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New Poll: Ohio Will Vote to Overturn Collective Bargaining Bill

New Poll: Ohio Will Vote to Overturn Collective Bargaining Bill

Richard Trumka, president of the AFL-CIO, center, talks to student union supporters from Columbia University. Students joined Trumka and local union members going door to door in the area urging a "no" vote on Ohio Issue 2, which would repeal the state's new collective bargaining law, known as Senate Bill 5 (Image: Lisa DeJong, The Plain Dealer)

A new Public Policy Polling survey claims Ohio Democrats and public employee unions are expected to overturn SB-5 and hand Republican Governor John Kasich a crushing defeat.

The poll shows only 36 percent of Ohioans will vote to support the law, while 59 percent oppose the bill and will vote to repeal it. From the poll’s* authors :

Democrats are almost unanimous in their opposition to SB 5, supporting repeal by an 86-10 margin. Meanwhile there’s division in the Republican ranks- 30 percent are planning to vote down their Governor’s signature proposal while only 66 percent are supportive of it. Independents split against it by a 54/39 spread as well.

For those unfamiliar with the bill, Ohio Senate Bill 5 is similar to legislation passed by Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker in that it addresses the collective bargaining rights of public sector employees.

With the passage of the Ohio bill, unions would still exist, but “striking would be illegal and there is a limit on what things can be bargained for,” reports the Ironton Tribune. Furthermore, unions could still negotiate working conditions and hours, but things such as healthcare and sick time off are off the bargaining table.

Here are some of the details of the bill as outlined by The Plain Dealer:

  • Reduces the collective bargaining power of about 360,000 public workers in Ohio. The current collective-bargaining law gives workers the right to negotiate on a broad scope of topics including wages, hours, working conditions and any provision from an expiring contract that an employer wants to change. Under SB 5, workers no longer have the right to bargain changes from a previous contract.
  • Bans public-worker strikes.
  • Eliminates binding arbitration
  • Eliminates “fair-share fees” – required payments to unions from workers who choose not to join their union.
  • Places caps on paid personal days (three), paid holidays (12) and the amount of unused sick and vacation time a worker can cash in upon retirement.
  • Eliminates automatic pay raises based on seniority and establishes a performance-based pay system.
  • Prohibits seniority from being the sole factor considered when workers are laid off.
  • Requires public workers to pay at least 15 percent of their health care costs and to contribute at least 10 percent of their salary toward their pension.

Kasich and the Republican legislature actually managed to pass the law earlier this year but it has yet to be put into effect. Unlike Wisconsin and Michigan, Democrats were able to hold up implementation of the bill by using the state referendum process to put the law directly on the ballot.

“Triggering a repeal referendum required organizers to collect signatures equal to just six percent of the total votes in the last gubernatorial election, with additional requirements that they be sufficiently spread out around the state, with at least three percent of the gubernatorial vote across at least half the counties in the state,” reports TPM DC.

“That meant the threshold was 231,150 signatures — but organizers fired their opening political salvo by collecting four times as many, thus creating a greater base for the actual campaign,” the report added.

What does this mean? According to TPM DC, it means that we are witnessing a “top-tier political battle in this major swing state, and a possible resurgence by the state Democratic Party.”

Watch an anti-SB-5 TV spot produced by the pro-union We Are Ohio:

But let’s take a closer look at the the survey that predicts total defeat for Gov. Kasich. As often repeated on The Blaze, whenever one confronts the results of a survey, even if they reinforce one’s own argument, the following questions must be asked:

  • Who were the respondents?
  • How were individuals selected within chosen households?
  • What was the non-availability of respondents?
  • What was the refusal rate?
  • How did they word the questions?
  • What was the question order?
  • Did they account for lying or false reporting by respondents, or inappropriate or inadequate weighing of data?

A quick look into the full results of the poll might help answer some of these questions.

For instance, consider question #1:

Issue 2 is a referendum on Senate Bill 5, which is a new law relative to government union contracts and other government employment contracts and policies. If the election was today, would you vote yes to approve this law or no to reject this law?

The options provided were: “Would vote yes on Issue 2 to approve Senate Bill 5,“ ”Would vote no on Issue 2 to reject Senate Bill 5,“ and ”Undecided.”

It might be fair to say that this particular question is a good example of an incorrectly or awkwardly worded question that results in a sampling error. Indeed, the question is almost too vague for the respondent to give an informed answer. Exactly what bearing does SB-5 have on employment contract and policies? Because the question is too ambiguous to solicit a fair and informative result, the resulting data may not be indicative of the truth (not to say all Ohioans are unaware of SB-5 but that there could be enough unfamiliarity with the issue so as to skew the results).

Of course, not all of the questions were like that; some that were far from ambiguous. For instance, based on the question “Do you approve or disapprove of Governor John Kasich’s job performance?” the survey data reports that Gov. Kasich has a 57 percent disapproval rate, a mere 33 percent approval rate, and 10 percent are “not sure.”

And here is another interesting part of the survey. Of the respondents who participated in the survey, this is how they identified themselves:

Very liberal ……………………………………………… 7%
Somewhat liberal …………………………………….. 20%
Moderate………………………………………………… 31%
Somewhat conservative……………………………. 25%
Very conservative ……………………………………. 18%

What do you suppose those numbers imply?

A final note: if the survey is indeed accurate, and it is true that a vast majority of Ohioans support overturning the collective bargaining bill, conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh has a message for them:

If this [polling data] is true, then people in Ohio want to rape themselves! They want to pay higher taxes to pay higher salaries to state workers who will earn twice what their private sector counterparts are earning!

That’s what Public Policy Polling is telling us is going on in Ohio.

Read the full survey here.

 

 

*The survey of likely voters was conducted over the weekend, from November 4-6, and has a ±3.1 percent margin of error. The survey was collected from 1,022 likely voters from November 4th to 6th. The survey was conducted through automated telephone interviews.

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  • Mikev5
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:57pm

    They want the cake and eat also how foolish of them to fold and push the bills on down the road as usual lets hide the truth and pretend it’s just not there.

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    • Bill Rowland
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:11pm

      These idiots deserve anything they get. Maybe the businesses will move to Texas, we will welcome them to a right to work state. That leaves Ohio with a bunch of unemployed union ex workers and your overpaid public employees. Have fun.

      OMG

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:15pm

      Thats fine , let the people of Ohio , bankrupt Ohio…. I think it all has to collapse before it gets better anyway ……

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:21pm

      I cannot believe people are being fooled by this…

      Behold! Your Public Sector Unions at Work.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su4PwZCWUdg

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    • pinkyusa
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:51pm

      I live in Ohio and I am voting YES!!! Hoping and praying the bill passes.

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    • Red Meat
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 9:06pm

      I tell my managers never to hire ANYONE that has ever worked as a union member.

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    • Bonesaw
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 9:07pm

      I live in Ohio.
      It has been simply AMAZING at how much union money and man power has been thrown at promoting “No on Issue 2”. The tactic is simple, make it look like everyone is going to vote no, so that the opposition will stay home. The unions lost in Wisconsin, and they REFUSE to loose in Ohio too. They learned from WI. There are no sit-ins. There is not vandalism or destruction of state property. They are spending all their time, money, and man power on marketing and advertising.

      We will know if it worked tomorrow. I am proudly voting to keep it.

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    • Hobbs57
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 9:07pm

      I really can’t understand why public unions are not illegal ? Ok, I get workers rights, however, their unions should not be allowed to participate, campaign, or donate any money to any politicians then. Thise is a major conflict of interest. How is it fair to the tax payer that those who’s massive pensions, benefits, top of the line helath care, and significant salaries campaing and elect the people to office who can give them raises and better their benefits ? How is it these people who don’t produce any profit what so ever, get raises and increases no matter what economic conditions those who are paying their salary’s are faced with ? How is it they have no performance based pay and no real incentive to be efficient and productive with our tax dollars and also have to literally kill somebody before we can fire them ? How about the fact that these unionized government agencies also have a monopoly on all government work and take away from the private sectors ability to compete or have a piece of the pie ?
      Look, Unions are one thing in the private sector, but these government unions need to go.

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    • joe conservative
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 9:17pm

      Just more of the union thuggery in action. The unions are one of the biggest problems facing this country today, yet the Obama administration only cares about getting union employees back on the job. What about the 88% of American workers that don’t belong to a union? They’re on their own with Obama. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss_HvByUxVg

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    • jzs
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 9:21pm

      Neither Kasich nor Walker ran on a platform of busting public unions. They were smart in that way knowing they couldn’t get elected on that basis. But once in office they put the Koch brother’s plan into effect. Bait and switch.

      What did the lead-in say? Those opposed to the measure got four times the number of signatures as needed to force a referendum.

      Ohioans don‘t want this by a two to one margin even if the **** brother’s love it. Ohioans support working men and women. Like them.

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    • ltb
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 9:59pm

      Let those idiots overturn it and then let Ohio go bankrupt. How did America become so full of stupid, ignorant morons who have no business stepping within 100 yards of a voting booth?

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 10:06pm

      I see JZS is full of his self as usual.

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    • ltb
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 10:07pm

      JZS wrote: “Neither Kasich nor Walker ran on a platform of busting public unions. They were smart in that way knowing they couldn’t get elected on that basis. But once in office they put the Koch brother’s plan into effect. Bait and switch.”

      —–

      That’s kind of like how Obama ran on a platform of rooting out corruption and getting spending under control, instead of a platform of turning America into the Soviet Union.

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    • YoungBloodNews
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 10:32pm

      Can someone explain to me how public unions are legal? Dont we the tax payers pay their salary? How is this legal? I get the private sector unions (though i dont like most of them), but public unions seem like fraud to me. You work for us, not some corporation. If you strike its not like at an auto plant, you are directly f’n with society (like when teachers, police, air controllers, etc. strike).

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    • Grey Eagle
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 10:51pm

      It is one thing for Public Safety workers to have collective bargaining, because they are in a very high risk occupation. These individuals may have to retire early because of severe illness or injury. They are exposed to all types of diseases, chemicals, and violence. It is NOT needed for other public sector workers including teachers.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:46am

      I ran into one of the petition people on the streets of our little farm town, they were collecting signatures on the sidewalk in front of the local welfare office. I stood and watched as 3 people refused to sign, ( I was asked to sign and the petitioner was shocked I’d be on that street and support SB5.) I was close enough to hear her spew and caught 5 lies in the few minutes I watched. Afterward I read on AP that Pres. obummer had loaned his campaign staff to collect signatures for the overturn. They’re probably lying about the poll results too.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:52am

      @Hobbs57
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 9:07pm
      I really can’t understand why public unions are not illegal ? Ok, I get workers rights, however, their unions should not be allowed to participate, campaign, or donate any money to any politicians then. Thise is a major conflict of interest. How is it fair to the tax payer that those who’s massive pensions, benefits, top of the line helath care, and significant salaries campaing and elect the people to office who can give them raises and better their benefits ? How is it these people who don’t produce any profit what so ever, get raises and increases no matter what economic conditions those who are paying their salary’s are faced with ? How is it they have no performance based pay and no real incentive to be efficient and productive with our tax dollars and also have to literally kill somebody before we can fire them ? How about the fact that these unionized government agencies also have a monopoly on all government work and take away from the private sectors ability to compete or have a piece of the pie ?
      Look, Unions are one thing in the private sector, but these government unions need to go
      ****
      Public sector unions WERE illegal in OHIO until sometime near the 1970′s, I’m not sure the year, but I believe it was gov jim gilliland who promoted the drive to permit them. THAT‘S WHEN OH BEGAN IT’S DESCENT!!

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:03am

      @jzs
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 9:21pm
      Neither Kasich nor Walker ran on a platform of busting public unions. They were smart in that way knowing they couldn’t get elected on that basis. But once in office they put the Koch brother’s plan into effect. Bait and switch.

      What did the lead-in say? Those opposed to the measure got four times the number of signatures as needed to force a referendum.

      Ohioans don‘t want this by a two to one margin even if the **** brother’s love it. Ohioans support working men and women. Like them.
      ****
      iI supported Gov Kasich in his campaign (politically not financially) AND voted for him too. He promised to BRING JOBS BACK TO OHIO, BY CUTTING THE CLOUT OF THE UNIONS, and the people who voted him in, in a landslide expected JUST WHAT WE GOT! The campaign to overturn IS SO FULL OF LIES, YOU FEEL LIKE SHOUTING AT RADIO, OR WHERE-EVER YOU HEAR THEM! They’ve been telling people voting yes will cut the ability of police and firemen to respond, AND that police won’t be able to get protective vests if they vote yes! Many other such lies, but the gov. and supporters are quietly working to tell the truth. I’ve been on 3 tele-townhalls, that let you enter their poll, It’s winning by a landslide with them!

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    • 100 Million Patriots Standing
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 6:36am

      I am from Ohio and my jon requires a lot of driving cross state. As I listen to the radio and observe the surroundings, I am amazed and saddened by the utter lack of a campaign in support of the law. Simple yard signs are up all over the towns and countryside saying VOTE NO. I see only a very few vote yes signs. The same thing is happening in media ads. and billboards, and bumper stickers. The union’s campaign is massive and thorough. When you go about your day in Ohio it really does seem that everyone has support for the public workers and will vote no to stop the law.

      I hope the poll is wrong but I fear the worst. Where was the statewide campaign to keep the law and present the truth.

      There was none.

      Victory will only go to those who want it most and will do the work to get it.

      A win by the Democratic Socialist today will enbolden them and give them momentum and will translate to a probable Ohio/Obama win in 2012. The unions will simply use the same strategy (lies and threats) and volunteers – yardsigns/billboards/bumperstickers/multi-media blitz and taxpayer money to win the presidency and later the governorship and most other offices. As most of us struggle to reclaim the United Sates Constitutional Republic, Ohio is on the wrong side

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    • starman70
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 7:30am

      Ohioans, do you hear that great sucking sound as businesses and jobs leave your state?

      Go ahead, turn yourselves into another California, New York or let your cities like Cleveland and Cincinnati become mirror images of Detroit.

      Ohio voters, look at Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal and every other country where Union dominated policies have bankrupted the economy. Is this what you really want?

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    • Bum thrower
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 9:40am

      If the people of Ohio are so STUPID as to vote for higher pay and free pensions and health care for goverment workers, then let them pay the crushing tax burden. Business; welcome to Texas. The unions and Dems LIE. it is about union and Democrat power…………vote to screw yourself…

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 11:38am

      Not if I have anything to do with it.

      I just voted YES on Issue 2!!

      I hope it passes to RESIST THE POLICE STATE!!!!

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:01pm

      RED MEAT

      Talk to your attorney. You could be breaking the federal law.

      From a retired HR executive.

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    • OhioRifleman
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:00pm

      Will be voting in ~3 hours, definitely shall vote yes on 2 & 3.

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    • SWING HARD
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:04pm

      I just got my YES vote in today. Those against the bill are in the same boat as the Greeks. They want to tell everyone to pay their fair share except for themselves. And they want to protect those workers with tenure, what a joke. I’ve been in a Union (unwillingly) and had to take care of other workers‘ responsibilities when they didn’t show up on Friday nites. hmmmmm

      The funny thing is, if this gets voted down, then there will be many counties and municipalities that won’t have the money to keep cops, firefighters and teachers on the payroll. So many will lose their jobs because of lack of funds and will be wandering the streets wondering wuhappened.

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  • sb36695
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:54pm

    Goodbye Ohio.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:12pm

      i’m voting yes on it, i didn’t take the poll. ;)

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:13pm

      Ohio is losing job’s faster than any state except California and Michigan. Union‘s have all but destroyed it’s economy. The public sector has been receiving consistent pay raises and exhorbitant benefits packages while the tax base is shrinking. Not a right to work state… I will be moving my business out of Ohio, as soon as I can figure out a way to do it without disrupting families too much.

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    • keats5
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:23pm

      I’m also voting yes and was not polled.

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:40pm

      I‘m voting yes and I don’t even live in Ohio . ( This is a troll like several of the other comments ! )

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 9:08pm

      Most school districts in Ohio have given the day off so that teachers can “get out the vote”. They are claiming that it because of “parent teacher conferences”, my kids were on Friday and today. The unions have really pulled out all of the stops to defeat SB 5 passed by the Ohio legislature and signed by Governor John Kasich. Now a simple majority of voters (mostly Union) will repeal a good law that may have saved Ohio from fiscal ruin. The Unions here in Ohio like most cancers will not be stopped until they have consumed the host.

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    • Joe 1234
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 10:11pm

      I‘m voting yes and I don’t even live there.

      TEA

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 11:53pm

      I am from Ohio and I am voting YES.

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    • honor007
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:02am

      I am from Ohio and will be voting yes~

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  • Mike Benton
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:53pm

    So our State takes three steps forward and now four steps back.

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  • coldarkstare
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:52pm

    what a bunch of tools/fools

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  • 1773patriot
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:51pm

    Ohioans are suicidal if they vote down issue 2. They go and elect a guy to fix their government, and then tie his hands. What idiots.

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  • eramthgin
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:50pm

    If Ohio votes to repeal the law then they deserver everthing that happens to them. Sooner or later even the blind see.

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  • Dahart
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:49pm

    Will I guess Ohio could up being our next Detroit.

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  • RichNGadsden
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:48pm

    It was reported earlier today that these odd year votes usually yield low voter turn out. The unions are expected to come out on top because it is they who have the incentive to vote. I hope Kasich stirs up a hornets’ nest with his constituents. None of our states needs to get further into debt.

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  • enduro
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:47pm

    Unions are spending millions on this vote. The unions went down the mailing list of the AARP in ohio and sent out flyers that state if you vote yes on issue 2 obama wins. These unions are disgusting. I had to explain issue 2 to my grandmother as this was confusing after receiving this flyer.

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  • hemipuma
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:46pm

    Ohio is the 4th largest taxed state in our union, how can we be expected to pay our retirement and YOUR retirement!! Come on Ohioans show some respect and vote YES on issue 2!! And by the way, if this issue passes, look for alot of pink slips, then you former public workers can help shoulder the load with your unemployment checks how does that sound?

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  • Shrugged
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:45pm

    Vote YES on OHIO Issue 2 & 3. I wasn’t at the negotiating table to bargain for my side of their contract. Our politicians were – and they bow down to these same union people for votes. Isn’t that just a little crooked?

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  • showmerancher
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:45pm

    I’m all for defeating the bill. Ohio businesses will move somewhere else (either off-shore when possible or somewhere like Texas) so that the only people paying taxes to pay the state government workers will be the state government workers. Considering the 35% graft, and all the other expenses of state government, they’ll end up having to pay 500% of their salary to support themselves. I love it when people demonstrate to the world how stupid they are. Do it! Fools…

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  • encinom
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:44pm

    Only more evidence that the Tea Party does not speak for the people only the 1% that has funded this astro-turf group from the start. Next year Gov. Walker recalled.

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    • antiencenom
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:08pm

      boo !!

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    • Ohio4Tea
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:16pm

      and next year Obama will put a 40% tax on aspirin because it’s white and works

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    • daveleeander
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:33pm

      I identify with the tea party and I’ll be voting yes tomorrow. And if I can do like Trumpka and his bunch of goons get folk to do, I’ll vote more than once.

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    • joe1234
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:53pm

      “Only more evidence that the Tea Party does not speak for the people only the 1% that has funded this astro-turf group from the start. Next year Gov. Walker recalled.”

      yeah just like the democrats took back the senate, and elected that good liberal supreme court judge….and I’m SO glad the democrats kept the US house in 2010…we sure showed those teabaggers….oh wait….

      tell me are there any liberals who aren’t dumb as dirt?

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    • liberal_equals_liar
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 9:00pm

      Unlike these idiots who claim to speak for the 99% (more like 0.0099%), the Tea Party does not claim to speak for the people. They claim to speak for true conservatives.
      Being the liar you are, I expect you already know that.
      Nice try.

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 9:06pm

      @joe1234

      The Tea PArty, with their Koch money, pulled the wool sover people’s eyes, but the truth wins out and as it was evident in Wisconsin and now in Ohio, the American people have woken up to the lies of the astro-turf groups. Tomorrow is just the another sign of buyers remorse with the tea party.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:10am

      @encinom
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:44pm
      Only more evidence that the Tea Party does not speak for the people only the 1% that has funded this astro-turf group from the start. Next year Gov. Walker recalled
      ****
      Ya’all tried that once, didn’t work before Wisconsin went in the black, SURE WOULDN’T EXPECT IT TO WORK AFTER!

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    • IAMMADDOG
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 7:43am

      @joe1234

      “tell me are there any liberals who aren’t dumb as dirt?”

      NO.

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  • dorightfearnothing
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:43pm

    Trumka looks like a mafia style thug. People in Ohio better get with the program and stop swallowing the union propaganda stew….

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    • unsafe
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:56pm

      Why hasnt some one asked Trunka how much of the ppls money he makes???? Isnt he one of the 1% now..Im sure he has stoled that much..Check it out.

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    • daveleeander
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:37pm

      Trumpka is a thug. He was a thug when he was in the UMWA. He did absolutely no work, only stirred up crap all the time. Strike, strike, strike, that’s all he knew. He’s a no good member of the 1% who doesn’t want anyone to recognize that. He says he for the people, he’s for himself. I’m saddened by the good folks who fall for his lies and do as he says, thinking it will somehow help them with their job, or somehow get someone else a job. What is gets is Mr. Trumka more dues and more money to steal for himself and cronies. He contributes to all the Obummer staff to ensure they will do as he says. What a sad state our country has become from the likes of him and others like him (Think SEIU).

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  • kapnkd
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:43pm

    IF this is true, I sure am glad to not be living in Ohio!!!

    If they repeal it, they deserve the consequences of their actions and should NOT expect any bailouts from the rest of the states! SHAME ON THEM!!!

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 1:38pm

      They also need to recall the Gov. and the GOP controlled legislature.

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  • mcgrawactor1
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:38pm

    Vote yes, vote yes, vote yes, vote yes, vote YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • mcgrawactor1
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:37pm

    I am from Ohio and I love the state. PLEASE tell me this won’t happen!! It will RUIN Ohio. I think that many Ohioans don’t understand what they are voting against. If they REALLY knew what the bill was about they would never vote against it, but the unions have done a superb job of twisting the issue. Holy Cow!!! Lord turn their hearts and minds, overnight!!!

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:44pm

      That is because many Ohioans don’t take the time to be responsible voters. You get the government you deserve. Unions have chased the prosperity out of OH and our bloated public employee rosters are a disgrace. But, it is all self inflicted. You either accept or leave. I’m leaving. Moving to Texas. I‘ve had it with the People’s Republic of Ohio.

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  • PA PATRIOT
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:37pm

    Hey,
    Isn‘t President Obama’s special freind and confidant Richard Turmka?
    Oh, silly me. It is just stupid of me to put those two names in the same sentence.
    Trumka needs to visit the Village Square.
    Respectfully
    SOB

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 8:42pm

      Community Organizer meet Union Boss. Same job. Different groups.

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    • Joe 1234
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 10:22pm

      Community Organizer and Union boss AND (you forgot this one) Turd Head – all the same thing!

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  • anniebsings
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:36pm

    is anyone in Ohio reading about what’s happened in Greece? just sayin’ . . .

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  • Want our country back
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:35pm

    The people that will vote these bills down – earn twice as much as private sector jobs….. and the teachers pay ZERO towards their healthcare…. Wake up Ohio….. give this a chance to turn your state around.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:42pm

      Ohioans get what they deserve. Period. You go though life as a sheep and what do you expect?

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    • antiencenom
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:58pm

      Fiick off roth

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    • liberal_equals_liar
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 9:04pm

      Agree with you, Roth. Want to bet that Ohio will become like Illinois, New York and California?
      How calmly the sheep walk to their own death.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 11:41am

      I will zipline the hell up out of here with the quickness if it does.

      I just don’t want to leave the largest source of fresh water on earth…my Great Lakes…its strategic.

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  • PA PATRIOT
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:33pm

    Yep, There goes the neighborhood. The non tax paying entitlement hoarding union members will now out number the poor tax paying slobs like me.
    Respectfully,
    The SOB and Terrorist

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:33pm

    for some reason , i think the results will prove this poll is a flop

    i have quite a few acquaintances in Ohio, and from what they tell me, the media and the unions and democrats are trying to get the message that everyone is on their side, and that you are the one that is wrong, thus you should vote with them, but the public is actually not in support of the dems and are on kasichs side

    i think the dems and unions are going to lose this one, and many more to come

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:46pm

      Don’t bet on it. It’s not who votes who counts. It’s who counts the votes. I’m sure our SEIU poll workers are great though. /sarcasm off

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  • mikenleeds
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:31pm

    she sounds like a liberal hack to me .. are they anything that slimy liberals want scoop too

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:28pm

    50 states, 50 different policies and plans and agendas, let the people of Ohoi , bankrupt Ohio….

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  • Lesterp
    Posted on November 7, 2011 at 7:27pm

    People are crazy!

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