to fully compensate for a disruption. The global inventory levels are down and physical markets are very tight.
As such, any military conflict in the area will easily spike crude prices to record highs. In fact, even fears of a military conflict will be enough to spook investors. And considering the amount of oil supply disruption such an action would cause combined with lower inventories, prices could easily double or triple by the time you blink”
http://www.commodityonline.com/news/Crude-oil-Iran-geopolitical-risks-the-new-threat-to-supplies-43649-3-1.html
If gas suddenly went up to $13 or $14 per gallon in the U.S. overnight, then what would that do to the US econo
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:00pmThe biggest enemy America has at the moment is the national debt.
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:12pmSo much ignorance…. so much time……
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:18pmwow this is sickening. No one knows anything around here. Ron Paul isnt an isolationist, he wants to go back to, and i know this sounds crazy WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS BELIEVED, which is to be a non-confritational country. Why do you think it got us so long to get involved in wars? We didnt want in WWI we were taken in by our governement and have been slaves ever since. Ron Paul is a Christian, he believes in god, he doesnt believe in going out and attacking people but believes in waging war when attacked. Ron paul talks about the founding fathers constantly but you would have to watch videos of him to know that, and none of you here have done that yet have endless wrong opinions about ron paul. I cant believe some of the things i hear about ron paul here, its just mind boggling, benjamin franklin was right, we only deserve our liberty if we can keep it, and boy are we lost, they have the conservatives hating thier only savior, dont you see how manipulated you are?
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:23pm@KidCharlemagne
Canada. The North Sea. Or God forbid our own country! No Ron Paul supporter I have ever spoken/posted with has ever described the solution to the problem of the millions of whack jobs that want us dead.
Gas & oil skyrocketed during WWII we got thru it. We pulled together for a common goal. It’s called survival.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:40pm82dAirborne
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:23pm
@KidCharlemagne
Canada. The North Sea.
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What about Canada or The North Sea?…..
Neither one of those two entities will stop the massive (and instantaneous) purchasing of crude oil contracts by hedge funds all over the world (which is actually what moves the price of a commodity like crude oil or gasoline, regardless of actual supply and demand of the commodity itself) on global futures markets once a global crude oil supply restriction panic sets in.
An overnight rise in the price of gasoline in the U.S. by $10 a gallon would be like stabbing yourself in the heart or slashing one of your own arteries just to see how long you can survive before you keel over dead.
I will guarantee you right now that none of the current crop of GOP candidates will EVER make the 1st move on Iran simply because they know the immensity of the collateral damage that will immediately spread throughout the U.S. economy.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:54am@any/all Ron Paul supporters:
How would he protect us? It doesn’t matter how rational you behave if others, armed with WMD’s, are ready, willing and ABLE to kill you! They are not rational. They don’t care about our constitution. They don’t care that we are trying to mind our own business. In their minds we are infidels and should – no – must convert or die.
If these fanatics did not exist I could vote for Dr. Paul in a minute. The fact is they do exist and he is woefully unprepared to deal with such a threat.
Report Post »sambachico
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 11:56am@OOK
“Right On 82nd, You nailed it. In fact that is my main reason for NOT supporting Dr. Paul. If I cannot trust him to commit to his own party how can I trust him with anything else.”
Ron Paul is committed to the Constitution, not a GD’ political party. Political parties stand on no principles, and simply blow the way of public opinion. Your attitude is exactly the reason why America is in such a damned mess. If he won’t commit to his own party? Who gives a crap about the party, it’s about preserving our constitution and liberties against a tyrannical government who wishes to rule over us. Government is to be the servant, not the master.
The political party apparatus is the statist machine. They both will destroy this country, the democrats are just doing it a bit faster.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/12/01/stewart-rhodes-interview-citizen-detention-act-senate-has-declared-war-on-american-people/
Report Post »Mike Templewind
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 2:56pmLess than 0% chance? ………….nevermind.
Report Post »semihardrock
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 9:52pmGingrich has a big ego and maybe a little crazy. He NEEDS a bigger ego than Obama and at this time in American history….WE NEED A LITTLE CRAZY to fix the stupid (Government.)
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:21pmNewt lies — often:
He lied the other day in a tv interview about when he was speaker he averaged a 90% conservative index rating. The
truth is, his CI ratings for his eight terms in office has fluctuated between fairly good to mediocre to abysmal:
96th Congress : 85 – 97th Congress: 77
Report Post »98th Congress : 74 – 99th Congress: 80
100th Congress: 80 – 101st Congress: 57
100nd Congress: 60 – 103rd Congress: 78
Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:35pm2012 Presidential Candidates
Friday, 11 November 2011 14:30
Ron Paul A+
Report Post »Rick Perry A
Michelle Bachmann A
Rick Santorum B-
Newt Gingrich C
Mitt Romney D-
Herman Cain NR
http://gunowners.org/2012presidential.htm
Young Patriot
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:03amso because u dont like him for a good reason, you would rather troll and hurt support for someone you know nothing about, hey just like everyone else here at the blaze.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 9:49pmI will take any one of them, in the following order:
Newt
Report Post »Romney
Paul
Santorem
Bachmann
Perry
and then that dude with the singing dingbats…
garyM
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:01pmWe’re close:
Report Post »Newt
Perry
Santorium
Backman
The senile guy
the guy with the singing dingbats
Scottsman
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:16pmI’ll take:
Paul
Report Post »Gingrich //sarc//
Romney //sarc//
Myself
Ookspay
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:22pmOh No Gary, now you did it. “The senile guy”. Prepare for the attack of the RPG’s ( Ron Paul Goons). I noticed you left off Romney, he is kind of forgettable… And I too like Perry’s stances on the positions, but the press and Obama would eat him alive!
Report Post »Young Patriot
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:22pmso, ookspay you must have some good dirt on ron paul to hate him so much, oh wait you dont because it doesnt excist, and your a manipulated sheep? oh man im sorry to hear that bro, good luck with your life of socialism.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:38pm@YoungPatriot, No dirt, not much of anything. He is a bit long in the tooth though, what will he be like 88 years old if he makes 2 terms? But hey, maybe that’s why he keeps talking about the Constitution so much, he was there when it was signed…
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 1:57am@ook
Report Post »That was really witty. I hope your smart enough not to put one your of your family members kid for your pic. Or maybe its your own kid?
Steelhead
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 9:45pmfamily values and Newt. Obama wins again in 2012
Report Post »garyM
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:00pmAnother Obama vote!
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 10:53am@RISEANDSHINE Thank you for your kindness.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 9:41pmSorry to say, I’m not too thrilled with any of them..actually getting a little disheartened over the whole thing :(
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 9:46pmThat‘s what the MSM and the Dem’s want. Don’t play their game.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 9:59pmObama vote huh!
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:25pmDon’t think so…I’m not that disheartened…I swear if Michelle was a guy I think you all would like her better. She’s pretty smart…she doesn’t have a sinful past…she pretty up with the Constitution…she’s a tax lawyer, good with money…very conservative…and to hear her talk about foriegn affairs..she’s not dillusional…whats the problem?
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 9:37pmNEWTS a big government man…a smooth talker.. been involved in huge land/property grabs as I understand it…was all for global warming scam… purportedly held or holds stock in a company set to make a killing off of ObamaCare.. Newt is smart..but Newt is out for Newt.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 9:43pmAnd apparently left two sick wives…whats up with that?
Report Post »garyM
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:08pmNewt is out for Newt hummmm..but we know everyone liked how the economy was under Clinton in the late 90′s while Newt was Speaker of the House and the Senate at that time was in control of the GOP. The only power Clinton had was the veto and he would have been overrode! But everyone gives Clinton the credit, on the other hand George W is blamed for the meltdown in 08 while the Senate and the house went under control of the democrats in 06 to 08, what could George W do, he could have vetoed but he would have been overrode! Just a little history mixed with civics lesson!
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:24pmNewt Gingrich’s record is anti-gun. He believes gun owners should be forced to submit themselves to thumbprint
scans of a biometric federal gun owner database… just to buy a firearm. I don‘t want Eric Holder’s Justice
Department to have a list of gun owners complete with biometric data like thumbprints, and I‘m sure you don’t either.
Please call Newt Gingrich right now at (678) 973-2306.
Report Post »Demand he retract his support for a national thumbprint database and apologize to gun owners.
jackwrench
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 9:35pmThis is off topic but please look: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27980
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:11pmEveryone needs to view the link that Jack has provided!!
Report Post »raspberrytea
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:37pmto: Jack
Report Post »thanks for the link. wow!!
Ookspay
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:49pmWhats up? Are you conspiracy freaks getting tired of posting 9-11 truther links? CFR, Bilderbergers? Give me a frickin’ break! Weak, lame but typical of the RPG’s (Ron Paul Goons)…
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:02pmOokspay
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 10:49pm
Whats up?
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Which liberal are you touting today, ookspay?…
Don’t you know that Cain dropped out of the race earlier?…so it looks like you’re down to just Newt and Romney now…
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:02pmThat links sure looks suspicious. I don’t believe it, but who knows.
I know ONE CONSPIRACY that is REAL and that’s United Nations Agenda 21 the progressive Republicans are behind (open borders, one world government stuff)
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:32pm@Kid, I jumped off the Cain train long before the Bimbo eruptions… Yes it is true, my opinions of the candidates evolve daily, as new information, statements and positions come to light. Such is the nature of primaries, Kid. In some ways I wish that I was as single minded as you Paul supporters, blind faith is easy. And you guys sure seem to have a lot of fun cut and pasting tired stuff from 2008, wheeeee.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on December 3, 2011 at 11:38pmVechorik…I agree…I read it and set it aside…I don’t buy it either.
ashestoashes
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 12:27am@OOKSPAY Did you even read the story encompassed in the link OOKSPAY?? It contains part of what we already know as truth..about the billions and trillions that the Prez spent.? You really should investigate on your own before discounting a story…just like being on that Cain train..granted…you were smart enough to finally bail…but had you done your own research ….maybe you wouldn’t have boarded it in the forst place.You remind me of this little ole man I know…he’s a staunch democrat..ant when I told him that Obama wrote 2 books in which he admitted to growing up in Insonesia and attending both a strict Madrassa of his choosing and a Catholic School…the little man refused to believe and said someone else wrote those books..lol
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 1:00amI checked out this site…looks legitimate to me…You do understand that anyone in the past who has tried to eliminate the federal reserve has been assassinated (John Kennedy) and the others had attempts on their lives and it seems like some other president was assassinated for it..Okay…Russia has been giving Ron Paul coverage…on the ticker tape..it was saying that Russia.the US and Nato plan strikes against Iran…farfetched? Also..maybe you don’t believe that they just enacted into law the fact that they can call anyone they want a terrorrist..no charge..no trial…you can just dissappear..I was alerted of this via a media channel last night..someone else heard it on xm
Report Post »http://www.infowars.com/indefinite-detention-bill-passes-senate-93-7/
ashestoashes
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 1:44amCorrection The ticker tape to the website didn’t read Russia US and UN planned strikes against Iran.. It read Israel.Us and the UN.. sorry… the website I believe is based out of Quebec Canada.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 1:53amWrong again…It was NATO, the US and Israel ..I thought the UN and Nato were one and the same..but they are not.. this may actually be new that happened a few days ago…didn’t Irans nuclear facility blow?
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on December 4, 2011 at 2:29amAshes….The thing I didn’t buy was the secret letter is all…Thank you for all you do…you’re a good person.
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