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New Video: Seattle Cops Say Occupy Protesters Threw Bricks and Bags of Steel

New Video: Seattle Cops Say Occupy Protesters Threw Bricks and Bags of Steel

The Seattle Police Department released footage Thursday it says shows protesters throwing flares, paint cans and other dangerous items at officers during a protest Monday. (Image source: KCPQ-TV)

The Seattle Police Department on Thursday released video of what it said shows its side of the violent clashes with Occupy protesters earlier this week, capturing protesters hurling bricks, flares and other dangerous items at officers.

New Video: Seattle Cops Say Occupy Protesters Threw Bricks and Bags of Steel

Police say this officer was hit with a bag protesters filled with paint. (Image source: KCPQ-TV)

Police deployed “flash bang” percussion grenades and pepper spray against protesters blocking the entrance to a Port of Seattle facility Monday, The Blaze previously reported. Eleven people were arrested, and some protesters complained about excessive or even brutal force on the part of the police.

But the police department said the tactics came after protesters grew increasingly violent toward officers. In one clip, a projectile that appears to be a brick is thrown toward police, and in another clip, a roadside flare. Additional footage show an officer with what police say is paint on his face from a filled paper bag.

“You don’t bring bricks and paint and things like that to a demonstration with the intent of peacefully protesting or picketing,” Asst. Police Chief Mike Sanford said during a news conference Thursday, according to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

“It‘s been a long time since we’ve seen people throwing things that could kill people, not since WTO,” he said, referring to when the World Trade Organization was in Seattle in 1999. “We’ve seen debris thrown, but…not bricks, not sharpened rebar, not things that would kill somebody.”

Sanford said civilians with the police department filmed the five-minute video. He said sticks and smoke grenades were thrown at police as well, according to the Seattle Times.

Among the protesters to allege they  were beaten by police was the Rev. John Helmiere, who filed a complaint with the department claiming that officers struck him several times in the head outside a port terminal. He was not hospitalized, according to the Times, but described the episode in an online essay:

“An officer pulled me down from behind and threw me to the asphalt. Between my cries of pain and shouts of ‘I’m a man of peace!’ he pressed a knee to my spine and immobilized my arms behind my back, crushing me against the ground.”

New Video: Seattle Cops Say Occupy Protesters Threw Bricks and Bags of Steel

Seattle police officers face a crowd of protesters. (Image source: KCPQ-TV)

But Sanford, who said he was there the night of the protest, said he was “surprised at the level of violence” on the part of the demonstrators and that there’s a “difference between peaceful picketing…and violent, illegal picketing.”

For officers monitoring the situation, “it‘s scary and it’s dangerous” to see objects being thrown at you from the crowd, he said.

In releasing the video, he said the department hopes those involved can be identified.

“Help us identify those people,” he said. “That is not the message that Occupy Seattle wants to get out.”

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  • capt4503
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:38am

    That redhead yelled “The whole world is watching” She is correct, we are watching, watching you being stupid and childish… People will remember!

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    • Jomil48
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:56am

      If Helmiere was a preacher, he wouldn’t be there with that crowd in the first place, what ever you join your self or associate your self with you become.

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    • atechgeek
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 12:18pm

      Best thing to do for the police is stand there and watch. If they break a law .. arrest them. Other than that .. ignore them. The cry babies will get bored and head back to their Dad’s basement.

      Those who can .. do .. those who can’t .. teach .. those who can’t teach … occupy.

      Hire a conservative and fire a liberal !!!

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    • jkjk
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 12:26pm

      Shoot these parasites ! You kill one or two and these maggots will get the picture.

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    • TH30PH1LUS
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 1:03pm

      1. They’re all caucasian in that protest – those redneck racists!
      2. Helmire has gone to the dark side along with Jim Wallace.
      3. The asst. chief could be Gary Busey’s twin brother.

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    • Look for the truth
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 1:29pm

      vote Santorum

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    • kenXIII
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 1:37pm

      to be technical thats where we should send a few preachers, a large group of them to spread the word before the war starts.

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    • kenXIII
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 1:40pm

      but this preacher is a preacher only in title i would guess. looks more like a protest tactic to make them look like they are excepting of religion when they really want it banned.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 2:27pm

      I’ve seen enough to know my mind is made up over these people and their socalled cause for the 99%. Its no wonder our government is making law to detain US citizens. Problem is the good will be locked up with these imbecciles. If the Tea Party tried doing 1/10th of what these knuckleheads has done so far they would all be locked up indefinitely as enemies of the State. This will not get better, it will get worse as the cascade downward continues regarding our economy based on debt and consumerism. When more people wake up to this fact and put the brakes on, then they becomes enemies of the state that must be dealt with because they are now rational thinking human beings who’ve come out of their collective trances. This is dangerous in the eyes of the State. Get ready folks, more to come as War ramps up in mideast and EU collapses within.

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    • ACLUHater
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 3:07pm

      The lowlifes will eventually stop, get wasted, crawl back into their holes, then sleep until November, when they will crawl out of their holes, stagger to the polls, then vote for the Muslim-In-Cheef again.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 3:12pm

      Low tech defeats Nazi Police State high tech.

      Alley Apples for all.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 3:32pm

      Blockading the port is an illegal action, it is not within the 1st amendment rights to infringe on other’s rights. If I were a rich billionaire type, I would hire Blackwater to ensure the security of my cargo. OWS would bleed.

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    • Zpro
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 3:42pm

      My thoughts on The 99 Percent….Watch http://goanimate.com/movie/09ctUSJB8p_U?utm_source=linkshare&uid=0GVVTfOjymE4

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    • turkey13
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:26pm

      Here in Oklahoma our law enforcement warn them then start shooting with plastic bullets. After that its every man for themselves. to many of these citys need a new police chief.

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    • PansyShare
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:42pm

      Y! I’m from Seattle. It is VERY liberal there, but these people are just crazy. The only agenda they have is to destroy. This happened during WTO a few years ago. They have no valid reason for doing this. The police need to do whatever they can to get these jerks to go home (or crawl back into the hole they came out of)..

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    • Jwmajic
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 5:23pm

      When is homeland security going to step in and do something about Obozo’s terrorist organization the O.W.S. protestors?

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    • Unix
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:06pm

      guess what, we’re coming for you communists too!

      Viva TEA

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    • TexasHunter
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:15pm

      UNIX- STAND Strong. Hold Steady. Keep the front UNITED. AMERICA has to wash out the sht to get to the top once again.

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    • Mountain Mama Martha
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:43pm

      It just shows they have absolutely no brains. If they had any, they would know they had no business being there to begin with and go home, get a job, and get a life. They have nothing now. All that shouting and screaming sounds like a bunch of spoiled brats not getting their way. Oh wait! They haven’t yet! They want a free education, a job as a CEO of a big company right off the bat without having to work for it, and all the money that others have worked for handed to them on a silver platter! No wonder the cry baby idiots are protesting!!

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    • coindexter
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 7:24pm

      the protesters are becoming more brazen because the POlice tried to soft-peddle. now they are paying the price for listening to their POlice union organizers with serious violence directed at them. god help the POlice.

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    • Formula382
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 8:52pm

      They’re spent, running out of steam…I’m loving the fact that again, they’ll never accomplish and/or amount to anything. Just like Obama’s quest to redistribute the wealth, backfired in spades…So is this backfiring on the OWS crowd.

      To the Hippie Freaks, welcome to my land where you have the right to “The Persuit of Happiness”, just not a guarantee! This is our nation, a nation of people that work hard and take care of their families and communities. If you don’t like it, move to the UK, move to France, move to Spain, move to an island far, far, away. And tread carefully as people like me are beyond tired of your filth, we’re ready to bring the battle to you. If it gets to that, you’ll wish you had heeded my earlier advice to get out while you can. When the working man strikes, he will burn you down like an insect under a magnifying glass!

      OWS crowd, you’ve been warned!

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    • goshawk999
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 9:07pm

      The least they could do is get a new phrase. “The whole world is watching”. Hey lady (sounded like a woman) get a new effin phrase. That one is about 43, almost 44 years old.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 9:37pm

      @Jwmajic
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 5:23pm
      When is homeland security going to step in and do something about Obozo’s terrorist organization the O.W.S. protestors?
      ****
      THEY CAN’T! They’re TOOoooooooo BUSY SHUTTING SHERRIF JOE, & HIS DEPARTMENT DOWN FROM ENFORCING THE LAWS! Besides, these are probably the only groups bIG sIS DOESN’T HAVE DESIGNATED AS TERRORISTS!!!

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 9:45pm

      @MOUNTAIN MAMA MARTHA
      Only could find 2 things you were a little off on. 1 They have jobs, they‘re being paid by one of soros’ groups to do this. 2They’re being paid to destroy things, that does away with their reason to protest. THEY’RE LIVING THEIR DREAMS, WONDER WHAT THEY’LL HAVE TO SAY WHEN THEY WAKE UP & DISCOVER THEY WERE JUST USEFUL IDIOTS?

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    • blue state prisoner
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:10pm

      Here in Chicago our occupiers are still non-violent. I’m happy for that, but there message is still unclear. They say they are fighting for us yet no one knows what they want. You see it time and again some half-baked pot head telling stories about how they want their college paid for and a job making coffee and 100k/yr. What these people need is a swift kick in the ass from the police because their parents never did. Get off your parents’ couch, take a shower and get a job. I don’t care what you do but being a leech on society is not the answer. No matter how much you hippies think government should help you stay unemployed, high, and useless….socialism is not the answer! And just so you know, YOU R NOT the 99%, I am. I work, I pay taxes, I support you and your minions. Put down the blunt and open your eyes. If this were a socialist state you would not be tolerated. And lets not forget why you are allowed to speak and occupy…….

      GOD BLESSED AMERICA!

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  • SmallGovBigGuns
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:36am

    so frustrating watching how the government is handling these morons

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    • johnsnare
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:59pm

      Isn’t freedom of speech great.? They hide behind the constitution, which they and their Commander in chief despise, and he is looking for another four more years. Bigger balls than a herd of Elephants.

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    • annelouisegelinas
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:13pm

      And soon the government will tell the rest of us we owe more money in taxes to pay for all this destruction of property. Humm maybe we can have the states government call FEMA. It is a national disaster, isn’t it?

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 9:55pm

      @annelouisegelinas
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:13pm
      And soon the government will tell the rest of us we owe more money in taxes to pay for all this destruction of property. Humm maybe we can have the states government call FEMA. It is a national disaster, isn’t it?
      ****
      Probably already slipped into one of the Huge bills congress just passed without anyone having time to read them. Hoyer flat out told people on record, “You haven’t read it, NOBODY’S READ THIS BILL” but they had to pass a mess of them so they can go home & see if Santa has Christmas money for them! Wait till they wake up & discover soros, isn’t REALLY Santa Clause!
      May the Christ of Christmas, have mercy on us, & deliver us from wicked politicians, & BLESS THE 87 republican congressmen WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR IT!

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  • chingachgook
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:33am

    Rocks are weapons, They are the world’s first weapons. basically they are the precursors to a bullets.
    Catch a nice size rock in the head and tell me what you think.
    It may be a primitive weapon but it is still a weapon. Those who throw them want to do so and then condemn any one using any weapons to respond. They think that they can throw them with impunity as seen in the Middle East and such places. Where does it say that you attack me I can not respond with more force that you use on me.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 12:31pm

      Stones used by peoples of the pacific Islands in fights between 6th century sailors were smooth & generally egg shaped. I am just mentioned this because hand thrown stones have been used as weapons in the past & have killed with 1 hit. A baseball play can throw a baseball a from 70 to 100 mph. Per wiki, a baseball on release has about 280 pounds of force. The pint is that a thrown brick, chunk of concrete or cobble stone is a lethal weapon. Anyone caught (on camera) throwing one should be prosecuted with attempted murder.

      Kinetic Energy of 9 mm bullet is 567 Joules
      Kinetic Energy of a 6 kg brick thrown at 30 mph is 540 Joules

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9×19mm_Parabellum
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_pitcher#Pitching_biomechanics
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mactan (Stones used as missile weapons to great effect.)

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 12:36pm

      I am still trying to find the story where an University Of Illinois student suffered brain damage from a bottle thrown into a crowd during a “riot” on Green Street during the early to mid 80s.

      I don’t recall if the bottle was empty or full. Any empty bottle injuring a person so grievously really cause one to think how much worse getting hit by a brick would be.

      Anyone know of this story? Newspaper people really don’t follow stories of rioters being injured by other people associated with the riot who are not police officers.

      Is it bias perhaps?

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    • SoupSandwich
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 12:55pm

      Exactly. Non lethal bricks? WFT? Drop a few with rubber bullets if they want to use projectiles of any type.

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    • vehoae
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 2:19pm

      For WALKABOUT’s comment ….. You actually can go much further back than 6th Century A.D. to find examples of death by a flung rock. Try I Samuel 17: 47 – 51 to read about Goliath being killed by a stone slung by the young man David, who would later become the King of Israel & Judah.

      CHINGACHGOOK mentioned rocks being thrown at one’s head. David used only a stone to kill Goliath.

      Lord, come quickly.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 2:31pm

      The throwing of stones is completely lost on the Left because their narrative has always been against guns. Remove guns and the world becomes a more peaceful place for us all is the rant of the day, but they themselves choose to live by weapons of their own making and when they rise to power it will be guns they will hand out to ensure they keep power. Duh!!!

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 2:59pm

      vehoae
      I had considered it. A sling stone is part of a weapon system, so even leftists would have to agree that they came to fight & to harm people. I can see an OWS apologist say, they din;t come to the protest armed or intending to harm, they just found a little ole brick lying on the ground. So I used brick because that is they use & they consider it no big deal.

      I have seen a kid 9 to 12 year old throw a ball 40 miles an hour a the the Children’s Science Museum at Pittsburgh. I point that out because I think that they kid was not exceptional. I can see all sorts of teenagers & twenty-somethings who could throw just as hard. I consider them dangerous when they throw something.

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 3:35pm

      That is why ******* use them to execute people

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    • NancyBee
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 3:52pm

      Being hit with the corner of a brick would be an attempted murder charge….if you lived to tell about it. Ouch!

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:04pm

      re : . Where does it say that you attack me I can not respond with more force that you use on me.
      ****
      I DISTINCTLY REMEMBER THE pRESIDENT (no cap, no respect) OF THE UNITED STATES SAYING: “IF THY BRING A KNIFE, WE’LL BRING A GUN!
      Wonder if that was in an EXECUTIVE ORDER? HE‘S MADE SO MANY WE’D BETTER TREAT IT LIKE IT WAS!!!!

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  • countryfirst
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:24am

    Too bad Michelle Obama already wasted the statement “ that for the first time in her adult life she is proud of her country”. I am sure the POTUS and her are dancing around the Christmas tree, Oh sorry holiday tree.

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    • kettererbg
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 2:41pm

      I wonder if they have the Mao ornaments again this year.

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  • bharris0
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:16am

    Sounds like the police union told them not to hurt their fellow communists.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:23am

      Indeed, and as the level of violence escallates from the Occupy bands, soon enough we will see the use of firearms on their part (the Occupy groups) for “security and safety” reasons. Which will soon enough be the end game when police officers are shot and true carnage emerges.

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  • AmericanStrega
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:14am

    What else is new?

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  • SLARTIBARTFAST
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:12am

    Why is it that the OWS thugs only protest where they are, in actuality, the most welcomed by the general populace? Even a dog, when being crate-trained, learns not to cr*p in it’s own bed, so why can’t they? Of course we’d never put up with it down in Texas. Seattle, you’re growing your own downfall!

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    • dfletcher
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 1:14pm

      There has been or maybe still are protests in Austin. But in most of the state we won’t put up with this kind of crap!

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  • Sirfoldallot
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:06am

    Can the police write the Union leads a letter befor they send money to them ? After all the have to put there life on the line for us all.

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    • h8monday
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:40pm

      I left law enforcement within the last year because of a career ending on the job injury… I know many of the larger departments such as Seattle are beholden to large unions, but most small departments have formed their own associations made up of their own sworn officers. The associations of smaller departments don‘t throw money behind large organizations that don’t hold their same values, so there’s really nobody to write to.

      I understand what you were getting at and can say without question that law enforcement officers aren’t taking marching orders from their union. More likely they are following orders of their police administration who is getting their orders from city officials.

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  • Rickfromillinois
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:06am

    Yep, the occupiers and the Tea Party is just alike. Look how many times Tea party members turned violent, how many were arrested, and how many police officers in riot gear had to be on scene to keep them in line. Look how many times those Tea party thugs blocked businesses. What ? NONE? Never mind.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:24am

      I remember one picture of police in riot gear at a Tea Party Rally. The senior citizens were walking by very politely, smiling at the officers. It was total blow out of proportion time. I think they did it to try to incite the “gun huggers” into some sort of violence so they could point and say, “See, they’re violent.” Now we have real violence and the media ignores it.

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  • WestTexasCountryBoy
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:05am

    These animals are compared to the TEA party? Let’s see, how many TEA attendees have been pepper sprayed, hit with a night stick, or TASERed, that number would be exactly ZERO. The tail continues to wag the dog. These useful idiots don’t have a clue.

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  • sbenard
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:04am

    Why would they bring paint? Is it to force the police to leave to clean up?

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    • SLARTIBARTFAST
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:14am

      To paint the police in a bad light? Maybe they misunderstood their leaders directions……

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    • quickstudy
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 12:34pm

      You can’t see through a face shield covered in paint.

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  • don young
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:01am

    If you throw rocks at me i would throw bullets at you.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:07am

      My 1st reaction is to go Malcom X (pre-Haj) on the protesters. My Second is to use a counter insurgency strategy advocated by a French colonel.

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:11am

      A rock would probably do more damage than a bullet if they were both thrown. I’d imagine you would want a gun to shoot said bullets.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 2:06pm

      Locked

      I am nonplussed by your comment. Anyone who has taken 1st semester physics knows that a bullet (fired by a gun) & a thrown brick have about the same kinetic energy. That is physics. To say other wise is to outright lie.

      A polemicist should consider the large number of people, who have taken 1st semester physics at college or have learned physics on the job. People with that understand do not care whether that energy is imparted by a bullet or brick. Dead is dead, the intent of the well meaning protester not withstanding.

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  • HardRock1314
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:59am

    That paint can on the ground looks very similar to Tree Marking Paint?

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    • Salamander
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 3:36pm

      Oh, it must be ok then, trees are green and green is good! Right?

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  • OneTermPresident
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:58am

    Is it any wonder?

    The 99%: Official list of Occupy Wall Street’s supporters, sponsors and sympathizers:

    Communist Party USA
    Sources: Communist Party USA, OWS speech, The Daily Caller

    American Nazi Party
    Sources: Media Matters, American Nazi Party, White Honor, Sunshine State News
    Ayatollah Khamenei, Supreme Leader of Iran
    Sources: The Guardian, Tehran Times, CBS News

    Barack ObamaSources: ABC News, CBS News, ForexTV, NBC New York
    The government of North Korea
    Sources: Korean Central News Agency (North Korean state-controlled news outlet), The Marxist-Leninist, Wall Street Journal, Times of India

    Louis Farrakhan, Nation of IslamSources: video statement (starting at 8:28), Black in America, Weasel Zippers, Philadelphia Weekly

    Revolutionary Communist PartySources: Revolutionary Communist Party, Revolution newspaper, in-person appearance

    David DukeSources: Talking Points Memo, video statement, davidduke.com

    Joe BidenSources: Talking Points Memo, video statement, Mother Jones

    Hugo ChavezSources: Mother Jones, Reuters, Examiner.com

    Revolutionary Guards of IranSources: Associated Press, FARS News Agency, UPI

    Black Panthers (original)Sources: in-person appearance, Occupy Oakland, Oakland Tribune

    Socialist Party USASources: Socialist Party USA, IndyMedia, The Daily Caller

    US Border GuardSources: White Reference, http://www.usborderguard.com, Gateway Pundit, Just Another Day blog

    Industrial Workers of the WorldSources: IWW web site, iww.org, in

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  • IMPEACHBHO
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:57am

    Being on the left is like having a backstage pass to lawlessness. Only the right has to obey the law, permits, etc. Holder, BHO, Pelosi, and the STATE media will hook ya up if you lean forward.

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    • TurboCat
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:15am

      That’s because in Saul Alinsky tactics, one of the Rules for Radicals is to hold your enemy to his own standards.

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  • Cuthalu
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:54am

    You know what also should not be brought to a peaceful protest? Tasers, bullet-proof vests, large riot shields, guns, batons, pepper spray, water cannons, and steriod enhanced thugs.

     
    • TeaPartyDragon
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:59am

      They don’t when it’s the Tea party and I would recommend flame throwers for the occupiers march.

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    • JLGunner
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:00am

      Remember the Bank of America shootout in California a few years back? That was a result of your type of thinking. Being ill prepared to deal with the evil of this world gets more people hurt.

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:10am

      Cuthalu, what you and the rest of those miscreants don‘t understand is that you don’t have equal authority with the police. You see, we hire them to keep order in our communities. We don’t hire you. The police have an obligation to be well equipped to handle whatever might prove necessary to get the job done.

      We’re not talking about some sort of contest between two groups of citizens. Your parents should have taught you about this as soon as you were old enough to understand.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:12am

      Cuthalu

      The police ignoring past experience should stand around on blues, until they are grievously assaulted & only then go back to the station to outfit in riot gear.

      The ones not in the hospital or morgue that is.

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    • oldironsides
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:14am

      the protest was not peaceful and its a good thing the cops were prepared – your statement is not based in reality, much like your little protests

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:18am

      Cuthalu
      The same anarchists, who for years behaved violently during every G8 meeting, G20 conference & at so many other demonstrations are part of OWS.

      Police are suppose suspend brain activity so as to not use past experience & good sense? You would like that. Then only a few would show up in street clothes & be easy pickings.

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    • RightThinking1
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:28am

      @Cuthalu,
      When a group of people construct barricades and impede the passage of the public and/or the owners of the property, it is NOT ‘peaceful protest’, it is anarchical thuggery. When you do such things, and soon after collect a bruise, or a whiff of gas, it will be because the police are doing what they are sworn to do, i.e., enforce the law as enacted by the people. I applaud them in their actions. I am only sorry that they have to deal with mindless self-engaged rabble.

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    • Cuthalu
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:53am

      Just one question, are you all american patriots or government red-coat loyalists? From many of your responses, the answer is clear.

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    • JLGunner
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 12:02pm

      A vast majority of these protesters are commies, so I want harm to come to them from LE. This way , I don’t end up in jail for “dealing” with them.

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    • The Sergeant Major
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 2:38pm

      I have worked in law enforcement and in the military for over 34 years. I have NEVER experienced anyone using steroids. Most people protesting are not violent, just the ones throwing bags of $&*t, bricks and attacking law enforcement. “Cut”, you’re a wanker without a life. Get job, raise a Family and pay your taxes. If you don’t like the laws in Seattle or in Washington you can get on I- 5 and go north.

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    • RightThinking1
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 3:57pm

      @CUTALU
      Quoting here:”Just one question, are you all american patriots or government red-coat loyalists? From many of your responses, the answer is clear.”
      I am not sure whether you are making an argument, or a statement. If you are making a statement that the OWS‘ers are ’patriots’, then I am left to wonder what is ‘patriotic’ about blocking private property and interfering with private business.
      If you are suggesting that support of the duly constituted police, whose responsibility it is to see that the right to free passage is maintained, somehow amounts to blind support of government ‘redcoats’, then you did not extract the substance of the previous paragraph.

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    • Patriot Z
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 5:08pm

      come on. you cannot block lawful businesses, throw rocks and sharpen metal spikes and expect cops to take it. look at these people. just because they are protesters do not make them right and justified or patriots. These people ARE anti-capitialist thugs trying to destroy freedom. I mean they are using LETHAL weapons and the cops are responding with stun grenades and pepperspray, and these so called ‘freedom fighters’ are whinning and crying about opression like they have a clue. they want to use weapons, fight, attack, put their own children in harms way to pretend they are robin hood and cry “unfair’ when cops fight back with a fraction of the force at their disposal. sorry mate these are no more freedom protesters and the cops are no more ‘thugs’ than i am dr seusse

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    • MistyBlueAngel
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:52pm

      But we’re not talking about a “peaceful” protest here, CUTHALU, and any sensible person knows it. These people are animals, and they have a mob-mentality. It is a curious phenomenon, the mob. It comes on quickly, often seemingly out of nowhere, though in the case of the OWS, I have my doubts about that, and when large groups of people are acting withing a mob their good judgement (if indeed, any of this group has any) is often suspended. It’s as if one feels like they are in a cartoon, and nothing going on is real, or that horrible deeds (like chucking rocks or rebar at living human beings won’t really hurt anybody) and so the violence continues to escalate. Maybe part of it can be explained by the fact that this generation was raised on a steady diet of violent music, movies and video games, and they have become desensitized to it, but it’s real nonetheless. We had better wake up and put a stop to it fast, or soon the mob will be coming after everyday citizens for whatever whim they feel. I think these people who are caught doing these things should be prosecuted for assault, and attempted murder, and anyone who is actively a part of these mobs should be prosecuted for terrorism because that’s what they are doing, and please spare me the tired line about “freedom of speech”. Throwing bricks, bags of paint and rebar can in no way be construed to mean “speech” no matter how thin you stretch either the truth or logic.

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    • trmac
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:09am

      CUTHALU…all of those items weren’t brought to the so called peaceful protest in the begining. Only after the fleabaggers started the violence did the police start showing up with your mentioned items.

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  • Jeff777
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:53am

    I only hope that since we can’t just run them over with bulldozers and steamrollers, that they’ll still be so occupied with their occupying next year that they forget to vote!

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    • TeaPartyDragon
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:00am

      They are about 13% of the country; they don’t matter!

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    • lukerw
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 1:16pm

      Any City subject to an OWS crowd… will go Bankrupt, due to the Security. Clean Up, and Lost Business Costs. So, you cannot simply ignore them!

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  • randy
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:53am

    Looks like the Police Officers met force with Greater Force!
    Good for them!

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  • Mrlo912
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:51am

    No surprise since the same people are behind the Occucommies as WTO
    Check it out….The origins and future of Occupy Wall Street. http://nyr.kr/saYodX

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  • klevalt
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:51am

    These are people held up on pedestals by Time Magazine? I am so enraged! NOT ONLY by the protesters, they are completely out of line, and their antics are dangerous to themselves and others, but by the way they manipulate the US Constitution to endorse their freedom to protest this way! Also in the way that they compare themselves to Tea Partiers. Tell me one instance where Tea Partiers placed our children on railroad tracks. Tell me one instance where Tea Partiers deficated on the sidewalk. Tell me one instance where Tea Partiers even came close to assaulting an officer of the law… even when members of congress walked through a group of them, taunting them. Tell me what the reaction by Liberal Left would have been if there were ANY such instance at any 9-12 or Tea Party event!!!

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:54am

      Time for the OWS TERRORISTS to be dealt with as such. They should be named as a terrorist organization .. that Tax Deducable status taken away (what a joke .. charity my A$$) and the leaders (along with the lawbreaking protesters) be taken off to jail.

      TEA!

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:58am

      Can everyone now agree that the Media which has supressed actual proven violence at OWS while painting them as patriots, And actually invented fake stories of Vviolence at Tea Party event is just a liberla mouth piece. That the media would do this makes it an anti-American institution that should be require to forfit it journalistic license. And clearly statrt every story off with a disclaimer stating that they aren’t news by all oppinion.

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    • Charles
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:09am

      Time magazine is a slime publication and has been for decades. When I see it in a waiting room it gets ripped up and tossed out.

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    • Veritas Libertas
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:15pm

      Whereas I actually agree with most of the sentiment I’ve read in regards to the OWS protestors, it bears pointing out that this is exactly the reaction this administration wants from us. The OWS protestors are Van Jones’ “bottom up”. The “top down” solution to this crisis was solidified by the Senate last week with the passage of S 1867. The President is just waiting (gleefully) for us to contact our various state representatives and governors. The states will ask the federal government for assistance, and then the troops (most likely the 1-4 BCTs) will hit the streets to respond to “the will and desire of the people”.

      Again, I am in agreement with you but we have to be extremely careful what we wish for.

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  • wingedwolf
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:47am

    The left is so proud of these, the “best Americans….”

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  • Action-Not-Just_Words
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:46am

    It’s only the beginnng folks… buckle up because it’s going to be an ugly bumpy ride.

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:55am

      Time ot buy more ammo .. protect home and property. Thank God for Florida castle laws.

      TEA!

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  • lukerw
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:42am

    Believe it or not… A Stone can Kill, even one thrown by a little boy or girl — You cannot let your Defenders be Under-Weaponed!

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:49am

      A taser can kill too. Less lethal, not non-lethal.

      A Tear Gas Canister-launcher fired at a protesting vet’s face can nearly kill a marine vet.

      Bricks and bags of steel are the least they should wield when the cops have an arsenal bristling with weapons to use on protestors, and don’t have any qualms or discretion in using them.

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    • tzion
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:01am

      V-man, are you condoning the use of deadly force against police officers. Ghandi made his point without even using his fist. The occupiers make themselves look like the bad guys when they use deadly force. True most non-lethal weapons can kill, but so can things which aren’t considered weapons. A guy can slip on a crushed grape and hit his head on a counter.

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    • Charles
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:07am

      Tasers and tear gas are intended to be non lethal and not inflict permanent injury. When these commie protesters throw bags of steel and flares they clearly intend to inflict severe injury. When these cops get weapons of any kind used on them which are clearly intended to cause serious injuries its time to start shooting in response. Just get clear video of the actions and then shoot them. The police even if they shoot them will be far more self controlled than common citizens will be when they ultimately are forced to defend against these anti American insurrectionists.

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    • 408 CheyTac
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:10am

      protesters are responding in kind.

      when cops pepperspray seated protesters who “surrounded” them, and blast people in the face with CS projectiles, it is completely normal for protesters to respond like this. violence causes more violence, and maybe, if you try really hard, you can find a cop that realizes no weapon can even the odds if a big crowd decides to take them on. Let the protest fools sit there, they will get sick of it and leave at some point. To react with a violent police action just swells the ranks of the protesters.

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    • barnsy
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:19am

      Dam right tear gas canisters and tasers can kill.Thats the chance you take when you assault the police.At least in the 60s the protesters had some legitmate reasons to risk life and limb ( Equal Rites,Vietnam).These pathetic wannabe posers just want more handouts.Send them to Greece!

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:50am

      I’m not condoning the use of deadly force against police officers. The protestors have a right to defend themselves. You are condoning the use of Less Lethal force against the protestors. There is no non-lethal weapon, as you just said. A person can slip on a grape, right? Hit their head on a counter?

      Barnsy

      You’re making a judgement on the legitimacy of the protest, a subjective personal opinion rather than an actual observation of the redundancy of this argument. What recourse does citizens have when they are assulted by police?

      Do we live in a society where the police can aggress a citizen and a citizen must allow it and not try to defend themselves, and then try to seek justice in a court of law that gives deference to their peace officers…while if a citizen aggresses a peace officer, that officer has a right to use deadly or other force to defend themselves?

      How hypocritical this argument is. It makes absolutely NO SENSE. We are not slaves or servants, we are the masters. The police are the public servants, that‘s why they’re held to a higher standard than an average citizen because WE say so, we’re their BOSS. They deserve no extra deference.

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    • barnsy
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 2:44pm

      V-man,once again you are missing the point.The protesters would’t be in that situation if they followed the lawful orders of the police. Like it or not we are a nation of laws.Im a libertarian and have serious problems with many laws and regulations.I can legally protest, try to make changes within the system,or legally try to change the system itself.I can’t go around attacking cops,disrupting commerce,and destroying property.Thats anarchy.A civilized society cannot exist in an anarchist state. And please don’t whine about the jackbooted cops assaulting the poor helpless protesters for no reason.This is the era of video phones.If a cop gets out of line,chances are he will get caught on camera and be prosecuted.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 3:09pm

      barnsy

      They’re protesting and the cops are trying to break it up. They have given no lawful orders. The cops have shown a contempt for protestors and protests in general, Homeland Security has deemed protests as Low Level Terrorism, and I support my fellow countrymen’s right to protest without police interference or intimidation.

      The Tea Party disrupted commerce when they threw tea into the harbor, and the police don’t exist to keep commerce flowing. The police are not tasked with preventing destruction of property either. The protection of property is the responsibility of the property owner, which is why those firefighters sat by and watched the man‘s house burn down because he didn’t pay his $75 fee.

      Don’t whine about me criticizing your Police State heroes. All I have to do is post video of the cops shooting that marine vet in the face with a tear gas canister just for standing there, and post video fo the cops pepper spraying students in the face simply for sitting there. I don’t have to whine.

      I’m not an OWS protestor. I’m a Tea Party member who protests the Police State and the Federal Reserve that funds it, and I support my fellow countrymen’s right to protest without police interference, infiltration, agent provocateuring, etc.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 3:11pm

      Homeland Security is coordinating the crackdown on the protests nationwide.

      Abolish the TSA and Homeland Security.

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    • Sheepdog69
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 3:42pm

      V Man, cops have the LEGAL authority and responsibility to do what they are doing, the protesters do not. Try actually reading the law. If you don’t like it, run for office and change it.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:13pm

      No, they don’t. They don’t have any legal authority to crackdown on protests, they‘re just following Janet Napolitano’s orders because they think they can do whatever they want. They coordinated nationwide and started forcibly breaking up protests, infiltrating, agent provocateuring, etc., and they do NOT have the legal or constitutional authority to do so. They’re spying on the protestors like terrorists and Homeland Security has defined protesting as low-level terrorism.

      What part of that do you not understand?

      They’re outright criminal.

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    • UlyssesP
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 6:52pm

      V-man. I agree the police are almost like a sitting domestic army many times BUT, protesters are asking for it. They are already crossing the line of a constitutionally guaranteed right to protest into destruction of property, PRIVATE PROPERTY, and when a PRIVATE CITIZEN defends his PRIVATE PROPERTY with the result being those protesters crossing that line bloodied, that will be a GOOD day.
      Already SWIKn had to put two of those punks messing with a vehicle and the contents within it (in an undisclosed southern US magic city) in their place. They won’t be protesting again anytime soon, unless someone donates a wheelchair for the one that had a bat across the thigh twice and a seeing eye dog for the other one that received spray paint in the face and contact lenses.

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    • barnsy
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 11:49pm

      Wow, V-Man, you are out there ! I dont mean to belittle you but you are one twisted sob ( I know, twisted is subjective).I consider myself to be pretty radical but you put me to shame.

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    • MistyBlueAngel
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 12:06am

      @ V-Man :
      Do we live in a society where the police can aggress a citizen and a citizen must allow it and not try to defend themselves, and then try to seek justice in a court of law that gives deference to their peace officers…while if a citizen aggresses a peace officer, that officer has a right to use deadly or other force to defend themselves?

      No, you live in a country where the police have a sworn duty to protect and to serve, and that includes keeping the peace and breaking up crowds of violent, destructive rabble who are trying to keep rightful owners from using their property, and those who willingly work for money. No where do the rules say that the protesters have equal authority to the police. The police are not bound by some rule of etiquette to hold off on fighting back, remember? We PAY them to keep average citizens SAFE. Why should someone attempting to go to work have to fear going through a dangerous mob? To turn your argument around, how about the protesters simply going home? Problem solved.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 2:24am

      UlyssesP

      It‘s not the police’s job to protect private property.

      MistyBlueAngel

      You totally dodged the question. What does a citizen do when a police officer unlawfully aggresses them? I’ll tell you, we have a right to defend ourselves, and with deadly force if we have no avenue of escape.

      Nowhere does the “rules” say that the police are my authority. They’re public servants, we’re the masters who pays their salaries, and we haven’t delegated them any authority to break up legal protests. If a person destroys property during a protest and the cop witnesses it or someone calls the cops and complains that their property has been destroyed or damaged, then THAT INDIVIDUAL has broken the law, not the entire protest. That doesn’t set a pretext to clamp down roughly on protests nationwide while coodinated by Homeland Security.

      I don’t pay them to keep me safe, they’re utterly incapable of keeping anyone or anything safe, and you live with a false sense of security. There is no right not to be in fear on your way to work. Life is dangerous. You could get hit by a bus or mugged. Carry a pistol. Stop thinking the cops are your superhero nanny. I would much rather KEEP my tax dollars for their salaries and buy myself a few more rifles and some ammo. My prerogative.

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  • TXPilot
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:39am

    Well, at least they weren’t throwing their own cr@p, like monkeys do. But, I’m sure it will happen soon.

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    • wingedwolf
      Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:53am

      I have been hearing for days that they have been throwing their own crap at passers-by and police. I haven’t seen any video, thank goodness.

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  • IMPEACHBHO
    Posted on December 16, 2011 at 10:37am

    Pelosi and BHO are so proud.

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