Politics

New Video Reveals MoveOn Activist’s Aggressive Provocation

The so-called head-stomping incident outside Monday evening’s Kentucky Senate debate has received an enormous amount of media attention, but questions still remain. The big question: what started the scuffle?

The infamous video footage caught supporters of Rand Paul wrestling a MoveOn.org protestor to the ground. Meanwhile, the liberal activist, Lauren Valle, appeared on MSNBC Tuesday evening and speculated the Paul supporters had “attacked” and “dragged her to the ground” because of her work with MoveOn.

But new video evidence anonymously submitted to RedState captures the moments leading up to the altercation and seemingly shows instigating aggression on the MoveOn activists‘ part as a protest sign was forced into Rand Paul’s face through an open car window as his vehicle approached the debate venue:

RedState reports:

[The video] shows what Valle was doing when the Paul supporters grabbed her. No one chased her around the car. She was never in front of the car. As you can see in the video, Valle reached in the candidate’s window with her “RepubliCorp” sign and shoved it in his face. Several supporters in Paul shirts have her surrounded at that point, and a man in a suit is the first person to actually intervene physically. It’s hard to tell from the video, but it could be that the man in the suit was with Paul’s security staff.

Toward the end of the video, you see several Paul supporters asking a police officer to come intervene. It was Paul supporters who told Profitt to back off. It was Paul supporters who brought the police. Contrary to the growing narrative on the left, this video clearly shows that Valle was not the victim of a conspiracy to “take her out.”

While the video seems to negate the “tea party thug” narrative liberals like MSNBC’s Ed Schultz are claiming, it suggests the Paul supporters’ actions were re-actionary, not blunt unprovoked violence.  Nothing justifies the ensuing behavior which threatened to harm Valle, but Valle‘s innocent victim claim doesn’t seem so innocent anymore.

Comments (279)

  • Shana
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:26pm

    Yes it wasn’t as bad as the left was trying to make it out. I expected to see him stomping on her head over and over. And as others point out in wasn’t even her head. It was her shoulder. But still it was over the line because she had stopped resisting at that point.

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  • troyvar
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:25pm

    The guy was wrong with the extra force, but if he would have taken the president and his spokesman’s advice, he’d be up on even more charges. A boot on the neck of your enemy doesn’t cut it.

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 8:48pm

      If the woman in question had been acting that way around the president, she would have been tackled and violently subdued the first time she attempted to access him, and the Secret Service would have had no compuntions to do whatever was necessary to keep her on the ground which means taser, pepper spray or a separated shoulder.
      The woman got off easy compared to other conservatives who have wound up in the emergency room after being mugged by SEIU goons!
      The guy who shoved her back down to the ground with his foot?? GOOD JOB!

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  • Marine Recon Dad
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:20pm

    Damn… Conservative women are HOT! Wonder what it is…. oh, they have a brain! Go Megan!!

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  • OBAMAWORSHIOER
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:20pm

    I really love Megan. She is beuatiful, smart and fair.

    I also love som many here. Becuase, you show me that you can rationalize taking violence. We can retrian you in our reeducation camps to use your violence on “patriots” We need many brown shirts to keep control once we take over.

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    • scuba13
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:39pm

      I hope you are not teaching the typing class at the reeducation camp. No one will pass .

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    • scuba13
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:51pm

      Will there be an arts and crafts class? I need a new vase.

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    • scuba13
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:59pm

      Will we be going on any field trips? .

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    • OneRepublic4us
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 5:03pm

      OBAMAWORSHIOER will be teaching basket weaving!

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    • dressseller
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 5:09pm

      SCUBA13!!!….LOL. …lol. …..ok.. ..well, sign me up for cooking class. …I need to figure out how to make potato salad without potatoes.

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    • PeachyinGA
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 5:12pm

      WORSHIPFULNESS ~ You know that red squiggly line under some of the words you are typing in the comment box, well if you right-click on the word, spell-check will offer to help you out with your spelling. BTW, red squiggle appeared under OBAMAWORSHIOER, and I right-clicked and chose the first option ~ that’s how you got your new name. Happy to help :)

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 6:40pm

      I married a Georgia Peach. It looks like many Georgia girls are terrific. Thanks for your help. BUT now what will the nitpickers do? Will they now be forced to be thinking people rather than talkers and name callers? Oops, now I will get these idiots to spend days figuring out whether I’m male or a lesbian. (grin)

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    • PeachyinGA
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 6:53pm

      WORSHIPFULNESS ~ Unless that GA Peach was rotten, you are a male. I say correct spelling will give you more credibility to what you are saying, even if you are misguided, bless your heart.

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  • louzyana
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:20pm

    I guess she’s lucky no one bit her finger off…http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-finger-bitten-rally,0,7135717.story

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    • BurntHills
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:37pm

      wow, we forgot about that poor guy. what about the Capitalist black guy -trapped in his wheelchair!!- who got beat up by democrat animals, too!

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  • Bluefish49
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:17pm

    The woman ran up to the car window. They didn’t know if she had a weapon. If there had been a cop near by she may have been shot. I say the guy’s did nothing unjustified.

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  • Okpulot Taha
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:17pm

    This evidences blonds have more fun.

    Okpulot Taha
    Choctaw Nation

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    • scuba13
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:42pm

      You didnt graduate from obamaworshioers typing class did you?

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    • OBAMAWORSHIOER
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 6:36pm

      Scuba, I taught her a great deal once about misdirection techniques after she joined us but I can’t take the credit for her mispelling and typing errors. (grin)

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    • Okpulot Taha
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 7:34pm

      SCUBA 13 asks, “You didnt graduate from obamaworshioers typing class did you?”

      No, but this is clear you and the other boy there are proud graduates of the,

      “Sears, Roebuck & Co. Academy Of Language Arts”

      Okpulot Taha
      Choctaw Nation

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    • scuba13
      Posted on October 28, 2010 at 11:29am

      Okpukalot Teho . You are so funny for a little girl your sears and ro. response was awesome.

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    • Hugh Williams
      Posted on October 28, 2010 at 2:23pm

      scuba13
      Don’t mess with her, YOU WON’T WIN. LOL

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  • JustMel71
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:12pm

    The man who placed his foot on this provoking woman’s neck/head area is still in the wrong. Also, she was clearly wrong for trying to shove her stupid moveon BS sign in Rand Paul’s car. Her playing the victim while provoking the incident should not automatically allow her to go without her being held liable for her own stupid actions. But why do I feel she’ll escape any charges while the foot tapper guy will be made an example of? This story won‘t die down because it’s one of lamestream medias advocates for progressive ideology. Stupid actions on both parties.

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  • mwieczorek43
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:11pm

    As a man, he should never have done that to a woman, especially a downed woman … But lets be honest, it wasn’t a stomp, it wasn’t a kick, and it for damn sure wasn’t on her head. If this was his hand, it wouldn’t be considered a punch, it’d be a push. And she endured no physical harm … you see pictures and videos of her after the incident and she’s smiling ear to ear b/c she knew this would make headlines and she got exactly the reaction she was looking for. Bologna.

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    • OneRepublic4us
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 5:01pm

      To look at her you wouldn’t have know nshe WAS a women and considering the disguise there was no telling if the perp had a gun under the sweatshirt. I think it looks like everything was done to keep the person from harming anyone.

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  • treshall
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:06pm

    Don‘t you just love the way the ’objective’ media at MSNBC showed only the part of the video in which the sign-thruster is taken down to the ground? And the way she told the interviewer that she ‘was just standing there, holding my sign- I didn’t do anything!’ Then, Fox news, in the interest of truth (not sure if the drive-by media is familiar with that term), showed the video portion where the woman steps up to Rand Paul’s car and shoves a 2 ft long sign into his (passenger side) window and into his face.
    THAT’S when she was taken down.

    Of course MSNBC couldn’t wait to show how violent, hate-filled and racists we are. Incidentally, the sign carrier is an extremely ubiquitous and busy liberal activist, one of the MoveOn.org people- Google her- nothing you see will surprise you.

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    • Luckywon
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 6:28pm

      Actually guys, she did NOT get taken down directly after shoving that sign through the window. Watch the video again… the end of the clip, after Rand Paul gets out of the SUV, shows her sprinting around the front of the car and charging at the candidate a second time. That’s where the original video of her being tackled picks up. Check it out.

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  • NHABE64
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:05pm

    I guess she should have just MOVE ON and it wouldn’t have happened. If your going to be a socialist activist you better be ready to get your ass kicked onw and then, especially if your a cockroach socialist. What else to say on this one…

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    • CatB
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 11:38pm

      The libs are always going on about us armed red necks … and then they pull a stunt like this and are upset when they get their shoulder restrained …. Just goes to prove who the real violent people are…. can you imagine what SEIU would have done to someone coming close to a Marxist candidate?

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  • american1st
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:03pm

    i don’t think its assault, someone had there hands on her shoulder to restrain her, and as the hands came off the foot went on, not a smart move (he should have bent over and used his hands) but still not assault i think he can get off with a good lawyer..

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  • Brad Wesselmann
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:01pm

    This does change the circumstances however. Did anyone see Ms. Valle running in front of Mr. Paul’s vehicle trying to gain access to him after he was walking from the vehicle? This was more than a protest, it was a serious security issue for a candidate for US Senate.

    At the time, there was no way for the security detail to know her intentions and she is very lucky she wasn’t taken down with severe force like what would happen if the Secret Service was involved. The gentleman that pushed down on her shoulder with his foot is a strong supporter of Mr. Paul, possibly part of security as well, and it is not out of the realm of human behavior to use force to protect a friend….the adrenaline was definitely flowing, yet the group showed restraint.

    Now that I have more information, perhaps the man protecting the candidate should be commended for taking action and calling for the police….but the kick was still unnecessary.

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    • brianhks
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 7:23pm

      I was going to comment on this too. Just as the camera follows Rand away from the car you can see her running around the front fo the car towards him. Any way you look at it, that is a security threat. The stomp was un called for but taking her down was the correct thing to do.

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    • cajuntiger
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 7:56pm

      I was hoping others saw this as well….she was still trying to get to Mr. Paul, running around the front of the car after being stopped once. The police or security personnel needed to take control of her.

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  • ProudConservative1
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:01pm

    Kentucky’s message to moveon.org:

    Move-Out!

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  • usualsuspect
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 3:59pm

    I was blocked by FB shortly after making this POST Free speech is at risk you can agree with me or disagree with what I have said but please don’t let your brother be bound and gagged Mr President why have you decided to declare me along with many other Americans your enemy. It is not only my right to disagree with you it is my responsibility. I am 53 years old and have served my Country honorably during the Vietnam (conflict) / War I was demonized during that era also by the people you consort with. I still have those scares time has healed them but they are still there. This I will never forget. To be called and considered A enemy by you is divisive, first and foremost A leader should leave room for his adversaries room to save face. You once said we can disagree without being disagreeable. I only wish you believed those words. If your view is that if I lend you all of the support and give you all that you deem necessary to be considered A friend you will have A long wait. I am A proud American sir and my opinion whether you agree or disagree is mine. I am uncertain as to what your want of our Country you are Commander in Chief of A very divided Nation I would hope this way’s heavy on your heart. You Sir can agree or disagree but you have the responsibility to respect and hear the voices of the American People.
    I am the American

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    • treshall
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:10pm

      Rock on, American- we’re right there with you

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    • OK3Wire
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:18pm

      Vietnam was over in ‘75. You barely made the cut …

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    • Hawker
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:25pm

      Again Nam. ended early 70s . your 53 now mmmm You were in the service at 13 or 15 years old?
      does’t add up . anyone who claims military service and has not served is a sick puppy.

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    • Hobbs57
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 5:09pm

      FB Blocked me thee other day when I posted the videos from Bill Still, “Money Matters” , isn’t that weird… they did it to me before as well.. WHat is that all about ??? Who is monitoring that stuff ?? Do you think somebody turns you in for it ?? Has anybody else had this happen ?? How about Yahoo search engine no longer lists the the Blaze when you put it into the search engine. Instead they bring up a bunch of different sites. Then I found out, the Cheif Editor or something like that of the Huffington Post, sits on the Yahoo Board of directors…. hmmmm I am ready to drop my Yahoo account that I had nearly all my life ..

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    • IntheKnowOG
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 5:26pm

      @Hawker

      What’s 53 minus 35? Is it 18? I think it is. You’re an idiot. A 53 year old could have been drafted and served there.

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    • psst
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 8:45pm

      Ususal said “I am uncertain as to what your want of our Country you are Commander in Chief” .
      Um, you may be uncertain, but I’m very certain of what he wants for this country.
      He told Us what he was going to do.. And he’s doing it. He said he was going to change the very fabric of this nation.
      This man is far from being incompetent as some have suggested.
      What many sees as his incompetence, his comrades sees as victories.
      Hussein is a communist.. It’s as simple as that. And it’s Commie In Charge.(CIC)

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    • Timtim
      Posted on October 28, 2010 at 4:06pm

      Excuse me, I’m 53 and the Vietnam war was over by the time I was old enough to enlist.

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  • wisehiney
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 3:59pm

    Dude needs bigger boots.

     
    • BurntHills
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:35pm

      next rally, I’m wearing golfing shoes to.

      BurntHills  
    • where is JG
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 5:30pm

      steel toes, but unfortunately the UNIONS like AFL_CIO pays for their members to have them. I prefer a shoe phone like Maxwell Smart so I can call the cops.

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  • Beckofile
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 3:55pm

    Gollie Gee Wally…Don’t think the lady was here to provoke the situation? The professional left will be out this week in force. Bring your video to the polls and rallies. Catch them at their game and bring it into the light of day. I just wish that guy had not bounced down on his foot. They will even air this as violence and racism even if it is just supporters protecting their candidate and future from the tyranny that we are on the road toward.

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  • catllers
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 3:54pm

    Man that was intense. Chill out ppl dang

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  • Hobbs57
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 3:51pm

    Why don’t any of the New Outlets Publish the fact the she is a CONVICTED FELON for her stunts in the past ?????? PLus the sight called RUPLICORP, gives an outline of how to pull off these “STUNT”, or what do they call them, Bird-Dogs or something… IN this day and age, who knows what a persons intentions are, especially when they got a wig on and provocative.. She deserves what she got. That what she wanted to happen.

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    • FoundersKeeperUSA
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 3:56pm

      n obody ever stomped on Her/His head!! If i was there i would of thiught she was a man at first untill her face was clearly in view.Im thinking they thought she was a guy!! Even still nobody stomped on her head they were just holding her down with there feet.

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  • Veritas
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 3:50pm

    If someone ran up to Obama’s vehicle and stuck their arms through the window, they would be shot by the Secret Service. She could have had a weapon. She’s lucky that all she got was a head stomp!

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    • Proud AF Oathkeeper
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:11pm

      FYI. The Secret Service will not shoot anyone trying to harm the POTUS. They are trained to gang-tackle the perp and detain for questioning. As a last resort, they will take the bullet for the POTUS to catch the perp alive. This is necessary to ensure all parties involved are captured and brought to justice. Well, that is unless they changed policy since the commie is now in office.

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    • IntheKnowOG
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 5:16pm

      I said this in the last comment stream on this “stomp” incident. Robert F. Kennedy (Sirhan Sirhan), Lee Harvey Oswald (Jack Ruby), Archduke Franz Ferdinand (Gavrilo Princip), William McKinley ( Leon Frank Czolgosz) were all assasinated in this very manner. This cute little lib game of agitation will end badly for them. This lib acts like she was innocent, but, thanks to yet ANOTHER citizen journalist, her lie has been exposed. The MSM is officially dead. They are a campaign arm of the DNC.

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    • 123gone
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 5:33pm

      I doubt they knew the condition of Rand Paul when they held her on the ground. It’s possible that they thought they were dealing with an attack on the candidate. Heck, there could have been more than a sign shoved in his face.

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  • RepubliCorp
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 3:49pm

    The Commiecrat got what she had coming……

    RepubliCorp  
  • whybother
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 3:48pm

    oooooooooohhhh….so you mean she practically dove into the window where the candidate was sitting…hmmmm…..typical lying lib….should always expect as much!

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    • CatB
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 11:31pm

      Look like an assault to me .. Valle should be charged … Is it Halloween yet? Libs and their WIGS .. LOL!

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  • Flagwaver
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 3:48pm

    Oops, it seems that the truth has prevailed again!

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 5:25pm

      yup, this sure changes the equation quite a bit.

      SHE was the original aggressor.

      But the mini-baby-curb stomp by Profitt was a little too much but nothing serious.

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    • M31Sailor
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 6:46pm

      If she had a gun and killed him could they put a foot on her head?
      Sailor

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  • smitty805
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 3:47pm

    the wig was creepy. they did the right thing to restrain the weirdo… but they shouldn’t have tried to hurt her. they should have simply restrained her until the police arrived…. what a lunatic…

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:13pm

      Face down, baggy clothes, short cropped hair and acting agressively, I don’t think they knew she was a woman. I would say they thought they were restraining a slightly built man and the “stomper” was holding her down with his foot.

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    • slwolfgram
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:37pm

      I saw a man put his foot on her shoulder and push down. Another man said NO, NO don’t do that. I didn’t see anyone step on her head. She still had the wig on when that happened. She was a bit of a dimwit to go there and do that. Did she think they were just going to let her push that sign in his face and possibly hurt him? Sort of like the Strawman in the wizard of Oz ..singing ” I wish I had a brain.”

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    • magdala
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 5:40pm

      untameable-kate,
      You are right – and the wig coming off would make it seem even more so like a man. Hmmm

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    • 4kidsandacat
      Posted on October 29, 2010 at 11:11am

      Yeah. What in the world is she doing wearing a wig if she was just there to hold a sign? Something doesn’t smell right.

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  • benditlikebeck
    Posted on October 27, 2010 at 3:45pm

    This still doesn’t excuse a stomp to the head.

    benditlikebeck  
    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:01pm

      No it doesn’t but it will make it harder to convict him

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    • kozski
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:01pm

      Are we all watching the same video? There is no stomp to the head! It’s her shoulder and that was far from a stomp.

       
    • john seven eighteen
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:02pm

      No it doesn’t, but you notice she didn’t bother to tell that part of the story when she made her MSNBC debut. That’s why it is so important to get both sides of the story before passing judgment, which MSNBC never does (because it would ruin their story by inserting the truth).

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:03pm

      Why, are only SEIU members allowed to do that?

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    • Gary
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:06pm

      I still haven’t seen a video of him stomping her head…. shoulder yes and that was more of a stern jolt than a stomp. If his intention was to keep her subdued then whatever… if his intention was to be a ***** then shame on him.

      Gary  
    • MAULEMALL
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:06pm

      Oh my god …If it had been me it wiuldnt be talking to the media through any teeth…

      Take ya looser azz on the road mo boy…

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    • YERMOM
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:08pm

      he hardly stomped on her head. cause if he had it would have crushed her skull

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    • Dirty Harry
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:09pm

      It wasn’t a stomp, it was a shove with his foot. Don’t be emotional.

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    • BoilitDown
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:11pm

      Benditlikebeck: You’re right, there’s no excuse. Everyone needs have better self discipline. You can’t prove yourself right with bad behavior.

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    • Marine Recon Dad
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:16pm

      No, it doesn’t. But before you start casting stones, need I remind you about Ken Gladney, and the individual here in SoCal that had his finger bit off? Don’t go all high-and-mighty over an incident that was perpetrated by an over-zealous Paul supporter. Oh, and btw, he was IMMEDIATELY chastised and told to get off of her. But then again, you’d probably dispute that.

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    • MAULEMALL
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:21pm

      It’s very apparent that the left is coming to the realization that they have produced the worst presidents of ALL TIME and they are stuck with the carters and the obamies…

      She should be flattered that she finally got a man to some attention…

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    • Redd
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:23pm

      The terrorist broad assaulted Rand Paul with the sign, poking it in his face. The valle girl should be charged with assault and batty.

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    • GoodGravy
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:31pm

      I can’t stand moveon.org but I don’t like the fact that the guy put his foot on her. Sadly, he makes others look bad when only 3 people looked like they were involved. Wish he would’ve just kept his foot to himself!

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    • Hugh Williams
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:31pm

      This was a complete set up that she instigated, but she was assaulted. Putting your foot on the shoulder or head of a restrained woman and pushing, that is assault. This is what the left wants to happen. They will try to make the right react like this or worse again before Tuesday’s election. People keep you head and don’t give them what they want.

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    • Patriot Z
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:35pm

      true, but keep in mind the left will call us thugs no matter what. they did it long before this happened, they will do it after no matter what anyone or the evidence says. Like i said in previous posts. while i dont believe we should start fights, we do need to be able to react to them and finish them if neccesary. Im not looking to impress the left anymore..or even reason with them. that time is long passed and the ones left dont care either way.

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    • DE OPPRESSO LIBER
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 4:36pm

      That woman should have been shot by the first guy. She clearly looked to be a potentially deadly assassin. That’s the same type tactic a suicide bomber would use to get next to a target. Watch you’re a$$es communist scum.

      DE OPPRESSO LIBER  
    • poverty.sucks
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 5:06pm

      If stomping on head was inappropriate, she should have been tasered. The question IS, tasered on the first encounter or the second encounter. She attempted a physical altercation as SUV approached. Seems as if she was pushed away from vehicle and she circled around to driver side of vehicle, once Mr. Paul walked away from SUV, video shows lady in red running in front of SUV from driver side heading in his direction. If she had any brains, she should have been wearing a blue shirt. When you’re under the influence of MoveOn.org you’re simply stupid.

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    • Wolfram
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 5:22pm

      Her head was clearly not stomped…. Her back/shoulder yes, maybe her neck, but ther were just doing what BHO said to do to BP official

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    • where is JG
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 5:24pm

      bend it and repubicorp are PRIME examples of what is wrong with America. If I did that to the president i would still be in a hole never to be seen again. So your ignorance toward the law is evidence that you seem to have a dual set of laws both legal and moral.

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 5:39pm

      Running up to a public figure like that she is lucky she wasn’t shot dead! She is lucky it wasn’t Florida, Georgia or Texas!

      That said the foot thing was uncalled for. She was already restrained and posed no threat at that point. It was a bad move though I do not blame the guy. What these silly libs need to remember is that while Americans are mostly just and righteous we are also a people who are traditionally trigger happy. If they keep playing these games people are going to start getting killed. :(

       
    • janedough1
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 5:58pm

      Except that if you actually watch the video, he never touched her head. He also didn’t stomp. He put his foot on her shoulder and shoved.

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    • HKS
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 6:03pm

      My understanding of the law, when you commit a crime you are responsible for any and all actions that follow as a result of that action. In other words, if it were not for your crime no others would have followed. To me, I think an aggressive act towards a political candidate was committed by the protester and she is responsible for all actions that followed. A bomb, gun or other weapon could have been present and these people were not trained or in any psychical condition to deal with that. I also think a civil action by the victim of this crime which was the guy holding her down should be launched with a large dollar amount directed at moveon.org and the perpetrator. This is dangerous behavior in dangerous times and these commies need to pay the price for their actions. I’m sure there are some good lawyers in Kentucky. No one wants to be put in this position and this nut has no respect for anyone but herself and her commie moveon.org. They will understand say 100 million in damages.

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    • Luckywon
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 6:08pm

      nobody stomped on a head. He stomped on her back… That doesn’t excuse it in the slightest, The guy should not have done that. In football it would be called unnecessary roughness because it happened after the potential assassin had already been subdued. And yes, I just called her a potential assassin. She attacked Dr. Paul through his window, then attempted to charge him a second time.

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    • BMartin1776
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 6:11pm

      There was no stomp to ‘its’ head, I dont approve of the action but was clearly on ‘its’ shoulder/upper back below the neck line.

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    • janedough1
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 6:36pm

      Lets not forget that the group on the other side of the car, with the Conway signs, are a union group being led with drums and megaphones. Profitt had no way of knowing if they were part of it, or if they would join in. She’d already turned around and run back at Dr. Paul several times, there was no guarantee she would stay down. She’d already shown a huge amount of motivation to keep trying to get at him. It sounds real cut and dried when you weren’t there.

      When I got there and saw the number of Teamsters on the other side of the parking lot, I’d already questioned the wisdom of bringing my child. I’d already told my husband that if something broke out, to take her and run. It was a very tense atmosphere. Its always easy to play Monday morning quarterback with the game tape. You can see the union people against the fender on the other side of the car. How does he know they aren’t going to jump in? How does he know she isn’t going to jump back up and catch him two or three against one? How does he know they won’t distract him while she jumps up and goes after Dr. Paul? Dr. Paul is a little guy. I know. I was shaking his hand when this happened. Do you want him killed or injured while Tim Profitt is dealing with the rest of the crowd there?

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    • CultureWarriors
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 6:42pm

      It wasn‘t a stomp and it wasn’t to the head. She instigated it with a battery. You can’t push an object into a car window and into the face of the passenger. That‘s battery and it’s against the law. Why is she not being charged? They were right to tackle her. The pushing her shoulder down with his foot was un-called for though. But stuff is going to happen in that situation.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ3OxZhXKQ0
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UtmTALMkU4
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6sHCNenl84

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 6:44pm

      How is this a debate? Maybe she was being too aggressive, but she didn‘t stomp on anyone’s head. No sane person would argue that these acts were equal. A guy stomped on her head, and that was bad. That guy in no way represents all Paul supporters, nor does Valle represent all liberals (those who think Valle represents all liberals while disavowing the Paul supporter are hypocrits, and vice versa).

      Case closed right? We can move on? Are we so unable to be objective in an election year that we can’t simply recognize that one individual stomping on the head of another individual is bad, regardless of anyone’s politics? This is what is really threatening the Republic: this bizarre “up is down” partisanship-for-partisanship’s sake mentality from both sides.

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    • DirectlyUnPCman
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 6:50pm

      It seems to me, that after being pushed aside the first time, she ran around the car as Rand was getting out the other side, therefore coming up behind him. Having already redirected this woman, to see her persist like this would make any security guard do a double take. Then, when engaged in a scuffle the second time around, it is revealed that she is wearing a wig. Sorry, if I am a guard, she is now on the ground, and not just a foot on the shoulder. A person who repeatable charges a potential government rep, wearing a disguise, is a real threat. Who knows what she might pull out from under her red coat. You dont get that chance. This is on her.

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    • diesel49
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 6:55pm

      If you think what the guy did was a head stomp you need to get new glasses, he put his foot on her shoulder. I’ve seen the cops do far worse in take-downs when there is an unknown threat. If she han a gun or some other weapon and someone was hurt where would the fault lie, the left would blame security, not the perp.

       
    • HKS
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 6:59pm

      He defiantly should sue in civil court. He will win. The commies have taught me that the best defense is a better offense.

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    • casseopea42
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 7:02pm

      in today’s world…does she have a gun? is she carrying a weapon? I know there is a lot of force behind what he did but if she provoked it and made an seemingly agressive move tward a political figure … well maybe she shouldnt have done that. I guarentee you if that had been Harry Reid or Pelosi in the car she would have been hurt alot worse.

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    • babysealclubber
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 7:11pm

      Frankly, I have no trouble with this womens treatment, she was looking for a “media event”—and she got it. In this day & age, you don‘t know if she’s packing a gun or bomb. It’s a Tea Party trait—–take the initiative, & protect yourself—-the gov, sure won’t in this day & age. The Obamabots are already proclaiming her “victimhood” status. Sorry, I just don’t buy it.

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    • paleoconservatarian
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 7:18pm

      Laud the man who wrested Valle to the ground, not Tim Proffitt. His violent action only provided fuel to the fire, and changed the story from one where a leftist provocateur attacked the candidate into one (wrongly) where an aggressive rightist attacked an innocent lefty. I know many of you are trolls, but Proffitt’s actions showed that at least some of you hold to a wrong headed view. Beck’s point is proved by this incident. The provocateur provoked an over reaction. Violence only played into the hands of the left.

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    • pajamash
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 7:23pm

      Profitt’s reaction is excessive but this new video puts new light on the events and shows she lied about what happened.

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    • 2
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 7:27pm

      If you‘re from the other side you don’t need to get that close.

      GUN, KNIFE, BRICK STAY AWAY!

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    • silentwatcher
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 8:22pm

      While the placement of the foot on her shoulder is not acceptable (legally or morally),,,,,,no one ‘stomped’ on her head. I saw the video, as many, many others did.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 8:31pm

      BabySealClubber: “It’s a Tea Party trait”

      Stepping on someone who is already on the ground? Let’s remember that she was overly aggressive, and I have no problem with people pulling her away from the car, but she did not hurt anyone. She did not have a knife. She did not have a gun. She got stomped on while she was being held on the ground and it was wrong.

      Look folks. None of you can control what that one Rand Paul supporter did, and the Tea Party cannot be blamed for it. However, those of you morons who think you can justify stomping on someone just because she doesn’t share your political beliefs are the reason why the Tea Party get such bad press. It’s why an awful lot of people in this country on the left and the right think the Tea Party is a joke. It’s why all the preaching about “restoring honor” and bringing God back into government seems so fake. Plain and simple, you can’t attempt to justify stomping on someone and then complain about your public image.

       
    • cgbs6183
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 8:33pm

      If you watch the original video you will see this was not a stomp on the head but a step and push on the shoulder. I don’t condone it, it was an over reaction. However tension and adrenaline was high so it was understandable. The original video showed what was like the third or fourth attempt to subdue the women. She smiled the whole time she was on the ground, this was her job she was a paid instigator. The cops were also warned and they said it was not their job (I guess to protect a high profile Senate candidate) The cops were called to help and they did not so I would say frustration factored into it

      If this had happened to Obama or any other president she would not be seeing the light of day for a while and we see law enforcement do this on Cops all the time. Granted he is not a cop but they were not responding and she was aggressive. Remember Regan got shot by some random person charging him. Remember the assassination attempt on Ford. We were not going to assume anything with Rand’s life.

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    • BMWmech
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 8:36pm

      If it was a conservative the left would have done the same if not worse.

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    • webby
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 9:00pm

      WAIT LOOK
      54 seconds into video.
      see her running in front of truck.

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    • HKS
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 9:01pm

      This was defiantly a premeditated crime orchestrated by moveon.org. This woman came prepared to commit a crime and quickly switch identities for a get away. The wig was part of the disguise and probably some removable clothing for a quick identity switch. I did not hear if she was searched for weapons but something was clearly working here. Squeaky Fromme tried that in the 70s so it’s been done before.

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    • heavyduty
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 9:24pm

      If he had went to her and stomped her head, then he is guilty. But she went into the crowd to start a ruckus. This was staged, so it should be thrown out.

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    • RABMAN1
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 9:53pm

      It wasn’t a stomp to the head! Talk about over dramatizing this thing! It was on the shoulder!!! My goodness, these people have NO idea of a no kiddin stomp to the head.

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    • HKS
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 9:58pm

      This has the smell of a plotted attack. There could have been accomplices possibly with weapons. I would think that the FBI should be involved in an investigation if they are not already. It has all the elements necessary, radical group, crowd of people, a leading politician, people in disguises, looks like it could be a duck.

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    • ishka4me
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 10:36pm

      Please, she doesn’t have a mark, bump, scratch, or even a minor injury. Stopm is a little excessive.

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    • FIRED UP FREE MAN !
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 10:42pm

      Here is a TASTE of things we can look forward to, if we allow ourselves to be enslaved by the Communist menace.

      Source: http://www.digitalsurvivors.com/archives/communistbodycount.php

      People’s Republic of China
      Body Count: 73,237,000

      Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
      Body Count: 58,627,000

      Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic
      Body Count: 3,284,000

      Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
      Body Count: 3,163,000

      Cambodia
      Body Count: 2,627,000

      Democratic Republic of Afghanistan
      Body Count: 1,750,000

      Vietnam
      Body Count: 1,670,000

      People’s Democratic Republic of Ethiopia
      Body Count: 1,343,610

      Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
      Body Count: 1,072,000

      Chinese Soviet Republic
      Body Count: 700,000

      People’s Republic of Mozambique
      Body Count: 700,000

      Socialist Republic of Romania
      Body Count: 435,000

      People’s Republic of Bulgaria
      Body Count: 222,000

      People’s Republic of Angola
      Body Count: 125,000

      Mongolian People’s Republic
      Body Count: 100,000

      People’s Socialist Republic of Albania
      Body Count: 100,000

      Republic of Cuba
      Body Count: 73,000

      German Democratic Republic
      Body Count: 70,000

      Socialist Republic of Czechoslovakia
      Body Count: 65,000

      Lao People’s Democratic Republic
      Body Count: 56,000

      Hungarian People’s Republic
      Body Count: 27,000

      People’s Republic of Poland
      Body Count: 22,000

      People’s Democratic Republic of Yemen
      Body Count: 1,000

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    • FIRED UP FREE MAN !
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 10:47pm

      Here is a TASTE of things we can look forward to, if we allow ourselves to be enslaved by the Communist menace.

      Source: http://www.digitalsurvivors.com/archives/communistbodycount.php

      People’s Republic of China
      Body Count: 73,237,000

      Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
      Body Count: 58,627,000

      Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic
      Body Count: 3,284,000

      Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
      Body Count: 3,163,000

      Cambodia
      Body Count: 2,627,000

      Democratic Republic of Afghanistan
      Body Count: 1,750,000

      Vietnam
      Body Count: 1,670,000

      People’s Democratic Republic of Ethiopia
      Body Count: 1,343,610

      Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
      Body Count: 1,072,000

      Chinese Soviet Republic
      Body Count: 700,000

      People’s Republic of Mozambique
      Body Count: 700,000

      Socialist Republic of Romania
      Body Count: 435,000

      People’s Republic of Bulgaria
      Body Count: 222,000

      People’s Republic of Angola
      Body Count: 125,000

      Mongolian People’s Republic
      Body Count: 100,000

      People’s Socialist Republic of Albania
      Body Count: 100,000

      Republic of Cuba
      Body Count: 73,000

      German Democratic Republic
      Body Count: 70,000

      Socialist Republic of Czechoslovakia
      Body Count: 65,000

      Lao People’s Democratic Republic
      Body Count: 56,000

      Hungarian People’s Republic
      Body Count: 27,000

      People’s Republic of Poland
      Body Count: 22,000

      People’s Democratic Republic of Yemen
      Body Count: 1,000

      COMMUNIST Body Count Total is….. 149,469,610 DEAD by their OWN people!

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    • SnapTie
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 10:51pm

      This activist was recently arrested in Louisiana for felony criminal mischief and vandalism. They were protesting for Greenpeace after the BP spill.She’s a paid activist.

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    • FIRED UP FREE MAN !
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 10:52pm

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    • ozz
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 10:55pm

      There was no head stomp he tried to pin her down by the shoulder with his foot. She had no injury so was obviously not excessive force. WOW you ******** are liars.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 11:20pm

      Oddly enough, she wasn’t stomped on the head. Are you going to tell us that it doesn’t excuse a stomp to the ankle next? Have you even SEEN the video?

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    • pamelad
      Posted on October 27, 2010 at 11:52pm

      that was not her head—–her shoulder. She was clearly being “agressive” towards the arriving Mr. Paul. What if this was the President and someone ran up to shove something into the window? It is dangerous behavior—she is lucky she was not hurt. If she is claiming to be—-it is clearly a LIE.

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    • CYCLONE
      Posted on October 28, 2010 at 12:07am

      … this is’nt a left , right thing… BUT, if you run up to a political candidate and assault him or her in a terrorist fashion… then you should be lucky you don’t get a bullet through your skull instead of a suppressing foot on your shoulder… just think of what would happen if you tried doing this to the President of the U.S….. as much as you think he sucks… (*yeh… I know….double face palm *)….

      ———————————————-
      I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause …. I will never forget that I am an American, fighting for freedom, responsible for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. I will trust in my God and in the United States of America.
      Code of Military Conduct.

      Semper Fi

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    • NytMuves
      Posted on October 28, 2010 at 12:37am

      I think the head stomp was the desired reaction from that troglodite. Not saying it was the right thing to do, it obviously wasnt. But I think they were targeted and then goaded into this. Again, the wrong reaction. People need to realize as the left becomes more desperate, they will stoop to anything. We cannot rise to the bait.

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    • mullethead
      Posted on October 28, 2010 at 1:04am

      That was not a stomp nor was it to the head. It was at most a inappropriate boot to the shoulder. That being said the radical libs set them up and got what they wanted and incident they “lame stream” media can twist beyond all recognition! I don’t feel that it was assualt, however thankfully I’m not a lawyer I work for a living.

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    • PlaneRick
      Posted on October 28, 2010 at 1:56am

      Come on, it is clear she never reached inside the vehicle or made an aggressive to think such. Even in this video, you can see both hands present and clear in intent, because they were both on the sign. How it is that because she turned around, among a crowd that could clearly see her actions, it is assaulting or terrorist-like?
      CYCLONE is right that this isn’t a partisan issue, it is an issue of common decency. Just because she stepped forward to present her sign that was against the candidate, doesn’t show a physically malicious intent. Anything beyond that, as presented in this video, is over-reaction.
      It is extremely disheartening how she was treated, especially by those who seem to stand with mottoes like “Don’t Tread On Me”, because she showed an different opinion from the crowd.
      She was obviously stomped on (not her head clearly).
      A man placed her foot on her and needlessly pushed down, it is splitting hairs to define it further. Even though he didn’t “telegraph” his action, that was clearly battery. And as far as I have seen or heard, this is the only “assault” like action presented.
      I find it hilarious, that there was call for the police in the first video, because the only illegal action seems to have been against her.

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    • txbigfoot
      Posted on October 28, 2010 at 6:45am

      look at the video… it was NOT HER HEAD!

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    • ConcernedConservative
      Posted on October 28, 2010 at 7:15am

      It was on the shoulder and she was not hurt in any way.

      Though I am against this type of retribution she brought it on herself by instigating the entire episode. This is typical of liberal morons that try to fan the flames of dissent.

      She should be locked up for the attempted attack on Rand Paul. The individual that stood on her shoulder should be in the cell right next to hers.

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    • marine43
      Posted on October 28, 2010 at 8:37am

      Hey dummy, they never stomped on her head! If this was Obama she would be carrying around some lead now. Geez some of you are clueless!

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    • Ken
      Posted on October 28, 2010 at 10:45am

      But you know the liberals (a/k/a socialists) will twist it to mean whatever they want it to be…obviously anti-conservative.

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    • CultureWarriors
      Posted on October 28, 2010 at 2:05pm

      This was a staged – premeditated act of aggression. There is no rational debate against protecting a candidate (any candidate) from an extremist nut job like her. Anyone that says she was stomped in the head is either a liar or commenting on something they haven’t seen. She should be in jail right now.

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    • Frazzled
      Posted on October 29, 2010 at 1:21am

      Doesn’t look like a stomp to me. It looks like the men were trying to subdue her and keep her down.

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    • *************************
      Posted on October 29, 2010 at 1:43am

      @bend-it – “This still doesn’t excuse a stomp to the head.”

      Fortunately, no one was stomped to the head. I guess you’re just “bending it” to suit your political bent. :D

      “Vhy don’t you admit it? He’s too much of man for you. I know. You’re going to need an army to beat him! You’re finished. Fertig! Verfallen! Verlumpt! Verblunget! Verkackt!” -Lili Von Shtupp, Blazing Saddles

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on October 29, 2010 at 7:37am

      Anybody remember Bobby Kennedy? This woman might have had a gun and been prepared to shoot so the take down was justifiable. Mr Profit’s actions look more like a “stay down” action rather than an assault. If somebody had done this to Sirhan Sirhan Bobby might have been the next president.

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    • Divern808
      Posted on October 29, 2010 at 11:41am

      Did you even bother to watch the video? it was not a stomp, and it was on her freaking shoulder

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    • Atheist
      Posted on October 29, 2010 at 1:29pm

      … Yeah! She put a sign in his face, how could that guy not step on her while she was already on the ground?!

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    • youngwitty
      Posted on November 6, 2010 at 8:06pm

      Wow you are amazing, first off I love the name. I‘m sure you stole it from your 11 o’ clock worship. Next off stop saying head stop that is absolutely ignorant unless your blind and def so no one can explain to you that it wasn’t a head stomp. Finally if security did the same thing this wouldn’t even make headlines get out of here. This story was lame the second the left tried to advance the hatred of the right, BenditlikeBeck I want you to know I don’t hate you, I hate ignorance. I don’t hate liberals, I hate arrogance, and finally I don’t hate the poor, I hate the lazy.

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