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New Poll: A Plurality of Democrats Think ‘Big Government’ is More of a Threat Than ‘Big Business’

Since 1965, Gallup has asked Americans what they think is the biggest threat to the U.S. Traditionally, most Americans have answered “big government.” This year is no different.

However, what is notable is that Gallup reports that a plurality of Democrats believe that big government is more threatening than big business. So, even after all the effort that’s been put into attacking business, capitalism, and the free market system in general, it might be a bit unexpected that Democrats still feel more threatened by big government.

Are Democrats acknowledging that the biggest threat to this country is not a merger between AT&T and T-Mobile but, rather, the unholy alliance between the Washington political machine and the career politicians who have made a fine living sucking from the public teat?

Here are the results from Gallup:

Lost That Lovin Feeling: New Poll Shows a Plurality of of Democrats Think Big Government is More of a threat Than Big Business

Source: Gallup

However, it’s just a poll and the results should be taken with a grain of salt.

[Author’s note: Whenever the results of a poll are discussed on The Blaze, this author has been careful to note the inaccuracies inherent in polling data due to question wording and the respondent's answers. One must consider all of the possible sampling errors before presenting poll results as solid, concrete truth.]

But let’s indulge in the poll’s findings anyway, shall we?

“Americans’ concerns about the threat of big government continue to dwarf those about big business and big labor, and by an even larger margin now than in March 2009,” writes Elizabeth Mendes of Gallup. “The 64% of Americans who say big government will be the biggest threat to the country is just one percentage point shy of the record high, while the 26% who say big business is down from the 32% recorded during the recession. Relatively few name big labor as the greatest threat.

“Almost half of Democrats now say big government is the biggest threat to the nation, more than say so about big business, and far more than were concerned about big government in March 2009,” Mendes reports. “The 32% of Democrats concerned about big government at that time — shortly after President Obama took office — was down significantly from a reading in 2006, when George W. Bush was president.”

And here’s the money quote: “Lower percentages of Democrats, Republicans, and independents are now concerned about big business than was the case in 2009.”

Lost That Lovin Feeling: New Poll Shows a Plurality of of Democrats Think Big Government is More of a threat Than Big Business

Source: Gallup

So what does this all mean?

“Americans’ concerns about the threat of big government are near record-high levels,” Mendes concludes.

“The Occupy Wall Street movement, focused on ‘fighting back against the corrosive power of major banks and multinational corporations,’ has drawn much attention and a large following,” Mendes continues, “Still, the majority of Americans do not view big business as the greatest threat to the country when asked to choose among big business, big government, and big labor. In fact, Americans’ concerns about big business have declined significantly since 2009.”

Therefore, if the Gallup data is correct, Occupy Wall Street’s anti-big business message is simply not resonating with majorities in any party.

“Republicans, independents, and now close to half of Democrats are more concerned about the threat of big government than that coming from big business,” Mendes flatly concludes.

Would it be fair to say that even after all of their demonstrations, all of the media attention and all of the coddling from politicians, celebrities, and media figures that the Occupy movement has failed?

Inversely, because a majority of Americans are more worried about big government*, would it be fair to say that the Tea Party, whose sole purpose is to reduce the size of government, has succeeded?

Wouldn’t that be something?

See Gallup’s Survey Methods Here.

(h/t Weasel Zippers)

*According to Gallup.

Comments (173)

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  • cloudsofwar
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:08am

    no way i believe this poll. dems are progressives and love BIG GOV. the democrat party is now a progressive party and a lot of the old dems haven’t waked up to this and most likely never will. they continue to vote dem because they always have.

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    • doomytram
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:39am

      I believe that the real(true and correct sentiment’s) of our countries feeling’s make any poll have a margin of error of about 20%

      The motivated media cooks the books on polls like ACORN does voter corruption(a la Atlanta Teacher cooking the books on testing.).

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    • SEPARATENOW
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:41am

      Grew up in a labor organizer, union, Democrat, uneducated household. They feared everything but big labor. The government was always too big and doing too many things for big business. The PEOPLE were the backbone of the country and unionization was the only way to stop big government and big business. My experience tells me this mindset is back in vogue among the uneducated and Democrats.

      It sucked being a conservative kid in that house…but I digress.

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    • smackdown33
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:43am

      History tells us that the biggest threat to mankind is government… large, all powerful, centralized governments. They have killed and maimed more people than any other entity, including the plague.

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    • AhLeahIris
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:46am

      And yet they keep voting for those who keep us on this road. Which road? You’d know it when you see it: http://wp.me/p1HGwx-1Iy

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    • SEPARATENOW
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:51am

      @Smackdown
      Tens of millions more. If it were a little league game, the pity rule would have been employed about 80 years ago when the Soviets took out about 20 million Ukrainians via starvation. Amazing what utopia looks like in practice, isn’t it?

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 10:16am

      I take issue with the poll; big labor/union is a subset of big government.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 10:26am

      I really do believe that the dems and the independents are starting to get scared.. they are starting to realize what they have gotten us into.. I am starting to believe that a real shocker might happen to this country like all of us uniting together to bring in a Constitutionalist for President…Keep your eye on Ron Paul and a future Rand Paul for President… Remember…the big government Dems and Republicans shake hands and party behind closed doors.. they have kept us at each others throats for decades…it’s time for “We the People” come 2012 A United Tea Party…One United Nation Under God.
      WE ARE COMING

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 10:29am

      smackdown33
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:43am
      History tells us that the biggest threat to mankind is government… large, all powerful, centralized governments. They have killed and maimed more people than any other entity, including the plague.

      This is why the founding fathers tried their best to set up a limited substainable government where the each state had power and the government didn’t. However over the last 100 years progressive have widdled away at states rights and passed unconstitutional measures that was suppose to help but whose true design was to centralize power.
      We still have a chance Ron Paul 2012 maybe the wrong man for other nations(world policing) but certainly the right man for restoring America.

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    • rock-n-roll-rebel
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 10:54am

      Not all democrats are “progressives” or liberals, most democrats still think that it is the party of the working man and have no idea how their party has been hijacked. This is a common misconception and you really shouldn’t be embarrassed about it because if you watch most of the big media organizations you would naturally assume that the “progressive” movement is a very large percentage of our society but in fact they only make up less than 20%.

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    • Lux
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 11:14am

      Yep dems love big government.

      Speaking of big government… anyone know where I can watch the full Dana Carvey’s Killer Obama Impression? He was on Leno Tuesday night and I missed it. They had it up on Fox News but someone hacked the site so the video freezes when you get to the Obama impression. I’ve tried every other website and the clips been pulled by NBC.. go figure. I hear it was the best Obama impression ever… I mean it must be otherwise why all the trouble to keep people from watching it.

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    • THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 11:40am

      @ Rock & Roll
      You are correct, the progressives are truly a mothe congtess and senate onority in the American population…The problem is that they are the majority in all mainstream media and 80% of the congress and senate. Even the majority are infected with the progressive disease, the proof is the bills they pass and their voting record, people are finally waking up to this, thank God!

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    • last frontier
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 11:59am

      You ain’t seen nothin yet, you friggen MORONS you called us a bunch of racist because we listened to what the Marxist said he was going to do and we took him at his word. Where this is going to get good is watching you friggen morons squirm after the election and one by one you friggen morons start waking up from your trance and you realize that there is a republican president, republican Congress, and a republican senate, and they have all the new laws at there disposal that that your MARXIST put in place. And you will be SUBJECT TO.

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    • smackdown33
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 12:09pm

      Republicans had the House, Senate, and White House in 2000… and the government grew at an even bigger rate. A fool does the same thing expecting a different result.
      Republicans and Democrats are the problem.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 2:28pm

      Why do so many people vote Democrat if this many believes big govrenment is a danger to the nation.

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    • JRook
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 3:06pm

      As the wise man says. Polls don’t lie, liars use polls. What exactly does big government mean. Many think that the EPA represents big government and we should abolish it and let corporations kill Lake Erie again and let kids in Toms River NJ die from cancer. Others think it is invasive laws like the Patriot Act and excessive use of the military. That is in instances where the mission was anything but defensive in nature. Still others believe it is when the government interferes with the free market by giving companies tax breaks and incentives they don’t need. And there are those who think it is when the government signs “free” trade agreements that are anything but free, at least in the direction of the US. We have the best politicians money can buy and they are bought by big corporations and the wealthy. If the government is too big, then there is some reason they want it that way. Follow the money, the federal government is an ATM for many industries and companies. Welfare that dwarfs anything given to the unemployed single mom who is trying to get an education. Who do you think really needs or deserves the help.

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    • shakedowncrews
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 3:28pm

      I think you are incorrect. Polls asking citizens to self-identify as Liberal, Moderate or Conservative indicate that true LIBERALS are only about 20% to 25%. Now haveing been a democrat for most of my life and was surrounded by them, I am pretty confident that MOST democrats are concerned about the dangers of government, but for reasons that are different than most of the reasons conservatives (Republicans) fear it. They are very concerned about government violating liberties which is why they despise the Patriot Act and many of the moves to “increase security”, an area many republicans support, and democrats don’t sense that there is too much government in business regulation, and they want government to provide benefits, while republicans tend to despise that. My point is that while there may be different reasons to fear and dislike powerful government that should be able to unite all Americans, if someone could find the right way to present it to bring everyone together.

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    • VRW Conspirator
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 4:59pm

      don’t confuse the Democratic voter with Democratic politician…
      my family are Kennedy era Democrats….well all but my older brother and I and our grandmother… but they all believe in government staying OUT of the way of faith, choices in the home, medicine, employment…they believe in American exceptional-ism, helping through charity not welfare, a strong national defense…
      now we can vary on the evils of big business and big labor…but they feel government is best that governs least…even though they didn’t like Reagan…go figure…
      in fact…my father and mother actually agree MORE with Reagan than they did Clinton or Obama but they voted against Reagan and for Clinton simply because working class people are “supposed” to vote Democrat….i don‘t know if they voted Obama or not but I know my mom didn’t like him… and it wasn’t because he was black…

      don’t lump Democrat blue-collar hard working people in with the policies of their betrayers… most just either haven’t woken up yet or are just starting to…but at the CORE…75-80% of Americans believe more right of Center than left of Center ideas…it is just hard to combat traditional party loyalty and the MSM spin and lies….

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    • TimH
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 6:49pm

      Big government is man’s attempt to fulfill the lie Satan told Adam and Eve. Eat of this fruit of knowledge and you shall become like gods. Nimrod, Pharaoh, Caesar, Napoleon, Adolph, and the current lot of god wana be politicians.

      The solution is the same. The one and only, God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Through His Son Jesus all things are possible. Miracles from Him are ….

      http://www.BornAgainHeathens.com

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    • jzs
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:37pm

      Why do you guys need to Photo shop an image the President to make this big, shiny streak down the side of his face? To make him look bad I guess. Nice try, but the Photo shopping skills are abysmal. Maybe you should hire somebody else to fake your photographs.

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    • FREDD The WILSON
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 7:26am

      OK fime Demoncrats. On the next election, I am not asking you to vote for our Progressive Republican candidate, just stay home and watch the results on TV

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  • BelindaB
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:08am

    Stop being distracted you Dumbass Americans…..GLUE your attention to obama like flies on crap! obama is turning America into a NAZI country…while he distracts you on economy,iraq war, and EVERYTHING ELSE. I am a PATRIOTIC AMERICAN, that keeps MY eyes on the FRAUD that illegally infiltrated OUR WhiteHouse. He is signing a LAW that ANY CITIZEN can be held INDEFINITLY WITHOUT A TRIAL. He GAVE the Drones to iran, they did NOT CRASH. WAKE UP….Get your asses off the Booze, Off the Drugs, and start standing up for Your Country! GET MAD….GET ANGRY….TAKE THIS DISTROYER OF AMERICA OUT OF OUR WHITEHOUSE, AND THROW HIM IN JAIL!!! You are being made to be DISTRACTED by the MEDIA, the NAZI president,The ECONOMY,IMMIGRATION, the Iraq War,SO YOU DON’t EVEN SEE obama is TAKING OUR RIGHTS AWAY ONE BY ONE!!!!!!!! WAKE UP ALL YOU “SUPPOSEDLY SO-CALLED AMERICANS!!!!!! GET obama OUT!!!!

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:06am

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    I was wondering how long Ya’ll could stay bent over holding your ankles…..

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  • TEARS FOR AMERICA
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:02am

    You listen to the dems on t.v. and just have to wonder why they are touting this failed administration…it is incredibly suicidal.

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    • doomytram
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:20am

      You would be better off watching paint dry than watching the Leftist/Wrongist/Ridiculous Idiots on the Idiot Box

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  • hi
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:01am

    I don’t think the idiots understood the question. Ask them if the dems want Obamacare, “free college,” and other entitlements and they will say, “Yes!”

    They don’t know what big government means.

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:36am

      I think you’re right. Most likely “big government” could make people think of things like additional power grabbing, or stripping back freedoms and protection like with the NDAA, rather than simply the services.

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    • TheLeftMadeMeRight
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:42am

      I have a 24 year old girl that works for me, she is very intelligent and personable. We touched on politics one day and she said “socialism would be great; nobody would have to pay for anything”. When I asked her how things would get paid for she had a blank stare. She then commented that she is smart, and has a bachelor’s degree so “she knows things”

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 11:21am

      Sounds like an pompous educated slug… Knows alot of things, but is completely ignorant…

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  • Unbelievable
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:59am

    What people have to remember is big government and big labor go hand-in-hand. So that makes it 72% feel big government/big labor are a threat to America.

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    • wbalzley
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 6:57pm

      Wall Street, Unions, and Government all have one thing in common–they are all Corporations!

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  • olddog
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:53am

    I hope none of you believe this polls. Next i‘ll be hearing democ leftists don’t lie…
    They say one thing and do another. Watch the other hand..Did Newt get his union card yet?

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 3:04pm

      Speaking of Newt, he can’t win against Obama:

      A Dec. 6-7 USA Today/Gallup survey of all voters has Mr. Obama beating Gingrich in a head-to-head matchup, 50 to 44 percent.

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    • wbalzley
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 6:59pm

      @Vechorik: You realize that even the best political poles have a margin of error of 3-5% A five point difference is the equivalent of a dead-heat tie….

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  • NOTAMUSHROOM
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:52am

    Very interesting that Big Labor, commonly referred to as Democrats, still don’t get it. That has to be the most telling disconnect of this particular poll.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:52am

    Considering we are now all but in the grips of a dictatorship of Obama when the defense bill is signed, I feel we are going to be in for a real Christmas Suprise shortly — say one where he declares the end of the Republic for good.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:05am

      The “defense bill” is an atrocity, and I was shocked to hear Lindsey Graham sneering about taking away our rights, downright gloating.

      Do you happen to know when it’s due to go before the President for a signature (or, pray hard, a veto), Snow?

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    • doomytram
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:17am

      Is that kind of like the Reid /Pelosi…. pass the bill christmas suprise a few years ago? I don’t think he is going to cancel the elections until late summer, but you might be right.

      He may go ahead and take over in January. Maxine Watters will be promoted to Vice Czar and she will run healthcare, cars, and banking. Barney Frank will get a statue and so will holder.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:25am

      It isn’t surprising to see all these politicians lining up to eviscerate our constitution,they’ve strayed so far from our founding fathers.We’re very close to losing our republic patriots and only God can save it now.
      Ghostofjefferson, Lindsay Graham and John McCain are progressive career politicians and McCain should have done some time for the savings & loan scandal.

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    • doomytram
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:35am

      I wouldn’t suprised if his Christmas Suprise was to cancel Christmas. The way his Base of Voters(the leftist media delta b’s) has attacked the Holiday this year, you would think we were about to get boots on the ground, attacking our Constitution.

      The President, the failed lame duck, has failed. His Christmas suprise, Popcorn please.

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    • sbleve
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 2:38pm

      Another reason the Executive Orders must not stand longer than 30 days. Omnibus Legislation should never exist. Line Item Vote/Veto up or down must be included anytime a legislative bill is longer than 4 pages of common English, and that includes one dollar of expenditure or one remote possibility of regulatory action, presented to the citizens for look see 90 days for each page.

      The National Party plantation is the governing body. Plantation labor needs wishfully create the citizen works for the Owner. A person that thrives under tyranny has no reason for dissent.

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  • toomuchgovt
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:52am

    First “big labor” is government. Second define “big business” is this crony big business, stimulus, “grant”, “award” money receiving big business or is it just a Big business that made it by failures and wins?

    If you understand “big labor” you should understand that big government and big labor are the same. Give me the name of some truly private companies that have a union. That don’t get government contracts.

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  • SmallGovBigGuns
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:51am

    this shows democraps have no idea what is important. they all sway their opinions like grass in a hurricane. the massive change between 09-11 AND them still wanting Oboner shows how undeniably dumb they are

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  • cemerius
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:44am

    Big Labor = Big Government considering how they have the leash on the current administration!!! Obam’s song to the Unions, “You got a friend in me…..”!!

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  • doomytram
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:43am

    Big Gov‘t is the ultimate problem and big corportations big labor are part of the big gov’t problem. One in the same thing. All Americans, now, must go ahead and nominate Ron Paul the only person who wants to change our BananafriggenRepublic.

    Liberal Leftist – Barrack Hussein Obama is Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Watters. Barrack Hussein Obama is Sheila Jackson Lee Dick Turbin and Shummer.

    Obama is the party of NO Budget, Spend a trillion and half more than we bring in(Revenue) Everyone must move on. org past the Disaster of the 21st and 22nd centuries. BHO is Reid, Pelosi, Andy Stern, Bill Ayers, Jermiah Wright, Wasserman Schultz and the idiot Ed Schultz.

    ANYBODY but Obama dot anybody. dot com.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:42am

    They’re Democrats…they obviously didn’t understand the question.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:47am

      No Gonzo…even the dumba@@es are waking up…

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    • Mandors
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:04am

      Democrats like threats to the country.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 11:43am

      I don’t believe it Baddoggy…I wish I could.

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  • coindexter
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:41am

    notice that the independents poll results are the most consistent…by far

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  • OncealwaysaMarine
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:40am

    To run a successful populist mov’t, you have to

    #1. Have a reasonable cause

    #2. Have an appeal that resonates with the public conscience.

    The TEA Party movement has both of these. This thing has neither of those aspects to it. The Civil Rights movement led by Martin Luther King, Jr. appealed to the conscience of Americans because it was a movement based in the American Dream and the Constitution’s promises. Likewise, the TEA Party.

    What is this #Occupy anarchists’ movement supposed to be appealing to? Exactly the opposite of the American Dream and the Constititution. Look at who’s coming out to this. Speaks volumes. Are these the types of people you’re trying to appeal to?

    The Bolshevik; the Nazi; the union thug; socialist progressives; anti-Semitics; scapegoaters, grafters, reprobates, Communist student groups, murderers of God and worshippers of totalitarianism… No thanks…We’ve seen this movie before….and the ending is always the same: You lose.

    Progressives are being rejected at the ballot box. Seeing the handwriting on the wall for Nov. 2012, like petulant children, they’ve organized a mass temper tantrum. They say, “This is what democracy looks like.” No. Democracy is voting & accepting the outcome like civilized men and women. They are like my 3 year old daughter throwing herself on the floor of the store wailing because I won’t buy her that toy.

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  • JayHamMadRocks
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:35am

    After Obama’s election was powered partially by millions from labor unions, Hoffa says his army is standing behind Obama, and the actions of unions during strikes like Verizon last summer, it’s surprising to me that concern for big labor has fallen. It’s at least an equal threat to capitalism and freedom as big gov.

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  • geo01
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:32am

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    I AM NOT SO SURE OF THIS POLL . . . hard to believe that those left of center truly worry about how big the Government is.
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    SURE WOULD BE NICE IF IT IS TRUE.
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    Perhaps the sun WILL indeed rise on another decade with the U.S. still intact as a free society.
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    LET’S BEGIN BY VOTING OUT THE LONG TERM “Career” people in D.C. and complete the task with A CHANGE IN THE PRESIDENCY IN NOVEMBER 2012.
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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:47am

      Remember though that normal Americans who vote Democratic are not the slavering statist socialists (normally, with some exceptions of course). They’re just people who have a different idea of how to achieve what we may all consider common goals. There are plenty of normal Democratic types I know of who worry very much about big government, they just do it in places conservatives normally don’t care about (and vice versa). For example, most Dems I know in real life were against the Patriot Act (and rightfully so), most of them are against warantless searches, and so on.

      They’re not the enemy, the progressive elite are. But then, that‘s true of either party isn’t it? :)

      Slainte

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    • lel2007
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:54am

      I‘d guess the pollster didn’t mention free government goodies provided by “big government”.

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  • Apple Bite
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:29am

    The defection from the Liberals has begun…. Big Government was never the answer. All it does is restrict your ability to live your life the way you see fit. When we as people allow an eninity like government to tell us how to live, how much we can eat and work, what we can and can not buy nad where, we’ve become nothing more than animals in a pen. We cease to be people with the ability to think independently.

    That’s the goal of the Progressives after all, to prevent independence of society’s will.

    Think about every Federal program that has been developed over the last 50-60 years. All of the so called ‘well meaningful’ ones were perverted (aka, BoE, SAS, Welfare, Federal Reserve…) to suit the need of those in charge. All of the social taxes developed ‘for the people’s well being’ are now shackles in preventing us to live as we wish. In the end, Progressivism is nothing more than Advanced Socialism.

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  • HKS
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:29am

    The government does have the power to solve most of our economic problems with one bill, “Tariffs on imports”. Drive jobs back to where they came from (Here) and everybody goes back to work, tax base goes up, debt goes down, budget balanced.. China has a brick on everything we try to sell to them taking us right out of that game and that’s the rational the government uses not to tariff our ports. This scam is not working, just like the alternative energy scam. Our economy is where it is because the government want’s it that way, our own people stack the deck against us. We are in fact the largest promoter of slavery on the planet. But then, those big investors have more power in Washington than your vote. Clean out Washington and we can change it.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:41am

      Little known secret: The Chinese economy is failing terribly and is only being temporarily propped up through them engaging in pointless short term activity (aka Chinese stimulus), such as building cities that have not one human being living in them, or highways out to the middle of nowhere. It won’t be long before China either collapses, or starts a war to bring its economy back to life.

      Where I’m going with this is that protectionism is not needed and only hurts individuals here in these united States. The free market, when left alone by social engineering, always prevails. Leave it alone.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:51am

      Tarriffs? Really? That’s ypur answer? That one will doom us even more than we are already doomed. The OPPOSITE of tarriffs is a truly free market that is not burdened with a minimum wage, government regulations and bull@hit rules…Like a stupid idiotic tarriff! Wake up fool!

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    • HKS
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:58am

      Since when is buying the fruits of slavery promoting free trade?

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:17am

      @HKS

      Since I am a free individual, who can make my own choices? Are you saying that your morality is better than my own ability to make my own decisions about what to purchase? In fact yes, you are.

      The slave economy of China is failing. Get it yet? The ability of free individuals to make their own choices is prevailing over the failing ideology of communism. We don’t need you making our moral decisions for us, thank you very much.

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    • sbleve
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 2:25pm

      Historically Tariffs create open economic warfare. If the loudest belligerents is able to muscle its way around the trading block, the big guy always wins. If the battlefield is limited in a specific product, ie – solar collectors that has some universal buyer, outside of the biggest belligerents, and that buyer is paying a subsidy to its citizens, the tariff become like used toilet tickets.

      The notion that we as a nation earned our economic freedom via the 20th century technology is mostly hearsay – second person. There were 2 really big wars, these always have drastic side effects, and then the no shot fired Cold War fueled a false image. Remnants of a free market kept the market in a state of ‘in-spite of’ production. Totally Free Markets have not existed in the United States for 100 years. Ear Mark technology has kept any number of domestic markets in business. View it from the bubbles, one after another. Of course the priest of governance have always used the collection plate statistics called pew orientation – left side did this, the right side did that. The Church of Big Government worships the same idol, only from slightly asqued pew number seats. L-23 or R-44. One and the same.

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  • alpha2omega47
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:28am

    Obama is corrupt, a liar, a fraud, a low down phony and is America’s worst enemy.

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    • Darla_K
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:15am

      With this administration, it is no wonder the dems supposedly doesn’t like big government all of a sudden. I am sure alot of them have a horrible taste in their mouths just watching how Obummer has unfolded his show. I hope they see the light in the end and vote this guy out of office along with his cronies. One can hope. :)

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  • PPMStudios
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:27am

    Why is this news? Conservatives (not RINOs) have been saying this for years….

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:52am

      Well that depends though doesn’t it? Most every conservative I met in the year 2002 was just giddy about the Patriot Act. If that’s not big government intervention in places it clearly has no constitutional authority, nothing is.

      No, from my view both parties tend to have selective vision and selective outrage about big government. They loathe government telling them what to do in things they favor, but when they start screeding “there oughta be a law” then government can never be big enough for them. The disease of statism has infected a lot of the personality of this nation I’m afraid.

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    • PPMStudios
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:42am

      @ Ghost

      Just because people play golf, doesn’t make them Golfers….

      As it turns out, a lot of the so-called ‘Conservatives’ I run into, claim ‘conservatism’ because they don’t agree 100% with Republicans. A few pointed questions though, show they don’t even understand the difference between a philosophy and a party….

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 10:21am

      Not one game of golf, right, I agree.

      Let’s go down an impartial list of big unconstitutional government that many nominal “conservatives” support though:

      War on Drugs
      Warrantless searches
      Unconstitutionally undeclared war
      Smoking bans (granted, many Dems are for that too)
      Medicare/Medicaid/Socialist Security (not all, but many support these, especially seniors)

      That’s just off the top of my head.

      Looks to me like it’s more than a game of golf on vacation, rather, more like entering a PGA tournament.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 11:35am

      War on Drugs
      Warrantless searches
      Unconstitutionally undeclared war
      Smoking bans (granted, many Dems are for that too)
      Medicare/Medicaid/Socialist Security (not all, but many support these, especially seniors)

      Not even close
      We support a war on coke,heroin,and meth as these drugs are destructive to more than just the user.
      We don‘t support warrantless anything RINO’S support it.
      We don’t support smoking bans but we do believe that owners of a business should be able to ban smoking or whatever else is their buggaboo.
      We do support medicaid,medicare,and social security so long if it’s well regulated (drug testing and back ground checked)and removed from a general fund account into a private account outside the greedy hands of congress.
      We don’t support any agency that can fine.tax or pass regulations on the citizenry without Congressional approval.
      We don’t support world policing .
      We don’t support the U.N. or any international regulations not passed through our Congress.
      We don’t support congressional benefits packages other then pay for time served.
      We do support term limits.
      We don’t support tenure in any form including idealogical appointed supreme court justices

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 11:51am

      @Smith

      When you say you don’t support something, then rename it and say you support it, that really doesn’t bolster your contention.

      And medicare/medicaid are government socialist institutions, and were actively endorsed and supported by progressives and socialists at their inception. If you support them, and you say you do, then you’re for big government socialism. Throwing in “drug testing” just means you wish to have a warantless search in order to allow others to use a program they’ve probably already put money into already.

      Sorry guy. Examine yourself and your big government beliefs, own them, and learn to change them if you’re so inclined. Denial and excuse making does nothing but perpetuate the problem.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 1:22pm

      ghost,
      Nice try but no cigar.
      I support limited support for those who sacrifice in our society. By removing social programs funds out of the general it deceases not increase gov’t. should a mother who raised her family while the husbands worked be homeless and destitute at 50 because her husband died and she chose to raise her family over work….No. Should a 18 year old pot and crack smoker be entitled to the same …I say no.
      Programs like those should earned over time not just handed out.
      As for drug testing It‘s not warrantless it’s manditory if I want a job I have to pass a drug test ,If I’m hurt on a job I have to pass a drug if I want workman comp. or insurance to cover my injury and time lost. No different here those applying should be tested and denied benefit s and denied retesting if they fail. You know if we start somewhere instead of progressively increase entitlement we cqn progressively decrease them as well.

      And as far as I’m concerned the federal government can give me back every dollar it stole from me and shove it entitlement program up it arse. However the world is larger than me so empathize with some like stay at home mothers. And not so much with other like the gotta make me a new guberment baby check.

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    • LaureenMillarHolt
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 6:33pm

      That’s right.
      It’s that Democrats are seeming to finally be getting the Big Picture–that Big Government is Big Problem for most people.

      It’s about time they woke up & smelled the coffee!

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    • Abysmal
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 11:14pm

      @Smith

      Your concept of “limited” government support is identical to “big government” support.

      You would compel a man to support another because you believe this cause sufficiently good or right or just. Since, I am sure, you would not argue that your lone moral authority should be the basis for welfare (as believing such would clearly classify you as a tyrant), it would be necessary to put such limited support proposals to a popular vote. Alas, this is the system that is already in place (albeit through representative officials), except you have been outvoted!!!

      You would be better served embracing the fact that the 50-yr old widow in your example is unlikely to become homeless or destitute absent government intervention. Life insurance and retirement savings (which now need only provide for one person, instead of two, God-rest-his-soul) would exist to help her recover from this tragedy. Her children could also lend voluntary support, as could other members of her community.

      Is this 50-yr old widow more deserving of assistance than the 18-yr old drug abuser? Such questions are best addressed by free individuals expressing themselves through charitable giving, rather than through compulsory governmental mandates.

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  • brntout
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:24am

    Old dogs,new tricks,leopards changing spots,when pigs fly.This would be welcome news,but the establishment will keep ignoring the will of the people as they do the polls.Action is the only thing that will get their attention I fear.Their ideology has been to dumb down America as to become a nation of cattle to be herded or shepherded into subservience.

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  • jim
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:24am

    Democrats are to blame for Obama and big government. They should stop whining and deal with their “product,” or become Republicans and get this **s out of office.

    Dems being afraid of “big government” is like African-Americans saying they’re upset about the overall 25% unemployment rate among blacks… now it’s over 50% for black youths… well, stop crying, it’s what you voted for. You voted for Obama… your Messiah… and you get what you vote for.

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    • Churchill
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:59am

      We (Republicans) are just as bad unfortunately, well not as bad, but close. Look at the latest primary polls. Gingrich who is the biggest government progressive in the GOP primary race is leading. What does that say about us?

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:03am

      Actually, Dubya is to blame for Obama. It was the independents who were tired of what they saw as an expanding police state and perpetual war that didn’t want to continue it with Dubya II, aka McOld akd McCain. Obama was a glitzy flim flam man who coddled them and cooed to them that he’d solve the issue, and at the time most thought he was sincere.

      Had Dubya not been such a flaming authoritarian and not have been perceived as getting us into conflict after conflict, all the while monitoring us via Patriot, I suspect the results would have been different.

      In the end, one snotty little progressive on the “right” gave us another snotty little progressive from the left.

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    • doomytram
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:52am

      Jim you are not wrong. Thank you. To be a democrat, is to think that Harry Reid an Nancy Pelosi are who we should trust our votes to. Mark Pryor, of Arkansas, deflect. Name your Senator(Insane Democrat, like Reid or your a conservative in sheep’s closing, like I can’t think of a senator like that.

      This Senate is like the mirror image of the failing’s we are feeling. WE need to vote all Right and take in all the baffled, beaten down and divided democrats……

      Democrats are dropping, like, the US Feds take down the mexican drug cartels. For every ton of coke, mary jane, and meth they bust. Democrats are decreasing, but the power at the top is still embeded with them….(corruption is at the top Left and Right are the progressives). It’s glaringly obvious, how week the democrats are.

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  • lgccac
    Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:20am

    Any thinking American would agree that big government is the problem. The bigger the government, the bigger he problem.

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    • Churchill
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:50am

      Exactly, hence why I’m voting for the man proposing the biggest cuts. Ron Paul. 1 trillion dollars cut in the first year, 5 govt. departments (Including the governments socialist indocrination department aka department of education) gone!!!! BOOM!!

      Ron Paul 2012!!

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    • LaureenMillarHolt
      Posted on December 15, 2011 at 6:31pm

      That’s for sure.

      Ron Paul is all about SMALL government–how many politicians these days talk about THAT?!

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    • hud
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:46am

      Laureen— Ronald Reagan, Rep Class of “94, and lots of members of school boards whose names I don’t know advocate smaller government. None of whom have succeeded in my lifetime of 70yrs.

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