New Pic Shows Aftermath of Man Tied to Chair by Cops and Pepper-Sprayed ‘Until He Died’
- Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:11pm by
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Did Lee County Sheriff’s Deputies in southern Florida tie down, pepper-spray, and eventually kill a disturbed man who was arrested for public intoxication?
That’s the account and accusation relayed by Reason.com. Over two years ago, 62-year-old Ohioan Nick Christie was detained for public intoxication while on a trip in the Tampa, Florida area.
The man’s wife asked that he be taken to the hospital, but Lee County cops allegedly decided instead to “strip Christie naked, tie him to a chair, cover his face, and then pepper spray him repeatedly, until he died.”
A new picture recently obtained by a local news crew shows Christie’s body, swollen and stained, during the incident. And it’s sparking fresh controversy over what happened.
At the time, his death was ruled a homicide because he was restrained and repeatedly pepper-sprayed by law enforcement officers. But to this day, no one has been charged with a crime, and the Lee County State Attorney cleared the sheriff’s office of criminal fault in the case.
Here is a video, courtesy of WTVT-TV, that gives an overview of the case:
“I was shocked. This was something out of a horror movie,” says Joyce Christie, the man’s wife.
She’s filed a wrongful death lawsuit, which alleges Nicks was pepper sprayed 10 times over a 48-hour period.
Monshay Gibbs was a deputy trainee at the jail at the time. Under oath in a video, she said that Christie had ”a spit mask on and was naked,” during his detainment. Gibbs testified that Christie pleaded with guards to take off the spit mask because he couldn’t breathe
He was eventually taken to the hospital but died of heart failure.
“This photo is a picture of a man who is strapped to a chair naked inside a jail for hours with a hood over his face,” Cleveland-based lawyer Nick DiCello, who represents the Christie family, told the station. “That evokes thoughts of being tortured.”
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Comments (669)
burnteye86
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:50pmIs this in Egypt? Libya? Iran?
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:55pmThink “National Defense Act” and “Patriot Act”
Ruler4You
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:17pmWell, welcome to hell, boys. Welcome, to America.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:19pmNope this is the future of America under Obama and his criminal authorities.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:25pmWTF?!?!?!
WTF?!?!?!
IS THIS REAL?
They actually did this to a person….?
You have gotta be freakin kidding me. This is outrageous even to me…
They waterboarded him to death with pepper spray?
Report Post »kenXIII
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:25pmif this is not standard practice (which i hope its not) they should be charged
Report Post »it sounds like everything they did was intentional even if he was a drunk are these the kind of people you want in control of you? would you expect to be free after doing this to an individual? so why the free pass for them?
progressiveslayer
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:27pmBut we’ll be safe from terrorists right? I mean that’s the reason for all these laws that violate the constitution.Face it patriots,with laws like the patriot act and soon the ndaa and cops like this,we’re screwed,and we’re headed for a totalitarian regime soon.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:33pmThat’s the problem with America.
The “people in authority” are immune from criminal prosecution — even congress people — who violate the Constitution, make illegal laws.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:41pmIn Florida the saying goes, “Arrive on vacation, leave on probation”. Death is a different story and some Cop(s) need to go to Prison for this.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:45pmwelcome to the USSA.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:52pmThe Cop(s) would already be in jail if a black man died (sorry, I mean was killed) liked this and they were white Cop(s)!
Report Post »lizziebee
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:00pmWho’s Disturbed????????????????
Report Post »This is beyond anything I have ever heard in my life….disgusting beyond words. Where did these psychopaths come from???? If this poor soul had been a dog the nation would be up in arms. God help us.
biohazard23
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:04pmWell, I guess this makes Abu Ghraib look like the Holiday Inn. Jeez, what is WRONG with those people??? Lee County is supposed to be a nice area. Ft Myers, Sanibel Island, and Captiva Islands are there. WTF???
Report Post »ArmedPrincess
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:27pm@Snowleopard,
No this is not the future, this is the here and a couple months ago. These cops should be in general lock up of the worst prison in their state. This is a disease that has plagued law enforcement for far too long and needs to be pulled out by the roots. The fault lies in the people of this country for turning a blind eye to rape of lady Liberty.
Barack Obama is a puppet who couldn’t talk his way out of a paper bag without his teleprompter. The system is whats wrong, & no one person(though I can’t even stand to hear him speak). This country needs to wake up, to hold accountable all of those who have perverted our once great nation. Then we must all stand up, dust ourselves off, and get back on the horse that is the founding ideals of our nation.
Voting in Ron Paul is the first step on the long road to salvation, if we choose that path. If as a nation we choose any other path, then darker and scarier times await us all. The best part is that every moment is another chance for us to turn this around. It will only be too late when the round-ups begin.
For Liberty,
Report Post »Ron Paul 2012!
common cents
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:41pmThis is the new normal, wake up America. throw them all out and replace with normal non career people before it comes to Civil War, Don’t laugh, it’s coming soon .
Report Post »FlamingFartSyndrome
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 5:43pmNo, this is the future of the United States of America.
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 5:46pmremember in martial law, these will be our police officers.
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 5:47pmThis is the norm in America now? As opposed to when? Two years ago?
Well this incident took place “Two and a half years ago” so this is neither normal nor foreboding of things to come.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 7:01pmYes..but they can kidnap you off the street..and you..never to be seen or heard from again…no charges..no trial…no jury…and they can do whatever they want to you…NEO COMS
Report Post »Dkoonz
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 7:16pmThey need to get to the bottom of this and punish those who are responsible for torturing and killing this man.
Report Post »Vapor Trail
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 7:27pmSnow, don’t be naive, the militarization of our police has been going on for more than 25 years. Yes the latest atrocity committed was Obama signing NDAA2012, but lets remember its not like he wrote it and then voted in favor of it and then signed it into action (I say action because its unconstitutional and therefore not law) 535+ handlers helped him.He or they who wield the power make the rules.
Report Post »Everything transpiring in the NOW was all planned years in advance.
Bush signed the patriot act, (Enabling act) that was crafted before the OKC bombing.
I know many get crazy when people say 0/11 was an inside job, yet in a way it was. Like many false flag operations of history, operation able danger made clear the treat and manner of attack.
But went ignored, as the planned invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan, and several more nations Libya, Syria, Iran etc. needed an excuse to get the American people behind it. And you all fell for it hook, line, and sinker.
9/11 was allowed to happen on the pretext of fighting global terrorism, and the writing on the wall has been clear for many years that anyone that disagrees with or doesn’t go along with the elites plan of total global government is an enemy combatant, a terrorist by label.
That’s one of the things that cracks me up about so many blazers, all caught . up and worried about Iran, as your government wants you to be, while missing and not paying attention to the real enemy….your government and the men behind the curtain.
techengineer11
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 7:30pmRussia and China both need to come over with bombs and install some Democracy for us.. lol
Report Post »Treaty
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 7:31pmMurder!
Report Post »Murder!
Murder!
Murder!
Murder!
ntxjetta
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 7:36pmWhat does the Patriot Act have to do with police brutality and murder?
Report Post »neverfinal
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 7:50pmThis is what the DOJ should be looking at or are they the ones responsible? The Ob Army in our prisons?
Report Post »unsafe
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 8:02pmIts time to start taking them out one at a time.
Report Post »Anarcho Capitalist
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 8:03pmThe Police State, just in its infancy as of yet but has been building for quite some time. I’m glad they will be instituting check points soon. Cant you just smell the FEMA camps?
Report Post »neverfinal
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 8:18pmGITMO has much better treatment. Where are all of those bleeding heat Liberal’s? They scream over terrorist being water boarded, but this is alright? Oh yes, that’s wrong> They are the same people that want abortions by the tone on innocent babies. This isn’t as bad to them when they like to have the scull of a baby stabbed with scissors then pried open. If that’s Ok then this must be a walk in the park. Where is Eric Holder and the DOJ, or are they behind this one, too.
Report Post »Ron2
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 8:31pmWe don’t hear half of what cops and Jail and prison guards to to prisoners while handcuffed. So many of our police and Jail and Prison guards are allowed to treat prisoners any way they please, because they know other police officers and guards will lie for them. I’m sure surprised the one female guard said anything and you can bet other guards and her supervisors will take care of her for telling the truth! Possibly some prisoner will jump her and no one will come to her aid! Our police, guards,state attorneys and judges have been given to much power!
Report Post »ZengaPA65
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 9:04pmGet used to it. It will be commonplace in America if anyone other than Ron Paul gets elected.
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 9:13pmOur new ‘Welcome to America’ ad! Should make all the neocons like McCain, Bachmann, West, Rubio, Ryan, Canter etc who VOTED FOR the NDAA very proud because this will be the fate of MANY Americans, too, once those FEMA camps are up and running.
Report Post »If after watching this, the neocons DO NOT WAKE UP and vote for LIBERTY and FOUNDING PRINCIPLES, we are doomed.
President Ron Paul 2012
ashestoashes
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 9:16pm@VAPORTRAOL I remember that there was a warning that was ignored about the attack on 9/11..At first I rejected the idea of an inside job..but you have to remember what cronies Bush was with the Muslims. it’s nothing to get their own to give their lives for “the cause” Ben Laden was educated here in the states..and who was in office and helped them out when Russia was invading them..was in not Clinton? And remember..Clinton and Bush were like “best friends” Bush belongs to what..Skull and Bones? THere is so much that we may never really know for sure…but I do know that I don’t want anymore puppets for the NWO..Bush is on record talking about it as was Henry Kissinger.. Our government is supposed to work for us..When is the last time the American people had a say in the workings of it.? I saw Ron Paul as a safety net…we need it now..or we may never have another chance..
Report Post »bdwatcher
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 9:49pmThis will be the way things will be when Obama signs NDAA. Government will decide who is a criminal. There is cover-ups so obvious now. Wait until this bill is in full force.
Report Post »kenXIII
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 9:55pmoh and do not forget, these “people” are now armed to the teeth more so now Than ever in there history
Report Post »singleparent
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 10:03pmThis kinda crap from cops happens all the time this guy just happened to die… if you think it dont your crazy…
Report Post »Anti_Spock
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 10:51pmFire and Imprison… ALL Lee County Sheriff’s Deputies
Report Post »JDBlaze
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 11:01pmNo, sadly this is america, and that right there was “Florida’s finest” being Florids’s worst. IMO, they should be brought up on charges with no favoritism. They killed a man, and being police does not make them above the law they are supposed to enforce.
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 11:52pmThat is one the FBI has to get involved in,,,
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 12:53amYou just keep making that you instill the fear of the police in your children, yep, and that way the increasing number of bad cops can abuse Americans.
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 1:37amNazi Germany? Communist China? Cuba? Russia? Why yes we are…everyday we are more and more like all of these countries. We are rapidly losing our freedoms and liberties and we have essentially lost the Constitution.
Report Post »teyler
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 5:48amI am surprised that both Fox and Reason did not do their homework on this story before printing it. WTVT is based in Tampa which is in Hillsborough County,not Lee County. Now Lee County is going to get slammed, they hasve no jurisdiction inn Hillsborough County.
I’m just saying!!!
Report Post »JayCee
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 6:46amThese incidents are probably not on the increase.
Thanks to technology and the new media we are just now becoming more enlightened.
At least in this Seatlle incident the police didn’t torture the murdered victim to death:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnKLEOXenow&feature=player_embedded
Report Post »Jknapp814
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 8:23amI doubt any of you have been to jail, however that spit mask is mesh I dont know how he couldnt breathw he couldnt breathe. Plus if you read the article the cops were cleared! Whenever theres an accident you can bet someone will be there to sue someone else.
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 10:29amNo, think poor hiring practices. Somebody didn’t want to babysit him in the hospital and felt they knew better. If the story is true, a whole bunch of cops belong in prison.
Report Post »Jacque
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 10:38amIf this was a black dude, Jesse, Al and eric “the racist” holder would be all over this. But he is “just white’ so he sort of deserves it, that is their reasoning. It more important for holder to focus on allowing voter fraud and keeping his boy in power. Because remember “his people” suffered so much…300 yrs later they still can’t seem to move on.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 10:47amThey think they can do anything to us because we have become their enemy. We make them work harder than they believe they should because sooooo many of us appear not to have any ability to maintain ourselves as orderly citizens. So when they get ahold of us they act our their own aggressions on the not so fortunate. Its no different than our police 30-40 years ago taking a night stick to you while your in custody just because they could and say other prisoners beat you up. I support cops,,,good ones but not cart blanche.
Report Post »MajorityLeft
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 10:55amNope.. it’s republican cops gone wild
Report Post »Bluefish49
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 11:08amWhere is Eric Holder on this one….oh yea…this was a white guy.
Report Post »MarianS
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 11:13amLee County Florida…
http://www.andjustice4all.org
Report Post »Shnabber
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 1:16pmLibyans were not behind ww1 or ww2 and were not behind the murder of around 1.5 millon Iraqis since usa invastion to the country,, we are more and more superior than you..
Report Post »only-rush-can-save-us
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 1:34pm>> Is this in Egypt? Libya? Iran?
No. This is America. But if obama has his way, we’ll turn into Egypt or Iran. We need to get that commie out of the white house and get some common sense in there. Rick Perry is a righteous god fearing man and we need him to be president. He will protect us.
Report Post »SDM-Shepherd
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 2:13pmTHESE are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated. Britain, with an army to enforce her tyranny, has declared that she has a right (not only to TAX) but “to BIND us in ALL CASES WHATSOEVER” and if being bound in that manner, is not slavery, then is there not such a thing as slavery upon earth. Even the expression is impious; for so unlimited a power can belong only to God.
Thomas Paine
Report Post »jptrucker
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 3:07pmEvery one of those cops should be jailed for life after they are tied naked to a chair and pepper sprayed. They took an oath to serve and protect….WTF ….When were and who were they protecting ? This is an amazing case of police brutality.There is no excuse in the world for that to ever happen.Were they afraid for their lives ? Public hanging would be to mild a punishment for those cops.This is beyond belief.
Report Post »Matthew
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 4:08pmno, this is the USA where our freedom of speech allows for slanted, biased, idiology driven news stories like this to be propped up as truth. If you don’t like our law enforcement now, just wait to see what they will be replaced with.
Report Post »ArmedPrincess
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 4:29pm@ BlueDog
I think you misunderstood where I am coming from. Jose Guerena did not fire a single round, that is fact in this case and why passions are running so high. If he leveled his weapon that is one thing, if he was not sighting in it is another. I have repeatedly said that I do not blame all LEO’s, and that I understand the good out number the bad. However, the sentiment that seems to be running through the thin blue line at the moment, and even from your own typing, is that 90% of Americans want to kill you. I am in no way saying you can’t defend yourself. Yes you have that right, and no no one has the right to kill you. But every citizen has that same right. There is a difference between holding a weapon and threatening with it. That is the hard choices you and your brothers are faced with. I don’t envy it, and I do sympathize. We could go back and forth on both sides of tragedies that should not have occurred. And that is where I am really coming from, both sides are to quick to point the finger at the other, while we are both being played by a system that is out of control. I don’t want to see anyone killed, I don’t want to see one more widow on any side. There is too much of it. We all draw our lines in life. It’s Christmas and it was not my intention to slander any good officers reputation. As I said I don’t want to see one more innocents hurt, I am sure we can agree on that. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 9:26pmNo, think “Redneck Goober Good-Ol-Boy Cops.”
Report Post »The Blu Morpho
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 9:28pmAnd of course RACIST ******* NAMED THE-MONK has to bring race into a case that has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. People like YOU are the problem Monk. YOU obviously are a racist because you couldn’t wait to make your little racist point. You were obviously not even thwarted by the fact that this isn’t a story about race. I’m just writing to let you know that RACISTS BURN IN HELL and that YOU SUCK.
Report Post »ConservativeCharlie
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 3:02amWell just a few months ago some officers in Cali beat a homeless man to death, caved his head in while about 2 dozen bystanders pleaded for the police to stop beating the uncounscios homeless man. but in that case, I beleive a couple of the officers were finally charged with murder.
Report Post »MarianS
Posted on December 25, 2011 at 10:05amPlease DO NOT allow this to continue , Stop and Hold them accountable for senseless death of Nick Christie by the hand of the Lee County Sheriff’s deputies at the Fort Myers, Lee County Jail in Florida..
Please be heard : http://www.care2.com/causes/florida-man-tortured-and-pepper-sprayed-to-death-by-police.html#comment-2979785
Report Post »maw1124
Posted on December 26, 2011 at 8:26amOne thing that always seems to be over looked in these cases is this guy must have taken his drug of choice which caused him to freak out and scare people. Those scared people called the police to come deal with what they could not do. For him to be strapped to a chair which is the restraint chair means he continued to be an idiot fighting with the police and attempting to harm himself or others. Spit shield is just that who’s going to let some one spit on you. In the worst cases that end in death you always see hart failure. People then point to the greatest evil the police that some how caused a hart failure by strapping him to a chair, and never think about what this guy had did to start the incident and even think that maybe hart failure is the end result of an overdose. Id love to see the tox screen of these guys but never do. It also seems that everyone is freaking out on the use of the chair which by the way is the polices kinder gentler method you know back in the days when people who were violent where just beaten. Oh and for the people that will hate on this thought process neither of us know all the details on this case just a blip from the guys family and lawyers so this is a general statement for these types of media releases. I also like how the less lethal tool of choices ie tazer, chemical spray is always attacked. How about we just get ride of those and go back to the old baton.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on December 26, 2011 at 9:50amMove along, Folks- nothing to see here.
Report Post »They’re Only Ones, so nothing untoward happened. Trust me- cops are here to help us.
Secret Squirrel
Posted on December 26, 2011 at 10:38am.
Report Post »Let the citizens arm themselves,
then fire the cops.
I’ll take my chances with the criminals.
FoxholeAtheist
Posted on February 27, 2012 at 9:51amThose are all theocracies so, take a good look. If Santorum gets elected, this will become the norm. This is what Santorum wants.
Report Post »HairRazor
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 3:58pm“momma, we messed up at work last night.. we were just funnin with a drunk and Bubba and Jessie messed around an kilt him with that damn spray. I told ‘em but.. they kep on”.. and so it goes in dumbassville. apolitical group I would guess.. or maybe Roo Paul supporters with their dime bags out back…
Report Post »Fireguarding
Posted on March 2, 2012 at 12:53amAll I know is Tampa won’t be seeing any sign of me or my family. My mother used to live here; I got her out two years ago, not even knowing about this incident… What the Hell? Torture? HOMICIDE? And NO ONE is charged??? Homicide, but the department is cleared of wrongdoing? Yeah, I can think of hundreds of better vacation spots. Buh-bye!
Report Post »Oldphoto678
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:50pmGood conservative cops I bet.
Report Post »mils
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:56pmgood “union cops” committing murder of a US citizen..and getting away with it..
Report Post »booger71
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:05pmNothing conservative about them. They are common union thugs that should be charged and convicted of murder.
Report Post »krenshau
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:14pmConservative or liberal, these cops should see justice. If the system won’t provide it, then citizens should administer justice. Cops should keep in mind that they too have to sleep.
Report Post »pecopfc
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:14pm…Creep….
Report Post »kenXIII
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:31pmi hope people are on top of this when it comes to demanding justice…….two years later……….??????
Report Post »proudinfidel54
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:33pmJust like a “DEMON-CRAT”, you never miss an oppertunity to show your ignorance, Surely you are being missed at Media Matters by now.
Report Post »spasm
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:34pmThey were neither cops or part of a union. But forget the facts!!! All cops must die now. Thank you “The Blaze” for posting this article filled with mistakes.
Report Post »SquishyBear
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:37pmare you so desperate to demonize “the other side” that you need to attribute every evil thing you see to “the other side”. that’s pretty douche-y dude.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:37pmConservative Cops? With a name like Monshay? Maybe some are conservative, but not all.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:47pmThey were neither cops or part of a union.
Report Post »=======================
They were deputy sheriffs working for the county jail, and yes they are unionized.
Florida_Patriot
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:57pmAs a resident of Lee County, I‘m pretty sure the Sherriff’s office was not a union shop at the time this incident is cited. They voted to unionize this past August.
Report Post »SistaTriscuit
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:11pmOh yes… I‘m quite certain they must’ve been CONSERVATIVE…. because, you know, I mean, it’s ALWAYS those filthy rotten conservatives out there crapping on cop cars, having sex under tarps in the street, committing rapes upon people they are supposed to be standing shoulder-to-shoulder with in a unified movement against “the man”, putting their children on train tracks & using them as human barricades against the cops, tossing bags of steel & bricks over a railing onto police & passersby, shooting up heroin in the same tent with young children…. oh yes, those filthy & morally defunct conservatives. Man, those Tea Parties were nothing but a cesspool of crime & filth!
Oh…. wait a minute – that wasn’t the Tea Partiers… that was the LIBERAL MOONBAT “occupiers”. Let’s just forget all about the facts we see in our society everyday, where the “anything goes” leftist filth commit heinous crimes & get a free pass, while conservatives can‘t even get a pass on crap they didn’t even do.
Never ceases to amaze me how easily the sheep are led like lemmings right over the cliffs of stupidity. Forget history, forget reality.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:13pmJust like the SWAT team that murdered a Marine in Arizona while issuing a search warrant because he was related to someone who may have sold drugs. In case you haven’t heard of the case, I’ll give you the details.
The SWAT team arrived at a Marine veteran’s home in the middle of the day while he was napping after having worked (literally) at the mine on the graveyard shift and his wife and children were also there. They set off his car alarm and before they identified themselves, his wife saw that men with masks and guns were outside. She awoke her husband for the last time and he took up his rifle and stood in the hallway and directed his wife and children into the closet around the corner for some semblance of safety. Right before knocking down the door, the SWAT team ID’d themselves as police, but seeing as how it is not unknown for criminals to impersonate LEO’s in order to bring harm to people, he kept his weapon at the ready. As soon as they broke down his door (seconds after announcing themselves) they saw him at the far end of the hall and holding a rifle. As far as they were concerned, this veteran, father, and US citizen was as guilty as sin and they fired over 70 rounds into his home and riddled his body with lead. One officer even shot blindly into the home from around the door frame. After they did this, they then kept paramedics from the scene for at least an hour and some report more than 2 hours.
We live in a police state and I remember Jose Guere
Report Post »Ravenheart77
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:18pmSeriously dude? What kind of a stupid @$$ comment is that?
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:19pmThe Blaze’s character counter is off and it cut off the name of a murdered Marine.
The man who was murdered in Arizona by a Tuscon SWAT “team” was Sergeant Jose Guerena / USMC. He is my age, my rank, married (like myself) and his only offense was to dare to protect his home from men with guns. I also have to mention that the “police” involved said that he fired the first shot. Investigators have proven this to be false as his weapon was never fired and was on safe at the time he was shot. The truth is that our “police” see us as nothing more than human livestock and that we have no rights but that which they decide. We need to enforce our natural and God-given rights everyday and I for one am sick of people questioning my rights to the point that I am ready to see police who question my rights as enemies of our nation, our Constitution, and my family; and people on that list are not long for this life in my eyes.
Report Post »JEB STUART
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 5:02pmAnd they can’t understand why some people feel compeled to great their aressting cop with a 9 mm. this is the future under obama.
Report Post »spasm
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 5:07pmBOOGER71 no they are not unionized….. You are not a cop because you work for a Sheriff’s department. They also have civilians, lawyers and other professionals that work for the Sheriff’s department. Cop is another term for Law Enforcement Officer….
Report Post »spasm
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 5:09pmJEB STUART Thank you “The Blaze” Another poster advocating violence to cops because of your untruthful article.
Report Post »FFTyranny
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 5:53pmYou sorry azz Lib.
This is a human being, tortured, stripped and pepper sprayed to death and this is what you have to say about it. You put your sorry azz political comment on him?
Yeah, like one comment I read. If this were a black dude. There would be riots in the streets.
Well I am to the point where I have had enough of you communist in my America. Polluting it with your words, your smell, yeah thats right I am bringing it!.
It’s time for any man who calls himself a man, a human, a man of God to start thinking about taking a stand against this regime and the past progressive regimes. The progressives in the Senate and the House. To act on our right as stated in the Constitution to remove these people and to remove all you socialist/communist from our America.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
Report Post »Bluedog78
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 6:33pmI wonder how many innocent men SGTB killed in Iraq who were only protecting their houses. I always give the military the benefit of the doubt when the media makes them out to be baby killers SGTB isn’t willing to give the AZ swat team the same benefit.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 7:34pm@bluedog78
Report Post »Then again SGBT was at war wasn’t he. The swat team is was not at war. They were playing at war on citizens. Big difference in my book.
arx
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 10:07pmBluedog. You manage to unjustifiably bash our military and in the same breath defend a swat team who murdered an innocent man in his own home, in front of his family. SGTB is exactly right, and there is no excuse for it. Nor is there an excuse for a man being pepper sprayed while being strapped to a chair.
I used to have nothing but respect for police. Now it seems every time I see one he is speeding without apparent cause, tailgating another driver without cause, or otherwise acting unlawfully in some way. And the last two I actually spoke to had HUGE chips on their shoulder, and I wasn’t the subject of the problem in either case. Protect and serve my arse…at least not anymore. Now it’s cruising around thinking they are lords of the neighborhood.
Maybe should should shove that piehole of your full of donuts the next time you feel compelled to speak. What’s worse, being a fat pig or an ignorant fool?
Report Post »Bluedog78
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 12:31amI knew I would touch a nerve with that one. See what happens when I use his own line of reasoning against him. SGTB was at war and I give him the benefit of the doubt like I do everyone that takes the oath and wears the uniform. But last time I checked, when a group of people wants to kill you because of the uniform you wear thats called a war. There is a war against cops here in the USA and alot of people on this website would like to get a kill under their belt. They openly fantasize about when they would be legally justified in doing it.
Just like I don’t condemn every military member because some of them are rabid criminals, ie: the squad that raped and shot a teenage girl in her home and murdered her family in Iraq, I wouldn’t expect intelligent conservatives to condemn hundreds of thousands of police officers across this country because some detention personnel in FL pepper sprayed a guy strapped to a chair, which I never defended.
SGTB was ranting about the guy here in AZ that got shot by the swat team serving a warrant signed by a judge. I already gave my 2 cents on that one when the blaze had the article up. Regrettable, yes, Justified, you bet. I’m sure all the keyboard commandos on here would prefer to have a dead cop on the guys porch, but luckily for the cops, it wasn’t their turn to die.
Report Post »ArmedPrincess
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 2:39am@Bluedog
I take issue with a few of your points, shooting someone who did not fire 70 times is not justified. It is not a crime to protect yourself and your family, and it is not a crime to keep or bear arms. I have nothing but the utmost respect for both military and law enforcement. The Sig in my pic was the service piece of a Navy Seal veteran, and Police veteran. He was a great friend to me and my family. His eyes were wide awake to what is going on, I suggest you open yours. If you are going to shoot first and ask questions later you should get another job. The life of a police officer is not easy, it is not safe, and you may die doing it. If you don’t understand that before you sign up, you have no business putting on that uniform. When you take that Oath, you are committing yourself to a higher standard, one of service, not of dictation.
Imagine for a moment that the FEMA camps are real, imagine that DHS takes over all law Enforcement inside the US, and all LEO’s are given snappy new black uniforms. Imagine that any self styled Patriot is labeled a Terrorist. Imagine indefinite detention orders come down for 6% of the population. Where do you stand then? How many would just follow orders because they believe that all of us just want to kill a cop anyways? Us vs Them, Him vs. Her, you are falling victim to the same divisional lines they have fed to general public, united we stood, divided we are all falling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie4keCrOkWI
Report Post »MTCOWBOY711
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 3:51amARX is right, take from some one who knows the difference. Cops are continually loitering on the wrong side of that thin blue line.
Report Post »Bluedog78
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 4:32am@Princess, If they come for the conservatives, as a subscriber to JBS literature they’ll be coming for me too. I know where I stand. So if 70 times was too many shots, then how many would have been justified? one? five? and since when do I have to wait to get shot before I shoot?
“If you are going to shoot first and ask questions later you should get another job.” Sorry, when somebody is pointing a gun at me, and I’m in uniform and have a warrant, I will always shoot first. Just because I took an oath doesn’t mean I have to die giving someone the benefit of the doubt. This cop did what you ask me to do, and left a widow. You see, yelling “put the weapon down” didn’t do anything for this guy but get him killed. I‘m glad the swat team didn’t hesitate.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f840ab50b2
Report Post »ArmedPrincess
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 12:44pm@Bluedog
“how many would have been justified? one? five? and since when do I have to wait to get shot before I shoot?”
Yes the answer is one. If cooler heads had prevailed everyone would still be here.
71 shots in 7 seconds, yet 1hour and 14 minutes to get an ambulance one scene is not justified.
Gabby Gifford had an ambulance in 12 minutes.
“Sorry, when somebody is pointing a gun at me, and I’m in uniform and have a warrant, I will always shoot first.”
A warrant does not imply or mean guilt. Innocent until proven guilty. As I understand what happened the riffle was on safe and not pointed at the officers in question.
“Just because I took an oath doesn’t mean I have to die giving someone the benefit of the doubt.”
No it doesn’t, but it does means you may. That is part of the oath you decided to take. Your life is no longer yours in that uniform, it is the peoples you serve. Defenders are held to a higher standard. Aggressors have no standards at all. To beat the enemy by becoming the enemy is not a trait of freedom. The choice is yours everyday.
The video you posted was tragic, but it happens all to often in both directions.
This video doesn’t have as much yelling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP0f00_JMak
I guess the only question I have is why did you decide to become a Police officer?
Report Post »Bluedog78
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 2:11pmPrincess, If one shot was justified then you are agreeing with me that he was threatening the police. Police never shoot based on innocence or guilt, you‘re smart enough to know this so I think you’re weaving it into your argument as a straw man tactic. Police use deadly force to stop threats to them and others. Only the court decides guilt of innocence. Using your logic a court would have to declare a person guilty of something before an officer could open fire and defend themselves.
Sorry, my life is my own in this uniform, and I will fight to protect myself at all costs, not societies to take at will. What a twisted view. So what you’re saying is that because “the people” pay my salary then they can kill me. You seem to be in denial that there are real criminals on the streets of America who are at war with cops. You think that all we do is spend our time violating everyday citizens rights instead of fighting crime on the streets.
Report Post »ArmedPrincess
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 4:34pm@ BlueDog
I think you misunderstood where I am coming from. Jose Guerena did not fire a single round, that is fact in this case and why passions are running so high. If he leveled his weapon that is one thing, if he was not sighting in it is another. I have repeatedly said that I do not blame all LEO’s, and that I understand the good out number the bad. However, the sentiment that seems to be running through the thin blue line at the moment, and even from your own typing, is that 90% of Americans want to kill you. I am in no way saying you can’t defend yourself. Yes you have that right, and no no one has the right to kill you. But every citizen has that same right. There is a difference between holding a weapon and threatening with it. That is the hard choices you and your brothers are faced with. I don’t envy it, and I do sympathize. We could go back and forth on both sides of tragedies that should not have occurred. And that is where I am really coming from, both sides are to quick to point the finger at the other, while we are both being played by a system that is out of control. I don’t want to see anyone killed, I don’t want to see one more widow on any side. There is too much of it. We all draw our lines in life. It’s Christmas and it was not my intention to slander any good officers reputation. As I said I don’t want to see one more innocents hurt, I am sure we can agree on that. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Report Post »Micmac
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:47pmWhere are Holder, Jesse, Al? Oh, the guy was white.
NoBama 2012
Report Post »Reboot Washington
kellied
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:59pmMICMAC — Thanks for the laugh! But that is SO-O true. Where is the white’s reps? Got to pay a highroller for that!
Report Post »MEANS2RESIST
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:02pmYou can bet your sweet bippy obama is loving this type behavior by his union thug jail employees.
Report Post »rlimike
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:39pmThe same fate should await the doughnut eating son of a bitches that did this.
Report Post »spasm
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:34pmThank you “The Blaze”!!
Report Post »SistaTriscuit
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:04pmSPASM, since you say it wasn’t cops that did this, then by all means, PLEASE, share the story & a link with us – because considering a female deputy trainee is mentioned above as being on duty when it happened I’d tend to believe that, yes, this was in a detention setting involving police officers.
According to his wife, he WAS arrested for “disorderly intoxication” & she begged them to take him to the hospital – instead, they detained him. A Tampa Bay FOX affiliate is running the story. http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/investigates/photo-shows-pepper-sprayed-prisoner-12142011
So, again, please – tell us what happened, since apparently everyone else’s account is incorrect.
Report Post »spasm
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:16pmBy all means I would be more than happy to share the truth..
http://www.winknews.com/Call-for-Action/2011-07-21/Waiting-for-Justice
Correction Deputies are not COPS they are Correction Deputies….! Cops is a term that is used along with police officer, deputy, trooper, and so on to include any agency that enforces the law to the public. Corrections Deputies are not Law Enforcement Officers. They do not use probable cause and cannot arrest anyone. It is similar to calling a cop a lawyer or a judge a senator. They all have their involvement in the law but they are not the same.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:36pmSo Spasm-
Report Post »I guess we need to differentiate from traffic cops and other cops as well? Detention officers are officers of the law, sworn in the same as any police officer, otherwise they would have no authority over the prisoners. The fact is theses deputies are murdering criminals that should have been arrested two years ago. The death was ruled a homicide but no arrests?
spasm
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 5:04pmhttp://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/homicide
There so you know what Homicide means. It does not mean murder.
Corrections Deputies Cannot enforce the law in the jail, outside of the jail, in your house, inside my house any more than average citizen can. Enforcing the law contains charging and arrest capabilities. They cannot write traffic tickets, give notice to appears, or anything to do with Florida State Statutes outside of their scope of Correctional Institutions. The still cannot enforce the law inside of these institutions. State Statute covers more than just laws. They are not Law Enforcement Officers. Corrections Deputies facilitate the running of Correctional Institutions. They enforce the rules of the facility. Not the Laws…
Report Post »portague
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 5:26pmhoimicide can be murder. Homicide is a broad term even says so under the link so its not inacurate to call murder homicide.
homicide is broader in scope than murder. Murder is a form of criminal homicide; other forms of homicide might not constitute criminal acts.
its one of those definitions similar to, square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not a square type definition. homicide can be murder but murder is not homicide.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 7:23pm@Spasm
Report Post »Cop is another term for Law Enforcement Officer….
You just keep it up. So, let me tell you a little something else The term Cop came from Citizens On Patrol. you keep saying the facts are wrong, the facts are wrong. Sir, your facts are wrong.
macpappy
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 7:26pm@spasm
Report Post »They were not corrections officers working for the dept of corrections. They were sheriffs deputies. You refuse to see the point. It’s like arguing with a libreal.
The-Monk
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 8:49pm@MacPappy
Report Post »With all due respect and I really mean that MacPappy… the term “Cop” originally came from the word copper, referring to a copper penny, which was the lowest denomination of currency and was meant to be a negative term. It was changed/renamed much later to “Citizens on patrol” by Policemen who were tired of the denigrating term. A kind of political correctness.
As for SPASM; He doesn’t realize that Correction Officers have more power inside a jail than Police have outside a jail. They can do whatever they what and do not have to even obey a Judge’s order. I had a friend who went to jail and was on a special medication. The Judge ordered the jail to get the medication to my friend and they refused. They gave him a different drug, which had already been proven by his Doctor to have emotional side effects. He ended up stripped naked and put in a restraining chair and hosed down with cold water. The reason for not giving him his medication that his Lawyer provided directly from the Doctor to the Judge? It wasn‘t in the jail’s pharmacy to be sold to an inmate. Correction Officers are more dangerous than any Policeman and follow few rules. A person on the street has Constitutional rights; a person in jail loses all those rights. Even rape is allowed and sometimes encouraged to keep the more violent prisoners more calm. It’s insane.
macpappy
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 10:54pm@themonk
Report Post »I stand corrected, thank you. I learn something new everyday.
Lamarr01
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 11:35pmThe police have to put up with a lot of crap. Prisoners use the worst like of profanity, spit, urinate, throw feces, throw semen and try to injure the cops who are trying to do their jobs. As demonstrated by the Occupy demonstrations, the police are provoked to violence and then the attorneys sue the county and make a lot of money.
In the coming period of martial law, your life may depend on good police and soldiers who won‘t shoot or incarcerate American’s standing up for their rights. As a community organizer, Obama may provoke the minorities to riot and burn the cities. A financial collapse will bring food and fuel riots. The panic will be used as an excuse for interment in the FEMA camps. Hungary Mexicans will be driven north to the border and dumped off.
If the American police and soldiers can’t keep order, Obama may invite in United Nations Peace Keepers. American’s descent to a third-world Communist dictatorship will be complete.
Report Post »spasm
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 12:10amIt is honestly pointless to try and educate people who refuse to see facts. I have never aligned myself with the defense of any of the people involved. I only have argued for the facts of this story. Fine, I will play my cards. I have been both a corrections deputy and am now a law enforcement deputy. They are not the same thing. They take different certifications and without the certifications in the state of Florida you can not do either. I only hope in my career that people treat me like I treat them and I am not the exception. Most of my fellow workers want to do the best job possible and be as fair as possible while staying as safe as possible so they can go home to their families at the end of their shift.
MACPAPPY you have put yourself so against anything I have to say that you assume I am wrong and must be a liberal. Well your wrong on that one too. Also a trainee was not begging to stop. That is honestly the first time I have ever heard that bit of information in all of this. The sun will rise tomorrow but since you think I am bias and now think I am a jackbootin thug, you will probably doubt that as well. Good luck to you and all who refuse to see the truth..
Report Post »spasm
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 12:19amthank you THE-MONK for your one example of how corrections officers have more power inside the jail that cops on the streets. Been there done that and your wrong and wrong. But I am bias so nevermind me. Also corrections deputies do not work for the department of corrections, they work for the county. The have to follow Florida Jail Model and Standards that go along with Department of Corrections but again, blah blah, I am bias, I kill people cause I can get away with it. Really, I do not know even why I bother………….. I know Release all prisoners and fire all cops. Pick up your weapons and load up on ammo and throw civility out the window. Thank you “The Blaze” and Thank You Glenn Beck. I wonder if he will be held responsible for what is posted in his “Newsletter”? Nope…
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 12:32pm@SPASM
Report Post »It’s not like that, you have put up a good argument, and I am certain you are not a left wing nut. And I did kinda use you as a sounding board. Sorry for that, no offense meant. Your cool with me, I enjoyed it.
Hickory
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:38pmJust because some guys are wearing badges doesn’t mean they are good guys. We have bad people everywhere. A bad cop is the worst. Some just look for an excuse to take someone out. But, there are many good guys wearing badges everywhere also. If they have any morals, they should report the bad ones.
Report Post »certified ethical hacker
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:50pmthis is one thing that has happen to the United States educational system. we now have to accept losers and worthless turd$ in our high positions of trust such as school teachers and security etc. in other words you have idiots teachin idiots some choice another way to look at it is yes there are some bad cops but look at how we support them sorta like sending young kids to the front lines in a war and not expect them come away with some issues. you got jacka$$e$ like obuma turd that jumps on the cops before he checks the facts , the cops are thrust into the front lines against the druggies and thugs and for the most part are not supported by the community
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:59pmRight, but they don’t report the bad ones, do they. Remember Frank Serpico, that was a true story. So, by your premise there are no good cops. I agree.
Report Post »proudinfidel54
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:41pmYou are right, IF there are any good cops on that force, now is the time to step up and be counted, and if any of you are reading this post then you need to realize that it is not about us and them, it is about right and wrong. Ask yourself is this the way you would want your family treated if they were on vacation in a strange town? In God’s name do the right thing here!
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:32pmIf by good you mean men who are willing to dole out unconstitutional traffic fines and murder Marines in their own home, then I guess there are a few good cops out there. The only cop I get along with is my neighbor and if I’m on the road, I don’t want to see him more than any other cop. And keep in mind that I am no criminal. I am not a drug dealer or addict, I pay taxes, spent 5 years in service to this nation in the United States Marine Corps, and I would rather die than to hurt your children. Police no longer abide by our laws and have instead supplemented their own rules, regulations, and ordinances. None of which are enforceable as law but are treated as such in order to line gov’t coffers at all levels with the labor of us mere peasant taxpayers. If they really took their oath and their motto to protect AND serve seriously, then none of them would enforce 99% of the ordinances that they regularly do. And they damn sure wouldn’t sit on the roadside causing road delays, distracted driving, and accidents that take people’s lives on a daily basis.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 8:27pmI agree with Hickory, I usually defend police officers, but if this is true then there is a serious problem with the police. Activity like this is unacceptable and needs to be dealt with. Still, I want more of the story than a picture before I start rushing to judgement on who needs to be thrown out by their badge.
Report Post »mrsalvage2
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:38pmThis is a depiction of the present condition of America.
Someone here thinks that Sheriff’s are our friends? Was it Tenn. which has more Sheriffs indicted for dealing drugs than any other? No wonder VIPR Teams are allowed to operate in Tenn.; can you say Leverage? sure, I knew you could.
The Police are going to get theirs, just like the OKC Department has been threatened with death of them and their children because they know the truth of the Clinton Bombing of the Federal Building.
Time to decide what side you are on. Choose Tyranny, and live under Fear. Choose Liberty, awaken your friends and neighbors to the degree of treason that has hit us, as the NDAA has cracked their eyes, and maybe you can be Free.
Report Post »777patriot
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:53pmWhereas, on the 14th of December, 2011, the House of Representatives of these United States voted in favor of indefinite military detention, without charges, of any American, anywhere, anytime, without due process of law, at the discretion of the government alone;
Report Post »Whereas, on the 15th of December, 2011, the Senate of these United States voted in favor of the same bill;
Whereas, the proscription against the use of military force to police the populous has been an essential feature of American civic life and civic liberty since the arrival of our civilization upon this continent;
Whereas, the wanton violation of this proscription was one of the chief causes of the separation of the American peoples from their government in Great Britain;
Whereas, the Constitution so chartering the government of these United States does not grant this power;
Whereas, the Constitution forbids the addition of any power not enumerated to the general government;
Whereas, the use of such draconian measures has been an essential feature of the enforcement of tyranny by totalitarian governments of the 20th century, including, but not limited to, the Nationalist-Socialist government of Germany, the fascist government of Italy, the government of the United Soviet Socialist Republics, and the government of Vietnam;
777patriot
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:54pmWhereas, the use of such draconian measures is carefully calculated to quash all political dissent amongst a captive people;
Report Post »Whereas, the codification of such draconian measures effectively nullifies all civil liberties the people may hope to hold;
Whereas, the codification of such draconian measures are the last act in the quest to hold a people captive to the rapacious will of their government without recourse;
And whereas, the codification of such draconian measures is an act of war against the populous at large;
Therefore, be it declared that a STATE OF WAR formally exists between the Government of these United States and the People of these United States.
We, the People of these United States, declare any and all attempts to enforce the provisions of HR 1540 to be unlawful, void, and of no force.
We, declare ALL WHO voted in favor of HR 1540, and ALL WHO attempt to enforce HR 1540 to be traitors to these United States, punishable under law.
We, SHALL DISOBEY, APPREHEND, OR RESIST WITH DEADLY FORCE, in our discretion, any person who attempts to enforce the provisions of HR 1540.
We, SHALL NOT aggress against any employee of any American government who shall not attempt to enforce or aid and abet the enforcement of HR 1540, they being as trapped as the rest of the populous.
777patriot
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:54pmSuch STATE OF WAR shall continue until HR 1540 is stricken from the code of law, and all who had hand in HR 1540 are brought to justice under due process of law.
Signed and witnessed by we, the individual citizens of these United States, below:
777Patriot
Report Post »bhelmet
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:06pmGREAT Stuff 777!!!!
Report Post »MEANS2RESIST
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:35pmWell stated MRSALVAGE, our fight with these criminal elements within the upper tiers of government and corrupt police departments is here. Tyranny has been slowly creeping in on us under the guise of islamic terrorists led by CIA-LQADA since the Clinton administration manufactured the OK City event to usher in the terrorist bill. Not only have they fabricated the fact that muslim terrorists are behind every corner, (there’s more chance of getting killed by a shark attack or car crash than a terror attack) they have also brainwashed americans into thinking that citizens that strongly believe in the US Constitution, returning veterans, gun owners etc, are terrorists too, thus conceiving & funding The Patiriot Act, Homeland Security, TSA, militarizing the police & sheriffs departments, building & (beginning to man)FEMA camps. All this in the name of keeping us safe, and in all actuality it to control us.
By passing the NDAA 1887 last week, this shows that here in the near future they are prepping to incarcerate as many US citizens as they can to try and stop us from dissenting this out of control government.
Why aren’t these cops that did this to that guy in prison? Obviously there is a huge coverup by the department & state‘s atty’s office. I pray this guy’s wife wins her lawsuit and ends up getting justice against these cowards that killed this man.
Report Post »Drakkhanlord
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 1:21amA Noble Lie…
Report Post »Search and view , will shake the Foundation of your Soul…
Cavallo
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:38pmJustice denied. A man tortured to death and nothing is done.
Report Post »Gary Fishaholic
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:38pmwtf !
Report Post »Kiba
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:38pmLike I was saying on here yesterday on a simular topic, something is going on with the cops anymore and I no longer trust them as far as I could throw one of them. I think there needs to be some mental-training classes or something because if they cant handle the strains of the job they should find some other carreer. Around here where I live and as I have been reading and hearing the new fad for them is to shoot peoples pets for one stupid cowardly reason or another any place they seem to go. Three or four of them are at someones house for whatever reason and as soon as they see a dog its BANG! BANG! and its the same ol’e cop-talk “I had to protect my pardners yuk yuk yuk”. I have very little respect for them anymore, I used to have all the respect in the world for them but not anymore.
Report Post »Marengo Ohio Patriot
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:36pmfile this under ‘the only good cop is a dead one’ list!
spasm
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:32pmI commend “The Blaze” for this.. Thank you..
Report Post »Marengo Ohio Patriot
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:45pmanytime..spaz-tard
Report Post »spasm
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:58pmI see your ability to form a valid and mature argument has unfortunately made you a fertile man. Please reproduce and further doom our society. I want to get this over sooner than later..
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:01pm@Spasm
Report Post »Commend a bad cop for this, or a wholly corrupt federal government for this, but do not pander your brand of “sheep training” upon us.
If, and I did say IF, there are ANY good cops out there anymore, then why aren’t they protecting the oath they took? Why haven’t they brought forth those who partook in this brutality ? Why hasn’t Holder been charged in the death of Terry Jones? Why weren’t Bush and Channey, Obama and Biden charged with war crimes against our own sons and daughters sending them of on wars of empire, illegal, unconstitutional, amoral wars?
NO SIR, all good cops have already gotten out by retiring, the rest might disagree with things like this articles topic, but they are too cowardly to speak out for what’s right, therefor they will do what’s wrong,
Having said what I’ve said, I hope for GODS sake that some officers of the law do stand forth for righteousness !
spasm
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:34pmOr maybe BETTERDAYS you do not have all the facts and you simply eat what you are fed because it makes you feel happy.
Report Post »apu123
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:35pmSoon to be a commonplace thing with the new detain and execute at will power a bi-partisan congress gave the executive branch. Get on the wrong side of government or fit any of the TSA’s new list of questionable activities, like voting Ron Paul, going to church, having some extra food on hand in case of an emergency and your on the list. But wait it gets better! Also the executive branch can decide to grab you, black bag you and send to to a foreign country for torture and nobody will be notified, you won‘t have a lawyer and you won’t have any legal protections. Welcome to the new USA. Why more people are not concerned about this mystifies me, but I think until Jersey Shore goes off the air and Burrito Supremes are not at Taco Bell nobody will care. At that point it will be too late.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:11pmExactly. When the Congress of the United States votes away our autonomy, there will be protest a plenty in the streets. These protest will be by patriots, but these patroits will think that they can go out an d protest like the OWS crowd, or the pro-choice groups, or even like the gay groups did. To manys surprise it will not be so. They wil be swept up, thrown in detention camps, held there without due process. They will not let you go home to get your gun and fight. You may as well get ready; the NWO is here now, we are on the slope to disavow our republic, and become the North American Aliance or whatevrer they sell us.
Report Post »You might slow it down, but you can’t stop it. I think that was proved lately with the failure of the house stand fast. All pressures were brought to bear against the TEA party members.
Someone tell me I am wrong…..please.
hidden_lion
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:45pm” protest a plenty in the streets.”
Report Post »Protesting in the streets doesn’t do any good, it will just make you easier to round up for camp.
When the straw breaks, protests should be with lead. It will be the only chance you will have to be heard.
macpappy
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 7:49pm@hiddenlion
Report Post »I agree, but do you from what you see believe that hundreds of thousands or millions are going to show up with guns ready to battle. Before that happens i would hope that some of us hard cases would have formed up and be ready for that day. Because, believe me a whole lot of folks will think that a protest will be enough. Your politicians will sell to the masses.
Bluntobj
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:35pmResearch Otto Zehm, a mentally handicapped man in Spokane Washington who died under after being beaten, restrained, and fitted with a spit mask in 2007. Oh, and he was innocent of his suspected crime.
Only now has a jury convicted the officer of violating his civil rights and using unnecessary force. Not murder, not manslaughter.
It will take years and the intervention of the feds to get the cops that did this to trial and an appropriate sentence.
Report Post »Bluntobj
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:39pmCorrection, the jury convicted the officer of lying and attempting to cover up evidence.
Report Post »Kiba
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:47pmAnd when they do hold the cop/criminal responsible for what they did when they go to prison they put them in the country-club yard for fear of their saftey. They dont care about any other prisoners saftey, they are told “Oh those people over there dont like you? Well I guess you shouldnt have gotten yourself put in jail huh pal.” Anymore they are bigger criminals than they are busting, in my opinion.
Report Post »MEANS2RESIST
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:59pmMACPAPPY, when it’s time to protest as you mention, this will be the time to be prepared, locked & loaded. There will be no ‘dry run’…..
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:20pm@MEANS2RESIST
Report Post »Thats right, my point exactly. It will be at that time, or before that your patriotism will be tested. Will you react or eat your peas.
last frontier
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:35pmI can tell some department is angry they don’t have enough money for Tasers, better raise dem Taxes!
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:31pmAnd they wonder why people are becoming less trusting of the police.
Report Post »Kiba
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:41pmThats right, if I saw a cop in trouble anymore I would just turn my head and drive on down the road as opposed to helping-out w/a firearm and my C.W.P. like I would have been more than happy to do a few yrs. ago.
Report Post »SFsuper49er
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:54pmIt’s all down hill from here everyone … Let’s keep watching Friends on TV and keep ignoring whats going on in this country. I will keep my morals and values and you can keep the change !
Report Post »kellied
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:56pmThey killed this man and no one has been charged with the crime. This is our law enforcement… They Work for Us! I know that all policemen aren’t bad but, something like this is unforgiveable. People that drink, get drunk and have forever. They do stupid things, but since when do the police do something like that to an old man or anyone. I bet they got off work, got drunk and beat their wife and kids. Above the law…
Report Post »spasm
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:37pmThank you “The Blaze” Violence to Police Officers should be justified!!
Report Post »Sheepdog69
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 2:11amYet for $50,000 a year you expect them to get spit on, punched and risk their life for you. Nice.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:31pmNo worries, pepperspray is harmless!
Report Post »Clive
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:37pmits funny that we care about torturing islamic extremists, but we don’t even care about our police, torturing our own people. boy, pepper-sprayed to death, now thats a bad way to go.
Report Post »Kiba
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:51pmIts not harmless when a towell is over your mouth and your nostrills are mostly blocked like in the picture, and he was prolly hyper-ventilating from being exited and everything else. And sometimes they use military grade C.S. gas and that aint no pepper spray.
Report Post »R0bespierre
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:52pm“It’s a food product, essentially.”
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ArgumentumAdAbsurdum
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:04pmI know this is nitpicking but Lee County isnt “the Tampa area”. Its over a hundred miles away,
Report Post »Florida_Patriot
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:42pm@argument – no, it’s not nitpicking. Lee County is not the Tampa area at all. When I see a blatant, easily checked fact so wrong, I always wonder what else in the story might be off. Plus, the inflammatory language of:
“”The man’s wife asked that he be taken to the hospital, but Lee County cops allegedly decided instead to “strip Christie naked, tie him to a chair, cover his face, and then pepper spray him repeatedly, until he died.”
I get a little nervous and upon researching, that isn’t entirely how it went down. The whole thing is disgusting, I think the cops went WAAAAY over the line but there is also more to the story than being reported here.
You can see the actual State Attorney’s findings at this link:
Report Post »http://www.news-press.com/assets/pdf/A414957516.PDF
johnbarlycorn
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 11:44pmFloridaPatriot is correct on the location of Lee county. Further, he is paritially correct, the county sherriff’s department was not unionized at the time… only part of the deputies were in fact in a union at the time. further, he fails to relate that the lee county jail has made national news on a series of occiasions for abusing those charged to their care. he also fails to say that the sherriff – mike scott – is a key republican operative in the florida republican party and a pal of govenor bush and govenor scott (no relation). again when indictments are made – this maybe one of the biggest stories of 2012 when all the abuse, corruption, and crime committed on citizens in thier charge is put in the open.
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:31pmPolice are not your friends – they are union thugs and protect the establishment.
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Bum thrower
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:31pmLet it lay, or by gooly, you’re gonna be next……….trust me……..
Report Post »Marengo Ohio Patriot
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:30pmhey TexasFireGuy.. you going to defend these jack booted thugs too???
Report Post »spasm
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:38pmJust defend the truth and you will be fine. But what if the truth was not written here then what?
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:31pm@Spasm
Report Post »Ok guy, I get the part about how Lee county is not Tampa, but does that matter in the context of things, someone did it, someone has to pay. County, city, state, federal, I don’t care which department they worked for. The facts that they did get right was that a man was peppered sprayed to death at a jail, and all deputies, cops, officers or anyfringingthing, were cleared of charges.
that is my beef. Can we at least agree that this is wrong, and someone needs to pay the piper.
spasm
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:46pmLike most things there are still details that are left out. Someone needs to pay yes but what if it was a combined effort of the coordination of everyone who was involved and not just one person who was responsible. I could exhaust myself in the details but I will try and simplify as much as possible. He was arrested twice and off meds. Wife was uncooperative in providing information about his condition and medical history all through the process of finding him arresting him and treating him. Correction Deputies had no information and went to far in their effort to control behavior. Medical staff at the jail did not step in. An individual correction deputy did not step up because they were authorized by chain of command to do these actions. I can never accurately portray the events of that day. A man died. Maybe not one individual but many should be held responsible. Maybe all should be..
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 7:45pmfine I’ll go for all should pay. But here are the facts I know without having to take your obviously bias opinion. I read you links, and still…..a man in the custody of “a” group of “state paid” employees of some state organization, died while in such custody, after being sprayed at least 10 times with pepper spray, while a trainee was begging them to take the spit mask off so he could breath. Who is cuppable? According to the states attorney and “you” no one.
Report Post »iblvingd
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:28pmMore of this will come with the National Defense Bill that was just passed. Allowing any citizen to be detained for no reason……this is ugly evil and will probably get worse if we don’t change the congress of the United States!
Report Post »Marengo Ohio Patriot
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:33pmchange congress my a$$… take up arms and defend yourself from these thugs!!
Report Post »iblvingd
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:02pmReality is we have to get rid of the National Defense Bill. Yes we might need to take up arms, but if we can do it peacefully with a change of the guard we would be better off. Save the ammo for later.
Report Post »Cameraman
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 5:55pmThis I”am sure is MURDER..this man was restrained!!! How could they continue to use pepper spray? Because they COULD,,When are we going to take LEO”S to Task? This should get a Grand Jury to get them all under oath,everyone that has Finger Prints on this CRIME…!!! They all need to see a Court Room and Then Jail…This last Bill NDDA is going to bring this to a town near you!!
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 8:03pmThe more level headed people will still think we can vote our way out of this. This next election will decide that with no uncertain terms. If the conservatives do not win the Oval Office, and both parts of the Congress we are lost. Hell, we are most likely lost even if; as Soros stated, the NWO train has already left the station. A few people see it coming, and are telling you, but they are far and few in between. But, you hear Beck, Wilkow, Levine, Church, Rush, etc.
Report Post »The Euro is going to crash, followed shortly by the dollar since Obama is buying Euros.
When the dollar crashes it will bring all business to a stand still for a few weeks at least. No trucks, no water, no gas, nothing. Justa like after a hurricane or nateral disaster. Thats when you will be at risk and need to be locked and loaded. Then they will spring the case of giving up our autonomy for a more stable economy with the North American Alliance or some such crap. Some, even most will go along, you know if it brings back the normal life, what the heck. Some of us will not go along. Some of us are doomed to fight the unwinable fight against the UN mandated N.A.A. shock troops….Made up of your local police departments, all weaponedized by the best money can buy.
Oh, what the hell, I could be wrong, and we will just go being one big happy family. What do you think?
WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:28pmOh but the cops are good. They care about him. Thats love spray. It makes him feel good and then go to sleep. And im sure tons of you neocons will defend these cops. When will you wake up and realize that our goverment is outta control. Weather its a small local goverment or the Feds. Our goverment has been hijcaked by gobalist off shore bankers. This is not our goverment anymore folks. You think this is ok? You think the NDDA is ok? No its not. Unless you buy into what the main stream media and goverment tells you. Again wake up people. Were in trouble.
Report Post »football lady
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:27pmIs there a rest of the story here? I hope so.
Report Post »mils
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:33pmyeah,…i hope the “rest of the story” is the police that did this are convicted and sent to prison…not a special “cop” prison…a real one…stripped naked and turned out into the general population.
This is HORRiBle!!>>and this man suffered, it is disheartening to know that no one has been brought up on charges!
Report Post »The Tampa police murdered this man.
johnsell
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:47pmYou can’t fixed stupid! No reason to use pepper spray on someone retrained.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86LU_-0XERk
Report Post »spasm
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 3:40pmThere will be no more rest of the story only misinformation that will be spread and excepted by a lot of the readers of “The Blaze”.
Report Post »MarianS
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 9:58pmEveryone is welcome to read the rest of the story on my website : http://www.andjustice4all.org
We have waited 2 years for Justice for Nick, I ask everyone to please call:
Report Post »The State Attorney’s office in Fort Myers – 239-533-1000
Attorney General Pam Bondi’s office – Toll Free: 1-866-966-7226
Sheriff Mike Scott – 239-477- 1000
Turtleman
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:25pmHoly Crap!
Report Post »This could happen to you on vacation?
Good thing he wasn’t a Muslim extremist, that would be torture.
Hickory
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:41pmIf he was a Muslim, they would have paid for his vacation and given him a ****** for the night.
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:24pmHoly Crap! Do ya think?? Do ya think he was tortured??? No sheit sherlock!
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:20pmIf this is true, it is horrible.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:21pmAnd where is the video – I have a blank white space…..
Report Post »last frontier
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:37pmIt’s a blank white screen because they are trying to come up with a valid reason, I mean lie.
Report Post »Drakkhanlord
Posted on December 24, 2011 at 1:25amupdate your web player…may help.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 2:19pmDuck Tape, this is wat the idiots want for a riot on our police
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