Update: New Libyan Government Tries to Calm Sharia Fears, Tells World We ‘Are Moderate’
- Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:23pm by
Tiffany Gabbay
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On Sunday The Blaze reported that leaders of the transitional government in Libya are calling for Sharia to be the basis for all law in the country. Now, however, National Transitional Council leader Mustafa Abdul-Jalil is attempting to assuage the fears of Western democracies over the revelation that a new Libya will be governed by Sharia.
TRIPOLI, Libya (The Blaze/AP) — After giving a speech that emphasized the Islamization of Libya, the head of the transitional government on Monday tried to reassure the Western powers who helped topple Moammar Gadhafi that the country’s new leaders are moderate Muslims.
Just as in neighboring Tunisia and Egypt, Islamists have emerged from yet another Arab Spring uprising as the most powerful group in the country. How far they will go will be decided at the ballot box – in Tunisia this week, in Egypt in November and in Libya within eight months.
National Transitional Council leader Mustafa Abdul-Jalil said Sunday that Islamic Sharia law would be the main source of legislation, that laws contradicting its tenets would be nullified, and that polygamy would be legalized.
“I would like to assure the international community that we as Libyans are moderate Muslims,” said Abdul-Jalil, who added that he was dismayed by the focus abroad on his comments Sunday on polygamy. A State Department spokeswoman said the U.S. was encouraged that he had clarified his earlier statement.
The stir created by Abdul-Jalil’s address in Benghazi, the eastern Libyan city where the anti-Gadhafi uprising was born in mid-February, came as international pressure mounted on him to investigate the circumstances of Gadhafi’s death.
Abdul-Jalil ordered an inquiry to establish whether the deposed Libyan leader was killed in an execution-style slaying after being captured alive Thursday by fighters in his hometown of Sirte or whether he died in the crossfire as government officials have suggested.
State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland reiterated U.S. support for a full investigation but said “it’s now time for Libya to move on.” She endorsed the NTC’s proposed timeline for next steps in the democratic transition, and said Libyans “with no blood on their hands” must be ensured “a place in the new Libya, and that they are safe and they are included.”
She also called a Human Rights Watch report that dozens of Gadhafi supporters were found dead with bullet wounds in the back of the head and their hands tied, “extremely disturbing.” She said U.S. Ambassador to Libya Gene Cretz raised Washington’s concerns with the council and asked them to conduct another investigation.
Gadhafi’s body went on public display since Friday in a commercial refrigerator in the port city of Misrata, where residents lined up to see it.
Late Monday, an APTN crew saw vehicles driving away from the refrigerator, and Associated Press reporters saw that it was empty. A military commander said the bodies were handed over to authorities for burial.
Ibrahim Beit al-Mal, a spokesman for the fighters, said he expected that the bodies of Gadhafi, his slain son Muatassim and former Defense Minister Abu Bakr Younis would be buried Tuesday in an unmarked grave in a secret location.
Abdul-Jalil said earlier that the transitional government has established a committee to determine what to do with Gadhafi’s body, adding that the decision will be governed by a religious edict by the head of the Islamic Fatwa society.
Several videos have emerged showing Gadhafi was alive when he was captured and taunted and beaten by revolutionary fighters in Sirte. The Boston-based international news site GlobalPost posted a video showing Gadhafi’s captors ramming a stick into his buttocks through his pants.
Guma al-Gamaty, a London-based spokesman for the National Transitional Council, said Abdul-Jalil had an obligation at the dawn of a new era to assure Libyans that Islam will be respected.
“This doesn’t mean that Libya will become a theocracy. There is no chance of that whatsoever. Libya will be a civic state, a democratic state and, in principle, its laws will not contradict democracy,” he said.
It is the kind of assurance Western powers that supported the anti-Gadhafi fighters with airstrikes and diplomatic backing may have been looking for.
In Washington, Nuland stressed the importance of creating “a democracy that meets international human rights standards, that provides a place for all Libyans and that serves to unify the country.”
She said the U.S. was encouraged that Abdul-Jalil clarified his earlier statements on the topic, but hedged on an overall U.S. assessment of systems based on Sharia.
“We’ve seen various Islamic- based democracies wrestle with the issue of establishing rule of law within an appropriate cultural context,” Nuland said. “But the No. 1 thing is that universal human rights, rights for women, rights for minorities, right to due process, right to transparency be fully respected.”
French Foreign Ministry spokesman Bernard Valero played down the comments.
“We have confidence that the Libyan people, who have courageously freed themselves from 42 years of dictatorship, will build a lawful state, in conformity with the principles and universal values shared by the international community,” Valero said in an online briefing Monday.
Many Libyans welcomed Abdul-Jalil‘s comments as a chance to overturn Gadhafi’s rulings as he cracked down on Islamists in his later years. Others were critical, saying it was the wrong time to raise the issue.
Hana el-Gallal, a human rights activist, said she was not against the implementation of Sharia law but only if done correctly.
“For me, the speech was not up to the historical moment we are going through. We know the Quran and we know the basics of our religion. We are not against polygamy but it is better to regulate it,” she said.
“Maybe he is trying to make sure that we are not going to be a Westernized country. I don’t know what kind of threat he faces,” she added.
Libya is a deeply conservative Muslim nation, with most women wearing headscarves or the all-encompassing niqab. Islamists were heavily repressed under Gadhafi and are eager to have their say, raising the prospect of a battle for influence between hard-line and moderate Muslims. Already several attacks have occurred on shrines in and around Tripoli belonging to Muslim sects whose practices are seen as sacrilegious.
Abdul-Jalil singled out banks charging interest as something that will be abolished to conform with Sharia laws that equate bank interest with usury. He also said that a Gadhafi-era law that sets conditions on Libyan men wishing to take a second wife, including the written approval of the first wife, will have to be nullified since the Quran allows men to take up to four wives.
“If we follow Islamic principles, then Islam does ban interest. This is an Islamic rule that can’t be negotiated. Some banks are following the Islamic way, which is sharing losses or profits. … Quran is the higher constitution for all Muslims,” Abdul-Jalil said on Monday.
Implementing Sharia in Libya may not necessarily mean the North African nation will turn into regimes like clergy-ruled Iran or Afghanistan under the Taliban. The extent of how far Sharia law can be applied depends in large part on the interpretation of a large body of Quranic verses and sayings and deeds of Muhammad, Islam’s seventh century prophet.
Sharia law is enshrined the constitution of a number of Middle Eastern countries with Muslim majorities, but the role it plays in society varies according to interpretations. Some nations, such as Iran and Saudi Arabia, follow a stricter interpretation that mandates cutting off the hands of thieves, the heads of murderers and stoning adulterers to death. Those who drink alcohol are publicly flogged. Others, such as Egypt, state that Sharia is a main source of legislation but have largely secular laws.
“It may not be quite be the country that NATO thought it was fighting for (when Sharia is implemented in Libya),” said David Hartwell, a British-based Libya expert. “But the huge amounts of oil and gas in Libya will make everyone learn how to reconcile themselves with the new Libya.”
Gadhafi’s approach to Islam has changed through his nearly 42 years as leader. On coming to power in 1969, he pushed for an interpretation of Islam that encouraged the fight against European colonial powers in Libya and across the globe. He banned alcohol in line with the faith’s teachings and turned against liberals and leftists during his early years in power.
In later years, however, Gadhafi saw militants as a threat to his authoritarian rule. He jailed and put to death many of them while sending agents of his powerful security organs to monitor and, in some cases, arrest Libyans showing signs of piety, such as frequenting mosques to offer dawn prayers.
Islamists are a small minority among Libya’s population of 6 million, but they were by far the largest and most powerful faction among the fighters who battled pro-Gadhafi forces in eight months of civil war. Abdul-Jalil, analysts said, was likely to have given his address an Islamic slant as a nod to those fighters who were united with other factions by the common goal of ousting Gadhafi but now are jockeying to fill the political vacuum left by his ouster.
“Abdul-Jalil’s religious rhetoric reflects moderate Islam,” said Ali Ahmida, a Libyan who chairs the Department of Political Science at the University of New England at Biddeford, Maine. “His address was an attempt to appease the Islamic groups that fought Gadhafi, but should have come as no surprise in Libya, where Islam plays a much bigger role than it does in neighboring countries.”
The emergence of Libya‘s Islamists as the strongest faction in the wake of Gadhafi’s removal repeats a pattern seen in Tunisia and Egypt.
Early signs from Tunisia’s parliamentary election Sunday show that a once-banned Islamist party, Ennahda, has a commanding lead in the first vote since a popular uprising forced President Zine El-Abidine Ben Ali to flee the country on Jan. 14.
In Egypt, Islamists also are poised to emerge as the largest bloc when a parliamentary election is held next month. It will be the first nationwide election since Hosni Mubarak, Egypt’s ruler of 29 years, was ousted in February.
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Comments (125)
The10thAmendment
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:45pmLets define a “moderate” muslim. One who refuses to get onboard an airliner and holler Allahu ahkbar as he (or she) flies it into a building to murder 3000 people, but is perfectly fine with strapping a few pounds of c-4 to their chest and blow up innocents at a cafe, while hollering allahu ahkbar.
A moderate, must respectfully beat their wives publicly for driving, or not bowing low enough before them. He must also murder his children if they are suspected of intercourse with an infidel. Above all else, a moderate muslim must be willing to sacrifice their lives to destroy Israel and the great satan, the United States.
They should also be willing to break into an infidels home and butcher them, because it seems like a good thing to do to otherwise innocent people!
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:42pmNormally, under Sharia, as created by the first Caliph, Imam (Mosque Teachers) become the Judges, also using the Koran. Someone’s going to wish Old FuzzyHead was still in charge!
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:51pm.
Report Post »Ain’t that the truth…………..
coindexter
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 12:01amthese guys really look like they are ready to take over the country…bad pants and all. and where are the women leaders of good ole Libya.
Report Post »PoliticalSmackdown {Subscribe & Friend me on YouTube}
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:00amthis from a group who sodomized the former leader with a knife? Moderate my ass.
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:57am“‘Abdul-Jalil’s religious rhetoric reflects moderate Islam,’ said Ali Ahmida, a Libyan who chairs the Department of Political Science at the University of New England at Biddeford, Maine.”
“Moderate” Islam… hmmm… reminds me of when prominent “moderate” Islamists declare that they do not condone the killing of “innocents,” knowing that according to the Koran, the only “innocents” are Koran-abiding MUSLIMS.
Anyhow, we now know, according to Mr. Ahmida, that taking “up to 4 wives” (see Abdul-Jalil’s remaks) is considered moderate.
Report Post »Cobra Blue
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 5:41amNothing to worry about here. Just move along. Yea Right! Better have eyes in the back of your head or you might loose your head…Coming to an American city near you very shortly.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 7:03amIn other words it’s like they be just a wee bit pregnant.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 8:38amWhen will Americans realize that the government does NOT have your best interest at heart? You really think that the US messing around in the middle east is to keep you safe? You’ve been filled with fear by the media to manipulate you into supporting whatever evil/money grabbing plan the banks/military want. It has been going on for YEARS (especially since 1952), but you’re still buying the evil American interventionism policy.
How about learning some history of how all this middle east crap started in the first place? We can thank the UK for most of it, but America “got in on the action” as well. I’m downright ashamed of the way America has operated the past 50 years!
This has Ron Paul’s name at the top, but it is not an ad, it’s a history lesson (so Dr. Paul’s supporters are informed). Important look at the Middle East.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Qs1nux-ME
Report Post »Junter
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 11:44amUnder Sharia law:
Women can’t drive or be alone with another man ever (unless he’s your husband)
Land can not be sold to Jews or Infidels or the seller maybe punished with death
Non-muslims have no rights to practice their religion.
Honor killings are legal.
There is a growing fanatic population that take Sharia law and the muslim faith to gruesome murderous lengths…
Yes it’s time to be worried.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 12:13pmNo such thing as ‘moderate’ sharia.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 7:45pmI don’t have to ready that wall of text called a “story” to know that AL QAEDA is NOT MODERATE.
REMEMBER THESE PEOPLE ARE AL QAEDA.
THEY WANT YOUR HEAD ON A PLATTER AND THEY WORK FOR THE CIA.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:38pmOh yea we buy that…..NOT!
TEA!
Report Post »db321
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 11:58pmAnd a Rattle Snake doesn’t bite. You can bulls$%t Obama, and the Liberal Media but don’t Bills#$T us.
Report Post »the wireworker
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:25pmTaqiyya, or the quarysh model take your pick
Report Post »45Sentinel
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 11:24pmRadical Islam – Stone infidels with large stones
Moderate Islam – Stone infidels with medium stones
Hope this helps
Report Post »JustMeHere_01
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:36pmThis is off topic but I have to ask a question? Has anyone other than myself had problems with getting the GBTV. It appears that one or maybe two episodes are missing. Is there a problem that I am having alone or are others discovering the same thing.
I hope it is a temporary glitch and that GBTV is still healthy and able to continue. I am not sure what is going on here. Anyone have an explanation on what is going on!!??”
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 11:19pmwhy don’t you e-mail them?
Report Post »greatdanes
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 11:25pmGBTV Is Okay – I Watched Glenn Tonight & Lister & view the Radio show this AM -
Report Post »AmeriCat
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:48amNope…no problems at all.
GBTV is great…on both computer AND Roku
But….you keep asking this same question….
Report Post »…just like the solitary Hit.lar Poster at the Tea Party events.
Zudarmardel
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 11:18amWatched last night,10/24/11. Everything was working good.
Report Post »Netsurfer2
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:34pmThat’s what democracy looks like “over there”! What do you expect??? We spend billions of dollars of our tax paying money to supply them with weapons and even use our own and what do we get??? Obama bowing down to the Muslim Brotherhood again??? I thought so!
Report Post »Skrewedretiree
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 11:14pmThat’s not the worst of it. Her Royal C**t Hillary went over there with “millions of dollars in aid” to these “moderates”. The article says that the government is pleased that they issued a “clarification” and we don’t have to worry. They are not hard line islamists. They are “moderates”.
Just like Obama and Clinton are “Moderates” and not Pro-Palestinian Socialists.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 11:45pmAnd Syria is next on the “hit” parade!
Report Post »uzeguize
Posted on October 30, 2011 at 1:02pmThis is what democracy is. It is mob rule. That is why I am a republican and defend this Republic of the United States of America
Report Post »barber2
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:34pmSo much progress there. Notice all of the women there ?? .
Report Post »Skrewedretiree
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 11:19pmOOPS! Doggonit! Ya done let the cat outa the bag!
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 3:34amI would bet that no one would want to step forward in front of these guys and claim to be a moderate. Unless they wanted to be beheaded or stoned to death. I don’t believe that the term moderate applies to that part of the world.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:30pmHA Ha
Report Post »barber2
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:30pmYeah, this Muslim crew will probably be as moderate as the Obama administration is “transparent .“ Only the Far Left is naive enough to buy into the democratic ”Arab Spring” hooey. Conservative are more schooled in human psychology.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 2:41amThe far left haven’t bought into it their part of it.
Report Post »321481
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:23pmLibya, not everybody in the USA are stupid. If you have sharia law you are NOT moderate.
Report Post »dchiro
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:20pmMr. president may be you should vote present the next time you and your administration has another foreign policy idea.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:29pmhillery too..
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:16pmYep looked moderate to me when they were yellin alla akbar as they were doin their killing. Under this definition all muslims are moderate and should be treated the same (+).
Report Post »Cold War Vet
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:15pmOoooh. Big surprise there!
Report Post »Maybe they should call up Ahmadinejad fjor advice! Maybe Hamas? Muslim Brotherhood? Al Quaeda? Taliban?
AmeriCat
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 4:55amProbably already have, with nice cozy personal meetings.
Report Post »spinelessdave
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:09pmBut, if we just talk to them you know, open up a friendly dialogue ??????
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:04pmModerate Sharia Law = You can only honor kill your wife once.
Yeah, it makes about that much sense.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 8:29am..that’s why they can have 4 wives (in case they need to kill a few)
Report Post »Semper4everSemper
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:00pmSo this must be ‘Bush’s fault’. No wait, looks more like “H”ell’s CHASM.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:55pmi wonder if obama and his communist,pro sharia, buddies are having another party,this is the second or third country to get help ousting their leader then immediately went sharia, so they must be dancing in the white house,telling obama ““ you are the man ””‘ can’t wit until america is sharia, then we can party even more. so obama is for,laws limiting women from driving,voting only on a limited basis,honor killing,rape of children,pedophilia,and a lot more peaceful rules,it would be nice to hear a media outlet ask him if he is for sharia or not,but that want happen because george soros will send in his henchmen,then again, obama’s actions speak volumes.
Report Post »RebeccaG
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:47pmThey could be moderate! I think it depends on who‘s definition they’re using. Obama’s, Bush’s, Stalin’s, Hitler’s….It’s all in the eyes of the beholder.
Report Post »Seeds
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:45pmAgain like No means Yes
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:51pmOff topic. I watched Hannity on Fox tonight say HE predicted the coming inserection months before it happened. He lies. Everybody at Fox is stealing Becks work and calling it their own. Hannity sucks
Report Post »AmeriCat
Posted on October 25, 2011 at 5:03amAgree…@Dealer686!
FOX is stealing Beck’s work….
When they never breathed a word of Islam, Caliphate, Muslim Brotherhood,
NOW they claim it was their idea.
Even liberal Martha McCallum…was told to talk about the Caliphate this morning.
And FOX did NOT show any of Beck’s 8/28 OR 8?24 events…nary a peep!
Only O’Reilly mentioned one sentence about 8.28 before the event…
he probably sneaked that in.
God Bless Glenn Beck!
Report Post »….and the computer / Roku for my GBTV.
Seeds
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:43pmlike saying No means Yes
Report Post »sister1_rm
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:42pmI saw it coming, my jaw should not have dropped, but here it is numb and hanging wide open. D____. I hope I can find a place to get away to should this brand of fascism make it over here.
Report Post »JUSTANOTHEROPINION
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:41pmNothing like getting the shaft! All together now, thank you Obama (you incompetent boob).
Report Post »Marci
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:40pm“This doesn’t mean that Libya will become a theocracy. There is no chance of that whatsoever. Libya will be a civic state, a democratic state and, in principle, its laws will not contradict democracy,” he said.
It is the kind of assurance Western powers that supported the anti-Gadhafi fighters with airstrikes and diplomatic backing may have been looking for.”
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Really? Do they realize the people who actually are AWARE of this conflict aren’t stupid? Those that would buy this b.s. are Occupying Every Street or too busy to be informed. How can Islamic law not be a theocracy, and how can it be moderate? In any case, the U.S. facilitated this, specifically Obama. He thinks he has appeased them with his willingness to usher in their caliphate under the false pretext of Guddafi. Yes, he was a dictator, but what they will have now will be much worse. Gudaffi had no interest in obliterating Israel, which is why he is gone. And our stupid wannabe dictator Obama thinks this will put the U.S. at less risk (which it will not, we are still on the enemy list) or he knows it will put us at risk and doesn’t care. He is as close to Satan as I have ever seen. Satan could easily influence the middle east, why bother there, start with the free world first and easily squash the others once completed.
Report Post »majorsco
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:32pmSharia and moderate in the same sentence is an oxymoron! Sharia is extreme when it calls for beating women and stoning/beheading people. There is no other way to look at it.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:32pmWell, this is not much of a shock to those of us following on the Blaze and other sights for the last few months; so on with the show…
Mr Obama you are once again demonstrated to be a failure as a President in the allowing of the so called “rebels” who actually are extremists, radicals and terrorists to take over Libya. Now armed with the portable AA missiles, petro dollars, and a Sharia extremist government they will have the perfect foundation for the expansion of their operations and the return of the Caliphate.
Mr Obama shall go down in history as the “Great Destroyer” of the world.
“…and behold, I viewed the world in the entirety of being, and saw four figures come from the smoke and fires of conflict and anger and hatered…Obstruction and Rage (Reid and Pelosi), Confusion and Chaos (Biden) and the fourth enshrouded death personified (Obama)…”
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:22pmI hate it when you are right!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:32pm@82nd — this is one of my most massive frustrations of the day and the last 15 years for me is the warning of people that the storm is brewing, then coming, and is here now; I see a judgment is being sent against the nation, and it will be soon, with fury and wrath within it…realistically I see that the current mess will last well into 2014, before it starts to get better.
Assuming that is:
A. I figure right on the events coming as I believe they will.
B. If the nation survives Obama.
C. If the nation avoids a civil war.
D. If the people of the nation in families, communities and states will stand against the night.
God above I hope and pray I am wrong; I do want to be wrong across the board on what I see coming down the line soon. Call it a gut feeling or intuition, everything is screaming at me that the middle of next month around the 14 Nov date is when all hades will break loose fully.
Report Post »Cold War Vet
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:24pmModerate Sharia Law?
Isn’t that kind of like peaceful violence?
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:32pmIndeed, like Mr Obama saying “Trust me…”
Report Post »Marci
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:42pmyou bet it is.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 9:47pm@ cold war vet & snow, both of you are correct “” trust me we are a peaceful religion.
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 10:11pmLike the muslim brotherhood is purely secular.
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