‘The Coming is Near’: New Eerie Iran Propaganda Vid Trumpets Imminent Return of 12th Imam
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“New evidence has emerged that the Iranian government sees the current unrest in the Middle East as a signal that the Mahdi–or Islamic messiah–is about to appear.”
So begins an ominous report by CBN’s Erick Stakelbeck detailing a propaganda video reportedly “approved at the highest levels of the Iranian government.“ That video explains ”all the signs are moving into place — and that Iran will soon help usher in the end times.”
Regular Beck viewers may know the Mahdi by another name, the twelfth imam — a term not lost to Stakelbeck, who writes thattThe new video “describes current events in the Middle East as a prelude to the arrival of the mythical twelfth Imam or Mahdi — the messiah figure who Islamic scriptures say will lead the armies of Islam to victory over all non-Muslims in the last days.”
Stakelbeck reports, and includes excerpts from the video called “The Coming is Near:”
Joel C. Rosenberg, interviewed in the CBN piece, has been a guest writer on The Blaze. As part of our series “Understanding Egypt,” he wrote:
The leaders in Tehran could not be more excited by the revolution now underway in Egypt and are praying the Mubarak regime collapses and the Muslim Brotherhood come to power. For them, such events would be dramatic new evidence that the End of Days has come, infidel Arab regimes are on the road to collapse, Western influence in the Mideast is declining, Israel is one step closer to being annihilated, and the Twelfth Imam is one step closer to arriving and establishing the worldwide Islamic kingdom known as the “caliphate.”
Back in February, Beck devoted part of his TV program to the idea of the twelfth imam:
Beck’s documentary, “Rumors of War,“ also details the scary beliefs of the ”twelvers:”
You can watch that here.
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SUEB
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:16pmGod takes away and inturn gives you something better. You don’t know what you had until you have lost it. Once it is lost it is up to you to bring it back and make it better……
Susan Harkins
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:13pmIn desperate times, people often turn to religion as a form of solice and hope. This is no different for the Muslims.
Sadly, this precisely how Communist/Facist/Nationalist States are formed. This would be considered: stage one of the infection.
Now I see why history seems to repeat itself. Seems like there are a whole lot of people that need a good slapping — a nice wake-up call, even in this country.
I hope we have time enough, to quash the roots of communism, before Soros gets a foot-hold. He has already deposited his gold and will flood it on the market as soon as the “Bernank” devalues the dollar to critical levels. Then Soros will take those dollars and buy up commercial real estate, manufacturing companies, raw materials resources, and media assets for pennies on the New World Dollar.
Seems like the political right needs to double-time, positioning itself for the GREAT REDISTRIBUTION, so that the left doesnt own all the economic chess pieces when the new game is afoot. I do hope so.
Report Post »democratgirl
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:28pmPeople should be turning to Christ because of what Christ did for each one of us on the cross. He doesn’t want us out of FEAR. He wants each of us out of LOVE. However, if you know ANYTHING about the Bible, you will know that prophecy has been fulfilled and believers will soon be raptured out of here. And, even if you do not believe in a pre-trib rapture, know that believers have the promise of eternity with God and Jesus FOREVERMORE. If that isn’t enough for someone, then their heart is in the wrong place.
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 4:45pmDEMOCRATGIRL
You sound content in your faith. That’s good. Do your best in maintaining that when things are bad around you,,,,that’s when you will need it the most.
Report Post »TheRevInCo
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 6:18pmDemocratgirl
Amen to You.
Report Post »temple62
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:13pmIt’s not just the 12vers we need to fear! They ALL should be feared, all are extremists, all went Jews and Christians dead!
Report Post »democratgirl
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:32pmThere is NOTHING to fear if you are a believer in Christ. Jesus paid even that price for each of us. Your life is meaningless if you do not have Jesus. It is MEANINGLESS because you have absolutely NOTHING to look forward to, do you? Without Jesus, you cannot enter Heaven. Without Jesus, you cannot be forgiven before God. Without Jesus, you are at Satan’s mercy, who has none. This life is but a footstep away from the next world. You get to choose which one you want to go to by whom you serve: Jesus or Satan. Sitting on the fence declares you serve Satan.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:32pmI am ready and prepared to meet my Lord and Saviour,if i am caught up in the rapture,wonderfull but if i die of any disease or murdered i am still prepared to meet Jesus,I once feared death but no longer,I will live a happy joyous life here in the country until i am called home,i do not fear man that can kill my body but i fear the one that could kill my body and soul, My sould belongs to God i am his child,i pray daily for this nation, for Israel, for Japan,for my family, my neighbors, my friends, and the Church i attend,Gods word is under attack,many false teachers and preachers today,but i realize we are in the last days,i am at peace,all is well with my soul,DemcoratGirl i love your posts,keep it coming,and by the way folks you can know for sure in your heart if you are a Christain and bound for Heaven!
Report Post »LeFaux Jew
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 5:25pm@DemocratGirl,
Whats wrong with trusting in Jesus’s God (the saviour of all men)?
Report Post »There are alot of people out there that believe in the same God Jesus believed in.
MichiganPatriot
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:08pmDo you think Charlie Sheen might be the 12th Imam…he is Winning so I just put two and two together! How is that for a spin, doubt anyone of you seen that one coming!
Report Post »Zeus In A Speedo
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:29pmLOL…I agree; Tiger Blood and Adoninis DNA, that’s what the Mahdi is made of. Charlie Sheen will be “coming like a Thief in the Night.”
Report Post »lightbeam
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:05pmAdd your comments
Report Post »lightbeam
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 5:44pmCLEMV,
It is impossible, for the finite mind of the earthly creature, to explain what an Ifinite Creator has done and is doing, in the time frame known as Human History. We do have the Holy Bible given to us all from God.
Report Post »Trying to figure these things out for yourself will leave you frustrated or on the brink of insanity. We must trust what He says to us all in His Word. Ultimately He loves you. If my life on earth gives me bad or gives me good; it is all in the hand of the Lord. The difficult part to accept is that even the bad things in this life are working together for our own good, according to God, IF, you have humbled yourself, understood that you are a sinner in need of a Savior, and called upon the name of Jesus Christ to forgive your sins, and therefore, if sincere, you are permanently adopted into God’s family of believers, …..’For by Grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast’…..seriously CLEMV…if you are truly seeking answers, and not just throwing dust clouds, then please consider these things once again.
TheRevInCo
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 6:09pmWell said LightBeam. Amen to You.
Report Post »awall1231
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:59pmi say we glass them all and put up a wamart in its place
Report Post »deadpammy
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:31pm2nd that :)
Report Post »Edct
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:56pmThe one that will appear will be Jesus Christ and then these infidel terrorist muslim murderers will go hell with their satanic leader imam forever.
Report Post »WeTheHomers
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:53pmI‘m betting Israel is about ready to take out Iran’s nuclear sites any time now. I doubt they will wait for Iran to strke first knowing those idiots want to enage in nuclear war and place little value in their own existence.They will most likely use conventional weapons but worry Iran may still be able to retaliate with nukes.
Just paid $4.50 a gallon for diesel fuel yesterday, wonder how much higher it will get once WW3 begins.
Report Post »Infidel and Proud
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:41pmislam Is Lame.
the 12th iman will be THE anti-christ but as we all know, he looses – EPIC FAIL !
what a bunch of evil primitive and stupid savages….
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:36pmHaven’t Christians been waiting for the return of Jesus for about 2000 years now? Why do Christians get to have their little prophecy but not Muslims?
Report Post »Katayno
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:35pmBecause much of the Koran is a pledgerization of the BIBLE. Koran written 700 years after Bible.
Report Post »We believe end times will come, eventually, but Islam wants to force here FAST. This will happen when they all get on the same page and go after Israel.
watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 9:04pmAll religions can have their own prophesies—- the question is which one is the only one that has had all of them come true up to the point we are in history? Jesus was foretold throughout the OT and fulfilled every prophecy about his birth, life, death, and resurrection. Muhammad was never prophesied about before His birth, not even once. Has any other prophesy in the Qu’ran come true? Just one is all I ask. The prophesy of Jesus about the destruction of the temple that occurred in 70 AD was prophesied and just as Jesus said not one stone would be left on another. True to form the Romans took every stone off of the other to acquire the gold in between them. Just one I could use.
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:20pmWhat’s that Wailing Wall/Western Wall then? Are the Jews mistaken about that?
Report Post »captainaubrey
Posted on March 30, 2011 at 12:12pmQuestion: What’s a pledgerization?
Report Post »captainaubrey
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:35pmsnore… you mean the Mahdi who together with Jesus will usher in an era of peace and prosperity to the world? That’s right all of you who know nothing of the Mahdi other that what Glenn Beck tells you; Islamic tradition and the Koran predict the Mahdi and Jesus together will usher in an era of peace and prosperity to the world. Don’t believe everything you see on TV.
Report Post »TheRevInCo
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:22pmJust an FYI, the jesus of the koran is NOT the Jesus of the BIBLE.
Report Post »clemV
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:00pmTHEREVINCO,
and you know this how?
Report Post »LarryofArabia
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:45pmThere is no other, there is only Jesus. To suggest such a thing is blasphamy.
Report Post »TheRevInCo
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 5:39pmThe koran teaches that jesus is a prophet just like mohammad, while the Bible teaches that Jesus is God.
Report Post »Paul -Indiana
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 6:48pmThe Muslims believe that Jesus will return as a Muslim. Fat chance.
Report Post »captainaubrey
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 7:07amOf course he is you moron…. his status among Muslims is different, they don’t accept his divinity, but give him status as a major prophet.
Report Post »clemV
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:34pmNot sure why my comments aren’t appearing, but here goes again:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread602571/pg1
How many people did God kill in the bible?
The loving and merciful god of the bible left a fair amount of documentation about how many people he personally killed. Some of it must be intuited as the accounts don’t give specific figures. Someone provided a figure using rough estimates and a fair breakdown on this web page and arrived at a figure of 33,041,220 people. This is a high estimate and others estimate a much lower figure of 2.8 million.
How many people did Satan kill in the bible?
It appears that Satan only killed 10 people: the seven sons and three daughters of Job. And he only does this because god allowed it as part of a bet!. Technically the blood is on god’s hands for these as well.
Who, how, why did god kill people in the bible?
Lot’s wife for looking back- Gen.19:26
Er who was “wicked in the sight of the Lord”- Gen.38:7, 1 Chr.2:3,
Onan for spilling his seed- Gen.38:10,
Pharaoh and 600 chariot captains (plus his entire army) – Ex.14:8
For dancing naked around Aaron’s golden calf- Ex.32:27-28, 35,
Aaron’s sons for offering strange fire before the Lord- Lev.10:1-3, Num.3:4, 26:61
A blasphemer- Lev.24:10-23
A man who picked up sticks on the Sabbath- Num.15:32-36,
Korah, Dathan, and Abiram (and their families)- Num.16:27,
Burned to death for offering incense- Num.16:35, 26:10,
For complaining- Num.16:49,
For “committing whoredom with the daughters of Moab” – Num.25:9,
Midianite massacre (32,000 virgins were kept alive)- Num.31:1-35,
God tells Joshua to stoned to death Achan (and his family) for taking the accursed thing.- Joshua 7:10-12, 24-26,
God tells Joshua to attack Ai and do what he did to Jericho (kill everyone).- Joshua 8:1-25,
Joshua kills 5 kings and hangs their dead bodies on trees- Joshua 10:24-26
God delivered Canaanites and Perizzites- Judges 1:4
Ehud delivers a message from God: a knife into the king’s belly- Jg.3:15-22,
God delivered Moabites- Jg.3:28-29,
God forces Midianite soldiers to kill each other.- Jg.7:2-22, 8:10,
The Spirit of the Lord comes on Samson- Jg.14:19,
The Spirit of the Lord comes mightily on Samson- Jg.15:14-15,
Samson’s God-assisted act of terrorism- Jg.16:27-30,
“The Lord smote Benjamin”- Jg.20:35-37,
More Benjamites- Jg.20:44-46
For looking into the ark of the Lord- 1 Sam.6:19
God delivered Philistines- 1 Sam.14:12
Samuel (at God’s command) hacks Agag to death- 1 Sam.15:32-33
“The Lord smote Nabal.”- 1 Sam.25:38
Uzzah for trying to keep the ark from falling- 2 Sam.6:6-7, 1 Chr.13:9-10
David and Bathsheba’s baby boy- 2 Sam.12:14-18
Seven sons of Saul hung up before the Lord- 2 Sam.21:6-9
From plague as punishment for David’s census (men only; probably 200,000 if including women and children)- 2 Sam.24:15, 1 Chr.21:14
A prophet for believing another prophet’s lie- 1 Kg.13:1-24
Religious leaders killed in prayer contest- 1 Kg.18:22-40
God delivers the Syrians into the Israelites’ hands- 1 Kg.20:28-29
God makes a wall fall on Syrian soldiers- 1 Kg.20:30
God sent a lion to eat a man for not killing a prophet- 1 Kg.20:35-36
Ahaziah is killed for talking to the wrong god.- 2 Kg.1:2-4, 17, 2 Chr.22:7-9
Burned to death by God- 2 Kg.1:9-12
God sends two bears to kill children for making fun of Elisha’s bald head- 2 Kg.2:23-24
Trampled to death for disbelieving Elijah- 2 Kg.7:17-20
Jezebel- 2 Kg.9:33-37
God sent lions to kill “some” foreigners – 2 Kg.17:25-26
Sleeping Assyrian soldiers- 2 Kg.19:35, Is.37:36
Saul- 1 Chr.10:14
God delivers Israel into the hands of Judah- 2 Chr.13:15-17
Jeroboam- 2 Chr.13:20
“The Lord smote the Ethiopians.”- 2 Chr.14:9-14
God kills Jehoram by making his bowels fall out- 2 Chr.21:14-19
Judean soldiers- 2 Chr.28:6
Ezekiel’s wife- Ezek.24:15-18
Ananias and Sapphira- Acts 5:1-10
Herod- Acts 12:23
It seems that YHWH was a veritable killing machine. We need to have a completely different discussion about religion(s)…
Jeffersonian in CA
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:42pmDo you have a point ??? other than taking up space, that is.
Report Post »clemV
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:51pmyou must have missed the last line in my post, “We need to have a completely different discussion about religion(s)…”
If we all keep running around pointing our righteous religious fingers at each other- do you really think the ‘wars & rumors of wars’ will ever stop?
The pharmaceutical system is a system meant to put your back up against the wall and make you a debt slave of some sort. Same with:
The prison system
The college loan system
The credit system
The mortgage system
The tax system
and finally…
The religious system
AND the MSM just promotes the jargon that starts these never ending wars.
I was a born and bread Christian UNTIL I READ THE BIBLE FOR MYSELF. (See original post for Biblical contradictions i.e. murder)
So there’s my point. Did you have a point or just being a smart @$$?
Report Post »ShyMan
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:51pmTheologyonline.com if you want to really discuss God and bible.
Report Post »Blacktooth
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:52pmWe were created by our God.
Report Post »Our existence is dependant upon his good will. We are not guaranteed life, but are lovingly given life by our God, YHWH.
God has the right to bless who he wants to, and to end the life of whoever he wants to.
If you want to fight against his Almightiness, the go ahead and see where it gets you.
He does not want anyone to die, but desires all to attain to repentance and live. To live forever in God’s kingdom with His Son Jesus as the appointed King.
lightbeam
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:01pmLet’s say your estimate is correct, God is responsible for about 20 to 30 million deaths over a minimum of 5 to 10 centuries.
Do you know how many of his own Chinese people that Mau-Tse Tung either murdered or let them starve to death in less than three decades? The more moderate estimates are about 70 Million. Mao decided to centralize the food storage of corn for about 5 years. The starvation rate increase two-fold over each year. Finally, one of his advisors suggested that maybe the idea was not going to work. Mao agreed and changed the system somewhat. But, 31 million people starved to death. Hmmmm.
Then there is Vladamir Lenin, Stalin, Hitler all who have a combined total over 200 million, all within a period of 60 years.
If what I say is true, then would it be fair to say that man apparently has a far greater propensity to kill than God?
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:06pmClemv
Actually, the only ones doing the finger pointing are the ones TRYING to slam those who have a Christian faith…..why you trying to turn that fact around?
Report Post »BI-WINNING
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:16pmThat is why the comments aren’t appearing. There is a 500-word limit when it doesn’t even pertain to the topic.
Report Post »PimpBallWizard
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:21pm@CLEMV – You left out one massive event too – the global flood, where out of the world’s population, only 8 people survived.
One thing you forgot, or maybe that you never knew is that God is sovereign. The lives he extinguished are the lives he gave – they were his to take.
If reading the Bible caused you to cease being a Christian, then you must have read it wrong.
JJCon
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:24pm“Read the Bible for yourself” … sure you did. Yet, you blindly copy-&-paste talking points that ignore everything else in the Bible. There is no way a logical person could reach your conclusion on your own based on just reading the Bible. You’re regurgitating pure ignorance.
Report Post »clemV
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:31pmSILENTWATCHER,
I‘m not the one calling to turn the Middle East into glass or the one saying that the prez is the antichrist or the one who believes in blind faith or the one who’s said “these infidel terrorist muslim murderers will go hell with their satanic leader imam forever.” You’d do better attacking the real anger in the forum.
BTW If you could stay on topic we might be able to address what i’ve brought up.
Report Post »clemV
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:34pmBIWINNING,
Couldn’t really post my point without the Biblical verses in there. Proof is often asked for when controversial statements are made and resources are usually appreciated. Thanks for the heads up though, next time I’ll have a better idea of why that may occur.
Report Post »Ironeagle
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:38pmYou have a problem with authority. “God is in heaven and He does whatever He pleases (Ps 115:3).”
Report Post »clemV
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:40pmPIMPBALLWIZARD,
you said, “If reading the Bible caused you to cease being a Christian, then you must have read it wrong.”
Remember wonderful king david you were taught about in sunday school? I implore you to go back and read it again if you haven’t for yourself.
In the story David isn‘t only an adulterer in his old ’wise’ age, but extremely vidictive. He promised one man on the side of the road he wouldn’t kill him for slandering his household, BUT on David’s deathbed, David tells one of his guards to kill the man. The Bible says that David says, “you go forth and smite him because i promised him that i wouldn’t so after I die go forth and kill him”(paraphrase).
This is only ONE story with an ‘alternate’ ending that i was never taught about.
BTW, since you mentioned the story of the flood; i’ll mention the Epic of Gilgamesh – a story that predates the Noah story by over 1000 years!!
Sorry, blind faith isn’t enough anymore. I believe in God our creator, but not how he’s presented in the Bible.
Report Post »clemV
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:45pmJICON,
The talking points in the OP are just that, talking points. Can we have a discussion on the contradictions in OUR faith? You don’t have to believe me about reading the bible, it’s ok – what you must believe is that the answers are out there and the bible doesn’t have all of them..
Ask the Muslims who’d vehemently defend their faith, as we do, about the Jinn (aka shooting stars). If the Muslims truly believed that ALL TRUTH was in the Koran, they’d be in for a pretty rough life, as you would be with your bible.
I prayed before reading the Bible every time asking for forgiveness and understanding while reading HIS word. He came through, but not how you’d expect. He made me ask many, many questions that have diverted me away from the Main Stream Religion of Christianity. Take it or leave it, but I find this convo part of my duty spreading HIS word….
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:15pmClem I‘m not the one calling to turn the Middle East into glass or the one saying that the prez is the antichrist or the one who believes in blind faith or the one who’s said “these infidel terrorist muslim murderers will go hell with their satanic leader imam forever.” You’d do better attacking the real anger in the forum.
BTW If you could stay on topic we might be able to address what i’ve brought up.”
I’ve never called for the Middle East to be turned to glass,,,never once said that. Also, I never once said the Pres was the anti-Christ….never even hinted at it.
And I’m not going to attack anyone for their ideals,,,,,that’s their perogative. I will get strong when, however, someone attacks mine.
As far as topics are concerned, I will point thoughts that I wish to,,,,,,you the post police?
Report Post »chips1
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 4:08pmJudging from your post, He missed one and will come back.
Report Post »tierrah
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 5:12pm@clemV: I too had trouble with the seemingly contradictions of the Old Testament but thank goodness have made peace with it all. For me, the most important message in the Bible is found in the New Testament which is our new covenant or contract (so to speak) with God. This is my first post discussing my religious beliefs so please bear with me and forgive any unintentional offense. In my opinion, most folks have already arrived at a decision and its difficult for each side to be objective to the others’ point of view. The theme of the New Testament is LOVE illustrated immeasurably by the willing sacrifice of Jesus for the sins of the world. For me to understand the God of the Old Testament, I view Him as He describes Himself in those passages – He is all things including vengeance and a jealous God. He cannot abide sin and we are separated from him by sin which is why the sacrifice of Jesus was necessary. I see God as a superior spirit with more dimensions than anyone could ever comprehend. When I read of the slaughter in the Old Testament, I tell myself that He can see into the hearts of man thus knows what lies therein. He had a plan and a purpose when He allowed the killings and Wars in His name and who am I to question His reasons? On a lighter note, at least He doesn’t portray Himself like our politicians do … He, at least, reveals all sides to us, even the attributes that we consider to be unkind or cruel. It all starts with faith and if you believe in a supreme God, then you can accept that He is all knowing – “omni-everthing”. Thanks for allowing me to present my side. You make very sound objections – the same ones that most folks make when searching for the truth.
Report Post »WhiteFang
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 5:39pmtierrah,
Report Post »Nicely put, a very thoughtful comment.
WhiteFang
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 5:54pmThe True God described himself to Moses and by reading God’s description we can learn some of his personality and his purposes toward mankind.
Exodus 34:4 Accordingly Moses carved out two tablets of stone like the first ones and got up early in the morning and went on up into Mount Si´nai, just as Jehovah had commanded him, and he was taking the two tablets of stone in his hand. 5 And Jehovah proceeded to come down in the cloud and station himself with him there and declare the name of Jehovah. 6 And Jehovah went passing by before his face and declaring: “Jehovah, Jehovah, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abundant in loving-kindness and truth, 7 preserving loving-kindness for thousands, pardoning error and transgression and sin, but by no means will he give exemption from punishment, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons and upon grandsons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation.”
8 Moses at once hurried to bow low to the earth and prostrate himself. 9 Then he said: “If, now, I have found favor in your eyes, O Jehovah, let Jehovah, please, go along in the midst of us, because it is a stiff-necked people, and you have to forgive our error and our sin, and you must take us as your possession.” 10 In turn he said: “Here I am concluding a covenant: Before all your people I shall do wonderful things that have never been created in all the earth or among all the nations; and all the people in the midst of whom you are will indeed see the work of Jehovah, because it is a fear-inspiring thing that I am doing with you.
Report Post »tierrah
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 6:22pm@Whitefang: Thanks for your support. I hesitated to post anything because two subjects always raise the blood pressure of the contenders – religion and politics. There were so many thoughts left out of my post because it’s difficult, for me anyway, to capsulize viewpoints on such a broad and intrinsic subject as God. Who, since the beginning of time, EVER understood the nature of God? Does anyone here have the knowledge to comprehend more than 3 dimensions or the concept of infinity? We’re all small and narrow minded when it comes to understanding the Universe, the laws that sustain it and all that it contains. Better stop now before I really get on a soapbox. Thanks again for your encouraging comments.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 6:45pmClem, you say: “I was a born and bread Christian UNTIL I READ THE BIBLE FOR MYSELF.”
How does one gain faith and trust in Jesus Christ (definition of becoming a Christian) without reading the Word?
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 8:33pm@ CLEMV……………….Noah’s story was orally transmitted from Noah on down as is the Jewish custom. Gilgamesh predated nothing and proves nothing other than the fact that Noah’s distant ancestors new of the same facts and wrote the story down !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 8:37pm@ CLEMV……….Just because you prayed doesn‘t mean you can’t or haven’t been deceived when you deliberately twist the scriptures and the meanings therein. Jesus always used the scriptures when dealing with errors, Satan, controversies, and sin. Your understanding is dangerous to you as scripture itself says that all scripture is God-breathed and profitable for rebuking, correcting, training, and teaching so that the man of God may be THOROUGHLY equipped for every good work.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 8:56pmI find that the reason many people struggle with God and His word is that they think they are the Judge of Him and His ways not the other way around. The first and main purpose of all creation is that God in all His character, as expressed in the word, be expressed in fullness and and completeness. Thus He is a God of Love, but also of Justice, a God of Mercy, but also of wrath, a Gentle and Humble God and a conquering King and warrior. Look at the expression of Jesus in the Gospels as a sacrificed lamb, a suffering servant, a mocked king, a beaten savior, a crucified son. But in Revelation as Alpha and Omega, King of Kings, Treading out the wine press of the wrath of God, Conqueror and Ultimate Ruler. That is first and foremost the purpose of creation. Our part of that creation is to submit to him in love as the Almighty who determines the “rules”, who believes in faith that he loves us and works all things for the good of those who love Him, and that we are to glorify Him for all His attributes as revealed in scripture. So that whether someone willful loves and follows and so glorifies Him for His mercy and grace or someone questions and rebels and so glorifies His justice all creation serves to the end of glorifying His character and attributes. So then the stories of the OT were written down to reveal certain spiritual realities about good and evil Jesus and Satan. So when you see the “killing” going on then understand as the author and giver of life, God has the right to take that life as is the case for every Human being born. All will and do die and this is by the command of God for the wages of sin. So every second that you live, every breathe is the merciful gift of God who owes you no sense of your fairness, but could justly extinguish yours, mine or anyone else life as the result of our (all humanity) sin. In this you accuse Him who has been exceedingly gracious and patient of wrong doing and evil to the end that you sit in Judgment of Him and His ways not understanding that it is you and all of us that will answer to the only Judge. I pray you will search more for a clear and accurate understanding of God’s word.
Report Post »mill
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 9:33pmobviously he’s been naughty. some little book written by somebody… somewhere..at some point in time… sure has you folks tearing at each other’s throats.\ if this is what religion is all about, the nasty crappy remarks and innuendos, heaven save from it.
“i know better than you do, no you don’t, you’re stupid, no you are blahblahblahblah” take your petty little religion and shove it
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 9:41pm@ MILL………………ehemmm and you just did what??? When a criminal cries that isn’t lawful he becomes a walking contradiction.
Report Post »Ozymandias
Posted on March 30, 2011 at 12:08amThis man would lay charges against his creator. It is an impressive list but those who comprise the list were “evil in the sight of the Lord.” When one can create a universe, with mechanics to govern it then maybe they might have a footstool to challenge God, however, in the absence of such wisdom, power, and judgment man’s best attempts are futile.
Report Post »Brian GC
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:12pmYour early Christian education obviously did not cover the characteristics of Divine justice. You speak from a human perspective which has made God in its own image, where selfishness and greed, pride and self-righteousness are the normal and acceptable social graces.
Report Post »Nor have you studied the pervasive and destructive effects of these ‘sins’.
God has and yet you presume to condemn him.
Christ died to meet the demands of both God’s love and his justice, yours is only to accept that gift.
clearlysuspect
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 5:47pmI think we’re in trouble here. One of the most dangerous governments on the planet is expressing their intentions to wipe Israel and the USA off the map and form a global caliphate so they can impose Shariah law on the planet and the only thing people here want to do is argue about whether Care Bears are better than Unicorns or whatever other mythical beings they prefer.
You guys keep praying and waiting for your respective messiah’s to appear! I’ll be reloading!
Report Post »Drum Man
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:33pmIt would have made more sense to invade Iran than Lybia… I’d prefer bringing them all home and secure our borders.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:19pmand brace for WWIII……..
Report Post »Gypsy123
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:33pmWow if this comes true heads will roll
Report Post »MeteoricLimbo
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:31pmcuriouser and curiouser
Report Post »inexiletill2012
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:29pmI guess the first 11 couldn’t get it done……..12th time’s a charm
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:23pmsounds like someone needs their medication.or a brain scan at the least.
Report Post »JohnQTaxpayer
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:05pmI am more worried about the nuclear accident in Japan
How could you all forget the last time there was a nuclear accident in Japan
The outcome was GODIZILLIA
Report Post »and he can surely kicks the 12THS ASS
Jeffersonian in CA
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:21pmRead the book or REVELATIONS… it isn’t the Monkey in Iran we need to fear…
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:44pmnope.
ALL messianic/end time nutbags are cause for concern. They are ALL going to be quite let down when nobody comes back from the dead and nobody comes out of 1300 years of hiding to kill the people they don’t like.
Some just might want to help “events” unfold by killing a whole bunch of people on their own.
You religious nuts can kill each other all you want. Just leave us sane folks out of it.
This would be humorous if nukes weren’t involved.
Report Post »Anti_Spock
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:46pmJEFFERSON,
Maybe you should quote your namesake more often: “Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity.”
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782.
Now I have no clue if Jefferson was a Christian or Agnostic (arguments can be made on both sides), he certainly didn’t build his ideology out of the Bible. Let alone the book of revelations.
I hate to say it, but after reading several comments on this thread, moderate Christians are not really all that different from moderate Muslims. It is the extremes on both ends that are praying for fulfillment of their scriptures to its bloody end.
Life imitates art in more ways than one. Question is will the super-majority of moderates allow the extreme-minority of nutjobs from both spectrums to sink all of mankind? Now thats the 64 trillion dollar question.
Mr Spock
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 4:00pm@Anti_Spock
Report Post »So what have I done to upset you? Seriously, the irony is I agree with you and your observations on Jefferson. No-one has a monopoly on the nutjobs of this world – just hope you’re right that we outnumber them.
Anti_Spock
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 4:45pmMR SPOCK,
This is cool. We’re like matter and anti-matter… better not get too close. I’ll be watching you… from cyberspace.
BTW, Leonard Nimoy is great. It’s just that Spock is the ideal socialist. I could cite example after example, but my favorite is when he was dying in engineering and he tells Kirk “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.” (or something like that… I don’t have the exact quote in front of me). That comment is anti-nature. It’s anti-capitalist. Nature designs winners and losers to ensure life continues. With nature, it’s nothing personal, its just business. Same is routinely said about Capitalism.
Report Post »Mr Spock
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 2:08am@Anti-Spock
Report Post »Understood. I chose the name because (I hope) I try to post logical rather than emotional comments. I’ll be watching you.
clearlysuspect
Posted on November 22, 2011 at 6:00pm@ Anti-Spock
Here here. Best thing said in this forum thus far! I’ll be the first to admit that I have felt much prejudice toward Muslims and Islam based on actions of extreme Islamist. The same can be said of me for Christians. Recently I’ve actually found a few things, mind you a “few,” in Shariah Compliant Fiance that I actually tend to agree with. Such things as Naked Short Selling and Credit Default Swaps would never have happened under Shariah Compliant Finance due to the immorality in selling that which one does not own and that in CDS’s, the investor does not share in the risk of the endeavor. There are many things that our cultures can learn from each other if we do not end up killing each other first.
Report Post »i want the truth
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:21pmOur troops need to get out of Lybia!! We should be protecting Israel!! But this Administration is filled with ant-jewish people!! His Foreign Policy person is S. Powers married to Cass Sunstein. She hates the Jews!! Like Beck said, Are we on the wrong side, helping are enemies?
I am praying for the Jews and for those that want to create violence! I guess this is all in the Bible.
Thank God I have my Lord and Savior to watch over me and my family!!
EqualJustice
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:20pmAHH NON. there ya go again. Why are you are so angry and nasty? DEVILISH traits there, DUDE. BO is NOT your savior, contrary to what you’ve been told in Alinsky class while downing kool aid! :) AHH you make me laugh!
Report Post »PimpBallWizard
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:28pm@ non-sequiter
“Dude didn’t stop the holocaust and lets children starve to death, I don’t think he gives diddly squat about your family tbqh.”
Men have wrought evil on other men since the beginning of time. Any system created by men is corrupt – it is our nature.
Report Post »The holocaust did stop – what‘s to say God didn’t move the liberators of the death camps?
Of course, I know your comments are not in search of knowledge or enlightenment, you simply seek to mock. I’ll see you on judgement day.
TeaBeliever
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:54pmAmen. Pray for Isreal. Pray for Glenn Beck. Pray for America.
Report Post »delhoghe
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 6:45pmCass Sunstein is a Judean , I doubt he lets his wife hate on Israel and I doubt if she wants to. I dont care about politics , but let’s keep it real . IWTT
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 7:34pmTo accept that there is evil is to accept that there is good according to a moral law. To accept that there is a moral law that applies to all of mankind admits there must be a transcendent law giver. Otherwise, no basis for which claiming value to a moral code can be made. It is no different to currency that has no real basis for its value (fiat currency) will eventually create more and more debt and the creation of more and more currency eventually leading to a collapse if that currency is not backed by something that gives it inherent value. In the same way moral objections cannot have a basis or foundation rooted in substance or value apart from a law giver that is extrinsic to and transcendent above our existence.
Report Post »Jeffersonian in CA
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:18pmStill waiting for the Fourth estate…. anyone out there CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NPR (ha!) ?
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:15pmDespite their own internal troubles, Iran isn’t “letting this crisis go to waste”…….Iran will greatly increase their efforts to de-stabilize the Middle East and Israel is the number one target…….get ready……
Report Post »Country
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:12pmThe Imam is not real, Satan the anti-Christ is.
Report Post »Country
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:19pmThe 12th Imam is not real I mean. When the anti-Christ is here, he is here to pretend to be Christ, not behead us.
Report Post »flasho
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:25pm12th Imam is real. He lives in the white house.
GODSAMERICA
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:32pmsatan is not the anti-christ, the anti-christ is satan’s version of Jesus.
Report Post »Country
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:23pmSatan will be the anti-Christ when he comes at the end times. 2 Thes 2:3,4. This does not describe the 12th Imam beheading Christians. Joel R. does not read the same prophecy I read.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:51pmWell thats good. Hopefully you checked the right book out of the library. Best of luck you.
Report Post »RushEcho dot org
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 6:53pmYou are correct. The Creator is the only true God.
Report Post »Evil is real; Denying evil doesn’t help anything.
Zeus In A Speedo
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 10:17pmCountry…
Read Revelations toward the end, I believe it says “those who have been beheaded for not accepting the mark on their hand or forehead” shall be part of God’s New Kingdom (sorry, I know these are not the exact words..I do not have Bible right in front of me.)
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:43amSatan and the Anti-Christ are quite different. They are not the same.
Report Post »Country
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:50amFor those of you who think Satan who will pretend to be Christ “the anti Christ” will come and kill Christians, how in the world can he make Christians worship him by beheading them? Many Christians are going to think Satan is Christ because they do not understand the propehcies. Read 2 Thes 2:3,4. with understanding. Also understand why half of the Christians did not make it in Matt 25, the parable of the 10 virgins. If you worship Satan you will be an unfaithful bride.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
The “falling away,” if you do not understand that, you might fall away from your first love, Christ and worship the anti-Christ, Satan. Time is running our so you betta figure it out soon.
As for this “Mahdi,” I believe there will be a time when some Muslim countries will attack Israel and bring the entire world‘s economy to it’s knee. When that happens, the whole world will welcome in George Soros’ “new global financial order,” http://www.theblaze.com/stories/looming-soros-conference-will-focus-on-rearranging-global-financial-order/
Revelation 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Revelation 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Revelation 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
“All the world wondered after the beast” yes, after a world economic collapes, the world will welcome in the the One World Government.
Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
Are you going to be deceived and fall for this trick? Or are you gonna prepare?
As for Rev 20:4, Who did John see around the Thorn of God? 24 elders, John the Baptist comes to mind. Look at Rev 4:4 “And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.”
Report Post »Country
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 11:26amOpps, I meant throne of God.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:11pmI don’t know about no 12th Imam, but Jesus Christ is already here, hovering over the earth in spaceship.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:21pm“I don’t know about NO 12 Imam….”?
What government school did you attend?
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 6:31pmIs that the best you’ve got?
I speak with poor grammar regularly, and with proper grammar when I want to.
Are you going to challenge an english honors graduate on proper grammar?
Ok. Let’s begin, grasshopper!
Rule 7. When you are quoting something that has a spelling or grammar mistake or presents material in a confusing way, insert the term sic in italics and enclose it in brackets. Sic means, “This is the way the original
material was.”
Example: She wrote, “I would rather die then [sic] be seen wearing the same outfit as my sister.”
Should be than, not then.
You also used one more period then you should have in your Ellipsis.
Silence.
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 8:44pmSome english major you are mace???? You wrote:
“You also used one more period then [sic] you [sic] should have in your Ellipsis.”
Multiple mistakes, then instead of than, and poor sentence construction. Should read:
You also used too many periods in your Ellipsis.
You are an egghead, shaved as well, I bet. I wonder, did you get a real degree, or have you forgotten your lessons? Did you get your 30 pieces of silver to come here today???
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 10:22pmUncle Crusty
I misspelled a commonly misspelled word, “than vs. then”, so common that it was used in an example that I copied and pasted DIRECTLY from an english grammar website.
Why would you put [sic] after the word “you” when it was used properly?
If you we’re such an automatic grammar checker, then you wouldn’t have incorrectly put [sic] after the word “you”, and you would’ve noticed that I incorrectly capitalized the word “ellipsis”.
In what form of the english language is “You also used one more period then you should have in your Ellipsis.” poor sentence structure?
Are you illiterate?
Brevity is not what defines poor vs. excellent sentence structure!
It’s a matter of preference! I don’t have to make it shorter or more concise for your preference, it’s my prerogative.
The use of “too many” rather THAN “one more than you should have” is irrelevant and inconsequential!
I would even venture to say that you’re being extremely petty and petulent like an adolescent yearning to best a college graduate.
I bet my degree is more real THAN your imaginary one.
I haven’t forgotten any of my lessons, I’m human, I make mistakes.
I simply forgot that when in a public forum such as this, I should expect to encounter the most juvenile insults and petulent, tangential, irrelevant arguments such as these, when the person challenging me is unable to present valid arguements about the topic at hand.
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 9:00amAwww, come on mace, you came off as superior, I was giving it back to you. True you were called out for bad grammar first, whether it be right or wrong, and assumed a posture of being better, then you made glaring mistakes yourself. I am not english major, but I thought I would weigh in just to show you how demeaning it can be. Hey, I love ya Mace, no worries here over a few words. I just wish the left would stop spending so much damn money, then calling for taxing the rich (which I am not), when the top 1% pays 40% of all taxes. We all need to come to our senses before we lose our country – do you know how close we are to losing the dollar as the ‘world reserve’ currency? If that happens we a TOAST, and we better get a handle on this stuff FAST. As far as this 12th Imam thing goes, it is a joke, a farce, but to the Persians, they believe it, and they will try to cause chaos – just look at the middle east today, enough chaos for ya? Peace out my friend.
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 9:05amBTW, I have a Bahcleor of Science degree my friend and am not stupid nor am I illiterate. You were corrected, rightly so, for your grammar for sure. Then you come with your rules and big head, and flubbed the whole thing.
But you know what peeved me the most – you mocked Jesus Christ! Have some respect for those who believe ok, then maybe we can respect you? Deal?
Report Post »SADworldWEliveIN
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 11:32amI think it’s awesome that when it comes to cyber bullying people’s number one “bash” is a grammar comment. lol lame. Everyone is Hercules behind a computer screen haha.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 6:10pmBut I didn’t mock Jesus Christ, and Showtime should be the target of your impudence, seeing as how he self-righteously attacked my grammar first.
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:10pmIsn’t their 12th Imam is our antichrist?
Report Post »DavidFactual
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:28pmYES.
Report Post »The Twelveth Imam makes a Seven Year Peace contract (so say the Islamic believers.)
SimpleTruths
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:50pmWho were the previous 11? This is all just more religious BS.
Report Post »NuffSaid
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:04pmObama the Imama seems to fit the bill just fine. He crawled out of a hole in the ground.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:48pmThe fact that it is BS or not BS is not the question- ding dong. The question is- when the sword of conversion is at your throat will you still be Mr. Tough guy? I say- you will not. Unless you have the righteous faith and the Lords protection. Good luck at your new mosque. Hope you make plenty of friends and I hope they treat you better than the Christians of this country. And by the way, you no longer have the freedom of or from religion. But that will be between you and your local Taliban constable. Maybe the first stone will be a kill shot so you dont have to suffer through hours of stoning. And dont dare to be offended by ramadan or the quran, that is infidel speak and beheading will be swift- no court hearing. I bet you just cant wait can you Mr. ding dong?
And they accuse Christians of ramming religion down their throat? Useful idiot.
Report Post »mill
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 9:47pmYES!!
Report Post »and when he gets here I hope he kicks every religion ….that tries to control others, dictate their every movement, tell them to kill in his name etc, tell others their religion is nothing compared to theirs, they have the “true” works of god, get in line or die…..I hope he/she kicks them to the curb.
Eliasim
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:46amNo, the Christian Antichrist was Mohammed.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:57amWe are in the very latter years of Revelation. I know this because it is beginning that all the old hatreds are appearing which is all of Gog and Magog turning on each other; the hatred of the rich; hatred of the poor; atheists hating the religious, religious hating atheists; Illegal immigrants hating Americans, Americans hating Immigrants; etc etc. These current events go well beyond the beast who is as a lamb. Even still, in the very last days there will be some similarities to the time the beast as a lamb came. The difference in the two different times in Revelation is that the latter end times will end will Christ coming as in the Days of Noah.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:09pmWell, doo-dah for them!
Wonder what our Muslim in Chief will have to say about that?!
silentwatcher
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:26pm“Do not worry about wars, or the threat of wars,,for these things must come to pass.”
silentwatcher
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:29pmNo,,,it wasn’t our muslim in chief that said that…it was someone REALLY important….
Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:30pmYea, those Iranian leaders are spooky and their talk of a 12th Imam is apocalyptic along with all of the unrest in the middle east, but Ive read the last chapter of THE book and I know who wins.
Are you ready?
Blacktooth
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:32pmWhat we have here is a contest between the True God and His Son, Jesus and a counterfeit religion designed by God’s enemy, Satan. Good vs evil has been going on since Adam and Eve. Which side will win?
Luke 21:25 “Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation, 26 while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 But as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift YOUR heads up, because YOUR deliverance is getting near.”
Pray for God’s Kingdom to come.
silentwatcher
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:38pm“on EARTH as it is in Heaven”
encinom
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:38pmHow is that any different than the fundies and mormons looking for signs of the second coming. It all the same religious extremist BS.
hersey10
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:39pmBam will welcome any effort to destroy Israel so he doesn’t have to . He’s made it perfectly clear where he stands .
silentwatcher
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:41pmI see Encinom is still lurking the shadows with the childishly snide remarks………must be about 12.
leftiesaredangerous
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:41pmNow will Lawrence O’Donnell mock this as he has The book of Revelation?
No, of course he won’t.
Report Post »BIGJAYINPA
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:42pmMock these people at your peril. It doesn’t matter if we belive it or not. The point is THEY belive it and they see it as THEIR DUTY to do all they can to hasten the return. Nuclear wepons, dirty or otherwise and the will to use them and we got a big problem on our hands. You need to watch the movie Karthoum and listen to what that Mahdi says and remember what happened to Chinese Gordon at the hands of a Muslim fanatic/sincere beliver. I’m not ashamed to admit that these Twelvers scare the snot out of me. Islamic Kamikazes who welcome death…Scary thought.
MODEL82A1
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:49pmWhat a coincidence! I was listening to my local Talk Radio station this morning from about 9:00 am til just before noon and there was a man speaking there ( his name escapes me) who sounded an awful lot like he was about to announce that He was the Second coming of the Christian Messiah. Hmm…
silentwatcher
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:50pmI’m not going to fear anything. I will accept what is…..because it has to be to get where we must.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:01pmI look at this simply put, “When the 12th Imam crawls out of the well after so many centuries, then I shall deal with it, preferably with a chiropractor, after so long his back will need adjustment.”
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:03pm@ ENCINOM extreme Christians ,to my knowledge, do not believe they can FORCE the Second coming of Christ. These Muslims believe that by their actions, Prophecies can be made to happen on their timing. Do you see the difference?
dealer@678
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:05pmBring him on. I want him to meet a good friend of mine
Report Post »Patrick in AZ
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:07pm@ Encinom
The difference is that believers in the 12 imam believe that they must create the violence in order to bring about the imam. That is dangerously different from believing that violence will occur before the 2nd coming.
Anti_Spock
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:20pm“SHOWTIME
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:09pm
Well, doo-dah for them!
Wonder what our Muslim in Chief will have to say about that?!”
It’s all part of the plan, facilitated by an ignorant media, hailed by global progressives. Keep your powder dry my friend.
Divern808
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:22pmOxyMoron: Islamic Civilization
democratgirl
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:25pmThat would be the anti-christ. The entire world must be against Israel before he reveals himself. I believe personally, that the anti-christ won’t be revealed until the rapture takes place, when Jesus calls HIS believers up to Him, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye. THEN, and only then will God allow Satan to have COMPLETE dominion over earth. Right now Satan only has partial dominion because of the angels and the Holy Spirit. When Jesus raptures His people, the Holy Spirit will also be removed from earth’s dominion.
All of you out there who do not know Jesus, you have a very short window of time to get on your knees. Events are happening faster than they ever have before. Satan KNOWs he has a very short time left to rake all the unbelievers in. Satan will make you laugh at me and other believers; mocking Jesus, denying what is happening. DO NOT LISTEN TO THAT…..it could be the end of you. Just ask Jesus to forgive you for all your sin (past, present, future) and save you and that’s all you need to do besides THANK HIM FOR SAVING YOUR SOUL FOR HIS OWN. Then grab a Bible and READ it! It will be the Holy Spirit that takes believers out of here when Jesus calls us up to Him. Do not be deceived by the devil. He is a liar, a thief and the ultimate deceiver. DO NOT ALLOW SATAN TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE OTHERWISE. He wants you to remain here. Problem is, there will be no Holy Spirit here to help you, if you are left. Believers: PLEASE get your friends and family ready. We still have a bit of time left, but it is progressing rapidly. Pray and read your Bible daily and as much as you can. WE ARE GETTING OUT OF HERE SOON!
God gave me an ongoing dream over 3 years ago. He showed me from the heavens, some cities in America. As he allowed me to get closer to see the people on the streets, I was shocked at what I saw. Americans were fighting one another. There were no foreign enemies. They were American citizens. There was blood everywhere. Satan wants us to do this to one another. DO NOT FIGHT YOUR BROTHER AND SISTER, whether they are believers or not. You are allowed to defend yourself in your homes – yes, with a gun, BUT USE common sense.
I have had this ongoing dream for 3 years and everytime I have it, it gets worse to watch. God also showed me the demons being unleashed throughout our country. This country is the last country to be taken over totally by Satan. It will eventually, but we will be gone by that time. So, believers, LOOK UP, YOUR REDEMPTION DRAWETH NIGH. Why God showed me these things, I do not know, except that He wanted me to prepare, long before Glenn told us to. I have. I have studied prophecy and the Bible since the 70s, so believe me when I say, our time is very, very short, and is even at the door. ARE YOU READY TO MEET JESUS? OR, WOULD YOU RATHER MEET SATAN? That is totally your choice.
BTW: if anyone believes Israel cannot take care of themselves against their enemies, think again. God has His hands all around them. Their technology is even beyond our own. He will never, ever, ever, allow Al-Queda or anyone else to take Jerusalem away from Israel. (that is in the Bible) IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. It may look like it (peace accords), but it is a ruse. God almighty has a great hedge of protection around His people Israel, and around each believer who serves Christ. We have already won the victory over Satan, just by serving Christ, so continue to pray and get your friends and family ready.
Anti_Spock
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:28pm“SILENTWATCHER
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:50pm
I’m not going to fear anything. I will accept what is…..because it has to be to get where we must.”
Isn’t that what muslims believe.. the entire “It’s Gods will” line? Thats scary. If anything, God gave us a brain to determine our own outcomes. And to fight against accepting whatever is. In the words of Sir Edmund Burke;
Report Post »“When bad men combine, the good must associate;
else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.
All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
TeaBeliever
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:36pmWe need to turn to God, the true God. We need to read the Bible and prepare ourselves. These are dark days. Listen to Glenn and beleive. Stand UP
PimpBallWizard
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:39pm@ Divern808
“OxyMoron: Islamic Civilization”
LOVE IT!
Anti_Spock
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:45pm“DEMOCRATGIRL
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:25pm
All of you out there who do not know Jesus, you have a very short window of time to get on your knees. Events are happening faster than they ever have before.”
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If we are to believe muslims are evil, and therefore christianity is good, then the reality of that position is predestination: Muslims are born evil / Christians are born good (since without one there cannot be the other). This cannot be true. If all people are born sinners, but birth by geographic circumstance determines salvation, then religion is rigged with predetermined goals laced with individual winners and losers.
That must not be true. For if it were, what does that say about the nature of Heaven? Or the nature of God?
For well over 2000 years men have slaughtered one another in the name of religion, causing me to believe that religion is the red-herring of pre-packaged salvation. And now, in the name of religion, Iranian president Ahk-is-a-nutjob is foaming at the mouth for a nuclear arsenal so he can use it, all to satisfy his book of mythology.
What must be defeated here is religious ignorance. That if ‘all men’ are indeed created equal, then religions promoting destruction of your neighbor is the true enemy of all mankind. It doesn’t take a holy-roller to see that.
Curator_JDR
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:47pmThis is complete insanity. Everything in the Muslim world is inverted — evil is good, slavery is freedom, etc. What will end this mass brainwashing?
This historic interview on Israel National Radio is an eye opener on the ANCIENT roots of Islam aka Baal Worship. These ARE the original Pagans. http://www.marcrubin.com/judean-eve.ivnu
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:58pmANTI SPOCK
“In the words of Sir Edmund Burke;
“When bad men combine, the good must associate;
else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.
All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.””
First,,,,I don’t look to Sir Edmund Burke for religious guidance. However,,,I do believe you and Sir Burke when you indicate that we must fight for what we believe.
My posts are usually short,,,,but in a nutshell, I have the heart of a lion, the will of God, and the obedience to do what is necessary. Will I become a solder of God, a listener of Christ if called on? Without a doubt, yes.
ForgivenWretch
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:02pm@ ENCINOM
Your ignorance is unparalleled. Anyone willing to engage you would only be casting their pearls before swine. You are only interested in your truth and enjoy being a simple critic. I find it entertaining you still try to defend this undefendable President and think of Islam and Christianity as being mirror images. Silly Liberal, lies are for lefties.
oldeagle101
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:06pmHey I wonder if our Muslim in Chief is the 12th Imam…..
ForgivenWretch
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:08pm@ ANTI_SPOCK
You’ll be happy to know my previous post to ENCINOM also applies to you. I guess ENCINOM’s ignorance and arrogance can be paralleled. I stand corrected.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:09pm@Silent Watcher ~
We just sort of step over Encinom, as though he is the brown steaming stuff.
@Encinom ~
Report Post »A word to the wise (or ignorant) -
Silent Watcher is watching you. And he’s got it together a far sight better than you ever hoped to. So, move on to a site where you’re more comfortable. Like a sewage treatment plant.
Showtime
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:11pm@Silent Watcher ~
Report Post »Mark 13:7.
Anti_Spock
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:12pm“SILENTWATCHER
My posts are usually short,,,,but in a nutshell, I have the heart of a lion, the will of God, and the obedience to do what is necessary. Will I become a solder of God, a listener of Christ if called on? Without a doubt, yes.”
Nice to meet you. I believe Sir Burke has it right, not that I look to him for guidance as I follow no man. I pasted the tail end of your comment to illustrate the universality of it. Any religion could use the same line just by removing Christ and inserting Allah, the Great Spirit, whatever fits for them. In every case they believe THEY are right and all OTHERS are wrong.
To each his own. But after the nuclear holocaust that is sure to come (if the world ignores Iran) I hope religion is the first thing our survivors toss out.
jzs
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:16pmBeck and the Iranians are on the same page, that’s for sure.
Goodbye cruel world!
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:18pm@oldeagle101
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:06pm
Hey I wonder if our Muslim in Chief is the 12th Imam…..
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No, our Muslim in Chief has not crawled out of a well. He crawled out from under a rock in Kenya.
Anti_Spock
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:19pm“FORGIVENWRETCH
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:02pm
Your ignorance is unparalleled. Anyone willing to engage you would only be casting their pearls before swine. You are only interested in your truth and enjoy being a simple critic. I find it entertaining you still try to defend this undefendable President and think of Islam and Christianity as being mirror images. Silly Liberal, lies are for lefties.”
Thank you for your Christian introduction. IS this what you call turning one cheek? Or living like Christ? Did Christ rebuke strangers so harshly? I really don’t know what to say in response to the “forgiven” one… but if Heaven is occupied with people like you then I willfully choose Hell.
Report Post »BLKMTN
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:25pm@ DemocratGirl
I love your passion for Messiah and your zeal for prophecy. I completely agree with you that things are definitely reaching a head, that the AC will soon make his presence known, however…as if you couldn’t see that coming ;) … like most Christians today (including myself) who grew up on “Pre-Trib Rapture” theology we have another thing coming. If you were like me, you’ll probably fight tooth and nail against anyone that says otherwise (as I did), but let me encourage you to look at the scriptures that the following video covers…with an open heart, knowing that His Truth will prevail regardless of our opinions. http://profoundprophecy.com/2011/03/rapture-madness-with-guest-phil-elmore/ I don’t know if there is a way you can message me directly through the Blaze, but feel free to contact me through http://ProfoundProphecy.com/Blog as we love digging into scripture with other believers!
Report Post »SavvyCowboy
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:26pmThanks Barack!!!!
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:29pmYes.. the “Imam” or “Anti-Christ” is coming… but so is someone else MUCH, MUCH greater… Jesus!
earthrise
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:31pmantispock:
“For well over 2000 years men have slaughtered one another in the name of religion, causing me to believe that religion is the red-herring of pre-packaged salvation. And now, in the name of religion, Iranian president Ahk-is-a-nutjob is foaming at the mouth for a nuclear arsenal so he can use it, all to satisfy his book of mythology.
What must be defeated here is religious ignorance. That if ‘all men’ are indeed created equal, then religions promoting destruction of your neighbor is the true enemy of all mankind. It doesn’t take a holy-roller to see that.”
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On the nose!!! God endowed Mankind with Free Will. Thus it is up to the INDIVIDUAL to Choose Good or Evil. IMO “Religion” comes about because some men have chosen to use God’s FAITH against their fellow men in order to feed some need for power, glory, etc.
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:31pmAnti Spock
Understand you,,,,but can you imagine what it would be like to live in a world without social values? Religion, one that is tolerant of all, gives us those values. For that matter, they also gave us our laws (at least in the U.S.)
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:35pmShowtime….
Actually, we need people like Encinom,,,,to show us what it will be like when the world if full of the misguided and deceived. We need to know now how to deal with them later. You’re right,,,,,just step over them like a pile of steamin’ ……
BTW,,,,thanks for the continued support..!
Report Post »chips1
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:39pmSounds like Obama has another vacation planned. Iran is supposed to be nice this time of year.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:40pmTo the Good people of the Blaze:
If ive told you once Ive told you a thousand times- encinon is a scumbag. Don’t even respond to her. she gets paid by how many people call her a loser. She is a short balding little liberal lady who is almost out of unemployment payments. She is single and abhorredly homely. If it wasnt for the Good people of theblaze, she would have no direction, no motivation, and no attention.
And encinom- listen here lady- you mock God and Jesus and the religious faith of these Good people so you can be accepted by your perceived master-GS? may the wrath of God be delivered upon those who doubt Him. Yeah, that means you lady!
Report Post »Glenny_Glenn_Glennglenn
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:41pmHillarious. First Glenn says the end times are here and now these other Iranian wack jobs are saying it too. Birds of a feather.
Report Post »Glenny_Glenn_Glennglenn
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:46pmReligious extremist BULLCRAP runs wild here and abroad. The rest of us, who are rational people, unburdened with delusions, are getting sick and tired of the idiots that can’t wait for the planet to burn so they can go and be zombies in the afterlife. Sometimes I would just love to see some huge alien spacecraft land and tell all the religious buffoons that all religions were really rooted in their visits and it’s time to grow up and face reality.
Report Post »joe conservative
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:49pmGlenn has been talking about this for a long time now. Maybe the MSM will quit mocking him over it. Probably not though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=619wI12Ky20
Report Post »ForgivenWretch
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:52pm@ ANTI_SPOCK
Well then, it is a good thing you aren’t my judge. Your comment speaks as though you are. And who, pray tell, is a “Christian?” and what does that exactly mean? I suppose we will just leave that up to you to decide in all of your judgmental arrogance. I too am against “religion”, but so was Jesus. He railed against it. He did not call us to “religion” but to Faith and a relationship with Him.
Oh, and BTW, Heaven is filled with Wretches just like me……and you.
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:53pmI’m a far, far cry from being a holy roller…..lmao. I often doubt myself to being a good Christian….but I‘m hopeful and won’t give up.
But I like “no man, without his own consent, can be overcome by evil.”
SHOWTIME,,,,,yes,,,Mark 13-7. Nice job! and thanks for the continued support!
Report Post »Anti_Spock
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:54pm“SILENTWATCHER
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 3:31pm
Anti Spock
can you imagine what it would be like to live in a world without social values? Religion, one that is tolerant of all, gives us those values. For that matter, they also gave us our laws (at least in the U.S.)”
No argument there. Religions have many good things, and if only one good aspect keeps people living in peace its no harm no foul.
That isn’t what we have here however. What we have are two books (Bible, Koran) that seem to be in direct opposition to the other, with both sides viewing themselves as the good guys, for whatever reason. By themselves, both promote peace. But together they are like Gasoline and Oxygen just waiting for a match. All we have today is a repeat of the Crusades, although admittedly different.
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 4:04pmSHOWTIME…
Mark 13-7 sure does hold a lot of what is happening now, doesn’t it???? After refreshing on it,,,,,something written so, so long ago fits so well today with what is happening in the world.
We were ALL blessed, from the start til the end, whether one believes or not, with the option of free choice.
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 4:09pmThe 12th Imam is …. wait for it:
Barak Hussein Obama…he is already here and in power now!
Report Post »Gerrymanderer
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 4:13pmI would pay big money to see the Madi vs. The Anti-Christ vs. Jesus vs. Odin vs. Zeus vs. Rama vs. Siddhartha vs. King David vs. Krishna vs. Mars/Ares vs. Amon-Ra vs. the mind of Steven Hawkins. An all out apocalyptic throw-down. Battleground: The Moon
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 4:16pmAnti Spock
Yes…….extremes from all sides. That, I believe, is why the ‘boil’ will eventually pour its poisen and give us the ‘battle to end all battles.’
I wish people would just realize it’s all about tolerance and how we treat each other.
Report Post »Anti_Spock
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 4:19pmFORGIVENWRETCH
I am wondering why you would ignore your advice to me: “Anyone willing to engage you would only be casting their pearls before swine.”
You have engaged me twice. Not only that, you engaged me first. But I’ll do my best to answer your concerns.
“Well then, it is a good thing you aren’t my judge. Your comment speaks as though you are.”: I never implied I was your Judge.
“And who, pray tell, is a “Christian?” and what does that exactly mean?”: Good question. I really haven’t a clue. But if I were to guess, based on common knowledge of those who profess to be Christians, then I would say Christians are;
– People like Jim and Tammy Baker, who fleeced their flock to the tune of millions, enough to buy a matching pair of rolls royces, fund a 3.4 million dollar bonus, over 200K to pay off Jim’s mistress, all the while defrauding a gullible flock selling non-existent time shares at Heritage USA.
– Catholic Priest… well we know how good they are with our children don’t we?
– (INSERT NAME) of anyone who thinks they have a golden ticket to enter heaven, by whatever means they believe works.
“Oh, and BTW, Heaven is filled with Wretches just like me……and you.”: Well I guess my (INSERT NAME) comment applies to you too (sorry… completely unintentional). I lay no claim to heaven. But I will stand up, fight, and die for my very survival. That includes fighting religious zealots who want my head.
You’ll be happy to know my previous post to ENCINOM also applies to you. I guess ENCINOM’s ignorance and arrogance can be paralleled. I stand corrected.
Report Post »exdem
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 4:22pmOf course Beck was right all along and the only one with enough b@lls to say it.
Report Post »Thanks Glenn!
silentwatcher
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 4:30pmSLAP THE LEFT
You say Encinom is paid to slam Christians? Maybe it will be …..what…..30 pieces of gold? I can’t remember exactly. Was it 30 pieces? Encinom paid to deceive,,,,like,,,hmmm,,,,Judas?
She having her fun,,,,but she’ll pay the price in the end…..free choice, right?
Report Post »Anti_Spock
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 4:30pm“SILENTWATCHER
Yes…….extremes from all sides. That, I believe, is why the ‘boil’ will eventually pour its poisen and give us the ‘battle to end all battles.’ I wish people would just realize it’s all about tolerance and how we treat each other.”
Well, not really. Battle to end all battles? Will you be leading that charge? (I already know your answer… “yes if God tells me) Can’t you see the fallacy… what do you think Allah is telling Muslims? The exact same thing.
Life imitates art my friend. We either have the power to believe in “LIFE” as it is, or we can subscribe to the doomsday philosophy. While you are busy formulating a snappy christian-filled comeback (dare YOU question the Bible!) ask yourself where are the Bhuddist in your fight? Or the Taoist? Or any number of religions with a different book?
We have a brain, and it’s a huge mistake not to use it, rather surrendering everything to a religion that has been frilled into us by threat of Hell. Doesn’t get any better than that.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 4:31pm@Slappy
“may the wrath of God be delivered upon those who doubt Him.”
Sounds almost muslim, are you a closeted muslim? I guess you forgot to read that second part about the merciful God.
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 4:47pmencinom – I guess you didn’t read about the flood and Noah? LOL, your arguements are weak and your beliefs non-existent. In Revelations, God wreaks his wrath at all unbelievers and unrepentant sinners, such as yourself, Bill Ayers, etc…you should fear God’s wrath. He loves you, yes, he wants us to love each other, yes, but he does not love the sin my athiest friends. I love the sinner, and I love you, but I hate the sin, pure and simple isn’t it? Next you will ask why is there cancer, or earthquakes and the like – there is a spirit called Satan in the world, and that is the cause of all the evil – pride starts it.
Report Post »ForgivenWretch
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 4:50pm@ ANTI_SPOCK
Report Post »Touche’….and you continue to manage to be the judge……swine.
silentwatcher
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 4:56pmAnti Spock
I’m going to defend my own,,,,,I believe you said the same thing. I also said I’m far from being a perfect Christian. To sum up all my opinions on faith,,,,,‘everyone should treat each other with tolerance and good will’. Someone wants to kill me for my belief,,,or faith,,,,they better be prepared to die themselves. I told you,,,,I’m no Holy roller…..far, far from it.
BTW,,,,you‘d have better luck getting people to ’discuss‘ with you if you weren’t so….condescending. But then,,,,I’m tolerant.
Report Post »Anti_Spock
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 5:03pmFORGIVEN…
Let me get this straight. First you accuse me of this: “I find it entertaining you still try to defend this undefendable President and think of Islam and Christianity as being mirror images. Silly Liberal, lies are for lefties.” When I never have defended BHO as I am a Reagan conservative. I actually assembled the weapons that sank the Iranian Navy during Operation Praying Mantis (1988) from the decks of the USS ENTERPRISE. I am proud to have been the force behind Reagan.
I don’t know who you are. We have never met. But before you sacrifice people of varied opinions and beliefs maybe you should get to know them better.
I find it ironic you would end with a simple “touche.” So be it. By the way you have unfairly attacked me here, I would never have a drink with you anywhere, not even if you were buying, or even if the drink was akin to your liking. Good day sir (or ma’am). May we never meet.
Report Post »DirectlyUnPCman
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 5:12pmOk Ok …I am the 12th Imam. You caught me.
Report Post »Anti_Spock
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 5:13pmSILENT.. “you‘d have better luck getting people to ’discuss‘ with you if you weren’t so….condescending. But then,,,,I’m tolerant.”
Oh boy. Why is everyone so PC? Criticism wrapped in niceties = horse crap.
But we can agree on the goodness of the Golden Rule. Something I believe in… when applied in equal force.
Your’e a good chum. Enjoyed the verbal jostle.
Report Post »ForgivenWretch
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 5:13pm@ ANTI_SPOCK
Report Post »….you are confusing me with someone who cares to “drink” with you. I’m not responsible for your salvation or beliefs. Drink where and with whom ever would give you the time. I don’t know why I would care.
Anti_Spock
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 5:22pmFORGIVEN… so not even an apology for falsely accusing me of defending BHO, or calling me a lefty?
How christian of you.
SILENT…. you accuse me of being condescending and completely disregard the falsities being lobbed at me.
What is this place… a christian revival?
Report Post »ForgivenWretch
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 5:47pm@ ANTI-SPOCK
My apologies for confusing you with a Barry supporter…..you’re right…there is no greater insult. But let’s get one thing straight….you have made many assumptions about Christianity and hold them to such a high standard NONE of us can match. WE KNOW WE ARE NOT PERFECT and WE DON”T NEED YOU TO TELL US THAT! We are WRETCHES, INFIDELS, DIRTY DOGS…you name it ….we are that and more. STOP insulting me by saying in your superior intelect that I’m not being very “Chirstian”. You SIR are NOT my JUDGE.
“Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.” (Matthew 7:6).
You are not interested in meaningful conversation but to only draw out and lead down rabbit trails. You reek of self piety and are full of accusations.
Are you done drinking?
Report Post »home_of_the_brave
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 5:53pm@Encnom- Pay attention, everything has been told ahead of time even the “False Messiah” or Mahdi
Matthew 24:3-14 “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.
9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Matthew 24:22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.
26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.
Report Post »Gas137
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 6:14pmStay on earth people. There are many armed veterans and political groups who will fight to the death for OUR land, the United States of America. Don’t give any credibility to chicken groups like the New Black Panthers. They were punks in the 1960s (I was in the area when Bobby Seale was taken down). The days of affirmative action are over when good people of all races were abused. Let the pseudo-revolutionaries know one thing for real, you will meet the ultimate resistance. 137
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 6:24pmI’m about convinced that they might be right, however we know this “12th Imam” by a different name…..the Anti-Christ.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 6:31pmAnti-Spock finally lays out his foundation: “We have a brain, and it’s a huge mistake not to use it, rather surrendering everything to a religion that has been frilled into us by threat of Hell.”
It’s not so different than others that come here with superior notions of their intellect. I weary of responses but, here goes again.
I have a brain, and I do use it. Like others, I’m fairly well educated, and in a variety of disciplines, including scriptures. With what Anti-Spock has said of why he thinks people become Christians, it is apparent that he does not know as much as he believes about the subject. Perhaps we could educate him, but we’ve already heard the pearls and swine and dogs verse, so I’m not going to hold my breath.
GETLIFE
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 6:33pmThat’s “…WHOM (not “who”) all beings on Earth and in heaven, love without end.”
Report Post »Notice it’s not the Mahti who loves all beings on Earth and in heaven, but the other way around.
watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 7:17pm@ ANTI SPOCK……………”Nice to meet you. I believe Sir Burke has it right, not that I look to him for guidance as I follow no man. I pasted the tail end of your comment to illustrate the universality of it. Any religion could use the same line just by removing Christ and inserting Allah, the Great Spirit, whatever fits for them. In every case they believe THEY are right and all OTHERS are wrong.”
Would we be right to assume together that perhaps if the Bible be true and if there is an evil personage (Satan) that seeks to deceive many that he would counterfeit that which is real with copies of that original? Much in the same way that currency is counterfeited to look similar to the original so as to fool those who do not look close enough to the details that make one the true currency and the other one worthless? Also you would have to point out in the Qu’ran where it is stated that Allah died for my sins? Or where it says in the Qu’ran to love your enemies and pray for those that persecute you.
Report Post »SMOKIN
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 7:49pmhe will say nothing, just as he has said nothing about Farrakook’s spaceships……………
Report Post »ProudInfidel
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 8:33pmWhat will BHO say? He will say “oooo oooooo . . pick Meeeee PICK ME ! ! ! “
Report Post »Glenn in Virginia
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 8:50pmI’ve met him; he’s working at a gas station near my house. I bought a lottery ticket from him just the other night.
Report Post »GreatAmericanBeckFan
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 9:00pmENCINOM,
If I knew what you looked like and came across your sorry socialist bigoted sorry excuse I would punch your lights out and happily serve my time for it too. You are the saddest excuse for a piece of crap I have ever observed the likes of.
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 9:19pmNow, now, lets not get to excited here, we are only talking about the 12th imam, which by the way, isn’t going to happen.
But, there is the Lord of Lords, King of Kings, the Creator of the universe, who we will all face someday. And don’t expect it to be an easy ride, or an easy escape, as Paul said in the book of Acts “Through much tribulation do we enter into the Kingdom of God”
Report Post »Total Lame Arse
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 10:00pmRevelations does mention that in end times those who refuse to disavow Christianity will have their heads cut off. Muslims also have a tendency to cut heads off. Maybe it’s biblical that their 12th Imam will lead them to conquer the world and cut off heads of infidels…until the Lord rolls it all up like a scroll.
Report Post »jennytx
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 10:33pmthat made me laugh :)
Report Post »LittleBigMouth
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 10:55pmHe won’t have much to say…He will be coming up from the well.
Report Post »exdem
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 11:21pm@DEMOCRATGIRL
Report Post »Thank you! I read everything you post.You always lift my spirits.
exdem
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 11:29pmWOW !!! Looks like those new Media Matters employees are busy posting on the Blaze tonight.
Report Post »docgreen
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 12:11amHey Show, Quick question for everyone. If this stuff is in the Hadith, and Koran about what is happening now in Middle East, how did Obama know about it unless he was a muslim and had read about it in the Hadith? It seems to me since he started these up risings in the Middle East, and wanted the Muslim Brotherhood at his Egypt speech, he’s been in on this since the beginning! I really think he’s a muslim and even the 12th Imam/Caliph/Caliphate!…. This will all play out, and God help us, and Godspeed!
I don’t think we Bombed Libya to get rid of Quddaffi either! I think he’s using that as an exscuse, to bring the Muslim World/Different Factions together! Obama is Evil, and anyone who doesn’t believe it needs to examine themselves for Brain Damage!… Before the next election, I guarantee the world will be flipped upside down because of him! Not in a good way either! The US will be bankrupt and we’ll be slaves to the Global Elite! People we need to wake up and start putting things together! All this stuff thats happening is no coincidence! He’s evil, and soon we’ll have to worship him!
Report Post »newrepublic7
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 1:01amAnti_Spock and Silentwatcher you should take your atheist love affair on the road, or to another blog. The Holy Bible and the Koran have nothing in common, anyone that says so has read neither. I own copies of both! God will show us all which is the truth.
Spoiler alert !
Report Post »Jesus saves us all!
Anti_Spock
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 1:06amFORGIVEN.. Apology accepted. And I don’t drink anymore.
WATCH.. I can’t even spell koran. In fact I’ll burn the first one I see just because I can. Of course if its printed on asbestos paper it might not light. I’m not completely anti-religion… if I had to pick a religion for myself it would model the native American Indians belief in a Great Spirit (not that I would… but it respects nature to its fullest.)
SPARKY101…. Not much tolerance for my point of view. Thats ok. I never once belittled anyone on this thread for inferior intellect. Yet others have shouted me down as ignorant, called me swine, and now you. And people like you wonder where I get my sarcasm from? Like… With people like you inhabiting heaven, there won’t be any need for a hell.
Report Post »newrepublic7
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 1:18am@ Anti_Spock,
You seem very bitter towards religion, you have obviously been wronged/hurt. I forgive you. I love you as a fellow human. I am not mad at you and your hate. It’s OKAY! No need to bash others and their beliefs and experiences. You don’t have to believe, we all have free will my friend. That is what is meant by made “in the image of God” You’re right we all have huge brains and can discover and create. We are created in God’s image, reflections of him. We all have to make the choice to believe or not, that is why we are here. It’s just easier for some. How we treat each other is the test and the measurement. How are you doing in that regard?
Report Post »Anti_Spock
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 1:40amNEWREPUBLIC.. I have been far less critical toward those claiming to be christians on this thread. But no one is correcting them. Strange isn’t it?
I don’t need christianity to succeed in any area of my life. Yet because I express this belief I am trashed by most christians. You say you forgive me? Why? Have I done something wrong to merit your forgiveness?
Report Post »veruca salt
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 6:13am“Mahdi”? I thought his name was “Damien”? Will the Iranians really rally behind a cute, 8 year old white boy?
Report Post »mill
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 9:27am:]“♥♥OMG!!!!! I HOPE AND PRAY this ImAm is a ♥♥WOMAN!!! AND TICKED OFF~~
OOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH PLEASE!!!! A WOMAN!!!! ♥♥♥
Report Post »Jim from Maine
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:33am@ ENCINOM
Foolish words from a fool … Mommy must not be home today, she was all weekend as we had no postings from him/she.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:40amI wouldn’t take this lightly. In the days of old the land of Judah and the land of Israel were two separate lands. The land that held Jerusalem was Judah. The leaders of Iran believe they have to conquer Jerusalem before they can usher in the 12th Imam. The law giver to Israel was Jerusalem and Judah, and therefore in the days of old Jerusalem was the “Great Satan” according to the ancient enemies of Israel. Now who is it that Iran’s leaders call the “Great Satan?” Who is it that the leaders of Iran believe they have to conquer before bringing the 12th Imam? It’s the U.S.A.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:48am@ ANTI-SPOCK…………I agree with you. You have been very decent and have not ridiculed anyone as far as I can tell from reading your posts and I find you a very reasonable fellow. Being a Christian myself, I do think we need to be very careful about how we view others. The truth of the matter is no one has laid hold of Christ based upon their own intelligence or goodness. Jesus said no one can come to him unless the Father draws him and that no one seeks God or knows God, none are righteous. So to understand these ideas I must say I am not better than anyone at all. There but for the grace go I is the right spirit. Realizing that I used to be an atheist I have nothing but a soft heart for you and those who struggle or refuse to believe. Again, one thing I would caution you is to not judge Jesus and what he taught based on how well sinners present Him to you. That is what I used to do as well and it does not change the truth of which he spoke. I will pray for you friend and hope that your sarcasm will not stifle any true and sincere investigation.
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation………..
Edmund Spencer
Report Post »SADworldWEliveIN
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 11:03am“Drain the blood of the innocent and give the kids a show. Break the streetlight. Darken the night, it makes sense down below. Strive for power and glory. Every man for himself. Destroy each other, your giving the devil his trophy for his shelf”
Report Post »What people don’t understand is whether your Christian, Muslim, Jewish, a Leftie or a Rightie we are all victims of a giant scheme. The devil corrupts every organization especially those organizations that hold great power and impact in the way the world turns. People spend way too much time analyzing these organizations and pointing fingers. Example: America is a great country, but if you think for one second that we aren’t as corrupt as the Muslim extremist groups, you are wrong. WE hide behind words like Democracy and Freedom, Justice for all. The extremists are just very public about their true intentions. America and its allies are very careful and cover up every footprint and fingerprint left behind. I can say this because I am an OEF and OIF wounded Veteran. I have seen behind the curtain. But I have also seen and fought the evil that triumphs over the extremist groups. The point I’m trying to make is hold on to your family and friends. Live righteously and worry about the stuff you can control. In my opinion, no man except Jesus Christ can bring peace to this world. Find something righteous to hold on to.
Anti_Spock
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 11:49amWATCH.. Appreciate your comment, it is well grounded in your faith. If all men could be as rational as you the world would be a far better place.
As for being drawn by the Father to Jesus. I have serious trouble with that from the standpoint that Judas was drawn. But when you examine Judas, he was drawn for one purpose: Fulfillment of scripture. On the opposite extreme is Peter, slayer of Christians. Who was drawn. And doubting Thomas. Perhaps the greatest example is when God “hardened Pharaoh’s heart,” causing Pharaoh to act harsher than he normally would have. My point is neither of these men had control. They were drawn to fulfill God’s purpose. That defines predestination, itself designed to fulfill a particular outcome. So without drawing this out any longer… the end is written. The winners and losers are known. In advance. I know Christians love to think everything is free will. But if that were truly the case then the book of Revelations and every prophecy wouldn’t have been written.
So you have been drawn by the father. I’m happy for you. If I am ever drawn by the father it will be fighting the muslim extremists to the bitter end. And maybe, just maybe that is my predestined outcome.
And thanks for the prayer(s). This agnostic (I’m not atheist) appreciates them.
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 12:48pmAnti-SPock, peace and love to ya brother!
But you speak of Judas being drawn in to fulfill prophesy. You are partly correct. He was selected to do the job because Jesus knew he was greedy inside, but also loyal to the crown. So of his own free will he kissed Jesus and took the 30 pieces of silver! There are many stories like this in the Bible, a man’s free will will guide him to God or to Satan, it is just that simple. No one forced the man to point Jesus out, he did it on his own, but Jesus knew him better than he knew himself, and said Judas was going to do this beforehand. Come to Jesus Christ my friend, I can tell you have some misgivings about where you stand, BELIEVE IN JESUS and live forever in Heaven, otherwise, your eternity will be extremely hot and full of gnashing of teeth. I pray for you and love you brother.
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 1:16pmPlease read Jerimiah 13 1-15. This will be our fate for turning our backs on the Lord our God in Heaven.
Report Post »Anti_Spock
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 3:18pmUNCLE CRUSTY… nice handle by the way. And nice to meet you here. Well Judas is a unique character. But Simon Peter was far worse… murdering Christians and all. Yet God persisted with Peter. I sometimes wonder what merits such intervention? Simon Peter obviously hated God to have murdered Christians. Yet God obviously loved him to have intervened. No justice for the slaughtered… only forgiveness. I suppose the message is no matter how atrocious one is, if God decides to harden (or soften) your heart well then so be it. My point is there isn’t a fair standard. What applies to Peter doesn’t apply to others, or vice versa.
I on the other hand believe man evolved by intelligent design. That we have a creator, but our creator created “Life.” And when you look at how diverse life is, how life evolves over millions of years, well religion stands at odds with science. Many Christians believe the earth is about 6000 years old give or take. Reality suggests otherwise… billions of years old… with a fossil record millions of years old. Man isn’t even a blip in geological time. I truly believe that as man evolved with a conscience, the natural outcome is to question how things came to be. It is called self awareness. And through this process religions came about by way of reasoning. Explaining why there are thousands of religions, most we have never heard of.
Most daunting of all in the religious period are the records that were translated into modern text. There are many books left out of the bible simply because they are viewed differently, and under King James were omitted. Yet all of them were written by man (the underlying claim being they were men guided by the holy spirit).
Christians (religions) have a serious conflict. On one hand they believe in a doomsday philosophy, America is predestined to go down the toilet. Yet on the other hand they want a better America. So which is it?
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 3:44pmANTI_SPOCK, that was Saul, who became Paul who was murdering Christians, not Peter.
Report Post »US_SOLDIER
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 3:55pmSo islam is evil and christianity i good? Give me a break, Good/Evil is only a matter of perception. A view from one side of the fight to the other. To us a terrorist is one of the most evil people on earth but to a terrorist they are a freedom fighter/holy fighter. Christians and Muslims need to stop spitting ignorance like this. It only excites the weak and feeble minded
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 4:17pm@ ANTI SPOCK…………..I appreciate your candor and sharing your thought on my comment. It is true that understanding both God‘s sovereignty and Man’s responsibility has engaged many a theologian throughout the ages. I would simply say a couple of things from my perspective. God did say he hardened Pharaoh’s heart but he also said Pharaoh hardened his own heart. Is it possible that if you believe in the doctrine of original sin and total depravity as I do this could explain some of your questions? If we are corrupt in all our being (not meaning that we are as evil as we could be in degree, but rather that all our nature has been corrupted by sin, our intellect, emotions, will etc..) then our hearts are naturally at enmity with God and his law. Now then following this then if God did not intervene at all in the heart of a person they would simply continue on in their rebellion. However, if God did come to quicken the spirit and the person resisted the Holy Spirit (which is scriptural and possible according to the word) then is it not possible that God, who is all knowing, could still maintain both a sincere offer and use that person and their willful rejection to accomplish His sovereign will without violating His sovereignty or the persons free will? Thank you for your comments ahead of time.
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Posted on March 29, 2011 at 4:37pm@ US SOLDIER….you are correct that from our vantage point good and evil are often many times based on one’s perspective and beliefs. If moral relativism is true then both sets of people can be right simultaneously and the one that dominates the other ultimately will prove to be the one with the “truth”. However, if there is an objective proof that rises above our perspective and is transcendent to men and their condition or beliefs then one is good and another would necessarily be evil. So is the scripture that says…………..”Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.” Say if you stand on a building and say you don’t believe in gravity. It really doesn’t matter if you do or not or if you understand it or not if walk off that building there are consequences for violating that physical law. In the same way God has established spiritual realities if you will and whether you acknowledge them or believe in them or not there are consequences for violating those spiritual realities. Did Muhammad die for anyone? Did he raise from the grave? Was his birth or life prophesied before he was ever born? What miracles signs did he perform to point to his authority to speak on behalf of God? Christianity and Islam are not the same in content, message, support, or authority.
Report Post »Scott
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Report Post »Anti_Spock
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:31pm“GONESURFING
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 3:44pm
ANTI_SPOCK, that was Saul, who became Paul who was murdering Christians, not Peter.”
Thanks! My apologies to Peter!
Report Post »Anti_Spock
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 11:18pmWATCH… I like your questions: “Now then following this then if God did not intervene at all in the heart of a person they would simply continue on in their rebellion. However, if God did come to quicken the spirit and the person resisted the Holy Spirit (which is scriptural and possible according to the word) then is it not possible that God, who is all knowing, could still maintain both a sincere offer and use that person and their willful rejection to accomplish His sovereign will without violating His sovereignty or the persons free will?”
The first part of your question establishes the playing field, per say, by suggesting that God either intervenes or does not intervene. It is also something that cannot be tested or measured, but nonetheless is a well established premise of salvation… that God performs intervention. So it would be as you suggest. The question then becomes All or None. Is it all hearts God intervenes in? Or is it no hearts? Or is it some yes, and some no (then how is that just or fair?) But if the belief is God approaches all our hearts, then you must account for all men, all tribes, all clans, all locations. But the bible doesn’t do that, rather it suggests diversity came through the Tower of Babel. At that instant… ethnicity was created. That doesn’t jive with what we have learned tracing Y chromosomes to a common ancestor in Africa (and essentially geneticists have linked the arrival of Native Americans 10,000 years ago from Asia – Middle East – Africa. Coinciding with a basic understanding it was an Ice Age that isolated a band of Africans in Europe for tens of thousands of years which lightened the skin due to steady low light conditions, isolating the gene pool which created unique characteristics we define today as european. Of course there are huge gaps in the genome record.. its like a puzzle.) But back to the root of your premise: If it is true God intervenes, then you must also consider hundreds, if not thousands of Native American generations that had no exposure to Biblical events. Unless one is willing to simply write them off as “heathens” as our forefathers did through manifest destiny.
This is where the bible becomes very interesting. It doesn’t explain events. It states them. Furthermore it threatens the reader with hell if the reader rejects the story. And I believe the last chapter of the Book of Revelation also threatens anyone who tinkers with the bible (by adding to or taking away from it) with eternity in the lake of fire. Seriously?
And before I reach my final point, the fact God would have a chosen people (God has really blessed Jewish people) means by de-facto all the rest are unchosen. So imagine a pyramid of people. The top stone are the Jewish people. Now I have nothing against Jews, I love them like my brother, and in fact would fight right along side them since their religion is more peaceful by design. But that fact that God plays favorites just doesn’t sit very well.
My final take is this. Life imitates art. I’ve said that before, but it really does apply here. Man has written a story. Well two actually (christian and islam) and we (meaning the majority) are using it as a script to our utter destruction. It’s a script I reject. But maybe this is what nature has in mind. The last mass extinction was the dinosaurs some 65 million years ago. So I guess it would stand to reason our time on earth is limited anyway. Might as well go out in a nuclear holocaust (hopefully the Inuits survive.)
George Wakamyia
Posted on March 30, 2011 at 8:33amI call him O slobis, Breakkkkk Us O blah blah
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US_SOLDIER
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 6:57pm@WATCH Good point about gravity and violating Physical law, however your arguement is based on spiritual law. It‘s basis is only in a belief in something you’ve never seen with your own eyes. I don’t hate christians, jews or muslims. I actually think you people are interesting in that you can put so much belief in a story that was written and edited (Constantinople and the Catholic church) by man, yet claimed to be the word of a being that no one has ever seen and exists in some magical place. I found it absurd tho that christians and muslims have been fighting yet they share the same “characters” in their stories (just insert regional names, i.e. jesus/muhammed) their basic stroyline is the same with minimal deviation and descrepincies. Yet you still fight and kill eachother in the name of your God. How do you justify “thou shall not kill” and go slaughter muslims in the crusades and throughout our western history. Religous people pass judgement on people daily yet that’s supposed to be your gods job. Religous people covet your neighbors things (black friday comes to mind as I’m typing lol) and then they want to come to me and tell me I had better find jesus lol. A little hint to all religous people, be mindful how you portray yourself and the words you speak cuz even us athiests are watching you. That is why I will never come to your side of the fence. It’s do as I say not as I do run amock these days
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