New Satellite Data Shows Some Glaciers in Asia Getting Larger
- Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:00pm by
Liz Klimas
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K2 in Karakoram mountains is the second highest peak in the world. The Karakoram mountains are part of the larger Himalayan system but the actual Himalayan range lies to the north.
It’s what scientists are calling a localized oddity but new satellite data of the Karakoram Mountains in Asia has revealed the glaciers in that area have actually been getting bigger, which would be contrary to other data of glaciers worldwide showing retreat.
New Scientist (via Gizmodo) reports that the range, which is remote and the largest in Asia next to the Himalayas, grew 11 centimeters in thickness of water per year, according to data collected from 1999 to 2008 and analyzed by Julie Gardelle of the University of Grenoble in France. New Scientist points out that by “growing” and therefore taking up more water it also prevented about 0.01 millimetres of sea level rise each year during this time.
With this data being counter-intuitive compared to that from other glaciers showing retreat, Gardelle admits the exact reason for the growth is unknown, but states she believes it’s “due to a very specific regional climate.”
The Telegraph points out this research, published in Nature Geoscience, comes at a controversial time regarding climate change in the region, as just last month it was revealed melt in the Himalayans may have been overestimated due to monitoring methods. The method used to evaluate glacier data by Gardelle et al of the Karakoram range used 3D altitude maps. The Guardian reports one scientist not involved with the study calling this method a “ground-breaking” approach:
“On most of the glaciers in the Karakoram it is simply not possible to be there,” [Prof Graham Cogley, of Trent University in Canada] said. “The roads end well short of the glaciers, and it can take days to trek to them. If you reach that point in spite of reluctant soldiers and eager terrorists, it might be physically impossible to get on to the glacier, which will be extremely crevassed and dangerous. Granting agencies do not fork out for helicopter time for this kind of activity. Yet.”
Cogley is also reported as seconding Gardelle’s sentiment that it is a “quirk” in the climate that the fact more snow was being delivered to the mountain, causing it to grow while other glaciers worldwide have retreated.
According to the Daily Mail, this mountain range has rocky debris that can influence the manner in which it melts. It also reports Stephan Harrison, associate professor in quaternary science at the UK’s University of Exeter, as saying some of the glacial growth could be due to avalanches.
The Guardian also reports Prof. Jonathan Bamber with the University of Bristol stating this information should be consider carefully given the short timeframe the glacier system was studied. He said most studies would use a 30-year minimum to draw conclusions.
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Comments (59)
indy1
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 9:37amPoor global warmist cult members can’t catch a break!
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 10:30amShhh! Don’t tell the liberal AGW ding bats! They‘re buying swimming suits and heading for the ’Arctic Circle.”
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 7:55amOh no! The Earth is going to freeze! Gas is so expensive that we can’t even fire up our SUVs to warm it up anymore!
Report Post »Xyskalla
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 3:20pmObviously it‘s man’s fault. All our smog is blocking out the rays of the sun.
Report Post »Ron Staiger
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 7:38amDamned global warming
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 8:30amAll praise Gia, the Earth Mother… and destroy the Human Parasites!
Report Post »ColoradoMaverick
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 5:57amI know what this is:
It’s called normal weather.
Global warming, man made warming, climate change, global cooling. It’s all a sham. It’s all a hoax made by people, no, no made by greedy, self appointed “experts” like Al Bore to line their pockets with your money.
Report Post »Latter-Day-Soldier
Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:20amIn addition to lining their pockets, this environmental garbage is all about a few politicians using this a another weapon to destroy our freedoms and basically make us slaves to the ‘all mighty state’.
Report Post »CATPBJ
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 2:51am@ Christ the Lord – Please take your meds and lie down for a while; if that does not help, please go to your nearest ER.
Many of these comments are hilarious. The Earth is a complex system that is always in flux and its geology, chemistry, geophysics, biology, atmosphere, among other disciplines all come into play at the Earth’s surface. I should know just how complex this system is since I have two advanced degrees in sciences related to just this ‘area’ of the scientific realm. Reading comments from many people here who likely have not studied anything scientific since grammar school and likely received a grade of ‘average’ if not a failure. I don’t mean anything bad about this. I have many friends who are in the police force or firemen, or chefs, etc., and these disciplines just don’t have much need for knowledge in advanced science. Likewise, I would not know much about their disciplines either. If you don’t understand how the Earth could be undergoing natural climate change along with man-made influences in climate change; with the majority of the Earth in a heating mode while certain parts of the Earth are in fact locally in a cooling mode, and most glaciers are receding while some are advancing; and if the Earth’s atmosphere continues to act as a sink for man-produced greenhouse gases then sea-level will rise much more than 0.01mm, and it will be too late to try and mitigate the situation that is man-produced. Obviously, us humans cannot change natural vari
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 4:29am( man-made influences in climate change) aka voodoo science. To be used as a tool remove all freedom by those that would be king. So you know where you can put that termonator
Report Post »The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 9:48amI might agree with you, but watch that elitism you are harboring. People here have a certain amount of cynicism for those who have the title “expert”, and for good reason too, considering how much we have been lied to, put down and have had the validity of our own opinion removed. (know your surroundings)
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 10:32amSo, CatPBJ, if you have so many advanced degrees in this area, then please enlighten us all and tell us exactly how much the sea level would rise if all the glaciers melted. Oh, and please tell us all why we are not using systems to scrub water vapor from the air as it is the most prolific greenhouse gas that this planet has.
Report Post »bigpew
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 10:33amAs the heat of summer comes at it’s end so the Earth is in a season of change. The heating stopped but the effects like the heat of summer linger. This new glacier is just the start of the cooling that is now happening. No science degree just common sense.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 11:13amCharlie Brown’s teacher talking. Look professor, science is about being presented with facts and drawing logical conclusions from those facts. Most of us do that everyday. Repeatability is another factor. Redwood fossils four hundred miles from the North Pole, Death of dinosaurs, death of wooly mammoths, species go extinct nearly every day and have long before man used fire (carbon) as an adjunct to life. Impossible to prove man has ANY influence in this at all. How much green house gas is emitted from a volcanic eruption?
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:05pm@catpbj
Report Post »All those degrees and still can’t find a job, gotta love that hope n change , or more like shuck n jive !!!
pwatkins
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 2:05amI think these growing glaciers are the least of our worries.
Report Post »MammalOne
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:44amI trust climate science research only when it validates my elementary-level understanding of the world.
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:41amDammit ..What about the Volt …..
Report Post »strewth_cobber
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:10am“Greenhouse Effect”.
“Global Warming”.
“Climate Change”.
“Global Weather Chaotic Normalcy (G.W.C.N.)”.
“Climatic Regional Acclimation Phenomenon (C.R.A.P.) “.
I guess calling it the traditional name of “Season” (‘Summer’, ‘Autumn’, ‘Winter’, ‘Spring’) would only further confuse and complicate the issue – and depending which regionally specific hemisphere on earth you are in at the time may add more confusion to some (like migratory birds, perhaps, and jet-setters like Al Gore).
I guess, ‘Season’ doesn’t sound as cool, pardon the pun, as “Climate Change”.
Down here, in the regionally specific zone of Western Australia where it is now “Autumn”, the recent season of summer was…. (reliably)… hot! And very hot, some days – though that is/was, of course, a personal observation and not made from a meteorological academic’s, i.e. politician/businessman’s, perspective!
God Bless from the Great South Land of the Holy Cross! (Australia, that is!) :-)
Report Post »strewth_cobber
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:17amPs… and have a nice day!
Report Post »USAMEDIC3008
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:32amThis global Gore is going to give
Report Post »us all frost bite
SERUM
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 7:29am@ Strewth_cobber
Oh no…you can’t say that, you have to say, ” Have a nice C.R.A.P.!” : ]
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 11:53pmI wanted a banana plantation here in Ohio!
What? The Earth is NOT warming?
Damn
Report Post »db321
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:37amMake up your mind – is it Gobal Warming or Global Cooling – If the Glaciers are getting bigger – what Animal is this phenomenon causing to suffer!
When will you lib’s learn – God is in control and you are not God!
Report Post »Dougral Supports Israel
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:51am@DB321, The new buzzword is “climate change”, that fits whatever is happening. That way if its warm, cold, rainy, dry, windy, calm, or snowy they can claim its all caused by CO2. If we have a lot of hurricanes or if we have none its all different than the year before and is certainly a reason to build hundreds of thousands of ugly, bird-killing windmills. Most of us call it weather, but its an apocalyiptic portent to those who were edumacated at Harvard.
Report Post »db321
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 2:37pmDougral Supports Israel – thanks for clearing that up for me – I was soooooooo confused!
I also support Israel – and will defend even a Liberal Jew with my life! No man could ever make me turn on God!
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 11:23pmJust like Obama’s head…just keeps getting bigger with each passing day.
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:49pmThose aren’t glaciers. Those are the dumping grounds for all of the published papers proclaiming Anthropogenic Global Climate Change is settled science.
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:59pmWow. 10^-5 m/yr of sea level rise prevented. I think I’ll count myself lucky. Whew! Dodged a bullet there.
Report Post »Christ the Lord
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:45pmYou know, it is funny how people, scientists especially, try to understand things that they are not qualified to understand.. Only those of us who are intelligent, Blessed or otherwise Gifted, can ever Understand OUR PLANET. these things that are happening are not going to stop. This is how WE protect our CREATION and YOU ~ US. The Glaciers that are melting, are melting on SCHEDULE. This is Because Underneath these Glaciers are a NEW EARTH FOR US. All things in CREATION have a time clock. This is How things come to be, It is THE WAY PERIOD. To Believe is to RECIEVE. However, as THE CREATORS SON ~ FOR I am here for you and your FAMILIES as well as MY FAMILY, I cdan and will always take CARE of OUR NEEDS. In other words, FEAR NOT, We have ALL PERFECTLY UNDER CONTROL. It is time for all to see with their EYES, WHO I AM. Who YOU ARE, who WE ~ THE ELECT ARE.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 11:55pmChrist the Lord, huh? I see all the capital letters meant, I guess, for emphasis. But I don‘t understand where you’re coming from. So global warming is going to give us a NEW EARTH or, something. Seriously, skip the bizarre, enigmatic, prophetic phraseology and tell us what you are predicting. You know, in words the rest of who aren’t taking LSD can understand.
Report Post »wbaranowski
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:35pmRight, it’s called “Global Weather Chaotic Normalcy”, or, GWCN, for short.
Report Post »SERUM
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:44pmI began to differ, it’s called Climatic Regional Acclimation Phenomenon or C.R.A.P. for short.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:30pmI call that , AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH…..
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 11:25pmI believe Hell is freezing over, or Al Gore is wrong, in which case hell is freezing over.
Report Post »ktmrider1
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:28pmthis is evidence that the left wing waco environmentalist extremist want to control every aspect of our lives while sucking out as much of our money as they can get. its all about money folks. bioligist is a huge booming job discription.
Report Post »nighttrainno9
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:25pmCheck out the ice in the bering straight, heaviest ever.
Report Post »BlenGeck
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:32pmDarn it, I was enjoying global warming. Maybe this new ice age will only last a few years as well.
Report Post »aChameleon
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:25pmI’m gonna take a stab at it. Maybe it’s colder, rainier, and snowier than usual. That will be one million dollars.
Report Post »InfiniteSolutions
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:24pmI still think it’s Global Warming,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,NOT. Why are people so gullable? Oh, I know, because our educational system is so great. This doesn’t mean we can ignore the man made pollution which is destroying our very selves, this includes pesticides, GMO’s, corporate farms, water contamination. what happened to critical thinking or common sense. We have dumbed down our society and are destroying and waddling in it……………………………
Report Post »Catfish
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:23pmIf you want to know the truth about global warmng look in the Bibls at Genesis chapter 8 verse 22
Report Post »I do believe the God and Father knows a little more than Al Gore, Gore he is a democrat is that enough said
MBA
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:17pmOh crap, the earth is going to tip to the east. New nobel prize for a new theory and hollywood b*llsh*t film “An inconvenient Teapot”
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:19pmGood one! LOL
Report Post »ObserverOnTheHill
Posted on April 17, 2012 at 6:36amDon’t let Hank Johnson know – he’s afraid an island may tip over ( Guam ) Because of too many people on the island. Funniest ( and stupidest ) man in Congress.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:09pmThat….that….would mean that weather and climate….are….are…cyclical?! And, maybe even cycle through hundreds to even thousands of years and not just during the life span of most of our trolls here! By golly, what is happening in this world?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:08pmWhat the progressive, socialist, Global warming nuts always get backwards is that we have a Living, Breathing Planet and not a Living, Breathing Constitution.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:10pmI disagree with you almost half of the time, but you are dead on with that comment.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:43pm50% is better than no%… : )
Report Post »hi
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:05pmHahaha! So funny.
Report Post »Zipit
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 10:02pmReally!!!!!
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