New MoveOn.org Ad Accuses GOP of Promoting ‘Back-Alley’ Abortions
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A new televised political ad launched Tuesday from liberal activist group MoveOn.org asks, “Why is the G.O.P. trying to send women back to the back alley?”
The controversial new ad takes a radical stance in tackling the current abortion debate in Congress. Republican-backed bills looking to limit federal funding for abortions have divided Capitol Hill and have pro-choice activists like MoveOn.org accusing pro-life members of “launching an assault” on women’s health, forcing them to take measures into their own hands–symbolized by a lone coat hanger at the close of the ad.
To help deliver its controversial message, MoveOn.org recruited actress Lisa Edelstein, best known for her role on the Fox primetime drama House. The ad is set to run on cable networks nationwide, with extra attention specifically aimed at the Oxygen network, TPM reports.
Among the GOP’s proposed spending cuts is an end to Title X, a federal grant program established in 1970 which provides contraceptive services to low-income women. Last year, the program cost about $317 million. According to the New York Times, the grant program does not directly provide funds to pay for abortions, but supports many organizations that provide them, including Planned Parenthood.
During a news conference on Capitol Hill Tuesday, congressional Democrats decried the GOP’s plans to defund abortion providers as waging a “war on women.”
The GOP’s renewed efforts to defund the controversial practice come just days after one pro-life activist group’s bombshell undercover investigations captured evidence of several Planned Parenthood engaging in immoral — and often illegal — behavior in its effort to provide abortions to desperate customers.
“The time has come to deny all federal funding to Planned Parenthood of America,” Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., said during a speech on the House floor last week. “Pro-life Americans and all Americans should not be forced to subsidize America’s largest abortion provider or continue to provide federal taxpayer dollars to Title X clinics that engage in this abhorrent behavior.”
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Looner
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:23pmWas that a p[lastic coat hanger? I couldn’t really tell…but I think it has to be a metal one.
Report Post »doncorleone
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:23pm42 of our 50 states allow for abortions, this is about federal power, tons of our tax money to pay for institutionalized murder, and wholesale fetal matter farming so rich, liberal women can have their anti-wrinkle cream (it’s big business in russia, they opened a plant that manufactures a similar cream in san fransicko).
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:42pmI think 50 out of 50 states allow abortion–it’s kind of a constitutional right to form economic contracts between private actors that have no substantive impact upon public interests.
Roe v. Wade…?
Report Post »designbyinspiration
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 8:19pmRoe vs. Wade was a one trick pony that succeeded by the slant of the rules. The win was a RIGHT TO PRIVACY issue, to the best of my knowledge no morality was judged, no issue of murder or life was settled.
Report Post »John Valentine
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 8:42pmThere is no legal right to murder, exceot if course Roe vs Wade. That is in the process of change.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 3:14amMy point is that abortion is federally protected right, as it falls under the federal protection of one’s freedom to engage in economic barter free from regulation UNLESS a demonstrable public harm can be shown justifying regulatory intervention–OBVIOUSLY the Supreme Court doesn’t think that has been demonstrated (mostly because there isn’t a compelling public interest) or it wouldn’t have ruled as it did in Roe v. Wade. As to whether or not abortion = murder–that’s also up in the air and a personal opinion, not a matter of U.S. law–in fact, that abortion is legally protected as a legitimate form of economic service implies that it is not an illegal act under U.S. law (which murder is) and thus is not murder under U.S. legal definitions.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:22pmBecause they are, AH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »bkeely
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:20pmSave and rare? This is only true if they are illegal.
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Waltermelon
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:18pmDr. Kermit Gosnell who ran a “LEGAL” West Philadelphia clinic managed to kill Karnamaya Mongar, a recent immigrant and mother of three. He also killed seven other women, and kept trophy’s of aborted fetus
How much of our taxpayer money did he spend? This alone destroys moveons pathetic arrangement, never-mind the recent planned parenthood tapes…
Report Post »foreverblue00
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 1:37pmMore importantly, where was MoveOn.org’s outrage over THAT incident? I didn’t see them release an ad or even a press release decrying the actions of Kermit Gosnell.
Just goes to show that the “pro-choice” movement (really, the pro-murder movement) doesn’t give a rip about ANY life. Period.
Report Post »Average_JoeMN
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:13pmThis argument is a complete fraud. Let’s make murder legal because, after all, we don’t want back alley murders.
Please, abortionist killers, get a new PR agency because this one getting old.
Report Post »Thunderstorm 316
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:04pmThis is sick, abortions are killing the innocent every day. It is time for this legal murder to end!
Report Post »MrBaseball
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:03pmYou know what I just noticed? Both MoveOn ads I actually watched had some of the stars from the tv show “House”. Hmm, very interesting.
Report Post »jmmjr49er
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:01pmLooks like I stop watching “House.” Always glad to see the old lies from the left are dragged up from the bottom. Civility was nice while it lasted. Stay classy MOVE ON.
Report Post »azmomof6
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 12:05amThat just ruins the story on House when she wanted so much to have a baby. I don’t think her character can be very believable now.
Report Post »Craigly
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 11:14amThat makes two of us. No more House, M.D. for me. Too bad. I really liked that show.
Report Post »GetUpOnTheWheel
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:00pmI knew it! I knew it!
I was thinking when I saw the Planned Parenthood sting videos last week…..I know what’s coming next week. Cries of back alley abortions from the left. And here it is in ad form.
So predictable.
Report Post »Puddle Duck
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:58pmThey trade off those innocent lives for illegal aliens that can pay taxes and vote right away (provided they are granted amnesty en masse every once in a while).
eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:53pmPro-life is pro-life. Pro-choice is pro-murder. Abortion is murder whether performed in a taxpayer-funded baby-slaughterhouse or in a mythical back-alley. We must remove our pro-abortion “president” from office and cut all funding to pro-abortion groups and baby-slaughterhouses.
Report Post »Puddle Duck
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:52pmThe GOP can only do something about taxpayer funded abortions even though a fair chunk of the Repubs would like to overturn Roe vs Wade…..the simple truth is there are much bigger problems the country has to deal with rather than revisiting an issue that was ruled on nearly 40 years ago. What is galling is the FUD spun by the left which has no real basis in reality. It’s the number 1 tactic of the left to prsent the issue in less than honest terms.
Report Post »workinghard
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:52pmThe odd thing about back alley abortions is that while it may be true that more women are killed/injured it probably doesn’t change the statistic much on the outcome for the babies. Hmm..how could we improve the chances of the baby surviving abortions..back alley or not?
Report Post »azmomof6
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 12:00amThat’s a good point, but I think it’s lost on the left. It’s strange how the left is appalled at the girl who gives birth and leaves the baby in a trash can or public toilet, but they don’t mind a doctor killing it a few months younger. Any girl/woman considering an abortion should be required to listen to her baby’s heart beat, see the baby in an ultra-sound, and be taught the level of development her baby has achieved. She should also take a visit to a hospital to meet new mothers and their babies. She should be required to meet with at least one family interested in adopting. Then she should be required to sign a document stating all these things have been shown to her. How can any doctor perform an abortion on a person who may not have really understood what her choices were and the consequences that would ensue as a result? If the left really cares about a woman’s health and well being, they need to make sure the woman understands fully what choice she is making. Otherwise, she can be pretty screwed up later when she realizes what she’s done.
Report Post »thevamprn
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 12:27pmI am absolutely pro-life. I agree that people should take responsibility for their action and inactions. There does, however, apper to be a bit of a confict with another of my beliefs. Nobody has the right to tell me that I must live the way they think is right. One of the big reasons our founding fathers set us up as a Republic and not a Democracy was so that the majority could not control the actions of the minority. Personal rights. This is where I fall into a delema. Abortion to me is murder, however, is it right for me to force my belief on another? If a majority of people can force their view on a minority group, could it be a slippery slope to other things? It is not my place to judge another person. That‘s God’s job. Does that mean I should not express my view in an attempt to sway others? Of course not. God gave us free will. That’s why I would cry from the roof tops that abortion is murder. Should I be allowed to force my view on someone else? No! I wouldn’t allow another to force their view on me. When the time comes, they will have to answer to a higher power for exercising their free will. We should be a country that exchanges ideas in an intellegent way,
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:49pmClaiming that women will be forced to have abortions in back alleys, rather than under the supervision of a health care professional, is a false dichotomy. The other glaringly obvious option is to take responsibility for their sexual behavior, or to give the child up for adoption in the case of rape.
I don’t want anyone murdering children with my money.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:49pmAgain the left doesn’t know all the facts and spews brown stuff to keep their agenda going.
Report Post »dbakken
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:46pmI don’t think it matters anymore. With the Presidents budget we are doomed. This is what the Globalists want. You should know that Glenn. They will continue to use the left and islamic radicals to stir up revolution and insure their control in Washington collapses the US Economy. It has been planned that way so I don’t think there will be money for much of anything.
Report Post »raleigh99
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:46pmMove On . org is left wing communism and anti-freedom. They will not survive for long in the age of Aquarius, an age of freedom.
Brontefan
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:45pmBecause we want to eliminate shady doctors performing late term abortions and endangering teens, not to mention the Planned Parenthood obvious wink at illegal activities with minors–does not mean we are trying to force women into “back alleys.” Reasonable responses should be expected and the American taxpayer should not be paying for all this behavior –when George Soros can easily donate plenty of coin to Planned Parenthood for whatever they need. If he has the money for NPR, he can add Planned Parenthood to his list of venues. The opposite of Pro-Life is not “Pro-Choice.”
Report Post »ctate970
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:45pmThe Country is BROKE. There are no sacred cows. WE MUST MAKE CUTS.
Report Post »voodoolife
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:05pmCuts and elimination of may departments…
Report Post »J.C. McGlynn
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:44pmThe pro-abortion groups don’t like the light of truth shining on this travesty. That jerk doctor here in Philedelphia was charging $25.00 a pound for late term abortions to medicare/medicade.
Report Post »azmomof6
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:39pmI can’t understand this. Why not just deliver the baby and give it to someone who wants it. There are many people who would be happy to have a new baby in their family.
Report Post »Buzzsaw
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:44pmMoveon has no shame.
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:55pmPlanned Parent and sex slavery. What’s a little sex slavery in the name of abortion?
Report Post »It’s time for feminist women to take responsibility for their own bodies and stop punishing innocent children for their mistakes.
Enuff Zenuff
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:10pmProgressives have no shame because shame is only present in people with a commitment to being honest.
Progressives use Alinsky’s “Rules For Radicals” as their unholy bible – the book dedicated to Lucifer and designed to teach the reader how to lie and deceive to win at any cost. Obama & Hillary Clinton both studied the book thoroughly in college. Most far-left Progressives use the same techniques whether they’ve read the book or not.
It is useless to point out the hypocrisy and lack of shame to the left because they really don’t care. They will use your commitment to honesty and your shame against you in order for them to win. I don’t endorse stooping to their level, but I do think the sooner we realize where they are coming from, the less time we will waste on pointing out their hypocrisy and lack of shame, and the more we can focus on the ineffectiveness of their policies.
Force them to account for the utter waste that all of their programs have been. Point out to others that the ONLY people who’ve ever benefitted from liberal policies are the liberal leaders who keep getting re-elected despite the destruction of those they claim to care about.
Report Post »designbyinspiration
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 8:14pmGood points all.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:44pmIf spooky dude is so worried, let him fund it
Report Post »rodamaa
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:47pmSpooky Dude is trying to destabilize our country this is just another nail in the coffin.
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:42pmA little known but very telling fact. The doctor who declared that there were “10,000″ back alley abortions every year admitted years later that he just pulled the number out of thin air.
Report Post »VerySeniorCitizen
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:00pmIf women are denied the ability to plan for a pregnancy, or once pregnant can’t get pre-natal care then yes, there will be many more back alley abortions. It seems that (mostly) men like to show their power over POOR women by refusing them the necessary care – for mammograms, cervical cancer screenings, care and information regarding their personal health it is highly likely that they will become desperate.
Let me explain to you what happened BEFORE Roe vs Wade when reproductive services were NOT readily available to women.
Do you know what a metal coat hanger looks like? You know, the kind you get with a pair of pants from the cleaner? Now, imagine a desperate woman – in a non sterile environment – having that coat hanger inserted into her uterus. Get the picture?
Tens of thousands of women lost their lives under these circumstances. So, YES, the lives of women ARE endangered. In fact we lose TWO lives – the unborn AND the mother? Is that what these Republican s want???
Many years ago a friend of mine was gang raped, ending in an unwanted pregnancy. A woman had very few rights in those days and she died after such a procedure.
I’m almost 80 but as a child I remember clearly hearing from my mother (who was a nurse) – “If the woman carried and birthed the first child, and the man carried and birthed the second, THERE WOULD NEVER BE A THIRD!” Think on that for a bit.””
Report Post »jmmjr49er
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:03pmRight On! The lie is true if you say it enough. Who said that? Oh I will ask Rep. Cohen (D) fromTennessee he knows.
Report Post »Rapunzel
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:28pm@Veryseniorcitizen
I hate to tell you this, but you have been lied to. This article has some excellent data:
http://www.grtl.org/docs/roevwade.pdf
including this:
As for the number of deaths from illegal abortions, in 1960 the total number of all
pregnancy-related deaths (from abortions as well as from childbirth and other problems
during pregnancy) was 1,579 (according to the Vital Statistics of the United States, Vol.
II, Mortality, Part A. 1960-77). To believe the pro-abortion argument that over 5,000
illegal abortion deaths occurred, one must believe that the 1,579 officially recorded
maternal deaths were all caused by illegal abortions and an additional 3,421 deaths were
also caused by illegal abortions and the death certificates were falsified to attribute the
death to something such as “heart attack” or “cirrhosis of the liver,” and that no woman
died from any other pregnancy-related cause. But in fact, for 1960, Vital Statistics
attributes 289 of those 1,579 deaths to abortion (legal and illegal).
In 1968, Vital Statistics reports 859 total pregnancy-related deaths; 133 of the 859
attributed to abortion.
By 1972, the year before the Supreme Court legalized abortion-on-demand
nationwide, there were 24 deaths from legal abortions and 39 from illegal abortions
(according to the Centers for Disease Control Abortion Surveillance, Annual Summary,
1978). Not only have pro-abortionists grossly exaggerated the number of illegal abortions
and deaths, they misrepresent what caused the decline in the number of abortion-related
deaths. It had nothing to do with legalization of abortion. The number had been dropping
steadily long before the first states legalized abortion. The real explanations are such
factors as the availability of better antibiotics, such as penicillin, the establishment of
intensive care units and better surgical techniques.
booger71
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:29pmDo you know what a metal coat hanger looks like?
You mean like now when a doctor kills a baby with scissors to the brain during a partial birth abortion?
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 8:10pm@ the Blaze:
There was no reason whatsoever to pull my post on this subject. Abortion is murder. If a woman chooses to harm herself in performing that murder she gets 0 sympathy from me. Pull it again and I will post it again!
This site has gone to hell. I will leave you with your liberal trolls. Have fun, I am going to go back to a real news outlet.
decendentof56
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 8:20pmThese hateful abortion-rights people will give any ficticious number to scare people. Yet, at the same time, accuse G Beck of scaring people when he has facts to back up his argument.
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 10:21pm@VerySeniorCitizen
You are living proof that propaganda works. I will support abortion the day they show a partial birth abortion on TV.
Feminists, and men, need to take personal responsibility for their own bodies and not murder an innocent child because of their mistakes.
And always remember: It’s not a choice. It’s an industry.
Report Post »VerySeniorCitizen
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 1:53pmRAPUNZEL. I understand that you ONLY visit right wing web-sites, so it doesn’t surprise me that you quote the Georgia Right to Life web-sits.
Try this one:————
http://socialistworker.org/2005-2/562/562_06_Abortion.shtml
Since your website is straight RIGHT WING and mine is a bit to the left, maybe we can agree that the truth is somewhere in the middle.
However, since I was born in the 1930s and abortion wasn‘t proclaimed to be LEGAL until the 1970s I’m sure you might agree that I have some knowledge of what happened BEFORE Roe vs Wade.
Report Post »VerySeniorCitizen
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 2:05pmNICKDERINGER
You might just think about the fact that women ARE NOT baby machines. I’ve lived thru the horrors of seeing a friend die before the act was declared legal.
As for ‘feminists’ taking responsibility for our own acts. I agree.
What I don’t agree with is those girls (not adult women) who don‘t even know what the word ’feminism’ means, but who become pregnant because they are uneducated about how to take responsibility, being victimized twice. They are victimized the first time by a MAN WHO ALSO DIDN’T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for HIS actions – and again for the rest of her life because she is now responsible for something she didn’t understand in the first place. So then we have two victims. The mother – and the child – who is an unwanted burden and, of course, I assume you know how unwanted children are terribly rejected and neglected – especially among the poor and uneducated.
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:42pmBoth sides are just pathetic.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:47pmMove-on, please cut the crap.
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:52pmIf Obama’s teleprompter malfunctioned and flashed the TRUTH and Obama chocked on that truth, could the HEIMLICH MANEUVER be applied in time to avoid Biden becoming President? http://commonsense21c.com/
APatriotFirst
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:54pmIf Planned Parenthood is defunded, and abortions are legal….it just means that women can pay for their abortion from their own money. No back alley needed. As for under aged girls, their parents can be informed and also pay. Still NO back alleys needed
Report Post »APatriotFirst
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 6:55pmBack alleys were needed ONLY when abortions were illegal.
Report Post »abc
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:02pmFirst, federal law ALREADY PROHIBITS FEDERAL FUNDING OF ABORTION. This is a fact. So this justification for the supposedly reasoned debate about abortion is a canard. The reality is that the GOP wants to defund Planned Parenthood to pay back its conservative voters. But abortion is legal in this country, and efforts by Planned Parenthood to educate women on their options, including abortion, are not illegal. This is a total waste of time.
Meanwhile, SD wants to pass a law allowing justified killings in the case of saving a fetus. This means that you can start to kill abortionists. This is sick!
Conservatives are allowed to harbor their own views about abortion, but they are not allowed to force those on the rest of us, nor should they be allowed to defund legal government efforts to teach women about their choices. And they definitely shouldn’t legalize the murder of abortionists, but that is what they are doing. In the name of “right to life.” Nice.
AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:13pmAbortions most certainly shouldn’t be tax payer funded. I agree on all that account.
Report Post »Diane TX
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:14pm@ A Patriot First:
Careful, you might make some Progressives heads explode with your commonsense logic. Of course, having to be responsible AND having to pay for your own abortion will probably also make Progressives heads explode.
Report Post »JoeBtfsplk
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:23pmAgree with those that say as long as abortion is legal – let the pregnantee pay-ee !!!
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:28pmHey if she can afford those nice shoes and that fancy dress, she could afford to pay to kill her baby. And who exactly is bumping up the prices at planned parenthood? The government should come and and put price controls on the amount someone should have to pay to have an abortion. Planned Parenthood should make it more affordable.Hey if we are going to have communism here it should cover all areas. (sarcasm)
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:30pm@abc,
“Conservatives are allowed to harbor their own views about abortion, but they are not allowed to force those on the rest of us …”
The conservative view about abortion is that it’s murder, so you’re d**n right we’re going to force that on the rest of you. I don’t want you to use my money to murder people.
Boss J
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:37pm@ABC- Pull your head out of your butt for 2 seconds before you start spouting off again.
“First, federal law ALREADY PROHIBITS FEDERAL FUNDING OF ABORTION. This is a fact. So this justification for the supposedly reasoned debate about abortion is a canard.”
If my tax $‘s aren’t going towards funding abortions then why isn’t there a totally separate wing of planned parenthood that has a completely separate set of books that handles counseling and teaching?
Planned parenthood works the exact same as the gov’t does, all of the money goes into a big pot and there is no separating what it is used for. You know, sice you libs love abortions so much, why don’t you all get together and fund it privately?
trolltrainer
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:38pmMurder is murder and it should be against the law. If a woman chooses to perform an abortion herself or have it done illegally then I really do not much care if she is hurt or killed.
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:39pmWho is telling this woman that this is her only choice? Would it be hollywood and people like David Letterman and Chelsy Hately who go around and make jokes about girls who get knocked up. They all laugh it up with the audeince. You would think that a girl wouldnt want to be made fun of for getting pregnant, so she might decide to get an abortion.
Report Post »Curator_JDR
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:48pmBut that is NOTHING compared to late-term abortions where you kill an existing human being and not just a viable one. The Left always plays these double games and makes straw hat arguments. Certainly no conservative woman would EVER have a late term abortion. The Left abets murder, Conservatives seek to minimize it.
http://www.marcrubin.com/dada.ivnu
watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 7:59pm@ ABC……I know you won’t be swayed but for others that might read your slant. First you are more naive than my 3 year old if you think that federal dollars don’t find their way into clinics that promote and cover the cost of abortions. There are many federal laws that are about as meaningless as chicken crap with more loopholes than Clinton has girlfriends. You should know that right? Bush trampled on many of them. Second you and I both know that planned parenthood just took some pretty big PR hits with their latest “here’s how you work your under aged prostitute how to” videos. This is nothing more than a PR stunt to try to shift focus off of what was going on in some of these clinics. I don’t think I even need to address the “kill an abortionist” comment. That was ridiculous to even bring up. Law or no law, no reasonable person is condoning that at all, but it sure makes a nice “straw man” though. Let’s not make the opposition look unreasonable by pointing out something most would not even entertain,….OK?
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 8:10pmIf you really care whether federal funds are being used for this abomination called abortion…HR217..Title X Abortion Provider Prohibition Act…call or email your representative TODAY!…
Report Post »APatriotFirst
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 8:13pm@ abc
If women in 2011 do not know their choices by now, they are pretty stupid and pathetic women. At 65, I knew my choices way back in the 50′s, 60′s etc etc. All it takes is a little reading and watch the stuipid MSM to know the choices.
By the way, my choice was to have all 3 of my children.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 8:16pmWrong, Americansoldier!
Report Post »The supporters of abortion are pathetic, not the opponents of abortion. Just in case you think I am some religious zealot, I am not. I don’t attend church, but I can at least tell the difference between right and wrong.
Taking a human life is MURDER! Got it? That is WRONG! So, do you have no problem with a perfectly alive baby should be sucked out of a woman’s womb? No problem for you? Do you have no problem with a baby’s brain sucked out?
There is black and white, right and wrong, good and bad, chocolate and vanilla. Take a stand for life, because what is next is something that you like will be considered bad by someone else. Geez!
abc
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 8:20pmOtherHand,
“I know you won’t be swayed but for others that might read your slant. First you are more naive than my 3 year old if you think that federal dollars don’t find their way into clinics that promote and cover the cost of abortions. There are many federal laws that are about as meaningless as chicken crap with more loopholes than Clinton has girlfriends. You should know that right? Bush trampled on many of them.”
So enforce the law. But the GOP leaders keep lying and saying that the laws are not there. They are. And ignorant conservatives continue to believe that those laws don’t exist. They do. And the amount of federal money going to fund abortions is negligible, according to multiple studies, including one done by the GAO a couple of years ago. The lies go on and on, thanks to the ignorance on our side.
“Second you and I both know that planned parenthood just took some pretty big PR hits with their latest “here’s how you work your under aged prostitute how to” videos.”
The video in question is a hoax. It is as false as the one showing a supposed pimp and prostitute ask ACORN how to avoid taxes. This was not a real situation, and ACORN was found by the GAO to have never misappropriated funds. It was a circus act to make it impossible for members of Congress to continue to fund an organization. That fake, gotcha smear campaign that worked so well with ACORN is being tried again. This time, the members of Congress will not fall for it again. Just as the media rightly attacked Andrew Breitbart for smearing Shirley Sherod, they have exposed this highly edited video and smear campaign. It will not work this time.
“This is nothing more than a PR stunt to try to shift focus off of what was going on in some of these clinics.”
The stunt was orchestrated by conservatives to undercut the credibility of Planned Parenthood, not by PP. You don’t have your facts right.
“I don’t think I even need to address the “kill an abortionist” comment. That was ridiculous to even bring up. Law or no law, no reasonable person is condoning that at all, but it sure makes a nice “straw man” though. Let’s not make the opposition look unreasonable by pointing out something most would not even entertain,….OK?”
What a strange comment to make in light of the facts:
1. It was republicans introduced a bill to expand the definition of justified killing to include those attempting to prevent the killing of a fetus
2. Straw man argument or not, the law clearly makes it easier to acquit someone who murders an abortionist, so this is the logical consequence of this law (according to legal experts commenting on it)
So, either Republicans in SD are stupid or they really do want to make it easier to kill an abortionist with impunity.
Please tell me where my logic is wrong, or apologize for suggesting that it is inappropriate to bring this up in light of the current debate over abortion. It reveals much about the extreme measures that the anti-choice crowd will go to impose their views of morality on the rest of us. Smear campaigns are not enough. They apparently want to make it easier to commit “justified killings,” which I’ll just call murder.
nptden
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 8:23pmWas that Dr. in Philly, black and a Democrat?…the one who aborted living kids?
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 8:44pmABC….to retort, why was the lady featured in the video fired and why is PP now having courses for their employees and publicly stating they are addressing the matters internally? And there was more than one video, there were several. My point on the SD law was that most reasonable people will not condone killing of an abortionist anymore than the killing of the unborn. It is disingenuous to say this is the position of the pro-life crowd in general. Just like me saying that the pro-choice crowd is all for partial birth abortion. They are not so if I used that to point out a flaw in my opposition you would rightly disapprove. See there we can have some common ground. The laws being proposed are an attempt to close some of the perceived loopholes in the existing federal laws. Like you rightly said they are trying to make sure that the intent of the Federal law against funding of abortion is preserved. Since some new federal laws could provide some “back-door” entrances for federal money. So they are just trying to do what you have suggested.
Report Post »MOVETERAN
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 8:49pmMan you would think with a name like move on they would get with the program and move on. They seem to be moving slower than molasses in winter time.
Report Post »nosycophant
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 9:31pmJust sterilize the hanger and if women are so concerned that it is there body why dont they act that way because by other than rape who let the man put it in? Move! move on.
Report Post »ixmfourxi
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 9:37pmI agree, both sides revolt to kindergarten tactics. We vote in adults but once they are there BAM! We are hearing whinny babies who point fingers.
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 9:48pm@ABC and AMERICANSOLDIER
Report Post »You are aware of the “techniques” used to abort a baby, right? It may be legal but it doesn’t make it right. These “procedures” are cruel and barbaric…..just as the institution of slavery was. Slavery was once legal in this country. To sit there and act like pro-life people just want to deny a woman’s right to live freely in this country is absolutely pathetic. Is that the very best argument that a “smart Progessive” can come up with? I am a staunch Conservative and an even more staunch pro-lifer…..I am all for a woman’s right to choose her career, her education, to own her own property or business, choose her own husband, and to live her life freely. However, when it comes to abortion, she is not making a decision that affects only herself……the child must be considered. Progressives try to label the baby as only “a blob of tissue” and an abortion as a “procedure”……this is grossly irresponsible. Your new hero, Dr. Gosnell of the Philadelphia women’s clinic, would revel in your support……but HE is the murderer…..not the pro-life people who oppose what he did…….only ridiculously sad individuals, such as ABC and AMERICANSOLDIER, can support such criminals and the “good works” that they do. Abortion kills little boy babies and little girl babies. It does not discriminate in that regard…..more than 53 MILLION in the United States alone since Roe vs. Wade was decided in 1973……please explain how that is a “rare” procedure…..
Showtime
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 9:57pmThe GOP wants to defund Planned Parenthood. Why should taxpayer dollars be funding abortions? There are a lot of places that need to be defunded, for that matter.
The Liberals are just calling abortions “back alley” for the emotional effect so they can point their crooked fingers at the GOP.
On a side note, Fox News said tonight that somewhere in the neighborhood of a quarter of a million jobs were added to the federal government in the last two years. If those people were laid off, what would that do to the unemployment numbers? I think they said about 230,000 jobs had been added.
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 10:02pmthank you hillbillysam…couldn’t have said it better myself…pro-choice is no better than pro-murder!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 10:21pmIf Planned Parenthood really worked .. women would not be seeking abortions .. HOW ABOUT SOME BIRTH CONTROL or SELF CONTROL … I found it worked for ALL my reproductive years.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 10:23pmIt is legalized murder. LEGALIZED MURDER. Go ahead and cry for the murderer. I do too, but I cry even more for the child. We need to stop PC and maybe we could stop the causes for unwanted babies. But we can’t keep playing like its OK, it is not and surely has led to the curse which is upon our nation.
Report Post »No1YaKnow
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 10:47pmHere’s the real issue–MoveOn (as well as other arms of George Soros) want to change the nature of the debate so that you ignore the REAL issue. Conservatives know abortion will not be made illegal at this point, we know it won’t. Only SCOTUS can overturn it. However, NO American should be forced to put a portion of their hard earned money towards what we view as murder masquerading as “birth control”. Birth control is what is used to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Abortion is the murder of life when you did nothing to prevent the pregnancy. I believe there are exceptions–rape, incest, but at the same time, in BOTH cases, it should be done at the onset. Not late term, and absolutely not partial birth. So, again–if sheeple everywhere want to argue the NONSENSE that the GOP is trying to outlaw abortion, let them be blissfully ignorant. Those of us with brains know this is not the argument. The left wants every American to be forced to fund their eugenics (Margaret Sanger) and put a pink “I am woman hear me roar” bow on it and call it about a woman’s choice. Sick.
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:14pmSo the doctor in Philadelphia who was performing back alley abortions is a Republican? Are the politicians in Philadelphia Republicans? Are the regulators that couldn’t be bothered to actually investigate the women that were getting STDs or even dying – were they Republicans?
I think not.
Report Post »dhert
Posted on February 15, 2011 at 11:23pmDid they actually recruit Lisa Edelstein or did they just get a girl with similar hair and take some footage from House? Notice the outfit when she opens the door is vastly different from the girl walking down the hallway to the closet with a hanger in it.
Report Post »thevamprn
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 2:27amThink about this, if you destroy an eagle egg, you go to prison. Destroying a human egg is just fine. I guess since people are not an endangered species, the life of a human being is only worth the cost of a back door federally funded abortion. The problem today is that it seems that most of our population does not have any concept of personal responsibility for their own actions or inactions.
Report Post »Miguelito
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 7:59amSome people have no shame! When lies appears to become truth, we are done!
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 8:30amThe very name of the pro-“choice” movement is a canard.
Report Post »Women DO have a choice. It’s whether and how to engage in the activity that produces fertilization.
Abortion is one thing technology (and immorality) have provided us with to offer a woman an escape from the CONSEQUENCES of their choice. Just because the technology exists doesn‘t mean it’s a new choice, on a moral par with the previous choices. It’s still just an attempt to avoid responsibility for having already MADE the REAL choice.
I refuse to comment on ABC other than to say that he has no honest bone in his body.
Stuck_in_CA
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 8:31amMembers of the Party of Death, doing what they do best…lies and fear. The truth is seldom on their side.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 8:34amAPatriotFirst
Report Post »“If Planned Parenthood is defunded, and abortions are legal….it just means that women can pay for their abortion from their own money… ”
Right. And the blood of millions of dead babies, would be SOLELY on THEIR hands — not on the unwilling taxpayers.
HillsGal
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 9:00amThe origins of abortion on demand come from Planned Parenthood whose original founder was Margaret Sanger. Her beliefs are well documented.
On blacks, immigrants and indigents:
“…human weeds,‘ ’reckless breeders,‘ ’spawning… human beings who never should have been born.”
The purpose in promoting birth control was “to create a race of thoroughbreds,” she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)
“The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”
Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race
(Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)
On the purpose of birth control:
On the rights of the handicapped and mentally ill, and racial minorities:
“More children from the fit, less from the unfit — that is the chief aim of birth control.” Birth Control Review, May 1919, p. 12
Margaret Sanger was also part of the “Progressive Movement” attempting to change the country during her time and still trying to change the country today through election to the U.S. office. Among the current members are of the Progressive Caucus are: Barney Frank, Charlie Rangel, Jess Jackson, Jr., Jim McDermott, Jim Moran, James McGovern, Maxine Waters, Henry Waxman and so many more… you just need to check for yourselves. The point here is that they have an agenda – to take over this country and shape it into their own image and by their own rules. They have been working on this since the early 1900’s.
Abortion is really one of their methods to control women and their children and not the other way around. Since abortion was first initiated women have gone into the work force leaving their children for others to raise. Abortion benefits men since with sexual freedom women have become more apt to have a lot more partners. More households are being headed by women than at any other time in our history. The goal here is to destroy the family unit and to attack the moral fiber of this country so we will be submissive and accepting of more and more evil as we slide down the slippery slope. It is time to wake up to what is really being foisted upon the American people in the name of their own good and especially women. This world is far from perfect and it is the human condition that makes us prey to people like Margaret Sanger and others because we are looking for a short cut in this life. If you think this world is all there is for you or they can convince you to buy into their short cuts than so be it and good luck to you. If you believe there is a life after this one than be alert to anyone offering you a short cut because it is a test of your moral fiber and of your respect for yourself and others and the spirit of God within you. By getting others to fund abortion makes everyone complicit in every abortion taking place in this country. Be sure you find out about what abortion is, and each method – Suction/Curettage, Saline abortion, and the final trimester abortion also known as a Hysterotomy (Opposite of C-Section since the baby’s cord is cut and the baby is submerged back into the amitotic fluid and drowned). The result of all of these is death and even abortions performed in the most sterile conditions may be fatal for the mother too since some are “blind” operations.
Report Post »Conserve21
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 9:17amGermany -> Hitler killed 11 million people.
Report Post »USA -> killed 50 million helpless babies.
Cape_Lookout_RW_Extremist
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 9:26amhttp://www.silentscream.org/
Report Post »Alvin691
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 9:51amHow are BOTH sides pathetic? There is nothing stopping private funding of abortions, like health insurance or liberals setting up charities to pay for abortions. It’s just about PUBLIC funding.
Report Post »Abby Normal
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 10:25amWho died and made women God? Abortion is murder, and they are using my tax dollars to fund it, screw that…and to all you abortion lovers – KMA! You’ll get your judgement soon, by a higher power than anything on Earth…abort at your own RISK!
Report Post »IStill
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 11:37amSpeaking from a 30 something – pro-life woman’s perspective; maybe it’s time to declare war on woman! I am fed up with woman who take no responsibility for their actions. I am not speaking of those who have been raped, that is something that would be very personal decision.
Report Post »Woman have taken this lib thing to far! It has ruined our boys and men and quite frankly, made it harder on females than it has made easier. Thank you for the vote and the womans rights, but bring back the real women will you please!!
Chet Hempstead
Posted on February 16, 2011 at 1:47pmABC
Report Post »Okay, the proposed South Dakota law does NOT make it legal to kill abortionists. However, the fact that reasonably intelligent people seem to be unaware that this is the case convinces me that lunatics who might consider killing doctors are likely to think that they could use such a law to escape punishment. I also wonder if assaults on pregnant women that fall into the narrow range of being brutal enough to endanger her fetus while stopping short of endangering the mother’s life are such a widespread occurrence that it is vitally important to pass this law for any legitimate reason. I can’t help suspecting that at least a few of the people promoting the law are secretly hoping that lunatics who would consider killing doctors will mistakenly believe that this law condones their actions.